Daryl Hall and John Oates’ Rock ‘N Soul Part 1

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20 episodes since we did a whole notes thing

course that was last year almost we're just over

the month It's been a year and a month just under

a month when we recorded the h2o 40th anniversary

album party and joining me is Mr. Jesse Jackson

from set listing Bruce perfectly good podcast

and some other weird Police box thing. He does

I don't know Hello Mike It's always a good time

to talk Hall and Oates. Absolutely. Ready to

talk a little music with you, ready to have a

little fun. So yeah, this is going to be great.

Yeah. So just to get the not not trying to pull

any kind of isms out of my butt or anything,

but the age is in between the two of us, folks.

I was three years old when this album came out

and Jesse was about a year or so away from marrying

the love of his life. Yeah Yeah, we kind of that

ran into Just recently Sylvan and I had Jake

Thistle on and he was talking about You know

that the age, you know, like if we were talking

about the different ages He was like three when

something came off and it still was like, oh

I was a teenager. I was like, I was already married.

So yeah very very very very change. Yeah, so

I remember when you actually heard Daryl Hall

and John Oates on the radio. That's how old I

am. I remember that too, but I remember the decline

because I was, you know, four, five, three, four,

five, six, seven years old by the time I was.

Six years old. I think they were done because

Darrell did the first solo album three hearts

and the happy ending machine Which that's coming

up on its 40th and oh my god So yeah So continuing

on with our new tradition once a year Jesse and

I are gonna get together over the next couple

of years and talk about some hollow notes albums

right around sort of the time that each album

released 40 years ago and this time around it's

a little bit different because I didn't I mean

I've known about this for years but I remember

as a kid back then like oh this is uh greatest

hits wait aren't these guys brand new obviously

they debuted in 72 72 to 83 that's 11 years after

11 years you put on a greatest hits disc and

and all that but yeah this was as a kid this

was like all new to me this was not like I was

like okay cool didn't know man eater was a top

whatever number hit or you know didn't know all

this stuff and Rock and Soul part 1 we are talking

about the 2006 remastered version because on

the remastered version it has two additional

tracks so the original greatest hits album includes

I'm gonna do this in a funny way so don't correct

me because I know what I'm doing here but Sarah

smile she's gone rich girl kiss on my list you

make my dreams come true private eyes I can't

go for that no can do man here one on one wait

for me and Two new tracks cuz who the hell heard

about doing a greatest hit album with two new

tracks on it say it isn't so and Adult education

now in the track listing for this specific album

if you're listening to it on whatever you're

listening to it on whether it's a digital service

or an LP or a cassette or whatever. Say It Isn't

So is the first track and Adult Education is

the eighth track. But I remember as a kid looking

at the back of every version that my mom had,

she had it on LP, she had it on cassette. According

to Wikipedia, citation needed, but this was one

of the first albums to get a compact disc in

1983. or 84 or whatever the hell that happened.

And I remember the back of that album so much

because it said, here's all these songs. And

the track listing started with Sarah's Smile

as the first track. And then at the bottom of

it, it's like, plus two new songs. And I was

like, wait, what? So yeah, absolutely. And then

the bonus tracks from the 2006 remastered edition

was another verse. Is it the same verse? or a

different version of it. And I didn't know this

until like a year ago. Apparently, Family Man

is a cover. Ha! Gone my whole life, 43 years,

not knowing Family Man was a cover. And then

obviously, the amazing cover of The Righteous

Brothers, You Lost That Love and Feeling. So

that's what we're talking about tonight. Wow.

What were your... What do you remember from back

then, Jesse? Like, listen, did you, were you,

I know you've always kind of been a Bruce fan,

but were you on the cusp of Hall and Oates and

the MTV generation, or was it a little bit too

out of your age range? No, not at all, Mike.

I, you know, I loved, you know, and loved the

videos, was really, really happy to listen to

them. I owned multiple cassettes of their music.

Uh, so yeah, I was a definite fan. I don't remember

if I bought this greatest hits or not. I may

have had already, you know, the songs on, uh,

already on a cassette that I love. So I may not

have, um, what's, what's interesting, at least

to me, and I hope the audience is coming up on,

uh, an episode of perfectly good podcast. Um,

we discuss John Hyatt's first best of John Hyatt,

not his greatest hits because John did not have

quote unquote greatest hits, but the best of

John Hyatt that Capitol had put out. And Sylvan,

who's my co -host, talked about that she was

frustrated because you had to buy this CD to

get two songs that had never been replaced. Yeah,

you know don't know much about love and I can't

think of the other one, but we had talked about

don't love and so this is a thing Now I'm gonna

sound like an old man that the the man used to

do Right you for completist you would have to

buy this cassette or CD or collection Because

you wanted these unreleased songs Uh -huh and

because back then you couldn't go to your favorite

streaming service and just buy the individual

song and So that's what they would do to give

you the to give you an incentive To buy the greatest

hits they would throw us something on there that

oh Well, not only could I have some of my favorite

songs on one release, but I get these bonus things

and that's You know, and we talked about this.

I think I've heard this on multiple podcasts

that talk about music. Greatest hits releases

are not much of a thing anymore because that's

what streaming does for you. You automatically

can hear the greatest hits. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

it's nice if, if somebody puts out a, like some,

some band like Hall & Oates or like You know

take a drink Bruce Springsteen John Hyatt, whatever

even though John doesn't have you know all that

but You know, it's nice when they do like this

is a 40th anniversary like We're gonna give you

everything you've had for the last 40 years.

Oh, and by the way, here's this whatever like

Every time I swear every time Spotify Says hey

Darryl Hall released a new track. I'm like no

he didn't he did probably most likely but There's

another band that I listen to that I specifically

know because I follow the, it's a rock band called

12 stones. I specifically know that they haven't

put out music in X number of years, but Spotify

every once in a while will come up and say 12

stones, new single titled this. I'll click on

it and I'll be like, yeah, they're not electronica.

Like that's not what they are. So I pointed out

to the leads like literally I'm friends with

the lead singer on Facebook I'm like you might

want to do something about this or you might

want to have your people do something about this

because Spotify is saying 12 stones for the new

record and I know you guys didn't yet anyway

Yeah, but but yeah, I mean greatest hits aren't

like, you know We are our own DJs now when it

comes to online streaming music services, whether

it's Spotify or Apple or whatever people use

And this was a thing of the times. And, you know,

for me, all of these, like, I remember Maneater

is on H2O. Family man was on h2o, but that was

the that was a bonus track on this, you know

But like looking one of the things I really didn't

I have never liked as a as a kid as an as an

adult You know this we've talked about this at

length on other episodes, but just to remind

the audience I'm not the biggest fan of live

music recorded on an album If I want a live performance,

I want to be at the live performance I don't

want to hear I want to hear the actual studio

version of the song And I have never liked Wait

For Me. Never. 40 years, I've never liked that

song. Come to find out it's off of their 1970

-something album, whatever. And I'm like, oh,

I'll go listen to the album version. And I still

don't like the song. If you think about it back

then, it made a lot of sense from a marketing

level that you throw in an unreleased single

to try to get the dedicated fans. Then you have

the casual fan picks up that CD and then you

hope that they'll go, oh, I really like this.

Maybe I should go back to some of the earlier

albums and check out some of the other things,

right? Yeah. Some of the deeper cuts. So yeah,

absolutely. Yeah. And a lot of these tracks,

like, I only know that, like, I have... Where

I start with Hall & Oates is pretty much what

we already talked about with H2O, even though

I was only two years old. But where I start is

that. and 1984's Big Bam Boom. And that's not

necessarily where I stop with them, but that's

where I start. And then there's this, and I hear

all of these songs, and I'm like, oh, this is

cool. Yes, now, 40 years later, I understand

this is a Greatest Hits album, but at the time,

40 years ago, I'm like, oh, these are all new

to me as a child. This is cool, I like this.

Yes, I know Private Eyes is from the 1981 album,

Private Assault, same title and all that. But

it's just one of those things where hearing these

for the first time back then in this format was

really, really interesting and cool because when

was Sarah written? Sarah was what, mid -70s I

think? Yeah. I can feel you watching in the night.

All alone with me, I was waiting for the sunlight.

When I feel cold, you warm me. Yeah, so yeah

75 it was really Sarah smile was released in

in 75 so like I would have never known that I

would have never had like without this that's

again That's the cool thing about greatest hits

albums to me is that like you were saying a moment

ago They may make you go to the original place

that the music was originally and get some of

the deeper cuts But you can also go and see where

the song you like came from to be on that greatest

hits CD. Yes, absolutely. So really quickly,

let's get this out of the way. I remember two

versions of the artwork. I remember the gray,

yellow, and purple version because that's what

I had as a kid. And I remember the red, yellow,

and black version because I just remember that.

I do also remember the two of them. with the

CD with them just standing there in front of

the microphone which I did not know that that

was a shot that was a picture from the one -on

-one video because that's what the that's what

they're wearing the suits and the whatever that

they're wearing and that according to discogs

which I don't know how accurate discogs is but

there are 173 versions of this greatest hits

album Throughout multiple countries and I was

asking another Hall and Oats aficionado buddy

of mine John Lammerow, I'm probably if John if

I if I butchered your name, I'm sorry I was asking

him about this because he's also a Hall and Oats

fan and he's like, yeah I have no idea. So I

just started googling and googling and I found

this thing on discogs that I censored I'm like,

okay the only thing I can reason why there's

a hundred and seventy three different versions

is because it's in multiple countries and multiple

different catalog number listing. So you have

the LPs, you have the cassettes, you probably

have the compact disc, you have this, you have

that. But the artwork is all different in various

ones and I'm just like, I just want the purple

one. That's all I want. That's interesting. I

did not know that. I do not remember seeing different

versions You know, and, and I also think another

to give a young Mike a little bit of an excuse.

Um, you know, it isn't like the album says greatest

hits. Um, you know, it is named rock and soul

part one. So it could very easily have been,

Oh, okay. Great. Yep. Right. Yeah. This is just

another album. Yeah, exactly. And the funny thing

is, is By the time after Big Bam came out in

84. I'm like, okay. Well, where's rock and soul

part two? Yeah, exactly They would never have

a rock and soul part two, but it is what it is

Alright, so going through the the tracks here

what out of the 14 that you've that we've listened

to what are you give me your top four favorites

out of the 14 I love kiss on my list and you

make my dreams the two poppy songs. I just they

I love that those poppy songs. She's gone also

if I'm gonna do three so kiss on my list you

make my dream. She's gone was one of those that

as I was listening to it, getting ready for this,

you know, I was like, boy, that got a lot of

airplay. And I'm kind of tired of it. You know

how their songs you go, I've heard so much. I

don't want to hear again. Uh, you know, but.

You know, to start out, you know, you're listening

to this and you go, wow, they had a lot, a lot

of chart power. Yeah. They do, they do catchy

pop rock and roll. I mean, this is very much,

you know, singles driven, catchy songs that you,

it's fun to sing along with. If you're someone

who likes to dance, it's someone it's fun to

go, you know, to dance with and yeah. So how

about you? What would be the top three that you

think of? You make my dreams just because I hear

that song all the time. I've got it on my faves

playlist that I've had for over 20 years now,

or however long it was since 2006. I have always

loved to say it isn't so. I don't know why, but

I just really dig that. Yeah, and then Probably

it's it's gonna be adult education because I

don't know what the hell kind of adult education.

They're trying to teach but Yeah, man, that is

one catchy tune Yeah, that's that's awesome Yeah,

you know it so I sometimes people will say that

songs from the 80s age The they don't age well

the synthesizers The things I still I still liked

this album I you know when I was listening to

it This certainly did not feel like homework

This just felt fun to be listening to this music.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing of it is, is

I have, like I said, I have a number of Darrell

Hall and John Oates songs on my other, my faves

playlist. They don't always come up because I

use shuffle and shuffle is, is, you know, slave

to the whatever algorithm that Spotify decides

to give me or whatever. When they do come up,

it's like, oh, cool. I like this. listening back

to this I forgot how enjoyable this album even

though it is a greatest hits out because it doesn't

play like because again me being three four five

years old when they were at their top of their

game it was all new to me then it's kind of all

new to me now because I barely listen to half

of them nowadays most of the time so going back

and listening through this I'm like oh this is

a really Cool interesting fun. I remember that

song. I remember that song. Oh, what's this?

And then for me anyway, personally, it's like

oh Great one -on -one and wait for me like wait

for me the only reason why it's just because

it's the live version but listening to the the

non live version I still I don't know. It's just

like you were talking about. I like the we both

like the the more poppy the more upbeat and the

thing about their music is yes it's rock and

pop and whatever else but you mentioned the synth

they were like pioneers of synthesized music

they really were and it works even after 40 years

it works because it's not something anyone today

is really doing yeah so yeah i agree yeah are

there any tracks that you would probably skip

You mentioned Sarah's smile earlier, but what

are some tracks you'd skip off this? So I'm not

a huge fan of Maneater, though it was huge off

the movie, right? Yeah. Yeah. But not too much.

And since I've not heard this in a while, none

of them were these I feel like I needed to...

Skip as I was listening to a second time, you

know, I believe you know they There you lost

that loving feeling actually was a radio hit

for them. Wasn't it? Yeah Yeah, and I do not

remember family man this was one that I didn't

I did not recognize and You know was It didn't

leave as a big impression on me as some, but

I, you know, I've really the core group that

one through 12, um, that's, that's a solid lineup.

Um, you know, it, if you were a casual Darryl

Hall and John Oates fan, you know, you get any

of these 12, you get half of them in a live show.

You're feeling really great. Oh yeah. You're

getting, you're getting a lot of the hits and,

and obviously deeper cuts mean more to the more

hardcore fans, but yeah, that just, that is just,

oh man, that is just some great stuff. Yep. Yeah.

I don't know how you don't remember family, man.

We just talked about it a year ago. It's track

one on side B of H2O. As you well know, I do

a lot of podcasts and talk a lot of music. So

yes, I know. This man is more of a podcast machine

than I am. He just, as of this recording, just

completed 30 days of Bruce Springsteen episodes

on award -winning, over 1 ,000 -episode podcasts

that last day. Not even I can do 30 straight

days of record. What kind of drugs are you on,

old man? Yeah, it is. Luckily, the Dallas Cowboys

season hadn't started. I couldn't get baseball.

And yeah, it was it. And, you know, the TV writers

and actors were on strike, so not as much new

TV. Yeah, it was it. What's funny is I try to

do that every September. in honor of the Springsteen

birthday and my Set Listing Bruce anniversary.

And then in November, there's always that there

is a national podcast posting month challenge

to do 30 episodes in 30 days. I'm like, yeah,

I've already done that. Yeah, I can't do it in

November yet. Yeah. Oh, boy. Like, yeah, here

you go. Here, November, just go back to September.

And I already did this. Yes, exactly. Yes, exactly.

Yeah. There's so many. Wow. There's so many versions

of the, uh, lost this love and feeling like I'm

scrolling for days here, but yes, uh, it, it

did, um, seven weeks in reach and peaked at number

four, the Hall and Oates version stayed there

for one week. Uh, song stayed on the top 10 chart

for six weeks and remained on it for 13 and also

reached number 55 in the UK singles chart. And,

you know, it's a classic. It is a standard. It's

a rock standard. But I think they made it their

own. I think they did a good job and kind of

took care of business themselves. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah. I love their harmonies. And I think it's,

you know, if you're going to do a classic, I

think that's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's

only, like, when it comes to covers, like, Had

never heard like we'd mentioned last year. I

never heard the original. I didn't even know

family man was a cover I thought it was all in

those original. It's not it's a it's a Outfield

or whatever cover Mm -hmm, and that's fine, but

I love their version. I I love their version

of it I love the original righteous brothers

version of you lost at love and feeling very

classic I think Hall & Oates adds their, I don't

want to say edge, but their style to it in the

sense of their whole rock and soul thing. But

you can still listen to their version and be

like, oh, this is kind of like The Right. It's

not The Righteous Brothers note for note kind

of thing, but it's one of those things where

you can't mistake them, but you're not going

to turn either version off if you like both of

them. Some of the other ones, like you said,

I like Kiss On My List. I was surprised that

this, like, I know the original, the way they

initially put the track listing on the back of

the whatever, started with Sarah Smile. But if

you start with Say It Isn't So, Sarah Smile,

She's Gone, Rich Girl, Kiss On My List, You Make

My Dreams, those six songs, that's pretty, you

know, you always talk about Bruce Springsteen

and what story he's doing with his concert. and

the tour that he's doing. Those six songs seem

to be a story to me. Somehow, even though Sarah

Smile is Daryl's song for his then -girlfriend

at the time, Sarah Allen, and She's Gone is about

John losing his fiance or girlfriend or whatever

on New Year's Eve, and then you get Rich Girl,

Kiss On My List, and You Make My Dreams. You

Make My Dreams feels like an exclamation point

on the other five songs. I could see that. I

really could see that. Yeah, I think that's well

said and then The rest of them, you know, you

go you go from you make my dreams to privatize

adult education I can't go for that. No can do

man eater one -on -one and wait for me I'm kind

of Okay with one -on -one. I'm kind of okay with

it. I get it. I see where they're going with

it. I like the story in it but They've even said

themselves. I can't go for that is it's it's

not about any really it's about the record business

itself It's about dealing with the record companies

and all that Maneater what I've heard is that

it's about the city eating you alive and I could

be wrong in that but Like it's not some chick

out to you know, get some guy screwed up kind

of thing. It's not you know, whatever But and

I like those But I don't like them enough on

this to like every once in a while. It's fine.

I like main eater where it is on, on H2O. I think

that's, that's perfect for it. Uh, so yeah. Yeah.

One of the other podcasts that rocking the suburbs,

uh, that the Patrick and, um, Justin. Yeah, no.

Why am I drawing a bank on their things? But

the hosts, Patrick, do a thing called perfect

pop songs. What are songs? And I think his semi

list would be on that list. That is a song that

is just a perfect pop song. It's just the melody,

the lyrics. that it makes you smile. It's just

a lovely pop song. Yeah. So Darryl and John are

on vocals, keyboard, synthesizers, guitars. They

were doing everything. Darryl was on the vibraphone

in the arrangements. Yeah. Yeah. Charlie DeChan

on keyboard, saxophone, and additional backing

vocals. The late, great Tom T -Bone Wolk. uh,

keyboards, guitars, bass guitar, additional backing

vocals and arrangements, GE Smith lead guitars

and Mickey Curry on drums. Mickey Curry on drums

is a master. That man can do no wrong when it

comes to the drums for a Hall & Oates song. Cause

it just, it's just so good. Yeah, really is.

And they're so You know, I love the idea, just

the idea of this one hit after another and I

now, I'm gonna go back and listen over the next

couple of days and kind of see it that the whole

idea of are they telling that story and read

it from that story. I think that's pretty cool.

I know. I could be wrong, because I'm usually

wrong about a lot of things. But when I was listening

to that, I was like, wait a minute, because you

say it isn't so, and it's doing what it's doing

and all of that. And then Sarah Smiles, she's

gone now. Obviously, like I said a moment ago,

Sarah Smiling, she's gone. They are not. One

they're not two sides of the same coin Sarah

smile is a dedicated love song to his like I

said then girlfriend She's gone is about a breakup

and it's not the breakup of the two of them because

they would go on Daryl and Sarah were together

for four years before they ended up splitting

up And then you know, so she's gone rich girl

and then kiss on my list you make my dreams You

know you can kiss on my list and you make my

dreams those two as a as a double -shot powerhouse

like yeah Like, again, from say it isn't so,

you make my dreams, like that's just, it just

seems like the, and again, I read into a lot

of stuff, so I'm probably wrong, but it just,

when I was listening to it today, I just kind

of like got this like literal light bulb over

my head, luckily it didn't fall on my head, but

you know, light bulb over my head, and I'm like,

wait a minute, what's going on here? And then

I realized, and I was like, I get it and you

know greatest hits even though this doesn't well

like you said doesn't say it's a greatest hits

but let's face it it is they in every words described

as a greatest hits desk and I still no matter

where I am if I hear the I don't even need more

than one chord Jesse if I hear the first chord

of you make my dreams I'm just like yep okay

stop whatever I'm doing Let's just start listening

to this cuz I love this song and I know it was

in I think it was is it that song that's in like

whatever that 500 days of summary or whatever

that movie was like some of their songs Maneater

is a perfect example Even though that was on

h2o, but it's here grace Mitchell Did it for

did a cover of it for the Walter Mitty movie?

She only comes out at night The lean and hungry

type Nothing is new, I've seen her Never had

neither good nor bad feelings towards man eater

my entire life, but I heard that version of it

I was like, oh wow Okay, I like this song again

kind of thing but in the in the context of of

rock and soul part one, it's a It's a seven and

seven ten because like normally you would skip

songs normally, okay, I've heard Sarah smiled

too much. Okay, sure. Fine. I've heard she's

gone too much. Okay, fine But you get to ones

that you haven't heard in a long time like this

for me listening to this as an album Not and

yes again, like you mentioned Most of these versions

on here are these singles versions. They aren't

album versions from whichever out, but you know

It was the time 83 84 health all the way throughout

the 90s Record companies loved singles, loved

A -sides, loved B -sides, loved doing all that

kind of stuff. And you put a collection of singles

together that at least seemingly the first six

of them through my own neurotic whatever is telling

a story. And then you listen to the back eight

and it's like, oh, this is a cool song. This

is a cool song. Even the ones I'm not that thrilled

with, except for the live version one. I was

like, oh, yeah, I can't go for that. Trash, nope,

not happening today. Laundry, nope, see you later.

Even though I know that's not what the song's

about. But it's just one of those things where

it's a good 14 tracks. It really is. It's solid.

Yeah, it is. And not always is that the case.

There are a couple of songs that you might go,

eh. But in this one, I absolutely agree. It is

a really, really well done, you know, collection

of songs. Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Are there any

that you will add to your regular rotation off

of this or are there any that you already have

in your regular rotation? Yeah. Um, as I talked

about kiss on my list, you make my dreams. If

I'm doing it up to be like, if I'm doing a, let's

say I'm making an old fashioned mixtape, but

except it would be in a, you know, an iTunes

playlist, you know, I would have those on there

when I'm wanting like walking on sunshine by

Katrina and the waves, you know, a couple other

songs that, especially if I'm trying to do a

non Bruce, um, you know, playlist, you know,

just to cut things up, just to shake things up.

I would have those on there for sure. But I will

tell you, Mike, this was fun homework to just,

I put it on Spotify. I just had it. I had it

on repeat. You know, I just listened to it two

or three times and just was enjoying it. Yeah,

absolutely. Yeah. I thought it was really nice.

Yeah. Yeah. There aren't, cause like we've already

talked about, not trying to repeat myself and

ourselves too much, but normally Greatest hits

discs you like one or two songs off of it You

will take those songs and add them to whatever

playlist so you could have those songs and obviously

playlist nowadays like you said before recorded

on a cassette or whatever in the olden days but

Man these I forgot I didn't forget but like because

it's like people say to me, people will look

at me and be like, Mike, TF2 and Mike, why are

you a Nickelback fan? And I'm like, because I

like the music. I don't care about whatever other

bullshit anyone else thinks about them. I like

the music. But in the playlist that I've curated,

back when I was still using iTunes, when I used

to use Apple products, back in 2006, 2007, 2008,

when I first started podcasting, Started this

I was like, okay, if I'm purchasing at that time,

I was purchasing all the music individually I

has a dollar 29 download or whatever the hell

it was Yeah, you know I'm like if I'm doing this

I'm making this major playlist that has everything

I have ever wanted to listen to on it. No matter

what Right when I switched to Spotify in 2017.

I'm like, okay, I need to I basically spent normally

on a PC at the time that was as old as mine was

you really couldn't have iTunes and Spotify open

at the same time because the computer would be

like we don't want to do that but at the time

I was able to copy over just finding ever like

that that playlist has I don't even know how

many it has it probably has let's see here does

it give me the it's It has 1 ,468 songs, and

it's 96 hours and 24 minutes. Yeah. And I've

had those same 96 hours and 24 minutes. And I've

added things to it over the years, obviously

kind of thing. But most of what's in there is

stuff that I, when we were doing a lot of the

Bruce stuff, when I was doing a lot of the set

listing Bruce stuff for you, or when I was doing

the John Hyde, I'm like, okay, like even now.

going back and doing some John Hyatt stuff. It's

like, all right, I'm going to have that to my

favorite playlist. Yeah. Like, oh, Bobby Jean,

I remember that from a TV show. I'm going to

add that to that. I just keep very rarely do

I ever take anything off of it. Now, that doesn't

mean I don't skip things for like, I don't, you

know, next, next, next, whatever. But very rarely

do I ever take anything off it. And this this

greatest hits thing is just. It's not just a

crazy. It's an album by itself where I agree

it it has songs on it that are doing something

that I don't think they ever intended and I know

Darrell is said and I think John has said several

times in their careers that Song interpretation

is up to the listener even though we know Sarah

she said it in her in the VH1 behind the music

thing they did years ago You know he he wrote

that song he sent it to me or he gave it to me

or had me listen to it and I viewed it as a love

letter It's a love letter to her because it was

about her Yeah, like like, you know, but like

adult education or kiss on my list I'm sure there

are plenty of players out there who have plenty

of kisses on their list kind of thing You know,

you could take the any song not just this album

but you it's all about interpretation of the

listener and how you want to feel about it and

and most of this album is Field she's gone to

the breakup song, but it's a how is it a feel

-good breakup song Jesse like you hear that and

even though it is about The man losing his heart

on New Year's Eve of 19, whatever state is 70s

80s something You hear that and I'm not crying

not laughing, but I'm not crying I just yeah

these songs man just Like you were saying, you

know, you listen to it today. We listened to

it earlier and I've been listening to this off

and on like the past week just to make sure I

have it fresh in my head from when we're going

to do this. And 40 years. Wow. Just, yeah, it's

a great album and you have to have the, the,

the 2006 bonus version because family man is

a nice palette cleanser. Like if I was, yeah,

I don't. I often take albums and make playlists

out of them just to excise certain songs, but

I would most definitely make one for this, and

one -on -one would happen, and then Family Man

would happen, and Wait For Me would not be there,

but I forgot that on the bonus track for the

Ringmaster version that Family Man, and then

I knew You Lost That Love and Feeling was there,

and I'm just like, I haven't listened to that

Hall & Oates version in a long, like I'm adding

that. It's just fun and that's all we need we've

needed I mean the world's been through a lot

of crap in the last three and a half to four

years and even though we're Kind of sort of almost

maybe out of a lot of the most of the Bad stuff,

but there's still a lot of stuff going on. There's

still a lot of ramifications from what happened

Like people have all kinds of emotional. I'm

gonna say bullshit, but it isn't bullshit. It's

like emotional problems, heartache, heartbreak,

whatever it is, or, you know, even, you know,

my own neurotic abilities and whatever else with

stuff that I do sometimes, but it's like, I listened

to this and I was like, at the end of it, like,

damn, I'm a little happier for listening to this,

even though some of the topics in some of the

songs are supposed to be sad. You know, and that

is beautiful when music Can do that You know

when you can sit there and listen that's just

really really good stuff and and I think you're

right I think that to have that ability and To

make things better to feel a little better. It's

such a gift that music does that for us Yeah,

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322. I don't know what's coming up next. I have

no clue. We will find out. I do know Steve Megatron

and I are going to be doing something called

Obsessive Compulsive Geek Disorder, so OCGD.

Steve's not having problems, but he's... He's

brought this topic to me of the need of wanting

things or needing things or, hey, I had this

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do next year, when Jesse and I get together for

Big Bam Boom, I already have it. But was it last

year? And it's only to have it, because I don't

have a record player. I went on eBay, and I bought

the LP, because I love the artwork. Even though

I can't play the damn record. I just love just

seeing it there So yeah, I think we're gonna

do something called obsessive compulsive geek

disorder Before we get out of here before I run

through the closing Jesse's zero to five with

half points because that's the way it's supposed

to be What would you give rock and soul part

one? 1983 40 years So thank you for embracing

the half point I always have. We've always had

them. Yes. So I'm going to give this four out

of five not listening to friends' advice. Yeah,

I'm right there with you. I'm going to give it

a four out of five. And the only reason why I'm

giving it a four to five is I'm taking one point

off, a half point for Wait for me and one -on

-one. I guess it's okay, but it's one of the

more slower ones on there So it's not one that

I really want to go back to all that much. But

other than that the other 12 tracks are absolutely

amazing We probably should do some research into

the whole my idea of the story of the song for

the first six tracks that yeah at some point

I guess but for now So this is going to be coming

out, actually, the anniversary date of the album,

October 18th, 2023. What have you got going on

in your podcasting world, sir? So on October

18th, as we are very timey -wimey, I just dropped

an episode with Claire Sanderson from the UK.

cellist, a violist, and she is a brand new Springsteen

fan. She had never been a fan. And Ian Beesby,

who is, um, a friend of the podcast, sent her

a, they had gotten to be friends. He, she sent

him a link to a Bruce song and she is now become

obsessed. So she is this, um, as an adult finding

Bruce and kind of going through her deep range.

So Claire's episode came out on 10 -17. And coming

up on 10 -24, I have an attorney from the Tampa,

Florida area that has seen Bruce multiple times.

And we had a great story. He had a couple of

great stories about seeing Bruce in Tampa. So

that's what I've got coming up in October. Awesome,

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