90s Villains Tournament Round 1 Part 2

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GCRN Wars, and we're back with the second episode

of the 90s villain tournament. Actually, it's

the first round, second side of the bracket,

but... semantics. Joining me is... Moirault Dan,

how's it going? Pretty good. So... How did you...

How did you, uh... Like the, uh... The head -to

-head... Voting on the first episode of this

Well, I haven't haven't looked well, I don't

know if it changes last on my last my check but

um Somewhere closer than I anticipated some went

the way I expected, but I don't think there's

any major upsets. It could be wrong but I was

more surprised that some weren't bigger blowouts

of anything Yeah, I kind of in some of them I

was a little surprised at who won and some of

them were kind of neck -and -neck through the

entire thing And some people if they just didn't

know who the characters were they just didn't

vote for them Which you know if I didn't know

the characters I probably wouldn't vote on them

either Yeah, or if they're both losers. I wouldn't

want to vote on them So, Jenaid Disaster said

some of these characters I've never heard of,

so hard for him to argue one way or the other.

Lord Zed and Apocalypse is probably the best

matchup. Both have a chance to go all the way

to take on Dark Phoenix who will probably crush

everyone, although Hades is a Dark Horse too.

Epicurious says, well, about 60 % of the characters

I've never heard of are in the case of Moriarty.

Never watched that version of them, so have little

to comment on. A lot of them he says I do wish

Skeletor and Zed faced off because they would

be more fair and epic battle which I kind of

agree to some degree but Yeah, it probably would

have been a better match off that way Possibly

I mean I could see that and in apocalypse and

Phoenix. Yeah I guess that's that's a good point

I think the winners wouldn't have changed though

if that makes sense Yeah, I don't think so either.

I think if anything, I think that they would

have been more neck -and -neck on At least those

two characters if they were they were battling.

I still think I think Zed would have destroyed

Skeletor. Oh, yeah regardless, so And then Brian

Jackson says well the next section have more

live -action villains hope to see more outside

the typical cartoons Sorry to disappoint There

really weren't that many and I was going for

Saturday morning cartoon and or kid program villains

more than I because if I was going to go into

Pure live -action film or something. I would

have had to have like the T 1000 or yeah Hans

Gruber or you know, just various characters in

that kind of realm And what will let us reserve

those for the top 100 countdown? I can't really

think of many live -action Live -action shows

you get villains from I mean they were like the

other knockoffs of Power Rangers like the Beatleborgs

and what -have -you, but the Beatleborgs and

the There was the our troopers VR troopers and

superhuman samurai squad, which again none of

those I have any real I mean I watched Beatleborgs

when it was on but they I don't remember a like

set villain I just remember the guy that looked

like Jay Leno. That's all I remember. Yeah, and

he was he was flabber Yeah He was their like

their special genie in a sense and then the the

beetle borgs themselves were They reuse those

costumes as villains in Power Rangers episode

forever red Really? Yeah, and they were villains

in that so it was kind of funny all the red rangers

fighting these beetle borgs So yeah without further

ado we'll get into the The winners of the matchups

the first battle was between Reese's to and professor

Moriarty and Moriarty took it away with 94 %

of the vote Yeah, that one looks like I think

we mentioned we that's what we expected so yeah,

and then kind of a similar upset in the Mandarin

and leader Mandarin took it at 62 % I'm I'm surprised

that's not higher like I like I want to know

the people that voted for the leader I want to

know they're the rent the reasoning for that

cuz I'm I I'm curious to see what we'll think

it like why they think they voted leader or people

just mad over the Mandarin still from Iron Man

3 or or what have you but I'd be interested to

hear that yeah well there were also five less

votes on this one which I think accounts for

part of it so So getting into the next one, we

have Dark Phoenix versus Skeletor. And oh, I

didn't know that if you hover over it, it tells

how many people voted for those characters. Still

playing around with the new features, which in

the future I'm probably going to have to pay

for. But I really like how it turns out, though.

Dark Phoenix got 15 votes at 88 % against Skeletor's

two votes at 12%. Nice yeah, I'm guessing some

He -Man fans are just like no I'm going to El

Tor all the way well in the other thing too That's

kind of funny is even He -Man fans aren't a fan

of the new adventures of He -Man Yeah, so I mean

to me. This was my Skeletor when I grew up to

begin with Okay, so like I remember this one

The best I mean granted. I only saw the movie

thing, but and then a couple episodes, but still

The High Evolutionary versus Dr. Luther Paradigm.

And that one is High Evolutionary moving on with

9 votes and 69 % of the poll. Interesting. That

one was a toss -up for me. I didn't know who

would go, but High Evolutionary. Interesting.

Alright. So, this one I feared was going to be

a battle of the wills, but... Negaduck versus

Don Carnage. They were neck and neck with, there

was 19 votes total. Negaduck took it with one

vote. Really? Over Don Carnage, yes. Wow. I was

quite surprised. Yeah, I mean, people love their

Darkwing Duck and I think he's more, probably

more recognizable as a villain than, Don carnage,

but wow, that's that's a close vote. See votes

and vote because it does matter Yep, and The

next mark matchup is between dark cat and Lord

dragonis and dark cat took it with 10 out of

the 13 votes at 77 % which we kind of figured

yeah You know like who Lord Dragones reminds

me of? The boss in dinosaurs. Yeah, he does Looks

like that guy. It is that era. So yeah, it could

have been that that reasoning so I wonder if

Disney owned that at the time They do now probably

so I'm sure they do now so The next vote was

between skull master and Hades Very similar upset

to a previous vote It was down to one vote and

skullmaster took it Really? Yep But he's more

sinister than I'm not saying that Hades wasn't

because he had you know the entire underworld

under his thumb But he was also kind of a bumbling

idiot at the same time True true. So that's the

only thing he had going for him. That was negative

Yeah, I mean the photo use for skullmaster does

like pretty pretty intense So I could see people

just like oh just you know voting it for based

based on that so the next battle I was kind of

surprised but not really because This I think

was a popularity contest of who people knew best

It was scarab against Jafar and Jafar took it

with 11 votes out of the 14 with 79 % of the

vote Nice. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. I

like it I think last week we said we thought

scarab would probably would should win but not

surprised that Jafar took it because you know,

everyone loves Aladdin Yeah, everybody loves

Aladdin. It's that first movie was pure gold

Yeah, so and then getting down to our last two

fights of the left side of the bracket we have

Lawrence Limburger against Bloth and It was a

little more evenly matched But Bloth took it

with 11 votes out of the 18 and 61 % of the vote

nice Which pirate controlling dark water? Yeah

Against alien running business It's just yeah,

there's kind of no contest there Yeah, yeah And

then the final battle was between apocalypse

and Lord Zed This one I'm interested in cuz like

I you know, I think apocalypse could win it But

I know you know what there's a lot of power rangers

fans. So Zed could pull up like Jafar like upset

Apocalypse took it Nine out of the 14 votes was

64 percent. I would have loved to seen Lord Zed

go further in this fight. But I think the only

way that would have happened is if I had pitted

him against Skeletor. But then we would have

been dishonored by losing either Apocalypse or

Dark Phoenix. Yeah, that would take out two really

big heavy hitters. Interesting. So yeah, we get

to go on to the next side of the bracket. Which

is awesome. So getting off first on the on the

bracket today, we have King Koopa versus King

K. Rool. I figured this was like the most interesting

battle because you have two kings that are both

alligators in a sense. And I know Koopa's strong.

Turtle Gators. From the Mario show. Yep is is

K. Rool from Donkey Kong. Yep All right, so I

figured that these two would be kind of interesting

Because King K. Rool is more evil in the game,

but the animated series He's a bumbling idiot.

Whereas King Koopa actually comes up with some

pretty decent Concepts of taking out the plumbers,

but I mean still ultimately fails Yeah, yeah

Wow, this is interesting. I feel like I would

go Koopa because I feel like he's kind of the

original and you know, he's When basically he

was kind of I don't want to say copied we consider

the clearly see the influence there Probably

is the size of the size advantage and he has

got his that shell too So he's got basically

a giant alligator plus like the protection of

a turtle so Don't know. I feel like he he's got

the advantage pretty much in every category and

he kind of breathes fire I think too and yeah

as kids so As a lot of bratty kids, yeah Yeah,

so I think I think King Koopa takes it just because

he's he's got a lot more going for him in that

department Whereas the Donkey Kong show was basically

a lot of just bumbling idiots And and Koopa was

kind of a real deal. Yeah So and he is the you

know original the original Villain of kind of

the Mario verse so if you don't count Mario is

the villain Yeah, or Donkey Kong or Kong from

the first very first game so in the next fight

we have ink which is from Batman Beyond a shape

-shifting saboteur basically like Clayface, but

different. And then you have Shadowmaster from

Double Dragon. So I'm not the only one that watched

the Double Dragon cartoon. No. I'm glad. Oh man.

Interesting. Didn't I don't I don't remember

a lot of it, but I remember watching it enough

on the Saturday mornings Because I basically

would sit there from six o 'clock in the morning

until cartoons stopped As a kid. Yeah, I remember

actually was on Sunday mornings where I was and

it was like I just remember the glowing chests

of the double dragons and actually we watched

a little little bit of it because we recently

did the Dragon Ball We'll get to that later.

I recently watched Double Dragon, the movie for

Cinema Geek, so I wanted to see some of the old

cartoons. I know you're the big Batman fan, so

I would be interested to hear who you think would

take this baton. For one, I think that Ink is

very capable and very intelligent because not

only did she manage to almost Choke Terry McGinnis

Batman Beyond out by going down his throat But

she also infiltrated the Batcave Which not many

villains have managed to do aside from like Joker

and Ra's al Ghul and so on but Especially in

Batman's old age and It took Batman using mr.

Freeze's freeze gun to stop her Because everything

else failed and then even then when she came

back later She still knew who he was and Batman

had to don a special suit that was impenetrable

just to fight her So she's very powerful And

then of course we have Shadowmaster Who has the

the evil black flame power And I think he he

can't well at least remember in the movie he

was able to possess individuals as well Which

I don't know if you'd be able to do with ink

because of her kind of you know, we're we're

composition of and whatnot, but Yeah, yes Some

sort of martial arts. Yeah, he knows that the

he's well versed in the dark arts drawing all

his power from the black flame He wields a unique

half sword half scythe weapon which he can detach

to wield each half separately and Shoot blasts

of dark energy and teleport as well as walk through

shadows at will So This is actually quite I think

an even matchup because he like he could be one

of the few people that could you know sneak up

on ink with his shadow ability. Man, I still

like my gut goes with ink just because there's

so many limitations on how you can take her out.

And even when you do, she's kind of, I don't

know, she's almost immortal in a way with her

shape shifting ability, like you mentioned, like

clay face. So I guess, you know, there's, I would

find it. Find it difficult for Shadowmaster to

find a way to take her. Yeah, I kind of I would

be kind of pining for him to Put up a good fight

But I don't know if a scythe and and physically

Fighting or shooting energy at her is necessarily

going to be the thing that works Because she's

kind of that that mercenary hired hand and and

just the fact that she can infiltrate just about

anywhere so even if Shadowmaster could teleport

around her she still would have the element of

morphing her body into something they could decapitate

or Choke him to death Good points So be interested

see how that one goes yeah, I'll be very interested

this this side of the The the lineup should be

a lot easier for people to decipher being that

these were more of the mainstream albeit somewhat

different, but more of the mainstream animated

series that everybody should have at least been

exposed to at least a little. So we have on the

next part of the bracket, Dr. Wiley from Mega

Man and Dr. Doom from the Fantastic Four. Yeah,

to people who love making robots. Yep, making

robots and evil doctors. So for Dr. Wiley, did

he make Mega Man or or or was Mega Man a separate

creation? Mega Man. And actually, the funny thing

is, is Mega Man, Proto Man and Gutsman and Cutsman

were all made by Dr. Light. And Dr. Wiley stole

Proto Man, Gutsman and Cutman. I see, I see.

And then he was able to, from that, create his

own robots. See, I think that kind of makes me

think to go with Doom, because Doom doesn't really

need to steal plans of other individuals. One,

he wouldn't want to, because he would probably

believe anyone else's plans are beneath his.

And there's not many more people more cunning,

especially in the Marvel universe. Even in the

cartoon, he was able to steal the power of the

Silver Surfer. You know he go toe -to -toe with

the Galactus. He's basically, you know, almost

nearly a god. So doom Doom is not to be messed

with So plus so that's that's my you know, I

think he would not nearly as much trouble with

Mega Man as Wily does but again, I I could be

wrong because I think you know much more about

Mega Man than I do I know I know quite a bit

about Mega Man But I don't think he would have

much of a chance against dr. Doom and doom's

army Because it would be more I think Mega Man

X would have more of a ability to fight against

Dr. Doom than Mega Man classic would But even

that I think that it would still be sorely outmatched

Yeah, and plus Doom isn't afraid to get his hands

dirty and Wily tucks his tail and runs almost

Team Rocket style from Pokemon so I don't know

I think I think Dr. Doom would take that I think

I think he's a very formidable Villain and that's

not only does he weld magic and technology, but

he's very brilliant Yep Any time travel to you

so he's got a lot going for him. Yeah, and he

He is one of the few villains that went to the

2099 timeline in the comics. So Yep, so next

up in the bracket. We have two GI Joe contenders

from two different series Iron claw from GI Joe

extreme Which is a very odd? Series and again

this villain was voiced by Richard Newman Who

played Rhinox in Beast Wars kind of like the

high evolutionary Yeah Against Cobra commander

from the deep series, which was Chris Lada and

then Later on it was it was done by Scott McNeil

So But this was more of a a cartoonish deep version

of GI Joe so Man I I am I'm torn on this one

You know what? You know my I'm always more of

a Cobra commander fan commander fan from back

in back in the day from you know, the original

80 series, but I'm not sure Where would you?

Where would you cast your vote? see, I have this

this this love of this particular Cobra commander

and just because He gets the the face mask the

like the the rag that he puts over his head,

which you don't get to see in the Sun bow series

He's got that face plate that you just you don't

see anything And then he's got the the silver

battle armor, which I really love in the the

deep series And there was a lot of weird stuff

like they're in the GI Joe and in Cobra and oh

we're fighting You know pollution and and you

know the all that stuff from the 90s that They

they were pushing into cartoons almost Captain

Planet ask but uh a lot of it was real hokey

like Cobra Commander had some of his his troops

Doing once they brought him back from being the

snake from the GI Joe movie Because this was

kind of the next evolution after that yeah and

they brought him back to being a man after and

some they had like rock concerts to take over

the world and weird stuff like that so like I

don't know if I would take him seriously enough

but I just I couldn't resist bringing him back

for the the 90s lineup being that he was in the

80s as well just like Skeletor I think iron claw

would would possibly take him, but he's almost

kind of he's more serious, but he's not He's

not probably as cunning and Capable as some of

the other villains that will come up in the next

few But he's definitely more capable than Cobra

commander at this point in Cobra's life. Yeah

And I want to vote Cobra, but I almost think

Iron Claw should take it. When in doubt, vote

Cobra. My guess is Cobra is going to win just

because he's probably more of a popular character.

But for those aren't Claw fans out there, I would

be curious to hear their thoughts on why they

think he would take out Cobra, because I could

be swayed. I'm not personally tied to either

one. Yeah, um I I think I'll go with with iron

claw as much as I don't want to do that Dirty

I I feel dirty for going against corporate commander

here just because I like doing the voice too,

but Yeah, I think that I'll go with that Yeah,

so I should get on to the next one yeah, oh this

one's gonna be fun Yeah, we have green goblin

from spider -man the animated series against

the Joker from the DC animated universe man You

know, I I think you hinted out last week that

Mike I think Advice going with hobgoblin since

Mark Hamill did voice of hobgoblin, but green

goblins a better character in my opinion he's

you know, the original goblin and you know Two

characters that are so similar to one another

You know Green Goblin being Norman Osborn Gone

crazy basically with with a serum and Joker just

being crazy Because he fell in a serum. Yeah

Possibly yeah, man You know, you know Green Goblin

does have, you know, he has all of his crazy

weapons as Joker does. He does have enhanced

strength and Dexterity and things of that nature.

So, you know, a hand -to -hand fight, I think

you probably, you know, Joker doesn't have a

chance, but Joker is Going against Batman day

in and day out and he's been able to last this

long. So I told you something man and He is crazy

enough to think that to find a way to just basically

He's being so unprotectable And the other thing

I think that it could kind of go either way I

mean you've got the hang glider and the the throwing

pumpkins from Green Goblin But he's very much

a Spider -Man rendition of the Joker in a sense.

Like they're both kind of the same. They're both

kind of brilliant. They're both crazy. They both

have like this enhanced ability of just not dying

in weird situations that they should be. And

they both like scary as heck when you're a kid.

And Joker has his acid from his flower. He has

the ability to turn people into basically dead

statues of big grinning fools. I don't know.

It could be difficult. But if you take away some

of their gadgets and it's just crazy person with

crazy person, it's kind of hard. I'm pining myself

personally for the Joker. That's just because

it one -ups because you have the craziness and

then you have Mark Hamill voicing him. Yeah,

which is Ultimately what would push it over?

Yeah, if you ask me what character I prefer more

I would definitely go Joker but if you're in

a fight I'm inclined to go with Green Goblin

because I think he he is He does have legitimate

superpowers Compared to that of the Joker and

unlike Batman Green Goblin has no issues killing

And but I think the one weakness is the fact

that you do he somehow even more unstable than

Joker because Norman Osborne is kind of it's

almost multiple personality where Joker is the

Joker but I don't know I I I would not have an

issue of Joker wins, but I think I would push

custom to come to shove I think Just with the

power alone the Green Goblin probably win, but

we'll see Yeah, I think that in a sense Joker

could win just because he's Capable of cheating

the scenario and getting in people's heads enough

to get them to do what he wants because Slayer

in Batman Beyond return to the Joker he in the

flashback managed to Torture Robin to the point

you got all the information about Bruce out of

them and push the right buttons to get Bruce

to kind of just start wailing on him, which is

what he wanted. And then he stabbed him in the

leg and then probably would have got a little

bit further if it weren't for the fact Robin

got involved and killed him. So. But yeah, it's

kind of a hard toss up here. This this will be

fun to watch on the voting. So. We'll move it

on to Captain pollution from Captain Planet and

bad rap from extreme dinosaurs Captain This right

here is like essential 90s the evolution Anti

-pollution and then something related to dinosaurs

because they were so big in the 90s. You had

Jurassic Park. You had dinosaurs TV show You

had a lot of dinosaurs themed thing. So this

is a very great representation of the 90s man

So that's actually quite funny I don't know.

I feel like captain pollution was specifically

made to go after captain planet. So would he

have the same effect like Throwing pollution

at a dinosaur with metal teeth. I don't know

I Had a dinosaur with metal teeth to me is Kind

of unbeatable, but you know I I guess something

killed the dinosaur so maybe it was pollution

well Captain pollution has flight super strength

and He's completely insane and destructive However

He needs to be summoned with rings of destruction

So if bad rap ate the rings or chomped them with

his metal teeth, I would say that would be game

over right there. Stop him before he ever starts.

But I feel like just the fact he's a dinosaur

would be less susceptible to the same stuff that

Captain Pollution would be dishing out. Yeah,

so. Yeah, it's... But Badrap also has a weapon

that he got briefly from Argor Zardac, which

was a dissolve solid matter gun. Like a weapon

that can dissolve solid matter. So, you could

have used that too. Think bad rap would take

this one But it could be wrong yeah, yeah You

never know. I mean I guess like the flight does

give him a big advantage. So That's that's also

possible. But like I said, I think you know his

I don't think his pollution like aspect would

have much of a impact so So moving on we have

from gargoyles David Zanatos voiced by Jonathan

Franks aka Riker from the Star Trek TNG who's

an extremely wealthy influential and authoritative

businessman who is also The former secondary

antagonist of the gargoyles, but he's also the

reason why The gargoyles were brought back and

Yeah, he he created a bunch of robot clans robotic

versions of the gargoyles Made himself his own

Iron Man suit of a gargoyle so yeah, he He's

a very rich basically Opposite of Iron Man And

then you then you get Lex Luthor who's a very

opposite version of Iron Man Fighting Superman

and having his own armor, which is powered by

kryptonite and creating the tallow and live wire

Yeah, so it's kind of a toss -up yeah, this is

yeah Who do you think would win? I'm inclined

to go Lex Luthor because he is, Lex Luthor is

one of the, you know, he's going, it says something

when you have a guy who's just a human being

with no powers able to go and be the arch nemesis

of Superman who has all the powers. So, you know,

that says something. Due to his genius level

intellect. He's a guy that tends to try to not

get his hands ready when he doesn't have to Rather,

you know using pawns or something like that or

creations He makes up to do do his dirty work,

but he he you know when not necessary He'll he

will tussle around a little bit, you know, he's

not the most physical intimidating foe but like

you mentioned he does have the Armor and things

like that. He can utilize So I I would be inclined

to get with Luther just because of his genius.

I would probably say he's probably superior because

it's and I Think he would be able to he's more

of a manipulator too So that would that would

be my I would agree that it would be like sleuth

or not only that but He also was the one that

managed to get Brainiac to merge with him at

one point before they they separated and Brainiac

built himself a new body to get out of Lex and

Then ended up kind of merging with Darkseid And

Lex also also took on Darkseid and defeated him

so The fact that this guy's gone against three

basically god -level characters in the DC universe

And for the most part survived everything I would

argue that Lex Luthor should win Yeah, I think

that's I think that's a good a good argument,

you know, I can take on gods It's a good thing

to put on your resume as a reason why you should

either get a job or win a versus battle. So yep

So this next one, I was kind of torn to fill

a spot and so I figured, you know, this would

be interesting because they were basically written

to be the same character but they're not the

same character because they kind of wrote them

to not be. So it's kind of a fight within a fight

so it's almost a double negative in a sense.

I had Beast Wars Megatron against Beast Machines

Megatron. so what what are they I I love Beast

Wars it was like my Introduction into the world

of Transformers and I did watch Beast Machines,

but I always thought they were there. So they're

not the same They're they're technically the

same as far as the storyline like the overall

storyline. However, when they wrote Beast Machines

Nobody really acted like they were even They

looked similar, but they weren't actually similar

and how they were portrayed At all it was like

they were kind of just creating their own thing

and if it connected great if it didn't then But

by the end of the series they were the same yeah

So Basically I would I would be having the Transmetal

Megatron versus the the the weird version we

got it in Beast Machines Was trying to find another

villain honestly to put in here But there was

real it was really kind of pressed to put in

somebody of note that Would fit well with him.

Yeah so Knowing what you know, do you think Beast

Machines? Beast Machines came close to actually

he physically took out everyone on Cybertron

except for Primal and his few Maximals that managed

to survive the Beast Wars and travel back to

a certain point in Cybertron's history to where

Megatron already was in control of everything.

So that essence I would say that Megatron kind

of already won in Beast Machines, although at

the end it was just a battle between him and

Optimus Primal. and then they had this weird

oracle planet thing that basically took them

both out. So it was kind of stupid. Whereas Beast

Wars, again Megatron, being the devil that he

is, managed to merge his spark temporarily, his

life force with the original Megatron, becoming

a dragon. taking command of the original Megatron

ship and taking out several Maximals in the process

so and it took the the trader that he created

of a previous Maximal a clone version that ended

up taking him out ultimately so again it was

kind of a He made his own mistake in the one

and the other one it was kind of not really in

his in his hands for for losing so I Don't know.

I think I think that it it would be difficult

to discern but I Think Beast Machines Megatron

in a sense just because the fact that he took

out an entire planet. Yeah on his own When he

fell off their ship as a captive and it took

over the planet it the fact that he did that

on his own completely. What was that? That, I

mean, that's a, again, that's a good reason.

I mean, I'm inclined to go with Beast Roars Megatron

just because, you know, he's a dinosaur and like,

you know, as we've seen, a big fan of dinosaurs

already, but yeah. I think Beast Machines' Megatron

seems to definitely have more power. Yeah. I

mean, I'm more inclined to go with Beast Wars,

but that's just because I like the various nuances

of Megatron going, oh, yes, throughout the series.

Yeah. And he doesn't do that as much during Beast

Machines. It's more of a hollowed out... year's

like just kind of a drawn -out kind of echo to

everything it's not I don't know it feels kind

of emotionless for a lot of the series so and

primal seems like he's a crazy religious fanatic

so that's that's why I argue that the series

are almost different make sense but yeah so moving

on we have another mainframe entertainment show

reboot we have megabyte who is the main antagonist

of the show, a virus from mainframe who wanted

to conquer the supercomputer, voiced by the late

actor Tony J. And so yeah, he's a computer virus

with an army and a lot of manipulation powers

and... superhuman attributes because he also

can play in the games and Even though his henchmen

are kind of tools in hack and slash he is very

intelligent And then he eventually was changed

into a Trojan horse virus When they they kind

of brought in the the early internet into the

later series And was able to copy a complete

likeness of anything he touched so yeah, he he

was pretty hardcore towards the end of that And

then you get into his opponent, Cell from Dragon

Ball Z, who gets more powerful by the more Z

fighters that he absorbs. And he can regenerate

from a single Cell. So, yeah, good luck taking

him out. Yeah, I know I watch both of these cartoons

a lot. Love megabyte as a character, but you

know and you know Kudos to him because he did

kind of rule mainframe for quite some time but

Cell is just you know, I like a entirely different

level Going up against you know when you have

to go fight Goku and things of things of that

nature yeah, he's a you know, he's a tough man

to crack and And you have to wait all the way

to the fact that he gets his final form. So I

don't think you'd even need to be in his final

form to take out Megabyte. So I'll go with Cell.

Yeah, I'll go with Cell as well because he's

not only got the powers of just about everybody

in the Z fighter group, but he also has the multiple

transformation and can just simply absorb Megabyte

and take what he needs out of him. Yeah, everything

about a megabyte legitimately is in you know

microscopic, but Yeah, but he could in fact sell

and turn him into a Trojan horse virus and take

control of the personality. So there's he's got

he's got that option. So But he's also you know,

like 20 years out of date with being a megabyte

instead of a terabyte so He needs a major upgrade

major upgrade We need we need the mainframe computer

upgraded So the final fight we have is dr. Praetorius

from the mask against dr. Robotnik from the Sonic

the hedgehog The the darker version of Sonic

the hedgehog that was on Saturday mornings And

by mask you don't mean the the cop show you mean

the actual yeah the mask Jim Carrey Jim Carrey

basically the this this animated version of it

where Rob Paulson plays the mask Stanley up kiss

Yeah He has similar similar top powers to the

mask That's a robot. He does have his crazy robots

that he can But I just I he's kind of a bumbling

idiot in a way So if you get by those he I think

he's got he's not got much else to offer but

did I mention that that a Praetorius is voiced

by somebody very significant as well in Tim Curry

No, he didn't so there's There's that which is

all another huge bonus. Yeah, Tim Curry Yeah,

it comes back yet again in this this tournament

So I think this is like the third or fourth time

just like Richard Newman's like three or four

times. Yeah So I think it's hard. It's hard to

you know hard to say now that curry I I'm I know

much more about robotic robotic as I love Sonic

the Hedgehog but Don't think he he's got really

much to offer here. No, I kind of agree Praetorius

is You know, basically a scientist high intellect

expertise and robotics and chemistry creating

cybernetic bodies and Including his own body

is cybernetic So, yeah You get that and then

you have Robotnik who just kind of sits in a

chair and plots and He can fight and he can you

know fly with with some of his gear, but yeah

he's not He can do a lot of what Praetorius can

do with a lot less of the Capability of taking

on a Crazy hero that's got speed Yeah, yeah,

so I Mean he can't he can't legitimately beat

a rodent. So it's not a Not a good call for him.

Yeah, and and praetorius has to fight someone

who has the powers of a god Yeah, yeah, look

he was created by Loki if I'm remembering my

mythology of the mask correctly Interesting so

that that was the final matchup of today. Yep.

That was the final matchup It's crazy Yeah But

the good thing is if you disagree with us, you

can you can you have just as much say as we do

So where can people vote on these matchups? Well,

we'll be able to vote right on the episode posts

right underneath the description will be all

of the lineup for this poll as well as the the

tournament so far and Nice little graphical image

that you can blow up and and kind of examine

to see where your favorite characters fell and

Yeah, so then we'll we'll come back with the

round two battles and take on both sides collectively

Nice nice. Just looking at some of the potential

matchups around you based upon last week's winners

That should be some fun fun matchups. You know,

we're already in Mandarin and Dark Phoenix and

High evolutionary Mega duck and cats So that's

that should be a lot of fun. I'm just seeing

just to see now that Who you know how all those

the winners do once we get in the round two?

Oh, yeah, it'll be definitely a lot of fun so

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