The TeleCast
Beakman’s World

About this Episode
Hey, Don, I'm hungry. Me too. Let's call Luigi's
and order a pizza. What kind do you want? How
about a large anchovy pizza? Perfect. I'll have
them hold the dough, hold the sauce, and hold
the cheese. Perfect. How long before it's here?
Don't you remember? Last time it took 45 years,
Herb. Oh. But if they're one minute late, we
get it free. Yeah, well, while we're waiting,
let's catch a slice of Beekman. Flip him on.
Yeah, and he comes with extra toppings. The hummingbird
lays the world's smallest bird egg, smaller than
this jelly bean. Hey, hey, hey, let me out of
here. Sorry. I'm Beacon, and you've just broken
into Beacon's world. It's time for the Telecast,
brought to you by the Geekcast Radio Network.
Optimus Solo Hello, sir. How you doing? Pretty
good. And today the three of us are going to
be talking about our second educational show.
Last time we talked about Bill Nye the Science
Guy, and we actually received our first telecast
voicemail in response to that episode. So before
we move on to our episode today, I'm going to
give everyone a chance to hear that message,
which ironically is from our other host, Control
Freak Mike. Or no, it's TFG1 Mike. I'm sorry,
I messed up his name. But he's a control freak.
We all know this. So we're going to listen to
that voicemail real quick, and we will be right
back as soon as that gets done playing. This
is TFG and Mike from the Geekcast Radio Network
giving the Telecast its first voicemail. Yes,
I know when Kevin listens to this, he's going
to be laughing his ass off because of my quote
-unquote control issues. Just wanted to give
you guys a great... Shout out for episode 6,
Bill Nye the Science Guy. I always remembered
seeing Bill Nye and Beakman's World back to back.
Not sure which was in front of the other. I so
wasn't a science kid. But I agree with everything
you guys have said about the fact that it is
a great educational program. I was more of a
history buff, honestly. I was more of, you know,
where in the world is Carmen Sandiego type, you
know, learning about geography and stuff like
that. I had no interest in science. No interest.
I was history and writing and English and all
that stuff. Kevin, iTunes, hello. Bill Nye the
Science Guy is in iTunes, and it's probably better
quality than YouTube. However, there is a drawback.
Bill Nye the Science Guy Volume 1 has 14 episodes,
and the cost is $22 .99. Bill Nye the Science
Guy Volume 2 has 17 episodes. And the cost is
$27 .99. So there is a drawback. A huge drawback.
Very few episodes at a very high cost. I'm not
sure why the US iTunes Store charges that much
for only 17 and 14 episodes. I'm not sure at
all. But at least... If someone is a fan of Bill
Nye or someone really wants it that bad and wants
good quality, at least you can get it in iTunes.
Keep up the good work. This is TFG and Mike signing
off. All right, thank you, TFG1 Mike, for our
very first telecast voicemail, and thank you
for giving us the information about iTunes as
far as the availability of Bill Nye the Science
Guy. Unfortunately, based on what you said, it
looks like iTunes is not a very good option since
it sounds like it's pretty darn expensive for
only a few episodes, and I'll try not to forget
the iTunes information from here on out. But
other than that, thank you for your kind words
about the telecast and for your thoughts on Bill
Nye the Science Guy, and hopefully everybody
else out there. They want their voice heard on
the telecast, can start calling into the voicemail
line and leaving their own voicemail messages
for future episodes. But with that, we will shut
the book on the Bill Nye episode and transition
into today's episode in which we will be talking
about. Hello. Discover this. I'm Beatman and
you've just broken into Beatman's world. That's
right, folks. We are talking about Beekman's
World. Before we get too far into our discussion,
here's a little background information for the
show. Beekman's World debuted in 1992, one year
before Bill Nye the Science Guy, actually, and
it lasted until 1997. It was shown on CBS here
in the United States, and it lasted for four
seasons and 91 episodes. And for those of you
who maybe only watched Bill Nye the Science Guy,
Beekman was an eccentric scientist. who performed
comical experiments and demonstrations in response
to viewer mail to illustrate various scientific
concepts, and he was accompanied by some other
people, which we'll get to in a minute. But before
we do that, what do you remember about Beekman's
World, JT? I remember this being one of the first
shows that I discovered on an American network,
because, like I said, Beekman was one of my friends
on that top ten list we did for the supplemental
episode. Right, and if you haven't listened to
that episode, go do it. Yes, for shame. For shame.
Anyway, no, I just remember watching the show
and loving it, and I'm not saying I didn't like
Bill Nye, but Beekman, I think, was just a little
more entertaining, a little more colorful. He's
almost like a live -action cartoon, and that's
really what grabbed me about the show. Like,
it was, you know, there was lights, there was
color, there was humor. but there's also intelligence,
and that sort of thing just hooked me more than
Bill Nye did. Yeah, I actually agree with you
on that one. For me, and I know Steve might have
a different opinion, and our other host on Bill
Nye, Tara, might have another opinion, but I
think it's kind of since they were both playing
basically at the same time and mainly for the
same set of years, I think some people were more
on the Bill Nye camp and some people were more
on the Beekman's camp. Obviously, there might
have been people that liked both of them. But
I was a little bit more drawn to Beekman. I don't
know if I just felt like it was a little bit
more fast -paced or if it was because of some
of the characters they had or maybe the personalities.
But I agree with you that it hooked me a little
bit more. Yeah, no, like I said, I think it's
just the way the science was presented. I mean,
Bill Nye, a lot of people like Bill Nye because
he got you interested in the science. But I think
it's something about it being kind of like the
way it was presented, almost like a cartoon.
It just, my mind retained more of it in that
way. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't, maybe it wasn't
as focused as Bill Nye because they jumped all
over into different topics depending on the viewer
mail, the way it was set up. So it was kind of
a little more sporadic and all over the place.
But, you know, I agree with you for the most
part. What about you, Steve? What do you remember
about Beakman's or how do you kind of compare
the two? No, I like both of them, but in different
ways. I like Bill Nye more so for the... It's
more of a straightforward, I mean, it's got comedy
in it, but it's more of a serious form of it
than what Beakman's is. Like, Beakman's has the
corny jokes that are far worse than Bill Nye.
The fart jokes and stuff like that. Yeah, the
fart jokes, but I mean, it's appealing to a younger
audience than what Bill Nye would be. Bill Nye
is like the next notch up. That's true. Where
this would be the next notch down, but it's still
suitable for all the ages. and you have all these
different personalities throughout the show,
whether it's Beekman playing all of them or if
it's his sidekicks. It was just interesting to
see how differently the show was put together.
It seemed more so the late 80s, early 90s vibe
to it than how Bill Nye was portrayed. Yeah,
yeah, it definitely fit more into that time,
like into that era. Like if you were to watch
a Beakman's World episode and then try to get,
if you didn't know and you tried to like guess
when it came from, I think you'd have better
luck than if you tried to guess when Bill Nye
was on. Just because it is, it does have, it
has that like earnest feel, like earnest, you
know, hey Vern, it's earnest feel. It has that
Pee Wee Herman type feel where it's just kind
of this controlled chaos. And I think that was
kind of, you know, typical for that 92 to 97
era. And it was a nice factor that they included
in it. And they even pulled something kind of
like how the Muppets would do, where they'd have
the two guys sitting in the balcony making fun
of the show. They had the penguins sitting in
the Arctic watching the television making fun
of the show. Puppet penguins. So that in itself
was hilarious to me. I forgot all about the penguins
until I went to go watch an episode on YouTube,
and I was like, yes! I remember these things.
To begin with, I didn't know if I was going to
remember anything from the show. And as I watched
it, I was like, okay, yes, I did sit here and
watch this a lot. Yeah, I had the exact same
experience, actually, because I knew that I knew
more about Beekman's World than Bill Nye. I knew
I watched it more as a kid. But when I sat down
to actually watch the shows in preparation for
the episode, I was like, I'm not sure how much
I'm going to remember. I know I watched it more,
but I don't know if I could tell you much about
it. And as soon as I started watching it, all
of a sudden it was like I was exactly where I
was when I was watching it originally, and everything
was like, oh, they're going to do this, and I
remember this part, and like you said, the penguins,
and just kind of some of the different little
skits they did, like some that we'll talk about
a little bit later. All of it started making
sense and bringing back those memories pretty
clear. Yeah, no, I think one of the main selling
points for me was, again, with the whole kind
of concept, aspect of the show. It's like when
he did a demonstration, you laugh, but it also
grabbed your attention, so you're really paying
attention to what he's saying and you understand
it better. It's kind of like when you work in
a practical program in school. You can study
theory all you want, but until you actually see
it done or you do it yourself, you don't truly
get it in your head. And this one was very fast
-paced, so it didn't ever seem boring. Yeah.
No, it kept jumping subject to subject, so you
never actually sat there too long in one. Basically,
it filled the need for kids that age having a
low attention span. Yeah, that's true. And also,
if they were talking about some topic that you
weren't as interested in, it wasn't like you
were going to suffer through it because you knew
it wasn't going to last that long and they'd
be on to a new topic soon. So like if they're
talking about like fossils and you don't care
about fossils, that's right. They're going to
be talking about how a car works in a few minutes.
So, well, yeah, no, I think that's something,
I think that's the main difference for me between
Beekman and Bill Nye is Bill Nye really went
in, he went into like every detail of a certain
experiment or a scientific principle. Whereas
with Beekman, it's basically like one of the
clips I was watching, like a guy says, like,
how much does air weigh? And you know, it's,
it's like, Five minutes on explaining how gases
work and gas density, and then you go from that
to the next thing, and it's a quick flash. Yeah.
I think the reason it sticks more is those quick
bits like that, they stick in the subconscious
more than anything. Well, and I think, too, it
had to do a little bit to do with the actual
two individuals we're talking about, which kind
of leads us into a discussion of some of the
who's who of Beekman's world, because with Beekman,
he's not a scientist. Whereas Bill Nye is a man
of science who has dedicated his life to educational
endeavors, whereas Beekman is an entertainer.
He is a, you know, a comedian. He's a puppeteer.
You know, he is an entertainer, not a someone
who, you know, has been dedicated to education.
So with Beekman's world, he is more playing a
part. And, you know, his forte is entertaining
you as he does it, whereas Bill Nye's forte was
teaching you as he does it. So I think that had
a big deal with what you were just saying as
far as how one would go into more detail and
one would be trying to make it more fun. Yeah,
no, that's pretty much what I was getting at.
Yeah, and just so for the record, Beekman was
played by a man named Paul Zaloom. And Beekman
obviously was the main scientist on the show.
He also played a whole... huge cast of different
characters by doing the little Superman routine
where he runs off stage or runs into a phone
booth and changes outfits real quick and comes
back as somebody else. But he's obviously the
main character. What were you guys' opinions
just on Beakman himself? I loved him. I thought,
like I said, he's... A mad scientist, more or
less. It's just something about the way the character
was. He sounded more like some dude on a street
corner in New York City with the accent and the
way he talked about things. He had a little bit
of Rodney Dangerfield in his... He almost sounded
like... I don't know if anyone else would ever
pick up on this, but to me, he almost sounded
like the same guy that does the voice for Elf.
He's not. He had that kind of accent that...
Just the way he spoke, he had the same sort of
tweaks and whatnot. Right, because I was watching
it today and the other day, and I'm like, who
does he sound like? He sounds so familiar. And
finally, I'm like, I think it's Alf. I think
he sounds like Alf. And I'm not trying to rip
on Bill Nye at all because I know Bill Nye was
a great show and I know a lot of people like
Bill Nye. But for me, the main selling point
in Beakman over Bill Nye was the actual character
of Beakman. And I could, for some reason, I attached
more to Beakman than I did with Bill Nye. I don't
know why that was exactly. What was your opinion
on just the Beakman character, Steve? I, too,
have to agree that I did get the Mad Scientist
vibe from him, which I loved. And, yeah, you
could definitely hear the accent. It was more
like, you know, kind of like a New York accent
in a sense. So I definitely liked that. But at
the same time, he was kind of wacky, crazy. It
was like a mix between Bill Nye and, like, Pee
Wee Herman all thrown in there. Yeah, I agree.
It was like either Bill Nye slash Pee Wee or
Bill Nye slash, like, Hey Vern. You know, I always
say Hey Vern instead of his name. But, yeah,
to me it was kind of like that wacky combination,
like part educational, part, like, whack job
um control chaos yeah control chaos is the theme
of this show before we get into some of the other
characters i want to real quick take a second
to talk about his main uh henchman which was
the lab rat called lester who was played by uh
mark ritz um what did you guys feel about the
man in the rat suit uh jt well i remember when
when i saw like the first episode uh i found
it on I think it was on YouTube or one of the
video sites. Like, the first episode, he was
a puppet. Like, he was a rat puppet, and I wish
that would have... Like, I like the guy in the
rat suit, but I just like the puppet better.
I don't remember the puppet. No, it was, like,
the one episode. It was, like, the pilot episode,
and then it was, like, just this dude in a suit.
But I thought it would have been cool if, like,
the whole show would have been just Beakman's
the only human, and you got the puppet sidekicks.
But no, it's... You know, Lester was he's like
one of those classic sidekicks that he's always
he's got a smart mouth. He's dumber than a post.
You can't help but kind of like the guy. Yeah.
What do you think about Lester, Steve? I got
almost a rat trap vibe. Yeah, you kind of had
that. The voice, like if it were a little bit
higher pitched, I would have almost believed
it was rat trap. That is excellent. I mean, I
was sitting there and I'm like, huh? I'm like,
why is Rat Trap, you know? And then I'm like,
okay, yeah. He had that kind of Bronx, Brooklyn
accent. So, I mean, you could definitely get
the New York vibe from all the characters. But
it was also kind of funny because he had the
typical fat rat, cheese, you know, type of just
rodent. So, I mean, it was a nice combination
that they had going there that made you love
him, yet not really like him at the same time.
Yeah, you're somewhat repulsed by him, but he
makes you laugh. So it's like, yeah, you're fine
because you make me laugh. I'm good with that.
Whoever knew Beakman and Rattrap would educate
all of us. But I thought it was funny that the
way they... didn't try to disguise that it was
a guy in a rat suit. Like there'd be multiple
times where people would ask him like, what are
you supposed to be? He's like, I'm a guy in a
rat suit. Like he would just come out right out
there and be like, yeah, that's what I am. I'm
a guy in a rat suit. Like my agent sucks or something
like that. And you know, I'm in a rat suit. He
wasn't like, I am a rat or I'm playing this part
or I'm this character. He's like, I'm a guy in
a rat suit. My life sucks. I did not realize
that the guy was as old as he was in that rat
suit. I want to say he was in his upper 40s,
maybe low 50, 51, 48, somewhere in there, the
guy that was playing Lester. I always thought
he was much younger than that. Really? Yeah,
but we'll get more into that in a little bit.
I want to talk a little bit about the female
assistants. I was not aware before we did this
show that there was multiple female assistants.
Because when I remember watching the show as
a kid, the only assistant I remember is Josie,
who was played by Alana Ubach. I don't know if
I'm saying that name right, but she does a lot
of voice acting nowadays. But that's the only
person I ever remember being on the show. Now,
watching the YouTube videos, I see this Phoebe,
who was played by Santa Moses, and that there
was also, according to the information, Liza
or Aliza, played by Aliza Schneider. I don't
remember ever seeing those two as a kid. And
just seeing Phoebe in the YouTube videos, I'm
glad I don't remember her as a kid because she
was kind of annoying to me. I don't know. Do
you guys remember seeing different assistants,
or do you guys just remember one of them? I remember
all three of them. Okay. Which one was your favorite
then? Phoebe. Oh, really? See, I thought she
was annoying. I was the annoying kid growing
up, so I kind of gravitated to my own people.
But no, I think Alana and Aliza, their characters
were both really good, and they had that peppy
kind of energy. If you watch the episodes, you
can see the way Beakman, when they come in and
they start doing their spiel, Beakman kind of
just looks at them out of the corner of his eyes
like, just shut up. But Phoebe, she had just
a little bit more energy, I think, than the others.
I think she just had a lot more kind of comedic
timing and skill with the bits. I can see that
as far as the timing and everything. I think
what bugs me about Phoebe is the fact that she
had more energy, and to me, you almost needed
a character that was a little more calm in that
role, just for my personal preferences, because
you have Beekman, who's kind of crazy, and you
have Lester, who's kind of this retarded guy,
and I kind of needed that grounded, more down
-to -earth a little bit. Not totally, but a little
bit. And that's why I kind of like Josie a little
bit better. But I can see Phoebe definitely had
more energy and she probably was the better as
far as intermingling with the comedic bits as
far as with Mark Ritz and Paul Zaloom. Steve,
do you remember different assistants? Honestly,
no. I only remember the original. And that's
it. Which I believe Josie is the original. That's
what I believe as well. I don't remember anybody
else other than her. I've never seen this Liza
or Liza in an episode. Do you remember what she
was like, JT? She was just like the energetic
assistant, real happy and peppy and all that.
I didn't see any clips with her on YouTube, but
I just remember having that kind of standard...
energetic sidekick thing. Not maybe as much as
Alana or Senta had, but she still had a presence
there. Yeah. I mean, they all kind of played
the same role. I couldn't find any information
as to why they switched them so often. But I
would be interested to see if it was the actors
choosing not to come back or if they were intentionally
wanting to switch it up so that they had different
people. I'd kind of be interested to know a little
behind the scenes on that, but I couldn't find
anything as far as online. There's not a ton
of information about the show out there. The
only other characters we kind of touched on already,
but we'll just touch on real quickly again, which
is the Statler and Waldorf puppet penguins. Like
I said, I did not remember that they were even
a part of this show until I was watching the
YouTube clips, but they're absolutely hilarious.
They would use them in multiple ways. Sometimes
they would use them mid -skit where they'd be
talking about something and they would just go
to them and have a quick commentary and come
right back. Sometimes they used them at the beginning
or end of shows or before and after commercial
breaks. I just thought they used them really
well. I think it's hilarious that they just have
these two random penguins at the North Pole who
have a TV set up on the ice or the snow and they're
watching. you know, they're watching Beakman's
world, but as much as they would make fun of
things or, or kind of be sarcastic, they would
always say, you know, don't turn the channel
or make sure you're, you know, you're make sure
we're just on Beakman's, you know, or whatever.
Um, what did you guys think of that? It was the
magic of the puppets. I mean, really? Yeah. So
you, you like the puppets just as much as Steve
and I? Oh yeah. No, dude, I got nothing but love
for puppets. Looking up, doing a little research
for the show tonight, I didn't actually, until
today, I never looked at the Wikipedia article
on the show, and you'd think that would have
been the first thing. But I did not know that
they were, I knew their names were Don and Herb.
I actually remembered that, but I didn't know
that they were named for the guy that played,
starred as Mr. Wizard. Yeah. Yeah, and that is
awesome. I think that they paid homage to the
original mad scientist, as far as I'm concerned,
which is Mr. Wizard, who is actually going to
be the topic of the next episode of the telecast.
But I think that's very cool that they named
him after him. So the one puppet was named Don,
and he was voiced by Bert Bertis, and the other
one was Herb, and he was voiced by Alan Barsman.
I'm not familiar with those two individuals,
but like you said, I think the naming of it was
pretty cool. And Steve, you're a big fan of the
puppets too, right? Oh, yeah. Puppets are great.
And I did not know that there was any puppets
in this show. I thought it was just guys in full
body costumes. Do either one of you have any
more thoughts on any of the characters that we've
talked about, or maybe if I missed any? I know
I didn't talk about Beakman's mom or a few other
characters, but anything else, JT, you want to
say on characters? Yeah, actually, you said Paul
Zaloon did a couple different characters, like
Professor I Am Boring. Yes. I loved the fact
that Zalim played all these different characters
that you know it's him. I thought it was really
cool that he made that effort to become all these
different people. I love Beak Mom, Beakman's
mother, because that's the lady that played Edith
on the Archie Bunker show back in the day. The
first time I saw Beak Mom, I looked at my dad,
isn't that Archie Bunker's wife? It's like, you
watch too much television. Well, she fit that
role perfectly, too. She was just as crazy and
energetic as everybody else. She wouldn't be
one of my favorite characters in this or anything,
but I thought she was a pretty nice touch to
it. I was going to say, and I just love the name
Beak Mom. It's not Mrs. Beakman or anything like
that. It's Beak Mom. What about you, Steve? Any
other characters you wanted to mention, or have
we covered all of them? I think I pretty much
covered all of them. I mean, those are pretty
much the only three besides the penguins that
actually stood out to me in the show. Yeah. Do
you have a favorite, whether it was the female
assistant, Lester, Beekman, or the penguins?
Which people did you like when they were on the
air the most? I would have to say Beekman. Yeah.
And for some reason, I always thought that Josie
was hilarious. because she was always trying
to get the limelight, and Beekman would stomp
her out. And it wasn't Beekman, it was Lester.
Yeah. So I liked the dynamic that those three
had, so between those, I didn't... I mean, some
of the incarnations of Beekman, when he'd try
and pretend to be various historical people,
was kind of corny, and he would throw out...
comedic jokes that were really really lame yeah
uh but it was still entertaining nonetheless
but i prefer i think would like you i prefer
beekman just as beekman instead of his other
characters i mean i didn't mind his other characters
but i liked him enough as himself that i was
would have been fine whether the other characters
existed or not yeah but yeah i agree with you
i think beekman's my favorite character um i
like lester a lot Like you said, I kind of like
Josie. I didn't necessarily care for Phoebe,
and I don't remember the other assistant at all.
But how about your favorite? I don't have any
least favorites in this one, but what about you,
JT? No, I pretty much liked everybody. I think
because of the limited cast, they worked a little
harder to make sure all the characters kind of
endeared themselves to the viewers. There's just
not a lot I... In fact, there's nothing that
I really dislike about the show. Yeah. The only
other thing I can mention that I kind of forgot
before is there was the, I don't know if you
want to call him the producer or the cameraman
or the, I don't know, director. Yeah, the hand
that would come in and hand Beekman stuff, or
occasionally they would have conversation or
kind of reference to or whatever. And I thought
that was kind of funny. I remember one scene
where Lester's saying something about he has
a crush on the makeup person or something like
that, and then all of a sudden the camera feed
gets all fuzzy because he's punishing. lester
and whoever's on screen by like making them so
they're not clear in the picture and then he's
like lester apologizes and he you know clarifies
the picture for him but i thought it was kind
of funny that they had that interaction yeah
if you want to see a good example of that look
up the the beekman's explains gas density they
have they have this thing where lester is i would
like some more cheese balls that you see thing
reaching in from offside just hucking cheese
balls at lester nice yeah it just all together
it was a it was a great um great put together
as far as the control chaos between all the cast
members um but i think that does it for the who's
who and it is going to be time now for the good
the bad we That's right. It is time for the good,
the bad and the ugly. I only have a few notes
that I want to talk about as far as things I
noticed on the actual show that I wanted to bring
up. Obviously, the one thing we always talk about
in this segment is the theme song. And I do like
the theme song. I mean, it's not something I
would like write down on a list of like favorite
theme songs ever. But I like the theme song and
I like how they went to the theme song with the
intro of Beakman or the Penguins. Usually Beakman
saying something about, you know, like. you have
just broken into Beekman's world, and then it
would go into the theme song. Yeah. It doesn't
have that hook like Bill Nye the Science Guy
that you have to say every time you say that,
but it's still a pretty cool theme song. Yeah,
no, that's the one thing that Bill Nye has over
Beekman is he has the superior theme. Yeah. You've
got to give it to him. I just like the way Beekman,
you know, this is Beekman's lab, and you've just
entered Beekman's world, and he does kind of
like that bug -eyed stare at the camera and does
like the... wiggles his fingers, but I have to
say the intro for Beacon's World, it's weak sauce.
For me, personally, it's not especially memorable.
No, it's actually the part with him talking about
right beforehand and introducing the theme is
almost better than the theme itself. Yeah. I
think it's just the way because it's a lot of
that early 90s, a lot of bright light, shadows,
stuff like that. It didn't stick with me. The
way that you look at Bill Nye's intro. Yeah.
Even cheaper 90s graphics, but it's just that
music and the way it's put together. You agree
or disagree, Steve? Which theme song do you prefer,
Bill Nye or Beakman? I still prefer Bill Nye.
Yeah. And even though there's elements between
the two that are similar, I still think Bill
Nye wins out overall for the theme song contest.
Yeah, he definitely has the better theme song.
Like I said, I like the little intro before the
theme song and the little clips they do right
before they get to the song, but then it's almost
like the song's a waste of time. Yeah. Another
thing I had written down that I wanted to talk
about, two more things. One thing is the Beakman
Challenge. I don't know if you guys remember
the Beakman Challenge parts or not. I always
loved these as a kid. And for those of you that
have no idea what I'm talking about, they would
get to a time. I mean, most of the show they
would be doing viewer mail, which we can talk
about in a minute if we want to. But then occasionally
they would break from that and they would be,
you know, it's time for a Beekman challenge or
whatever, however they said it. And it would
go into an actual experiment where they would
walk you through the steps so you could do it
at home. Obviously, they would do a little cheesy
thing where they're like, make sure you have
an adult. present or you know whatever but they'd
go through the list of materials that you needed
like they would say you know like for this one
you need uh scissors and a two liter bottle or
you know like they would go through all the little
things you needed show you what to do and then
they would do the experiment on on set so you
could see how it would work and i always thought
that was cool i don't i remember trying to do
a few of them with him But usually I was missing
some key part that I needed, so I couldn't do
them. But I always wanted to do the experiments
as he was doing them on TV. Do you guys remember
the Beakman Challenge at all? Vaguely. Okay.
I didn't see anything on YouTube, but I do kind
of remember that, you know, if you're going to
do this, do it exactly how we do. Have an adult
help you. No substitutions. I remember that was
always a rule. And there was one I was watching
today where they had Phoebe was dressed up. She
says all that, and then she's like, and don't
piss. Look at that! Because they would always
have that little random bits thrown in to remind
you this is supposed to be fun. Right, right.
I remember one that they did where – well, actually,
I remember it because I just saw it on YouTube,
obviously. But they have a two -liter bottle,
and they put a – cork in the top but then they
drill a hole in the cork and they put a straw
down into it and uh some other things that are
very important obviously to the experiment but
i can't remember what all the other pieces are
but basically what he was uh demonstrating he
blew into the the two liter bottle through the
straw and then as soon as he went away from the
bottle water came shooting out of the straw kind
of to represent what happens how an aerosol can
works as far as the spray And how that why the
liquid comes out of the spray can like that.
And I was like, man, I want to go do that right
now. But that's what I remember from when I was
a kid is these experiments I did were cool enough
where you wanted to do it. And it was like something
that if you did, it was like the cool experiments,
not like just a regular scientific experiment.
It was one that you would want to show off to
like a friend if you could figure out how to
do it. Yeah. And that was cool. Do you remember
the Beekman Challenge at all, Steve? Vaguely,
but not enough to actually make any kind of criticism.
Maybe that's just for me the part that stuck
with me the most. What about the way the show
was set up with the viewer mail? Do you guys
have any opinions on how you think that either
worked or didn't work, where they just kind of
rolled the big thing of letters and would pull
out random things supposedly written? I don't
know if they were actually written by people
or not. I'm assuming most of those are just fake
things that they threw in there. I mean, it kind
of had two things. Number one, it kept it like
it was interacting with the audience, but it
also is solely responsible for the fact that
they jumped all over the place as far as topic
-wise. So what was your thoughts on, JT, on how
they actually did the show format with reading
the viewer mail and just answering questions?
Well, first of all, I would like to imagine that
those were real questions answered by real people.
Me too. Suggest otherwise just shatters all my
illusions. Santa Claus is real, don't worry.
Oh, thank God. So is Megatron. Yes! He's here
with us. No, I kind of like that because, again,
it's the idea that if people are sending these
questions, it guaranteed a rotating sort of storyline
for back of the letter term. It kept the show
fresh. Kept it popping, kept it moving along.
It's never like three questions about electricity.
It's like one's about electricity, one's about
water pressure, one's about gravity. So it just
kept everything fresh because it kept mixing
it up. Right. What did you think about the viewer
mail aspect of the show, Steve? I like how they
went through and they actually read, you know,
user mail or viewer mail. Then proceeded to mock
some of the people afterwards. Yeah, and occasionally
they'd get to a question and it would be like
something that was so stupid that then that's
when they would go into the Beekman Challenge
and they would forget the question completely.
It's like, oh, that question wasn't worth answering.
Yeah, it's just Beekman looks at the camera with
this, like, you've got to be kidding me, throws
the letter away. Okay, let's do something else.
The only other thing I really had that I wanted
to talk about as far as the other show was one
of the specific characters that we kind of mentioned
before that Beekman plays, which is the I Am
Boring, Professor I Am Boring. Out of all the
characters, I thought that one was kind of clever
because it was a way to make fun of the boring,
more typical probably to be in your actual school
science teacher, where you would have these topics.
And the reason I liked it is because it was like
Beekman and the people behind the show was like,
look, all you people that are having these exact
same topics that we're talking about that make
it boring, we're going to make fun of you for
making it boring, and then we're going to show
you how you could have made that interesting.
And I just kind of thought it was a cool jab
at kind of the old school science teacher that
wasn't maybe as fun or exciting as he should
have been. Yeah. I mean, if I had a science teacher
like that in school, there was no way I'd ever
skip a class. Yeah. Obviously, if you have Beekman
or Bill Nye or Mr. Wizard teaching your class,
you're going to be interested compared to Professor
I Am Boring, which obviously it was intentional,
but I just thought it was a cool little jab that
they had in there. Yeah. Anything else about
the actual show that either one of you want to
talk about? Things you like, things you didn't
like, segments that we didn't talk about or anything
like that? JT? I think for me personally, one
of my favorite demonstrations he ever did in
the show was he brings in this probably fake
surfboard, breaks it. It's got the classic zigzag
break pattern through it. He uses this to illustrate
how broken bones heal themselves. And I think
that was probably the reason it stuck with me,
the reason I like that sort of thing, is his
demonstrations were always kind of big and comical
like that. But it's that scale, the comical scale
like that, that's what makes it stick for me
in my mind. Because he breaks the surfboard in
half. He said, this is your bones. He puts the
glue and puts the pieces together. This is like
the first stage of your body healing yourself.
And then he wraps, like, this weave around the
board, and he puts, like, resin around that.
And the whole time he's talking about this is
the process by which your bone, your body heals
a broken bone. Yeah. You know, and it's just
that illustration like that makes it stick in
your mind, and you recall that more easily than,
you know, just watching Bill Nye do it. Like
I said, I love Bill Nye, but Beekman, because
of that comical aspect, it just stuck with me
a lot more. Yeah, my favorite skit that I saw
in preparation for this record was one about
cars, actually. And it wasn't necessarily that
it was that comical. It wasn't that it was exciting
or it wasn't, you know, there was no really glitz
and glam to it. But it was because it was for
the first time ever someone explained to me,
yes, I know I'm old, but I'm not a car person,
and I have never wanted or cared about how cars
work. I've never wanted to be a mechanic or work
on my car or do anything like that. I'm just
not like that. And they were explaining how a
car works and the different strokes and what
happens with the pistons and everything about
it. And for the first time, it was crystal clear
to me how cars work. And I'm like, really? I
had to watch a Beekmans episode at the age of
whatever age I am right now to have something
make sense. And I was like, wow, I should watch
more of these. Steve, did you have a skit that
you were watching? in preparation for this that
you remembered, or what was your favorite one
that you watched? Well, for instance, I liked
how, and this was common in a few that I watched,
Beekman would purposely taunt Lester with little
things, little projects, and would say, hey,
I bet you can't do this. And Lester would be
like, oh yeah, I can do it. And then he would
try and then... Primarily fail because I wouldn't
tell him all the rules. Right. No, that was always
good. That's not fair. Blah, blah, blah. And
then he starts getting all irritated. He's like,
well, actually, it was supposed to be done like
this. Yeah, he definitely liked to mess with
Lester. And I thought Lester did a very good
job of playing that part and making you feel
for him. And that was kind of why you liked him,
even though he was repulsive and disgusting.
All right. Anything else, guys, about good, bad,
and the ugly? Like I said before, there's no
bad, there's no ugly. It's all good. Unless you
don't like big guys in rat costumes, I guess.
Maybe that's ugly to you. I don't know. It could
be worse than bananas in pajamas or something.
It could be. It's not attractive, but it's not
going to make me not watch the show. It could
be a guy in a purple dinosaur suit or something
like that. He will die. Did I just go there?
Yes, you did. So that's the good thing. It's
not that I really have anything against purple
dinosaurs, Megatron. It's just there's one purple
dinosaur in particular that, well, no one likes.
Sounds like something that Mike would like. I'm
just kidding. So I'm just basing it on other
things he likes. I'm sorry, Mike. So that's the
good, the bad, and the ugly of Beakman's World.
And now it is time for... Things that make you
go. Hmm. All right, here are some of the things
that you might not know about Beakman's World.
I only have two of them, so we'll try to get
through it pretty quickly here. But the first
one, obviously, like always... Beekman's World,
being the educational show, was nominated for
and won a bunch of awards. I'm not going to necessarily
go through all of them, but some of the ones
I do want to mention is Daytime Emmy Award for
Outstanding Achievement in Live and Tape Sound
Mixing and Sound Effects, Cable Ace Award for
Best Children's Program in Seven. age seven or
older in 1994, nominated for seven different
daytime Emmys, including Outstanding Children's
Series in 95. So, I mean, there was a lot of
awards that this show was either nominated or
won, and obviously that's how it should have
been with Bill Nye, with Beekmans. I'm still
surprised that Salute Your Shorts and... What
was the other one we covered right at the beginning?
Some of those Nick shows, I'm surprised that
some of those were nominated and won awards,
but I'm not surprised at all on Bill Nye or Beakman's
World. Yeah. I mean, it just makes sense. They're
educational. And they were awesome. Yeah, awesome
educational shows. Now, Steve, I know you and
Tara both had mentioned that Bill Nye was shown
a lot in school. Was Beakman's World ever shown
in any of your guys' classes? No. Well, I went
to school in a fairly small town, so we didn't
really have anything. They never showed Bill
Nye or Beekman's in my school. I'm guessing Bill
Nye was a little more suited for the classroom
than Beekman maybe. Well, yeah. No, like I said,
I was talking about Beekman when we did the supplemental.
I could tune in on Saturdays, and just on Saturdays
for some reason, I could tune in Saturday morning
from the CBS affiliate in Minot, North Dakota,
and watch. a slew of the CBS programming. So
when I'd go to school and talk to my friends
about this show, Beakman's World, they're all
looking at me and it's like, that's nice. We
can't watch it. Yeah. Steve, you said, is it
just Bill Nye was the only thing that was shown
in your school? Yeah, that's pretty much all
they showed. Beakman was never shown in my school.
Gotcha. I can kind of see why. I mean, like you
said before, there was a little bit more of the
toilet humor in Beakman than there was in Bill
Nye. And the other thing that you might not have
known, actually, JT beat me to it, so we won't
really talk about it too much, but it was just
that homage to Mr. Wizard. I think that's an
epically cool thing that Beekman's did, recognizing
the mad scientist that came before him. And if
you want to hear more about Mr. Wizard, tune
in to Episode 8, and you'll hear me talk about
that. So I think we're going to go VH1 and answer
the question as far as where are they now, and
we'll start with Beekman. Like we said before,
Beekman is not necessarily an educational person.
At heart, he's more of an entertainer. There
is an actual Beekman's Live touring science experiment
show that I believe is still doing stuff occasionally
or that you can at least call and book or you
watch. I don't know exactly how it works, but
there's some type of show out there that either
existed in the past or still exists. that shows
different scientists' experiments. And the reason
I'm thinking it's still going is because Beekman
has his very own website, which is his last name,
zalume .com. And on there, I think you can book
stuff. I don't know exactly what you book, if
it's just him coming to talk to you and entertain
you, or if it's shows or what. He's also done
a feature -length puppet film called Dante's
Inferno. which is exactly what it sounds. It's
a puppet version of the book Dante's Inferno,
which seems very twisted and messed up. And he
also teaches puppetry and performing arts at
different schools at different times. I don't
know if he's currently doing that, but he's done
that throughout the years. So he does do some
teaching, but it's not educational stuff. He's
teaching people how to be a puppeteer in the
performing arts type stuff. So that's more of
his genre. And the only other person I was going
to talk about, obviously I said, you know, the
one assistant is doing voice acting. I couldn't
really find any information on the other two
female assistants. But Lester, unfortunately,
is no longer with us. He died two years ago in
2009 at the age of 63. So where is he now? Hopefully
in a good place. Damn rights. So that's all I
have for as far as where are they now. So I think
we're going to take a quick intermission, but
please don't touch that dial because there will
be some cool little inserts during the commercial
break as well as some commercials and sound clips
and stuff that should take you back to 1992 or
94 or 97 at some point during the show's run.
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next time on Beakman's World. All right, thanks
for staying with us, everyone. You may be wondering
how you can watch Beakman's World now, so we're
going to give you the information you need to
know. First of all, so Mike doesn't get mad at
me, I will give you the iTunes information, which
is there is no information. Beakman's World is
not, as far as what I can tell, available on
iTunes at all, so that's not an option for you.
It is, though, somewhat available on DVD. The
reason I say somewhat is because in 2004, a DVD
entitled The Best of Beekman's World was released,
but it is a direct transfer of the VHS of the
same name and features only experiments and segments
taken from The Beekman Challenge, which is the
part that I was talking about before. So there
have yet to be any full episode releases on DVD.
There is a new thing that we haven't talked about
as far as any other episodes. We've talked about
iTunes and DVD and YouTube before, but Beakman
is season one through four is available through
Netflix on their online streaming video service.
So if you actually want to see full episodes
or full seasons, your only choice at this point
is through Netflix online streaming video service.
You can get that DVD. I'm sure you're not going
to find it anywhere but online somewhere. And
since it's a direct transfer of the VHS and it's
only including segments from the Beakman's Challenge,
I don't know if it's worth it. Basically, unless
you want to get it through Netflix streaming
video service, you're going to be left with YouTube.
And I don't know about your guys' YouTube experience
with Beakman, but for me, it wasn't super easy
to find entire episodes. There was a couple.
There was these long... records or like YouTube
videos that were like multiple episodes tied
to like running back to back. Like I had one,
I had a YouTube cause usually when you find a
show like this on YouTube, it is in three parts.
The Beekman's video that I was finding had five
parts and it was usually two episodes back to
back. I don't know what you guys found. What
did you guys think about the YouTube quality,
as far as the quality of the picture and what
you were able to find on YouTube for Beekman?
I actually found a lot of these were good quality
video clips. A lot of them you'll see like Fox
or CBS, like the little watermarks on the screen.
wherever these are taped from, and a lot of these
are actually some pretty good transfers. Yeah,
I think the transfer is good. The actual quality
of the video is probably one of the best we've
had since, I can't remember, one of the Nickelodeon
ones had a really good feed. I don't remember
if it was Pete and Peter or something like that.
It had a really crystal clear feed. This one
has a pretty clear feed. It's just a little bit
of a hassle as far as which videos you can find
where and full episodes. Well, yeah. Because,
I mean, a lot of them, from what I found, like
there's the best of Beakman's World is cut up
into like six parts on YouTube. And aside from
something like that, there's a lot of it's either
titled Beakman's World and the name of the experiment
or it's Beakman Explains Skin. Yeah, they're
mostly just little segments. I did find a lot
of segment clips. Yeah, I did find one that shows
a lot of his characters. It just goes from one
of his alter egos to another, and it goes through,
I don't know how many, it's only a couple minutes,
like four minutes long, but it goes through a
bunch of his different characters. Or like you
said, it goes through experiments. It's not really
like a full episode as what you would have seen
on TV, except for these ones that I was finding
that were multiple episodes back -to -back in
like a five -parter. But like you said, the quality
was pretty good. What did you think of the YouTube
quality, Steve? It depended on what you clicked
on. Yeah. I watched the best of... Beakman's
World to kind of get the gist of the show again
so I could re -familiarize myself. Those were
pretty well done. But most of the other stuff
I ran into was either Spanish or bad quality
clips. And they weren't full episodes. They were
just like random clips. Right. No, I kind of
ran into that same thing. I also did notice that
you can, Paul Zaloom, the guy that plays Beakman,
if you're really interested, you can watch a
few of his other comedy routines on, I don't
know if it was TV shows or if it was on some
weird stuff, but he has some weird comedy tastes.
I don't know. But if you look up just Paul Zaloom,
you'll find a few more YouTube videos that you
may or may not enjoy. Let's see. I think that
does it as far as where you can watch it. Like
I said, Netflix, I guess, is your best bet if
you want full seasons. Otherwise, YouTube, unless
you want to take a chance on that DVD, but it
just doesn't sound like it's going to be great
quality being a direct transfer from the VHS.
And as of now, there's no iTunes for it. So I
think that means it's time for us to continue
our IGN bashing. which we're taking to a new
level. If you haven't heard yet, be on the lookout
for some new Geekcast Radio episodes. That's
the flagship show. It's just called Geekcast
Radio Network Show, where we are going to be
taking our IGN bashing to a new level and making
a new list of top 100 animated series of all
time. So be on the lookout for that coming real
soon. But as far as hipster douchebags. Yeah.
So we're going to do it right. We're going to
do it, do it right. And you're going to enjoy
it. And it's going to be epic. And I just got
to say one thing about how little love do you
have for animated cartoons? If you're putting
goddamn mask at the bottom of the fucking pile.
Hey, at least it got in the pile. No, that's
not an excuse. No, some of the shows that aren't
an ad on their list. I'm not saying it's got
to be top 10, but top 50 at least. No, it's like
93. Like, what the hell? Yeah, so if you want
to hear all of our takes on IGN and our discussion
of what they forgot to put on the list and what
our list consists of, just, like I said, keep...
checking the Geekcast Radio website and looking
for those flagship show episodes. I'll have to
get that out. No, that's fine. As far as Beakman's
World goes, Steve, doing your IGN replacement
crew duty, one, two, three, or four stars, what
would you give this one? I would have to say
I would definitely give it a three, just because
Netflix does have it, which until now I did not
know, so now it's on my Netflix. All four seasons.
Nice. So I plan on watching those. That's awesome.
For the next couple weeks. So despite the fact
that it's pretty much children's comedy, I am
easily amused. No, I was definitely amused by
it. I was definitely entertained. I'm going to
be looking forward to hear from you maybe again
on a future episode once you've had a chance
to watch some of those. Yeah, definitely. More
than likely because I don't sleep very often.
nights I record, I will probably be watching
these for the next two hours after the show.
Nice. Yes, I would definitely give it a three
at least because, hell, you can't watch Bill
Nye on Netflix. You might as well watch Beakman's.
There we go. It's at least pretty much neck and
neck with it. Yeah. What about you, JT? I'm going
to give it a solid three. I mean, I'd give it
a five out of five for overall quality. But on
The Replacement Crew, I give it a solid three.
I like the show. If I had Netflix, I'd definitely
be busting that out tonight. Still don't know
if it's going to work here in Canada. Yeah, it's
a solid three. I love the show, but not enough
to own the DVD sets. Right. That makes it completely
unanimous in Episode 7. We're all giving this
one a three. Like I said with some of the other
episodes, because I don't give out... So far,
it seems like all I've given out is twos and
threes, just about, with one exception. But yeah,
this one's a solid three. I wouldn't necessarily
spend money and get them on DVDs, but if I was
able to watch them... Well, I am able to watch
them, I guess, now on Netflix. If I was able
to watch them on iTunes or some other method,
or if they were re -airing on some type of TV
show, which they have run in syndication quite...
many times on different TV stations. If it was
something that I caught on TV, I'd probably watch
it. So a solid three is for all three of us,
which makes sense. So that's good. As far as
any last words on the show, JT, sum up your final
thoughts and opinions on Beekman's World. One
of my all -time favorite educational shows that
I watched growing up. Growing up, I always had
a love for slapstick comedy and the funny sound
effects. That's something, again, because you
look back at the daytime Emmys that this thing
won for best sound editing, which is something
that even as a kid I kind of took notice of.
This thing just kind of had all its ducks in
a row, all its eggs in a basket. It just worked
on every level for me. Excellent. Steve? I would
definitely say that if you're a fan of educational,
scientific, goofy comedies, it's pretty much
like we mentioned before, and I have a new dynamic
to add to it. It's like Pee Wee Herman meets
Bill Nye the Science Guy meets The Three Stooges.
Excellent. So, yes, I would definitely say this
is something that you would want to pick up.
At least on Netflix to watch. I definitely think
this show is warranted for it, and especially
if you have kids, I would have to say that this
would be another recommendation to have them
watch, because not only would they be learning
something, but they would be enjoying what they
watch. Exactly. Yeah, and like you said, this
is one of the... For me, this is one of the better
educational shows that was available. I mean,
it was one of the ones that I latched on to.
I mean, obviously, at a much earlier age, there
was things like Sesame Street or some other shows
that we'll get to much later on in the telecast
season. But as far as just straight educational
shows that were aimed at, like, you know, eight
to... whatever age you want to be, I guess, 8
to 15, I don't know. Those type shows like we
were talking about with Bill Nye or with this
one, this was one of the ones that for some reason
just grabbed my attention more than some of the
other ones. The only one that I have fonder memories
of as a kid is the one we're going to be talking
about next week, and I'm interested to see if
after I see some of Mr. Wizard's World, if I
still have those same fond memories or if it's
something that doesn't hold up, but we'll see
for that. But yeah, Beakman's World, just all
kinds of fun, and it was... It's education masked
as controlled chaos fun, and it almost could
trick you into learning things. So yeah, I think
we all three agree that this is a pretty darn
good show. So I'd like to... I'd like to thank
Steve and JT for being with me here on this episode,
and I'd like to thank everybody out there for
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to leave us feedback on the show, there are some
key ways that you should do this. First off,
I mentioned the website before. Go to www .geekcastradioalloneword
.com. You can find a telecast tab at the top
of the page. Click on it. You'll see little segments
for all of our episodes where you can comment
on each individual episode. You will also see
an entry for the theme song contest which i have
had my first official theme song contest entry
um i got it yeah i got it last week from uh shelly
is the name that she gave me and um let me just
say that shelly did an excellent job it is possible
for someone to beat her though So she did not
get a perfect score on it. So if someone wants
to beat her and win a prize, listen to the end
of any of the episodes and try to guess which
songs are in which order, and that would be cool.
Also, Shelly also made a second post on the Listener's
Choice episode. So now we have TFG1 Mike and
Shelly who have tried to nominate shows for our
Listener's Choice episode, which will be towards
the end of our Season 1. So if you have a show
that you want us to cover that's not already
in our Season 1 schedule, please make sure to
go to the website and make those comments. Another
good thing for you to do for us is leave us feedback
on iTunes. Give us a critique. Tell us what we're
doing good. Tell us what you'd like to see improved.
We've had three American reviews on our iTunes
website so far. We've had one on the Canadian
website that I'm aware of, and we have a 4 .5
out of 5 star rating, so that's good. So keep
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while you're there. So, that does it for now.
We hope we succeeded in entertaining you, informing
you, and most importantly... unleashing the geek
in you on this episode of the telecast and we
hope that you will tune in for our next episode
when we go old school with the original mad scientist
mr wizard's world for now i am your host optimus
solo with gt from saskatoon and steve megatron
phillips saying zalum and tune in in 10 days
for another episode of the telecast Remember
this. Okay, Don, you can turn it off. Wait, Herb,
you know what they say. It ain't over till the
fat penguin sings. Who says that? Well, I did.
They do now. Are you anywhere near the remote?
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