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Batman Volume 1: The Court of Owls Review

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike and Steve Megatron dive into Scott Snyder's acclaimed New 52 Batman run, exploring the introduction of the Court of Owls—a secret society that's been influencing Gotham for centuries. The hosts discuss the mysterious Talon assassins, the revelation that Dick Grayson was destined to be one, and how this story reshapes Batman's mythology. They also dig into the art by Greg Capullo, the clever use of historical Gotham flashbacks, and the way Snyder builds tension across the first arc before the story continues into Volume 2.

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Hello and welcome to The Pole Bag. This is episode

76. I am your host TFJU and Mike and we are three

episodes away from concluding Batman's 75th anniversary

spotlight here inside The Pole Bag. I am joined

once again by Steve Megatron. Hello. Hello. How

are you? Doing well. That's good. That's good.

All right, we are going to jump right into Batman

volume 1 the court of owls for the new 52 It

took me a while to get around to the story not

that I didn't want to read it But as I've said

many times in the first year of this podcast

you and your review of Batman 13 Kind of is what

really got me spending all this money on these

things called comics over the last two years

now. Holy crap, in October of this year it'll

be two years since I've been buying comics all

this time. I started on the Death of the Family

arc, and we'll get to that in episode 78, but

I started on Death of the Family, went into Zero

Year, and I never really had the chance at the

time to go back and get the Court of Owls trades,

and I wanted to get them as the trades and not

the single issues. The Volume 1 trade I actually

got with, I actually spent $25. Wow. No, no,

listen. It was a it was a gift set It was a you

know they put out those gift sets and it came

with a court of owls mask I actually have a picture

of myself on Facebook somewhere With me wearing

the court of owls mask that came with it because

the court of owls mask was something that I think

they used at San Diego Comic -Con the year before

or something or other But I mean honestly the

the the the actual msrp on this is sixteen ninety

nine u .s .a. with a discount that probably not

get down to eleven and i got a twenty five percent

discount off the thing anyways so i didn't spend

more than i usually would i'm just saying that's

what the price of the set was when i when i first

saw it was twenty five dollars and you know twenty

five percent twenty five bucks ain't that bad

no uh... all right well court of owls uh... that

you read this in you you you've read all the

batman new fifty two stuff up to this point in

order right uh... yes and no i originally started

collecting with uh... the first issues of everything

when the new fifty two launched and then i forgot

about it uh... and then i ended up going back

to it later uh... but i actually i believe i

got this trade from dc comics Very cool. Very

cool. So Very cool. Very cool. Um, yeah, like

I said for me, I just now came back to it and

I Gotta say so far out of the new 52 court fouls

has been Snyder's best as far as the writing

goes There wasn't anything in this story that

I did not like and I there wasn't anything in

the writing that was heinous to me, there wasn't

anything in the writing that was jarring to me,

there wasn't anything in the writing that made

me go, what the, is he doing at all, whatsoever?

I absolutely loved it. With the trade, we have

some awesome Batman hang gliding art, we have

some... awesome batman versus the court of vows

art uh... knowing no it's not the bat pod but

every time i see that that cycle reminds me of

the best part uh... i don't know why uh... what

do you think of the trade how they do the regular

cover and then on the reverse of the cover they

have the pencil version uh... i don't i don't

really know i mean i i don't I don't care either

way. I do like the cover. It doesn't make that

big of a difference to me. I like it but I don't

like the gruffness that's to it. I like the more

clean colored version of Batman. So we open up

and Batman's doing a monologue about Gotham is.

There's a saying in Gotham where people every

so often will say Gotham is and they use two

or three words to describe what the city is.

And we go through this and he says, after all

this monologuing, he says there's no place like

home. absolutely love this first this first issue

simply for the ruse of Batman and the Joker working

together against a common foe oh I thought that

was hilarious and I was like okay this is the

newly rebooted Joker okay and it's so good good

well i was gonna say and then as lines were going

you know throughout it i'm like he sounds convincing

enough but you know something's a little off

with him oh my god it is it is so awesome because

he says um the monologue says Something particularly

depraved or twisted there you are and here I

was beginning to think we were gonna die without

even saying goodbye You ready to do this? Oh

always so serious fine, then let's cut to the

punchline I absolutely love it. I love Snyder

writing the Joker I think he does really well

writing the character in this iteration of the

Joker with you know face on face off And then

I love how Gordon Batman and Gordon just play

it off. He's like One more thing in the CC footage

it almost looks like you're fighting alongside

the Joker. Tell me that's a Tell me that'd be

ridiculous. That'd be ridiculous Jim. That's

what I figured a simple trick of the light So

we get to the page where we have the Batcave.

I don't know about this Batcave. It looks...

They've... Capelo's designs are amazing. The

colors are great. But just the way that it's

laid out on the page, it looks a little strange

to me. What do you think of the Batcave here?

Actually, I really love this. I love this Batcave.

I love the fact that it's laid out. They give

a more full approach to how everything is. Some

of the nicer part size, the Batcave actually

includes a lot of what's in the Arkham game.

The Arkham Origins Batcave, because you actually

get to go to the real Batcave. And it's also,

I mean, granted, this came out way before that,

but it still came out during the Arkhamverse.

But anyways. I love how you have his regular

control center, which leads to the carport, which

leads to the kind of almost Batman 66 -esque

centerpiece where they punch in their computations

and everything. And you have his bat copter,

two different bat planes. You have the bat pod

in there for the water. Various iterations of

the Batmobile sitting there. You have the bat

cycle you have The pre new 52 Batman and Robin

Batmobile you have his 89 Batmobile It's it's

just interesting seeing all these different Batman

vehicles sitting there and in the way that He

actually has more tubes for the bat costumes

You know, there's actually I think I've counted

like nine Wow in one of those shots with the

dinosaur There's nine of them displayed there

oh One of them is barely visible, but it doesn't

show all of the costumes and in one of the other

squares on the top it shows One of the back costumes

one of the back girl costumes one of the Robbins

So I mean it goes through a couple different

iterations of the suits and then it shows that

even on higher a higher level There are more

back costumes. So he's got other ones stockpiled

Yeah, and the next page next page really sells

it for me Dick Grayson as the Joker best acting

ever that first panel. Will you see his face

in the background? Oh My god, that image is so

So just horrifying And it's an EMP mask that's

interesting technology Yeah, I like how it's

grafted to his head yeah, it's kind of like mocap

a little bit And I love that line where at the

end of that panel at the end of that page where

Bruce says Thought you could you know everything

you've been shouldering lately I thought you

could use an extra day off an extra day off in

Arkham Bruce only you only you think that was

a vacation I think it's funny that dick says

score one for Alfred school of acting Yeah Yeah

And I love the facial because the the whole put

the whole point of this is while Bruce is in

the cave He has this this eyepiece this contact

lens and earpiece that does facial recognition

without having him to wear spy glasses or something.

And this is where we first meet, at least where

I first met, well, not really, not in chronological

order, but this is where we first meet Damian

Wayne. Oh boy, finally. It's a who's who of Gotham

in here. He said and Drake says tell me he's

not using facial rec for the party the party

He's using it to remember who you are Drake and

Grayson says and zing I I love the dynamic between

all the previous Robbins Just because you can

tell that Tim Drake clearly hates or dislikes

Damien with a passion Yeah, Tim Drake. I think

was the best Robin to Bruce Dick, I like him

better as Nightwing. Granted, he was a good Robin,

but he was always a Nightwing. Whereas Tim Drink

was always Robin. Even as Red Robin, he's still

Robin. You know, I said this on Twitter the other

day, or actually a couple months ago, that I

wish that... I know they've canceled the Teen

Titan series with Drake in it. I wish that there

would be a Red Robin series or something with

him. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing him come

back into the fold with Bruce. I agree. I completely

agree. I mean, he's filling the void of Nightwing,

anyway. Yeah. See, the problem with... The current

state of Batman is that because of this 75th

year, they've basically done away with all the

Robins. I don't mind they killed Damian. I'm

actually happy that they killed Damian, but they've

done away with Tim Drake. They've done away with

Dick Grayson. I don't know where or what Jason's

up to because I haven't been reading Red Hood

and the Outlaws, but it just seems like because

it's Batman 75th, they're trying to basically

do what the Joker is going to do up. you know

upcoming in death of the family where he wants

to get rid of batman's faces and i don't particularly

like that i know what it's comic character that's

a little always come back and you know people

everybody except uncle ben will always come back

to life you know it's just and versus parents

now unless we're talking about a different universe

there really a different universe uh... So they

go to this party and Bruce is making this speech

about Gotham's past present and look to the future

and he shows off how he's going to Improve the

the Gotham skyline and rebuild everything. It's

basically reinvention rebuilding the city back

to what it was Well, and funny thing is is it's

not even to what it was to what it's going to

become the future right and the funny thing is

is some of the shapes of those buildings and

The height of them is Batman Beyond desk. Yep,

because Gotham because throughout the Batman

and Detective comics they're constantly bleeding

closer to that that future Without actually coming

right out and saying it I'm so happy Vicky is

not some other form of herself. I'm very happy

that she's part of the Gotham Gazette. So we

go to Lincoln March, who is gonna be the new

mayor of Gotham. And Bruce is... Is not really

paying attention to what he's saying because

he's paying attention to An incoming call and

He basically excuses himself from from March

and says he needs to The monologue says, I need

to get some air. What do you think of the storytelling

device of them doing word balloons as part of

a conversation and then going into monologue

to finish the conversation? Um, I don't know.

I mean, it doesn't really affect me any. No,

it doesn't. I just, I thought it was, especially

today and today's standards of comics, I thought

it was really interesting how they do that. and

capitals are Along with the colors here where

Batman's coming over the city and all the bats

are around him I absolutely love it. I I do too

that is such a it's almost got the new adventures

vibe to it With the dark red red sky and then

you know the darkness and gruffness to it. I

actually like that I wish that that was the cover

but But no, I mean that's that's definitely really

cool And then we get Harvey Bullock and it's

Harvey is so Snyder really must have paid attention

to animated series and the in the direction that

they took with the relationship between Harvey

and Batman because And he actually references

this even though it's not in the notations, but

he says hello Harvey back to stealth mode I see

this references the fact that before new 52 It

wasn't Bruce Wayne as Rob Ed as Bruce Wayne is

Robin. Oh my god Bruce Wayne is Batman. It was

Dick Grayson Because apparently dick was a little

bit less stealthier. I guess I don't know Yeah,

he he you could definitely hear His presence

more so But that's his style I mean Dick Grayson

is the Peter Parker of the DC Universe only he

does it way better than Peter agreed So Batman

is sniffing around for clues and he figures out

that That this this chemical that was left behind

was used to leave a message or a last warning

before this guy got basically ritually tortured

and stabbed to death and this this fire on the

wall reminds me of when Ben Yurick tossed the

match on the subway floor in the daredevil movie,

and you see the daredevil symbol come up in fire

That's what this reminds me of and Bruce Wayne

will die tomorrow right and my name's Elvis oh

man I gotta say reading this story I absolutely

love it I love well this is one of the reasons

why the pull bag has gone towards to trade coverage

versus single issue because love how in trades

that they end the story specifically the Batman

the Nightwing and the Batgirl for DC in the trades

it's so They end on a cliffhanger like the single

issues do But instead of having something that

says next on or whatever else you have the next

cover and apparently the DNA that That Bruce

was Having Alfred check comes back as a match

to dick Grayson That's one hell of a way to end

the first issue Yeah It's one hell of a way to

end the first issue Second issue cover. What

do you think of a second issue cover? second

issue cover well I Like this one a lot more in

the first issue No, I mean it's it's it's more

colorful. I like the red tones in it the explosive

You know the helicopter Not that I don't like

the black and white but I like the the color

version much better Oh, no, I like the color

version. I was just asking earlier what you thought

of their inclusion of the black and white cover

like On the on the reverse of the color issue

of the color cover this cover. I almost wanted

to say hey that bat cycle drove up the wall And

I can just hear Steve groaning in the background

even though he's not saying anything yeah Not

going to you Batman forever no Yep, no Batman

never Batman forever So we open this chapter

with Bruce explaining in monologue what old Wayne

tower it almost reminds me of the tower from

it's The one that they used in Arkham City. Oh

Really? It's it's almost the same as the tower.

It's not named the same thing I can't remember

the real name of it in the the games, but They

use that in Arkham City and called it something

else. Interesting. Interesting. But yeah, this

opens up with him doing a monologue on the story

of Old Lane Tower, how there were five gargoyles

at the bottom, seven at the top. And he's talking

about how the glass was made to be unbreakable,

except if you do the smart thing and break it

on the edges versus the center. And we see an

image of him being thrown out the window. Yep.

Bruce Wayne is falling. To his demise. It's all

I can think of. His world's finest. Go check,

you idiot. Some flying fool could have caught

him. I know we're not in Metropolis, but it's

just... Damn you tangents Why was that a tangent

it's just it reminds me of that yeah, so Bruce

is falling And then it jumps to 24 hours earlier

Yep 24 hours earlier, and that's where we get

that that full -on bat cycle Image that was earlier

in the in the trade at the very beginning Very

very awesome love that image And we see that

Alfred and Bruce are arguing over the communicator,

and he's like he's like relax this will only

take a moment Bruce I think it's funny that Bruce

Creates a hologram. Oh Yeah, and makes himself

mysteriously appear in the morgue To scan oh

Yeah, but that is so cool. I think he and unfortunately,

it's something that he's not used since Yeah,

I really I think that in some cases because he

can't be everywhere I think that this is, you

know, this is more so what I should see comes

from him at points. Yeah, oh yeah, most definitely.

Especially in this day and age with the technology.

I mean, I would love to, you know, see that actually

come out of it at some point. Even if it's, you

know, just briefly. I don't expect to see it

all the time, just briefly. So he gets to the

morgue and they talk about this this body that's

in the morgue and The fact that it's That's the

whole point of this one that this these first

seven issues is Bruce doesn't believe in the

court of alice. It's an old wives tale to him

and As these issues will go on he does you know

obviously start to believe And he he goes back

to the Batcave And dick is like whoa you install

the photo photogrammetric scanner in the city

morgue it simplifies things And this is part

of the technology of Batman that like you said

we wish that would we would actually see nowadays,

because that would be really interesting. At

least for Batman. I mean, come on. And it is

so interesting that Dick has this line here.

Good thing we keep all of our Bat -family DNA

protected, which then will come back to haunt

him in later issues. Because Bruce does secretly

use his DNA Yeah So we then go to back to old

Wayne Tower And then it has Bruce meeting up

with that mayor candidate, yep And they tell,

you know, Lincoln March tells him a story. And

the whole thing with the Court of Owls and the

people that work for the Court of Owls is there's

always truth in the lie or a lie in the truth.

And that's, you know, he tells him this story.

And it's a really interesting story, but it's

more interesting of what will happen later with

that story. and then we see the first Talon who

apparently will turn out to be William Cobb and

Batman basically goes through and fights him

it's a pretty interesting fight scene I really

do like the the fact that it's Bruce fighting

him not Batman I should say And the the new line

that the tagline for the court of vows is Bruce

Wayne the court of vows has sentenced you to

die And he says how I love killing Wayne's so

we can tell that the talons Especially this talon

has been killing Wayne's for the longest time

No, I wasn't sure where Snyder was gonna go with

that whether he was gonna say a Talon was the

one that killed Thomas and Martha Even though

we all know it's Joe chill But I I was kind of

hesitant when it came to that part of the story

I was like, oh, please tell me they're not rewriting

the origin of who killed his parents. I I find

it funny that this Talon says I enjoy killing

Wayne's and then He's mentioning all these different

towers or these different gargoyles that were

on the the old Wayne Tower and he says Something

your tour guide wouldn't mention either because

there's one guardian people don't tell you about

when you went visit They don't tell you because

it was added later in 1930 and it sits in the

middle of the building It can't be seen from

the elevators or the deck the 13th guardian installed

by Alan's son Henry his great -grandfather The

Guardian for visitors to Gotham arriving by air

and you just see Bruce with all these Daggers

at him and he's standing there like Batman would

So then we get to We get to the penultimate page

here for this chap for this issue And it's basically...

Bruce is basically saying, which is why I can't

say that there is no Court of Owls, not in my

city, not in my Gotham. And that's some pretty

interesting imagery that we're left with. And

the cover for the next issue is Batman vs. the

Talon. Black, white, and red all over. Yep. Good

old newspaper joke That's what she said And there's

one thing I love about Snyder sometimes at least

in this story and also with him pinning the gates

of Gotham story with Dick Grayson as Batman Is

how they're able to distinguish the past from

the present and now because this story opens

up with Gotham City winter 1922 and it's basically

Alan Wayne the guy who built half the city running

from the court of owls so we basically actually

see his great -grandfather die well not really

die but you know what I mean yeah what do you

think of the past versus the present here Don't

know. I mean, I'm not one for Seeing all that

I just it I Understand why it's there. I just

I don't care. I want to see Batman kick ass not

a way to die See I can agree to that to a certain

extent I love what they've done creating Batman's

mythos in the new 52 as far as this first to

as far as this first story line the court of

court and city of owls because i'd like seeing

that that was and will get to gates of gotham

eventually in the pullback not anytime soon maybe

sometime next january uh... in gates of gotham

it's it's a story of past and present and i love

seeing how the past waynes went about building

gotham city Compared to the to the present Bruce

Wayne and Dick Grayson and all that. I absolutely

love it I thought that was great. So we do get

back to the present here and Batman is He's looking

for information pretty much on the court of outs

And we have him basically going after a whole

bunch of different people I love the art here.

I think it's so well done. Capolo and I believe

Jonathan Glapion is the anchor on this. So well

done. The inks, the colors, everything about

it. It's light, it's dark, it's so great. What

else did you like about this one? Well the fact

that you actually get to see Batman fighting

I like the fact that when he's sitting in the

Batcave you can see the cowl kind of staring

back at him while he's watching the review footage

of him fighting the Talon Yeah, I think it's

funny and then You see Alfred with the The Talon

from the Court of Owls folk song And then they

show the logo of them and says, just common trivia,

they're carnivorous masters of camouflage. They're

natural predators of bats. And yeah, so it's

funny that they're hunting the Batman. Yeah.

What's even funnier is what will happen later,

that you can never really get rid of the bats.

So yeah, we've got that and then next we go to

Even bats need sunshine and he goes to visit

March in the hospital Which isn't Interesting

scene as well Again, like I said the lightness

and the darkness of this issue Or of this this

whole trade is the art is so well done the backgrounds

everything is I absolutely love it And Lincoln

says that the the quarter vows are watching him

And he's talking about the superstition of it

all See what else here He he actually goes out

hunting and looking through Wayne buildings and

finding Old owls nests and he actually does find

the court of owls and I I Like the designs on

the court of owls. I think they're really really

interesting Even though it's basically just people

in white masks. It's it's kind of creepy because

let's face it for the most part owls are creepy

yeah i like bruce's discovery though of the uh

um the little hideout yeah and seeing all the

remnants and everything in there uh and then

a full costume yep um and the end of this one

is uh craboom because the whole building explodes

All this time right under our feet sir And we

see the Talon with the owl And then we get the

next issues cover and this might be my favorite

one so far is The the Talon with Batman in its

eyes and a red city. What did you think of this

one? It's kind of interesting Yeah I like the

next stage more where the kaboom's on there.

Kaboom! Most people assume the danger of a tripwire

lies in the blast. Oh boy. Not so. The real threat

is from the tripwire comes later in the aftermath.

and man was this one hell of a big blast I mean

this thing has gone on for almost two pages now

between the last issue and this issue it's pretty

damn good explosion so we get we get back to

the cave again and Dick is there and they're

talking almost all in It's Dick and Alfred. They're

talking in all monologue captions. I like it.

I think it's interesting. I wish, only because

I know a lot of people don't like the Chris O'Donnell

Robin. from Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.

I still do. I almost wish Dick in this would

have called him Al instead of Alfie. So we find

that Bruce is not resting. He is preparing and

he and Dick have some interesting conversations.

Yeah, it's interesting of all things. Yeah, well,

what I love about this is he's talking to Dick

and he's talking to the computer at the same

time. He tells the computer one thing and he

tells dick the other and then somehow The computer

thinks that he's talking that Bruce is talking

to it versus versus dick. It's nice little back

-and -forth What did you think of the exchange

in the cave here I Think it's funny dug up his

grandpa his great -great. Yeah. Yeah pretty much

and I needed his bones For a case I'm working

Yeah, show me what you got old man And he says

that there is no He says that there is no court

of owls That he looked into it as a boy and we

get this story of how he looked into it Love

the I love kind of the sign thing one two zero

one two three mile Gotham City I kind of love

that that that whole outline of of the oh Wow,

it's a whole outline of the city behind the that's

that's something really interesting about the

art in this one is that this page has the entire

map of Gotham under the The actual panels where

the images are I thought that was great. That

was a nice little thing Overall, I mean that

this story is is really really interesting What's

what what's great about it is is how Bruce finally,

you know comes to realize that the court is real

How He now believes in the court. He actually

gets captured by the court of owls this Volume

one of Batman for the new 52 is an amazing amazing

read. It really really is And how they leave

it off is just simply simply awesome What did

you think of the ending for this one the one

not just the the issue we're talking about but

just the the overall ending to the book itself.

For the whole trade? Yeah. I think it's interesting

they're starting to finally realize that there's

a lot more darker sinister things going on around.

Yeah, I mean it's so interesting and in this

In this ending we also have Bruce stuck in a

maze Yeah, Bruce stuck in a maze. We have that

beautiful beautiful shot of the Of him versus

the owl The fountain of the owl When I first

saw that I was I was like wow, I think it's funny

that there's this one page though that They show

the bat skyline Yeah, and you see Bullock and

Gordon standing by the the bat signal and then

you see Damien and Dick By themselves at one

point then you just see Batgirl at one point

Catwoman batwing Alfred You know everybody's

kind of separated yeah Wasn't this thought trade

that has the bat signal going out? I am Damien

says get a new one now. I don't know I Like how

my costume gets battered all the hell after he

gets out of that maze. Oh, yeah You can actually

see his eye Yeah, and he needs to get into the

dark away from the light oh Yeah, that was so

awesome And by the end of it we have you know

Dick finding out that Bruce did take his DNA

and did use it to find out that this This talon

is his great great great grandfather William

Cobb and the fact that dick was actually meant

to be Italian Italian Italian We've already had

enough cross genderization in the DCAU. We don't

need it here in the new 52 with Talia and Raish.

But Dick was supposed to be a Talon. That's what

he was going to be. That was what his destiny

was going to be, because the Talons recruit through

Haley Circus. I personally, in the current state

of DC Comics, passed this volume. I don't know

how I would feel if they brought him back as

a Talon now. I just don't... I think it's funny

that they stabbed Bruce though. Yeah, they do.

They do. Overall, I absolutely love The Court

of Owls, Batman Volume 1. It's an amazing, amazing

story. It not only gives you insight into Batman's

life, but it also gives you insight into the

lifeblood that runs within and under Gotham.

So I absolutely love that. We're going to take

a quick break. We're going to come back with

final ratings after this. All right, we're back

and final ratings for Batman volume one the court

of owls I I'm actually gonna give this five.

I really do think it's five star worthy. I think

it's I think it is a perfect book. There wasn't

any major pieces of art that really like stood

out to be Negative for me whatsoever The way

the trade is set up is simply amazing. The way

that Snyder writes this story, it's epic because

it's not just them, because it does give, in

the beginning of the trade on the credits, it

does say under Batman created by Bob Kane, it

does say the Court of Owls created by Scott Snyder

and Greg Capilouto. So this isn't some old story

that was done in the past. This is something

brand new that they came up with to relaunch

Batman and I absolutely love that I don't know.

What about you for rating and kind of a final

thought? Well, I think it's interesting that

they they did create it and it's actually the

most formidable Villain that they've had so far

in the new 52 Yep meaning that it's spanned 12

issues to You know the first six setting up of

him discovering them and getting battered and

beaten then getting back to Getting back to it

all once you know in the second part, but I mean,

it's it's Definitely, you know It's showing that

they definitely have very far to fall So it in

that sense, I think it actually helps The characters

grow for once, instead of constantly fighting

their regular foes and same story in and out.

So I definitely welcome that into the fold. But

no, I mean, I don't really see any issues with

it. It's pretty solid overall. I'd probably give

it a 4 .5 just because it's It's good, and I

like the the history aspect of it as well. I

just Something about it always calls out to me

that I It no it's not a joker comment either.

It's just I know I know I am Just I enjoy the

Other stuff a little bit more once it gets further

on in the story Oh yeah, no, Volume 2, which

we'll talk about next time, it's the issues 8

through 12 are just simply amazing, especially

where they go with the storyline, with the history,

without having to bring in the stand, you know,

okay, without, I love that it took them 12 issues

before they went to Joker. That's, you know,

we'll talk about... We'll talk about Death of

the Family when we get to it now. I just want

to give people a little heads up for those of

you who are listening to the pullback here in

the Batman Spotlight Month. When we get to episode

78, which is the final episode of the Spotlight

Month, which is Death of the Family, it's not

going to be a review of the comic. Steve and

I already did that in single issue form on Geekcast

Radio. I will put the links to those episodes

in the episode 78 post. but it's gonna be a general

discussion on the storyline overall. But next

time when we talk about City of Owls, it'll be

this same kind of review style that we did tonight.

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