Beyond The Knight
Knight Rider 2000 Review

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you I promised Devon I'd help out until your
car was done. I filled my end of the bargain.
You can't be serious about leaving now. I knew
you could never hack. God only knows what Devon
ever saw in you. Get out of my way. Gladly. You're
just as obsolete as that pile of rust. You wasted
our time and money rebuilding my friend. The
only thing worse is the pathetic effort Devin
put into rebuilding you! When we first met, I
had you pegged as a loser, too. But I couldn't
have been more wrong. I had some of the techies
look kid over. They said he isn't a total write
-off. Maybe you could... Well, maybe you can.
Not alone, I can't. Look, I know Matt can be
a jerk, but he means well. Still... He isn't
you. This is a little hard for me to admit, but
in some ways you're actually superior to me.
You have experience. I don't. I need you. How
about if we swing together one last time in your
backyard? You don't need me and I don't need
you. Oh yes you do. Only somebody hurting really
badly would turn their back right now. Don't
you think I know what I'm walking away from?
Nobody cared about that man more than me. Do
you understand me? Nobody. Then come back and
help us, Michael. Help Devin. I tried. Look what
I got him. He was wrong. One man can't make a
difference. Oh, welcome to Beyond the Night brought
to you by the GCRN I am one of your own studio.
Mike's joining me is the only music man. Hello.
Hey Are you made it to the year 2000 in some
respects? 13 years too late. Yeah, I know right
Yes, that is right. This is episode 33 of beyond
the night. We are back We took a bit of a break
after we did the season for recap of Knight Rider
classic and I just came to realize we've been
doing this podcast for the entire year I know
September 26 2012 is when we started the podcast
Well for those of you who know me well, I am
pretty anal retentive when it comes to anniversary
dates the reason why beyond the night started
september 26 2012 is because you know back in
82 that's when the first episode of the tv show
aired so basically this is our one year anniversary
show yay night rider 2000 i'm just going to cover
in that crappy 2010 shit which has nothing to
do with night rider by the way except the name
that's about it that's about it So what have
you been up to? Not much. I was watching the
movie again, Knight Rider 2000, which I know
we'll get into. The movie's pretty good. I think
William Daniels was great in this, and just a
whole lot of different things. I've found actual
different YouTube things of Knight Rider that
just some of them are downright funny. Like that
new GMC commercial or whatever it is He's he's
actively making fun of himself of the talking
train Yeah, yeah, I thought that's I thought
that was pretty funny. They did that last year
Yeah, oh wow that was a year ago. Holy crap.
I thought it was more recent than that. Oh, that
was last year But I mean, you know, that's the
thing, you know back then back in the 80s. It
was like oh a talking car What's that now? You
know, we have them every day, you know, I'm sure
you can get Actually, I know you can get customizable
GPS Devices that have you know, not your standard
iPhone Siri voice on it. So No, as a matter of
fact, there's a company called Garmin That makes
them and William Daniels is actually in the GPS.
Oh cool. Yeah All right, so That's what's going
on We are back. We are going to be going strong
We may take another break in between the 90s
in the 2008 show. And I'm just going to call
it the 90s show because that's really all we
need to say here. So let's take a quick break.
We'll come back with talk on Knight Rider 2000.
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so Knight Rider 2000 is a 1991 television sequel
movie to the television series Knight Rider.
It is included in the Region 1, Region 2, and
Region 4 versions of the Knight Rider Season
1 box set. The movie served as a pilot for a
proposed new series, but despite high ratings,
the plan was abandoned. In the year 2000... conventional
handguns have been banned. With law enforcement
carrying non -lethal stun pistols, nationwide
budget changes have resulted in the adoption
of cryonic suspension over standard incarceration
for convicted criminals. Following the assassination
of a mayor in Seattle, his replacement demands
a solution and has found the form of Knight 4000,
a car that will become the next generation of
the Knight Industries supercar kit. The theme
song at Knight Rider 2000 is by Dan Hammer and
was released on his 1994 album Drive. Alright,
so this came out in 91. There's another movie
that came out in 94 starring Sylvester Stallone
and Wesley Snipes. Demolition Man is a copycat
of Knight Rider 2000. No, it's not. Yes, it do.
Are you serious? Yes, it is. I've watched it,
but I didn't think it was a copy of Knight Rider
2000. Alright, Knight Rider 2000. The villain
gets frozen and put into cryostasis. Yeah, alright.
They then wake him up and he escapes and whatever
else. In Demolition Man, both... Wesley Snipes'
character, Simon, and John Spartan, Stallone's
character, both get cryo -freezed. and wake up
in the 23rd or whatever it is, Futuristic City,
they now have non -lethal weapons in both, I
swear to God, Demolition Man. Oh, that's funny.
It is exact, the only difference is there's no,
obviously Kit Carr, any kind of Knight Rider
things in Demolition Man, but I swear they're
the exact same film. Like, the basic premise
of both of them are the exact same. That's great.
so funny um I actually is that why you were laughing
off air yeah oh I wonder why yeah no the um I
didn't get to see this at you know 91 I was 11
years old I'm we missed it back then you know
kids today don't know what a VCR is and videotape
and recording video and They know all the digital
stuff that you know in this generation. I didn't
even know it existed in 91 I didn't see it until
94 See, I didn't see it until like 93 94 something
like it's it's like 99 honestly cuz I never I
knew of it, but I never I never caught on to
it until Don't even think it was 99. I think
it was I'm gonna caught it on if they if they
were aired it on TV I'm gonna caught it but like
when I really saw it was when I got that first
season box set But yeah, no, I you know, my mom
said, you know back then she was like, oh, yeah
There was a Knight Rider film on the other night.
We forgot to record. I'm like really seriously
because you got to think this is 91 this is Five
years removed from the final episode, albeit
Voodoo Night, the dumbest episode ever. This
is five years removed and what's going on? Before
this, the only other thing I had seen Hoff in
was Nick Fury, Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D. So
I was like, ooh, cool. This is awesome. And so
the basic plot is a criminal escapes. He wants
to basically take over the city, take over the
world. And, you know, you got to go back to,
you know, 10 years ago and, and revive Michael
Knight and, and, and get him to do his thing,
what he used to do. And I find it very interesting
how over the course of the original series in
this how David Hasselhoff had aged Because I
didn't mention this when we were doing the season
four reviews I don't think but they gave him
either they did it to him for production or he
did it to himself But he had a severe hair like
he didn't have afro hair in season four. He had
a severe slick back Haircut in a lot of the episode.
I think that might have been himself Oh, I'm
sure. I don't think he would have done that for
for the production. But but, you know, I enjoy
the film. It's, you know, a good beginning, middle
and it brings up all the old continuity. And
I remember seeing something from the producers
that they want. You know, I think everybody at
the time was like, but where's Bonnie? Where's
RC3? Where's all this stuff? April. Yeah. Yeah.
But they had said that they wanted the film to
be just Devin and Michael and the relationship
between the two of them And that's really what
it is And it's it's it's an awesome film. I I
find it absolutely hilarious that they are That
kit ends up in a 57 Everything about the movie
is great The villains are great. Just how surprisingly
things happen is great Um, Russ Maddock can go
jump off a bridge for all I care. I didn't like
that guy that much. Um, but um, and I could've
sworn I've seen that actor somewhere else. What
else has he done? He was in Babylon 5. He was
in Melrose Place. Um, I swear I've seen him in
other things. Oh, he was in Stargate SG -1, so
I like him. Oh, I know where I've seen him and
gone in 60 seconds. That's where I saw him Yeah,
oh yeah, that's right Detective Mayhew and gone
in 60 seconds, okay But no overall, you know
Knight Rider 2000 great movie. I I like the Because
it's the quote -unquote future that they've Adopted
putting chips in people's heads Sean McCormick.
Yep. And Kit. Yeah. Battle of the sexes. Sitting
in a tree. Battle of the sexes. A computerized
car going against a human who has one of the
chips in her brain. Yep. I you know it's like
wow and the fact that kit shows emotion literal
literally gets pissed off yeah you know that's
just that's just kind of cool it is the interesting
thing going back and watching this specifically
to some of the actors is Thomas Watson, this
is played by Mitch Pileggi. I did not know that
at the time. I knew I had seen him somewhere
before, but I didn't know it at the time who
he was. And then I had recently, last year, the
new Dallas revival show came on and he is one
of the villains in Dallas. Oh, what else? What
else is interesting about this one? Scotty! Captain
Scott from Star Trek has a cameo. I thought that
was hilarious. Hey, James Doohan! Do hand makes
a cameo appearance as an innocent bystander that
kit mistakes for a criminal stealing money from
an ATM Kit stuns the suspect and the man collapses
when Michael and Matic pick up the man to arrest
him They find mr. Dohan delirious from being
stunned and mumbling various lines from his role
of Scotty on Star Trek I Thought that was really
cool. That was awesome. It was great Yeah kit.
It's Scotty who? Star Trek you idiot Yeah, how
does how does kit not know about Star Trek? Seriously,
yeah, he knows about Michael Jackson, but he
doesn't know about Star Trek great But now like
I said that This film has, you know, it has the
perfect setup, beginning, middle, and end, and,
you know, sure, I, you know, now that I've seen
both this and Demolition Man almost back to back
with each other, it's like, wow, the plots are
so similar, but, I mean, I really enjoy this
movie. I think it's a testament to Devin and
Michael's relationship. I think it's really interesting
how they do that. It's really sad that Devin
dies in this movie. Yeah, I was kind of shocked
that they did that, but... I'm not sure. Was
he not doing that well back in 91? He was all
right. I don't know what else he had done. We
really hadn't seen him in anything else throughout
the 90s that I know of. I've looked at his Wikipedia
article. I'm sure he's done some other stuff
besides Knight Rider. You know the Knight Rider
in Knight Rider 2000, and I know he was in Before
he died I did see him in Baywatch nights, so
I know he did that role. Yeah, he didn't pass
away until 97 right, but Baywatch Baywatch nights
was on in 97, but they obviously would have recorded
that weight You know before his death, but he
played opposite David as a villain and I was
like wow We'll see the reason why they probably
put him in as a villain is because one of his
other Leading film roles was Malcolm Rodney in
our man Flint from 1996 not 1990s. I'm sorry
1966 right, right So that's probably what that
was a nod to but yeah, no, I mean that was that
was why just that that was just senseless Honestly,
it was I get it was, you know a plot device,
but that was just no don't kill Devin Not in
that way. Anyway, that was just wrong Just just
wrong I also like the fact that Devin actually
got pissed at Matic because Matic was very very
Conceited he was very very just I Think he liked
getting under people's skin Yeah, and the fact
that you see you know the fact that you hear
as long as I'm the controlling partner We do
things my way. Is that clear and it's like drill
sergeant 101 Yeah Yeah, and Maddox like yeah
Because what it was is and you know if anyone
has seen if everyone remembers the movie He gets
Michael Michael agrees to come back but only
under one condition and that is that he wants
kit but in the original trans am when they get
there they see that the transit that they see
that the trans ams been dismantled and You know
everything else and you know, there's there's
still you know They they they're in the garage.
I guess that's a garage in there. Yeah, they're
in the garage in there and they and You know
Michael's like you actually let this guy do this
and it's like, you know This guy happens to be
your new boss. Mr. Knight and I'd watch that
added and I'm like, okay Yeah, Russ Maddock is
he's not a very likable character not even till
the end of the movie The garage I think even
though I believe it was under the night industries
offices. I believe it was meant to Be similar
to the original garage where Michael found kit
in night of the it's mental not necessarily Be
a copy of it, but it's meant to have that similar
feel yeah as far as the design of the garage
and everything else that that eventually the
4000 would be in and The 4000 it's alright You
know I That's why I asked you that's why I asked
you what I asked you and the season for recap,
but What when I said, you know when we were talking
about? Merging the two, you know Mike father
and son together When you were talking about
having You know Michael Michael Knight senior
and Michael Knight jr. Working together and I
said, well, where would the night 4 ,000 fit
and you said no that wouldn't work because you
have you have the night industries 2 ,000 you
have the night industries 3 ,000 yeah, and the
4 ,000 just wouldn't work because if you look
at the the 2 ,000 and the 3000 side by side they're
okay one's a trans am one's a mustang but they're
they're more similar to each other than what
the damn 4000 was made out of which let me see
here, production notes. The Night Rider 2000's
film, okay. The studio was unable to use the
real Pontiac Banshee 4 concept car for the movie,
so instead it hired Jay Orberg of Star Cars Incorporated
to customize a 1991 Dodge Stealth for the Knight
4000. The custom car can also be seen, albeit
briefly, as the stolen supercar in Chips 99.
and has a future police vehicle in power rangers
time force hahaha night rider and power rangers
have a team up oh god no but yeah no i know it
just that that design of that car it just doesn't
It doesn't really say night rider. Okay, the
front grill look, you know looking at it again
the front does but the the whole back and it
looks like it's You know being hopped up on Hydraulics
honestly, it does it just well at least they
kept the scanner light in front, you know, they
kept the they kept that I kind of missed the
noise that it would make though. They it didn't
It didn't have the little Scanner nose the whoosh
whoosh noise anymore. They were just kind of
there The other thing that I'm really kind of
disappointed about was that they didn't really
come to Glenn Larson for any inspirational ideas
Since this was since Knight Rider was his creation
Yeah, and you know, I kind of think that They
kind of they should have at least come to Glenn
Yeah, they should have but you know, who knows
At least they kept the main elements there there
even times where I heard the old theme the old
instrumentals and stuff so It's there in spirit,
but it yeah as far as the car design they they
should have definitely Talked to Glen or done
done something cuz yeah, no the 4000 really the
original theme was in there off to listen again
Not like the whole thing When it When Devin's
RNA is being read Yeah, there's a brief like
ever so brief mixture between the old theme and
the gin -hammer theme It's very like ever so
brief. It's not it's not there in its full entirety,
but it's still It's still there. Yeah What's
nice about that? I mean that you're not not the
fact that Devin is dying But you know cuz that
was really sad when they killed him off It was
very sad when they killed him off, but you actually
get to see without the original score of Stu
Phillips in there Being heard but you see Will
tonight, you know Richard bass heart, you know
one man can make a difference and you see the
car being driven You know And the way he dies
off is just really sad. You know? Yeah, it is.
It very much is. Oh, don't ever get Michael so
pissed off that he'll make you bleed. Yeah. Yeah,
pretty much, yeah. The thing is, it's like, if,
like... Again, this would, you know... Knight
Rider, the series, would have made more sense
if... Because they kind of tie back, but they
don't really mention it, but they they're like,
oh I left the foundation ten years ago Well,
if Stevie hadn't had died He still would have
been there probably he wouldn't have been there
but that's the that's why I say scent of roses
should have been the series finale is because
He went back And you come to this and you can
think of, oh, well, maybe he didn't go back.
Even though in Scent of Roses, it shows him going
back right away. But let's say he didn't. Let's
say Stevie didn't die that, you know, that day.
That maybe could be where he was, you know, you
know, for the 10 years or whatever the hell.
But it's just one of those things where it's
producers and Creators and whatever network execs
need to be mindful of this kind of stuff and
they really are today because television today
has created a whole different way than it was
30 years ago, but Just going back and just looking
at it again. It's like why would you put that
crappy episode of your series finale? Dumb anyway,
um with Knight Rider 2000. I enjoyed it. I liked
it. I loved it It was a I love kids a TV before
he gets in the car. I love kid as a portable
TV That was funny Oh The in the 57 Chevy no before
he was in the Chevy he was in he was on the he
was on the on the seat And then like a portable
TV thing When they first activate him you mean
when they first act. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And you
see is you see a scanner going back and forth
and what I also like the fact is that Michael
and kit are taking jabs at each other Even though
time has changed significantly You're dating
yourself buddy boy Pac -man's in the Smithsonian
now Probably an exhibit or two away from you
and it's you know, it's actually You know, it's
actually you know to see Devin smile with that
episode in that not in an episode But in that
in that scene, you know, it's kind of like kit
and Michael are kind of jabbing each other You
know kits been deactivated for ten years Michael's
been out of commission for ten years, you know,
so they get him activated and it's like now that's
just wonderful and they both look like whoa How'd
that happen? Yeah, you know exactly exactly it
was great Yeah, it was absolutely awesome and
any Knight Rider fan who hasn't seen Knight Rider
2000 go see it or go find it Go get the DVD set.
It's on the big box that it's also on the single
season set of season one Absolutely amazing You
know, for Knight Rider fans like us, it was a
damn good movie. They're really, you know...
There weren't any bad parts, per se? No, not
really. I mean, it was... it was beginning, middle,
end. It was, you know, it told a story. It told
a decent story, and it showed you how Michael
Knight was gonna stop the bad guy, and that one
man can make a difference. You know what was
interesting, though, is that, you know, I know
Shawn McCormick. She was a police officer, and...
Things like that, you know, I know she was she
wasn't really trying to show Michael up It wasn't
a battle of the sexes. It was a matter of they
both had different styles Well, she works. Well,
no, wait a minute with a problem with her is
hang on she was working for the police force
he was I mean he he went back to the foundation
he went back to the he went back to the foundation
and You know You know, he's like, you know, you've
got an attitude that won't fly around here at
all. We all work together You know, we it won't
fly We walk we all work together or not at all
and just like correct me from wrong But you're
the one who left the foundation ten years ago
to run an unprofitable bass charter It seems
like you get along with fish better than you
do with people Yeah, and the funny thing is he's
like I know some fish that are that have better
attitudes than you and then they get in the car
and you hear kit and he's like Michael kindly
tell this obnoxious person to remove her hands
from my wheel Yes, but the thing is we don't
actually that that would be the only downfall
of the movie I think we don't actually get to
see what other than those little flashbacks what
Shawn's personality was Before she had kit implanted
in her No, we don't get to see that see that
see that see that's the thing see Sean to me
is Kit 3 .0, you know kit being himself and This
is another part of him that is there and it's
she's basically It's basically if kid actually
was a human and had had a child is the way I
look at it It's more kids personality than whatever
her own personality might have been right and
that's why she clashes with Michael is because
it's part of kit inside of her It's yeah, it's
kind of freaky when you're really thinking. Yeah,
it's true But the thing I the other the one of
the scenes I did like was in this was after Devon's
death and after Michael hits Maddox pretty hard
in his mouth. Yeah But I could understand why
I did it it was the fact that look I lost it
I just lost a good friend Yeah, you know and
and and I lost a good friend and I don't have
anything to live for anymore. That's what that's
what he felt like You know, and he was like,
you know, he was wrong, you know Devon was wrong
One man can't make a difference and I could swear
I thought he was gonna cry in that scene Because
it was just I mean, I know he was acting but
it was so emotional for him and you know Sean
was saying look I thought I thought I knew everything
and You know, but I don't I don't have the same
experience as you do my my experience is law
enforcement. That's it You've got one up on me
because Michael was a police officer before he
was shot Michael, you know, he was Michael long
and then he was Michael might he was reborn and
So, you know now he's basically he he has more
experience than Shawn does Yeah, but the end
and you know, then he comes back And he says,
you know, well, you know, and they're Sean and
Michael are talking and he's like, well you had
something to do with it and what I mean is you
convinced me to come back Yeah, and you know
What I really kind of liked was, you know, you
see Russ Maddock and he's walking into the garage
and This was near the end of the movie He's like,
what the hell are you doing? And he stands up
David stands up and he stands back and the car
starts and he's like, oh my god You didn't it
kids like I'm afraid he did mr. Maddock and I
must say that this body fits me like a glove
and I'm like damn Yeah, yeah, it was kind of
awesome there to see that. Yeah, it was very
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We are back, and for me, um... Knight Rider 2000
gets a perfect five out of five stars. It's our
five out of five kit cars it it just It has everything
and for those of us who are Knight Rider enthusiasts
it has the you know the legacy behind it and
for those of us who like Prequels to demolition
man. It has that behind it, too It gets a five
out of five kit cars for me. Perfect story beginning
middle and end there is no deviating from the
story there is no subplot yeah there is no villain
of the week no villain of the week no um no multiple
you know like you said subplot there's no like
multiple plots going on well there is but it's
basically two plots it's basically what's going
on with Matic and and the night industries people
and then there's Watts and what and what he's
doing is as the villain and it's it's just right
But it's but it's one plot just right intertwined
into one So it just like you know, like we said
it has it's a good storyline. I really wish you
know, and I know he it lists it doesn't listed
in the credits but um... you know it does you
know william daniels is part of the production
to you know part of it he just is not credited
in the credits so you guys look for william daniels
in the credits you're not gonna see his name
there yeah but most people know that already
yeah i mean it's you know he he wasn't credited
on the actual tv show either no he wasn't uh...
but he uh... He actually agreed to do the original
show. He just didn't want his name appearing
in the credits, right? I was the only difference
so I mean he got you know that this this movie
is great if you guys have not seen it like TFG
says Or has said go get the DVD box set Whether
it's just the sin a single season or if you get
the entire box set that has all four seasons
in it You will not be disappointed in the movie
at all It kind of does remind you of Night of
the Phoenix. The only difference between Night
of the Phoenix and this is, Knight Rider 2000
is the reboot of KIT, Knight Industries 2000,
and Night of the Phoenix was the beginning of
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