Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Series Recap
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Hello and welcome to the 93rd episode of Pixels
in the Animation. I am one of your host, TFG1Mike.
Joining me is TV's Mr. Neil. Want a chili dog?
No. Hell no. Those are not way past cool, and
I will not be waiting for them at all. Today
we are going to be giving you what you have been
waiting for though. That's right, we're done
with the Adventures of Sonic series. We are done
with Sonic overall. But we still gotta recap
it and give general thoughts after we've watched
the series and all that good stuff. Favorite
characters for me on this one? Sonic, Tails,
Grounder, and Robotnik. would say are the four
that I like the most I mean there really isn't
a lot of Okay, and in West Weasley But there
really isn't like when we first started watching
this it was just Sonic and Tails there was no
Other freedom fighters there was I mean there
have been characters as the series progressed
that has come that have come in and things like
that but For the main part Sonic and Tails are
the heroes of this series, and that's all you
get And at first, I thought that was going to
be boring as hell. And depending more so on the
writing in the episode, plot depends on whether
it was going to be boring or not. Do you have
any favorite characters from this series? No.
You mean Scratch? No, Grounder. Oh, thank God.
was just the perfect stupid character I loved
listening to his dopey voice even when the plot
was stupid he was always funny especially the
episode where he was smart yeah grounder the
genius I I'm so glad they did that because it
gave Gary Chalk a chance to use a slightly different
vocal tone and I remember when we interviewed
him was it right after Right after Captain N
or right there was a point because we were talking
about No, it was Mega Man. That's what it was
because God Mayor Squaresley and Gutsman and
all that so it was in he was either right before
or right after our Mega Man episodes And I remember
telling him, oh, yeah, well, eventually we're
going to be getting to Adventures of Sonic the
Hedgehog. And he's like, oh, yeah, I was the
voice on that. I was like, oh, yeah, that's right.
You were grounder. And I just love it when he
pops up in anything. It really doesn't matter
what it is. I've caught him in more live action
stuff recently than ever before. Not that. And
I know you're gonna cringe at this, but not that
anybody really will ever watch this. The David
Hasselhoff version of Nick Fury, Agent of S .H
.I .E .L .D. Gary's in that. He plays dumb dumb.
Plays dumb dumb doogan. Hello, dumb dumb. I might
actually have to go find that after this podcast
and watch that. I like that movie. For as bad
as it is, I mean. He was in several episodes
of Arrow and Flash and things like that. He showed
up as a prisoner in an episode of... And this
is just me, folks, remembering where I've seen
him. I'm not looking at any IMDB or anything.
An episode of Alcatraz, a very short -lived Fox
series about the prison Alcatraz. So that was
kind of cool. But yeah, no, Grounder the G...
Yes, Grounder was awesome. I love Grounder. That
was probably the best episode. Yeah. So speaking
of the best episodes, what are some of your favorite
episodes? Do you have any? Let's see. Well, Grounder
the Genius. That's really the only one that springs
to mind. There really weren't any other episodes
that jumped out at me. For me, it was... Birth
of a Salesman because that was Wes Weasley's
debut. Again, I just love that character. I love
that character voice, but I love that character.
Ground to the Genius as we've already said. Robotnik
Jr. and Sonic the Matchmaker because again, voices
Ian James Corlett is Robotnik Jr. So I like those
episodes. As we said when we were talking about
it, when we reviewed the episodes, I really think
the Chaos Emeralds arc should have been the final
five or final four episodes of this series. I
did like those because they had a specific story
in mind. So I like those. Favorite video game
based thing in the cartoon? Obviously, for me
the music. And when they eventually, I think
this was in the Candice Emeralds arc, when they
eventually hit the special stage thing, I thought
that was cool. Yeah, I'd say mostly the music.
Anything involving the storyline doesn't really
make any difference to me because it's a different
medium. Stuff from the video game doesn't necessarily
have to cross over into the show, so it doesn't...
No, it doesn't. Well... It doesn't have to but
I like when it like, you know If they mention
casino night zone or chemical plants just that
they mention it or they go to some weird variation
of it I think that is kind of cool Now we get
into the least favorite stuff least favorite
characters I think we could both agree on scratch.
Yeah He was okay at the beginning, but he just
wears thin on you after 65 episodes I would say
after 49 and a half. Really? I mean... No. Basically
after about 10 episodes. He got old really quick.
I also... Mama Robotnik? She wasn't around that
much to get annoying though. She was actually
kind of funny for what she was. Especially when
she had the mustache. yeah there is that one
episode where they ripped it off of him and put
it on her and I'm like how the hell does that
work? least favorite episodes pretty much everything
not listed in the favorite episodes for me Pretty
much. It's kind of a blur at this point. So let's
see here. In my favorites, I've got one, two,
three, four. I've got nine episodes total, because
if the Chaos Emerald Ark is five episodes, I
have four other. So I have nine favorite episodes
out of 65. And I really can't count the Christmas
blast thing as the 65th episode, because they
tried to amalgamate. both adventures and Satan
and it just didn't well it wouldn't have been
the 65th episode because it was it was after
Order 66 Order 66 there you go thanks a lot Emperor
Palpatine reference that movie that's the only
good thing about that movie They killed off all
of the stupid Jedi characters and all the CG
characters That was the one good thing about
Revenge of the Sith he was barely in it Yeah
Let's see do we have any trivia for this series
No, I don't no, okay I've highly doubt this would
be a show that I would ever go back to Not even
some of my favorite episodes I mean they say
that oh, this is the funny one and there are
funny parts in this but Too much chili dog stuff
too many catchphrases from Sonic the fact that
the one episode where they have to Get his memory
back by using cat his own catchphrases to make
him remember that just oh god right I Guess it
could be worse. We could have had You know 20
podcast episodes on Donkey Kong Country though
I mean, I only watched a compilation movie of
four episodes, and it was so weird to watch.
That animation, it's just... I can't put my finger
on it, but it's so ugly and wrong. Yeah. The
animation in this series in Adventures wasn't...
It really depended on... This series, most of
the cartoons in the 90s, like, I've recently...
In the last month or so, actually this month,
the month of July, people probably won't hear
this until God knows when, but July 2017, I went
ahead and I did the seven day free trial with
Boomerang, their streaming service. And after
the seven days was over, I paid the five bucks
to have the service. It's five bucks a month.
You can watch. There's all kinds of stuff on
there. So I've pretty much watched all of my
favorite Looney Tunes cartoons, you know, Duckamuck,
Rabbit Rampage, the Duck Season Rabbit Season
trilogy from Chuck Jones, other Elmer stuff,
other Yosemite Sam stuff, other Daffy, like Robin
Hood Daffy, to trip, to trip, to trip, to trip.
And what I've found on there now and that I've
been watching is Chuck Jones Tom and Jerry Because
that's my personal I like the Hannah Barbera
Tom and Jerry I do but the Chuck Jones stuff
because it's more It's Tom and Jerry, but it's
more what if Tom and Jerry was in the Looney
Tunes universe kind of thing? Somewhat and what
I've noticed about that and all of the other
bugs and Daffy and other Looney Tunes is how
much I pay attention to the names on The credits
like the like to see what because I've done I've
done that for years to see what animators are
there What writers or what whatever? But here
it's like With the animation on Adventures of
Sonic the Hedgehog. Sometimes it's really excellent,
sometimes it's great, and sometimes it looks
like, you know, a six -month -old did it. I mean,
I can't even credit like a two - or a three -year
-old kid, but there were times in the beginning
of this series where the speed animation on Sonic
made him look like he was fatter than what he
is. It made him look like he was sloppier than
what he is, and it just was not... Good animation
Well, it really comes down to it's a completely
different era I mean You're talking about the
Chuck Jones era of Tom and Jerry all that animation
was done over here Whereas with Sonic and a lot
of well pretty much all cartoons of the 90s were
animated overseas and it's a it's a little difficult
to to sometimes get people from other countries
who speak different languages to animate the
way you want them to. And it really took a long
time for that to even out, whereas today we have,
well, we sort of have better animation. Too many
flabby arms today though. Yeah, the Cal art style
needs to die. I hate that style. Yeah. You know,
people say to me, why don't you watch Steven
Universe? Why don't you watch Adventure Time?
I don't like the animation. It has nothing to
do with the story or the characters, but I just
don't like the animation style. So if I don't
like the animation style, why am I going to watch
the show? Yeah. I mean, Korra was pretty good.
Yeah. I remember Korra. Yeah. I miss good cartoons.
Yeah, that's true. I don't know. I'm trying to
see if there's any good trivia here. Most of
the bounty hunters in Adventures of Sonic the
Hedgehog, Super Sonic, Search and Smash and Squad
were used as the cast for Dr. Robotnik's Mean
Bean Machine. That is true, I remember that.
There's the one robot that looks like he's got
the Davy Jones hat or no not Davy Crockett. Mm
-hmm It looks like a coon skin hat He's in that
game Yeah, I Like the fact that they you know
took scratch grounder and coconuts out of Sonic
2 Because they were in the in the Sonic 2 game.
I like that Kind of yeah Yeah, I think scratch
also showed up in Sonic Spinball Mm -hmm seem
to remember a chicken enemy in that Yeah, apparently
the Roadrunner cartoons are a major influence
behind this series I can see that in the backgrounds.
Yeah Part of the theme is in the Hall of the
Mountain King by Edward Grieg, okay Let's see
here. What else? Dr. Robotnik was originally
conceived as a television's sexiest fat man.
They do show his ass a lot. Yeah, they do. The
animators weren't up to the challenge, but it
didn't stop them from slipping in a lot of shirtless
scenes and scenes that draw too much attention
on Robotnik's ass. There also includes a bikini
peg from Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Hero
of the Year. God. Jesus Christ. Oh, this is interesting.
Jaleel White, Mr. Urkel there, was the only American
voice actor. Everyone else was based in Vancouver.
You know, I was going to say, yeah, he's the
odd one up because everyone else in the show
is Canadian. You know, I mean, yes, this show
and Satan were going at the same time. That's
fine, I have no problem with that. I think it
makes sense because they were going at the same
time that you have the same guy voicing the lead
character. I hear they have to instruct all those
actors to speak American. So you can't say sorry
about the hoose. It won't happen again. Yes.
We're talking to you JT Mr. I can't afford the
stripper Ella DVDs Professor Von Schlemmer, a
character that appeared in Adventure Sonic the
Hedgehog, Two Tall Tales, made an appearance
in a modernized design in the Sonic Universe
comic book story, art titled The Silver Age.
I saw that. So that's kind of interesting. Yeah,
he looks completely different. He's the same
color. Same color scheme, but yeah. They kind
of gave him that retro sort of American anime
look that... was all the rage for a while. I
am. I can see that. Like I said, I'm glad we
went through this because we needed to cover.
When I set out to have us do this we were gonna
cover every major video game character that had
a cartoon and I think in almost four and a half
five years We've kind of done that because next
year will be our fifth year that we're gonna
end the show on But it's one of those things
where you know, we got Mario we got the captain
and stuff. We got the Zelda stuff Mega Man Sonic
we did one episode for Donkey Kong Country And
then of course the darker the darker episodes
with you know the stalkers and and Street Fighter
and Mortal Kombat Those are terrible those are
probably the worst shows we watch I mentioned
Neil off air. I said, oh, I said, we're going
to wrap up the show, the podcast, the way that
we have set out now, folks. So it's not going
to continue. But I did say if we were ever going
to continue, I said, there's a new Castlevania
thing on Netflix. And he's like, no, too new.
It's that sort of weird hyper -anime style that
I don't really like. I like the old anime. Vampire
Hunter D. Are you sure? You want to admit to
that? Liking that? Don't you tell me. That's
a great cartoon. Okay, no, I'm not judging it.
I'm just saying I remember when I told you about
this, your response was, no, I put my anime time
in 20 years ago with Vampire Hunter D and I thought
it was a negative. That's a pretty good show.
Okay. Booby actually. Yeah. It always amazes
me when some of the anime stuff pops up over
on Hulu. Yeah. It's really hit or miss. Yeah.
I think I could be wrong, but I think the first
version of it, and I'm sure you don't like this,
but... when Yu -Gi -Oh! first started way back
when with the the whole Kaiba Corp and it like
that that first series that they started it wasn't
it was on Netflix for a while but I think now
they have because I watched the first two seasons
I think they have all of the seasons on Hulu
now which I got disappointed watching that on
Netflix I'm like wait I can only watch two seasons
of this hello yeah so but yeah Adventures of
Sonic the Hedgehog I like Jim Cummings as the
original Robotnik in Satan, but Long John Baldry
did a damn good job in this. He was pretty funny.
Yeah, he was pretty funny. That was very, very
well done. So I think instead of dragging this
out, folks, we're just going to put a full stop
to Sonic. You got anything you want to talk about
before we get out of here? Just at the next episode
I had picked out a short list of cartoons that
says basically gonna One episode each we're gonna
basically go I'm gonna go over the 80s Video
game cartoons, you know Saturday Supercade I
picked out an episode of pole position and then
we're gonna do the Christmas episode of Pac -Man
finally And one of those is really good and the
other two are Saturday Supercade and Pac -Man
Wow Finally, I'm going to give some props to
poor old Gene Shalapin who basically made DeWalk
the Plank at Deek. What we basically watched
over the course of this podcast was all the cartoons
that were made after he left. I mean, does Deek
really have... That might be an interesting...
Pods Beyond, Tooncast Beyond, but that might
be an interesting look back. The history of the
Deke animation studio. Yeah, that's one of those
where it's like... So it's Inspector Gadget and
The Littles and... Okay, we're done. No, they
had a couple good cartoons. The Mysterious Cities
of Gold was pretty good. And then... Lot of not
so good stuff. Mm -hmm Yep, yeah, they just they
just wouldn't die. I mean they kept making shit
and Sunbow was like Done in about four years.
Yeah, and that just really broke my heart. Mm
-hmm Yeah, and oh I know another bad thing deep
did No, worse than that. The new adventures of
He -Man. Oh boy, you're crazy. Hashtag not my
He -Man, hashtag not my Skeletor. Hell no. Have
you gone back and watched any of it recently?
I've seen some of it. I know the animation gets
really hairy about halfway through. And it's
really not that good at the beginning, but there
are parts of it where I look at it and I'm like,
wow, this looks like a really mediocre episode
of... of like Robotech or something. And then
He -Man shows up and I'm like, God damn it. It's
like, I feel like it could have been a good cartoon
if it wasn't Masters of the Universe. And also
if it wasn't based on toys, because like I said,
it was like, there's that one guy who's in a
scuba outfit, like at all times for some reason.
And it drives me nuts when the cartoon characters
have to be in the toy design all the time. Optimus
Solo and I are going through all, I think there
are 65 episodes for that series. As of this podcast
recording, we've recorded the first six cartoon
reviews, so the first two podcasts for that.
And there's one episode in those six that basically
has three different reference points for the
87 Masters film. And I'm like, seriously, really?
Can you not? It's not even the animation with
that series that bugs me. It's the fact that
the pilot of the very first episode it took them
eight and a half minutes to mention anything
about he -man Yeah, that's it's more so the writing
that I have a problem with that series is why
I say it's bad it's not the animation is okay
at least for the first six episodes that I've
seen at this point, but No, the animation starts
out. Okay, it kind of looks like a regular deep
series that kind of has sort of the inspector
gadget looks are also sort of the Captain and
look and then it just it gradually goes downhill
like the last 20 to 30 episodes are really bad
and it's really sad because the character Mara
I'm gonna again I have to be good and point this
out, but the character Mara gets a wardrobe change
about two -thirds of the way through the show,
and it should be a good wardrobe change, the
kind that I like, but she's drawn so poorly,
and it just makes me cry. I think at this point,
everything about that series makes me cry. You
know what it is? They draw her like a linebacker.
Oh, no! It's like, what? What model are you using?
I mean, I know, like, a lot of these animation,
a lot of these animators, they'll use, like,
rotoscope footage. I mean, more complicated than
what filmation does. You know, all animation
uses rotoscoping. But, like, it's like they were
using all men. So Mara looks like this big, beefy
dude, and she's just got these weird lumps on
her chest. I'm like, what the hell is going on
here? Gives new term to the gives new meaning
to the term lovely lady lumps That's going to
do it for the summer of Sonic, folks. We're going
to take a little bit of a break on the podcast
here. And episode 94, as Neil already said, is
going to be the Pac -Man Christmas thing and
the Saturday Supercade and all that. But that'll
probably come out somewhere in between Halloween
and Thanksgiving, maybe. Somewhere around there.
Somewhere right before Christmas, I guess. And
then you'll hear me say this in that episode
as well. But next year. The final five episodes
of Pixels and the Animation. 95 is Nintendo Power
and the Nintendo Merchandise. 96 is the Nintendo
Comics. Oh god, that's gonna be a nightmare.
Howard and Nester, Mario and Zelda, Captain and
the others. both includes nintendo power comics
and the valiant comics in march we're gonna have
a review of wreck -it ralph 2 and we're gonna
do an april fools special animation in the pixels
so it's not an april fools special if you tell
them what we're gonna do sure it is alright Didn't
tell them what we I told them what it's called.
I didn't tell them what it's what we're doing
In May it'll be the Mega Man Sonic stuff and
then also Also in May will be the Street Fighter
and a little bit of Mortal Kombat stuff in there
And then June June 21st 2018 will be the final
episode episode 100, so it'll be the finale Yay
Almost there Now this has been a fun ride it
really has I can't believe it's taken us five
years, but hey I'm glad the cartoons are over.
I could just do normal research and look at bad
comics. Actually, a lot of good comics. The Nintendo
Power comics are really good. Yeah. Yep, I remember
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