Batman: A Death in the Family Review

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me Welcome to The Pull Bag. This is episode 73.

We are in the massive, massive 75 -year anniversary

birthday celebration of the goddamn Batman hair

inside the pull bag. I am your host, TFJoneMike,

and I sound normal tonight. Yay! Joining me is

Steve Megatron. Hello. Hello, hello, hello. And

tonight we are going to be continuing. We've

already had coverage here in this... Massive

massive Batman 75 year spotlight that we've got

planned here in the pullback. We've already had

coverage from Batman 66 issues five through eight

But where the Batman chapters one through four

the digital versions Batman year one Dark Knight

returns and the killing joke and now we're up

to a death in the family. This was The public's

choice whether Jason Todd should live or die

and they killed him Just like Damien. At least

Todd's death was more emotional. It was meaningful

because Batman actually liked him. Oh wait! That's

why he forever was tormented by the ghost of

Jason Todd, but he still doesn't remember Damien

anymore. No, he's too busy trying to find Damien's

body to revive him. Reminds me of an old three

studios short. Hey you take that jellyfish up

and revive him So yes, we are here to talk about

the groundbreaking classic Batman a death in

the family This is my first time ever reading

this story. I've heard all kinds of stuff about

the story. I've seen Batman under the red hood

which kind of touches on it a little bit So,

but this is my first time reading this and I

did enjoy it. I thought it was really interesting.

I have several problems with it. Not story wise,

but just the way the arts laid out. Just to let

everybody know, I am viewing this in a trade

paperback from the public library. Steve is viewing

it through single issues. Yes. I do like how

the trade is presented. I think it's really,

really interesting. It basically gives you, in

the trade paperback you have chapters one through

six of Death and the Family. And then you have

an afterword by Marv Wolfman. And then you have

a lonely place of dying chapters one through

four, or chapters one through five. And then

you have the alternate ending of Death and the

Family of He's Alive! It's alive alive Yes, Jason

Todd is the monster Batman is Frankenstein also

of note comics at this time that this came out

were a dollar fifty Wow Yeah, I remember those

days And I don't think Steve and I are gonna

go like sometimes JT and I are Sometimes myself

and other people will go straight through a trade

and bit by bit i don't think that's what we're

gonna do here i think we're just have an overall

discussion on it i do like the arts now this

is something really interesting for me because

i've said in previous episodes of the poll bag

that the late eighties early nineties art uh...

specifically to the marvel characters i've absolutely

just did not like it whatsoever and it's not

just because this is batman or the joker that

I like the art. I wish he wasn't blue and yellow.

I wish it was black and gray and yellow, but

that's neither here nor there. Well, that really

didn't start happening until the 90s anyway.

Yeah, that's true. You started having a lot of

the dark grays and the light gray with Dark Knight

Returns, and this is around the same timeline.

As far as where the comics place, but as far

as when it was made, but I Do find it interesting

that every time they show like Bruce or somebody

else and they did this Through the early 90s

to they always have like a blue tinge to the

hair If you look at it, yeah It's the same thing

that Marvel did with Tony Stark to show black

hair. They made it blue tint And I don't like

that at all. I've never liked that that just

it's weird It doesn't bother me only because

I grew up on early DC comics and saw Batman like

that. Yeah It's just Like sure. I don't mind

it on Batman when he has his stupid cowl on but

I'm sorry Jason Todd with blue hair a yellow

cape and a red and green costume the blue just

Does not just does not go So We start off and

Jason Todd aka the new Robin is basically taking

unnecessary risks We get into the fact that he

Goes off and wanders and ends up coming to his

old stomping grounds As this is going on, the

Joker has escaped Arkham again. And just looking

at that Gotham Post newspaper, I so flashed a

BTAS Joker here. I know this Joker, his chin

is a little bit more pronounced than that one

is. But that... The page where he says the Joker

knows when it's time to take a vacation looks

so BTIS. I know this was before BTIS, but I'm

just saying that... It's so corn -ballish though.

Yeah, yeah. So the Joker is basically broke and

he's going to sell this missile. that he Dismantles

and reassembles himself Which is not a good thing

as I said at the same time. We've got Jason going

to his own old homestead he meets a lady there

who saved some of his old things and Something

that really really changes his life. He finds

out that Katherine Todd is not his real mother

So he then goes on a search for who his real

mother is. He narrows it down to three different

people. One is a super secret agent lady. The

other is Lady Shiva. Come on I even I don't know

a lot of these about these old comics But I know

who lady Shiva is and I knew as soon as I saw

the name Shiva whatever her last name is I was

like Yeah, there's no way in hell. That's his

mom What do you think of the Batmobile in this

It's kind of reminiscent of the old school Kind

of It's got that 70s, it's got the 60s look mixed

with some of the 70s style Batman, Batmobile.

And I love how the cowl is indented black on

the hood. Yeah. With the headlights being the

eyes. Yeah. I'm looking at the image of him coming

back to the Batcave. Where he's asking Alfred,

you know, what's the trouble that panel right

there where he's getting out of the Batmobile

It looks like a giant battery to me. It looks

like a Like a C or a D battery from Duracell

Painted the look I swear if you look at that

angle in the way that it is it looks like a weird

old Battery to me. I don't know why I mean, I

don't dislike it What I do dislike though About

this book and about this story Do they really

need to do multicolor? Dialogue for the for the

monologue like in the in the next issue in in

the trade. It's called chapter 2 The North Northwestern

Mediterranean coast of Lebanon before coming

here. I checked in with Ralph Bundy a friend

of mine at the CIA if I got to examine the plane

before it took off. Now, as it's going down the

page, it starts as a green background with black

text, and then it moves to pink with black text.

And I'm like, why do you need to... I don't know.

Maybe I'm just so used to the standard today.

Like when you see a Batman monologue, it's a

grayish black background with white text. Or

the Nightwing monologue of today where it's a

red and blue kind of thing. No, I definitely

like some aspects of the old school kind of look

here. I do. I just don't like the background

color changing constantly. Well, it was a brighter

time too. And you got to figure detail has come

a long way since then. So they can give more

accurate colors and likenesses without having

to use shading effects. That's that's true. I

like see I think the other problem I have is

where that is usually when There's multiple color

monologues It's more than one character And with

this all being Batman, I wish it was just one

background color with the black text I'm not

saying it has to be black or blue it doesn't

matter what color it didn't matter what color

it was as long as it was just one color that's

that's my only real problem with it and it's

not something that is going to force me to lower

my my score on the on the story at all it's just

something that kind of bothered me as I read

along through it so so in chapter two Robin goes

down to the Batcave and figures out that the

first of his three targets is in Beirut. Lady

Shiva is also in Beirut. I love how they actually

give us translations from certain languages and

it's basically in parentheses. In the translation,

Bruce says, take me to the worst section of the

city, a place where criminals gather and the

cabbie's like, huh? I thought that was really

cool. What are your thoughts so far on the story?

I get it. But I am kind of unimpressed so far,

but I think it's also because I have nostalgia

for, like, the Nightfall, so I remember how that

was written. And for the most part, I mean, yeah,

there's been a little bit of action, but it's

got almost that... It definitely has the 80s

comic feel to it. It's almost got some of the

60s cheese to it. Yeah. Like Batman's saying...

Which I'm fine with, but I think, I mean, this

is just... basically this issue is just a setup

for what's to come now see for me like you know

use you mentioned the sixties class you know

coming through to it and you're right it does

but for me it's like anytime batman calls him

lad anytime batman uses sixties lingo it just

takes me out of the story it really does And

you're right, this part of the story is all set

up for what will happen later. I will say I do

enjoy the rocket -powered Batgliders. Those are

cool. Yeah, I've seen that before in G .I. Joe,

though. Well, yeah. So... the joker is here to

make his deal and his deal goes sour his money

is destroyed the spy gets caught batman and robin

are are battling and and uh... the uh... the

missile blows up uh... is really really interesting

and it's interesting how uh I like how they turn

the tables on the spy about about asking they

ask her something and she says it's classified

information and then she asks them something

and they say it's classified information I thought

that was kind of a nice little twist As the story

went through when I was reading it, I did find

myself really enjoying it. So we get to the second

target, which is Lady Shiva, and they have a

huge battle. The art, I like, but I'm not...

It doesn't blow me away. It really doesn't. I

don't know what it is. I don't know, maybe it's

because it's the old style. Not what I'm used

to but I'm not basing when I read this and looked

at it for the art I wasn't basing it on what

I've read today. I was just okay. This is You

know a Batman story I'm reading the Batman story

the art is what it is Go ahead. Well, I was gonna

say the thing about this is is this is the part

of the beginning of Batman's running into becoming

the the Dark Knight Right This this story is

actually like the second in the line because

in the in the comic edition of it Kind of a reissue

of sorts. It's got like a Batman 101 type thing

kind of displaying More or less the the saga

of how things kind of turn out through some of

the aspects of it But the other problem I have

with at least as far as the first issue goes

when the warhead is destroyed yeah they say the

Joker's a nuclear engineer and then Batman's

like oh we're lucky the warhead didn't detonate

and then the Joker's crying about his money being

burnt to a crisp which I never even in the animated

series I never really took him for somebody that

had to have money He's more of that that psychotic,

you know, like I'm gonna just do it for the shits

and giggles of it Yeah, he's never He's never

been shown to actually Need what he needs money,

but he's never actually been shown to really

want it The only times that I've seen that he

really wants it is because he needs it or because

he's broke But it's not his sole focus. Like

you said he'll still pull it pull a stunt whether

he's getting paid or not you know if there's

a sick you know a good sick laugh in it he'll

do it end of story so yeah so we find out that

lady Shiva is not his father not his mother so

that's like I said before a good thing I don't

like the looks on there. Like, after they're...

This is into chapter four. I assume it's issue

four for you. I don't know. It's them driving

in the... the Jeep thing. They're in the market

and he's, uh, Batman saying, when I return to

Gotham, I'll send out another check to help the

effort and try to forget what I've seen here.

I'm no different from anyone else. The looks

on their faces are just... Jason Todd looks so

Dick Grayson -like in that look. Like, he looks

like Burt Ward frowning from the 60s show. It

just... I don't know. The art is not grabbing

me. The story grabbed me, but it didn't, like,

pull in my hard strings at all. For the simple

fact that... You know we find out that his real

mother Sheila is Working for the Joker because

she also embezzled stuff from this this this

refugee relief thing The Joker shows up and Basically

we have an all -out battle I think it's funny

they show the Joker with his long face and yeah

without the makeup on yeah I prefer when it's

you know etched into his face but yeah it's a

little strange seeing him this way but at the

same time I keep envisioning that guy that was

in the shadows and mask of the phantasm like

this is what he would not necessarily look like

in the btas style but Yeah, you're right it is

a little weird not to see him with his makeup

on So Batman and Todd Get back together see here

Batman flies off in the batcopter So Batman flies

off and and his mother basically sets him up

I know that's horrible yeah very horrible his

mother sets him up because she was afraid that

if people found out that what she and the Joker

were doing with you know the medical supplies

that they would look into and see the fact that

she was also embezzling the money And we get

what I've heard about for so long about this

massive, massive beating of the Joker to Jason

Todd. And it's not as epic as I thought it was

going to be. It was more epic in Under the Red

Hood for me than it was here. I see it in both,

but the mother thing kind of adds an extra It's

all the injury to his persona, but it also Eliminating

her for under the red hood And just having the

Joker do it just for shits and giggles. I'd like

I'd like it more that way because he's just that

kind of sadistic bastard. Yeah, but It's a different

time now. Whereas, you know now they don't need

that extra scapegoat. Whereas before yeah, he

was crazy but To add the insult to injury of

his mother turning him into the Joker. That's

just pure evil Yeah, that's pure evil on her

part regardless But you know I've heard about

this scene for years and people say it was so

epic and everything You know what would be really

epic it would be as if there was a Comic version

of this done in there under the red hood style

like a novel it like you know sometimes movie

novelizations incorporate stuff that isn't actually

in the film if They did a comic adaptation of

under the red hood You know what I mean? If for

this story with his mother really doing that

and have it in the dark style. I might like it

more Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike this

story. It's a really Screwed up and interesting

story to see what you know Jason Todd's origins

here But You know so Batman basically is racing

back and Joker has tied Robin and his mother

to a bomb I do like the panelling of the bomb

timer as it counts down to see what they're doing

they do get free they do get to the door but

Jason shields his mother and she will eventually

die but he dies instantaneously and that final

That final page where Batman is just saying Jason.

Oh my god. Oh my god That is epic. I will say

in this art style. That is is an epic piece of

piece of art Yeah, and it's and the funny thing

is is all this is five minutes in death of the

family Or death. Yeah under the red hood. I mean,

yeah. Yeah, exactly and then we have and then

we have at least in the in the trade we have

the original advertisement phone numbers are

no longer valid Robin will die because the Joker

wants revenge but you can prevent it with a telephone

call oh boy this really This is really funny.

This is really really sad if you think about

it the number to Have the Joker fail and Robin

live one nine hundred seven two zero two six

six zero The number for the Joe's Joker to succeed

and kill Robin one nine hundred seven two zero

two six six six I Don't know why they just didn't

put four sixes in there who knows and it's interesting

to me that back then you will be charged 50 cents

for each call which will be connected to an acknowledgement

message 900 numbers oh boy so we have chapter

5 of death in the family the cover for this is

at least here in the trade it's Basically Jason

in the Robin suit with rubble all around his

face. Oh, man It's just really really epic Did

you say they were a dollar fifty yeah on this

cover it says number four to eight us 75 cents

Canada a dollar Huh, yeah this particular issue

is yeah so we've got Batman basically asking

himself how could he be so stupid and this this

chapter the next chapter basically him you know

dealing with the aftermath kind of reflecting

on his time with Jason He's really just going

all out and just he doesn't care anymore He finds

Sheila Jason's mother and she you know has her

final words with Batman and You know he goes

up to Jason's body and he finds it you know He's

like, I'm not even gonna check for a pulse, but

I do so anyway. You know, nothing. He's lost

him. He's already getting cold to the touch,

gone. Now that is heart -wrenching, I will admit.

That is very heart -wrenching, especially the

next kind of full -page spread here with him

carrying him. Which is kind of a they reversed

that for the actual cover of the trade if you

look at that page And you see him carrying Robin

on the cover of the trade It's basically that

image except it's for it's it's him holding Robin

with his head around Batman's left shoulder But

it's nuts, I mean it's really nuts mm -hmm So

back to the Joker there he's gonna make his deal

with these medical supplies and They have a better

deal for him they want to make him a Delegate

of the Iran affair They really have to do this

seriously do they not know what this guy is capable

of We then get Batman as a detective as he sees

the the note and blood on the wall be see you

at 42nd and first J He figures out it's not Gotham.

It's not metropolis. It's New York City Because

that's where the UN building is and We get an

appearance from Superman. What do you think of

this? I didn't expect that. Yeah, me either.

He's, uh... He... Again, I get it was the style

of the time, but having these two characters

in the same panels now... as the bright. Okay,

granted, Batman's not that bright, but the blue

is kind of bright. It's not, you know, like what

we would have later with the black, but it just

seems like these are two bright characters here.

And I do love how... how he basically... uh...

he wants the superman knows who this new delegate

is and he's telling batman that uh... the the

president and everybody else in the government

says that you know you cannot touch this guy

you cannot do it tell me who who and he slugs

slugs superman like the broken knuckle slug and

even says I think I broke a couple of knuckles.

No, but they're badly bruised. What I love about

Batman and Superman's relationship is that Batman

can get away with punching Superman and only

come away with bruises. And that's only because,

you know, Superman rolled with the punches. I

know, it's just, it's awesome seeing Batman get

to deck Superman. Even though it doesn't hurt

him, it's just... It's the only way you can get

his point across. Yeah. And then the issue ends

with we find out who the new delegate is and

it is the Joker. He looks so off in that suit.

It's so 60s cheese on that. Just oh my god, and

then like it would have been better if he showed

up in the top hat and tails Honestly the cover

to the last issue Robin is dead murdered by the

Joker and Batman can do nothing about it or can

he now this this cover here Showing Joker with

the top hat and the monocle this Joker face the

way that the chin is is up. This reminds me of

Jack of Nicholson in 89 Very very cool. So we

Get to the the final chapter and We see that

the government and Superman are gonna stop him

at any cost From doing anything to the Joker

and then he gets this bright idea Well, if Batman

can't do anything then Bruce Wayne surely can

because hey, nobody knows my secret identity

It's funny how Batman and Superman argue even

as early as this but and the government of course

sends Superman that was like the the thing in

the 80s even in the Dark Knight Returns they

have Superman working for the president and he

Batman calls him Boy Scout yeah in both and basically

he's the Pentagon's bitch and Bruce is like screw

you screw you yeah so Joker's master plan here

is basically to Get into this UN summit and that's

how he's gonna get his mass murder rocks off

if he's gonna kill the entire UN The UN generally

at General Assembly That's a lot of people to

kill Yeah, a lot of people to kill Now did you

think The whole time in this scene that they

were talking in Joker's little office here, did

you think that Batman was recording it? Because

that's what I thought. I didn't think that. I

think he was just going to beat his ass. See,

I don't think he was because he sits there and

goes through the trouble of listening to the

Joker basically confess to his crimes. And then

he walks away and doesn't do anything. And he

leaves that's why I'm asking do you think that

Batman was recording this somehow? He doesn't

know it obviously he wasn't because that that

never comes out that he was but it just I don't

know it made me think that he was recording it

and then Gone, I hate it when he does that I

mean it would make sense. Yeah That'd be the

only way he could really touch him by turning

in evidence That's that's my point is that they

said unless we have evidence You know What do

you think of the the multi panel of Bruce Joker

Bruce Joker I may never know I'm feeling a terrible

sense of finality It's it's on the it's on the

next page Where the two of them? It's interesting

don't say that it's interesting to me that Bruce

has a Purple ish bluish tie with a black Black

jacket on it's like hey you want to know if I'm

Batman there you go look at the colors So Overall,

I really like the story because in the end, you

know Batman stops the Joker from blowing everything

up We do see that Everything with the Joker and

Batman is always unresolved. It's like this this

You know decade long battle or multi -year long

battle that never has a true winner on either

side. It's very interesting to me. I think it's

funny that Superman takes the gas and then he

flies away to get rid of it. Yeah, that was awesome.

But it's funny because he's talking, so it can't

possibly be in his lungs, so he's probably going

to, you know, let it out the other end, but take

it over to Iran and let them have it. Oh my god.

The super kryptonite fart. And then he basically

tells Batman, he's all yours, you know. Now see

again. This is what I'm saying like Okay, sure

Superman because he was disguised as mild men

and reporter Clark Kent saw that the Joker was

gonna blow off the building, but If Batman what

and maybe I'm just stuck on this ladies and gentlemen

I don't know if Batman wasn't recording this

and gave it and didn't give it to Superman. How

would Clark even? be the Don't know I maybe I'm

just trying to find fault where that where there

isn't any Like I said, it's not my favorite art

style, but it's not so jarring as some of the

Marvel stuff And I think some of the Marvel stuff

that I've read that that's kind of old like Iron

Man armor wars or Stark Wars like that was a

little bit too too bright. This is bright, but

it's not like overpowering to me Death in the

family. I liked it. It was very climactic It

did leave you kind of on the edge of your seat

I think it did a much better job other than the

other than the The constant dialogue box change

color background, but that's a nitpick on my

part What about you overall for a death in the

family? Overall, I think it was really good I

think at points it almost could have been trimmed

but I definitely see the resemblances there on

certain things and it was nice showing a little

bit more of what happens after the time that

Jason was killed instead of just kind of I mean

I was aware that he died Yeah, because they even

flashback to part of it in Nightfall Which wasn't

too many more issues after this took place How

long is Nightfall? Nightfall is an all -encompassing

across many of the DC comics I think it started

in like the 480s somewhere I want to say yeah,

it started in the I think the 460s or 50s or

something because They made a big deal about

going issue 500 Because John Paul Valley as real

becomes Batman for a while because Bane broke

Batman's back right and Tim Drake is Robin at

the time yeah, so Tim Drake is having to be the

moral compass for The John Paul Valley at that

point. So I think because I used to have the

issues I want to say it's somewhere around the

450s or 60s that The nightfall event starts taking

place or at least starts up to getting closer

to nightfall It might be the 460s where it actually

starts Really taking place because there's it's

a three -part saga It's like nightfall Night's

end and and something else But by the end of

it Batman Bruce Wayne ends up Batman again In

a similar cape and cowl. It's this cape and cowl

pretty much is consistent through the 500s Or

at least part of it because then they go Somewhere

shortly after they they end up hitting the What

is it called the The hush yeah timeline and then

they do you know like the no man's land and all

that kind of stuff so Yeah, I'm sure you know

as I'm going through all these old Batman books.

I'm trying to figure out I told this story way

back in episode 3 of the podcast when we did

our Origins episodes for each other There was

a Batman book. It was fairly big That my mom

had gotten me at some consignment shop back in

the late 80s And it scared the crap out of me.

It was not this bright colors. It was the dark

stuff I'm still trying to figure out what it

was. It might have been Nightfall wasn't dark

was it Batman wasn't but everything else was

okay and it was it was pretty morbid at points

I mean you saw every villain escape out of Arkham

yeah interesting it's it's definitely that that's

one of the other tales that you just have to

read yeah oh no yeah no we'll probably do that

next year for the Batman spotlight in May because

after these 10 or 12 episodes for the 75th anniversary

celebration, I'm probably gonna be pretty much

Batman'd out. Any other final thoughts before

we close this one out? No, it's definitely showing

how twisted the Joker can be. I do think that

the Joker is more creepy in Death of the Family.

I'm sabotaging the entire family unit I still

would have liked to have seen him kill someone

in it yeah, but him toying with their brains

and Screwing with how well he knows them all

I think fit really well, too So I mean it's I

can kind of see part of the correlation, but

it's I almost don't see them related Yeah, no

I don't see them related, but it's It's a thing

of that, you know, I don't know, it's an interesting

dynamic of having to, you know, not necessarily

having to reuse the title of this as the title

of that and just changing it to Death of the

Family. I will say that I did like Death of the

Family not necessarily more than this story,

but I did like what the Joker there was trying

to do and trying to say. And I do understand

that he was basically saying, look, all these

people you surround yourself with are taking

away from your true greatness. I get that. Still,

somebody should have died. The Joker should have

killed Damian Wayne. For me, based off of the

GCR and Universal Rating System, I'm going to

give this three and a half stars, which is liked

it. uh like i said before there are parts in

it where i was like i was just so confused with

some of the monologuing from batman because of

the color changes um and i know that's a little

nitpick but i like i didn't have maybe it's because

i didn't read this as a kid i didn't have the

emotional connection to Jason Todd's death reading

this I mean it's very tragic and but what makes

it more tragic for me reading this Storyline

is the fact that his mother set him up versus

what the Joker actually does to him Yeah, I kind

of agree that's it's it's very sadistic. Yeah,

what about you? What are you gonna rate it? I'll

probably give her a three point five out of out

of out of five just because it's It's good But

I mean I really don't see any any things that

could have really been altered because it was

giving some background information and giving

motivation For why he was over there in the first

place? Yeah So it does it does give some insight

into all of the surrounding the event that took

place in five minutes of under the red hood But

it's it's it's also kind of It's interesting,

I'll just say that. Yeah, it is very, very interesting.

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back to you. How you may ask? Well, first of

all, we're coming up with a brand new website

to be launched June 1st, 2014. In addition to

that, there'll be many new features for interactive

abilities. So how do you enter into this magical

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