CINEMA GEEKS
Deadpool Review

About this Episode
Geeks:
Kevin @OptimusSolo
Dan @MovieRevolt
Amanda @HardCandiMandi
Hey, this is Steve Blum, and you are listening
to the Geekcast Radio Network. Today on episode
83 of The Cinema Geeks, we take a look ahead
at what the month of March has in store for us
along with some predictions. We discuss the best
and worst trailers to debut over the past couple
weeks. And we give our thoughts on the current
box office king, Deadpool. All that and more
coming up on episode 83 with The Cinema Geeks.
That's right. It's episode 83 with the cinema
geeks I am one of your geeks optimists solo and
joining me as the use is hard candy Mandy. Hello
per use. What's up? I don't know You've confused
me now. I've confused myself and you do when
you try to use my word I can't talk like you
and movie revolt Dan. Hello. Hey, how's it going?
Not too bad and we've shut the the door on February.
We're looking ahead this week to March We're
gonna do this every month for the rest of the
year. We didn't do it for January and February
for Very legitimate reasons because there wasn't
much to preview but we'll try to do this every
month going forward It's kind of look ahead at
what the month is going to have to offer and
then look back at the previous month And what
happened with that so we're gonna be doing that
So this is the time that we'll actually touch
a little bit more on box office rotten tomatoes
and trailers like we have been Skipping over
other episodes recently and in this episode we
will not have a main attraction since it is basically
more so Looking back at February so far and looking
ahead at March, but we will have a Good chunk
of time spent on what we have been watching.
We actually have an in common film this week
so we're gonna actually spend a little bit of
time on Deadpool as well as a couple other films
that we've caught up with over the past few weeks.
Dan, how's your week going and are you ready
to get into more of the movie season as we head
into March -April? Yeah, we're going well. We're
recording this a little bit before the Oscar
so I've been spending some time trying to catch
up with some of those movies that I've missed.
But it's going well. You know, it's uh, weather's
nice. It's been warm. It's nice coming home and
it's still sunny out. So that's really great.
Yeah. We have somehow in our area, apparently
for the most part have bypassed winter this year.
We, I don't even know how it happened. Like we
had one little spell. We had some piece of those.
But that's been about it. I mean, usually we're
way worse condition than we are. How do you stop
talking about it? Because tomorrow is going to
be a freaking blizzard. Yeah, that was probably
my bad. I cursed us. But yeah, I'm looking forward
to the spring and getting out of this winter
haze. We have had a different season every week.
Like one week we have a blizzard, next week we
have ice. This week we had thunderstorms and
tornadoes this week. Oh, that's fun to add to
the mix. Yeah, so it's been nice. It's been nice.
The world is ending where you live. We live in
a role in an Emmerich movie. So that's not good
for anybody usually. Anyways, let's go ahead
and get right into it by looking a little bit
at the box office. Now, not a lot to look back
on so far because it's still kind of early in
January and February. It doesn't usually have
a lot to offer, but as far as the box office
from February and January so far, I mean, it's
pretty clear unless people have been living under
a rock. what's happening with the box office.
And that is it all starts and ends with Deadpool
so far. Dan, we did our box office predictions
a month or so ago. Did we sell Deadpool short?
I greatly did because I didn't even include it
in my top 15. So I like when doing that, I thought
it undersold it completely greatly. So I did
not think it would do nearly as well as it did.
It means to the point where it's made more money
than like so many huge box office or so many
big Comic book movies like every X -Men movie
more than Iron Man and so many more and it's
still not stopping So I completely undersold
it. I thought it wouldn't do nearly as well I
thought it would be more line along the lines
of kick -ass maybe make a hundred million dollars
or something of that nature and it made more
than that on its first weekend so kudos I'm glad
I'm wrong I really am yeah I'm very happy that
I wasn't correct I guess I just I didn't know
how well that character would translate to general
audiences and it seems to be translating pretty
well see I have learned one thing from this and
that is that I need to be more confident with
my picks and not second -guess myself so much
when we're doing those box office predictions
because I was almost like trying to talk myself
out of putting it on my list uh when we did that
countdown so yeah i'm glad it did well too my
fear now though is that and we can get into this
a little bit more with with uh when we just talk
about it but my fear more is Centering on the
reaction that it's gonna be from Hollywood and
the film studios I'm gonna leave it at that so
you can kind of get more into it when we talk
about the the film later on in this episode but
I am somewhat trepidatious about some effects
from Its success, but I am very glad that it
succeeded and it's the only really There's only
two films, I think, at this point that are above
100 million. Kung Fu Panda 3 being the other
one. So those are the two films that are reigning
supreme at the box office. But it's not close.
Deadpool is way out in front. And if we're doing
the flip side and looking at our early entrance
for the biggest bomb category for the year, I
think right now it's got to sit on two different
films. And that is The Fifth Wave and Pride and
Prejudice and Zombies and... I think that's the
end of that title. But those two films are not
doing good. They've gained a little probably
over the last week, but Last Eye Check, Fifth
Way was only, it was not even close to its budget,
and Pride and Prejudice was also. I mean, they're
easy bombs so far. Anything else looking back
so far that surprised you besides Deadpool doing
so well, Dan? I guess Hail Caesar doing so poorly.
I don't know if it surprised me. I had wondered.
I didn't think that movie would do super, super
well, but being one of the biggest bombs for
the Coens, if you look at their box office and
how much it was, the cast that was there, it's
made less than the fifth wave. It's only made
about $26 million at this point. So yeah, that
one, it was kind of sad. It kind of said that
it did not gain nearly anything this past year.
Besides that, like you said, it's February and
January, so just a lot of just nothing much,
basically. Amanda, were you surprised that Deadpool
did as well? I know you had it also on your list
of biggest box office for the year, but are you
surprised at the level that it's succeeding so
far? I guess in the grand scheme of all the comic
book movies. I was a little surprised, but I
think it's kind of set in, and now that I'm thinking
about it, it's not a big surprise at all based
on all the hype that was around it. And all the
nine -year -olds that got in, too. I mean, that's
just extra money. And to give you an idea of
the actual gap, Deadpool's currently sitting
around $236 million, and Kung Fu Panda 3 is in
second with $117 million. So there's over $100
million. gap there um so yeah it's it's definitely
not even close um yeah the fifth wave the budget
on that one was 38 million and i guess it's it's
almost it's crept up there a little bit it's
up to 31 um so i mean It might not end up being
a complete bomb, but for the first couple of
weeks it was definitely pretty scary, and Pride
and Prejudice and Zombies had a 28 million budget
and it's only at 10. So it's not like bombs to
the effect that we had last year with The Seventh
Son and Jupiter Ascending, but if you had to
pick ones, I guess those would be the ones that
you would point to. As we look ahead to March,
as we kind of get into revving up steam here
with more movies coming out and more big -name
movies, coming out, we're going to do this three
ways when we look at the box office. So we're
not just making our one box office prediction.
Now we're going to be doing it this year. is
we have three different categories that will
all be participating in the first one we're going
to be calling the the pick to click that's not
original that's obviously been used by a lot
of things but pick to click so uh... something
that could be a prediction for what's going to
be number one for all of march it could be just
a prediction on a certain film being a financial
success or you know far surpassing its budget
or any type of specific number goal that one
of us wants to give to uh... film so something
positive as far as the box office goes Then we're
also going to pick a bet to bomb. I need to come
up with better titles. And that would be a pick
for the film that's most likely not to make its
budget or to be a bomb at the box office, not
a success financially. And then the third one
can just be any box office -related prediction
you can think of. We'll call that our wild card
pick. So it's kind of like when they do the football
picks. They have their sure -finnings, their
upsets, their wild cards. So we're going to try
to do something like that. So if any of that
made sense, Dan. Where do you want to start your
pick to click or a bomb or wild card? Where do
we want? Where do we want to start? I guess I'll
get my my bomb out of the way and it's it's hard
because I don't think there's There's not a lot
of like hugely like big temple films next next
in March that I think have a chance of bombing
but one that I think it's gonna super bomb especially
compared to the original and that's my big fat
Greek wedding to the coming out next year or
next month coming out in March just it's been
such a long time since that movie the first one
came out and and it was noted just one of the
highest profited movies of all time uh and it
was ended up being this gigantic hit i see that
one just completely flopping and really gaining
no steam whatsoever just because it's kind of
come and gone it's i don't even know it's been
like over 10 maybe even longer than that so i
just and i think I have seen absolutely very
little for that movie to begin with, so I don't
see that movie being successful in any way, shape,
or form. I like that pick. I'm mad that I didn't
think about that one, because I completely agree
with everything you're saying. I can totally
see it happening that way. Amanda, what was your
bomb pick? This may be wishful thinking, but
I'm going to go with Allegiant. Damn it. What?
That's my bomb pick, too. All right, so we'll
piggyback on this one, I guess. I don't know
if that should be allowed or if I should have
to pick something else. Yeah, the Divergent series,
Allegiant. Why is that your pick to bomb? I just
feel like it's losing steam. I think that there's
some, uh... I don't know, just a lot of issues
with the series, and I don't know if it's just
me that can't get on board or what. No, I don't
think you're alone, because even myself, I tried
to, like... Give it the benefit of the doubt
and after the first one be like, you know, maybe
it'll be worth it to stick with this series but
after the second one I've checked out and I don't
know how many people will be interested in the
third one The second one did not do as well as
the first one. I don't believe so I can see this
continuously going downhill and I don't know.
I just don't see it as a series that a lot of
people are just ooh -ing and ah -ing. It's not
like the Hunger Games. It's not like some of
these other films that has really gained an audience
to me. Well, I feel like it's got to have a huge
budget. I mean, the special effects movies are
outrageous, so a huge budget with a following
that's probably falling off. Yeah. I mean, we're
probably picking a bomb that's still going to
make over $100 million, but hopefully compared
to its budget. I don't know what its budget was,
but... Out of people that like this film that
we just don't associate with, so maybe that's
our problem. Oh, I think that's a good problem
to have, just saying. So we'll double up on the
Allegiant pick as our bomb picks. Amanda, where
do you want to go next, Wild Card or your pick
to click? Let's do pick to click. Alright, what
is it? I'm going to go with Zootopia. Are you
freaking kidding me? That's also my pick to click.
Well, stop looking at my papers. You're not on
the Zootopia train, are you? No, I'm going to
go with the obvious route, but you know, what
are you going to do? Okay, so why Zootopia, Amanda?
I think it looks super cute, and I think a ton
of people are going to go see this, drag their
kids, the kids are going to drag them. I think
that there's already a huge hype about it. I
see it on Facebook all the time. I mean, the
trailer's been out for a while now. I just feel
like it's going to be another Kung Fu Panda.
Well, and that's why I was going to say, even
though we have had Kung Fu... Kung Fu? The Kung
Fu! Kung Fu! Even though we have had Kung Fu
Panda 3, I think people, you know, it was a sequel
and yeah, it did okay, but I think people are
ready for like the first major animated film
of the year. I'm not going to consider Kung Fu
Panda 3 major, I guess. But I think they're ready
for this one and I think they, the kids are going
to come out in force and it's going to be hit
the right time, too, for it. I think, I think
Zootopia is going to do real well. Looks super
cute! I think it's... It's going to be a good
time. All right. So those are our picks to click.
Dan, where are you going? Well, they say go big
or go home. So I'm going to go big with Batman
v Superman. And obviously, it's going to make
a lot of money. But I think it's going to, when
we did a box office predictions for 2015, I said
it's going to be the biggest movie of the year.
So for it to do that, it's going to have to do
more than Deadpool. And I think it has the potential.
My prediction is that it's going to get close.
Possibly beat that of the opening weekend of
the Avengers It's coming out to the point where
you know, it's it's gonna be Sometime before
we have a big movie of that since Deadpool I
think people are gonna be wanting to see something
again like a big movie of that nature It's been
around just the idea of it's been around forever
feel like like we've been talking about this
movie I don't know since this podcast has started
and And it's Batman and Superman, two of the
biggest iconic characters of all time. Their
names on a marquee, you think you're going to
get people to go see it. So I'm going all in
in the Batman v Superman train. And I think the
last trailer that they just put out won a lot
of people over that some of the other trailers
didn't. So maybe there's potential there. I actually
cannot believe it's coming out this month. I'm
like, whoa, whoa, wait, wait. We even talked
about this now. I even have it on my paper. And
I still can't. and then it's actually coming
out now, finally it's gonna be here. I know,
I know what we're gonna do afterwards. No, we
still got three weeks of hype. And it's also
like 14 hours long, so there's a... So actually
we'll start in March, but it might end in April.
Alright, so that would leave us with our wild
card picks. For my wild card pick, I'm going
to do a head -to -head matchup on who's going
to win, and I'm trying to go at least somewhat
of the same genre, even though they're probably
not the same type of film. And they're both somewhat
comedy -based. One's more kind of a war comedy,
I guess you could say, and the other one maybe
a little bit more secret agent comedy. So I'm
going to pit Whiskey Tango Foxtrot up against
the Brothers Grimsby. So Tina Fey against Mr.
Cohen, not the Cohen brothers, but Sasha. Sasha
Baron Cohen. And I'm going to say that Grimsby
is going to make more than whiskey, tango, foxtrot.
I'm going to bet against Tina Fey and actually
say that more people are going to go with the
Mark Strong, Sasha Baron Cohen joint. So that's
where I'm going with that one. Amanda, where's
your wild card? Okay, so I don't really know
what to do for that. I mean I have a pick that
I think is gonna do pretty good here It could
be anything you want. It's a wild card. Well,
I don't even know that means we're gonna give
you a couple seconds I think Dan help her out.
What are you gonna do for your wild card pick?
So I kind of took the same idea that you did
I'm looking at two films that are similar genres
and that's midnight special in 10 Cloverfield
Lane trying to think of You know which one's
gonna do better. I think it's kind of obvious
that Cloverfield Lane will do pretty well, but
I'm I'm thinking if you're looking at overall
Profit budget based upon box office that maybe
Midnight Special is gonna surprise a lot of people
so I'm gonna say when it comes to Uh, overall
profit that midnight special is going to do better
than tentacle of a real lane. Um, though none
of them, neither of them are super, super expensive,
but I'm thinking, I'm thinking tentacle from
field lane is not going to meet with the expectations
that people might think it is going to, because
it doesn't, I think there's still confusion over
exactly what it is. Is it really a Clovenfield
sequel? Is it like a, I don't know. So that makes
me wonder if that. I'm confused on that myself.
I need someone to explain it all to me, so I
wasn't sure if it had anything to do with that
or not. Amanda? Okay, well I also have Midnight
Special on here, and so in alignment with what
you're going to do to change it up for my purposes,
Dan, I'm going to say that Cloverfield Lane does
better than Midnight Special. go right against
him. Just to do it, yeah. There you go, hey.
Alright, well there can only be one winner in
that matchup then. Well I'm gonna go get my Highlander
sword. There can only be one. Alright, so that
is our predictions for March for the box office.
You have to check us out towards the end of the
month as we look back to see how we did and when
we get ready to preview April. Looking back at
the Rotten Tomatoes so far, a quick list of the
winners and the losers as a... This is at least
based on when I've looked at it last here. So
first let's start with the winners and The winners
even though it might not be at the box office
Dan one of the third highest I think as of right
now for Rotten Tomatoes is Hail Caesar which
had an 80 % last I checked it might have dropped
a little bit or Changed in the last couple days,
but it was at 80 % when I checked Kung Fu Panda
3 at 82 And Deadpool was at 84, so a correlation
there between Box Office and Critical, as far
as Rot Tomatoes goes, with Deadpool and Kung
Fu leading both, does that surprise you? I'm
surprised that Deadpool's leading both, yeah.
I thought it would do decently well, but I feel
like a voice critic saw what Deadpool was trying
to do and kind of bought into it, but yeah. I'm
actually probably more surprised that Kung Fu
Panda 3 was as well regarded because usually
when you get to the third movie of an animated
franchise, unless it's a toy story, you tend
to kind of fall off. So that's probably more
of a surprise to me. And then as far as looking
at the worst, I have four movies that did terrible
at the Rotten Tomatoes so far. Amanda, do you
have any guesses as far as movie releases so
far in 2016 that just absolutely tanked as far
as the reviews go? Any guesses? Fifth Wave? Fifth
Wave is one of them at 17%. A high 17 % for Fifth
Wave. Dan, do you got a guess? Uh, jeez, um...
That's a good question. But... I have no... Pride,
the zombie movie? The Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies?
Actually, no. Not one of the four lowest on here.
At least when I last checked. Amanda, anything
else you got? I don't even remember what's come
out so far. Alright, the other three... The the
least bad of them is Zoolander at 22 % Wow, I
didn't even realize that was that bad Zoolander
22 % fifth wave at 17 % to worse right along
to 14 % and The bottom of the barrel so far this
dirty grandpa dirty grandpa at 9 % 9 % for Dirty
Grandpa. So that's what's happening so far this
year on Rotten Tomatoes. So now we're going to
look ahead for our March predictions. And this
is real simple. We're just going to go good and
bad here. So certified fresh or certified rotten.
So you can either do one or two predictions on
a film that will rank 75 % or higher. One or
two films that you think are going to rank 25%.
or lower. Dan, we'll start with you. What's one
of your picks for Rotten Tomatoes? For one, I
think that's going to be Rotten is London has
Fallen. I see that being... I kind of like the
Olympus has Fallen, but the sequel seems to be
just insane. It just looks gigantically insane.
And I don't see that going over well with critics
at all, especially considering it's just going
to be this gigantic, huge action film. So I don't...
I don't think it'll be like 17 percent, but it's
gonna be in the low end of rotten. I'm almost
positive. Okay. Amanda, a rotten pick? A rotten
pick. Kindergarten Cop 2. Is that even gonna...
I don't even know if that'll get reviewed on
Rotten Tomatoes. I have other picks. Yeah, go
with another one, because I don't think that'll
actually get reviews. We'll do Brothers Grimsby
then. You think it's gonna be rotten? I think
they're gonna shit on this movie. Okay. Alright,
for my rotten pick, I am going to go... I was
going to go with London Aspawn too, but I'll
switch it up, and I will say the Disappointment
Room, if that even gets reviews. That looked
like it was a pile of dog. And that is, for those
of you that don't even know what I'm talking
about, that's a thriller starring Kate Beckinsale.
And I just don't see the critics reviewing that
very well. But I'm with you, Dan. I think London
is Fallen is also going to be rotten as well.
As far as fresh films, Amanda? I want to say
Eye in the Sky. Eye in the Sky. I think it's
going to be along the lines of American Sniper.
Is that just because Helen Mirren's in it? I
don't even know who that is. You don't know who
Helen Mirren is? No. She was speechless. You
would know her if you saw her. She is like the
quintessential British lady, old lady, yeah.
Oh, the M? No. Yeah! That's Judy Dench. Oh, okay.
You're getting your British lady confused. You're
gonna have to answer to this on the Twitter world
when people attack you for not knowing who Helen
is. I don't give a shit. You know who Fetty Wap
is? No. No, but apparently I work with somebody
that looks like him. Let's move on. Alright,
for my fresh pick, I'm gonna double down on Zootopia.
I know that's an easy... pick probably, but because
the critics usually like the animated films,
but I'm going to go with it as a box office success
and a Rotten Tomato success, much like Kung Fu
Panda 3. Dan, what do you got? I will double
down as well and say Midnight Special is going
to be fresh. I love the director, everything
he's done so far. Trailer looks really interesting,
solid cast, so I'm the one I'm probably the most
most have the most confidence in at this point.
Good to go anybody else have any other Rotten
Tomatoes ones they want to try to get bonus points
for? I think the lobster is gonna be fresh I'm
pretty sure that one already is fresh Just because
half the world has seen the lobster already,
but well what the then I mean I'm already winning
You're pulling the game I see I'm gonna call
you Hiro from now on trying to find those loopholes
Oh, I thought you were going to say something
else. Alright, so that's it for our Rotten Tomatoes
predictions. We'll have to see how those pan
out if we're right or wrong on that first time
doing it, so we'll have to see. Getting into
a little bit of news stories and trailers before
we take a break. We have just three quick news
stories that came out somewhat recently. One
kind of ties into our discussion a little bit
about Deadpool and maybe a little bit more to
what I was alluding to when we were talking about
the box office. Are we going to have more R -rated
comic book movies on the horizon? The movies
that are being thrown about as possible are gaining,
garnering an R rating would be The X -Force Movie
and Wolverine 3. So my question, Dan, is basically
my fear is that people are going to see Deadpool's
success. and translate that into just trying
to do the same thing that they did as far as
just let's make something R rated, let's make
it sarcastic or crass or whatever it is that
they pin in on and they're not going to realize
the real reason why Deadpool was a success and
it had a lot less to do with that and a lot more
to do with letting the story be told the way
it should be letting the creative people do kind
of follow through on their vision and create
something that was somewhat accurate to the the
source material etc and Do you have any fears
that they're just gonna say hey Deadpool worked
and it was R rated and it had this this and this
so let's just make carbon copies of that and
go forward or do you think that they're gonna
do something different as far as not just kind
of putting our rating and trying to go that route
when it comes to movie studios difference never
really they're they're bag it's usually let's
try to find the the easiest thing to do in order
to try to repeat the success of something. And
if it's like with Guardians of the Galaxy, oh,
they used a pop song in their trailer. So then
that's kind of unexpected. So now let's do that
with all these different movies like with Suicide
Squad or other things. And yeah, to think that
Deadpool was successful because it was an R rating,
it's like thinking that like Guardians of the
Galaxy was successful just because it took place
in space or just because of random or just because
it used. Certain songs or kiss at a talking tree
it was it was I think what there's what you're
seeing in James Gunn actually Had a pretty good
Piece about this regarding like why those movies
are successful was because they were first good
or at least a lot of people thought they were
and They were different in original and they
were like kind of apart from the norm and it's
just And I think that's the problem is that that's
hard to do. And you can't necessarily, you know,
make a formula for originality because that's
the point of it. So what movie studios tend to
do is like, OK, well, let's look at factors that
we can easily repeat and then do that. And I
don't think you need like the fact that they're
trying to. Reshape Wolverine to be more like
Deadpool or like, okay, let's make more R -rated
things It's kind of ridiculous because it's it's
it's like, you know the same reason why when
they look at movies like Electra or Catwoman,
they say, oh, now we can't, women comic book
movies don't do well. It's like, no, those movies
didn't do well because they were god -awful movies.
So make good movies, market them well, and they'll
be successful, but they always try to either
make it more complicated than it needs to be
by trying to make things are that now they're
coming out with Batman v Superman, R -rated Blu
-ray, which is ridiculous because... I thought
was great that Deadpool was an R -rated movie
because it's based upon a mercenary with a mouth
and like that's not really a man who kills people
for money. It's not a PG -13 concept, but Superman
is. Superman is a PG, PG -13 concept even when
he's fighting Batman. And we shouldn't make a
Superman movie that kids can't see because that
goes against everything that character stands
for. So I really think it's idiotic what they're
doing with this. Wolverine I can somewhat understand
an R -rated rating for, but it's still not necessary.
I mean, I thought the last Wolverine movie was
fine, and then they had the R -rated, like, Blu
-ray edition, which was no better than the movie
that was in theaters, so it's just this, I don't
know. It's just, to me, a marketing standpoint
of just trying to jump on whatever the next thing
is, and it's never worth it. It's sad. It is
because it's just putting doing something just
to do it It's not doing something because it's
actually necessary or because it fits what you're
the you know Like I said this source material
or you know staying true to the character or
the universe or whatever It's just like hey,
we think this will make us money. So we're gonna
tag this on here. We're gonna add this to it
and I don't know, Amanda, I mean you really like
Deadpool, you really like the art ratings and
what they were able to do with that. Do you want
to see more comic book films art rated or does
it have to be a specific type that gets that?
Well I think you need to wait until the Deadpool
review section of this to really find out how
I feel. So you can't say that I super liked it.
I did appreciate that it was... rated based on
like what Dan said it's a fucking mercenary and
all he does is say a bunch of crazy awful shit
and do a bunch of nastiness I think that it was
appropriate for that but definitely not all in
any comic book movie definitely and I definitely
agree with you Dan and when you shouldn't make
a superman movie that kids can't see that's the
that's I don't believe that either so all right
Moving on to our next piece of news here, the
next Predator film got a title. I only bring
this up because you love the Predator franchise
so much, Amanda. This is one of my favorite characters
ever. So we get a new poster and a new title,
and it's pretty creative. The title for the next
Predator film is going to be called The Predator.
Are you blown away by that? I was ready to be
blown away, but then that delivery... It says
you'll never see him coming the predator. What
do you think of the poster? It looks like the
Predator I guess it fits then so not not a lot
of excitement coming out of you Oh, I'm fucking
excited, but then I don't see any jit like changes
or anything different I mean even his gun looks
the exact same Dan the Predator. That's the best
they could do Yeah, I guess I mean the last one
was predators or the predator, you know It's
like I guess it's better like the predator back
in action or I don't know Predator to electric,
you know the chip sequel But regarding the poster
is there ever gonna be a chance when we get remove
away from posters Just copying the social network
poster with the face with white lettering. Is
that ever gonna stop? Is that gonna I don't think
gonna keep going. It's like we're yeah, we're
still doing this All right, we're gonna we're
gonna still do this five years six years later,
but all right Yeah, it takes a while something
else has to be super successful with the poster
and then they'll copy that All right, and then
the last piece of news here because we always
try to fit Star Wars in some way They did a little
boys back reveals some more of the cast of Star
Wars episode 8 I just wanted to get your guys's
quick take on it We already knew that Benicio
del Toro will be in there as somewhat of a villain
but be joining now by Laura Dern from Jurassic
Park fame and quote unquote talented newcomer
Kelly Marie Tran. What do you think of those
two additions to episode eight Dan or does that
make no difference in your level of excitement
for the film? I'm super excited for Benicio del
Toro seeing him in a Star Wars movie but I also
wonder like how big of a part it's going to be
because I remember thinking Max von Sydow's part
was going to be a lot more substantial than it
was so. I don't know. That's the thing. And the
new actress, I don't know who she is, but that's
why I have no idea who Daisy Ridley was. If they're
as good at casting as they were for the first
film, I think we should be set. Otherwise, we
do have the return, obviously, of Mark Hamill
in a bigger part. Carrie Fisher, Adam Driver,
Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Lupita
Nyong 'o back, Dom Hauglison back. Gwendolyn
Christie back it's Harrison Ford coming back
is that no no Harrison Ford in this unfortunately
ouch spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't seen
Star Wars episode 7 You only have yourself to
blame at that point for some type of stubborn
Point you're trying to make for not watching
it and trying to be cool because you didn't watch
it. I don't know Amanda What do you think of
Laura Dern Benicio del Toro? joining the Star
Wars universe. Super excited for the Benise.
Love that motherfucker and everything he does.
Jurassic Park lady. Cool, I'm not really excited
about it. She's not one that just like... Where
have you been for the past 50 fucking years?
But yeah, I think the biggest thing is the addition
of Deltora. I think he makes a perfect villain
type character for that type of universe. Is
she gonna get a tattoo now? Oh, is she gonna
go to Carrie Fisher Road, is that what you're
asking? That's just wrong. Alright, I don't think
so. I think she took a little bit better care
of herself and I don't think she did quite as
much illegal substance. You don't know that.
Maybe not. I guess I don't. Alright, up next
we're going to do a little bit of trailer talk.
We haven't talked about trailers in a long time
and we have had a ton of trailers released over
the month of February. Amanda, let's start with
you this time. Is there a trailer yay or nay
that you want to go over here? One yay, one nay.
Where do you want to start? I'm going to start
with a nay. and go high -rise. I really cannot
get into that. I don't know what the fuck it's
about really. It just looks all over the place
and weird. Tom Hiddleston, what are you doing
with your life? I think it's an intriguing concept.
I don't know. I don't know what the fucking concept
is. It's like a class system and the different
stories. It reminds me of like Dread. I don't
think that's what it's going for quite. But that's
what I feel like. Alright, so a nay for you for
high -rise. Yeah. All right, Dan, a yay or nay
for you on one of them. I'm going to go with
one that came out during the Super Bowl, but
I'm super excited for it, and that's Jason Bourne.
Again, not a very creative title, but it looks
really great. There's not a huge amount to go
on, but I don't know, something about it even
looks different. It looks just the... you know,
the type of direction we got from Paul Greengrass
in the past. It doesn't seem like he's going
for a completely new style with this movie. It
could be wrong, but it just seems like he, I
don't know if it's a digital look compared to
the film of the previous one, but I don't know.
And it's Jason Bourne, so I'm excited. Yeah,
I have that as one of them that I really enjoyed
too. I thought that was, for me, the second best
Super Bowl spot we got. And there was a lot of
Super Bowl spots, and I like that one almost
more than all the other ones. So I'm definitely
in agreement with that one. If I was going to
go for a nay, I have a couple. But the first
one I'm going to go with is Nine Lives. That
looks absolutely void of intelligence. Is that
Kevin Spacey joint? Yeah, where he turns into
a cat. I mean, I guess the theme... We got a
theme going for some cat films this year. With
Keanu. But that one looks like one that is not
something that's going to turn out well. I don't
see how any... Oh, I'm going to see the shit
out of Keanu. I got that on another part of my
thing here, but Nine Lives is a huge nay for
me. Yeah, I just want to know, what do they have
on Kevin Spacey to make him do that movie? Well,
didn't they do one with... Tim the Toolman as
a dog? The same concept? Yeah, but that's Tim
Allen. Nobody's expecting great things from him.
Yeah, he did the remake of Shaggy Dog. Like,
Kevin Spacey's fine. He's doing fine, isn't he?
He's got the TV show. He's got some cards. Yeah,
he's not hurting for money. Oh, he's got bad
gambling habit. I don't know what's going on.
I don't think this film's going to make any money,
so it's not going to help him. Maybe he's doing
it for his kids. Maybe. I don't know. Alright,
back to you, Amanda. You got another one that
you want to yay or nay? I'm gonna yay The Darkness.
Another, uh... The Darkness? It's got Kevin Bacon
in it, the scary movie. Oh, that's why I don't
remember it. Yeah, one of the scariest movies
I've ever seen is Astor of Echoes, which also
has Kevin Bacon in it, so... Looking forward
to him returning to that genre? Is there? Alright,
Dan, where else do you want to go here? Lot to
choose from I'm trying to debate of where I want
to go next, but I think I will go with Good question
I'll go with triple line. I think I John Hillcoats
upcoming film that to me looks phenomenal. It's
a huge day for me great cast that cast is insane
like it's like yeah potential oscar winner potential
oscar winner uh here you know and then anthony
mackey but hey he's pretty good he'd be good
too uh yeah so i'm super excited for that i'm
you know i'm only looking for a good cop drama
and that looks like it could be quite good yeah
that one's been on my radar for a long time i
think that was that's been, you know, in the
works for a couple years now, it seems like,
because I even remember people listing that as
their most anticipated film, you know, amongst
their films last year as well. But I'm in agreement,
I thought that was pretty cool, kind of give
you the feel of like a... Couple films that we
saw I'm trying to think of them but a couple
films back like 2013 with that cop drama And
it didn't seem like we got much of that last
year outside of like maybe sicario So I'm looking
for some more of those types of films and that
looks to be leading the pack So I'm in agreement
with you on that one I'm gonna go with another
nay because I got a whole bunch of nays And I'm
sorry Amanda, but I'm gonna give a big nay to
the boss with Melissa McCarthy. I have it on
here twice. I... it was... I do! I just noticed
that. It's there and there. Oh, geez. You wrote
it down twice. I am not a Melissa McCarthy hater.
I... liked... some of the films that you were
championing last year and I was looking forward
to seeing this trailer and then I saw it and
no, there was nothing good about that trailer.
That did not look like it was gonna be funny
good or anything. This is gonna fuel the fire
of people that hate Melissa McCarthy and you
should not want this to come out because it's
not gonna help your cause. I'm gonna love the
shit that was in the movie. See how she had her
turtleneck way up to try to hire eight chins?
There's gonna be a bunch of funny stuff that's
not in the trailer. I hope so, because there's
nothing funny about that trailer. What? It was
just a terrible premise. A terrible premise.
Okay, it's almost basically the same as Get Hard,
but with Melissa McCarthy, so that makes it better.
I don't know if it does. I'm giving a nay to
the boss. I am not looking. I don't know if you're
gonna be able to drag me to that line. This is
not gonna earn you any brownie points with true
bromance. I hope you understand that. I'm not
trying to earn brownie points. I'm just trying
not to have anything to do with that brownie
plot line that they're going with. I think that
it's gonna be a fucking hit. I was a girl scout.
I'm gonna be on board for this. Alright, I'm
sorry. Nay for me. You're next. Got another one
for nays or yeas, whatever you want to do I'm
gonna go with nays cuz we're on a fucking Nate
train right now and I'm gonna go with bigger
splash Tilda Swinton Yeah, I can see that I was
you know, the cast had me and I don't know about
that trailer. I was on the fence Yeah, a little
bit in the trailer I'm like no this is retarded
I don't know. I'm not gonna pass judgment yet,
but I can see where you're going with that one.
You can pass judgment all day about the boss.
I can. It looked terrible. Dan, you got enough
for another round? Yeah, definitely. I have a
few, actually. Okay. Well, I think this is not
yay nor nay. I think it's another category, which
is what the hell, and that's kindergarten cop
2. Yes. That is the dumbest thing. I've ever
probably seen as far as a trailer goes. I legitimately
saw that trailer and I'm like, is this real?
Is this like a real thing that's happening? Is
this like a YouTube video of like, oh, look how
dumb this would have been. And this is actually
a movie that's being made. I'm still convinced
that that's not a trailer. Like, I'm convinced
that that was like something that was. Filmed
in 1990 something and I somehow got it mixed
up with our trailer list. I don't know that that
can't be real I yeah, I saw it. I'm like, oh
that's so who would fall for that being a movie,
but apparently it's actually coming out Yeah,
why let's just yeah, that's everything about
that was dumb like It's legitimately exactly
the same movie Like with out Arnold, which was
the only reason that movie worked with Dolph
Lundgren like 30 years after his career was ever
relevant, with dumbest jokes, and it's just,
why? Why, like? Was that a dumb plot to begin
with? Is there a lot of people clamoring for
that? Like, you know what I could really go for?
Kindergarten Cop 2 with Dolph Lundgren. That's
what's going to do it for me. Don't worry, because
if that's successful, you know we'll start getting
the relitfuel rumors about a twins remake. I
mean, like, was Vin Diesel busy? Was, like, Sylvester
Stallone? I mean, come on now. I know Stallone's
going to win an Oscar, but there's got to be
someone better than Dolph. I mean, I kind of
like Dolph Lundgren, but, like, no. If you haven't
seen that trailer do yourself a favor and don't
ever watch it just that was awful. I agree That's
a what the hell that's nuts. That's worse than
nay I'm gonna go with one more nay at least for
me and then I have maybe one yay I can do it
in the next round but my other nay will be for
the film sing The musical animated thing with
Matthew McConaughey and a whole bunch of stars
to the cast, but I'm sorry that film looks Looks
like a stupid cash grab for the whole musical
fad of, you know, it's like American Idol's ending,
so now let's have an animated movie version of
American Idol. I don't know. It looked really
bad to me. So I'm usually a fan of music stuff.
I'm usually a fan of animated films. I am checking
out on Sing, unless something comes out that
really sways me back the other direction. So,
no go for me for Sing, Amanda. I'm gonna do another
nay with equals. Kristen Stewart and uh... What's
his name? Kristen Stewart. I'm trying to remember
what that trailer was even about. Uh, Nicholas
Holt. Nicholas Holt and Kristen Stewart not doing
it for you? Oh. Looked weird. It looked almost
like um... Shit. What's that movie with um...
It looked like Shift? Alright. With um, Uma Thurman
and um, Ethan Hawke. Where like... people don't
really have emotions and like all these people
are like genetically created and Gattaca yes,
if I kind of like that movie, but this one looked
like a weird ripoff of it like I don't get it
it looked like a mix of like equilibrium and
Gattaca or whatever that movie was called yeah,
I can see that I had to refresh myself on that
trailer though I don't remember anything about
it except for Kristen Stewart and Nicholas Holt
being in it that's what happens when you watch
like 40 trailers and 20 minutes. All right, Dan.
What else do you got? Uh, so I'm thinking we're
having a lot of nice Let me try to find a yay.
I'll go with green room I think that I'm I've
been excited for that movie for a while and I
thought the trailer kind of really Again, it
just looks chaotic in the best ways possible
and I'm really curious about it So I'm really
excited for green room and I think the trailer
is Quite good and it gives you enough without
giving way too much and just looks like it's
gonna be Insane in the best ways possible. So
I'm not usually someone that likes a lot of like
the Oh, it's not really a horror, but it kind
of has a spooky Not spooky. That's a bad word
too, but it kind of has that real edgy look and
Actually, this is on my list too. This is one
of the three or four that I was given the biggest
yay to. I like the aesthetic that this has. I
like the the feel that that trailer has. It seems
like it is somewhat similar to what we got with
his previous film with Blue Ruin and I am on
board with this 100 % and that's not even with
Patrick Stewart being but in a couple seconds
of that trailer. So if the trailer had me that
much without a ton of Patrick Stewart then I
can't wait to see the actual film. So I'm intrigued
by this one to see the least. I am also gonna
go with a yay, and that one will be the same
one that Amanda probably would like to yay, and
I'm actually, I didn't, when I read the plot
above this film, I thought this was probably
gonna be also stupid, but after seeing the trailer
for Keanu, I'm sorry, I'm on board. It looks
funny enough to me to have my interest. Amanda,
you wanna say something? Go ahead, go ahead.
That's what I wanted as my gay. I'm Keanu. At
first I was like, what? I heard the premise and
I'm like, a cat named Keanu? And it's the Key
and Peele guys? I'm like, hell yes. And then
the trailer was just that shit insane, but it
looked so amazing. We're just chasing this gangster
ass cat through all this gunfire and... I'm like
so down. I thought you were going to be worried
that the cat was going to get hurt like the entire
time. I was. I was like, oh my god, Keanu! Just
like them. I am like, Keanu! She's going to have
the Keanu shirt. She's going to have Keanu everything.
She's going all in on this one. I actually used
to wear a shirt that was like a plain white t
-shirt, but it had like a gold money chain on
the front. And I feel like, I wish I still had
that shirt so I could wear it to this movie.
Speechless. Are you really that surprised? No.
So since I stole your thunder with Kiano, do
you have another one that you want to yay? Besides
the boss, we're going to go with Mike and Dave
need wedding dates. Really? I think that looked
kind of funny. I'm surprised. I didn't think
that would be something that you went too much
head over heels for. You don't know me very well.
I guess not. Dang it. All right any last second
ones that you didn't get to say before we talk
a little bit more about the best Super Bowl spot
Dan One that I'm not sure but one I think will
be Kind of okay for 15 minutes and then get really
kind of tiresome is Hardcore Henry the the PO
the POV action film. I just think that If that
movies like I don't know how that movie is gonna
be longer than 20 minutes and seem to be okay
I get it. I could almost not sit through the
trailer. I think it's a clever point and it definitely
has that video game look to it that it's going
for, but I was almost sick to my stomach just
watching the trailer. We saw that trailer on
the big screen when we watched Deadpool. I kind
of get where you're going with this, but I don't
know if you need a whole movie like this. Maybe
a scene or two, but we looked at each other and
we're like, I don't know if we could make it
through that without having to leave the theater
for a second. It was like an instant headache.
I was like, no, this is not cool. It's an intriguing
concept. I think it'd be better as like a YouTube
thing or I don't know. I don't know if it needs
a full length film of that nature. Well, you
have a main character that doesn't say anything.
So that's. Yeah, my only other yeas were for
Bastille Day. That just has Idris Elba, so it's
automatically going to be ye for me. But I think
it's him and his element. And then stealing cars,
something I hadn't heard anything about going
into the year. But that trailer intrigued me
as well. Those are my only two other ones. Amanda,
anything else you want to throw out? No, because
you stole them all. Okay, excellent. Let me say
I lost you the looking glass. I really like the
trailer for that. So obviously it's a bit removed
from the Super Bowl, but obviously the Super
Bowl has also become like this hub for Hollywood
to just put major trailers out or Super Bowl
spots out for films. We had Secret Life of Pets
get one, X -Men, Independence Day. Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles, Jason Bourne, Jungle Book, Captain
America, Gods of Egypt, Eddie the Eagle, and
10 Cloverfield Lane all had big Super Bowl spots.
Dan, was there one that you felt won over all
of those other ones? I know you listed Jason
Bourne as your yay. Was that the best one or
was there any other that kind of took you back
as the best Super Bowl spot? Jason Bourne didn't
give us that much. It was kind of about what
we would expect. I mean, there was not much there.
But I don't know, the best one. Hmm, that's a
good question. I think seeing bebop and rocksteady
did it for you. Yeah Well, I mean that and gods
of Egypt are really going against one another
I honestly like when it comes down to it it might
be Independence Day for me because Something
about that movie looks like it's gonna be good
and I don't I don't know it maybe it won't be
but I just I have it looks a lot better than
it should be. I'm looking forward to it. I think
that one has me the most excited beyond Jason
Bourne, which I already talked about. I think
for me, it has more to do with the fact that
I've been somewhat successful at staying away
from all of the rumors and gossip and trivia
about Captain America Civil War, not to mention
the fact that I'm completely oblivious to the
comic books. or anything else that anything has
to do with it. So I had no idea who was on whose
side and what was on what, but for some reason
seeing the Captain America Super Bowl spot and
seeing the glimpse that they give you of the
lineup of each side, that kind of blew me away
a little bit. Like I said, mostly probably based
on ignorance of me not keeping up with any of
the stories revolving around that movie and who
was going to be teamed up with who, but seeing
that in that way on that Super Bowl spot did
it for me. Even though I didn't see it during
the Super Bowl, I had to watch them all afterwards,
because I'm no longer allowed to watch the Super
Bowl. But not because of you, but because of
work. I was like, I recorded it for your ass.
So Captain America was the best Super Bowl spot
for me. Amanda, what about you? Well, I was going
to say Independence Day, Dan. Jesus. Well, you
know, God's Avigis is still there. You can go
for that one. Don't insult my intelligence. I'm
going to go with TMNT. Oh my god. Are you just
doing that to say a joke? I think I liked it,
it looked funny. Megan Fox can go to hell, but
I'm excited to see Casey Jones, even if he is
green arrow, but I just want to give it another
chance. Being burned once wasn't enough. You
want to get burned again. I just think it looks
super cool. I mean, it's definitely Michael Bay
just puking all over this thing, but I'm excited.
We'll have to see if that excitement pays off.
Not as excited as Independence Day, though. All
right. Got that out there. for the record. You
have to let us know which Super Bowl spot you
thought was the best also which trailers you're
looking forward to you're not looking forward
to and let us know what you think about our our
new way of looking ahead at the predictions for
the box office and the Rotten Tomatoes and if
you're on board with that or if you think we're
doing something retarded here so um in our way
of previewing the month so we're going to take
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time to get into what we've been watching, and
like I said, we've all seen one movie for sure,
or within the last little bit, in the last couple
weeks at the theater, and that would be the box
office king, as we said before, Deadpool. So
Dan, quick reaction before we get into it a little
bit more in detail, but what was your reaction
coming out of Deadpool? Positive, negative, neutral,
what did you think? Oh, definitely positive.
I enjoyed it a great deal. It's a movie that
has its issues, it has its problems, but ultimately...
My hope going into it was that I would laugh
a lot and have a good time, and that's exactly
what happened. Yeah, it may be some juvenile
or jokes or what have you, but hey, I find those
funny occasionally, and I thought Ryan Reynolds
was... as good as Deadpool as I ever hoped him
to be. And I remember years upon years ago when
people are like getting this movie, wanting this
movie to be made and wanting Ryan Reynolds to
do it. And it's been such an arduous journey
getting it to happen. And now it did. And it
was just as good as I could have hoped. And it
was a great representation of that character.
So yeah, I enjoyed it a great deal. And I feel
like watching it again, I'll enjoy it more, because
it's so much rapid fire that I know I missed
a lot of different jokes. And sometimes just
the amount of laughter that was occurring, you
can miss things. But ultimately, it was a good
time. Absolutely. All right. Amanda, you said,
I shouldn't assume that you liked it or didn't
like it or whatever. So let's hear it. What did
you think of Deadpool? Honestly, I was not blown
away. I liked it. I had a good time with it.
I think he did really good with the character,
but I just feel like I saw everything in the
trailer. I stopped fucking looking at me like
that. I'm shocked. I thought you loved it during
it. You even said, you didn't even laugh out
loud at all. That is true. Yeah, I just, I watched
it again. Like you Dan, I think I probably would
pick up on some more stuff and maybe be able
to enjoy it. I think the opening credits scene
was amazing. I think the first, his first delve
into, you know, the car, I don't know what you
want to call it, the highway scene in the beginning.
Loved it. I, a lot of this, I just really didn't,
I didn't like it. I don't know. I think it just,
for me it had some problems. Yeah, I'm not freaking
out about this movie. I was super excited for
it, and then I was waiting to be blown away,
and I just kind of wasn't blown away. So your
expectations were just too high? I don't know,
I'm completely shocked by all of this. Yeah,
I think that's probably what it was. My expectations
were super high, and then like I said though,
I feel like I saw everything in the trailer.
Like I knew, I'm like, okay, yeah, I saw this.
And I've seen the trailer 500 fucking times,
so... saw a majority of the movie, I feel like.
I'm going to have to rethink what I was going
to say as my opening. What opening? You had something
in your head? For my opening thoughts, yeah.
I didn't have any thoughts planned. I was going
to say anybody that can't turn off their critical
thinking, I want to try to find holes in this
and can't just sit back and have fun with this
is out of their mind because I don't see how
this isn't, and I'm not saying you didn't have
fun with it, but I just think it's a... I don't
see how you can't have fun and just enjoy this
film out of all the stuff that you watch during
the course of a year. Regardless of, like Dan
said, there's holes, there's little problems
here and there, but overall, I think it's an
enjoyable film. It's a fun film. It's a film
that should make you smile, laugh, whatever.
Maybe not on your first watch. Like I said, I
know you probably had the highest expectations
out of all of us going into this film, so I can
kind of see where it wouldn't maybe meet those,
but... Maybe it's because I didn't have as high
of expectations. I was just kind of going in
It's one of the seven comic book films I'm gonna
see this year and let's see which ones work and
which ones don't but it worked for me It was
funny. I like the humor. I like the opening sequence
with the the text on the screen, etc I like the
car sequence I do have some issues and I guess
we can get into what some of those are and I
everybody's seen this film So then maybe there
will be some spoilers, I guess amongst this conversation
So we'll preface that right now, but I'll let
you start Dan. What were what were some of the
issues? or problems that you did have with it.
I don't know if I had problems, but one of the
biggest complaints I see with people is that
it's like, oh, it's just a formulaic, ultimately,
the plot that is following the same type of origins
we tend to see. And I don't think that's necessarily
a problem, because the thing with Deadpool, it's
that... you have a character that exists in a
comic book world but is self aware of that situation.
And it's basically, I kind of related to similar
to you look at spoof films, like look at Naked
Gun, look at Airplane. Those plots of those movies,
if you just look at the plot story. They're pretty
much the exact type of same plot or movie you
would see in a common cop drama if it or a common
Airplane thriller like with airplane, but it's
the thing is they spoof that well with Deadpool
the difference is the movie's not a spoof You
have a character that's a spoof. So if you need
that character to exist in a world where? He
is everything else's hand happening how by the
formula by the book exactly where it's a comic
book movie where everything else seems like a
comic book movie feels like a comic book movie
if you remove that and make it completely different
that character no longer has has relevance no
longer the point of that character so When people
had that issue, I'm like, well, if you completely
change it or go against that, then it lessens
the effect of that character, which I thought
was a brilliant idea, was bringing in the characters
of Colossus and Megateenage, Sonic, Warhead,
Lady, who is legitimately a comic book character,
and I didn't even know that. Because that's what
Deadpool needs. He needs characters to play off
of, good or bad. I guess my major, I guess it's
not even a major issue, but, you know, the villain
was kind of forgettable, just kind of one -note.
And it was more of a device, which was fine.
And I guess I could see somewhat the complaint
that a lot of the jokes were in the trailer,
but I don't know, the funniest moments for me
weren't there, like the Colossus -Deadpool fight.
I thought that was rather a highlight. You know,
mostly anything to do with Colossus I was a fan
of, and just some of the... the jabbing regarding
the overall production of the film or some of
the jokes. And also like the love montage that
was in it, I thought was quite good. And I was
also very impressed with the overall relationship
in this movie compared to a lot of other comic
book movies, it was much more effective. And
I liked how they didn't try to make a PG relationship
into an R rated movie. They used that. rating
for the better but I don't know I didn't really
have any major complaints like I said my only
complaints is that it's not you know it's the
story itself it's very it's small in the sense
where you're kind of just it's an elongated chase
film in the middle where you just have an origin
story so it like you may not I was maybe thinking
it might be I don't know, there might be more
to it or it might feel like a bigger deal than
it did, but I'm also kind of okay with that because
I'm glad it's not a story that was about the
end of the world or him saving like a city from
destruction. It was really just out for revenge,
which is kind of a welcome change for most of
the comic book movies out there. And you bring
up Colossus, and I'm not going to try to say
her name because I would fail at it miserably,
but... Not the Sonic Teenage Warhead. Yeah, but
you bring those characters up, and I know I've
heard other people kind of cite that as one of
the problems I had with the film was not necessarily
that those characters were involved, but more
of the execution, I think especially probably
from the Colossus standpoint. Amanda, what did
you feel as far as those two characters? Did
they work for you? Did they not work for you?
Or how did you feel they were included or executed?
I don't think Colossus worked for me. I feel
like his accent was too cheesy, too forced. I
didn't really like the look of him all that much.
I think there's a couple parts where I was like,
man, it looks fucked up when he's getting choked
and stuff by Gina Carano, and I was like, oh,
this is weird. I think that... Negasonic Teenage
Warhead. I liked her. I think she was a good
device. I think that the pairing with Deadpool
and, you know, her, that was a really cool relationship.
I really didn't care for his relationship with
Colossus that much. You didn't laugh at the part
where he was breaking all his bones by punching
Colossus? I did, yeah. That was one of the parts
where I was impressed with. With the baby hand
at one point? Yeah, that was... I told you I
liked that whole highway scene that's kind of
included in that point. All right. I think for
me, Klaus didn't wreck the movie. I don't think
he was great. It wasn't my favorite part of the
film. But I think if I'm trying to break down
the only issue I had, it goes back to more with
what Dan was saying about the villain. I don't
know how effective it is to have a hero and a
villain going against each other or our main
two characters where one of them can't be hurt
for them. for the most part and one of them can't
feel pain. Yeah, I was super bored with that
fight. Because then you have a fight that there's
not a whole lot of... it takes away a lot of
the, I don't know, the resonance for that fight
for me because it just seems like it's people
just bashing on each other with no effect whatsoever
or no consequence. So it was kind of a weird...
Weird pairing of abilities for me when it came
to those two characters going to add it So I
didn't maybe it goes to the more of the one -note
thing that you're talking about Dan But I just
it left those fights a little bit lacking for
me I guess It was my only complaint like I was
all in on everything else that happened in the
film for the most part outside of classes being
a tiny bit weird But other than that it was mainly
just the the main villain and I don't think it
was issue of him the actor necessarily I think
he played it fine. I just think it was a weird
It's a weird fight to resonate with somebody
as far as being able and resonate might be the
wrong word but to be able to Translate that to
us through the the big screen and and and have
us with them on that because you also have Colossus
and Gina Carano who are very similar in their
powers going at it against each other. That one
worked a little bit better for me, but it was
more so those fights. Even though they were cool
action scenes and it was cool to see the different
moves and stuff like that, it still was hard
for me to get behind as an epic comic book showdown
between the Deadpool and whatever his name was.
Francis? Francis. I guess that would be my only
issue. Other than that, I was pretty on board.
I didn't really have that issue with the final
fight, because Francis can still be killed. He
can still die. And to me, the tension in that
was more so with the... Wow, if you get her name,
it's Veronica. Her fate in trying, she was the
piece that they were trying to save, and that
was, to me, more of where the tension was. Yeah,
I mean, that's the issue when you have characters
like Deadpool or Wolverine, when they can't necessarily
be killed, they become maybe too overpowered,
so you lose a little bit of tension in that end.
It didn't really happen. And I don't know, I
guess I'm different for you guys, because I love
Colossus. I thought using completely CGI, it
was a little weird, but I kind of bought into
it and thought it was quite humorous. And like,
yeah, the accent's a little bit over the top,
but I felt the accent and the look of the character
all kind of fit and really fit in with the kind
of what the movie was going for. And his play
with Deadpool was a lot of fun. So it was a super
cartoony, like over the top. type of characterization
which I felt works for a Deadpool movie. I don't
necessarily think that same Colossus would work
for like an X -Men or Wolverine movie but for
Deadpool I felt it was fitting. Yeah it definitely
had the 90s cartoon feel but I mean I super liked
Deadpool as a character. I think Ryan Reynolds
did awesome I think the shit that came out of
his mouth was pretty outrageous and crazy and
and awesome I didn't like all the stupid senseless
titty shots that I feel like how many times do
we have to see people go into a strip club? I
really don't care and I get it. They got to use
their fucking R rating to the fullest. I just
think that was stupid Of course she's gonna be
a fucking stripper and all this other shit like
to be fair what? To be fair, that would be your
reaction no matter what the movie is if there's
somebody shown topless. Yeah, of course, because
it's just so stupid. I fucking can't stand it
anymore. It's retarded, but I don't know. I just...
I feel like my expectations were super high and
there's just some stuff that let me down in it,
but I did... I really like Deadpool as a character
in this. I think he was really well executed.
I think he did have some really cool relationships,
especially with the old blind lady. I really
like his relationship with her. Really weird,
but funny and it worked. I like that baby hand
part. Yeah, cool. Just thinking back to some
of the jokes. What did you guys, Dan, what did
you think of the X -Men references and going
to the school and being like... the jokes that
kind of play with that. Oh, I enjoyed those.
I loved the McAvoy or Stewart joke because that
very much is a breaking the fourth wall we expect
with Deadpool and the joke regarding only having
two X -Men because I was so thinking that at
the time. Of course there's only two and then
of course he says it but it very much does feel
like a Deadpool joke and I think, I don't know,
I was glad to see the incorporation of the X
-Men in that because I was sure... That's well
we knew in the trailer the fact that they went
full force with that with this movie Like they
didn't really hide away from the fact. It's in
this same universe which was interesting, right?
So I thought that was cool, too Overall, Dan,
where would you use it? Where would you grade
this one out of ten? Oh, I give it eight out
of ten All right, Amanda I'll get a six and a
half six and a half. I will give it a seven and
a half So I'm right with Dana, and I think it's
lived up to any expectation I had and surpassed
it. So I think it's a lot of fun. I think it
has a lot of rewatchability. I think it's, like
Danny said, it's a breath of fresh air compared
to a lot of the fare we get with the comic book
films, and I fear what will happen now because
of its success, but as we talked about in the
news story, but as far as Deadpool itself goes,
I'm on board, so seven and a half for me. all
right let's get into a couple other films we've
been watching amanda you also made it out to
see another theater release which i did not so
give us the update what was kung fu panda three
like I was pretty excited for this. I really,
really enjoyed the other Kung Fu Pandas. I think
especially Kung Fu Panda 2 really tucked on the
hard strings. I was expecting a really awesome
story out of this one, and I felt like it was
not quite up to par with the story. I didn't
really have any emotional pull, you know, in
any direction, good or bad. It was really...
really visually Intriguing and cool like I was
trying to take in as much of the screen as possible
because there's all these crazy they're like
in the spirit world a bunch and so all this these
crazy colors and patterns and I really enjoyed
all the the boldness of the the color and Had
the look of it. I really enjoyed that and there
was a couple scenes where all these pandas were
just like running at you Towards like at the
screen basically or you know at your point of
view and I was like, yes Come here come to mommy
just this whole village of pandas. So I mean
It was cute, but I just didn't get as much out
of it as I did the other ones out of ten. Oh
I'll go to four and a half for now. Yeah. All
right, Dan something you got to see in the last
little bit. I also got to see Everest the movie
that came out this past year Jake General Hall
and pretty much everyone. Jason Clarke and so
many more other actors. It was kind of an insane
cast. Overall, it's a movie that's been out for
a long time, so I'm not going to go very deep
into it. But I guess what was kind of surprising
to me or a little bit disappointing, and it feels
weird saying this for a movie that is based on
a true story of where people lost their lives.
It was not, did not really have the tension that
I was hoping for or expecting. It just seemed
like, I don't know, it didn't seem. Like it was
missing something. Yeah. In some way it didn't
connect in some way. The sequences, the one that
I kept going back to was the moment with the
ladder and then going up this ladder over the
steep crevasse. But that was probably the only
time I felt any sort of tension. to that extent
where it just I don't know if it was with the
editing or what where it was hard to just get
your bearings over where everyone was or what
the situation was or how much danger they were
truly in it didn't really have that effect and
I know I thought overall the did a decent job
of trying to establish these characters and the
actor I mean the cast is crazy insane though
you would almost expect a little bit more from
how many the power of the actors but it was just
I don't know at the end of the day just felt
kind of forgettable like there was nothing that
really stood out to me no sequences that really
were all that well done direction wise it just
was you know it was what it was I think it would
be better documentary than it would be live -action
film because it's just there was not much there
to really kind of grab onto or really get invested
in. Yeah, I don't know as well like you're saying
with the editing. I don't know if it was a situation
where they were just bouncing around too much.
I don't know if it was a situation where they
tried to give us too much detail on too many
characters, but I too did not feel the intimate
relation or the stakes with a lot of that. It
was almost like this one needed a little bit
of Spielbergian touch or something like that
to get us into some of these moments. There were
so many characters, I was almost... and you were
like they were so covered up and you didn't see
it was hard to even keep track of who was who
and everyone had their own little story and it
was just i got what they were going for and i
think part of my issue was that i kind of i knew
the true story regarding it beforehand or ones
were After it so I kind of knew what to expect
but it just yeah, it was hard to really just
get your bearings over You know, what is exactly
like what is it currently the situation? like
what do they need to do and and Where do we have
to go from here? And it didn't think it really
did a great job of really just providing you
the a groundwork of understanding of just the
Horrible situation they were in in a way where
you just seemed like it was just chaotic But
chaotic to the point where it was hard to really
understand what was going on Yeah, I definitely
think this one did not live up to expectations
It was a little disappointing for last year as
far as how much hype I had and anticipation I
had going into the year So did not live up to
it for me either. What kind of score out of ten
would you give that one? I would give that a
five out of ten All right. We also caught up
with a 2015 film that we had missed the first
time around. I guess good timing leading up to
the Oscar season, and that was 99 Homes, which
obviously Michael Shannon got some award love
for throughout the award circuit season or whatever
you want to call it. I really enjoyed this film.
I think it was an ending away from being a great
film. I do not like the way that this one ended.
gonna say anymore for those people that haven't
seen it I don't want to necessarily spoil anything
even though it is a 2015 release but I don't
always hate when movies end like this but for
this one it just I don't know it left too much
unsaid for me but I think Michael Shannon was
absolutely phenomenal in this I think it was
intriguing it took subject matter that might
not necessarily seem like it's going to be that
exciting or entertaining and I was I was all
in for the whole thing definitely had my attention
so I really enjoyed probably ninety percent eighty
to eighty ninety percent of this film I thought
the performances were great I thought you really
kind of got emotionally involved or Kind of in
this in the situation with these families. So
Me, I don't know how Amanda's gonna feel on this
but for me 99 homes would probably get seven
out of ten How did you feel about 99 homes? I
guess I didn't like it as much as you Maybe like
a Five and a half. I'd say maybe five what brought
it down for you. Like you said the ending I was
just like that's that's ending. That's it there
I think there were some parts where you could
super back it emotionally and be vested in their
struggle, but then there are some things that
just kind of took you out of it that I didn't
really feel were real. I mean, it was supposed
to be a very real -life situation, and I didn't
feel like it was real. I'm not saying for the
whole film, but a couple of things that happened.
I'm like, man, this is really how it's... You
know going down the ending definitely kind of
shit it out for me. All right, fair enough dan.
What do you got next? Uh the next movie I saw
I caught up with the man from uncle I know when
we did our best of list a lot of people mentioned
like that was an underrated movie and I saw that
on like a lot of people's overlooked lists and
And I can kind of see what people were saying.
I wasn't truly in love with it It's you know,
guy richie's movie from last year based on an
old tv show and there's I think a lot to There's
a good amount to enjoy with the film. I think
overall the actors are pretty solid. Henry Cavill
and Ari Hamler and Alicia Volcander. They worked
really well together. I think they're probably
the biggest highlight. And Guy Ritchie's direction
was a lot different than I expected because when
I think of him, I kind of have an idea of what
a movie is going to look like, feel like, thinking
of things like the... Snatch and Sherlock Holmes
and his Sherlock Holmes films and what those
movies are like Much different with man from
uncle. Definitely the style and I thought he
Did a great job of like mixing some really interesting
musical choices and I thought that was really
solid but really one of the biggest surprises
to me was just how Charismatic and fun Henry
Henry Cavill was in this and I'm just like what
are they're doing to him with his world superman
because You see none of that in that but he was
super Charming and you know, almost like James
Bond Ian in a way though. He was American Yeah
It was fun. It was a decent movie that probably
deserved more attention than it did get but I
can kind of see why because it's a hard sell
really where it's not necessarily it's not it's
too it's too kind of comedic and too cartoony
to be a serious film, but also too serious to
really be a similar tentpole movie. So it was
somewhere in the middle ground in that instance,
but it's worth watching. I wouldn't put this
anywhere near the top of the year though. It's
just kind of, you know, it's a standard affair.
I don't think it's really doing anything all
that new or different. It's just really a movie
that's really big on style and letting its actors
kind of... Play these kind of weird characters
that do feel like TV characters, but someone
in a good way where they're just Characterizations
of Russian spy and like American spy and it works.
Well, they work Well, they work off of one another
solidly, but I wouldn't rush out and see it if
you know, it's nothing I think I saw this one
in the wrong state of mind, too. I think I was
a little bit too tired or something because I
just absolutely could not get into this film.
I just I couldn't buy into what was going on
enough. And like I said, maybe I should watch
it when I'm a little bit more rested up. But
I'm not too motivated to do that because it just
kind of like it was just average for me. It was.
Yeah, I don't disagree. Average is a good word
for it. But I guess I thought it would be below
average, honestly, going into it. So that got
you. And like I said, I think what really sold
us were what I ended up kind of gravitating towards
was the fact that Henry Cavill was somewhat entertaining
and I didn't I guess maybe it's just Thinking
his role in Superman and how like mundane he
is in that movie in this he's so much different.
So I Don't know like I'd give it about a six
out of ten five and a half six, but yeah, I'd
be in the same range All right. We just got a
couple other ones. We can kind of go through
rather quick Amanda. What was your take on? Black
mass we caught up with that one finally the Johnny
Depp film from last year Dude looks super creepy
His contacts his look was just it didn't work
for me. It didn't really look that real You could
tell his eyes were dark with blue contacts in
them and I didn't buy his relationship with his
baby mama I'm like she is way younger than him.
I didn't get it You know I this is A while ago,
I can't even think of everything that I did or
didn't do. I think it was intriguing enough to...
I mean, I think if people don't know the story
of Whitey Bolder, like, they would be intrigued
to, like, learn more and kind of look stuff up
about him. I think it was at least... it triggered
some things in your head that made you want to
know more about those characters if you didn't.
But I don't get why they had to make him look
so fake. Like, he doesn't even look like a human
being in that film. Oh, no. It was distracting.
And it was like... I guess I just don't understand
why it was necessary. It's not like they got
him even that close to it. If you're gonna do
that much, then he should look exactly like he
did in real life, and he didn't. So I don't understand
what the point was of doing all that. I think
the trailer alluded to some pretty epic, almost
like those mobster feel that you get when someone's
intimidating someone, or you have those different
scenarios. I don't think there was maybe enough
of that. I think it's a crazy story, and I think
there's a lot to do. It's like a goldmine as
far as... the just what actually happened and
what he was able to get away with and how long
this transpires and all this other stuff and
I think they could have done a little bit more
with it but I do think it was enjoyable like
I wouldn't say it was a bad film I'm probably
middle of the road on this one maybe like a six
out of ten for me what did you give it I'll give
it a five I mean there were some cool mobster
scenes for sure all right and then Dan did you
have any other ones or no that was it for me
okay so just real quick we want to Give a quick
score for this one because I gotta just say and
try to save people the pain. We saw a film called,
is the correct title, Extraction? Yeah. With
Bruce Willis, Kellen Lutz, Gina Carano, and I
don't know who else is in this film. This is
easily one of the worst films I've seen in the
last two or three years. Is it worse than Vice?
It's right on par. They're like going neck and
neck with each other. like this movie was all
kinds of bad and it was like somewhat somewhat
fine like just middling to nothing like going
through it but the ending is awful. Kellen Lutz
somehow wasn't the worst part of this film but
Gina Carano needs to stop. Stop moving your mouth.
Because she was bad in this film. She's a totes
and jelly. She's supposed to be a CIA agent.
And they had her walk away from someone and say,
don't be jelly. And she said, this totes reminds
me of Williamsburg. And I'm like, oh my god.
The biggest problem with this film is the dialogue,
is the writing. It's absolutely terrible. And
you know a film is probably not going to be good
when they're doing the opening sequence and they
literally listed off, I think, 17 executive producers.
There was at least four regular producers, two
writers, only one director somehow. But there
was... Extraction is awful. Don't go see it.
Anybody that tells me this is a good movie is
no longer allowed ever to give me an opinion
about a movie in the future. Extraction is terrible.
Bruce Willis, I don't know what you're doing
with your life. I was sad. I love me some Bruce,
and he's just been putting out some crap. So,
Extraction would get a 1 out of 10 for me. Yeah,
I'll give it a 2. A 2? Mm -hmm. It's generous.
Hey, Calvin Lutz was actually not that bad. Alright,
except for the stare that he gives on the main
menu of the DVD screen or whatever it was. How
can you count that? That was weird. Alright,
as far as stuff coming out here, Blu -ray releases
coming out next Tuesday. We have Youth, we have
Miss You Already, The Danish Girl, Legend, The
Night Before, Creed. That's quite a few from
last year. So if you are missing out on any of
the later 2015 films, apparently this next week
is your chance to go see some of those. or pick
them up. Dan, what do you think as far as the
blu -ray releases go? We're not gonna go over
like the theater releases and whatnot because
we mainly talked about most of them as far as
our, well I guess we didn't talk about all of
them. Coming up next week we have London has
fallen, which obviously you were a big fan of
the prospects of. Whiskey Tango Fox Trot, the
Tina Fey film that I was talking about. Zootopia,
which we talked about. And probably in some type
of limited release, possibly somewhere in the
country, maybe Night of Cups from Terrence Malick
will be shown somewhere. Out of those or the
Blu -ray releases, Dan, which one strikes your
fancy the most? Well, to go back to London's
Fallen, by prospects, I thought it was going
to be bad. Is that what you're referring to?
Yeah. So I love Creed a lot. I was a very big
fan of that movie. But I want to catch up with
the night before. So I'd probably go in that
end because I really loved 50 -50. And I know
Like before didn't get nearly the praise of that,
but I still want to check it out and see and
see exactly You know how it is. So that'd probably
be where I would go All right, Amanda, which
one are you going with? I know you still want
to catch up with one of those films Yeah, I really
really want to see legend didn't get a chance
to see that in theaters But I also want to see
the Danish girl, but I think I'm gonna go with
legend All right, and for me, I'm not saying
that I don't want to see all the ones you listed
but Both you guys listed because I think I didn't
want to see all of those night before legend
and the Danish girl I did like Creed a lot, but
I've already seen that one So I don't necessarily
have to have that's not one that has to be added
to my collection quite yet I'm gonna go with
youth actually I was somewhat intrigued by youth
no matter how much you roll your eyes at me It's
an intriguing concept and intriguing people involved
so I would like to see that one. All right You
did really yeah, that's weird Alright, thanks
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say before we get this one in the books? No,
I'm looking forward to March and hopefully soon
that... Superman comes out so we can finally
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