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Wrestling Tag Team Tournament Round 2

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is your GCRN Awards
Tag Team Wrestling Tournament with your host,
Optimus Solo. Money isn't everything, it's the
only thing! And featuring, TV's Mr. Neal. The
whole wrestling world is gonna stand up and take
notice! And, from Simplistic Reviews... Hello
and welcome back to another episode here at the
GeekCast Radio Network of GCRN Wars. That's right,
we started a war last week, a tournament of the
best tag teams of all time, and we need to continue
that war because it has not been settled yet.
There's not Only one tag team remaining standing
yet So we have to take another step towards that
goal and I am not alone to do that Returning
from last week are two of so we have my tag team
is fully intact Um, but it it's not a it's a
handicap match I guess this week because matthew
you are flying solo this week I'm flying solo.
Yeah, the cream always rises to the top. Yeah,
the cream is to the top right here That was my
really horrible macho man. But I feel like the
mega plot powers have imploded. Yeah, basically
we had we had an NWO style hostile takeover and
we had one of our very own plucked away from
us doing his best heel turn. DJ Valentine will
not be with us. He's he's become a traitor. He's
he's. Still working for the company, but he's
on the other network. So, uh, I don't know what's
going on with that. We'll have to do some behind
the scenes, uh, wheeling and dealing and, and
maybe lay the smack down on them in the locker
room to bring them back to our side for next
time. I don't know what's happening. Is there
regular or longer blaze taking the title to another
network and throw it in the garbage? Basically,
I feel like that's what he did. So he's gonna
have to explain himself next week when he comes
back and make up for lost time. Also joining
me as he was last week is TV's Mr. Neil. Hello,
Neil. Hello, I'm a tower of power too sweet to
be sour. Like it I like when you guys come prepared
with this stuff. It's excellent. I don't even
ask for this guy This is free work. They're doing
for us. I love it so obviously last week we unveiled
all of the first round matchups and then we We
took it to the internet took it to the fans took
it to the listeners and said help us figure out
who should move on in all of these different
matchups and we did that in a couple different
ways actually new for us here at GCR and wars
because Typically what we've done in the past
is we've gone strictly to our website put the
polls on there and that is the only where people
were allowed to vote. What we did this time is
we did take it to the website, allowed people
to vote there at the website, but we also took
it to Facebook. We did polls for every single
matchup on Facebook. They were scheduled throughout
the last... Weaker eight nine days whatever it
was and then we also put a handful of them about
half of the matchups up on Twitter too To see
if people wanted to vote on Twitter as well So
we have three different methods of voting and
then we added it all up and the whoever got the
most votes across all methods of madness Will
be crowned the winners Typically guys when we
do these wars the first round Ends up being a
whole lot of blowouts just because of the nature
of the beast and then we get closer matchups
as we go through I will say that this is not
the case this week because We had probably half
the matchups that were rather close and about
a quarter of the matchups that were within one
or two three votes total making the difference.
So it's interesting here. There's definitely
some upsets, some close matchups, and then your
typical blowouts as well. Matt, start with you,
though, before we start unveiling the results.
As you had a chance to look back, to think about
things, to think about who you voiced your opinions
for, to think about who was included and who
wasn't included, any reactions before we get
going that you pondered over in the last seven
to 14 days? I mean, I think we knew did a excellent
job of plucking these 32 tag teams out and then
later on I mean I was really listening to the
last week or the week before the first episode
and we mentioned a few like funny ones like the
headbangers and men on a mission and Something
body down is like these really like fringy tag
teams So I mean it would have been funny to maybe
see them, but I think we definitely from what
I said before we picked the cream of the crop
but There were a few other ones that I thought
of after the fact like why didn't we include
things like, you know We include the brothers
of destruction which was almost kind of like,
you know two superstars joining forces But we
didn't kind of include like, you know, let's
say, you know the mega powers or something like
that or Team hell no or something like that I
mean, I guess it's still based on kind of legacy
and how long these no tag teams were together
So I mean once I start thinking about 32 team,
I'm like, oh, what about the other? Tagging is
like how many other tag teams that have existed
over, you know the course of time But I think
overall the 32 that were picked were very well
curated sir Yeah, what I what I ended up doing
like we talked about last week. We do have you
know six or five different Rankings that we took
from the internet, you know different publications
whether it be magazines or websites or whatever
that had published them and and I tried to do
my best of Going over all five of those lists
and anybody that was on, you know, all four lists
or anybody that made multiple appearances trying
to include those as much as possible. Um, what
happened was is the, obviously there's always
omissions. So for example, I can tell you right
off the bat that there was one tag team that
was on three of the five groups that I left off.
Um, that being the briscoe brothers. I just felt
like there wouldn't be enough people that knew
much about the briscoe brothers to put them in
and they didn't rank in anybody's top ten. So
that was another thing that if any any of them
that are were on any of those five top tens I
basically included with one exception and you
already brought that up and that was the mega
powers. The mega powers was in rankers top ten
list. And then they didn't make like they made
one other list way down at like the 30 something
level 32 33 somewhere in there And we're left
off of all the other lists So it's kind of hard
when you have those two superstars that are pairing
up. We had some people on Facebook also Talking
a little bit about some of the other groups that
they thought they might want to see and on the
website So we had I want to Point out the three
tag teams that were brought up by the listeners
and skit your guys's reaction before we go to
the results So the three that were brought up
were APA New day and on Facebook side of things
the combination of Triple H and Shawn Michaels
aka D generation X And so I wanted to get your
guys's opinions on all of those and when before
we go to you guys just three caveats to that
degeneration x i guess the question would be
degeneration x in my opinion i guess is technically
a stable it's like the four horsemen it's like
the dungeon of doom you know etc etc so you have
a stable there and traditionally the tag team
of that group is in the tournament and that's
the new age outlaws not to say that triple h
and sean michaels did not also tag together and
not that there wasn't Tag teams that were labeled
degeneration X. So there was a little bit of
a blurry line there where I wasn't sure if that
should be included or not And then just for example,
like let's say the new day Obviously, that's
a more recent tag team They're currently still
wrestling not that a lot of people aren't currently
still wrestling But a lot of the ones that I'm
referencing to maybe shouldn't be Whereas new
day is still in their prime and still doing their
thing and and that's a hard thing when we do
these lists So what's your guys's opinions to
on some of the more modern ones? Have they had
a chance to? to solidify what their legacy is
or should we wait until they're done and before
we include those, you can go both ways. So Neil,
you haven't talked yet. What are your thoughts
on some of those things that have been brought
up? Well, I had agreed with one of the listeners
about the APA. I think there are certain tag
teams where they're not really known for being
champions, although I think the APA did win the
championship once, I think. But there are tag
teams that are more beloved than they are. And
they would, you know, be known for having like,
like racked up a massive title run. And I think,
I think a good case could be made for that. New
Day, I'll have to take their word on it because
that's, that's getting into like more recent
product. And I'm a little checked out at the
moment. What was the other one? The Shawn Michaels
and Triple H did Generations X. Oh yeah. They,
they did tag for a little bit. In fact, there
was a revival, I think about, I don't know. 10
years ago where they came back as Degeneration
X and they were the only two guys. And they were
tagging together a lot, but you know, don't really
consider them a legacy tag team. You know, kind
of like the Mega Powers, which we also brought
up. Mega Powers, interesting tag team, but they're
not really a legacy tag team. They're not like
these, they weren't really a tag team that was
thrown together to... It'd have a really long
run. In fact, the mega powers were basically
put together to be broken up. So Yeah, I Don't
know. I don't think I would put DX on the list
I think I think we got a much better choice and
new age outlaws for that many that them I agree.
Matt, you brought up a point, too, that maybe
it was a misstep in including the Brothers of
Destruction because that is a team like that.
So I could see the argument being that if you
include them, then you have to include some of
these other ones. To go off the list that I was
looking at just for reference sake, Degeneration
X did appear on two of the lists. It was left
off of the other ones. APA was on one list out
of the five that I looked at. And they were ranked
17th on that list and new day was ranked 17th
on one list and 40 44 on another list left off
of the other three lists So those were the types
of things that I kind of let sway my opinion
to try to keep my own personal biases out of
it The other interesting well, let me give Matt.
Let me give you a way to react to what do you
think about those teams? That were left off kind
of final thoughts on that I mean, it's funny
because we did include what was it the the other
tag team that Ron Simmons for the doom So, I
mean if we did a swap almost where you took doom
out and then you put in the APA, you know I'm
sure we would have been having a different conversation
of course, too And you know just according to
some just information. I just brought up I mean
seems like APA or the accolades whatever you
want to call them They won they won the tag team
titles, I think three times so right I mean they
do have some gold around there and they always
had like, you know, they were like the funny
gimmicky type I think is then that's when you
started getting fruit going damn and all that
stuff and you know You had to play poker and
just being like to kind of like the body guards
for everybody To Neil's point as well too with
new day. I mean they did break demolitions tag
team like, you know, they're win streak You know
how long they they held the tag teams, but I
mean it's also the era now too I feel with tag
teams where none of them are like I don't know.
I hate to say that none of them are pretty some
of them are memorable I mean, I think the new
day is more gimmicky with what they do, you know,
they're silly. They're goofy. They're colorful
They're good wrestlers on their own biggies and
a really strong guy really great wrestler You
know, Kofi Kingston has been wrestling for a
while and you know, Xavier Woods He's he's a
decent wrestler as well, too. But the the hot
new isn't the high quality of you know They have
good matches with the Usos, or they keep finding
the same thing over and over, just like Seamus
and Cesaro are the bar. How far down the rabbit
hole are you going to go by bringing up all these
newer? Tag teams, you know, you have to keep
adding on adding on adding on it's like let's
see what their legacy holds You know, they've
only really seen them fight for about a year
maybe two years or something like that Whereas,
you know, look at the guys like the bushwhackers.
They're around for 30 years But but I've been
to the Nils point as well too and your point
as well with the mega powers I mean, yeah, they
were created just to kind of create a storyline
So you got to pick and choose. When you only
have 32 tag teams. If you did 64, we couldn't
be talking. But 32, you have to be choosy with
who you're going to pick, though. another one
that i was kind of surprised that didn't get
brought up kind of in the same vein of the mega
powers or even like the brothers of destruction
that i could have seen people making an argument
for was something like the rock and sock connection
yeah they they did appear on three lists out
of the five but none of them were ranked higher
than 21 and so that was another one where it's
just really hard when you have people that have
been more successful or made more of a name as
singles how will they fare in a tag team tournament
like this and we had one of those in a couple
included, then we'll see how they fared. But
that was something, too, that I was trying to
consider when we were kind of going through here.
So what's going to be interesting to see as we
reveal these results is sometimes these results
will reveal a lot about how the rest of the tournament
is going to go. And it's interesting. Obviously,
Neil and Matt have not seen the results, so they're
not sure what's going on yet. But something that
sometimes can come out is if there's any types
of biases, maybe a time period, whether it's
classic, whether it's, you know, 80s, 90s, whether
it's more modern stuff. If there's a certain
thing that's gonna propel somebody if we are
putting more stake into belts versus maybe You
know just like you guys were talking about who
is more fun and who is more memorable that type
of thing So let's see what the results show about
that and kind of wrap up at the end with What
our reactions are to how things went I will say
that it's interesting because in sometimes in
some cases it looked like there was a bias against
classic teams But then there's other matchups
that go completely against that So it was like
I'm struggling to find a trend here and I'll
see what you guys think as we kind of go through
here So what we're gonna do we're gonna reveal
all of the results of the first round and then
in the second half We are going to look at the
second round matchups and give you our thoughts
and try to influence you guys to vote how we
want you to vote for The this I guess what we
would call the sweet 16 Around and who should
move on to the elite eight. So we're gonna start
on the left side of the bracket and just go down
and then we'll flip over to the right side so
on the left side of the bracket we will start
with a contest that well maybe we shouldn't call
it a contest that was our one seed the legion
of doom against the 32 seeded Quebecers 100 %
voting Each in the auto zoom that is a 100 %
to 0 % margin Legion of doom marching their way
into the second round I don't think we need much
of a reaction there that was expected. Let's
go to something that Maybe is harder to predict
right underneath that was our 16th seed against
our 17th seed So it's a little different than
1 in 32 now. We have 16 and 17 That's the closest
of any matchup in the whole thing And that was
the Russians against the Minnesota Wrecking Crew.
Neil, refresh people's memories on who you were
voting for in that one. I went for the Minnesota
Wrecking Crew. And Matt? I'm pretty sure I went
for the Russians just to, you know, be a little
weird about it. So interesting thing here. If
you were to go at the website, one team overwhelmingly
would have been the winners. If you were to go
to Facebook, the opposite team would have overwhelmingly
been the winners. I'm shocked. So it was very
close. We have a 56 percent to 44 percent match
up here. Basically just a couple vote difference.
The winners and moving on to the second round.
It's hard to beat the Russians. The Russians
are moving on past the Minnesota Wrecking Crew
by just a Couple votes fifty six percent to forty
four percent. So no upset yet. That is the seed
that was ranked higher maybe some Facebook the
Nikita Koloff lovers and the Whoever else it
was crucial crucial coming out and Full support
I was that actually happens multiple times here
throughout the time where Facebook goes one way
and the website goes the other way Sometimes
it lines up, but there's a couple times where
they're completely different. So it's interesting
there What was the total number of votes out
of curiosity goes between just those? Yeah, that
one was one of the lower voted on ones because
I think a lot of people don't know either team
Yeah, so we're talking about like 18 to 20 votes
there In that matchup we had some that were much
higher than that So maybe not a lot of people
knowing these guys I know I had one Facebook
response from one of the listeners that said
that they were strictly going off of the card
and Who had the belts longer and who was ranked
higher on the other groups because they didn't
know either team So maybe that was a situation
where that helped them. I don't know Neil are
you all are you feeling sad? Well Arne's still
in there in one other spot, so I'm not totally
depressed yet. Right. We have to wait and see
how he fares. But the chance of Arne facing Arne
is now no longer a possibility. So let's move
on down one to our number nine seed against our
24 seed. This was demolition against Mr. Fuji.
And I believe his name is Pat Tanaka. I could
be wrong on the first name there. Fuji and Tanaka.
Guess what, guys? This is not unanimous. So we
have an eighty nine percent to eleven percent
so eleven percent of people feeling semester
food you love but eighty nine percent of them
say demolition should move on so demolition not
having too much of a problem here in this first
round of match up that one is expected right
guys. Pretty yeah i would say so i think i think
that eleven percent was all on crush. I told
you he's gonna be the weak link in the Demolition.
That wasn't as much of a vote for Fuji and Tanaka
as it was against Demolition Crush. Yes. I like
it. Right underneath that matchup we had the
number 8 seed against the 25 seed, so very similar
to what we just had with 9 and 24. That was the
Outsiders against the Valiant Brothers. Apparently
nobody knows who the Valiant Brothers are because
nobody voted for them. So another selection 100
% outside just moving on one more for the good
guys. You guys here to see the Valiant Brothers.
Exactly. All right. So that is the top half of
the bracket there. We'll kind of go to what that
means for those guys heading forward and what
your thoughts are in a little bit. Let's keep
on moving though with the results down. One more
spot in the four seed against the 29 seed. The
four seed was the Rock and Roll Express. Very
heavily ranked on a lot of those lists that we
went of. One of them had them as high as four,
which is where they ended up on ours. And most
of them had them in the top 10, top 15. And they
are going against the Head Shrinkers. And this
is where it was curious rock and roll express
a little bit more of a classic old school team
head shrinkers a specific Time period we're talking
about just a few years in the 90s where they
were, you know, pretty popular obviously Some
of them went on and did other things etc. But
that was a four seed against a 29 seed and guys
This is our first upset of the day and it wasn't
even close 61 % head shrinkers 39 % rock and
roll express. So a four seed is ousted in the
first round by those chicken turkey leg eating
head shrinkers. What do you think? Oh, it's just
so funny. I wanted I wanted them to win so bad.
So I'm happy. But on the other hand, when you
talk about like these guys were ranked as far
as number four, the legacy behind these guys.
Sorry guys turkey eating Faux cannibals is what
we're going for not legacy at all. So you can't
I think we called it didn't we? Yes Pretty sure
we did that was our big upset on this side of
the bracket. Then we had one on the other side
as well Yeah, I mean 29 seed moving on past the
four seed. It was interesting It was a tie vote
on Twitter on this one one vote separation on
the website But double the votes on Facebook
for head shrinkers over the Rockwell Express
So another one heavily influenced by Facebook
there. All right Right below that we had an interesting
matchup the number 13 seed the brain busters
against the 20 seed the rockers Now we just looked
at a matchup right before this where we had a
classic rock and roll express You know, they
had been popular in some other companies, etc
Maybe before a lot of us started watching and
then we had the head shrinkers that were you
know, right in our alley You think you'd have
the same thing here because we got the brain
busters their classic Old -school team and the
rockers a lot of us kind of at least know a little
bit about But we do not have the same results
because the brain busters have 67 % of the vote
this time Situation it was clearly the team that
we knew more about with the head shrinkers that
seems like and then this one Did not fare as
well with the Rockers and we're talking about
double the amount of votes for the brain busters
here 67 % to 33 % Neil well, how do you kind
of consolidate or make heads or tails of that?
Well, I think the humanoids really went with
the with the correct team here Like I said last
week or however many weeks The Shawn Michaels
Marty Janetti both really good wrestlers But
this is not this is not prime Shawn Michaels
the prime Shawn Michaels comes later. The Rockers
are just kind of I Hate to call them a blip,
but they kind of were maybe they were maybe a
little more special in the AWA In the WWF they're
kind of watered down and they were just kind
of like this Tag team that you know kind of did
okay for a little while then started jobbing
a lot and then they broke apart with one of the
most famous episodes of the Barbershop one of
my favorites certainly that's basically what
they're known for right So I think I think I
think the correct team won What do you think
Matt? No, I'm with them. I think we all kind
of agreed on that show, too We're like the Rockers
are cool But you know, what's even cooler, the
brain busters. So, you know, what do you make
of that, though, in comparison to what we just
talked about with the head shrinkers annihilating
the rock and roll express? Maybe it could I mean
there could be a couple things in play I mean
there could be this like weird Senate cynicism
that we have is like rock and roll express That's
cheesy get out of here and the rockers We might
have the same kind of thing with that like the
rock and roll express the rockers They're both
out now and the brain busters. It's just like
a badass name like the brain bus I'm gonna bust
your brain and they were just a rough and tumble
tag team and I think people like the revival
a lot too So maybe people who? Thought like,
oh, why is it the revival when you're like one
because the revival jobs to everybody and they
never win anything and But it's a throwback team
and but people like aren't Anderson like this
was a classic aren't Anderson who was just I'm
aren't Anderson. I'm here. Just beat beat you
up. I don't care what it is and it's conflict
that clashing styles and I think this style just
kind of came through a little bit better than
the Rockers Rockers They're cool. But man aren't
brainbusters are way cooler than these guys.
So Neil, if we would have had the Brainbusters
versus the Minnesota Wrecking Crew at any point
in time, which we won't anymore, but if we had
had that matchup, is the right Arn Anderson team
moving forward? Yeah, I would say so. I'd say
you gotta give it to Brainbusters. Classic horsemen
line up. Half the horsemen, you got it right
there. Minnesota Wrecking Crew... I guess that
also represents Horseman, but I think Brain Busters
is just a little more iconic. Okay. Absolutely.
Let's move on to the last two matchups on this
side of the bracket. We had an interesting one
here because this is the first time that, you
know, we had a couple there in a row that were
like more old school classic versus 90s style.
Now we're going to have like more of a early
90s versus late 90s. So that's kind of interesting
to see how people would go. This was our 12th
seed against our 21 seed. That would be the New
Age Outlaws against the Money Inc. So Ted DiBiase
and IRS against badass Billy Gunn and the road
dog Jesse James How did you guys vote in this
one? I'm just trying to refresh everybody's memory
man. I I think it was I was kind of at an impasse
here because I like them both and I like the
nostalgia element of money, but I think ultimately
I went for the DX affiliated New Age outlaws.
I'm pretty sure I want that one. Yeah, Neil.
What did you say? Well, I had cashed in on Ted
DiBiase and written off IRS. I went with New
Age Outlaws. All right. So just interesting again
here, this is opposite of what we saw earlier.
So we have one vote difference on the poll and
Facebook was only one vote difference, only two
votes difference on Twitter. However, a landslide
on the website. The one team only got one vote
on the website. So that is why we're gonna have
a 66 % to 34 % win here for the New Age Outlaws.
So the New Age Outlaws doubled up Money Inc.
It wasn't nearly as close as I thought it might
be, because of the website mainly, but I thought
we might have a 50, you know, 55, 45, something
like that. But 66 to 34, that's nearly double
the votes for New Age Outlaws. But you guys guessed
it, you guys predicted it, that's what you wanted.
The panel should be happy And they will be fighting
the winner of this last matchup on this side,
which was our five seed against our 28 seed That
was the heart foundation versus doom So Quebecers
got no votes Valiant brothers no votes on that.
Those are the ones we've revealed so far doom
They got votes So 92 % only for the heart foundation
8 % for doom so heart foundation moving on so
we had a five seed had no problem the four seed
is out. Any reaction so far we're not getting
into the actual matchups that are happening now
but any reactions from who you've seen eliminated
on this side of the bracket run down real quick
with cobeckers out minnesota wrecking crew out
fujian to knock out valiant brothers rock and
roll express the rockers money inc and doom all
say goodbye neal any shock there. Not not a whole
lot you can't see it right now but i'm doing
the bread heart hand thing. Hey, how you doing?
Matt, was there any team that I just mentioned
out of the eliminated teams that you thought
might have had a chance to go on further? I mean,
the only one out of the group that could have
maybe had an outside chance would probably be
money ink just because of the gimmick. And it
seems like we like gimmicks so far in this countdown.
We like the head shrinkers. I mean, obviously,
we're a gimmick loving group here. So I find
that, you know, that's the only one that that
could have gone either way. But ultimately, I
mean, that's it. That's a tough draw for those
guys. So they just they just ended up running
into a. Buzzsaw of new age outlaws, but overall,
I mean, it's I mean I'm not surprised and it's
also showing who might be voting because all
these old timers are like Outside the brain busters
everybody else who's like older is out of here.
So yeah I will say this I will say this real
-life match. I would have loved to have seen
money inc versus the heart foundation never happened
Yeah, it's like and it was right in that era
too. It could have happened. It was perfect timing
almost but The other interesting thing on that
side is technically only one upset so other than
that the seeds somehow held up on that side so
I don't know if that means I seeded them correctly
or I just got lucky in that first round on that
side but Rock and Roll Express the only higher
seed that got knocked out so guess what that's
not going to be true on the other side so all
right let's go to the other side of the bracket
we're going to Let's start at the bottom and
work our way up like we did on the actual episode.
So the bottom right quadrant I guess if you want
to call it we had the six seated Hardy boys against
the 27 seed nasty boys Hardy boys nasty boys
Exactly Not much love for the nasty boys out
there. This one was one eighty eight percent
to thirteen percent eighty eight percent for
Hardy boys So some people voted for nasty boys
just not nearly enough. So Hardy Boys will march
on as the better boys there. No surprise there,
you guys both had Hardy Boys moving on as well,
correct? Yeah. Yeah, I would have I would have
loved to have seen Jeff Hardy get the pity city
though. I was just hoping for nasty boys against
bushwhackers. That probably happened in real
life I'm sure but I'm sure they partied. I'm
sure they partied before. Imagine a nasty boys
bushwhacker party. Oh boy. I don't want to be
there. At least not anywhere near them. The seed
in the matchup right above them was surprisingly,
in my opinion, surprisingly low seed for this
low high, not high enough seed for the Steiner
Brothers and an 11 seed against the 22 seed Steenboat,
Youngblood. No love for Ricky the Dragon as a
tag team, I guess. Maybe he'll fare better in
the top 100. Only one vote for the team of Steenboat
and Youngblood. Steiner Brothers, 94 percent
moving on. So no surprise there. Going up. How
about this matchup of 19 seed against the 14
seed? And this is the one that had the fabulous
freebirds against the natural disasters. Fabulous
freebirds, the team that became famous for having
three members. Being able to use any two at any
time and basically rotate them like they wanted
to depending on who they were facing Obviously,
that's been done a lot since but it had not been
done before natural disasters. There's not a
tag team in history I don't think that has weighed
as much as those two guys combined They're about
the weight of three people So it's a fair matchup,
I guess This was interesting guys because Twitter
had them just about even website went with one
team Facebook went with the other team One vote
separated the winner on this one. So one vote
more was cast for the Fabulous Freebirds. Oh,
my God. So a lot of classic teams getting ousted
on the other side of the bracket. One vote more
for the classic team here. Gimmick not friendly
on this one. Natural Disaster's losing. Matt,
what do you think? I mean, all we can do is.
Do do The exact same margin of victory that the
natural disasters had on the website was the
same margin that the fabulous free birds had
on Facebook Twitter though one more vote for
fabulous free birds than the natural disasters
Neil. What do you make of this one? Oh My god
people actually remember the free birds. Well,
they're iconic Michael PS Yeah, I could see it
happening. I knew it was going to be pretty close.
I kind of expected the money to go the same way,
but that didn't happen. So I could have seen
it going either way, I guess. For the record,
Fabius Freebirds were the higher ranked team
at the 14th seed over the 19th seed natural disasters.
Again, 52 % to 48%. That is close. Do you know
what's not close? When you put a match up of
the Dudley Boys against Public Enemy. That is
unanimous folks public enemy do not get a vote
from anybody 100 % they should even vote for
themselves. God, that's awful So 100 % for the
Dudley boys That means they're joining the road
warriors and the outsiders as the only clean
sweep so far So that is the bottom quadrant of
this side of the bracket Let's move on to the
top quadrant where we had another interesting
one classic versus Well, they were around from
the 60s, but most of us know them from the 90s
So this would have been the seven seed Midnight
Express Against the 26 seed bushwhackers. I believe
this is the other one guys Just like the head
shrinkers on the other side that you guys all
went bushwhackers. Am I remembering that correctly?
I think so. I pretty sure we did. Yeah All right.
Well interesting here the same amount of people
on the website That thought Midnight Express
should win equaled the same amount of people
on Facebook that thought the Bushwhackers should
win. However, Twitter once again comes in and
breaks the tie. We have a 55 % to 45 % on this
one. So that is pretty close here, guys. The
winners and moving on. Upset City, the 26 seed
Bushwhackers. 55%. Like putty in our hands. We
are the people that move, move the move the teams
around. For the record, guys, Midnight Express,
eighth ranked on Sports Illustrated, second ranked
on Den of Geek, 10th ranked on Bleacher Report.
What else were the eight ranked on New Arena?
Bushwhackers moving on. All right. Number one
in your heart. Neil, are we going to catch some
slack for this or what do you think? I don't
I don't know. Bushwhackers really aren't known
for being winners, but they sure stuck around
for a while. People loved them for some reason.
They probably had the most longevity on anybody
in the whole tournament. I can't imagine anybody
else that was around for more than 30, 40 years.
So do we just not like team names? Matt had something
he said, you know rock and roll and the rockers
But is it the rock and roll Express in the Midnight
Express? Is it the Express part or is it the
rocker part? I don't know. We don't like something
around that Express like what Express what do
you train? Do you have transportation units or
something like that? Like nobody cares I mean
the fact that none of us collectively could like
really remember one thing for the Midnight Express
I mean that that goes to show you where it's
like these guys at least to us aren't remember
I'm sure they have plenty of accolades, but you
know what the bushwhackers look people in the
crowd, baby. That's all that comes down to You
didn't like the bushwhackers. Do they have any
anybody that wasn't a fan? I think they had like
a hundred percent fan response They did when
they came out chugga chugga chugga. It was like
yeah bushwhackers are here. Like exactly. It's
amazing So that's like yeah go guys go go our
second upset of the tournament. We had the head
shrinkers on the other side We have the bushwhackers
on this side We'll have to see if there's any
other in the last final three matchups here We
had right above that the ten seeded British Bulldogs
Against the 23 seed brothers of destruction on
Facebook. We had a two -vote difference on Twitter
We had a two -vote difference on the website.
We had a one -vote difference So this is going
to tie the Fabulous Free Birds and the Natural
Disasters as the closest vote in the contest
with a 52 % to 48 % margin. Winners, moving on.
The 23 seed Brothers of Destruction over the
British Bulldogs by 4%. Matt? We were singing
we were all collectively pretty much singing
the praises of the British Bulldogs. We're like
they power They have agility, you know dynamite
kids awesome, even though he reminds these seven
care of another aggressor We don't like to talk
about we still probably won't talk about them
You know, and then you have the you know brothers
destruction and we were bringing up they know
we were talking about top of the show about the
whole August bringing together two superstars
for the sake of bringing together two superstars
and letting them do something so I mean it goes
to show you like what would happen if we included
more of those kind of pseudo gimmicky type Tag
teams in there would they have done as well as
the undertaker and Kane? But so Shawn and Michael's
not enough to carry the Rockers undertaker enough
to carry brothers of destruction I Mean Kane's
big too. I mean, yeah, I almost feel I mean and
we brought up last show Like I hated this version
of the undertaker biker undertaker sucks Kane
was always Cool. I mean, I didn't like him. I
liked him when he was talking with his like little
voice. My you're like, Hello, I'm your brother
type thing. So these are like, I think like the
two poorest iterations of The Undertaker in Kane.
Maybe that's why they paired them together. It's
like you guys aren't doing too well like single
let's collectively put you together and make
something happen. So I mean, I'm fine with this
but I hate being wrong. I think we all hate me
wrong Yeah, I mean I'm not saying that I've had
every single Reveal so far go the way that I
would have picked it not necessarily there might
have been one or two that I would have picked
a different way But but none of the results I
was necessarily against. Like, oh, you know,
I probably would have voted for this team, but
I can see why this team won. This one is probably
the first one I disagree with. I think the British
Bulldogs deserve to win in this one. Neil, what
do you think? It was kind of in the air. I kind
of guessed that this might happen, that the brothers
might might overcome the Bulldogs. I they're
just they're just. Four percent. I guess the
Bulldogs still got some pull. It didn't go like
the way that real life did though where the British
Bulldog gets to do like everything fantastic
and almost win stuff and just never win. I feel
like he was in a thousand Royal Rumbles and was
there for like number one until there was like
two or three left and then he'd never get to
win one. There was one where he thought he won
and he lost. What are you doing to this poor
gentleman? Typical British Bulldog. Baby boy
Smith. Poor him. Alright r .i .p Just throw it
in there just by the way, I mean he was facing
the undertaker so anyways two upsets in a row
There was only one on the other side. That's
two so far right in a row Let's see if that continues
or not We had the 15th seeded wild Samoans and
we know how well the Samoans on the other side
of the bracket did against the 18th seed Harlem
Heat 87 percent I just read a 15 seed and 18
seed. That's only a three seed difference. Apparently
people don't care. 87 % is for the winner. And
that would be Harlem Heat. So no love for the
Samoans on this side of the bracket. 87 % Harlem
Heat, 13 % Wild Samoan. So if you're a Samoan
fan, you'll have to double down on the head trickers,
I guess. Harlem Heat's moving on. What do you
think, Neil? Oh, absolutely the correct decision.
I love Harlem Heat. It's like when I switched
over to wcw in 96, I was like these guys are
awesome Matt, what do you think third upset in
a row? Yeah, that was that was a tough draw for
the wild smolens and having harlem. He'd be that
Low, you know 18 out of 32. That's gonna be I
mean That's that's that could be final four to
mature right there. I mean coming that depending
on who they I forget who they get next but I
mean definitely the right decision. I mean if
I'm gonna take one some own team I'm gonna take
the head shrinkers over the wild some Owens.
So but I mean sucka, you know So I got for you
sucka. I like it So the last one to be revealed
as far as results go for today would be our number
two seed edging Christian Against our 31 seed
the smoking the guns A couple things here. Number
one, we've just had three upsets in a row. Will
we see another one with the smoking guns? Or
we've had three unanimous votes so far with the
Road Warriors, the Outsiders, and the Dudley
Boys. Will we have another clean sweep for one
of these teams? It better be a clean sweep. Come
on, guys. I feel like there might be one or two
people voting for them. Billy gun voting for
himself because he wants to see the new age outlaws
Against smoking smoking guns at some point. I
mean we all want to see that don't we? Well,
apparently just as many fans that the nasty boys
have also were fans of the smoking guns because
this is not a clean sweep We have an 88 % to
13 % 88 % win for edge and Christian a couple
people out there voting for the smoking guns.
I'm sorry guys They are eliminated so edge and
Christian moving on so real quick Just like we
did on the other side of the bracket the losers
the leaving the tournament We will never see
them fight again. They will never have another
wrestling match the smoking guns the wild Samoans
the British boy Bulldogs, the Midnight Express,
Public Enemy, the Natural Disasters, Ricky Steamboat
and Jay Youngblood, and the Nasty Boys. None
of them we will see. Again, some big names there,
guys. Wild Samoans, British Bulldogs, Midnight
Express, Natural Disasters. Neil, what do you
think of all these teams leaving? I feel pretty
good about it. Bulldogs were really the only
upset for me. I think everyone else that lost.
deserved Matt any of those teams besides the
Bulldogs that you were pulling for are you fine
with them? Never seen a match from any of these
guys again I mean natural disasters would have
been fun fun little wrinkle to add to the tournament
But you know when you're that big you're gonna
go down hard so but it is funny when we think
about how we were kind of crap not crapping but
just kind of saying like ah with these classic
tag teams like the Midnight Express Rock and
Roll Express, but then we're all rooting really
hard for the British Bulldogs, which I still
consider and I know being a pretty classic tag
team, but it just might be because we do like
the Davey Boy Smith down the line because he
had much longer tenure as a single wrestler,
too. So maybe that's the thing, too. It's like
we remember. David boy smith like oh british
bulldogs are awesome. It's like were they awesome.
Maybe they weren't that good either, but david
boy smith was really good That's true. That is
true. All right, so that does it for the round
one results So that means we have our pairings
for round two we are going to take a 30 second
break and then we're going to come down and Throw
some more tag teams in the ring and see what
happens. So stick with us. We'll be right back.
Can you dig it? Can you dig it, sucker? Alright,
thanks for sticking with us guys. The bell has
sounded again. We have to make our way back to
the ring for more tag team action. This time
coming in the form of the second round of our
tag team tournament. Do you know what's funny?
I was just watching on the WWE Network to try
to prep for this and I've been listening to podcasts
about tag teams I was like, oh, let's throw in
some old -school stuff. This really had nothing
to do with tag teams But if it sounded like it
did when I clicked on it but there was a an old
WCW pay -per -view in which they did what they
called a lethal lottery and they drew names and
those whoever they drew had to be a tag team
and Then the winner of the tag team match both
of those people got to go into like a battle
royal And then the winner of the Battle Royale
get something. I'm only halfway through its mass
chaos I don't know what was happening in the
early days of WCW. Oh man Ted Turner's wrestling
network no rules, but I feel like that's what
we're doing here I'm like, okay, let's throw
some more tag teams into this tournament And
then what I mean the number of matches we would
have here this would have to be like a seven
-hour pay -per -view I'll wait the hour all our
nice seven hours. Anyways now nevermind. Okay
Let's go to the first match up in the second
round on the left side. Is that confusing enough
of the bracket? Where we see our number one seeded
Legion of Doom going against our number 16 seed,
the Russians. So the World Warriors or the Legion
of Doom, however you want to call them. Clean,
100 % unanimous victory over Quebecers. Do we
have another one coming here against the Russians?
Matt? I mean, this might be the end of the Russians
at this point. This might be their Stalingrad,
if you will. Sorry, I'm thinking of Billy Joel
for some reason. You never know, they could put
up a good fight and everything like that, but
it's hard when you are going against... to post
-apocalyptic football padwares, you know, crazy
guys who have a puppet as their other manager,
I guess, at a certain point. Remember Rocco?
He was he was fantastic. I mean, I think it's
just, you know, you can't deny how good the Legion
of Doom are. They're just they're cool. What
a rush. And they look awesome. The russians they
they squeak by um the I think we're throwing
them a little bit of a bone I think we wanted
to actually see this fight. We wanted to see
a bunch of lumbering russians Just get completely
beat down by Post -apocalyptic america, I guess
if you I mean I was hoping for the road warriors
against the minnesota wrecking crew because the
road warriors are from minnesota, so I believe
they're both from Minnesota. So I was like that
would be an interesting match I'm fighting some
of their own kind Roll around the snow a little
bit, you know, it depends Are they fighting in
the ring? Are they fighting in Russia? Are they
fighting in Minnesota? Are they fighting in a
post -apocalyptic wasteland? Are we just fighting
in? Are we fighting in Saskatoon? Canada, I mean,
where are we fighting here? I mean it depends
so but I'm still I think we're fighting in the
Thunderdome. Oh, well, well if that's the case
The Russians obviously no, but no, it's got to
be legion of doom. We had our fun with the Russians
Okay, now we're now we're getting down to brass
tacks get them out of this tournament before
they before they hack something exactly Don't
put this poll on Facebook. It's me bad news And
that's why they won last round exactly. What
do you think legion of doom clean sweeper? Is
somebody gonna vote for the Russians? I gotta
imagine somebody's gonna vote for that person.
I don't know why you would do that. You know
who's gonna win I think we got I think we got
a warmed over leftover from the Cold War here.
I think Team America is gonna pull it off Here's
my I was going with the Road Warriors 100 % Here's
my logic guys if we are in fact doing a tournament
of tag team matches the Road Warriors Or Legion
Doom, however you want to call them Just had
a cakewalk through the cool backers Like they
didn't even need to break a sweat to get through
that match. The Russians are coming into this
matchup hurt injured They just fought the Minnesota
Wrecking Crew like they barely survived. So not
only is it a tough draw, but they have to limp
in and fight a Legion of Doom team that didn't
even have to try against the Colbeckers. So that's
what I would say. Doomsday device pin. Exactly.
It's over. We're calling this one a squash. A
squash match. Just don't break his neck. As the
gorilla would say stick a fork in them because
they're done That is also guys the farthest seating
a part that we should well technically would
have it might not happen because of upsets But
that is the one seat against the 16 seats, so
Realistically if things went according to plan
all the other seedings would be closer That is
true for this next matchup because we're gonna
have a nine seed against an eight seed And I
am interested to see what you guys think about
this one for sure This is a tough match if I
could I could see this being a final four matchup
or something of that nature This is the number
nine seed demolition against the number eight
seed the outsiders That is tough there Um, demolition,
just to remind you guys, the lowest they got
or the highest they got ranked lowest. I always
say that wrong. The lowest they got ranked was
sports illustrated 23. Then they had a 15th rank,
a 13th rank, a seventh rank, and all the way
up to a two rank. Um, 698 days as WWE champions,
about a six year span as a legitimate tag team
outsiders. Left off of one of the rankings. Otherwise,
it was 11 9 7 and 6 and 475 days in the WCW as
champions Neil how do you Go about figuring out
a winner between demolition and the outsiders
and how close do you think this poll will be?
This is really close You know if this were to
happen in real life, I think the outsiders they
can they they out They also have the free bird
rule calling for them because they used to be
able to pull a box So he actually kinda counts
with them. I gotta go with the outsiders. I think
Crush is gonna hurt Demolition. I hate to say
that. Demolition is awesome, but once Crush became
a permanent member of the team, I think they
got hurt really bad. I tried to stay away when
I was looking at lists to try to help compile
the, the field of 32. I stayed away from any
lists that I knew were specifically biased towards
one organization or the other. So like WWE has
their list of best tag teams out there. And I,
I just threw that out the window because it was
going to be unfair to all the WCW teams, et cetera.
Um, but I did watch this last week, again, on
the WWE network, they have a top 10 tag teams
of all time where they selected the 10 teams
and then they let the viewers or the fans vote
on what order they should be. And Demolition
did make that list. So every time a new tag team
come up, you know, they'd spend five, 10 minutes
talking about them, interviewing some people
about them, et cetera, et cetera. So Demolition
came up and they did their whole little segment
on Demolition and not a one single person even
mentioned Crush. The entire time there was no
reference to a third member. They just talked
about the other two guys and their run. And that
was it. And then they moved on to the next ranking
team. So I thought that was hilarious. Matt,
what are you going to do with this one? Well,
you could look at this from a different couple
of different angles like if I'm thinking of demolition
Crush could be one of the two primary ones and
then you have repo man come in and help And so
that would be pretty awesome or if you're going
on the political side I mean could you know where
the outsiders really only champions for that
long time because of the backstage? Politics
and everything that was going on in the back
room and everything like that. Are they real?
Are they real fighting champions type thing?
I'm getting a little nerdy here, but I like it
So it's a and then now you got No, Fuji and Tanaka
are gone. So then you could bring Fuji back into
the fold and he could be thrown No salt in people's
eyes and with his bowler cap and everything So
you'd have a lot of cool things But then Eric
Bischoff will come out and he'll probably fight.
Mr Fuji or something like that to you and you
know ex pock or six pock will probably do like
spin wheel kick to get them get them both out
and then I Don't know and then you have what
was the Legion of Dooms finish finishing move
a lot of them. I mean That was doomsday. Well,
what was demolition? Was it like the oh demolition?
I didn't did they have a finishing move or they
just like you're dead Put put one guy over their
knee and then the other guy came up top rope,
I think yeah. Oh, that's pretty devastating I
mean the outsiders didn't really have a cool
Tag team finish move. I mean they had you know,
they had the jackknife power bomb They had the
razors edge which were the outsiders age. So
I don't know. I feel like potentially Even if
you have crush in there, little maybe interference
from repo man. They might have a chance demolition,
so I'm like I'm going to go with demolition here.
If I'm playing this scenario out correctly in
my head. Is Barry Darso going by the Mick Foley
rule where he can come out as any character he
wants? I think at this point you can't. I love
it. The other thing that you got to wonder is
will do people want to see something they never
got to see and that is. Demolition against legion
of doom in next round because they always claim
that demolition was a knockoff of the of the
legion of doom Well, they want to see those two
finally match up and finish this settle this
once and for all That would only happen if you
vote the demolition past the outsiders in the
next round. Otherwise, the NWO will have one
surviving team. Obviously, they only had one
entrance in the beginning, but this is their
only chance to make it further into the tournament.
So are there too many NWO fans out there where
outsiders are going to roll through on this one?
This is going to be tough to see how people are
going to vote. Outsiders may be a little bit
more recent. Maybe that helps them. NWO maybe
helps them. Demolition for a long time anybody
you asked and about WWE tag team champs that
would be one of the first names that came to
your mind so I Don't know. I don't know which
way I would go but I'm interested to see what
way the fans and the voters will go on this one
So we'll see anybody or really into leather Leather
spike leather How many Kiss fans are out there?
Is there many Kiss fans out there? That's the
question. Oh, yeah, were they more of a ripoff
of Legion of Doom or Kiss? I don't know. Let's
go down to the next matchup, which this is interesting,
because we had a little bit of an upset in the
first round here. So now we're going to have
a 29 seed against a 13 seed in the second round.
So that's interesting, obviously. This goes back
to the ones that you guys were pulling for early
We'll see if you continue to pull for them as
we go through here. We're talking about the 29
seated head shrinkers Got an early upset and
they will be going against the 13 seed Brain
busters. Hmm. So we have the head shrinkers And
the brain busters. What is it about the heads
with these guys? One wants to shrink your heads.
The other wants to bust your brain. So that's
what happened naturally on this one. So head
shrinkers. Didn't really make any list. I mean,
they were number 43 ranked on rancor, but otherwise
left off of all the other lists. We're talking
about Fatu and Samu, and they're going against
Arne Anderson and Tully Blanchard, who were 23,
15, 14, 12, and nine ranked and in the WWE Hall
of Fame and won belts into both the WCW and the
WWF. Neil, are you going to continue your Arne
Anderson love here or do the head shrinkers continue
to eat turkeys and turkey legs in the ring? Well,
only one team can win this spot and that spot
is my spot So I'm gonna I'm going Arne Anderson
horsemen brain busters 100 % Matt agree or disagree
Isn't that funny when he gave Kurt Henning that
spot and then Kurt Henning literally busted Rick
Flair's brain Let me think about it during during
the World War three or war games Yeah, I mean
you may have done it for the Rock But you're
not doing it for anybody else for Kishi. So,
uh, gotta go brain busters. You know, it's an
old school that you did an old school ass kicking
tag team. And this is probably the most ass kicking
tag team. I think we have like old school ass
kickers, you know, not this new school kids type
thing. So. So you're hoping for this side of
the bracket to be the Russians against the brain
busters so that Arne Anderson can get revenge.
Maybe you'll see it now. See now we're playing
up the proper scenarios now exactly It's like
you that other team may have beaten me, but you
won't beat me here. It's like this is weird comedy
This is very weird. What's happening here? I
don't get this time paradox. I mean, so yeah
brain busters. Come on. Let's get some old -school
ass kickers in here All right, sounds good. So
we were rooting for the brain busters Apparently
we like the head drinkers for a moment in time
and now we're turning our backs on them. Just
Valentine turned his back on us today Man one
more dig in there. Let's go to the last matchup
on this side of the bracket That would be the
12 seed against the five seed the 12 seed new
age outlaws who took out money, Inc But can they
take out the heart foundation? That is the question
new age outlaws Against the heart foundation.
This one is another tough one guys new age outlaws
top 20 on every list 500 days plus as champions
Heart foundation just under 500 days champion
top 15 on every list including a four a three
and a three A lot of love on all of these lists
for both teams a little more love on the list
for the heart foundation Matt DX or the heart
foundation Ladies and gentlemen children of all
ladies Oh God as much as I would like to See,
ah, man. Do I go for them the guys in the pink
tights or the guys with the Billy gun looking
like two white white Tupac with his headband
like tied around his head and everything like
that. I mean, it's It's a tough one because I
like them both And I have to really kind of take
it out of my mind about I love Bret Hart, but
I have to think of Bret Hart as a tag team person
here, not as a single competitor. So but if I
think about it, if it wasn't for Bret Hart getting
the Montreal screw job, you wouldn't really have.
The new age outlaws reaching the heights that
they probably did with Bret Hart not being there
in a WWF That is a stretch but you know what
I'm gonna stretch it as far as I can This is
a this is a tough one The other side of the bracket
yeah Hardy boys and edging Christian and those
guys this has been some interesting matchups
But it is hard to to figure out what would happen
with these guys against the heart foundation
like How does that match even go? I'm having
trouble even picturing it in my mind. Well, Matt's
thinking, Neil, do you have any way to help persuade
him one way or the other? Ooh, this is so close.
Both these teams are iconic. Both were around
for about the same amount of time, I'm pretty
sure. Yeah. One is very charismatic. The other
one is, well, Heart Foundation also very charismatic,
but more so I would give the edge of charisma
to to Night Heart, whereas Brett was just kind
of like the silent, cool guy who just looked
awesome and always had the best moves. Ah, God.
For this one, I think I gotta go with my heart.
Foundation I Mean if you're breaking it down
here the more technical in the ring would probably
have to go to heart foundation Even if it's even
you know if it's not a huge margin the mic skills
and things of that nature have to go to the New
Age outlaws I would think just because of their
prowess on the mics and that type of stuff Character
wise costume wise move wise. It's all pretty
close to me So it's more like do you like the
entertainers and the talkers or do you like the
ones that could actually wrestle better? And
that type of thing. I don't know Matt. What are
you thinking now? And it's it's still really
close because yeah Being charismatic is a big
thing And the fact you had two I feel like you
had two segments of the heart found you had the
old you had the the one old school heart foundation
with just knightheart and bread heart and then
they kind of have like the new heart foundation
with like more of a stable than anything else,
I guess so um, but you know I'm gonna keep i'm
gonna i'm gonna stick with the heart foundation
though It's hard for me to kind of turn my back
on on that team as much as it pains me to you
know give up on the new age outlaws but i don't
know this is gonna be closer than i think we
think than on the polls and everything like that
because i think we're kind of as neil said going
with our hearts and but i think everybody else
is gonna go with their maybe recency i think
they're gonna go well new age outlaws were around
a lot longer uh funnier the dx connection could
take them further as well too so to be continued
interesting i will i will make one last appeal
for brett here which is that Unlike Shawn Michaels
who I think gradually got better. I think Bret
Hart was always great. If you ever wanted to
see like a good example of tag team era Bret
Hart at his best, go to Survivor Series 1990.
Watch the match where it's like his team and
DiBiase's team. They're the last two guys in
the ring and they put on one hell of a show as
the last two survivors. Nice. To check that out
interesting on the WWE list that I did not consider
when I was making this obviously because of the
bias I talked about Heart Foundation ranked number
two on that list and the New Age Outlaws ranked
number four So they were both in the top five
on that specific list So we'll have to see that
could be one of the closest votes we get but
the other side has some crazy matchups as well
So let's make our way over to the right hand
side of the bracket where we're gonna have some
tough calls guys at least on two of these let's
start at the top with our um highest rank on
this side of the bracket that would be our number
two seed which is obviously edge and christian
tough draw but uh they're going to be going against
the number 18 seed which is harlem heat so edge
and christian um we know their prowess seven
-time champs to only 200 days but uh ranked number
two number two number two number four and number
ten across the board Harlem Heat, not as high
ranked, 36, 37, 18, 17, and 12, but 470 days,
10 times WCW tag titles. A long reign over a
decade for them, whereas the Edge and Christian,
not quite that long. Not as long of a tenure,
but maybe a bigger impact while they were there.
Neil, Edge and Christian, Harlem Heat. Oh my
god. Well, at least... This time around, it's
not going to be over a shampoo commercial. That's
a pull. Oh my god. God, I don't know. God, I
love Edge and Christian. Harlem Heat, both these
teams are great tag teams. Both had great charisma.
But only one of them has captain charisma. Even
so, god, I'm going to give a tiny bit of edge
to. For some reason I like the fact that Harlem
Heat had like the name and the outfits and like
they feel like more of a team even though I know
education was a great team I I'm always a sucker
for like more of the team element than just putting
two names together I don't know just a aesthetic
thing, but man the impact that Harlem Heat had
on WCW Has to be even greater than the impact
agent Christian had on WWE. I don't know. That's
tough This is a tough match up Matt. Help me
out It's it. I mean, this is another one these
things where you take two already charismatic
Like wrestlers even and they were I mean they
worked their way up I mean you remember them
from the brood and they were just like these
two non -speaking pseudo You know, you know emo
vampire type guys and then they became completely
different characters and everything and Harlem
heat though, I mean Iconic tag team who had a
lot of title reigns it had pretty substantial
title reigns too and they've known they've I
mean they had all the moves I mean They were
fantastic. I mean everything about them I really
love but I think at the end of the day people
Will likely vote with the TLC matches that have
just become probably some of the most iconic
matches in WWF or e history, whatever you want
to call it in the past I would say 20 years or
something like that. I mean everybody talks about
tlc one two and three, you know, that's those
are the matches everybody keeps going back to
and You know people might remember harlem heat
never had like the that one like real marquee
match that made you remember harlem heat outside
of how cool they looked and they had great matches,
but they were never of the Death defying like
oh my god. These guys are gonna kill each other
type thing. So As my heart says I would love
to see Harlem Heat win because I think as a real
tag. They're a real tag team not to say Edwin
Christian aren't but they were a Combination
that was created because these two guys can play
well off each other and they're brothers too
So I mean I don't know. I'm going Harlem Heat
because I'm going with I go back and forth, you
know I'm probably the most inconsistent person
you can have in the show gun like I don't like
these old guys They're too not normal for me,
but then I'm going Harlem Heat there that are
like a true tag team So I'm going Harlem Heat
For the record, in the first round, more people
voted for Harlem Heat than voted for Edge and
Christian. I know it's a different matchup. Maybe
some people felt like they didn't need to vote
in the Edge and Christian matchup. I don't know.
But we'll have to see if those... Your vote counts,
people. Yeah, we're getting into election season,
guys. Come on, you gotta vote. All right, let's
move on. You know, on the other side, we had
an eight against a nine. That was as close as
you can get, one seat away. Somehow we're getting
a matchup here that's only... Three seeds away,
but it's not what you would think. We have a
26 seed against a 23 seed. Because that's how
things work here guys. The 26 seed would of course
be the Bushwhackers and the 23 seed would be
the Brothers of Destruction. I would love to
see this match. What have we done? I think this
match would be very easy to write. You can have
a whole lot of fun being the agent on this one
and setting up a complete squash match here.
Alright, alright, I gotta get in here. Wait,
wait, what do we have here? Mean Gene, what is
going on in the locker room here? We have a run
-in. I've heard enough. He's coming back. Is
this the third man? What side is he on? WCW studio.
What are you talking about? I'm on my side. NWO
shirt. What is going on? I don't know what's
happening. Oh, you guys, this is DJ Valentine.
We thought he had left the company. He is back.
We don't know what's going on. DJ, explain yourself.
What in the hell is going on? You picked Harlem
heat over edge of Christian. I've heard enough.
I've got to get brothers of destruction and the
bushwhackers It's actually a good match actually
I think about it's a pretty good match. I gotta
Clearly be the bushwhackers running around I
think I think the Undertaker and Kane would kill
him in about two seconds But but the entertainment
value of the Bushwhackers is so high. I gotta
go. I guess I gotta go with Brothers of Destruction
though. I'm rooting for the Bushwhackers, but
it's essentially like, you know, that small puppy
versus that Great Dane. So yeah, I'm going Brothers
of Destruction and I'm here. You weren't here
before and so what we want to explain to you
is that we in the second round were the matchup
You're just talking about a 26 seeded bushwhackers
against a 23 seed brothers of destruction How
does a 26 seed and a 23 seed find their way to
each other in the second round? Brothers of Destruction
took out the British Bulldogs and the Bushwhackers
took out the Midnight Express. Well, that makes
sense. So what is your thoughts? What is your
thoughts about the Brothers of Destruction that
so far laying a path of destruction? It's because
it's it's the it's the Undertaker there in Kane.
I think people were voting with I know them.
Know them know with the British Bulldogs are
they if they were going with lineage they would
probably go British Bulldogs But they went with
hey, the other takers still wrestling today,
and I know Kane He's a senator or governor something
that and Matt's a home state. So Mayor Knoxville
darn it whatever the hell he is. He's a he's
in charge of the government, which is not that
far from who runs the government I Think they
won because of the the you know, they're very
popular But the the bushwhackers again, they're
just fun, but I think they're gonna get mud stomped
There's no way you're gonna take out the other
taker unless you have the urn if the bushwhackers
have the urn maybe Crikey, I got this urn! Not
even maybe they'd win, maybe they'd survive another
minute. Maybe they'd live. Neil, what do you
think? Brothers of Destruction, the 23 seed,
making it all the way into the Sweet 16? It's
gotta be the Brothers of Destruction. Or the
Elite Eight. Elite Eight. They gotta win this,
I mean, come on. But you know, if this does happen,
I want to see at least one battering ram. It's
gotta happen. Just for comedy's sake. Matt anything
to add on this one? How did we get here? Sometimes
these matches just write themselves. I mean,
you don't have to say anything. This is It's
gonna be something to see these these four great
Oh, yeah, the bushwhackers come down. They run
around the ring They try to avoid them in the
ring Then when the brothers of the destruction
get so upset that they turn their back and they're
looking at each other Bushwhackers attempt to
do a batting ram, which does no damage And it's
just a double choke slam and the game's over
Well, you know it might knock the undertaker
down just so he can do the sit -up thing. Yes
But this is American badass undertaker who barely
ever did the sit -up thing It's an American badass
undertaker. So this is different. This is different
era of undertaker I would also like to see Jamison
get the last ride. Put him in the, what's the
other one, Hell's Gate? Hell's Gate. Help me,
help me. Lost control here. Alright, let's, what
we're gonna do, DJ's here now, we're gonna finish
off this round and then I'm gonna give DJ a quick
second to comment on some of the other stuff.
But, let's move on now to our next matchup, which
is going to see the 14th, we just had a 26 against
a 23. Let's bring back to earth a little bit.
We're gonna have a 14 seed. Against a three seed
a little bit closer here So the 14 seed if you
guys were paying attention would be none other
than of course our fabulous free birds And they
are going against the three seed which happens
to be the Dudley boys Get the tables get the
tables Tables this is over come on guys the Dudley
boys are taking this to the championship round
There's nobody you're gonna put up against them
into the championship round that makes me even
Equivocate my loyalty Dudley boys all the way
look at that feather here get the hell about
here For the record Dudley boys the only team
on this side of the bracket that had a 100 %
margin of victory last round against public enemy
Can they do the same against fabulous reverse
would have been a better matchup if the deadly
boys would have faced the natural disasters Matt
Imagine trying to do the deadly death drop on
like typhoon or earthquake Yeah, that would be
that moment where Brock Lesnar suplexes big show
off the top rope and the ring just like gives
it's like I give up I can't do this. Imagine
like you've had like Stacey Keebler up there
like the Duchess of Dudleyville like kind of
seduce like tugboat or something like that. It's
like he would have eaten him. Yeah, probably.
So, you know, it's proof that Spike Dudley's
are high in fiber. But I mean. The Freebirds,
they barely made it out of the last round, right?
Barely. Barely. One vote over the natural. By
the skin of their Confederate flag. Barely made
it out of there. So no love for Michael P .S.
Hayes. Michael P .S. Hayes. Hey, P .S. Michael,
you're fired. You're fired! Neil, do you agree
Dudley Boy is in a cakewalk? Oh, God, yeah. Dudley
Boy are the most... Decorate a tag team of all
time and although the belts aren't real You don't
get handed don't get handed the titles that many
times without being one of the greatest tag teams
ever So it's got to be the Dudley's All right.
Let's move on then guys. That was the Dudley
boys against the fabulous, but no longer living
free birds. And we'll move on to the last matchup
on this side of the bracket, which has a number
11 seed against a six seed. So we're getting
a little bit closer here. That 11 seed, and I
can't wait to hear you guys take on this one.
The 11 seed, of course, is the Steiner brothers
and the six seed. is the Hardy Boys. Ooh, this
is a good match. Brothers against brothers here.
The Steiner Brothers against the Hardy Boys.
Before you guys comment, I'll give you guys a
little bit time to process, come up with your
arguments. I'm going to go over their stats a
little bit here. So, of course, the Steiner Brothers
ranked 29, 15, 12, 6, and 6. They held a lot
of titles in different companies, two titles
in the WWE, seven titles in the WCW. They've
been around for... Long time over a decade in
the business and then we had the Hardy boys ranked
eight seven five five five Seven WWE championships
and the one I guess you can call it WCW tag champion
chip Matt and Jeff against Scott and Rick Who
wants to start this one Matt? Hmm. This is a
battle of two clashing styles, you know, you
got the brute strength of, you know, the Steiner
Brothers, and then you got the high flying suicide
and kamikaze, and I don't know, that's not even
a thing, but I'm making it a thing. It sounds
like something like somebody would say up so
profiles like River was doing like color commentary
It's like he's always high flying or dusty roads
almost This would be an interesting match I mean
Power versus no, it's kind of like when we were
talking about earlier with the the rockers like,
you know high flying team versus like is I'm
gonna beat I'm gonna beat you up type of team
but uh W boys this could go that same direction
where people might go edge and christian against
harlem heat because and this is kind of like
kind of a mirror like a mirrored match almost
between harlem heat and uh, you know both two
w two primarily wcw tag teams against two primarily,
you know ww team so Will the tlc matches put
the hardy boys over the top? Probably will but
if you really like big papa pump, he's your hookup
holler if you hear him Love the amount of references
we get in here neil. What do you think about
starters and hard? Uh, I think I think both uh
hardy boards are gonna be broken after this one
I give the signers a 141 and two -thirds chance
of winning The references keep on coming. I always
count on Scott to count. The Steiner recliner
going on against the Hardy boys here. DJ, what
do you think? What are we making? Heads or tails
of the Steiner's don't got to hook up this time,
but no kissing of the biceps on this one. This
is going to be the Hardy boys all day. Um, and
it's mainly because, uh, even though the, the
Steiners might have the pedigree in terms of
titles, the Hardy boys, kill themselves. I mean,
they are jumping off of Titan trunks ladders
that can reach the roof of the building. Okay.
So in terms of pure entertainment, I think the
Hardy boys have the signer speed. I can't remember
a lot of Steiner matches. I remember them fighting.
But I remember Jeff Hardy climbing that fricking
ladder. You know which ladder I'm talking about.
Not the regular ladder. That huge ladder. I was
like, who built this? What building is this for?
What are you supposed to do with this? I think
what hurts the Steiners is that their prime was
when they were in WCW before anybody was watching
WCW. So I don't think a lot of us got to see
their traditional wrestlers. Hardys aren't doing
anything traditional. That's very true. Very
true. The other thing you got to wonder guys,
uh, does a big pop a pumps career afterwards
negatively impact people's view on the Steiners?
I don't know. He had some terrible matches when
he came back to the WWE. My question is looking
on the ring. Is anybody surprised at the Steiners
across the rankings that were listed on all the
other ones that we reference? Cause nobody had
the Steiners in the top five tag teams of all
time. And three people did not even have them
in the top ten Does that surprise you or do you
think these guys are these guys onto something
that they're not quite on that upper echelon?
WCW bias a little bit, too I think they're second
tier when it comes to tag teams of all the tag
teams in the world the Steiner's are recognizable,
but tell Name me like a really iconic Steiner
match. I remember when Sid Bush's broke his leg
off of You can't blame Rick for that one I blame
Rick Rick wasn't there Barking in the back the
Steiner's also had a good run in Japan. I believe
as well didn't yeah those matches So I don't
know if those were good But yeah, I think a lot
of people are putting the Steiner's here on the
second tier But interesting if you look back
at the first round more people voted for Steiner
brothers in their matchup then voted for Hardy
boys in their matchup I don't know what that
says about the future of this or what that will
entail. But Let's get your guys's technical votes.
I know DJ you said Hardy boys Neil. Who did you
say Steiner's? Steiner's Matt I'm going with
the Hardy boys I have to see what the listeners
think of that and all the other matchups But
before we do that, let's give DJ a quick minute
to react to some of the happenings and goings
-ons here as he was We're just gonna pretend
that you were infiltrating the other the rival
business. Yes You weren't actually being he was
firing the first shot. I was firing Michael's
in Triple H So since you were already here for
most of this side of the bracket what you didn't
see obviously we had edging Christian who beat
the smoking guns Handley go against Harlem Heat
who beat the wild Samoans Handley So we had edging
Christian versus Harlem Heat give your seconds
and thoughts in a second We then you came in
Brothers of Destruction beat Bulldogs Bushwhackers
beat Midnight Express We had the Dudley boys
over public enemy in a clean sweep 100 % Fabulous
free birds by one vote over the natural disasters.
Steiner brothers, 94 % vote wins over steamboat
and young blood. Hardy boys, 88 % winners over
the nasty boys. Um, any thoughts on this side
of the bracket? I know you were here for most
of it, but, uh, that we have going on here. I,
I, I'm telling you, and I think I said this last,
it's, it, this is, this whole bracket is going
to be leading up to Hardee's versus Dudley's.
Everybody else here is just a, just a innocent
bystander. I don't see anybody. I mean, the president's
instruction. It seems like they're they're stealing
their way to the to the top Because they have
American badass undertaker which man that you're
lucky your picture doesn't have him an American
badass attire because I think that would affect
some boats because he's wearing a traditional
undertaker attire if he if he if he wasn't then
I if it was just him in the jeans jacket and
the motorcycle I'm voting But yeah, I think this
is all this is all about the delis man, it's
all about 3d Alright, we'll have to see if people
agree or not We have we have some heavy hitters
there edge and Christian Harlem Heat Of course
the love for the Undertaker and the brothers
of the destruction Dudley boys Hardy boys Steiner
brothers a lot of iconic teams on that side So
interesting to see how that's gonna play out
Let's go back to the side that DJ wasn't here
for just to get a rundown and you give your guys's
thoughts I'm heading forward the rest of this
side of the bracket. We had the Legion of Doom
100 % winners over the Koveckers We had the Russians
beating the Minnesota wrecking crew by one by
two votes. We had demolition, 89 % winners over
Fuji and Tanaka. The outsiders, our third clean
sweep, 100 % winners over the Valiant brothers.
We had the upset head shrinkers over the rock
and roll express doubled up their votes. We had
the brain busters double up the votes of the
rockers. So the brain busters took out the rockers.
Then we had a Doubling up again where the new
age outlaws doubled the amount of votes that
money ain't got and then we had the heart foundation
92 percent winners over doom. That's right doom
did receive two votes. So that led us to the
matchups that we went over. We had Legion of
Doom. They voted for themselves. They might have.
So we had Legion of Doom against the Russians
in the second round. We have demolition against
the outsiders. We have the head shrinkers against
the brain busters. That's just weird that those
two got together. And then the New Age outlaws
against the Heart Foundation. DJ, your thoughts
on that half? other than the cranial connection
up there with this if you're telling me that
the new age outlaws doubled up who are they against
again i'm sorry they doubled up money ink and
now they're going against heart foundation they
double up money that means to me that they're
going against the heart foundation it's going
to be closer than people might think i think
it's going to be close for them to double up
The million -dollar man in IRS said that to me
says that they got a strong contingent out there.
So the bread bread heart and Jim Neville Niner
better watch out. I don't, I don't really care
who wins between the brain buses and the head
swingers. It's just a fucking matchup. I don't,
I, whoever wins, whoever wins, we win. Uh, and
I think the, uh, I think the demolitions runs
about the country because I know the outsiders
have a strong contention. I was, we were, we
were contemplating that people would be, um,
fixing the vote so they could see a Legion of
doom demolition matchup. Think you're gonna see
everybody anybody fixing the votes gonna be the
outsiders versus new age outlaws That's what
I think if you're gonna say you're gonna get
to the two bad boy teams going to get each other
If anybody's gonna fix boats, I think you're
gonna get a vote fix for that All right, Matt
at the beginning we talked about if there would
be any trends if classic teams if recency bias
if You know teams that had more recognizable
single people things of that nature I don't know
if any trends came out though because obviously
we had some classic teams like the Rock and Roll
Express Midnight Express Go down and and out
of this one, but then we also had the fabulous
free birds beat the natural disasters Which is
and the brain busters beat the Rockers So and
I don't know how to did you see any trends? Do
you can you predict the rest of the way? I mean,
I think we had everybody kind of had their fun
with the few. I mean, the matchups in the first
round were kind of like they could have gone
either way. And maybe we swayed them one. I mean.
Nobody in their right mind's really gonna pick
the head shrinkers to win something, but you
know we did so maybe we kind of like a Little
bit we fixed it. That's right people. We're fixing
the vote fixing it but I think it was funny that
we got rid of all these You know kind of iconic.
I mean you got rid of my quote -unquote iconic.
I mean if you're from the you know, um ovw wrestling
era you're from like, you know, the Wwwf and
things like that that era, you know, you're probably
like, oh man, I can't believe the midnight express
lost But then that express the rock and roll
express This wrecking free birds beat the natural
disasters By the skin of their teeth they beat
the natural disasters So I think there was some
a few kind of you know, we had some flukiness
happen But I mean, I think you know, you're getting
a you're getting a gauge of like who's voting
to I mean None of us was like, come on, Midnight
Express. I mean, I was confused between the Midnight
Express and Rock and Roll Express. I mean, that's
how confused I was. So I think the trend is that
we're going to start, of course, seeing the teams
that everybody knows. Like, this is going to
be kind of cut and dry, I think, this round right
here. We'll see. Maybe we'll get a few kind of
sets here, but it's hard to tell this one. This
is the good ones start coming out. So, yeah,
I mean, I think you got a lot of blowouts in
that first round, even though we had closer than
I thought with a bunch of in the fifty five,
you know, fifty two percent, fifty five percent
in a couple of these matchups, another fifty
two, another fifty six. But this time, I don't
know, as we get close going further, it seems
like the matchup should be closer as far as percents
go. We shouldn't have too many blowouts, but
I could see a blowout, obviously, with the Legion
of Doom and the Russians. And I could see Blow
out with brothers of destruction and the bushwhackers
and Dudley boys and free birds. I see all those
three being blowouts Steiner brothers and Hardy
boys That seems to me like that should be pretty
close new age outlaws heart foundation should
be pretty close Demolition outsiders to me is
pretty close Neil. There can only be eight teams
that move on Do we have a good mix to have a
great elite eight going forward? I think so.
Yes And any predictions or any dark horses that
you're putting your money on to to win one of
these closer matchups between like the demolition
outsiders Heart Foundation New Age Outlaws Hardy
Boy Steiner's I Was kind of tough to call a couple
of them are really close. I'm really got my eye
on Heart Foundation and New Age Outlaws. I don't
know how that's gonna go And like we said at
the beginning guys, there's multiple ways to
vote for these polls and it was interesting too
to see the difference between those who went
to our website versus those who voted on Facebook.
Twitter seemed to be pretty close on all of the
matchups. margins there except for Harlem Heat
and Wild Samoans probably had the biggest margin
on Twitter. But interesting to see some people
that website voted one way, Facebook voted the
other way. So those are your three ways to vote.
You can go to the website, you can vote all of
them right on one page. You don't have to wait,
you don't have to find them, they're all just
right on one page. You go to geekcastradio .com,
there's a post there that'll say the tag team
tournament. You click on that, you can vote on
all 16 matchups right there. If you don't want
to do that, you can do it throughout the week
because we will have these polls once again scheduled
at different time increments on our Facebook
page throughout time. So usually one in the morning,
one at night, that type of thing where you can
wait and vote for those. And Twitter, they don't
let you schedule polls. So we just kind of have
to put those up randomly. So you have to keep
an eye on our Twitter page if you want to do
that. And if you're really Feeling real strong
about a team. I suppose you could vote in all
three methods, but that's just the way the world
works now. I guess you can multiple votes. You
can vote if you're dead. You can vote all kinds
of ways. So if you're dead in Chicago, how can
you do that? Well, Matt, but you ask. I'm a ghost
and I'm not really here. So that's how that works.
So that will, as soon as you're hearing this,
you're able to go to any of those three things
and start voting and you'll have about a week
to get your votes in. But some polls, like I
said, if they're posted later on in the week,
you have less days to vote. So don't hesitate
and don't procrastinate, I guess is what I should
say. I should have a mic or something here in
the middle of the ring here with my rhyming.
All right, DJ, anything last words you want to
say? I know you were late to the party. Any reactions,
words of wisdom, advice for the voters? What
do you think? How can people get in touch with
you? I'm on Twitter at trying to be DJ V and
I also share the account with this Miscrete right
next to me Matthew Stewart at simple tweeters
and my last thought for this round is guys It's
the Dudley boys. What are you really wasting
time for? It's the Dudley boys. Let's go. It's
the Dudley boys 3d get the tables Matt, what
do you think? How could people get a hold of
you? And what are your last thoughts on this
second round? Like my former tag team Yeah, you
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on net like it Neil obviously this whole tournament
is to what people's appetite is to get the brain
and gear to start the wheels turning to start
thinking about our Ultimate project at the end
of the year wishes our top 100 wrestlers of all
time. Is it getting you interested? Is it succeeding?
Do you think people are going to be ready to
talk single wrestlers here at the end of all
this? Oh, yeah, I'm looking forward to that one
in particular so many great singles wrestlers
I I had my hit my ready to go pretty early on
I just But that was that was quite an epic thing
to put together of that hole And I was updating
it like pretty late into the game too. I was
oh, yeah that guy bumping people off my list
and My prediction is that this top 100 is going
to be the hardest one to predict out of all the
ones we've ever done because there's so many
different areas and there's so many different
ways people can go when they're when they're
putting more weight on this person versus that
person. So we'll have to see if that holds true.
You know, we had our top 100 animated series
and I think everybody predicted that it was either
going to be Simpsons or Batman the animated series
at one point. So I mean, that one was a little
bit more easy to predict that type of stuff.
So we'll have to wait and see. One was for series,
one was for movies. No, the movies one. What
is that? Lion King, I think, was predicted pretty
heavily at the top. Series was Batman the animated
series. So this one, I don't know, could be a
lot of different ways. Neil, how can people get
in touch with you? It's Neil Sama on Twitter,
and I do goofy cartoon comics over on DCN .com.
Absolutely, and I am at Optimus Solo on Twitter.
Again, direct all hate towards me about who's
not in this tournament, who is, and all that
stuff, and I will try to give you the method
behind the madness. And you can also tweet at
GeekCastRadio if you have any questions about
the polls, the voting, or how any of that stuff
works. Tune in. I know we had a two -week break
for this first round because there were so many
matchups. There will only be a one -week break
here between this and the next episode. So next
time we crown the Elite Eight, there will be
only eight teams left when you hear us next.
And then obviously after that, we'll go to the
Final Four. Hopefully you're enjoying this whole
process. Tune in next time as we get back in
the ring and throw a bunch of tag teams in there
and see who comes out on top. That's all for
today, wrestling fans. Tune in again for our
next turnbuckling episode, Hard Knocks and Wrist
Locks or... The Ding -a -ling gets his bell rung!
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