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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Review

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About this Episode

Today on Episode 133 of the Cinema Geeks …..Optimus Solo, MovieRevolt Dan, HardCandiMandi and Fridley Cent breakdown the latest addition to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Find out where they land on Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2. Which Cinema Geek had the most fun at the theatre and how does Volume 2 compare to Volume 1? Tune in to find out with another episode of the Cinema Geeks!

 

Main Attraction:

Movie Review: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2

 

Question:

Which Volume of Guardians did you like better?

 

Geeks:

Kevin @OptimusSolo

Dan @MovieRevolt

Amanda @HardCandiMandi

Matt @FridleyCent

You got the touch! This is Stan Bush, and you're

listening to the GeekCast Radio Network. Dream

the dream. Optimus Solo and joining me once again

this week, as always, is Hard Candy Mandy. Hello?

Uh, hey dude. Hey dudette? Is that the proper

response to hey dude? No, nobody says that. Okay.

Uh, movie revolved Dan. I am Dan. I am Dan. I

like a good tie in there. And Mr. Frilly Cent.

Hey, I think the response to hey dude is a little

wild, a little strange. When you make your home

out on I like there we go. I like five people

know that reference All right, so we're here

back again with another episode of the cinema

geeks before we reveal what we're gonna be talking

about Today well, I guess we can reveal it before

we get into it though We're gonna be giving you

our review on the Guardians of the Galaxy volume

2 because hey, why not? It's a big movie. We're

geek Radio you cast radio podcast we should cover

things like comic book films and a little bit

more depth So we want to give you a full -on

review of Guardians of the Galaxy But before

then we're gonna take care of a little bit of

business and get some general conversation going

Matt and Dan both made it to the theater this

week for Guardians of the Galaxy But Dan you

actually caught up with three different films

in the last week to two weeks yeah i don't know

it's going crazy i'm going crazy i caught up

with yeah two i think both of these terms have

been out for a while but um i caught up with

king kong or kong skull island i should say not

the original but uh concert skull island and

gifted uh both of which i enjoyed for different

reasons uh you know kongs and a lot of you have

already talked about kongs skull island but uh

i just thought it was like ridiculously fun it

is kind of it is outrageous and it's like it's

an art movie in a way because it's like almost

a spoof not quite like it's on the borderline

of being almost spoof comedy in some in some

ways but still takes itself really seriously

in moments and also it looks great i think it

looks pretty pretty gorgeous kong is amazing

um and probably the It gave me all the like action

and excitement that I didn't get in Godzilla

or got way too Not nearly as much as I was hoping

for so I think maybe Godzilla's play technically

crafted film a little better. They're better

better crafted film, but but Skull Island was

hell a lot more entertaining as long as you just

don't take it very seriously because it's it

is utterly ridiculous and members of time, but

John C. Bradley was a lot of fun. I honestly

thought it was like that's like what I want for

summer blockbuster even though it came out like

in the middle of winter yeah yeah I agree I think

we both had a lot of fun with that one as well

I mean there's some problems here and there I

didn't really care for the Samuel L Jackson some

of his characterization and some of the angle

they went with him especially in the latter half

of the film but if you remove that I agree. I

think it was a lot of fun and I enjoyed John

Cirelli. I know some people had issues with his

performance or characterization and I did not

at all. I thought it was a lot of fun. Amanda,

you liked it too, right? Yeah, I think John Cirelli

was a great part of that too. I was really looking

forward to see him in that role and I liked kind

of... the epilogue that we got with him too.

I thought that was super great and handsome feel

good. Interesting you bring up Kong Skull Island

this week when we're talking about Guardians

of the Galaxy because there might be a recurring

theme of people not allowing themselves to have

fun at some of these movies. We'll get more into

that later, but how did you like Gifted? Liked

gifted it's very by the numbers I would say it's

you kind of know exactly what you're getting

and But I love the performances for the most

part and I thought the cast itself had a pretty

strong chemistry you thought Chris Evans and

I forget the actress's name but I thought they

really worked well together and You know hit

me in the fuels, you know, is it? And it like

it's very much like exactly what it is. I think

it's like, okay, it's movie called gifted where

a girl's young girl Struggling and you have this

custody dynamic to it and whatnot, but I think

you there aren't necessarily surprises. It's

You know, some could argue it's like almost a

TV movie ask in a way, but I just thought it

was you know Enjoyed it. I watched it on the

Saturday night and neither my wife or I fell

asleep So that's a huge huge boat of confidence

for it, honestly Yeah, she was good. I thought

she was quite good. And, you know, I just had

a lot of fun isn't the right word, but I just

I guess I just like being around a lot of those

characters and enjoyed the story for the most

part that it was executed. Well, I know the Spartan

Mark Web, who did 500 Days of Summer, is not

nearly as good as that. But I thought like it

was a better it was him getting back to his roots,

getting away from the Spider -Man films and getting

into more of a serious drama or something of

that nature, so I liked it. I thought it too.

It did a decent job of raising some interesting

questions when it comes to parenting and school

system and the idea of someone being gifted or

not. I don't think it necessarily goes as far

as it could have with those issues, but I thought

it raised them in an interesting way that at

least people could have the conversation after

seeing the movie and kind of... have some interesting

discourse with those topics and with those ideas

so I thought it did a decent job of kind of bringing

those up as well because I think a lot of times

gifted in the idea of someone being gifted from

an educational standpoint oftentimes does get

overlooked you know we spend a lot of time with

more or you see more I guess in culture in present

-day you know with special needs or things like

that and sometimes I think the gifted population

does not get put out there as far as what the

issues are surrounding that. So I liked how I

kind of brought those things up. Alright, so

a positive review for Gifted as well as Kong

Skull Island. Before we get to our review of

Guardians of the Galaxy, I wanted to give you

guys some information, get some business out

of the way. First of all, if you're interested

in more of our takes on current films, we are

doing a blog every month on GeekCastRadio .com

where we do our Cinema Geeks monthly movie roundup.

And what that allows us to do is we put little

blurbs out there on any film, any new 2017 film

that we saw during that month. So far we've done

one for, we combined January and February and

then we did one for March and then we just posted

last week our one for April. And sometimes it's

just a film one of us has seen, sometimes it's

two, three, or maybe even all four of us at times.

And we give like a quick review. maybe like a

paragraph or two just kind of our quick thoughts

and then we do a star rating on that so if you're

interested to see what we are thinking of as

far as the current 2017 films be sure to go to

Geocastradio .com and check that out you can

also view the individual thoughts on the films

on our individual letterbox accounts I have all

mine up to date Amanda will have hers up to date

shortly because he's making me But you can take

either venue, whether you go to GeekCastReview

.com or Letterboxd, and keep up to date with

our opinions on current films, since we don't

cover a lot of them on the main show. But we

are doing that today, so it does happen. Last

episode, too, I brought up the idea that we were

going to be doing a contest, and I know it's

more related to our video game series, but since

the last couple episodes haven't been our video

game series, I still wanted to bring it up. And

the contest that we announced last episode is

that we were going to be doing a giveaway -based

on our video game series review and based on

iTunes reviews and how that went is anybody that

posted an iTunes review for Cinema Geeks from

May 1st until the end of our video game series

will be entered into a contest to win a collection

of DVDs based on those video game films. I have

the specifics for you like I said we would last

week so that giveaway at this moment consists

of six films Dan don't don't hold your breath

too much though. The ones that we're gonna be

giving away are in the name of the king postal

doom Alone in the dark dead or alive and house

of the dead So did I name six or seven? I don't

know there's six films that we're giving away

The doom is actually a blu -ray the rest are

all DVDs So that is the prize pack that you are

entering yourself for now. I know Amanda. You're

probably saying to yourself Why is anybody going

to enter this contest? This is not going to persuade

anybody to write an iTunes review because who

wants copies of House of the Dead and Alone in

the Dark? Not to mention those other classics

that I mentioned. Correct? Correct. But you would

be wrong because we actually already have an

entrance. Yes. So we've already gotten our first

iTunes review during the contest. It's from Eric

Hutch 08. He labels the review a go -to podcast

and he gives us five stars. Says he's a big fan

of this podcast, been having a lot of fun with

the video game movie reviews and different games

they play. The preview EPs are fun too. Do wish

they would do more current reviews. Well, Eric,

you're in luck because we're doing a current

review today. So it does happen. So thanks for

that five star review. You will be entered into

the contest to win those six fantastic movies

on DVD and Blu -ray. Let's hope we get more so

we don't have to curse this one guy with all

these DVDs. And we did have a couple questions

on the website as well One of them was from Eric

He was wondering if if he gave reviews on other

shows outside of cinema geeks if he would got

more who received more chances to win So he's

actually really wanting to win this contest,

but unfortunately that we were only counting

cinema geeks reviews So you please do go review

other shows on the network But the only ones

that will count towards the contest are the cinema

geeks reviews We also got a question on the website

if it had to be on iTunes because apparently

a couple people out there do not necessarily

care for iTunes too much. We're looking into

that. I don't know what other ways you give reviews

on podcasts. I'm sure other platforms or other

ways that you can do that, but we got to look

into the logistics of all that. So please give

us more information on the website on what kind

of reviews or where you would want to leave them

and we'll try to include you in the contest as

well. Another way for you to interact with things

on the network Dan we're we're starting to prep

for a new Top 100 list like we seem to do we

used to do it every other year now Now we're

getting to the point where we're doing it every

year You want to tell them how they can vote

on that contest and what the options are? Yeah,

but you can go to geocastradio .com and on the

top right hand side You'll see a link to a Twitter

poll You can also check the geocastradio Twitter

account and there are currently four different

options. There's top 100 comic book movies, top

100 wrestlers, top 100 heroes or villains, and

also film franchises is an option. So we wanted

to give people the opportunity and see what they

wanted to see most of. I think there's a lot

of possibilities and a lot of benefits for every

different option. So if you have one that you

really want to hear around, feel free to let

your voice be heard, get other people to vote

for it. Fill the ballot, it's okay. no driver's

license needed for this voting. You just need

to have a Twitter account, I think, and you should

be good. And if anything, we all should know

that you need to vote when there's voting options.

So you need to get out there and cast your vote.

And also, even if your choice doesn't win, the

more people, the more votes we get, the more

likely we are probably to do multiple of these

lists. I guess if they got enough. votes, for

instance. So we've done these lists quite a few

times in the past, but we've never really given

you complete control on selecting what you want

to hear. So Amanda, you want to plug which one

you want people to vote for? Where do you want

people to go with this? Dude, I don't even know

100 wrestlers. So I want heroes and villains.

I think that would be the most fun. Yeah, that

definitely has a lot of interesting possibilities

when you think about different, I guess, mediums

as far as heroes maybe from TV, from movies,

from video games, from... comic books, novels,

there's a lot of ways to go whether you go heroes

or villains so definitely some choice there.

Matt what do you have a favorite out of the group?

I want to do the wrestlers just because I think

that would be fun but I don't know like yeah

I guess doing a hundred of anything is gonna

be hard. Yeah, it's always challenging to put

together, but we're we're doing the groundwork

early So we'll have a lot of time to get this

going By the time this episode airs you're only

gonna have about a day or two left to vote though

So if you're hearing this you want to go vote

immediately on Twitter or like I said good like

Dan said go to get castrated .com and find the

link on the top right where you can vote on that

poll but you're only gonna have probably less

than about 48 hours from the time you hear this

to cast some final deciding votes and I will

say There are three options out of those four

that are real real close. So every vote is gonna

matter in that so make sure you take part in

that and if you haven't heard any of our top

100s definitely go back to the archives and visit

some of those we've done top 100 animated series

animated films animated characters and regular

television series as well I might be missing

one but those have been the main ones that we've

done so alright with all that business out of

the way we're gonna take a quick break and when

we come back we're gonna give you our thoughts

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Alright, thanks for sticking with us. It is time

for our main attraction of today's episode, which

is our main review of Guardians of the Galaxy

Vol. 2, the latest from the Marvel Cinematic

Universe to hit the theaters and take over the

box office. We're going to start with just some

initial thoughts, and I guess the question or

the way I want to frame this for you guys is...

Let's start with Dan. Is there anything wrong

with a film just being a darn entertaining film,

or was Guardians of the Galaxy not entertaining

for you? Well, I guess, you know, based on the

fact that I like Kong Skull Island, you kind

of know my answer. No, I don't think there's

anything wrong with that. I mean, that's what

I think I go to the movies most often to do,

you know, is to be entertained. And I think it's

quite a skill to do that. Not necessarily, you

know, there is not to like do the, you know,

turn your brain off. It has to be, you know,

that's the kind of excuse you see for like Transformers

films. And I don't think those are entertaining,

but I think for movies... to be entertaining

and is an achievement when it's done well. I

don't think necessarily everything needs to be

shooting for Oscar -like greatness all the time.

And I had a lot of fun with Guardians of the

Galaxy. I think I have issues with it. I think

there are problems that exist with it that didn't

exist with the original, and I don't think it's

necessarily to the level of the first Guardians,

but I do think that sometimes we get spoiled

because of just how much... Greatness there is

and we don't I think appreciate in a way like

what's going on right now within Marvel when

you think about it like we have This is the 15th

Marvel film and they've been around for a decade

like The fact that they're at least at this quality

is quite amazing at this time You know 15 movies

in we were at Timothy Dalton when it came to

the the world of the Bond franchises You know,

I think Halloween was like going to hell Jason

was in space. I mean this secondly is in space.

Maybe that's a bad bad analogy, but But the quality

is, like, mean. Like, maybe there's some ups

and downs here and there. But, you know, Civil

War was amazing. I liked Strange. It was fine.

And this one was good. To me, it's like middle

of the pack when it comes to the Marvel overall

cinematic universe so far. But I enjoyed it.

I had a lot of fun with it. And there was just

things in this that occurred that I never thought

I would see on a big screen in a movie that they

actually did and the characters that they brought

in. I'm like, wow, they're actually going that

way. So that was fun. So yeah. you know, problems

but so enjoyable. Alright, Matt, another question

to go along with the idea of is there just anything

wrong with something being entertaining that

doesn't necessarily have to be Oscar caliber

when it comes to a think piece or something like

that. But the other question, a lot of people

have made the comment, well I guess we have two

sides though. We have one side that thinks about

the comic book or the Marvel movie Fatigue or

those superhero fatigue. And I've also heard

a lot of people say that Marvel hasn't missed

yet. They haven't had a misstep, they haven't

had a complete flop or a failure. So you can

really react to that statement to it did Guardians

of Galaxies that another notch in the belt for

Marvel another film that works Or is this a miss

for you? Oh? Man like they haven't had a flop

just statistically they haven't had a movie not

do well at the box office I'd say Iron Man 2

could have been a lot better though But like

I don't get the idea like the movies are for

entertainment Like, fun is entertaining. I don't

see how you need to, like, dissect it any further

than that. Like, if you enjoy it, like, why you

gotta be like, ah, I don't know, it didn't make

me think. Like, if you wanna think, go read a

classic piece of literature. Don't drop $8 and

go to the cinema and expect to have a life -changing

experience, because that's not gonna happen all

that often, if ever. So like yeah, this is like

just a fun action II funny movie Like is all

I really really want and this has got more than

that guys Yeah Amanda get your quick thoughts

before we kind of delve into this a little bit

further. What's your initial take? You think

this is another success from Marvel or are you

feeling the superhero fatigue? No, definitely

not here. Doctor Strange was, you know, pretty

low for me, but still a super cool -looking movie

and entertaining. This, I think, is... I would

say, man, it's hard for me to tell which one

I like more between the two here, but this much

anticipated sequel definitely did not disappoint

me whatsoever. I think another thing, too, that...

Give me a way to kind of segue into another rant

that I would go on but I'll avoid that but I

I don't understand the need and maybe it's just

because we live in a world where Twitter and

Facebook and message boards and forums have seem

to taken over as far as like the water cooler

conversations and a lot of those places tend

to have an overly negative tone and it's more

likely that someone's going to tell you why they

don't like something or why they have a problem

with something than just celebrate something

and I don't know I think people think it's easier

than it is to make a movie first of all and when

a movie does as much right as something like

this does I think we're too fast to discount

it for different reasons and I don't understand

the qualifications for liking things. It's almost

like the same argument when someone likes something

and they're accused of looking at it with nostalgic

glasses or rose colored glasses or it's just

the nostalgia talking or whatever. I don't see

the problem in that. Who cares? The reason is

that somebody enjoys something. If it's enjoyable

and it's entertaining, then didn't that... title

or you know movie or TV show succeed with what

I wanted to do which was entertained in the first

place and probably a side effect you know also

make money which all the Marvel films are doing

so I'm with you guys I have this may be the most

fun I've had in a movie in years. Kevin was brought

to laughing tears, and I have never ever seen

that. I literally missed part of the movie because

I physically had to take a napkin and wipe tears

away from my eyes. I was laughing so hard. Doggies

will be dying in movies and shit, Kevin won't

be crying a fucking tear, but then Yondu's like,

I'm Mary Poppins, y 'all, and Kevin loses his

shit. I now know what it's like when Amanda loses

her ever -loving mind and can't stop laughing

because I wasn't loud with it, I don't think,

but I swear. I missed like six lines of dialogue

after he said that. I was trying to get him to

stop so we could see the next funny things. He

was still laughing about the last funny thing.

So I enjoyed the film. Let's get into it a little

bit more, I guess, layer by layer here. Let's

first break it down with one thing that this

franchise is known for so far. A franchise, I

guess, two movies. Which is the music in the

film? So I wanted to get your guys's take. How

do you think the music was handled? Maybe I guess

in comparison to the first one. Did you enjoy

the music was a you know? Just one in the same

with what the first one did they use it better

worse or what do you think? Let's start with

Amanda What do you think about the music and

volume to the next day here? I actually think

that even though the music was you know a big

part of this second one I feel like it definitely

was more in the forefront of the first movie

like it was a big thing surrounding the first

you know in the first movie everything was kind

of surrounding it and I feel like the song choices

were much cooler in the first one and more iconic

but You know, this second movie still had a pretty

good soundtrack, pretty solid soundtrack, but

not something that... Like, I have the first

Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack. I'm probably

not gonna go out and get the second. but that

didn't distract really from the movie. It just

wasn't as big of a deal in the second one for

me as it was in the first one. And obviously

the soundtrack is not just, you know, your typical

movie soundtrack. They find ways to interweave

this into the story. Obviously we have the Walkman

that Star -Lord carries around, which was highlighted

here in this Volume 2. Matt, what do you think?

How did the music work for you in Volume 2? Oh

man, I like... Part of me wants to agree with

Amanda that it wasn't quite as important as the

first one Like especially because the first one

came from this place where it's like his mom

has cancer And this is the gift she gave him

and it like has this you know emotional impact

But I don't know that it's necessarily Less impactful

in the second one especially when they break

down Brandy down to the lyrics, and it's like,

I've heard that song a million times, and I pride

myself in listening to the lyrics of songs and

in questioning, you know, where do these lyrics

come from, what do they mean? And I hadn't done

that with that song, and so that gave that song

a new meaning, a song that I've heard a million

times. So I don't, like, I loved it. I loved

the soundtrack in the first one, the second one.

I haven't bought either of them. So like if that

means anything that I maybe I don't like it as

much as Amanda But like I still enjoyed both

and I think that they were both they did a great

job weaving them in rather than Just making it

be a thing that was there like because sometimes

you could just throw in Music from our era or

our world into a movie and it's just there and

it's not discussed But I think the Guardians

have done a great job both times Dan, Matt brought

up the fact that they even do break down the

lyrics of one of the songs on the film for us.

Like I said, the Walkman plays a key part as

well, I guess, in a certain moment from an emotional

standpoint. Do you think those moments work for

you? Are you agreeing with Matt or Amanda in

their take on the music? Yeah, I guess it didn't

work for me as much as the first one did. But

I think it was... I don't know why. I feel like

it was more so I was in my head just trying to...

figure out understand and get an idea where the

plot and story was going that the music didn't

stand out as much and since like with the first

guardians like i felt like the trailer itself

set up that music a lot where this wasn't necessarily

the case i did like a lot of the choices and

um and i thought that they were effective and

very unique for films like it i feel like a lot

of movies use a lot of the same music over and

over again where this was where this didn't do

that uh but It didn't, I think, just work. I

didn't notice it as much. But I think that was

purposeful, because I don't think you can necessarily

do exactly what I did before. I think it tried

different ways to interweave the music, which

was smart. But it wasn't necessarily a detractor

for me, because I think it was effective in what

it was doing. But I didn't necessarily. I didn't

feel like I watched the first Guardians the day

after I bought the soundtrack. This one, I haven't

done that yet. Maybe I will after watching it

a second time. But after first viewing, the music

didn't necessarily hit me the same way. Maybe

I don't like that type of music as much as the

other one. I think it works, and I do like the

way that they interweave it. I do like the scene

where they break down the lyrics as well. I think

I would agree with what... Dan and Amanda are

saying I don't know if if it's a factor of I

like it or More or less than the first one. I

just think the first one it's more of what that

movie is more Driven by and it's more kind of

part of the core of that movie Like if you think

of Guardians of the Galaxy volume 1 you think

of the music I don't think you're gonna think

of Guardian of the Galaxy volume 2 and necessarily

the first thought is not gonna be the music I

think it's gonna be different elements of the

story for me. It's gonna be the comedy like I

think Two is funnier than one and so I'm going

to think more about the jokes when I think of

the second one I might think of the music more

when I think of the first one But I don't think

it's a detractor from from the film at all Let's

get some more of the technical stuff out of the

way before we kind of get into the characters

and the stories Apparently a divisive topic amongst

at least some people on Twitter and Facebook

as far as when it comes to Guardians of Galaxy

2 has to do with the visuals. I know we've just

ended with Dan, but let's start with you on this

one. How do you think the visual effects worked

in Guardians of Galaxy 2 and what was your movie

going experience? Did you see this in regular

standard format? 3D, IMAX, what kind of format?

Standard format, I actually watched it in like

one of the oldest theaters in... North America

or Eastern Seaboard. I don't know. It's in Baltimore.

It's one of those theaters in Baltimore and it's

it's great classic setup So it's just your your

typical it has the old -fashioned seating where

it's on stadium. It's all flat. So Maybe that

impacted it but everything looks great to me

Like I didn't notice any issues with the you

know I thought rocket was amazing like like he

was like they can really convey a lot of emotion

with them Maybe group look great. I love the

colorful designs. I like it. It really so out

last time I think they continued it like the

like they really had a surreal atmosphere to

ego which makes sense because it's such a strange

looking planet and the fact that they kind of

and I guess this would be spoiler so I don't

want to spoil it but maybe I can talk to it later

basically how it ties into his origin a little

bit and what they classify ego as so if that

makes sense yeah but but yeah I thought it looked

great like I thought it was I don't know. It

just seems like pretty standard. Not standard,

but like I had no issues with the look of it.

Amanda, what about you? Any visual moments that

stood out for you that you liked more than others

or that were memorable for you? Overall, I loved

the look of the film. I think the color was the

most striking thing for me I loved when they

had you know multicolor things like there's a

scene where you see some multicolor bubbles and

All these like explosions with of color everywhere

that you see even in like, you know the characters

the use of costuming to sometimes the color is

very bold but it's not distracting it's very

complimentary I love it and I was just kind of

wowed by that and also the detail of everything

was just amazing from again costuming to their

weapons the look of all of the planets and ships

and stuff they're on are super amazing and I

think that also like the special effects were

extremely well done too loved it Matt, anything

that worked or didn't work for you from a visual

standpoint or anything that you kind of stood

out? Oh man, like I loved, I think the thing

that stood out to me like beyond what has been

talked here is when they had the room where like

it was a bunch of monitors from different camera

angles and you could see like other like You

know, it's like the in the space battle where

they could you could see all these different

monitors from all these different points of view

in the space battle and How they all kind of

synced and meshed up and you could really feel

like you were there and it was like a real thing

They didn't just kind of make them blurry or

or not worry about it It was like a minute detail

that you may not have worried about but they

did and it really worked That's one thing that

really did it for me All right, yeah, I thought

they did everything. I agree with everything

that everyone else said. I thought they did a

great job with Rocket, a phenomenal job with

Baby Groot, and like Amanda was saying, the colors

that were used here in different things, whether

it be the environment or costuming or skin color,

I guess, in some cases, really popped and really

stood out. I was blown away by a transformation

sequence, I guess we'll call it, and I won't

get into specifics, but there's a transformation

sequence that involves like a skeletal image.

a body and I was in awe during that scene like

I was almost like I wanted the movie to like

slow down for a minute so I could enjoy that

scene or like rewatch it real quick because I

don't know and I've heard people rip that specific

visual effect but I thought it was it had the

same effect as when I watched like Terminator

2 and I was just blown away by that sequence

especially and then there was some other things

that they did with visual effects as far as lighting

especially with Yondu's arrow At one point when

everything goes dark and all you can see is the

red arrow going through I thought that was a

pretty clever Decision as well and I enjoyed

watching that sequence. So I had no problems

with the visuals I thought it was a fantastic

film to look at and not just for some of the

other reasons that have been said Alright, well,

let's get down into it a little bit with a again

trying to avoid spoilers until the end when we'll

get into that a little bit more But Dan, what

did you think of the overall story or the you

know? The direction they decided to go here and

the plot that's being used in Guardians of the

Galaxy I guess what I learned from Galaxy 2 wouldn't

sense a plot is how it didn't have too much of

it. The story itself I don't think really kicks

in until really the third act in a lot of ways.

It really just became an opportunity for these

characters to develop. and communicate with one

another. I mean, I was kind of disappointed that

they did separate for a period of time, but I

thought that allowed for some really great moments.

Like, I did not expect Yondu to be a standout

character, but he ended up being maybe one of

my favorite parts of this entire movie. And similar

with Nebula, who I thought like, wow, I love

what they did with her as a character and her

relationship with Gamora. She was kind of like

a throwaway character in the first one, but she

ended up becoming so much more complex and...

sympathetic as a character and I wholly hope

that she continues with this franchise. That's

all I'm all say the rest so Amanda I was gonna

ask You know like Dan said there's not necessarily

a lot of levels to the plot That's not like a

complex and complicated story They do have where

we split off and kind of follow a couple different

groups So they are able to kind of go in a couple

different directions there But the overall kind

of main theme of the story is relatively simple

Does that work for you or are you hoping for

something a little more complex? I think a majority

of it Seemed to be that the importance was surrounding

developing These relationships within the group

to bring the group to a higher level of Connection

and like grow their bond it did kind of bug me

a little bit too like Dan how it they were separated

off For quite a bit. I wanted more of the team

dynamic the team together. I mean you did get

that but it you know the first one they're all

together all the time and it really worked and

here we see them split up a little bit so it

definitely felt a little bit like of a connector

film but you get this story that kind of expands

everybody's story Little bit and you know developing

these characters, but then you also get this

bigger plot with Quill and his dad So I thought

that was super cool to see that then it's in

the first movie you focus on his relationship

with his mother and You have this mystery when

it comes to his father and now that mystery is

revealed and you can see some of these issues

Kind of come out with quill and dealing with

still with his mother losing his mother and also

now Meeting a father that he has never met before

I can relate to that I mean I didn't grow up

with my dad So being an adult and now having

a relationship with my dad I can definitely you

know understand a lot of the things that was

going on there So the story worked for me more

in a personal level too, so that's all I can

you know speak to but I think that the story

wasn't as Focused on the group but still it was

because you're getting more of these pieces of

the the characters that you wanted to see from

the first one All right, Matt Do you agree or

disagree with both of them as far as the splitting

up of the group? And another thing that I've

heard is that a lot of people had problems with

the story maybe dragging or not going as fast

in the second act or that it kind of stalled

out and that they felt like the pacing wasn't

good. Did that have any effect on you or what

do you think about those thoughts? I don't know

that I thought I had any issues with the pacing

and I didn't begrudge the splitting up of the

party because I like that it allowed you to build

this tension and tell the same like it's got

the same story where some characters are like

right in the mix and learning about it where

other characters are outside of Said mix learning

about what's happening in it and then they need

to reconnect at the end for the final act I also

like I think that that's a good idea When you

have a cast that gets as large as this like at

some points Arguably like nine characters are

the Guardians of the Galaxy. It's like Is there

enough things for nine people to do on this one

place when we have an entire galaxy to explore

or universe to explore? And I think splitting

them up is a great idea for the sake of the story.

and I think a lot of the little bits that we

learned because of the split we would not have

learned without it and so I enjoyed it because

of that. Although I guess I get like where it's

like you know and it's like maybe you wanted

more from Gamora on Ego because she didn't do

as much as the other guys did or like maybe you

want more from this guy here but it's like with

the cast as big as it is you're never going to

get enough of everyone and it's going to be even

worse if they're all together. Yeah, I can see

that, too. I can see that it would be a little

bit hard if they're all together the entire time

to do what they were able to accomplish by splitting

them off. So it's kind of like a, you know, six

of one, half a dozen of the other. Dan, you mentioned

a couple of the characters there that you were

surprised got as much screen time. Maybe talk

about those characters or talk about other characters.

Who do you think, you know, who were your favorite

characters in Guardians of the Galaxy Volume

2? Who did they use more effectively? Who maybe

did they drop the ball on or were less effective?

What do you think of the character? overall and

what were your favorite ones? I mean I thought

that they used the characters pretty effectively.

I don't know, there were some really great moments

I felt with him in this, but there were some

times where I felt like they really pushed him

to force in some comedy here and there when it

wasn't needed. I think of when they first meet

Ego, and he's asking me about his anatomy, and

I'm like, that seems, I don't know, it seems

a little bit of a forced joke there. And that

was kind of a common problem I had at times where

it did seem like there were... moments in which

there was too much comedy. But looking specifically

at the characters, like I said, I like what they

did with Rocket and Yondu. I love the relationship

they had. And you know, I did, I didn't really

like the regroup and it led to one probably my

favorite scene, which was the, their attempt

to get out of the reaver, not the reaver, that's

Firefly. It's the same difference, but with Root

Racket and Yondu trying to getting out of the

prison jail cell, that was like one of my favorite

moments. So I did like their use of Baby Groot

and how he became a sympathetic character. So

that was a lot of fun. I didn't expect him to

be, like I know they said he was gonna be a baby

the entire time, but they held to that. So credit

to them. And overall though, I think to me the

standout character in this was that. It's kind

of a spoiler though, because it goes into the

theme of the film. Let me just say I felt Marvel

fixed their villain problem with this, and this

maybe has one of the best developed... villains

in a Marvel movie in some time. I agree and that's

something I haven't heard enough people comment

about because everybody always makes a complaint

that Marvel doesn't do villains well and I think

this immediately rises to the top. One, two or

three villains probably that we've had in this

whole cinematic universe. I was very worried

at the beginning of the film because You know

we get the trailer and obviously the trailer

highlights a main joke by or main comedic moment

by Drax and then in the film almost the first

like two or three comedic moments that we get

out of Drax are almost the same way you know

the same type of thing where we're just going

to be laughing you know in the Drax style of

laughing at something like that and I was worried

that they were just going to do that over and

over and over and over again the entire film

and they did do it a healthy amount but at the

beginning I was real worried that it was going

to be overdone and I don't feel like it necessarily

was but I think it was right on the borderline

as far as their use of his laughter and his sense

of humor for that but I did like Drax as a character

overall I did think that somehow this is just

the absolute perfect role for Dave Bautista because

if you would have told me before the first film

that two films in Drax was gonna be as successful

of a character as I was I would not have believed

you because it just doesn't seem like that should

work but James Gunn definitely knows how to work

with Dave Bautista and how to direct this character

or create this character in a way that's going

to highlight Batista's strength and minimize

his weaknesses, so to speak. So I didn't like

Drax. I agree with Dan. I liked Baby Groot. I

was surprised at the amount of time and the amount

that I liked Yondu as well. I think if maybe

I was to point out somebody that I was disappointed

with, I do think, you know, kind of Gamora was

a lost character in this film that didn't have

a lot going for outside of the slight element

with Nebula in the sister aspect, but overall

I was pleased by the characters in general. Amanda,

what did you think? Yeah, I agree. I definitely

agree too that I felt that Gamora, who was quite

a big part of the first one, was not so much

in this. I think she was definitely still important,

and I think her development in her relationship

with Nebula was super cool. I like that too.

but standout characters for me was definitely

Baby Group and definitely Yondu and all the cameos

that we got were pretty cool too so I think that

Yondu definitely was freaking hilarious I loved

his stuff and he's such a badass creepy looking

dude but super badass and I'm glad that I had

different feelings for him now in this one that

I did in the first I think that was super cool

how you see him in a completely different light

here I like that a lot and I think You know star

lord and ego their back and forth was pretty

cool. I did like ego I thought he was interesting,

but you know fucking kurt russell dude and that

hair so Super cool stuff going on between us.

That's the whole part where dan was trying to

avoid spoilers. I'm not giving anything away

am I? But uh kurt russell and his fucking hair

was super glorious and seeing um You know how

quill reacted to seeing him and his dad that

brought out, you know different parts of them,

too. So Pretty cool. Stop fucking interrupting

me like an idiot. I'm not trying to... What did

I give away, sir? I guess most people would know

that that's who the character was, etc. What

do you mean? Like, people don't know that Ego

is his dad? They gave it away in the fucking

trailer. Did they? Yeah. They announced it, like,

when they announced the second movie. Like, I

knew Ego was his dad. Two years ago, and I was

a little upset because I was like, how does that

work? Like he goes a planet So get off my case,

bro Matt Taser face your favorite character or

who did you like and dislike from this version

of the first? Man like Taser face my dude. Oh

I wanted like Amanda barely touched on it, but

I think the the cameo game in this movie was

so on point like like from from characters that

were like minor characters that you'd see once

or twice to just like two seconds i think stanley's

cameo is the worst cameo in this dang movie yeah

it was great like like everyone else is so good

uh you know it's spoiler free but just know that

there are some really good ones in there um i

love i love i love tazer face honestly though

At the end of the first movie, the character

I wanted more from was Nebula, and you got more

from Nebula. Not just more screen time, but she

actually talks in this one. and so like I loved

that and I loved the exploration of that like

the character development of this movie was so

good and it makes it so easy to enjoy these characters

both the good guys and the bad guys like I know

their motivations I get why they're doing their

things and I love it like they did a such a good

job with the characterization of this movie I

think it's probably its strongest suit even over

the comedy Speaking of comedy, let's get into

that a little bit. You and Dan both kind of mentioned

it a little bit in your comments. Something that

I think Guardians of Galaxy 2 definitely amped

up a little bit as far as their attempts for

comedy. A lot of people saying that some of them

are forced or that the comedy was forced overall.

Was it just a few jokes here and there, Dan?

Was it an overall feeling or how did the comedy

work for you overall for volume 2? I think it

was definitely more hits than misses, but there

were more misses than this than there were in

the first Guardians. Just some jokes, I felt

a little tilt to Telegraph, like the lazy face

joke, for example. I thought it was good, but

it just went on maybe a tad too far. I could

have done without the one character laughing

on the monitor before that. Yeah, that just seemed

a little much. And then there were like. It got

to the point, too, where it just was so constant

that some moments that I think ended up being

ruined for me because I was just waiting for

the joke. For example, there is a moment where,

since we know that Star -Lord and Ego and Dad,

or Father and Son, that they're playing catch,

basically. And I think it was a moment designed

to be sincere, but I was just waiting for the

punchline because at that moment in time, we

pretty much ended every scene with a punchline.

So I didn't necessarily appreciate it on a sincere...

level because i'm like okay is where's the joke

is someone gonna get hit in the crotch with a

ball like where's what's happening here um that

didn't happen so maybe on a rewatch i'll appreciate

that more but i do think like there there was

a lot of comedy and that's fine i think that's

part of what makes these characters work is their

bickerness and how they go back and forth and

whatnot but i do think that like they were they

maybe could have uh you know made made a few

less jokes and have a higher percentage but you

know i never like Rolled my eyes or was annoyed

with it. I just felt at times where I'm like,

okay I think I think I think you didn't need

to say that but Amanda was it too Too fast too

furious as far as the the repetition or the pacing

of the joke after joke after joke Or did it work

for you? In your case. Yeah, because you're still

freaking cracking up and you're missing more

funny stuff It's definitely something that I'm

gonna like to rewatch and so you could pick up

and laugh again all these jokes and maybe catch

any that you laughed through the first time Kevin

so I think even the comedy is gonna be something

that holds up for you know at least a couple

watches there so I didn't think it was too fast

I do agree like Drax's laugh was like kind of

stupid for a little bit but it was it was cool

to see him let loose he got his revenge he's

worked Most the way through his issues that he's

had with this this tragedy that's happened his

life now He's embracing the new family and he's

embracing life after revenge and he's his you

know He's so much lighter As far as like, you

know, his heart is lighter. So I think that a

big reason why we see him laughing a lot more

in this I think comedy is always you know one

of the most subjective things to try to analyze

or try to like critique because everybody does

obviously have a different sense of humor I agree

that there was some misses here and there and

but you know if you're shooting as many times

as you are in this film you're bound to have

more makes as well so I do think there was a

lot of funny moments there's more funny moments

in this one I think than the first one but there

was also more moments that I probably was like

well that didn't quite work on me but it's okay

when you have so many other jokes it's like watching

stand -up comedy not every joke is going to be

funny to you but if the majority leaves you laughing

and you know you leave with a sense that that

was funny then you're not going to remember as

many of the misses Matt how did the comedy work

for you overall was there anything that stood

out or was there anything that was a big miss

for you? I think overall the comedy was great.

I do think there were a couple of times where

they hit it a few too many times. Say specifically,

see I feel like the Baby Groot one went on for

perfectly long enough and one more would have

been too much. I think the the fruits not ripe

one went on too too long. Oh I thought that was

hilarious, especially when the payoff happened.

I was like yes! See I thought I think I dislike

the payoff because it kind of ruined a tense

moment But like I get why they wanted it to ruin

that tense moment like but I don't know I feel

like a couple of them just went out a little

long But like for the most part. Yeah, dude.

It was great And like I've been I've been texting

people that I'm Mary Poppins y 'all like all

the time Who's he? He's a badass. I'm Mary Poppins,

y 'all! I lost my ever -loving shit at that.

It is so good. That moment, the moment Dan was

talking about with the jail cell and baby Groot,

the moment with the tape, even though that was

kind of teased, I guess, beforehand. all those

moments and I do think that's another good thing

that the Guardians of the Galaxy has done is

you know they do have those action sequences

or moments where they're not even showing the

action they're showing something completely different

like baby group dancing or rocket you know trying

to find tape and you know all that type of stuff

where you have all this other stuff going on

in the background but it's like we don't have

to show you all that you know that's what's happening

these guys are superheroes they're fighting you

know and that type of stuff's happening but I

think what Dan said with the taser face I think

that went a second too long or a joke or two

long and I thought like the David Hasselhoff

might have gone a bit too long as well but for

the most part that those those good comedic moments

outshined that so much that I like I said I have

not laughed that much in a movie in a long time

and I will never forget the Mary Poppins y 'all

line it was It was perfect. What about favorite

moments or any issues or problems kind of the

last thing we'll talk to before we go into our

grades and then get into spoilers after that.

So Matt or Dan, excuse me, any favorite moments

that you had that we haven't touched on and any

other issues or problems that you had with Volume

2? I feel like my favorite moments would be spoilers.

So we can save that until later then. Yeah. No

other issues really. Like I said, I love the

chemistry of the characters. Is Sylvester Stallone,

is that a surprise? I had no idea he was even

in this movie. Well I didn't except for that

they did put his name at the beginning as far

as when they were naming people off and I was

like okay so I was ready for it but I had no

idea going in that he was in this. Yeah I was

like I didn't know if that was gonna be some

like reference that Stallone being an alien or

something like that but that was it wasn't like

a bad favorite moment it was just more like I

can't believe Sylvester Stallone's in a Marvel

movie that is really weird to me. I feel like

that would be a bigger deal than it was, but

no. I think, yeah, I'll say the rest is for spoilers.

Alright, fair enough. We'll come back to you

then on the other side of the spoiler break.

Amanda, anything non -spoilerized, non -spoilerized,

yes, because that's a term, that you want to

get into as far as favorite moments or any issues

or nitpicks that you had about the film that

brought it down a little bit for you? Ah man,

nitpicks. I think I already kind of brought those

up and they were super minor. As far as some

of my favorite scenes, I think a lot of the stuff

with Groot worked really well for me. And I think

one of my favorite scenes was a scene with Rocket

just being a badass. So that was super freaking

cool. Also, when they're first getting to Ego's

planet, I thought that was really cool because

you're seeing such cool stuff. Yeah, I think

one of my other favorite scenes is gonna have

to be in spoilers, definitely. And you bring

up an interesting scene because I've heard the

argument from a couple people too that there

was no good action sequences or no good action

scenes in this film. And I think... there's a

Yondu has one and I think you just brought up

that rocket raccoon has a great scene that's

full of action and kind of whatnot as he's showing

off his skills I don't understand that complain

I guess maybe on a grander scale but there's

even a couple of those that were included so

I don't know about that Matt favorite moments

or other issues or problems that you haven't

brought up yet I don't know if I can point out

a favorite moment I love I love this movie oh

I do have I guess a minor nitpick which is that

there are times where the characters are just

like so like over the top and not like in a comedic

way where it's just like um like one person's

running from a machine gun for like two minutes

and it never gets close to hitting them even

though it's like you know hitting at their feet

or like one character who could just I could

fight 50 dudes and then lose all of a sudden

like like a couple of like weird moments like

that that I disliked but at the same time I don't

know, man, it's not an action film where it's

supposed to be ramping up this tension of is

Rambo going to save the day? It's way more of

a superhero slash comedy movie and you kind of

expect your characters to be overpowered and

invincible in those. So it's not nearly as much

of an issue, but it did take me out of it once

or twice. Fair enough. All right, final thoughts

and grades before we get into some spoilers.

Dan, what kind of grade are you going to give

Guardians of Galaxy 2 and any other final thoughts?

I'd give Guardians of Galaxy 2 a 7 out of 10.

Like I said, it's a movie that has problems,

but I think it does a lot well what a lot of

our films fail to do when it comes to characters

development on every app. and I think it's maybe

not getting appreciated enough for that. And

yeah, there's some issues here and there, but

I think, I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, but I

feel like this is one people maybe appreciate

more and rewatch as they kind of realize, I think.

what people got was something different than

they expected. So the maybe the appreciation

isn't where it should be. I don't know. I feel

like though mostly it is positive. I don't think

there's a lot of I think most people I talked

to have seen it enjoyed it. So maybe there's

some naysayers because that's the way the way

the world works. But anyways, so I liked it.

I would definitely see it again when I'll add

to the collection and Yeah, looking forward to

getting about Volume 3. Alright, Amanda, a lot

of times these second movies, and I'm not saying

this is going to be a trilogy, maybe it'll be

more or not, but a lot of times if you do have

at least three or more movies, the second one

sometimes gets not as much love because it's

kind of a developing movie. Did you feel like

it was that? Did you feel like it was standalone,

good enough on its own without Volume 1 or anything

to come later on? And what's your grade on, Cardians?

I definitely don't think it should be a standalone

film. It's definitely a connector film. You know

that there's going to be some more these guys

but it did have some closure and there was some

solidarity to what they developed too so you

got closure in places not like that I don't like

a movie that doesn't give me some sort of closure

drives me nuts I want to give this an 8 8 .5

I really really liked it I thought the look of

the tone everything about it was awesome especially

the characters and stuff that we got here so

I definitely want to rewatch this all right Matt

what do you think final thoughts I'm great for

Oh man so I've been saying probably since Iron

Man 2 and I've definitely held strong to this

point up till now that the second Marvel movie

second the sequel to every Marvel movie I don't

know the second one of any one of the Marvel

movies is always the worst like Iron Man 2 I

think is not as good as Iron Man 1 or 3 Cap America

2 I don't think was as good as 1 or 3 and Avengers

2 was nowhere near as good as that first one

That said, I think that that line is a lot blurrier

here. I think this one's way closer to the first

one and very enjoyable, but like Amanda says,

you can't watch this without the first one for

sure, but what it does is it builds on that rather

than just. like trying to rely on that cache

built by the first one. It creates more and adds

more to it rather than draining from the total.

And I think that's like it's one of its strongest

suits. I love this movie. I think it's a very

solid eight out of 10 and I might be able to

be convinced to go up on that. All right. I think

another thing that we got out of this, you know,

you had James Gunn doing that first one and I

would think or hope that you know, this is kind

of a film where if there was any limitations

on him in the first film, they probably wouldn't

have been existing for this one. based on the

success of the first one kind of out of left

field and how how well that was received. So

you got to think that he had a little bit more

to make the film that he wanted to make with

this one as well. I thought most things worked.

Yeah, there's a few minor things I could point

out here and there. But and I don't want to compare

it necessarily to the first one because I have

not had a chance to rewatch the first one since

we've seen the second one. I want to kind of

now go back and rewatch the first one before

I say it's better or worse or whatever. But I

think it's definitely on par and it feels like

it's, you know, of the same ilk, whether it's

slightly above. slightly below I would probably

give this one I'm I was thinking eight and a

half as well but I could I could probably be

convinced to go higher but I don't want to because

that maybe just you know because it's so fresh

on my mind and because I had so much of a blast

in the theater laughing harder than I ever have

before it seems like so I'm gonna say eight and

a half but I think we're gonna take a quick small

break very quick get another ad out there and

then we'll come back with some spoiler talk before

we close this one out so we'll be right back

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with us. We're going to get into a little bit

of spoilers here for Guardians of the Galaxy

2, so everything is fair game. Dan, you talked

about some favorite moments that might have been

spoilers, so you can go ahead and go on those

as well as any other spoiler talk you want to

get out. One was actually one of the end credits

scenes. It was the one that actually kind of

points to what is coming down the pike with the

link to possibly Adam Warlock. It was that cocoon

thing, and for people that don't know Adam Warlock.

a big part of the Infinity and the Gauntlet storyline.

He was a huge cosmic character, kind of the level

of Thanos. Hasn't really been used a lot in comics

recently, but he's a great character. He's actually

part of the Guardians of the Galaxy reboot series

that happened in the mid -2000s. And we've been

waiting for him to show up for quite some time

now. So the fact that they actually kind of...

Introduced him or was kind of cool and I did

like the fact that the fan theory of Stanley

being a watcher in all these movies has been

confirmed Based upon the cameo may not have been

the best cameo, but I did I'd kind of like that

I mean it made me a little on the nose, but I

did like the fact that watchers to chill up because

that's I do love those characters real quick

before you get into any other spoiler talk let's

get around and real quick and just get quick

reactions to the post credit sequences a lot

a lot to do about maybe a much I do about nothing

as far as people freaking out or having over

reactions if there was gonna be five six whatever

many credit scenes there was gonna be Amanda

what was your overall take on the end credit

scenes oh they were super good liked them the

Stanley cameo was a little weak but I do think

that that theory was pretty cool too So not bad.

I love the teen Groot one. I thought that was

awesome. I was sad It's like a puppy. You just

want him to stay cute and little he was still

He was just a jerky teen. So Yeah, he's got to

come back to be a badass like a full -grown badass

at some point here. I thought The small little

cameo that we got in the film to for another

Howard the duck sighting. I thought that was

pretty cool He's been released. He's he's not

in the collector's possession anymore He's out

on the town drinking again. Like how were the

duck will do? So I thought that was pretty cool

Not a crank seat, but it's still a spoiler thing

that I wanted to point out and then the cameos

that we got forget was that big rams and semester

saloon, who is that lady that from Oh, I forget

her name. Miley Cyrus, the talking head? Oh yeah,

I didn't catch that. I didn't catch that either.

I missed you guys so much! Yeah. Hold on. Hasselhoff?

Hasselhoff, yep, definitely. And I think that

as far as spoilers go, are we getting any more

spoilers yet? Give me one second, Matt, what

was your take on the end credit scenes? Do they

work? Not work? Was there too many? What do you

think? That dude, there's never too many like

they could do nine of them. I'm here's the thing

I'm the I'm the guy that sits in the theater

until the crowds are done because I like to sit

there and digest it So if you're like, hey, you're

gonna do that thing. Anyway, here's more movie.

Like how am I gonna complain? Other spoiler now

you guys can get more into like specifics, but

Dan I know you had mentioned a couple things

as far as character goes So maybe along the lines

of the villain. Did you want to say more about

that? Well, I like you know how they treated

ego as a planet. So, you know, having the Kurt

Russo kind of living embodiment, there is a great

reference to what he kind of looks like as a

planet that kind of connected to the comics.

And they also made him a celestial, which is

odd because they actually sold Sheldt's celestials

in the other Guardians of the Galaxy film. But

I think what it seems like they're kind of using

that as some sort of kind of title for characters

of this nature. And they did make a shout out

to eternity, which many people don't. Maybe care

about but that's a another kind of embodiment

character of in the comics and it's Really interesting

crazy character and someone who loves the cosmic

universe in Marvel I'm excited for where they're

going like if they could bring out this character

called living tribunal like that'd be amazing

I don't know if they're gonna go that route But

it just has me excited that I actually got a

movie with Eagle Living Planet Which is something

I never thought would happen like it's one of

the craziest characters in all of comics and

he was the main villain in a movie making like

a billion dollars so that's insane to me. And

I think that's too why it's not fair to critique

this film as much as some people have with that

second act or with the part between Ego and Star

-Lord because you gotta understand what they're

doing here. They are making a character that

is a planet somehow work on a live -action big

budget film and like I don't know the comics

and I didn't read them but just the idea when

this was you know, initially rumored that that

was going to be a character or a villain or something

in this film. It's like, how in God's name are

they going to pull that off? Like, are they going

to have some cheesy like planet looking thing

with a face? Which I even thought the way they

did that was not necessarily cheesy looking.

But I just think the way that they were able

to pull off the believability that they were

able to achieve as why he was in human form and

that he's also the planet etc i thought it was

done way better than i would have ever expected

so i was blown away by that amanda thoughts on

ego or you can get into those other spoiler thoughts

that you were talking about a second ago yeah

i was super interested to see how they were going

to pull the whole planet thing off i thought

uh i thought it was a really well done and I

couldn't have thought of that that was pretty

cool also him procreating with like every species

that was freaky um and he always dressed in the

same like 70s not just procreating but then mass

murdering oh that was I actually liked like that

dark twist seeing all those like you know skeletons

down there like that that just solidified how

much of a villain that he was really like in

this and how evil that he was and I thought that

was a really cool touch as far as other spoilers

so Yadu's death and his funeral that That was

hard to watch. I mean, that was sad. The way

he sacrificed himself and how he really broke

it down to Star -Lord and how much he really

meant to him and why he kept him and all that.

I thought there was so much heart in that and

the selflessness there was great. I thought that

was so touching. And when they gave him the Ravager

funeral, that was cool. I was really glad they

did that because at first I was like, man, this

is the most anti -climactic. major death that

I've seen in recent times and then the the Ravager

funeral really kind of helped. pull that emotional

beat together for me so I like that they did

that. There's also some great that we didn't

bring up in the first part but some great emotional

moments and we kind of did in a roundabout way

but between Yondu and Rocket as well Dan mentioned

that is kind of a part as well but I thought

they did hit some pretty good emotional beats

along the way that I wasn't necessarily expecting.

Matt, other spoiler -ific things that you wanted

to bring up? I'm sure there is but I can't really

remember. What were the four credit scenes? There

was teen group. There was Adam warlock There

was The thing with the arrow? Yeah, the broken

arrow. Oh broken arrow. I thought the watches

was in the movie. Oh was it? Yeah, it was both.

It was in the part where they going through All

the different universes or whatever like the

different jumps. That's what you first see him

Yeah, and then he's at the end too. All right.

All right Okay, I can't remember. I just I mean

I liked it though Like I really really liked

Sylvester Stallone and I didn't know it was gonna

be in it until the opening credits Yeah, that

was kind of crazy Dan what did you think about

the Yondu death and things associated with that?

Yeah, I thought that was great. Like I was like

I had mentioned like I thought the way they treated

Yondu was one of the best parts of the film.

It really made him into an interesting character

and developed him and his relationship with Peter

Quill. And that was actually one of the more

effective deaths in the Marvel films. I know

a lot of people like to point to Marvel, but

no one ever dies. And I think death or having

people die doesn't, for me, raise the stakes.

I think that's the easiest way to raise stakes.

I think there's more to a movie than that. But

I think it was an effective way and it made sense.

it was well done yeah all right anybody else

have anything that they want to talk about guardians

of the galaxy volume two related that you haven't

got to yet amanda dan matt amanda you're good

matt i'm good Alright, everybody's good, and

I'm good because I still, every time someone

says Mary Poppins, I still laugh now. So that's

gonna be a forever thing, I think. Alright, so

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