GCRN WarZ

Wrestling Tag Team Tournament Round 2

E29 October 26, 2018 1:35:57 EXPLICIT
GCRN WarZ Wrestling Tag Team Tournament Round 2
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About this Episode

The hosts break down the results from the first round of the fan-voted tag team wrestling tournament. They discuss the surprising upsets and blowouts, comparing the voting trends across the website, Facebook, and Twitter. The episode highlights the debate over criteria, such as modern versus classic teams, the definition of stable versus tag team, and the influence of famous gimmicks on the voting pool. They also preview the upcoming Sweet 16 matchups and reflect on the teams that were excluded from the initial bracket.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is your GCRN Awards

Tag Team Wrestling Tournament with your host,

Optimus Solo. Money isn't everything, it's the

only thing! And featuring, TV's Mr. Neal. The

whole wrestling world is gonna stand up and take

notice! And, from Simplistic Reviews... Hello

and welcome back to another episode here at the

GeekCast Radio Network of GCRN Wars. That's right,

we started a war last week, a tournament of the

best tag teams of all time, and we need to continue

that war because it has not been settled yet.

There's not Only one tag team remaining standing

yet So we have to take another step towards that

goal and I am not alone to do that Returning

from last week are two of so we have my tag team

is fully intact Um, but it it's not a it's a

handicap match I guess this week because matthew

you are flying solo this week I'm flying solo.

Yeah, the cream always rises to the top. Yeah,

the cream is to the top right here That was my

really horrible macho man. But I feel like the

mega plot powers have imploded. Yeah, basically

we had we had an NWO style hostile takeover and

we had one of our very own plucked away from

us doing his best heel turn. DJ Valentine will

not be with us. He's he's become a traitor. He's

he's. Still working for the company, but he's

on the other network. So, uh, I don't know what's

going on with that. We'll have to do some behind

the scenes, uh, wheeling and dealing and, and

maybe lay the smack down on them in the locker

room to bring them back to our side for next

time. I don't know what's happening. Is there

regular or longer blaze taking the title to another

network and throw it in the garbage? Basically,

I feel like that's what he did. So he's gonna

have to explain himself next week when he comes

back and make up for lost time. Also joining

me as he was last week is TV's Mr. Neil. Hello,

Neil. Hello, I'm a tower of power too sweet to

be sour. Like it I like when you guys come prepared

with this stuff. It's excellent. I don't even

ask for this guy This is free work. They're doing

for us. I love it so obviously last week we unveiled

all of the first round matchups and then we We

took it to the internet took it to the fans took

it to the listeners and said help us figure out

who should move on in all of these different

matchups and we did that in a couple different

ways actually new for us here at GCR and wars

because Typically what we've done in the past

is we've gone strictly to our website put the

polls on there and that is the only where people

were allowed to vote. What we did this time is

we did take it to the website, allowed people

to vote there at the website, but we also took

it to Facebook. We did polls for every single

matchup on Facebook. They were scheduled throughout

the last... Weaker eight nine days whatever it

was and then we also put a handful of them about

half of the matchups up on Twitter too To see

if people wanted to vote on Twitter as well So

we have three different methods of voting and

then we added it all up and the whoever got the

most votes across all methods of madness Will

be crowned the winners Typically guys when we

do these wars the first round Ends up being a

whole lot of blowouts just because of the nature

of the beast and then we get closer matchups

as we go through I will say that this is not

the case this week because We had probably half

the matchups that were rather close and about

a quarter of the matchups that were within one

or two three votes total making the difference.

So it's interesting here. There's definitely

some upsets, some close matchups, and then your

typical blowouts as well. Matt, start with you,

though, before we start unveiling the results.

As you had a chance to look back, to think about

things, to think about who you voiced your opinions

for, to think about who was included and who

wasn't included, any reactions before we get

going that you pondered over in the last seven

to 14 days? I mean, I think we knew did a excellent

job of plucking these 32 tag teams out and then

later on I mean I was really listening to the

last week or the week before the first episode

and we mentioned a few like funny ones like the

headbangers and men on a mission and Something

body down is like these really like fringy tag

teams So I mean it would have been funny to maybe

see them, but I think we definitely from what

I said before we picked the cream of the crop

but There were a few other ones that I thought

of after the fact like why didn't we include

things like, you know We include the brothers

of destruction which was almost kind of like,

you know two superstars joining forces But we

didn't kind of include like, you know, let's

say, you know the mega powers or something like

that or Team hell no or something like that I

mean, I guess it's still based on kind of legacy

and how long these no tag teams were together

So I mean once I start thinking about 32 team,

I'm like, oh, what about the other? Tagging is

like how many other tag teams that have existed

over, you know the course of time But I think

overall the 32 that were picked were very well

curated sir Yeah, what I what I ended up doing

like we talked about last week. We do have you

know six or five different Rankings that we took

from the internet, you know different publications

whether it be magazines or websites or whatever

that had published them and and I tried to do

my best of Going over all five of those lists

and anybody that was on, you know, all four lists

or anybody that made multiple appearances trying

to include those as much as possible. Um, what

happened was is the, obviously there's always

omissions. So for example, I can tell you right

off the bat that there was one tag team that

was on three of the five groups that I left off.

Um, that being the briscoe brothers. I just felt

like there wouldn't be enough people that knew

much about the briscoe brothers to put them in

and they didn't rank in anybody's top ten. So

that was another thing that if any any of them

that are were on any of those five top tens I

basically included with one exception and you

already brought that up and that was the mega

powers. The mega powers was in rankers top ten

list. And then they didn't make like they made

one other list way down at like the 30 something

level 32 33 somewhere in there And we're left

off of all the other lists So it's kind of hard

when you have those two superstars that are pairing

up. We had some people on Facebook also Talking

a little bit about some of the other groups that

they thought they might want to see and on the

website So we had I want to Point out the three

tag teams that were brought up by the listeners

and skit your guys's reaction before we go to

the results So the three that were brought up

were APA New day and on Facebook side of things

the combination of Triple H and Shawn Michaels

aka D generation X And so I wanted to get your

guys's opinions on all of those and when before

we go to you guys just three caveats to that

degeneration x i guess the question would be

degeneration x in my opinion i guess is technically

a stable it's like the four horsemen it's like

the dungeon of doom you know etc etc so you have

a stable there and traditionally the tag team

of that group is in the tournament and that's

the new age outlaws not to say that triple h

and sean michaels did not also tag together and

not that there wasn't Tag teams that were labeled

degeneration X. So there was a little bit of

a blurry line there where I wasn't sure if that

should be included or not And then just for example,

like let's say the new day Obviously, that's

a more recent tag team They're currently still

wrestling not that a lot of people aren't currently

still wrestling But a lot of the ones that I'm

referencing to maybe shouldn't be Whereas new

day is still in their prime and still doing their

thing and and that's a hard thing when we do

these lists So what's your guys's opinions to

on some of the more modern ones? Have they had

a chance to? to solidify what their legacy is

or should we wait until they're done and before

we include those, you can go both ways. So Neil,

you haven't talked yet. What are your thoughts

on some of those things that have been brought

up? Well, I had agreed with one of the listeners

about the APA. I think there are certain tag

teams where they're not really known for being

champions, although I think the APA did win the

championship once, I think. But there are tag

teams that are more beloved than they are. And

they would, you know, be known for having like,

like racked up a massive title run. And I think,

I think a good case could be made for that. New

Day, I'll have to take their word on it because

that's, that's getting into like more recent

product. And I'm a little checked out at the

moment. What was the other one? The Shawn Michaels

and Triple H did Generations X. Oh yeah. They,

they did tag for a little bit. In fact, there

was a revival, I think about, I don't know. 10

years ago where they came back as Degeneration

X and they were the only two guys. And they were

tagging together a lot, but you know, don't really

consider them a legacy tag team. You know, kind

of like the Mega Powers, which we also brought

up. Mega Powers, interesting tag team, but they're

not really a legacy tag team. They're not like

these, they weren't really a tag team that was

thrown together to... It'd have a really long

run. In fact, the mega powers were basically

put together to be broken up. So Yeah, I Don't

know. I don't think I would put DX on the list

I think I think we got a much better choice and

new age outlaws for that many that them I agree.

Matt, you brought up a point, too, that maybe

it was a misstep in including the Brothers of

Destruction because that is a team like that.

So I could see the argument being that if you

include them, then you have to include some of

these other ones. To go off the list that I was

looking at just for reference sake, Degeneration

X did appear on two of the lists. It was left

off of the other ones. APA was on one list out

of the five that I looked at. And they were ranked

17th on that list and new day was ranked 17th

on one list and 40 44 on another list left off

of the other three lists So those were the types

of things that I kind of let sway my opinion

to try to keep my own personal biases out of

it The other interesting well, let me give Matt.

Let me give you a way to react to what do you

think about those teams? That were left off kind

of final thoughts on that I mean, it's funny

because we did include what was it the the other

tag team that Ron Simmons for the doom So, I

mean if we did a swap almost where you took doom

out and then you put in the APA, you know I'm

sure we would have been having a different conversation

of course, too And you know just according to

some just information. I just brought up I mean

seems like APA or the accolades whatever you

want to call them They won they won the tag team

titles, I think three times so right I mean they

do have some gold around there and they always

had like, you know, they were like the funny

gimmicky type I think is then that's when you

started getting fruit going damn and all that

stuff and you know You had to play poker and

just being like to kind of like the body guards

for everybody To Neil's point as well too with

new day. I mean they did break demolitions tag

team like, you know, they're win streak You know

how long they they held the tag teams, but I

mean it's also the era now too I feel with tag

teams where none of them are like I don't know.

I hate to say that none of them are pretty some

of them are memorable I mean, I think the new

day is more gimmicky with what they do, you know,

they're silly. They're goofy. They're colorful

They're good wrestlers on their own biggies and

a really strong guy really great wrestler You

know, Kofi Kingston has been wrestling for a

while and you know, Xavier Woods He's he's a

decent wrestler as well, too. But the the hot

new isn't the high quality of you know They have

good matches with the Usos, or they keep finding

the same thing over and over, just like Seamus

and Cesaro are the bar. How far down the rabbit

hole are you going to go by bringing up all these

newer? Tag teams, you know, you have to keep

adding on adding on adding on it's like let's

see what their legacy holds You know, they've

only really seen them fight for about a year

maybe two years or something like that Whereas,

you know, look at the guys like the bushwhackers.

They're around for 30 years But but I've been

to the Nils point as well too and your point

as well with the mega powers I mean, yeah, they

were created just to kind of create a storyline

So you got to pick and choose. When you only

have 32 tag teams. If you did 64, we couldn't

be talking. But 32, you have to be choosy with

who you're going to pick, though. another one

that i was kind of surprised that didn't get

brought up kind of in the same vein of the mega

powers or even like the brothers of destruction

that i could have seen people making an argument

for was something like the rock and sock connection

yeah they they did appear on three lists out

of the five but none of them were ranked higher

than 21 and so that was another one where it's

just really hard when you have people that have

been more successful or made more of a name as

singles how will they fare in a tag team tournament

like this and we had one of those in a couple

included, then we'll see how they fared. But

that was something, too, that I was trying to

consider when we were kind of going through here.

So what's going to be interesting to see as we

reveal these results is sometimes these results

will reveal a lot about how the rest of the tournament

is going to go. And it's interesting. Obviously,

Neil and Matt have not seen the results, so they're

not sure what's going on yet. But something that

sometimes can come out is if there's any types

of biases, maybe a time period, whether it's

classic, whether it's, you know, 80s, 90s, whether

it's more modern stuff. If there's a certain

thing that's gonna propel somebody if we are

putting more stake into belts versus maybe You

know just like you guys were talking about who

is more fun and who is more memorable that type

of thing So let's see what the results show about

that and kind of wrap up at the end with What

our reactions are to how things went I will say

that it's interesting because in sometimes in

some cases it looked like there was a bias against

classic teams But then there's other matchups

that go completely against that So it was like

I'm struggling to find a trend here and I'll

see what you guys think as we kind of go through

here So what we're gonna do we're gonna reveal

all of the results of the first round and then

in the second half We are going to look at the

second round matchups and give you our thoughts

and try to influence you guys to vote how we

want you to vote for The this I guess what we

would call the sweet 16 Around and who should

move on to the elite eight. So we're gonna start

on the left side of the bracket and just go down

and then we'll flip over to the right side so

on the left side of the bracket we will start

with a contest that well maybe we shouldn't call

it a contest that was our one seed the legion

of doom against the 32 seeded Quebecers 100 %

voting Each in the auto zoom that is a 100 %

to 0 % margin Legion of doom marching their way

into the second round I don't think we need much

of a reaction there that was expected. Let's

go to something that Maybe is harder to predict

right underneath that was our 16th seed against

our 17th seed So it's a little different than

1 in 32 now. We have 16 and 17 That's the closest

of any matchup in the whole thing And that was

the Russians against the Minnesota Wrecking Crew.

Neil, refresh people's memories on who you were

voting for in that one. I went for the Minnesota

Wrecking Crew. And Matt? I'm pretty sure I went

for the Russians just to, you know, be a little

weird about it. So interesting thing here. If

you were to go at the website, one team overwhelmingly

would have been the winners. If you were to go

to Facebook, the opposite team would have overwhelmingly

been the winners. I'm shocked. So it was very

close. We have a 56 percent to 44 percent match

up here. Basically just a couple vote difference.

The winners and moving on to the second round.

It's hard to beat the Russians. The Russians

are moving on past the Minnesota Wrecking Crew

by just a Couple votes fifty six percent to forty

four percent. So no upset yet. That is the seed

that was ranked higher maybe some Facebook the

Nikita Koloff lovers and the Whoever else it

was crucial crucial coming out and Full support

I was that actually happens multiple times here

throughout the time where Facebook goes one way

and the website goes the other way Sometimes

it lines up, but there's a couple times where

they're completely different. So it's interesting

there What was the total number of votes out

of curiosity goes between just those? Yeah, that

one was one of the lower voted on ones because

I think a lot of people don't know either team

Yeah, so we're talking about like 18 to 20 votes

there In that matchup we had some that were much

higher than that So maybe not a lot of people

knowing these guys I know I had one Facebook

response from one of the listeners that said

that they were strictly going off of the card

and Who had the belts longer and who was ranked

higher on the other groups because they didn't

know either team So maybe that was a situation

where that helped them. I don't know Neil are

you all are you feeling sad? Well Arne's still

in there in one other spot, so I'm not totally

depressed yet. Right. We have to wait and see

how he fares. But the chance of Arne facing Arne

is now no longer a possibility. So let's move

on down one to our number nine seed against our

24 seed. This was demolition against Mr. Fuji.

And I believe his name is Pat Tanaka. I could

be wrong on the first name there. Fuji and Tanaka.

Guess what, guys? This is not unanimous. So we

have an eighty nine percent to eleven percent

so eleven percent of people feeling semester

food you love but eighty nine percent of them

say demolition should move on so demolition not

having too much of a problem here in this first

round of match up that one is expected right

guys. Pretty yeah i would say so i think i think

that eleven percent was all on crush. I told

you he's gonna be the weak link in the Demolition.

That wasn't as much of a vote for Fuji and Tanaka

as it was against Demolition Crush. Yes. I like

it. Right underneath that matchup we had the

number 8 seed against the 25 seed, so very similar

to what we just had with 9 and 24. That was the

Outsiders against the Valiant Brothers. Apparently

nobody knows who the Valiant Brothers are because

nobody voted for them. So another selection 100

% outside just moving on one more for the good

guys. You guys here to see the Valiant Brothers.

Exactly. All right. So that is the top half of

the bracket there. We'll kind of go to what that

means for those guys heading forward and what

your thoughts are in a little bit. Let's keep

on moving though with the results down. One more

spot in the four seed against the 29 seed. The

four seed was the Rock and Roll Express. Very

heavily ranked on a lot of those lists that we

went of. One of them had them as high as four,

which is where they ended up on ours. And most

of them had them in the top 10, top 15. And they

are going against the Head Shrinkers. And this

is where it was curious rock and roll express

a little bit more of a classic old school team

head shrinkers a specific Time period we're talking

about just a few years in the 90s where they

were, you know, pretty popular obviously Some

of them went on and did other things etc. But

that was a four seed against a 29 seed and guys

This is our first upset of the day and it wasn't

even close 61 % head shrinkers 39 % rock and

roll express. So a four seed is ousted in the

first round by those chicken turkey leg eating

head shrinkers. What do you think? Oh, it's just

so funny. I wanted I wanted them to win so bad.

So I'm happy. But on the other hand, when you

talk about like these guys were ranked as far

as number four, the legacy behind these guys.

Sorry guys turkey eating Faux cannibals is what

we're going for not legacy at all. So you can't

I think we called it didn't we? Yes Pretty sure

we did that was our big upset on this side of

the bracket. Then we had one on the other side

as well Yeah, I mean 29 seed moving on past the

four seed. It was interesting It was a tie vote

on Twitter on this one one vote separation on

the website But double the votes on Facebook

for head shrinkers over the Rockwell Express

So another one heavily influenced by Facebook

there. All right Right below that we had an interesting

matchup the number 13 seed the brain busters

against the 20 seed the rockers Now we just looked

at a matchup right before this where we had a

classic rock and roll express You know, they

had been popular in some other companies, etc

Maybe before a lot of us started watching and

then we had the head shrinkers that were you

know, right in our alley You think you'd have

the same thing here because we got the brain

busters their classic Old -school team and the

rockers a lot of us kind of at least know a little

bit about But we do not have the same results

because the brain busters have 67 % of the vote

this time Situation it was clearly the team that

we knew more about with the head shrinkers that

seems like and then this one Did not fare as

well with the Rockers and we're talking about

double the amount of votes for the brain busters

here 67 % to 33 % Neil well, how do you kind

of consolidate or make heads or tails of that?

Well, I think the humanoids really went with

the with the correct team here Like I said last

week or however many weeks The Shawn Michaels

Marty Janetti both really good wrestlers But

this is not this is not prime Shawn Michaels

the prime Shawn Michaels comes later. The Rockers

are just kind of I Hate to call them a blip,

but they kind of were maybe they were maybe a

little more special in the AWA In the WWF they're

kind of watered down and they were just kind

of like this Tag team that you know kind of did

okay for a little while then started jobbing

a lot and then they broke apart with one of the

most famous episodes of the Barbershop one of

my favorites certainly that's basically what

they're known for right So I think I think I

think the correct team won What do you think

Matt? No, I'm with them. I think we all kind

of agreed on that show, too We're like the Rockers

are cool But you know, what's even cooler, the

brain busters. So, you know, what do you make

of that, though, in comparison to what we just

talked about with the head shrinkers annihilating

the rock and roll express? Maybe it could I mean

there could be a couple things in play I mean

there could be this like weird Senate cynicism

that we have is like rock and roll express That's

cheesy get out of here and the rockers We might

have the same kind of thing with that like the

rock and roll express the rockers They're both

out now and the brain busters. It's just like

a badass name like the brain bus I'm gonna bust

your brain and they were just a rough and tumble

tag team and I think people like the revival

a lot too So maybe people who? Thought like,

oh, why is it the revival when you're like one

because the revival jobs to everybody and they

never win anything and But it's a throwback team

and but people like aren't Anderson like this

was a classic aren't Anderson who was just I'm

aren't Anderson. I'm here. Just beat beat you

up. I don't care what it is and it's conflict

that clashing styles and I think this style just

kind of came through a little bit better than

the Rockers Rockers They're cool. But man aren't

brainbusters are way cooler than these guys.

So Neil, if we would have had the Brainbusters

versus the Minnesota Wrecking Crew at any point

in time, which we won't anymore, but if we had

had that matchup, is the right Arn Anderson team

moving forward? Yeah, I would say so. I'd say

you gotta give it to Brainbusters. Classic horsemen

line up. Half the horsemen, you got it right

there. Minnesota Wrecking Crew... I guess that

also represents Horseman, but I think Brain Busters

is just a little more iconic. Okay. Absolutely.

Let's move on to the last two matchups on this

side of the bracket. We had an interesting one

here because this is the first time that, you

know, we had a couple there in a row that were

like more old school classic versus 90s style.

Now we're going to have like more of a early

90s versus late 90s. So that's kind of interesting

to see how people would go. This was our 12th

seed against our 21 seed. That would be the New

Age Outlaws against the Money Inc. So Ted DiBiase

and IRS against badass Billy Gunn and the road

dog Jesse James How did you guys vote in this

one? I'm just trying to refresh everybody's memory

man. I I think it was I was kind of at an impasse

here because I like them both and I like the

nostalgia element of money, but I think ultimately

I went for the DX affiliated New Age outlaws.

I'm pretty sure I want that one. Yeah, Neil.

What did you say? Well, I had cashed in on Ted

DiBiase and written off IRS. I went with New

Age Outlaws. All right. So just interesting again

here, this is opposite of what we saw earlier.

So we have one vote difference on the poll and

Facebook was only one vote difference, only two

votes difference on Twitter. However, a landslide

on the website. The one team only got one vote

on the website. So that is why we're gonna have

a 66 % to 34 % win here for the New Age Outlaws.

So the New Age Outlaws doubled up Money Inc.

It wasn't nearly as close as I thought it might

be, because of the website mainly, but I thought

we might have a 50, you know, 55, 45, something

like that. But 66 to 34, that's nearly double

the votes for New Age Outlaws. But you guys guessed

it, you guys predicted it, that's what you wanted.

The panel should be happy And they will be fighting

the winner of this last matchup on this side,

which was our five seed against our 28 seed That

was the heart foundation versus doom So Quebecers

got no votes Valiant brothers no votes on that.

Those are the ones we've revealed so far doom

They got votes So 92 % only for the heart foundation

8 % for doom so heart foundation moving on so

we had a five seed had no problem the four seed

is out. Any reaction so far we're not getting

into the actual matchups that are happening now

but any reactions from who you've seen eliminated

on this side of the bracket run down real quick

with cobeckers out minnesota wrecking crew out

fujian to knock out valiant brothers rock and

roll express the rockers money inc and doom all

say goodbye neal any shock there. Not not a whole

lot you can't see it right now but i'm doing

the bread heart hand thing. Hey, how you doing?

Matt, was there any team that I just mentioned

out of the eliminated teams that you thought

might have had a chance to go on further? I mean,

the only one out of the group that could have

maybe had an outside chance would probably be

money ink just because of the gimmick. And it

seems like we like gimmicks so far in this countdown.

We like the head shrinkers. I mean, obviously,

we're a gimmick loving group here. So I find

that, you know, that's the only one that that

could have gone either way. But ultimately, I

mean, that's it. That's a tough draw for those

guys. So they just they just ended up running

into a. Buzzsaw of new age outlaws, but overall,

I mean, it's I mean I'm not surprised and it's

also showing who might be voting because all

these old timers are like Outside the brain busters

everybody else who's like older is out of here.

So yeah I will say this I will say this real

-life match. I would have loved to have seen

money inc versus the heart foundation never happened

Yeah, it's like and it was right in that era

too. It could have happened. It was perfect timing

almost but The other interesting thing on that

side is technically only one upset so other than

that the seeds somehow held up on that side so

I don't know if that means I seeded them correctly

or I just got lucky in that first round on that

side but Rock and Roll Express the only higher

seed that got knocked out so guess what that's

not going to be true on the other side so all

right let's go to the other side of the bracket

we're going to Let's start at the bottom and

work our way up like we did on the actual episode.

So the bottom right quadrant I guess if you want

to call it we had the six seated Hardy boys against

the 27 seed nasty boys Hardy boys nasty boys

Exactly Not much love for the nasty boys out

there. This one was one eighty eight percent

to thirteen percent eighty eight percent for

Hardy boys So some people voted for nasty boys

just not nearly enough. So Hardy Boys will march

on as the better boys there. No surprise there,

you guys both had Hardy Boys moving on as well,

correct? Yeah. Yeah, I would have I would have

loved to have seen Jeff Hardy get the pity city

though. I was just hoping for nasty boys against

bushwhackers. That probably happened in real

life I'm sure but I'm sure they partied. I'm

sure they partied before. Imagine a nasty boys

bushwhacker party. Oh boy. I don't want to be

there. At least not anywhere near them. The seed

in the matchup right above them was surprisingly,

in my opinion, surprisingly low seed for this

low high, not high enough seed for the Steiner

Brothers and an 11 seed against the 22 seed Steenboat,

Youngblood. No love for Ricky the Dragon as a

tag team, I guess. Maybe he'll fare better in

the top 100. Only one vote for the team of Steenboat

and Youngblood. Steiner Brothers, 94 percent

moving on. So no surprise there. Going up. How

about this matchup of 19 seed against the 14

seed? And this is the one that had the fabulous

freebirds against the natural disasters. Fabulous

freebirds, the team that became famous for having

three members. Being able to use any two at any

time and basically rotate them like they wanted

to depending on who they were facing Obviously,

that's been done a lot since but it had not been

done before natural disasters. There's not a

tag team in history I don't think that has weighed

as much as those two guys combined They're about

the weight of three people So it's a fair matchup,

I guess This was interesting guys because Twitter

had them just about even website went with one

team Facebook went with the other team One vote

separated the winner on this one. So one vote

more was cast for the Fabulous Freebirds. Oh,

my God. So a lot of classic teams getting ousted

on the other side of the bracket. One vote more

for the classic team here. Gimmick not friendly

on this one. Natural Disaster's losing. Matt,

what do you think? I mean, all we can do is.

Do do The exact same margin of victory that the

natural disasters had on the website was the

same margin that the fabulous free birds had

on Facebook Twitter though one more vote for

fabulous free birds than the natural disasters

Neil. What do you make of this one? Oh My god

people actually remember the free birds. Well,

they're iconic Michael PS Yeah, I could see it

happening. I knew it was going to be pretty close.

I kind of expected the money to go the same way,

but that didn't happen. So I could have seen

it going either way, I guess. For the record,

Fabius Freebirds were the higher ranked team

at the 14th seed over the 19th seed natural disasters.

Again, 52 % to 48%. That is close. Do you know

what's not close? When you put a match up of

the Dudley Boys against Public Enemy. That is

unanimous folks public enemy do not get a vote

from anybody 100 % they should even vote for

themselves. God, that's awful So 100 % for the

Dudley boys That means they're joining the road

warriors and the outsiders as the only clean

sweep so far So that is the bottom quadrant of

this side of the bracket Let's move on to the

top quadrant where we had another interesting

one classic versus Well, they were around from

the 60s, but most of us know them from the 90s

So this would have been the seven seed Midnight

Express Against the 26 seed bushwhackers. I believe

this is the other one guys Just like the head

shrinkers on the other side that you guys all

went bushwhackers. Am I remembering that correctly?

I think so. I pretty sure we did. Yeah All right.

Well interesting here the same amount of people

on the website That thought Midnight Express

should win equaled the same amount of people

on Facebook that thought the Bushwhackers should

win. However, Twitter once again comes in and

breaks the tie. We have a 55 % to 45 % on this

one. So that is pretty close here, guys. The

winners and moving on. Upset City, the 26 seed

Bushwhackers. 55%. Like putty in our hands. We

are the people that move, move the move the teams

around. For the record, guys, Midnight Express,

eighth ranked on Sports Illustrated, second ranked

on Den of Geek, 10th ranked on Bleacher Report.

What else were the eight ranked on New Arena?

Bushwhackers moving on. All right. Number one

in your heart. Neil, are we going to catch some

slack for this or what do you think? I don't

I don't know. Bushwhackers really aren't known

for being winners, but they sure stuck around

for a while. People loved them for some reason.

They probably had the most longevity on anybody

in the whole tournament. I can't imagine anybody

else that was around for more than 30, 40 years.

So do we just not like team names? Matt had something

he said, you know rock and roll and the rockers

But is it the rock and roll Express in the Midnight

Express? Is it the Express part or is it the

rocker part? I don't know. We don't like something

around that Express like what Express what do

you train? Do you have transportation units or

something like that? Like nobody cares I mean

the fact that none of us collectively could like

really remember one thing for the Midnight Express

I mean that that goes to show you where it's

like these guys at least to us aren't remember

I'm sure they have plenty of accolades, but you

know what the bushwhackers look people in the

crowd, baby. That's all that comes down to You

didn't like the bushwhackers. Do they have any

anybody that wasn't a fan? I think they had like

a hundred percent fan response They did when

they came out chugga chugga chugga. It was like

yeah bushwhackers are here. Like exactly. It's

amazing So that's like yeah go guys go go our

second upset of the tournament. We had the head

shrinkers on the other side We have the bushwhackers

on this side We'll have to see if there's any

other in the last final three matchups here We

had right above that the ten seeded British Bulldogs

Against the 23 seed brothers of destruction on

Facebook. We had a two -vote difference on Twitter

We had a two -vote difference on the website.

We had a one -vote difference So this is going

to tie the Fabulous Free Birds and the Natural

Disasters as the closest vote in the contest

with a 52 % to 48 % margin. Winners, moving on.

The 23 seed Brothers of Destruction over the

British Bulldogs by 4%. Matt? We were singing

we were all collectively pretty much singing

the praises of the British Bulldogs. We're like

they power They have agility, you know dynamite

kids awesome, even though he reminds these seven

care of another aggressor We don't like to talk

about we still probably won't talk about them

You know, and then you have the you know brothers

destruction and we were bringing up they know

we were talking about top of the show about the

whole August bringing together two superstars

for the sake of bringing together two superstars

and letting them do something so I mean it goes

to show you like what would happen if we included

more of those kind of pseudo gimmicky type Tag

teams in there would they have done as well as

the undertaker and Kane? But so Shawn and Michael's

not enough to carry the Rockers undertaker enough

to carry brothers of destruction I Mean Kane's

big too. I mean, yeah, I almost feel I mean and

we brought up last show Like I hated this version

of the undertaker biker undertaker sucks Kane

was always Cool. I mean, I didn't like him. I

liked him when he was talking with his like little

voice. My you're like, Hello, I'm your brother

type thing. So these are like, I think like the

two poorest iterations of The Undertaker in Kane.

Maybe that's why they paired them together. It's

like you guys aren't doing too well like single

let's collectively put you together and make

something happen. So I mean, I'm fine with this

but I hate being wrong. I think we all hate me

wrong Yeah, I mean I'm not saying that I've had

every single Reveal so far go the way that I

would have picked it not necessarily there might

have been one or two that I would have picked

a different way But but none of the results I

was necessarily against. Like, oh, you know,

I probably would have voted for this team, but

I can see why this team won. This one is probably

the first one I disagree with. I think the British

Bulldogs deserve to win in this one. Neil, what

do you think? It was kind of in the air. I kind

of guessed that this might happen, that the brothers

might might overcome the Bulldogs. I they're

just they're just. Four percent. I guess the

Bulldogs still got some pull. It didn't go like

the way that real life did though where the British

Bulldog gets to do like everything fantastic

and almost win stuff and just never win. I feel

like he was in a thousand Royal Rumbles and was

there for like number one until there was like

two or three left and then he'd never get to

win one. There was one where he thought he won

and he lost. What are you doing to this poor

gentleman? Typical British Bulldog. Baby boy

Smith. Poor him. Alright r .i .p Just throw it

in there just by the way, I mean he was facing

the undertaker so anyways two upsets in a row

There was only one on the other side. That's

two so far right in a row Let's see if that continues

or not We had the 15th seeded wild Samoans and

we know how well the Samoans on the other side

of the bracket did against the 18th seed Harlem

Heat 87 percent I just read a 15 seed and 18

seed. That's only a three seed difference. Apparently

people don't care. 87 % is for the winner. And

that would be Harlem Heat. So no love for the

Samoans on this side of the bracket. 87 % Harlem

Heat, 13 % Wild Samoan. So if you're a Samoan

fan, you'll have to double down on the head trickers,

I guess. Harlem Heat's moving on. What do you

think, Neil? Oh, absolutely the correct decision.

I love Harlem Heat. It's like when I switched

over to wcw in 96, I was like these guys are

awesome Matt, what do you think third upset in

a row? Yeah, that was that was a tough draw for

the wild smolens and having harlem. He'd be that

Low, you know 18 out of 32. That's gonna be I

mean That's that's that could be final four to

mature right there. I mean coming that depending

on who they I forget who they get next but I

mean definitely the right decision. I mean if

I'm gonna take one some own team I'm gonna take

the head shrinkers over the wild some Owens.

So but I mean sucka, you know So I got for you

sucka. I like it So the last one to be revealed

as far as results go for today would be our number

two seed edging Christian Against our 31 seed

the smoking the guns A couple things here. Number

one, we've just had three upsets in a row. Will

we see another one with the smoking guns? Or

we've had three unanimous votes so far with the

Road Warriors, the Outsiders, and the Dudley

Boys. Will we have another clean sweep for one

of these teams? It better be a clean sweep. Come

on, guys. I feel like there might be one or two

people voting for them. Billy gun voting for

himself because he wants to see the new age outlaws

Against smoking smoking guns at some point. I

mean we all want to see that don't we? Well,

apparently just as many fans that the nasty boys

have also were fans of the smoking guns because

this is not a clean sweep We have an 88 % to

13 % 88 % win for edge and Christian a couple

people out there voting for the smoking guns.

I'm sorry guys They are eliminated so edge and

Christian moving on so real quick Just like we

did on the other side of the bracket the losers

the leaving the tournament We will never see

them fight again. They will never have another

wrestling match the smoking guns the wild Samoans

the British boy Bulldogs, the Midnight Express,

Public Enemy, the Natural Disasters, Ricky Steamboat

and Jay Youngblood, and the Nasty Boys. None

of them we will see. Again, some big names there,

guys. Wild Samoans, British Bulldogs, Midnight

Express, Natural Disasters. Neil, what do you

think of all these teams leaving? I feel pretty

good about it. Bulldogs were really the only

upset for me. I think everyone else that lost.

deserved Matt any of those teams besides the

Bulldogs that you were pulling for are you fine

with them? Never seen a match from any of these

guys again I mean natural disasters would have

been fun fun little wrinkle to add to the tournament

But you know when you're that big you're gonna

go down hard so but it is funny when we think

about how we were kind of crap not crapping but

just kind of saying like ah with these classic

tag teams like the Midnight Express Rock and

Roll Express, but then we're all rooting really

hard for the British Bulldogs, which I still

consider and I know being a pretty classic tag

team, but it just might be because we do like

the Davey Boy Smith down the line because he

had much longer tenure as a single wrestler,

too. So maybe that's the thing, too. It's like

we remember. David boy smith like oh british

bulldogs are awesome. It's like were they awesome.

Maybe they weren't that good either, but david

boy smith was really good That's true. That is

true. All right, so that does it for the round

one results So that means we have our pairings

for round two we are going to take a 30 second

break and then we're going to come down and Throw

some more tag teams in the ring and see what

happens. So stick with us. We'll be right back.

Can you dig it? Can you dig it, sucker? Alright,

thanks for sticking with us guys. The bell has

sounded again. We have to make our way back to

the ring for more tag team action. This time

coming in the form of the second round of our

tag team tournament. Do you know what's funny?

I was just watching on the WWE Network to try

to prep for this and I've been listening to podcasts

about tag teams I was like, oh, let's throw in

some old -school stuff. This really had nothing

to do with tag teams But if it sounded like it

did when I clicked on it but there was a an old

WCW pay -per -view in which they did what they

called a lethal lottery and they drew names and

those whoever they drew had to be a tag team

and Then the winner of the tag team match both

of those people got to go into like a battle

royal And then the winner of the Battle Royale

get something. I'm only halfway through its mass

chaos I don't know what was happening in the

early days of WCW. Oh man Ted Turner's wrestling

network no rules, but I feel like that's what

we're doing here I'm like, okay, let's throw

some more tag teams into this tournament And

then what I mean the number of matches we would

have here this would have to be like a seven

-hour pay -per -view I'll wait the hour all our

nice seven hours. Anyways now nevermind. Okay

Let's go to the first match up in the second

round on the left side. Is that confusing enough

of the bracket? Where we see our number one seeded

Legion of Doom going against our number 16 seed,

the Russians. So the World Warriors or the Legion

of Doom, however you want to call them. Clean,

100 % unanimous victory over Quebecers. Do we

have another one coming here against the Russians?

Matt? I mean, this might be the end of the Russians

at this point. This might be their Stalingrad,

if you will. Sorry, I'm thinking of Billy Joel

for some reason. You never know, they could put

up a good fight and everything like that, but

it's hard when you are going against... to post

-apocalyptic football padwares, you know, crazy

guys who have a puppet as their other manager,

I guess, at a certain point. Remember Rocco?

He was he was fantastic. I mean, I think it's

just, you know, you can't deny how good the Legion

of Doom are. They're just they're cool. What

a rush. And they look awesome. The russians they

they squeak by um the I think we're throwing

them a little bit of a bone I think we wanted

to actually see this fight. We wanted to see

a bunch of lumbering russians Just get completely

beat down by Post -apocalyptic america, I guess

if you I mean I was hoping for the road warriors

against the minnesota wrecking crew because the

road warriors are from minnesota, so I believe

they're both from Minnesota. So I was like that

would be an interesting match I'm fighting some

of their own kind Roll around the snow a little

bit, you know, it depends Are they fighting in

the ring? Are they fighting in Russia? Are they

fighting in Minnesota? Are they fighting in a

post -apocalyptic wasteland? Are we just fighting

in? Are we fighting in Saskatoon? Canada, I mean,

where are we fighting here? I mean it depends

so but I'm still I think we're fighting in the

Thunderdome. Oh, well, well if that's the case

The Russians obviously no, but no, it's got to

be legion of doom. We had our fun with the Russians

Okay, now we're now we're getting down to brass

tacks get them out of this tournament before

they before they hack something exactly Don't

put this poll on Facebook. It's me bad news And

that's why they won last round exactly. What

do you think legion of doom clean sweeper? Is

somebody gonna vote for the Russians? I gotta

imagine somebody's gonna vote for that person.

I don't know why you would do that. You know

who's gonna win I think we got I think we got

a warmed over leftover from the Cold War here.

I think Team America is gonna pull it off Here's

my I was going with the Road Warriors 100 % Here's

my logic guys if we are in fact doing a tournament

of tag team matches the Road Warriors Or Legion

Doom, however you want to call them Just had

a cakewalk through the cool backers Like they

didn't even need to break a sweat to get through

that match. The Russians are coming into this

matchup hurt injured They just fought the Minnesota

Wrecking Crew like they barely survived. So not

only is it a tough draw, but they have to limp

in and fight a Legion of Doom team that didn't

even have to try against the Colbeckers. So that's

what I would say. Doomsday device pin. Exactly.

It's over. We're calling this one a squash. A

squash match. Just don't break his neck. As the

gorilla would say stick a fork in them because

they're done That is also guys the farthest seating

a part that we should well technically would

have it might not happen because of upsets But

that is the one seat against the 16 seats, so

Realistically if things went according to plan

all the other seedings would be closer That is

true for this next matchup because we're gonna

have a nine seed against an eight seed And I

am interested to see what you guys think about

this one for sure This is a tough match if I

could I could see this being a final four matchup

or something of that nature This is the number

nine seed demolition against the number eight

seed the outsiders That is tough there Um, demolition,

just to remind you guys, the lowest they got

or the highest they got ranked lowest. I always

say that wrong. The lowest they got ranked was

sports illustrated 23. Then they had a 15th rank,

a 13th rank, a seventh rank, and all the way

up to a two rank. Um, 698 days as WWE champions,

about a six year span as a legitimate tag team

outsiders. Left off of one of the rankings. Otherwise,

it was 11 9 7 and 6 and 475 days in the WCW as

champions Neil how do you Go about figuring out

a winner between demolition and the outsiders

and how close do you think this poll will be?

This is really close You know if this were to

happen in real life, I think the outsiders they

can they they out They also have the free bird

rule calling for them because they used to be

able to pull a box So he actually kinda counts

with them. I gotta go with the outsiders. I think

Crush is gonna hurt Demolition. I hate to say

that. Demolition is awesome, but once Crush became

a permanent member of the team, I think they

got hurt really bad. I tried to stay away when

I was looking at lists to try to help compile

the, the field of 32. I stayed away from any

lists that I knew were specifically biased towards

one organization or the other. So like WWE has

their list of best tag teams out there. And I,

I just threw that out the window because it was

going to be unfair to all the WCW teams, et cetera.

Um, but I did watch this last week, again, on

the WWE network, they have a top 10 tag teams

of all time where they selected the 10 teams

and then they let the viewers or the fans vote

on what order they should be. And Demolition

did make that list. So every time a new tag team

come up, you know, they'd spend five, 10 minutes

talking about them, interviewing some people

about them, et cetera, et cetera. So Demolition

came up and they did their whole little segment

on Demolition and not a one single person even

mentioned Crush. The entire time there was no

reference to a third member. They just talked

about the other two guys and their run. And that

was it. And then they moved on to the next ranking

team. So I thought that was hilarious. Matt,

what are you going to do with this one? Well,

you could look at this from a different couple

of different angles like if I'm thinking of demolition

Crush could be one of the two primary ones and

then you have repo man come in and help And so

that would be pretty awesome or if you're going

on the political side I mean could you know where

the outsiders really only champions for that

long time because of the backstage? Politics

and everything that was going on in the back

room and everything like that. Are they real?

Are they real fighting champions type thing?

I'm getting a little nerdy here, but I like it

So it's a and then now you got No, Fuji and Tanaka

are gone. So then you could bring Fuji back into

the fold and he could be thrown No salt in people's

eyes and with his bowler cap and everything So

you'd have a lot of cool things But then Eric

Bischoff will come out and he'll probably fight.

Mr Fuji or something like that to you and you

know ex pock or six pock will probably do like

spin wheel kick to get them get them both out

and then I Don't know and then you have what

was the Legion of Dooms finish finishing move

a lot of them. I mean That was doomsday. Well,

what was demolition? Was it like the oh demolition?

I didn't did they have a finishing move or they

just like you're dead Put put one guy over their

knee and then the other guy came up top rope,

I think yeah. Oh, that's pretty devastating I

mean the outsiders didn't really have a cool

Tag team finish move. I mean they had you know,

they had the jackknife power bomb They had the

razors edge which were the outsiders age. So

I don't know. I feel like potentially Even if

you have crush in there, little maybe interference

from repo man. They might have a chance demolition,

so I'm like I'm going to go with demolition here.

If I'm playing this scenario out correctly in

my head. Is Barry Darso going by the Mick Foley

rule where he can come out as any character he

wants? I think at this point you can't. I love

it. The other thing that you got to wonder is

will do people want to see something they never

got to see and that is. Demolition against legion

of doom in next round because they always claim

that demolition was a knockoff of the of the

legion of doom Well, they want to see those two

finally match up and finish this settle this

once and for all That would only happen if you

vote the demolition past the outsiders in the

next round. Otherwise, the NWO will have one

surviving team. Obviously, they only had one

entrance in the beginning, but this is their

only chance to make it further into the tournament.

So are there too many NWO fans out there where

outsiders are going to roll through on this one?

This is going to be tough to see how people are

going to vote. Outsiders may be a little bit

more recent. Maybe that helps them. NWO maybe

helps them. Demolition for a long time anybody

you asked and about WWE tag team champs that

would be one of the first names that came to

your mind so I Don't know. I don't know which

way I would go but I'm interested to see what

way the fans and the voters will go on this one

So we'll see anybody or really into leather Leather

spike leather How many Kiss fans are out there?

Is there many Kiss fans out there? That's the

question. Oh, yeah, were they more of a ripoff

of Legion of Doom or Kiss? I don't know. Let's

go down to the next matchup, which this is interesting,

because we had a little bit of an upset in the

first round here. So now we're going to have

a 29 seed against a 13 seed in the second round.

So that's interesting, obviously. This goes back

to the ones that you guys were pulling for early

We'll see if you continue to pull for them as

we go through here. We're talking about the 29

seated head shrinkers Got an early upset and

they will be going against the 13 seed Brain

busters. Hmm. So we have the head shrinkers And

the brain busters. What is it about the heads

with these guys? One wants to shrink your heads.

The other wants to bust your brain. So that's

what happened naturally on this one. So head

shrinkers. Didn't really make any list. I mean,

they were number 43 ranked on rancor, but otherwise

left off of all the other lists. We're talking

about Fatu and Samu, and they're going against

Arne Anderson and Tully Blanchard, who were 23,

15, 14, 12, and nine ranked and in the WWE Hall

of Fame and won belts into both the WCW and the

WWF. Neil, are you going to continue your Arne

Anderson love here or do the head shrinkers continue

to eat turkeys and turkey legs in the ring? Well,

only one team can win this spot and that spot

is my spot So I'm gonna I'm going Arne Anderson

horsemen brain busters 100 % Matt agree or disagree

Isn't that funny when he gave Kurt Henning that

spot and then Kurt Henning literally busted Rick

Flair's brain Let me think about it during during

the World War three or war games Yeah, I mean

you may have done it for the Rock But you're

not doing it for anybody else for Kishi. So,

uh, gotta go brain busters. You know, it's an

old school that you did an old school ass kicking

tag team. And this is probably the most ass kicking

tag team. I think we have like old school ass

kickers, you know, not this new school kids type

thing. So. So you're hoping for this side of

the bracket to be the Russians against the brain

busters so that Arne Anderson can get revenge.

Maybe you'll see it now. See now we're playing

up the proper scenarios now exactly It's like

you that other team may have beaten me, but you

won't beat me here. It's like this is weird comedy

This is very weird. What's happening here? I

don't get this time paradox. I mean, so yeah

brain busters. Come on. Let's get some old -school

ass kickers in here All right, sounds good. So

we were rooting for the brain busters Apparently

we like the head drinkers for a moment in time

and now we're turning our backs on them. Just

Valentine turned his back on us today Man one

more dig in there. Let's go to the last matchup

on this side of the bracket That would be the

12 seed against the five seed the 12 seed new

age outlaws who took out money, Inc But can they

take out the heart foundation? That is the question

new age outlaws Against the heart foundation.

This one is another tough one guys new age outlaws

top 20 on every list 500 days plus as champions

Heart foundation just under 500 days champion

top 15 on every list including a four a three

and a three A lot of love on all of these lists

for both teams a little more love on the list

for the heart foundation Matt DX or the heart

foundation Ladies and gentlemen children of all

ladies Oh God as much as I would like to See,

ah, man. Do I go for them the guys in the pink

tights or the guys with the Billy gun looking

like two white white Tupac with his headband

like tied around his head and everything like

that. I mean, it's It's a tough one because I

like them both And I have to really kind of take

it out of my mind about I love Bret Hart, but

I have to think of Bret Hart as a tag team person

here, not as a single competitor. So but if I

think about it, if it wasn't for Bret Hart getting

the Montreal screw job, you wouldn't really have.

The new age outlaws reaching the heights that

they probably did with Bret Hart not being there

in a WWF That is a stretch but you know what

I'm gonna stretch it as far as I can This is

a this is a tough one The other side of the bracket

yeah Hardy boys and edging Christian and those

guys this has been some interesting matchups

But it is hard to to figure out what would happen

with these guys against the heart foundation

like How does that match even go? I'm having

trouble even picturing it in my mind. Well, Matt's

thinking, Neil, do you have any way to help persuade

him one way or the other? Ooh, this is so close.

Both these teams are iconic. Both were around

for about the same amount of time, I'm pretty

sure. Yeah. One is very charismatic. The other

one is, well, Heart Foundation also very charismatic,

but more so I would give the edge of charisma

to to Night Heart, whereas Brett was just kind

of like the silent, cool guy who just looked

awesome and always had the best moves. Ah, God.

For this one, I think I gotta go with my heart.

Foundation I Mean if you're breaking it down

here the more technical in the ring would probably

have to go to heart foundation Even if it's even

you know if it's not a huge margin the mic skills

and things of that nature have to go to the New

Age outlaws I would think just because of their

prowess on the mics and that type of stuff Character

wise costume wise move wise. It's all pretty

close to me So it's more like do you like the

entertainers and the talkers or do you like the

ones that could actually wrestle better? And

that type of thing. I don't know Matt. What are

you thinking now? And it's it's still really

close because yeah Being charismatic is a big

thing And the fact you had two I feel like you

had two segments of the heart found you had the

old you had the the one old school heart foundation

with just knightheart and bread heart and then

they kind of have like the new heart foundation

with like more of a stable than anything else,

I guess so um, but you know I'm gonna keep i'm

gonna i'm gonna stick with the heart foundation

though It's hard for me to kind of turn my back

on on that team as much as it pains me to you

know give up on the new age outlaws but i don't

know this is gonna be closer than i think we

think than on the polls and everything like that

because i think we're kind of as neil said going

with our hearts and but i think everybody else

is gonna go with their maybe recency i think

they're gonna go well new age outlaws were around

a lot longer uh funnier the dx connection could

take them further as well too so to be continued

interesting i will i will make one last appeal

for brett here which is that Unlike Shawn Michaels

who I think gradually got better. I think Bret

Hart was always great. If you ever wanted to

see like a good example of tag team era Bret

Hart at his best, go to Survivor Series 1990.

Watch the match where it's like his team and

DiBiase's team. They're the last two guys in

the ring and they put on one hell of a show as

the last two survivors. Nice. To check that out

interesting on the WWE list that I did not consider

when I was making this obviously because of the

bias I talked about Heart Foundation ranked number

two on that list and the New Age Outlaws ranked

number four So they were both in the top five

on that specific list So we'll have to see that

could be one of the closest votes we get but

the other side has some crazy matchups as well

So let's make our way over to the right hand

side of the bracket where we're gonna have some

tough calls guys at least on two of these let's

start at the top with our um highest rank on

this side of the bracket that would be our number

two seed which is obviously edge and christian

tough draw but uh they're going to be going against

the number 18 seed which is harlem heat so edge

and christian um we know their prowess seven

-time champs to only 200 days but uh ranked number

two number two number two number four and number

ten across the board Harlem Heat, not as high

ranked, 36, 37, 18, 17, and 12, but 470 days,

10 times WCW tag titles. A long reign over a

decade for them, whereas the Edge and Christian,

not quite that long. Not as long of a tenure,

but maybe a bigger impact while they were there.

Neil, Edge and Christian, Harlem Heat. Oh my

god. Well, at least... This time around, it's

not going to be over a shampoo commercial. That's

a pull. Oh my god. God, I don't know. God, I

love Edge and Christian. Harlem Heat, both these

teams are great tag teams. Both had great charisma.

But only one of them has captain charisma. Even

so, god, I'm going to give a tiny bit of edge

to. For some reason I like the fact that Harlem

Heat had like the name and the outfits and like

they feel like more of a team even though I know

education was a great team I I'm always a sucker

for like more of the team element than just putting

two names together I don't know just a aesthetic

thing, but man the impact that Harlem Heat had

on WCW Has to be even greater than the impact

agent Christian had on WWE. I don't know. That's

tough This is a tough match up Matt. Help me

out It's it. I mean, this is another one these

things where you take two already charismatic

Like wrestlers even and they were I mean they

worked their way up I mean you remember them

from the brood and they were just like these

two non -speaking pseudo You know, you know emo

vampire type guys and then they became completely

different characters and everything and Harlem

heat though, I mean Iconic tag team who had a

lot of title reigns it had pretty substantial

title reigns too and they've known they've I

mean they had all the moves I mean They were

fantastic. I mean everything about them I really

love but I think at the end of the day people

Will likely vote with the TLC matches that have

just become probably some of the most iconic

matches in WWF or e history, whatever you want

to call it in the past I would say 20 years or

something like that. I mean everybody talks about

tlc one two and three, you know, that's those

are the matches everybody keeps going back to

and You know people might remember harlem heat

never had like the that one like real marquee

match that made you remember harlem heat outside

of how cool they looked and they had great matches,

but they were never of the Death defying like

oh my god. These guys are gonna kill each other

type thing. So As my heart says I would love

to see Harlem Heat win because I think as a real

tag. They're a real tag team not to say Edwin

Christian aren't but they were a Combination

that was created because these two guys can play

well off each other and they're brothers too

So I mean I don't know. I'm going Harlem Heat

because I'm going with I go back and forth, you

know I'm probably the most inconsistent person

you can have in the show gun like I don't like

these old guys They're too not normal for me,

but then I'm going Harlem Heat there that are

like a true tag team So I'm going Harlem Heat

For the record, in the first round, more people

voted for Harlem Heat than voted for Edge and

Christian. I know it's a different matchup. Maybe

some people felt like they didn't need to vote

in the Edge and Christian matchup. I don't know.

But we'll have to see if those... Your vote counts,

people. Yeah, we're getting into election season,

guys. Come on, you gotta vote. All right, let's

move on. You know, on the other side, we had

an eight against a nine. That was as close as

you can get, one seat away. Somehow we're getting

a matchup here that's only... Three seeds away,

but it's not what you would think. We have a

26 seed against a 23 seed. Because that's how

things work here guys. The 26 seed would of course

be the Bushwhackers and the 23 seed would be

the Brothers of Destruction. I would love to

see this match. What have we done? I think this

match would be very easy to write. You can have

a whole lot of fun being the agent on this one

and setting up a complete squash match here.

Alright, alright, I gotta get in here. Wait,

wait, what do we have here? Mean Gene, what is

going on in the locker room here? We have a run

-in. I've heard enough. He's coming back. Is

this the third man? What side is he on? WCW studio.

What are you talking about? I'm on my side. NWO

shirt. What is going on? I don't know what's

happening. Oh, you guys, this is DJ Valentine.

We thought he had left the company. He is back.

We don't know what's going on. DJ, explain yourself.

What in the hell is going on? You picked Harlem

heat over edge of Christian. I've heard enough.

I've got to get brothers of destruction and the

bushwhackers It's actually a good match actually

I think about it's a pretty good match. I gotta

Clearly be the bushwhackers running around I

think I think the Undertaker and Kane would kill

him in about two seconds But but the entertainment

value of the Bushwhackers is so high. I gotta

go. I guess I gotta go with Brothers of Destruction

though. I'm rooting for the Bushwhackers, but

it's essentially like, you know, that small puppy

versus that Great Dane. So yeah, I'm going Brothers

of Destruction and I'm here. You weren't here

before and so what we want to explain to you

is that we in the second round were the matchup

You're just talking about a 26 seeded bushwhackers

against a 23 seed brothers of destruction How

does a 26 seed and a 23 seed find their way to

each other in the second round? Brothers of Destruction

took out the British Bulldogs and the Bushwhackers

took out the Midnight Express. Well, that makes

sense. So what is your thoughts? What is your

thoughts about the Brothers of Destruction that

so far laying a path of destruction? It's because

it's it's the it's the Undertaker there in Kane.

I think people were voting with I know them.

Know them know with the British Bulldogs are

they if they were going with lineage they would

probably go British Bulldogs But they went with

hey, the other takers still wrestling today,

and I know Kane He's a senator or governor something

that and Matt's a home state. So Mayor Knoxville

darn it whatever the hell he is. He's a he's

in charge of the government, which is not that

far from who runs the government I Think they

won because of the the you know, they're very

popular But the the bushwhackers again, they're

just fun, but I think they're gonna get mud stomped

There's no way you're gonna take out the other

taker unless you have the urn if the bushwhackers

have the urn maybe Crikey, I got this urn! Not

even maybe they'd win, maybe they'd survive another

minute. Maybe they'd live. Neil, what do you

think? Brothers of Destruction, the 23 seed,

making it all the way into the Sweet 16? It's

gotta be the Brothers of Destruction. Or the

Elite Eight. Elite Eight. They gotta win this,

I mean, come on. But you know, if this does happen,

I want to see at least one battering ram. It's

gotta happen. Just for comedy's sake. Matt anything

to add on this one? How did we get here? Sometimes

these matches just write themselves. I mean,

you don't have to say anything. This is It's

gonna be something to see these these four great

Oh, yeah, the bushwhackers come down. They run

around the ring They try to avoid them in the

ring Then when the brothers of the destruction

get so upset that they turn their back and they're

looking at each other Bushwhackers attempt to

do a batting ram, which does no damage And it's

just a double choke slam and the game's over

Well, you know it might knock the undertaker

down just so he can do the sit -up thing. Yes

But this is American badass undertaker who barely

ever did the sit -up thing It's an American badass

undertaker. So this is different. This is different

era of undertaker I would also like to see Jamison

get the last ride. Put him in the, what's the

other one, Hell's Gate? Hell's Gate. Help me,

help me. Lost control here. Alright, let's, what

we're gonna do, DJ's here now, we're gonna finish

off this round and then I'm gonna give DJ a quick

second to comment on some of the other stuff.

But, let's move on now to our next matchup, which

is going to see the 14th, we just had a 26 against

a 23. Let's bring back to earth a little bit.

We're gonna have a 14 seed. Against a three seed

a little bit closer here So the 14 seed if you

guys were paying attention would be none other

than of course our fabulous free birds And they

are going against the three seed which happens

to be the Dudley boys Get the tables get the

tables Tables this is over come on guys the Dudley

boys are taking this to the championship round

There's nobody you're gonna put up against them

into the championship round that makes me even

Equivocate my loyalty Dudley boys all the way

look at that feather here get the hell about

here For the record Dudley boys the only team

on this side of the bracket that had a 100 %

margin of victory last round against public enemy

Can they do the same against fabulous reverse

would have been a better matchup if the deadly

boys would have faced the natural disasters Matt

Imagine trying to do the deadly death drop on

like typhoon or earthquake Yeah, that would be

that moment where Brock Lesnar suplexes big show

off the top rope and the ring just like gives

it's like I give up I can't do this. Imagine

like you've had like Stacey Keebler up there

like the Duchess of Dudleyville like kind of

seduce like tugboat or something like that. It's

like he would have eaten him. Yeah, probably.

So, you know, it's proof that Spike Dudley's

are high in fiber. But I mean. The Freebirds,

they barely made it out of the last round, right?

Barely. Barely. One vote over the natural. By

the skin of their Confederate flag. Barely made

it out of there. So no love for Michael P .S.

Hayes. Michael P .S. Hayes. Hey, P .S. Michael,

you're fired. You're fired! Neil, do you agree

Dudley Boy is in a cakewalk? Oh, God, yeah. Dudley

Boy are the most... Decorate a tag team of all

time and although the belts aren't real You don't

get handed don't get handed the titles that many

times without being one of the greatest tag teams

ever So it's got to be the Dudley's All right.

Let's move on then guys. That was the Dudley

boys against the fabulous, but no longer living

free birds. And we'll move on to the last matchup

on this side of the bracket, which has a number

11 seed against a six seed. So we're getting

a little bit closer here. That 11 seed, and I

can't wait to hear you guys take on this one.

The 11 seed, of course, is the Steiner brothers

and the six seed. is the Hardy Boys. Ooh, this

is a good match. Brothers against brothers here.

The Steiner Brothers against the Hardy Boys.

Before you guys comment, I'll give you guys a

little bit time to process, come up with your

arguments. I'm going to go over their stats a

little bit here. So, of course, the Steiner Brothers

ranked 29, 15, 12, 6, and 6. They held a lot

of titles in different companies, two titles

in the WWE, seven titles in the WCW. They've

been around for... Long time over a decade in

the business and then we had the Hardy boys ranked

eight seven five five five Seven WWE championships

and the one I guess you can call it WCW tag champion

chip Matt and Jeff against Scott and Rick Who

wants to start this one Matt? Hmm. This is a

battle of two clashing styles, you know, you

got the brute strength of, you know, the Steiner

Brothers, and then you got the high flying suicide

and kamikaze, and I don't know, that's not even

a thing, but I'm making it a thing. It sounds

like something like somebody would say up so

profiles like River was doing like color commentary

It's like he's always high flying or dusty roads

almost This would be an interesting match I mean

Power versus no, it's kind of like when we were

talking about earlier with the the rockers like,

you know high flying team versus like is I'm

gonna beat I'm gonna beat you up type of team

but uh W boys this could go that same direction

where people might go edge and christian against

harlem heat because and this is kind of like

kind of a mirror like a mirrored match almost

between harlem heat and uh, you know both two

w two primarily wcw tag teams against two primarily,

you know ww team so Will the tlc matches put

the hardy boys over the top? Probably will but

if you really like big papa pump, he's your hookup

holler if you hear him Love the amount of references

we get in here neil. What do you think about

starters and hard? Uh, I think I think both uh

hardy boards are gonna be broken after this one

I give the signers a 141 and two -thirds chance

of winning The references keep on coming. I always

count on Scott to count. The Steiner recliner

going on against the Hardy boys here. DJ, what

do you think? What are we making? Heads or tails

of the Steiner's don't got to hook up this time,

but no kissing of the biceps on this one. This

is going to be the Hardy boys all day. Um, and

it's mainly because, uh, even though the, the

Steiners might have the pedigree in terms of

titles, the Hardy boys, kill themselves. I mean,

they are jumping off of Titan trunks ladders

that can reach the roof of the building. Okay.

So in terms of pure entertainment, I think the

Hardy boys have the signer speed. I can't remember

a lot of Steiner matches. I remember them fighting.

But I remember Jeff Hardy climbing that fricking

ladder. You know which ladder I'm talking about.

Not the regular ladder. That huge ladder. I was

like, who built this? What building is this for?

What are you supposed to do with this? I think

what hurts the Steiners is that their prime was

when they were in WCW before anybody was watching

WCW. So I don't think a lot of us got to see

their traditional wrestlers. Hardys aren't doing

anything traditional. That's very true. Very

true. The other thing you got to wonder guys,

uh, does a big pop a pumps career afterwards

negatively impact people's view on the Steiners?

I don't know. He had some terrible matches when

he came back to the WWE. My question is looking

on the ring. Is anybody surprised at the Steiners

across the rankings that were listed on all the

other ones that we reference? Cause nobody had

the Steiners in the top five tag teams of all

time. And three people did not even have them

in the top ten Does that surprise you or do you

think these guys are these guys onto something

that they're not quite on that upper echelon?

WCW bias a little bit, too I think they're second

tier when it comes to tag teams of all the tag

teams in the world the Steiner's are recognizable,

but tell Name me like a really iconic Steiner

match. I remember when Sid Bush's broke his leg

off of You can't blame Rick for that one I blame

Rick Rick wasn't there Barking in the back the

Steiner's also had a good run in Japan. I believe

as well didn't yeah those matches So I don't

know if those were good But yeah, I think a lot

of people are putting the Steiner's here on the

second tier But interesting if you look back

at the first round more people voted for Steiner

brothers in their matchup then voted for Hardy

boys in their matchup I don't know what that

says about the future of this or what that will

entail. But Let's get your guys's technical votes.

I know DJ you said Hardy boys Neil. Who did you

say Steiner's? Steiner's Matt I'm going with

the Hardy boys I have to see what the listeners

think of that and all the other matchups But

before we do that, let's give DJ a quick minute

to react to some of the happenings and goings

-ons here as he was We're just gonna pretend

that you were infiltrating the other the rival

business. Yes You weren't actually being he was

firing the first shot. I was firing Michael's

in Triple H So since you were already here for

most of this side of the bracket what you didn't

see obviously we had edging Christian who beat

the smoking guns Handley go against Harlem Heat

who beat the wild Samoans Handley So we had edging

Christian versus Harlem Heat give your seconds

and thoughts in a second We then you came in

Brothers of Destruction beat Bulldogs Bushwhackers

beat Midnight Express We had the Dudley boys

over public enemy in a clean sweep 100 % Fabulous

free birds by one vote over the natural disasters.

Steiner brothers, 94 % vote wins over steamboat

and young blood. Hardy boys, 88 % winners over

the nasty boys. Um, any thoughts on this side

of the bracket? I know you were here for most

of it, but, uh, that we have going on here. I,

I, I'm telling you, and I think I said this last,

it's, it, this is, this whole bracket is going

to be leading up to Hardee's versus Dudley's.

Everybody else here is just a, just a innocent

bystander. I don't see anybody. I mean, the president's

instruction. It seems like they're they're stealing

their way to the to the top Because they have

American badass undertaker which man that you're

lucky your picture doesn't have him an American

badass attire because I think that would affect

some boats because he's wearing a traditional

undertaker attire if he if he if he wasn't then

I if it was just him in the jeans jacket and

the motorcycle I'm voting But yeah, I think this

is all this is all about the delis man, it's

all about 3d Alright, we'll have to see if people

agree or not We have we have some heavy hitters

there edge and Christian Harlem Heat Of course

the love for the Undertaker and the brothers

of the destruction Dudley boys Hardy boys Steiner

brothers a lot of iconic teams on that side So

interesting to see how that's gonna play out

Let's go back to the side that DJ wasn't here

for just to get a rundown and you give your guys's

thoughts I'm heading forward the rest of this

side of the bracket. We had the Legion of Doom

100 % winners over the Koveckers We had the Russians

beating the Minnesota wrecking crew by one by

two votes. We had demolition, 89 % winners over

Fuji and Tanaka. The outsiders, our third clean

sweep, 100 % winners over the Valiant brothers.

We had the upset head shrinkers over the rock

and roll express doubled up their votes. We had

the brain busters double up the votes of the

rockers. So the brain busters took out the rockers.

Then we had a Doubling up again where the new

age outlaws doubled the amount of votes that

money ain't got and then we had the heart foundation

92 percent winners over doom. That's right doom

did receive two votes. So that led us to the

matchups that we went over. We had Legion of

Doom. They voted for themselves. They might have.

So we had Legion of Doom against the Russians

in the second round. We have demolition against

the outsiders. We have the head shrinkers against

the brain busters. That's just weird that those

two got together. And then the New Age outlaws

against the Heart Foundation. DJ, your thoughts

on that half? other than the cranial connection

up there with this if you're telling me that

the new age outlaws doubled up who are they against

again i'm sorry they doubled up money ink and

now they're going against heart foundation they

double up money that means to me that they're

going against the heart foundation it's going

to be closer than people might think i think

it's going to be close for them to double up

The million -dollar man in IRS said that to me

says that they got a strong contingent out there.

So the bread bread heart and Jim Neville Niner

better watch out. I don't, I don't really care

who wins between the brain buses and the head

swingers. It's just a fucking matchup. I don't,

I, whoever wins, whoever wins, we win. Uh, and

I think the, uh, I think the demolitions runs

about the country because I know the outsiders

have a strong contention. I was, we were, we

were contemplating that people would be, um,

fixing the vote so they could see a Legion of

doom demolition matchup. Think you're gonna see

everybody anybody fixing the votes gonna be the

outsiders versus new age outlaws That's what

I think if you're gonna say you're gonna get

to the two bad boy teams going to get each other

If anybody's gonna fix boats, I think you're

gonna get a vote fix for that All right, Matt

at the beginning we talked about if there would

be any trends if classic teams if recency bias

if You know teams that had more recognizable

single people things of that nature I don't know

if any trends came out though because obviously

we had some classic teams like the Rock and Roll

Express Midnight Express Go down and and out

of this one, but then we also had the fabulous

free birds beat the natural disasters Which is

and the brain busters beat the Rockers So and

I don't know how to did you see any trends? Do

you can you predict the rest of the way? I mean,

I think we had everybody kind of had their fun

with the few. I mean, the matchups in the first

round were kind of like they could have gone

either way. And maybe we swayed them one. I mean.

Nobody in their right mind's really gonna pick

the head shrinkers to win something, but you

know we did so maybe we kind of like a Little

bit we fixed it. That's right people. We're fixing

the vote fixing it but I think it was funny that

we got rid of all these You know kind of iconic.

I mean you got rid of my quote -unquote iconic.

I mean if you're from the you know, um ovw wrestling

era you're from like, you know, the Wwwf and

things like that that era, you know, you're probably

like, oh man, I can't believe the midnight express

lost But then that express the rock and roll

express This wrecking free birds beat the natural

disasters By the skin of their teeth they beat

the natural disasters So I think there was some

a few kind of you know, we had some flukiness

happen But I mean, I think you know, you're getting

a you're getting a gauge of like who's voting

to I mean None of us was like, come on, Midnight

Express. I mean, I was confused between the Midnight

Express and Rock and Roll Express. I mean, that's

how confused I was. So I think the trend is that

we're going to start, of course, seeing the teams

that everybody knows. Like, this is going to

be kind of cut and dry, I think, this round right

here. We'll see. Maybe we'll get a few kind of

sets here, but it's hard to tell this one. This

is the good ones start coming out. So, yeah,

I mean, I think you got a lot of blowouts in

that first round, even though we had closer than

I thought with a bunch of in the fifty five,

you know, fifty two percent, fifty five percent

in a couple of these matchups, another fifty

two, another fifty six. But this time, I don't

know, as we get close going further, it seems

like the matchup should be closer as far as percents

go. We shouldn't have too many blowouts, but

I could see a blowout, obviously, with the Legion

of Doom and the Russians. And I could see Blow

out with brothers of destruction and the bushwhackers

and Dudley boys and free birds. I see all those

three being blowouts Steiner brothers and Hardy

boys That seems to me like that should be pretty

close new age outlaws heart foundation should

be pretty close Demolition outsiders to me is

pretty close Neil. There can only be eight teams

that move on Do we have a good mix to have a

great elite eight going forward? I think so.

Yes And any predictions or any dark horses that

you're putting your money on to to win one of

these closer matchups between like the demolition

outsiders Heart Foundation New Age Outlaws Hardy

Boy Steiner's I Was kind of tough to call a couple

of them are really close. I'm really got my eye

on Heart Foundation and New Age Outlaws. I don't

know how that's gonna go And like we said at

the beginning guys, there's multiple ways to

vote for these polls and it was interesting too

to see the difference between those who went

to our website versus those who voted on Facebook.

Twitter seemed to be pretty close on all of the

matchups. margins there except for Harlem Heat

and Wild Samoans probably had the biggest margin

on Twitter. But interesting to see some people

that website voted one way, Facebook voted the

other way. So those are your three ways to vote.

You can go to the website, you can vote all of

them right on one page. You don't have to wait,

you don't have to find them, they're all just

right on one page. You go to geekcastradio .com,

there's a post there that'll say the tag team

tournament. You click on that, you can vote on

all 16 matchups right there. If you don't want

to do that, you can do it throughout the week

because we will have these polls once again scheduled

at different time increments on our Facebook

page throughout time. So usually one in the morning,

one at night, that type of thing where you can

wait and vote for those. And Twitter, they don't

let you schedule polls. So we just kind of have

to put those up randomly. So you have to keep

an eye on our Twitter page if you want to do

that. And if you're really Feeling real strong

about a team. I suppose you could vote in all

three methods, but that's just the way the world

works now. I guess you can multiple votes. You

can vote if you're dead. You can vote all kinds

of ways. So if you're dead in Chicago, how can

you do that? Well, Matt, but you ask. I'm a ghost

and I'm not really here. So that's how that works.

So that will, as soon as you're hearing this,

you're able to go to any of those three things

and start voting and you'll have about a week

to get your votes in. But some polls, like I

said, if they're posted later on in the week,

you have less days to vote. So don't hesitate

and don't procrastinate, I guess is what I should

say. I should have a mic or something here in

the middle of the ring here with my rhyming.

All right, DJ, anything last words you want to

say? I know you were late to the party. Any reactions,

words of wisdom, advice for the voters? What

do you think? How can people get in touch with

you? I'm on Twitter at trying to be DJ V and

I also share the account with this Miscrete right

next to me Matthew Stewart at simple tweeters

and my last thought for this round is guys It's

the Dudley boys. What are you really wasting

time for? It's the Dudley boys. Let's go. It's

the Dudley boys 3d get the tables Matt, what

do you think? How could people get a hold of

you? And what are your last thoughts on this

second round? Like my former tag team Yeah, you

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on net like it Neil obviously this whole tournament

is to what people's appetite is to get the brain

and gear to start the wheels turning to start

thinking about our Ultimate project at the end

of the year wishes our top 100 wrestlers of all

time. Is it getting you interested? Is it succeeding?

Do you think people are going to be ready to

talk single wrestlers here at the end of all

this? Oh, yeah, I'm looking forward to that one

in particular so many great singles wrestlers

I I had my hit my ready to go pretty early on

I just But that was that was quite an epic thing

to put together of that hole And I was updating

it like pretty late into the game too. I was

oh, yeah that guy bumping people off my list

and My prediction is that this top 100 is going

to be the hardest one to predict out of all the

ones we've ever done because there's so many

different areas and there's so many different

ways people can go when they're when they're

putting more weight on this person versus that

person. So we'll have to see if that holds true.

You know, we had our top 100 animated series

and I think everybody predicted that it was either

going to be Simpsons or Batman the animated series

at one point. So I mean, that one was a little

bit more easy to predict that type of stuff.

So we'll have to wait and see. One was for series,

one was for movies. No, the movies one. What

is that? Lion King, I think, was predicted pretty

heavily at the top. Series was Batman the animated

series. So this one, I don't know, could be a

lot of different ways. Neil, how can people get

in touch with you? It's Neil Sama on Twitter,

and I do goofy cartoon comics over on DCN .com.

Absolutely, and I am at Optimus Solo on Twitter.

Again, direct all hate towards me about who's

not in this tournament, who is, and all that

stuff, and I will try to give you the method

behind the madness. And you can also tweet at

GeekCastRadio if you have any questions about

the polls, the voting, or how any of that stuff

works. Tune in. I know we had a two -week break

for this first round because there were so many

matchups. There will only be a one -week break

here between this and the next episode. So next

time we crown the Elite Eight, there will be

only eight teams left when you hear us next.

And then obviously after that, we'll go to the

Final Four. Hopefully you're enjoying this whole

process. Tune in next time as we get back in

the ring and throw a bunch of tag teams in there

and see who comes out on top. That's all for

today, wrestling fans. Tune in again for our

next turnbuckling episode, Hard Knocks and Wrist

Locks or... The Ding -a -ling gets his bell rung!

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