What Do You Do When Your Favorite TV Shows End?

It's gonna be fun. We can stay up late swapping

manly stories and in the morning, I'm making

waffles. Hey, this is Steve Bloom, and you are

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are tuned in to Steve Megatron on Altered Geek.

Hello, and welcome to Altered Geek. I'm your

host, Steve Megatron, and joining me on this

adventure into geekdom is TFG1Mike. I'm the great

one. Thank you very much. Yeah, what he said.

See, I could not curse on this show if I choose

not to. I know. There was another individual

that did it as many times as he possibly could

in a 30 -minute span to see how much I would

edit. You know what's funny, folks? If you go

over and listen to the latest episode of All

Things Transformers, which is us talking about

toys, Transformers toys, we're, what, 13 and

16 years, 15 years into podcasting now, the two

of us? Like, I think you're 15, I'm 13, whatever,

anyway. I've been going since 2005, 2006, 2006,

2007, somewhere. Well, whatever. So anyway, the

point is at this point, I think we can reveal

this kind of stuff. I have flaws too and I break

down and I do things that I shouldn't do and

yada, yada, yada. Hell, the last couple of podcasts

I recorded, I have to edit myself, edit out myself

eating on the show because I just lose my mind

and I'm hungry. I need to take a bite of this

candy bar. But anyway, Steve says a lot. What

do you mean? I'm going to kill you. That's not

my name. Yeah, well it is now. It's Steve -um.

It's not Stake -um. It's Steve -um. So in the

last episode of All Things Transfarmers, I dialed

down his ums and I put the Cheetor gun sound

from Beast Wars over the top of it. Mm -hmm.

Hey, he made me sound like I was making farm

animal noises when I was cursing an altered geek,

so turnabout's fair play. Darn it. I'm fine with

it. No, no, no, I know you are. I think it's

hilarious. Honestly, if somebody has that much

time to sit and edit me into that, like great.

So anyways, it's been a while since we've had

an episode. Yes, yes, it is. Thankfully, this

podcast hasn't had the issue that a few of our

ones from way back in 2008, 2009. Well, you know

what? We took fair use to extremes. Yeah, back

then. Well, back then, nobody knew what you were

and were not allowed to do. Yeah. It was pretty

much people just did whatever they wanted and

then just let the chips fall where they may.

And unfortunately. For me and you, for all of

us, we were like, these songs are cool. Let's

put them on the episode. Yeah, you know, since

we're talking about the movie that's associated

with them anyway, let's just do it. Yeah. And

fast forward to 2021. Turda copyright take down

notice. So, yeah, I. Mistakes were made. Yes,

yes, there have been a lot of mistakes in the

last 12 years of this network So we're attempting

to go back and make it right now Something I

noticed is I was going back because M wire is

a huge culprit a Huge culprit and it's not just

you I did it too because there were episodes

that I edited and ones that you edited and I

can Tell who edited an episode based on the output

Yeah, I don't know who did what? But I do know

that the output has either been at the minus

zero range almost peaking or they're at the minus

12 and it just kind of is random and depends

on the episode. Yeah. Some of the things I noticed

too is we'll have everybody at the minus six

and then JT from Saskatoon is on there and he's

at minus zero. Yeah. So that's that's a dead

giveaway that. Leveling back in the day was not

our best. We actually didn't do any leveling.

I know I never did. No, none of us did. And so

what I was doing while I'm going back, removing

music from the episodes, because one, I don't

want to redo any of those episodes or the conversations.

It would take far more time to rerecord all of

it. Yeah. And I don't care to do it again. So.

It's a dead show like I enjoyed it and I enjoyed

the conversation and a lot of the thoughts behind

some of the episodes are still true today. Yeah,

but. I'm going through and I'm scrubbing any

music. Usually like yours are pretty. Standard

when you go to a break, you would throw it to

a song. Yeah. Or you'd end on a song, which makes

it super easy to edit. Yeah. When I edited. Didn't

have that See, that's the difference though.

Like okay, so when I start I would start I would

I would there was some that I ended the episodes

and there were some that I started the episodes

or I had them like at the beginning somewhere

the trailers I had to be careful because some

of them have music in them Yeah, so if they had

excessive music if I did not hear Talking that

was specifically trailer oriented or movie oriented.

I wiped it because and I'm only through I've

got the first 10 episodes re -edited, re -exported,

re -leveled, and I'm working on the second 10

episodes 11 through 20 where we have a couple

of .5s in there. So I'm still scrubbing through

those and trying to optimize and fix that to

make them more listenable. Plus, I don't want

to get it, you know, obviously what we did back

then was wrong. It was we were we were just excited

about the music that went with the movie. And

so we were like, hey, let's play this clip. And

it wasn't just like a snippet. We played the

whole song. But yeah, yeah, no, exactly. You

have to get the permissions. You have to do this.

You have to do that. You have to jump through

all these hoops. And honestly, the thing of it

is, is, is for me. I came from listening to podcasts

where people fully said, Hey, look, we're using

fair use here. We're discussing this. We are

reviewing it. So we are going to play this for

you kind of thing. So you can hear what we're

like a couple of old podcasts used to put in

old radio dramas kind of thing. Well, unless

you were going to hunt down the radio drama,

you're not going to know what the hell they're

talking about. So they put it in. Kind of thing

and I still use clips and I still use things.

I try to make them not as long as they used to

be. Yeah, I've I've just aired on the side of

caution because everything I've seen is far as

the podcast industry is concerned. There's no

general consensus of what's allowed and what's

not and what's fair use and what's not, because

nobody has been made a example of out of it.

So I would rather not be that one. So, oh, no,

absolutely. Yeah, the the interesting part with

it is is that even in the conventions in the

a lot of the webinars a lot of the live streams

from people that are in the know of podcasting

say it's better to err in the sight of caution

just not do it unless you get the licensing itself

and To be honest, I agree with that Yeah, they've

been kind of saying that since 2016 and that's

when I ultimately had the cutoff of I'm never

doing this again and You were a little bit more

able to based on some of the contacts you had

but At the same time it was it was still less

than what it used to be although we even flagged

for mayhem mics for the intro music It's probably

the intro music, because don't get me wrong.

I love everything the man has done, and I appreciate

everything he has done for me and for us and

for everything. But TV's Mr. Neal, when he made

the Mayhem Mikes intro, part of with him introducing,

whether it's Ryan and I at the time or Mike the

Birdman, Mike the Birdman and I at the time.

See, now you got me frigging doing it, you jerk.

He has like, oh, do double G and it has part

of a theme song from one of the wrestlers that

that goes, you know, so that's pro and it only

got flagged on one episode. And I'm surprised

what I'm really surprised is since I restored

to cast episode 10, I'm surprised to cast hasn't

gotten flagged yet. Not to jinx it or anything

like that, because I think I think television

themes are a little bit more acceptable. Right,

so. Whereas if it's like a regular song or like

musical composition that yeah, yeah, it's episodes

or right. Yeah, no. Well, the reason yeah, the

reason why I say. I'm surprised to cast episode

10 has never gotten flagged. Well, number one,

it had been missing for a good chunk of the last

13 years until I finally found a good, because

that episode is four hours, 27 minutes and change.

The reason why it's four hours and 27 minutes

and change is because it's two hours of Optimus

Solo and I talking about He -Man and She -Ra.

The other two hours is DVD special feature audio,

where the actual producers from one of the old

DVD sets. was talking about the show so it's

more it's not necessarily going to get flagged

if it does because of music but because a dvd

special feature again going back to the radio

play thing like that's why but yeah four hours

27 minutes which i actually broke that record

this year we now have a podcast oh what i wouldn't

be proud of that long of a podcast you know what

it just depends on how good it is I there's no

way I would sit and listen to a five hour pop

podcast. Just saying. Well, that's that's you.

Most people don't. It depends on the content.

So anyway, Toycast 100 comes in at four hours,

51 minutes and 35 seconds. You know how I know

that? Because I spent 15 hours editing the damn

thing. Anyway. Yes, the podcasting landscape

has changed. Yes, we have learned things and

we are trying our best to be on our best behavior.

Hell, there are some episodes of the pull bag

and other things that I've recorded recently

where I'll say, oh, this makes me think of this,

but it's too bad I can't put the audio in here

because if I did, I'd get sued. Pretty much.

Tonight we got to talk about some TV. Yeah well

Actually before we get into the TV portion. Oh,

okay. Sorry we could talk no no no it's fine

We can talk about some of the new mergers or

purchases of studios Yes, one of them being it's

not surprising that Amazon Is trying to purchase

MGM yeah MGM has been in, I don't want to say

fluidity, but they have been in... They've been

shopped around quite a bit. They've been shopped

around quite a bit, but they've also been in

the lion's shithole for the longest time. And

this is a studio that was... Very prominent this,

you know when you think when you this is one

of the originals. Oh, yeah No, absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's one of those studios that

it's right up there with Columbia It's right

up there with well TriStar is no longer a thing,

but I the studios I remember as a kid in the

80s MGM Columbia TriStar, I think Orion was one

of them not necessarily a huge one, but it was

one of them You know, so it's like, oh, Jeff

Bezos is now going to potentially bid nine billion

or whatever it is for MGM. Oh, no, that that's

going to be. I don't know. Everything has changed.

This is what I try to tell people. So I'm in

several different true crime television groups

on Facebook. Most of them, two of them are related

to what retired Detective Lieutenant Joe Kenda

of the Colorado Springs Police Department from

1973 to 1996 had done. And these people that

watch his show Homicide Hunter on Investigation

Discovery and Discovery Plus, as well as the

new show that he's doing, American Detective,

they, oh my God, Discovery Plus, why do we have

to pay to watch it? Why can't it be on? and every

time i see anyone and i don't know how old these

people are male female whatever it's on facebook

so i see that one you know i can see that they're

male or female or whatever but it's one of those

things where when i see a comment that someone

is saying why can't i just watch it on id why

do i have to pay more and i'm like television

The industry that is television, and the film

industry as well, is constantly changing, evolving,

and growing to a point where you're not just

gonna be able to watch it on a television or

a cable network or this or that. Things are changing.

Look at the landscape we live in now. We have

streaming services, we have this, we have that,

and it's so funny we're talking about this now

because I still have not edited Studio 19. Anyway,

everything is at our fingertips now. Whereas

30, 40, 50 years ago, we would have to wait every

week to watch an episode of Valf, or Knight Rider,

or A -Team, or Stargazers. And some things we

still do. Right. Well, yes, because some of the

streaming services are trying to get back to

that weekly content, so they have people come

back weekly. When, you know, when Netflix first

started, it's like, here, here's all of it at

once. Like, buffet. I honestly prefer that because

then it gives me the opportunity to blitz it.

Yep. Because I've noticed I've noticed, too,

that sometimes if people don't have a streaming

service, they will sign up for the free trial.

Yeah, they will blitz the show after it's done

and cancel the free and then cancel the free

trial. Yeah, it's like I would. I would rather.

I mean, if I'm already a subscriber, I would

rather just have it all there anyway. But it

I mean, that doesn't stop people from blitzing

it and then canceling the free trial, too. But

I think either way, you're you know, you're going

to have your people that are going to stay subscribed

and you're not. And if it's just for one show,

like I have zero interest in getting Paramount

Plus. I got a free trial to that. Had a CBS all

-access free trial when that was new and it was

dog snot Okay. Yeah, but that was CBS all -access.

Yeah I mean you do get Paramount's entire catalog,

which is nice Yeah, but a lot of what I watch

that they would have Mm -hmm is old and everybody

else has it anyway Well, here's the thing So

there was this giant misconception when Paramount

Plus was announced. Once again, everybody's like,

oh, another stream. No, it is not another streaming

service. CBS All Access folded. Oh, I know it

did. No, no. I know you know this. I'm just saying,

so in case anyone hears this podcast in 50 years

and still thinks that Paramount Plus was yet

another new subscription service, it was not.

It was CBS All Access being folded into what

is now Paramount Plus. Now, I will give Paramount

Plus one advantage. They are the only streaming

service, to my knowledge, that you can pay for

to pay to not have ads. that you can watch every

single season of the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja

Turtles cartoon. Hmm. It is streaming nowhere

else. I mean, if it is streaming elsewhere and

I'm not looking that up right now, it's like

in 2B TV. It's not on 2B. I know it's not. But

I'm saying it's on cartoons. Yeah, it's on something

like that, but it has ads kind of thing. But

yeah, MGM, I mean, MGM and Amazon. Oh my God,

that would be. Well, my my college professor

put in the the media group that of people that

were in that program at that college He puts

Amazon wants some more toilet paper and battery.

So it bought MGM studios and and He linked to

a YouTube video about it from CNET That says,

you know what Amazon's MGM takeover means for

you. It says you'll get to stream You know, and

they they list a bunch of properties and this

is well, it's complicated because what what happened

is is they actually don't have creative control

over their heavy hitters on their catalog. Mm

hmm. And they sold the rights from their golden

age. Oh, no. So like my teacher from that from

that college class is. It's not crazy if you've

been following them They never got back on solid

ground after TV took over in the 1960s and 70s

and Lewis B Meyer died They have been bought

and sold a million different times over the past

50 years and it went into full bankruptcy in

2010 That is why there is MGM casinos and other

stuff which are totally separate entities Major

investor Carl Icahn sold the catalog to Turner

classic movies a long time ago, which then years

later was bought out by Warner. Icon also owned

a big piece of Chrysler Motors and did something

similar to them. But in recent years, MGM has

become very good at creating scripted TV. So

basically, it's just all over the place. There's

things that they don't own the rights to anymore,

even though they originated it. So I see it very

much as one of those scenarios where You know,

Disney or not Disney Marvel before they got in

the moviemaking game, sold all rights to certain

characters to certain studios and don't own any

of them, technically, as far as, you know, video

media is concerned. They lost those rights until

they revert back. And so I think Disney bought

Marvel and Disney bought Fox. And yeah, so then

they own it anyway. Now they just need to buy

Sony and then they've got a gaming system and

they own Spider -Man again. So anyways, it's

kind of mind boggling when you go to look at

it, all the transformations of it. But it's crazy

when a tech giant that already has its own Amazon

Studios is looking to be purchasing MGM. And

then we have Warner Brothers Discovery. Yes,

Warner Brothers Discovery, which AT &T lacks

vision. But I mean, I'm happy it's going to Warner

Brothers versus sticking with AT &T. But here's

the thing. OK, so they have Discovery Plus. Is

this new thing? And I've read this article and

doesn't seem to say anything about Discovery

Plus. They just launched. Discovery Plus. Discovery

Plus has over 55 ,000 episodes of stuff from

HGTV, Discovery, whatever is under the Discovery

banner, it's all there. So now I'm wondering

with this Warner Brothers Discovery, are they

going to fold Discovery Plus into that? And I

don't know. I don't know. AT &T has kind of this

weird, I mean, Warner Brothers has, you know,

DC things they have. I think don't they have

HBO? Or is that somebody else? No, that's Warner.

OK, so they have that they have, you know, the

discovery plus AT &T has got some version of

a streaming thing. Then there's. Time Warner.

Time Warner is essentially dead. Honestly, I

mean they don't really. I don't know where. That

like time Warner isn't even a thing anymore.

Well, it says AT &T and discovery Rocked the

industry on May 17th by unveiling plans to combine

discovery and AT &T is time Warner assets into

a joint That would be spun off as a separate

entity. In other words, they're ditching the

part of time Warner that they don't want Yep,

which is pretty much everybody but I find it

funny that Warner media is Basically now like

Warner Brothers discovery. I don't know. There's

so many different names to all these that it's

just it makes it confusing Yeah, so I am looking

here on Wikipedia and the first thing I pulled

up was HBO Max HBO Max's parent company is WarnerMedia

under their under their things Time Warner and

Time Warner Entertainment 1990 -2001, AOL Time

Warner 2001 -2003, Time Warner 2003 -2018, Second

Incarnation, AT &T Acquisition, WarnerMedia 2018

-2021, and now with this new. I'm wondering if,

because this now includes Discovery, if Warner

Brothers Discovery is going to be the one new

app where everything is. Hey, as long as I can

still pay $7 a month for ad -free investigation

discovery network stuff, I don't care. That's

fine. It's like I've been saying ever since the

first episode of whatever show it has been on

the GCRN that we talked about streaming services.

I want one or two things that have everything

I want to watch. The reason why I had Netflix

and later Hulu at the time and I still have Netflix

and Hulu is because those things had at the time

everything I wanted to watch and watch and watch.

Now we have. Insert name here plus post Max Superfly.

Jimmy Snooko, whatever kind of thing. So if.

everything is going to fold into Warner Warner

Brothers Discovery and I only like I only have

to pay one thing for all of their like are they

gonna are they going to fold HBO Max into that

because they just launched HBO Max earlier like

recently I'm like really seriously I don't know

it's a whole thing folks it's a whole that the

streaming Wars are not really streaming wars

anymore because as astro train runs through my

backyard, the streaming wars are not wars anymore.

The streaming wars are who's going to have the

bigger streaming stick now? Who's going to have

all the content? What's the one place you can

go for the all the content that you really, really

want? Yeah, I mean, I'm. I used to be of that

mindset of, yes, please give me a la carte. And

they did. But now everybody's got their own a

la carte. So, yeah. It's crazy. It's changed

quite a bit in the last 10 years. In the last

10 years? Hell, in the last five years, in the

last two, it's changing. Rapid television is

changing. more rapidly than we can keep up with

it. We went from, and I know nobody wants to

remember this, but HD DVD versus Blu -ray, and

then we were at HDTV. I forgot about that. Yeah,

and then we're at HDTV, and then we were at Blu

-ray, and then we were at, now we're at, instead

of HDTV, we're at 4K TV and 8K TV. 2020 KTV and

whatever it's television ever since the invention

of the television happened the history of the

television and what is on in it on it or around

it is constantly changing the fact that I can

go to this little device that is maybe a 6 by

9 inch screen. I don't know. But I can go to

my Samsung Galaxy S9. I can pull up my entertainment

folder. Netflix, Hulu, Discovery Plus, Disney

Plus, YouTube, Amazon Prime, Peacock. I have

all these things at my fingertips that I can

watch all this content on. And yes, it is only

a smartphone. Yes, it's not the biggest screen

in the world. Half the time I'm laying in bed

falling asleep to forensic files. So... It's

not like I'm needing, although I would love to

have, and actually I do have a big 55 -inch television

that my lovely ex -wife, that's a story for another

day, folks. Karen and I are still together, but

it's a long story. You don't want to hear it.

But I have to refer to her as that because if

I don't, Social Security will come after me and

say, well, whatever money she makes, we're going

to take anyway. So it's one of those things where

I... I'm at a point where television and the

content of television has gotten to the point

so far that I want it at my fingertips and we

are now there where I have the content I want

at my fingertips. This ties into and we'll get

to that in a minute. This ties into the actual

topic we're going to talk about here in a few

minutes. About you know, what do you do when

a show or what? What is going to be the topic?

We talked about saying about five minutes time,

sir What do you do when your shows that you're

invested in are done when they end when they

cease to be? Speaking of ceasing to be Jupiter's

legacy canceled, but Netflix has already ordered

a spin -off This is from TV line This is, as

of this recording, June 2nd, 2021. Happy birthday,

Peacock and Carmichael. According to Deadline,

however, the streamer is keeping the franchise

alive. So Jupiter's Legacy, it's got one season

on Netflix. Our lovely Canadian fellow friend

up there in Canada, Alex Ricci of ThisWeekInGeek

.net. turned us on to this show. It got canceled

after one season, but they're going to continue

the franchise or universe of Jupiter's legacy

by giving it a super villain show called Super

Crooks. So I had said this to you because another

buddy of mine, David Draper from Toy World Order,

Dave is an avid, avid toy collector. Dave has

an entire basement filled with toys. He's been

collecting for the past 30, 40 years. And Dave

posted this on, he didn't post a link or anything,

but he posted this on Facebook. He says, Well,

Jupiter's Legacy, I guess it's good that you're

not ending on a cliffhanger. Oh, wait, you did.

And I'm like, ooh, it's Sheldon Cooper from Big

Bang Theory with alphas. I'm not calling you

that, Dave. I'm just saying the first thing I

thought of when I saw that post from Dave, I'm

like, uh -oh, somebody going to call Netflix

and say, Netflix, you better bring that back.

You done screwed up bad. Yeah. So the topic.

Go ahead. Respond to this and then we'll get

to the topic. Why cancel a show if it's actually

good? Yeah. Like if it's actually good, why go

to the trouble of canceling it? I just I don't

get it. Anyways, so what do you do when your

shows that you've invested so much time in? of

your life. Mm -hmm. End. I go back to season

one and start them over again. Good night, everybody.

That's a crappy answer and you know it. No, but

honestly, it's true. Alright, so I will prove

this to you, okay? Once again, on my lovely mobile

phone where no one has to hear mouse clicks.

Thanks. Phone clicks I can go to my TV section

on on Hulu specifically because that's where

I do this Even though one of the shows supposedly

expires on Hulu on Saturday Rizzoli and Isles

Dharma and Greg Animaniacs Tiny Junior Ventures

Let's see what else numbers You know these okay,

so numbers specifically I'm going through what

is probably my Upteenth close to 20th or 30th

watch through of all six seasons of numbers Because

I like the show Yes, the show ended it actually

ended on a good note. There are a lot of shows

like alphas like Firefly that end before their

time What do you do when that happens? You move

on to the next thing because you can't control

the fact that that show got canceled. But I rewatch

stuff more and more. Yeah, I like, for instance,

I was watching Last Man Standing and now it is

officially done. Yes, it is. And I was at the

end. Was happy I get to watch it and all of the

things that have happened I mean it was canceled

and then revived on on Fox and then ABC or and

then Disney bought Fox and then so they essentially

own the same program they canceled once before

Yeah, so that I think they were just like let's

go out on a high note. Let's do it now Before

they get us again, yeah, and I don't know I like

when arrow ended I was left with this, like,

okay, I've had my fill of superheroes. I was

watching all of them. I was watching Batwoman.

I was watching Black Lightning. I was watching

Arrow, the Legends of Tomorrow, The Flash, and

Supergirl. And now I find myself in this conundrum

of, as some of my shows end, I don't really feel

like Inclined to pick up new ones unless they're

like limited edition series or they've got like

a limited run Yeah, and in what I mean by that

is I've stopped after the the massive crossover

that they didn't I stopped watching this. Yeah,

I stopped watching That woman I stopped watching

black lightning I stopped watching Supergirl

I Arrow was done It left me with the flash and

legends of tomorrow and to be honest Legends

of tomorrow. I'm fairly lost on it and I'm almost

to the point. I just don't care anymore. Yeah,

and The flash I'm almost the same because their

villains on it are really Lackluster and I think

that's why like like the Tom Cavanaugh like he

played Harrison Wells like up team million versions

of him and then you thought he was done and then

he came back as the original one from The the

one that was murdered by the night of the accident.

Yeah. Yeah, so I Was it was interesting seeing

that happen to and then you've got Cisco lost

his powers and he's got the gauntlets and then

he's He's leaving and then So, I mean, in some

regards, I see the natural conclusion coming

to some of these fairly soon and having to start

fresh, which is why they've got, you know, the

Superman and Lois series and they've got some

other ones that are coming. They've kind of soft

-rebooted Batwoman. Yeah. I liked the first season

of Stargirl. I thought that was really interesting.

I am enjoying the hell out of Superman and Lois.

haven't even watched it yet because it's just

fallen off my radar right and I and I understand

that I the reason this isn't just like I was

why I was going to watch it anyway because I

wanted to see how they did the show but I also

listened to my buddy Michael Bailey and his BAM

crew They have a show called the Superman and

Lois tapes. It is Michael along with his friends,

Bethany and Alison. So BAM, BAM crew. And they

talk about every episode. So as I'm listening

to this podcast, I'm watching the show. I watched

the show, obviously, before I listened to the

podcast. But it's one of those things where I'm

enjoying Superman and Lois. Ever since Karen

and I got together, I Supergirl season one and

two were okay. Supergirl season three to five

were just awful. They just, they had some moments

of delight, but the emotional crap that's in

that show sometimes is just god -awful. Batwoman,

my only problem with Batwoman, the first season

of it, was They did the Alice storyline throughout

the entire Season that should have been seven

episodes and done and moved on I Never wanted

to see Alice and her mouse and wonderland or

any of that other bullcrap ever again Which means

by season two? I don't know what's going on.

I haven't watched it. I don't care So yeah, I

am right there with you. I and for me like If

a show ends, like you said, Last Man Standing

ended. Like I said, other show, like Nash Bridges,

Nash Bridges ended in 2001. I wish it hadn't,

but it did. Well, 2002 comes along, and I have

the shield from FX with Michael Chiklis. So for

me, it's more about to answer the question again

in a different way. What do you do when your

shows that you get invested in end? I either

go back to shows I've already watched and rewatch

them, or I try to, like, I am huge into true

crime television. Forensic Files, and I know

I've mentioned this on this show before, Forensic

Files, anything HLN does, anything Investigation

Discovery does, Homicide Hunter is easily my

number one favorite show. Because it's nine seasons

of this one detective's cases and the way that

he approaches police work and the way his story

Happened and is shown on the show Like I fall

asleep to this guy every night because I listen

to both of his audiobooks to put myself to sleep

I know them that much. I know The content that

much forensic files don't get don't get me started

Forensic Files was on the air for a number of

years. It was narrated by Peter Thomas. May the

man rest in peace. He's been dead, I think, since

2016. But Peter Thomas has this voice. And what

I will do is, because we can't put any audio

in the podcast anymore, I will find a clip on

YouTube of Peter Thomas narrating an episode

of Forensic Files. And I will embed it into the

geekcastradio .com website post of this episode

of Altered Geek. and show you guys if you don't

know who Peter Thomas is, this is who Peter Thomas

is. He has one of those narrator voices that

if you already know the case, if you've seen

Forensic Files so much that you know within like

two seconds, and sometimes I will say this because

there are pretty bad cases on there at times,

because they're so godaw - like, um, the, uh,

oh. Karen, what's that case? The doctor! Sartorius

there's a doctor Peter Sartorius or something

or other on there and it's like every time they

show that episode Karen and I just groan Because

we know we've seen it so many times So that's

the point here is that because I've seen that

one show so many times I can put it on his background

and fall asleep to it and That's what I do with

my TV watching and I watch things and I read

things and I listen to things to review them

for podcasts. If anyone has listened to the last

few episodes of The Pull Bag, I will say I don't

read comics just to read them. I have a comic

book review and discussion podcast. I want to

give you folks who are listening to this my most

honest, fresh reaction. So, anywhere from 2 hours

to 12 hours before I record an episode of The

Pull Bag, I am sitting here, listening to some

music that goes along with the comic, and reading

that comic. So by the time it gets to the recording,

I am super fresh, I know everything about the

comic that I can remember, and you'll have a

fresh emotional reaction. That's just the way

I do my entertainment these days. I don't just

do the things just to do them I do them because

we're running this podcast network hopefully

not into the ground and We enjoy talking about

the things that we Like reading watching listening

to you know, whatever You know you guys went

on this whole big camping trip recently That's

you know, that's another discussion we could

do at some point kind of thing like, you know

Oh Steve went on a camping trip this weekend.

What did you do? You know, you know what? I mean

that you know that kind of thing So my whole

approach to podcasting and I said this over on

geek cast radio is kind of changing I am No longer

wanting necessarily to be the news reactor person.

I'm no longer really wanting to sit through 130

episodes of a cartoon series to talk about each

individual episode if I watch a 13 episode Cartoon

series on Netflix and we talk about that whole

season all in one go sure fine. I'm great You

know It's just one of those things where after

doing this for almost 13 years I need to find

a different way to do it in a way that's gonna

keep me invested and interested in wanting to

be able to do it and I'm working on that you

know you said at the beginning of this how I

do the whole narrator big boom and I cut to things

and I do this and I do it's because I listen

to a lot of narrators and I've picked that up

and I've adapted that into my style of how I

do the podcasts Yeah, and and I totally get that

And for me as far as what I do when something

ends I go back and I watch ones that I enjoy

that they don't necessarily have to feel invested

in So for instance, I may watch You know old

Star Trek episodes whether TNG deep space 9 Voyager

the original series Enterprise. I never go back

and rewatch any of the modern stuff relics Well,

yeah, I I don't watch I don't watch Picard I

don't watch discovery I don't watch lower decks

and it's not because I don't enjoy aspects of

them I just don't enjoy them on a whole and because

they're they're not episodic I Can't I can't

just put on an episode and enjoy that episode

and just be done with it. Yeah, it it's one of

those scenarios where once I've watched it, that's

it. It's a serialized show. I loved Prison Break

when that was on, but it's a serialized show.

You can't just pick up a random episode and watch

it. You have to watch the whole season. and or,

you know, if you're later on, you have to watch

everything that came before because you won't

understand it. And so, like, to be honest, like,

I I just prefer the standalone episode stuff

now. And the serialized not that it doesn't have

a place, not that it's not good. I just I don't

think there's a lot of rewatch ability for for

the content. Now, in some regards, like I I have

had shows that I've I've dropped because of just

them being over. I had picked up like like I'd

watch the Mandalorian while that's on. And then

after it's done, I'm done until the next season.

Same thing with like I watched WandaVision, but

that's pretty much a one and done. And and then

Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I watched that.

And now I'm watching the bad batch and the Mighty

Ducks game changers more so the game changers

more so because I just want to see how Gordon

Bombay plays into it. Have you finished it yet?

I'm still I got one episode left. OK, I'm not.

Entirely sure. I mean, OK, so if we want to do

and I'm just throwing this out there balls to

the wall. If you watch the last episode before

next week or next month or whenever you want

to do another Altered Geek, it's up to you. Let's

do an episode on that show because I have a lot

of thoughts on that show. OK, now Falcon and

the Winter Soldier. I did love how it ended.

Yes. And spoiler for anybody that hasn't seen

it yet. Falcon becomes Captain America in his

suits. Awesome. He takes the shield. And then

they they made Carter. Yeah. Oh, Sharon. Sharon.

Yeah, they made her bad. Yep. And then Bucky,

they they redeemed him, too. Yeah. Now Falcon

and Winter is amazing. I absolutely love that

and I know a lot of people are gonna say this

once I say the man's name but Henry Jackman who

did I think the X -Men like first class and that

kind of score The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

music is Amazing. I love those scores. They're

so awesome Yeah, Falcon in winter was great.

I need to actually go back and watch all six

episodes again Just for enjoyment kind of thing

and that's the kind of thing I can go back to

just like I can go back to numbers or I can go

back to I Don't go back and watch every episode

of this But I go like you were saying I go back

and watch various episodes of the old Knight

Rider show I go back and watch one or two episodes

of the Knight Rider reboot from 2008 Every once

in a while, I go back to the A team kind of thing

because the A team is badass. You know, so it's

more of a what do we do when our shows end? We

either and I don't do a lot of new TV. I think

I don't I don't either. It has to be something

I've invested some other portion of that property

to care like so like the revival of The Mighty

Ducks that that was an obvious grab. So I rewatched

the three films, so I was familiar with it. And

then with the story, because I hadn't seen them

in a long time. And then Falcon and the Winter

Soldier was obvious after Endgame because of

the Marvel. Yeah. So I mean, a lot of aspects

came into play for some of these shows. And so,

like, I know that there are one and done. I have

no issue with watching them. Same thing with

like the the Transformers War for Cybertron series

that Netflix is doing. I know that it's its own

standalone series. There's, you know, six episodes

a season. And then it's done. And I know that

after that, I'm I'm fully done with it. Like,

there's no ongoing. To worry about, yes, there'll

be another show possibly taking place after the

war for Cybertron that connects with the same

continuity. Yeah, but I don't. It's not another

season of war for Cybertron. It's whatever is

next. Yeah, I mean, so it's a lot of these shows

like I just don't feel the need to pick up a

new show. And the other thing about TV evolving

is, you know, I mentioned earlier that numbers

has six seasons. Well, numbers came out, I think,

in 2005. I think it ran from 2005 to 2010, 2011,

something like that. But it has six seasons.

So in six seasons, most of the seasons have somewhere

between 20 and 24 episodes. Same thing with like

The Flash and Supergirl and that kind of thing.

When they first started, you know, they had 20

something episodes. well ever since netflix and

hulu and everything else did these 13 or 26 or

8 or 6 or what tv the other way it's evolving

is the fact that they're giving us more content

in the episodes than you would normally get on

a like an nbc cable nbc broadcast show with advertisements

because They can dedicate more time to it and

have less episodes like the 8 episode arc or

the 13 episode arc. That's the other part of

TV that has evolved that not all shows now are.

Oh my God, there are 22 episodes of this to watch.

So yeah, I just there's a lot that's changed

in the TV landscape and I just find I Don't care

about a lot of it I Will say before we I don't

know how you're gonna wrap this up or anything

like that But I will say before we go the one

new show And then I had interest in that I watched

that I cannot wait until the eventual second

season happens whenever it does happen is Upload

from Amazon. That's the one with Robbie AML.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I think you'd

like it. I don't know. I basically funny is I

just recently stumbled on that by accident. I

told you about it when we first started Studio

2009. But anyway, go ahead. I remember that.

Yeah, I remember you doing that. I just I'd forgotten

about it. Mm hmm. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah, so I think

that's the newest new show that I've watched

that isn't a franchise that isn't attached to

anything that isn't a reboot or a redo or whatever.

I cannot watch the Bad Batch until I finish Clone

Wars and I start and finish Rebels. I'm in the

middle of season five of Clone Wars and holy

crap, Darth Maul. Oh, my God. Wow. Darth Maul

and Savage. Clone Wars. Oh, okay. Yeah, when

you watch Rebels, you see how he goes away. Oh,

I'm sure. Right now I'm seeing how he returned.

Ah. So, yeah. Robo legs. Yeah. Little crazy,

little disgusting, whatever. Yep. But yeah, I

mean, TV is fluid, folks. In my mind, it always

has been. It's always changing, and there are

always new and interesting and different ways

to discover stuff or not discover stuff or go

back to things that you used to watch. Anything

else? Go ahead. Well, and that's why I just prefer

to watch the old stuff, because I don't have

to feel invested. Can just watch it for the enjoyment

or for the theme of the episode? It's like the

old man one of the old men old man characters

in In one of the Pixar films there ain't no school

like the old school That be true so in this episode

post be sure to let us know what you do when

your shows that you've spent a lot of time in

and Whether it be pick up a new show, re -watch

the same show, watch other shows. Just what is

your methodology? Let us know. Send us feedback

at geekcastradio .com or comment on the episode

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media at SCP -21 and yourself, sir. At TFU and

Mike. So until next time. Get altered, get geeky

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