Hadrian’s Wall #1-2

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Pull Bag. Hello folks and welcome to episode

139 of The pull bag. I am of course TFJ and Mike

joining me once again. This week is movie role

Dan. Hello, sir. Hello. How are you? Very well,

very well, and we're gonna be diving into something

that We have yet to tackle I've tackled a couple

other things from these these creators like I

mentioned a couple weeks ago We're gonna be talking

about Hadrian's wall issues numbers one and two

from image comics now Originally I was going

to have I Hate Fairyland 9 and 10 and Hadrian's

Wall come out back to back, but I forgot I recorded

Eternity War 14 and 15, so they're a week apart

from each other. But if you look at I Hate Fairyland

compared to the beginning of Hadrian's Wall,

two very different stories, two very different

series. Oh, very much so. Almost every way. Almost

every way. Had you read any of Kyle Higgins and

Alec and Rod's Cowl series? No, I only read a

little bit of his run on Nightwing. I haven't

really read anything else he's done. Except for

Power Rangers. Power Rangers, yeah. Cowl is pretty

much like one of Super Heroes had a labor union.

Takes place in Chicago. It's a really good fun

series. It's it's you know Yeah, so go check

that out it you know if you're enjoying this

I think you'll enjoy that so basically for anybody

that doesn't know Hadrian's Wall When an astronaut

on Hadrian's Wall is murdered pill -popping detectives

Simon Moore is dispatched to investigate the

ship's crew including his own ex -wife But if

Simon's not careful, what he finds could make

the interstellar Cold War go red hot from the

creative team behind critically acclaimed series

Cowl comes a gripping locked room murder mystery

where the secrets of everyone involved are as

dark as the space that surrounds them. I have

always been excited for Kyle's stuff ever since

I first read Gates of Gotham and then I found

the New 52 Nightwing series. And just absolutely

love that. When he announced Cowell, I jumped

on that like white on rice. And just absolutely

love it. When this was announced, I'm like, ooh.

Because this is basically a murder mystery in

space, but it's set 100 years after 1985. Yeah,

it's a good it's good blending of genres which

you know image is known for and you know great

kind of tropes atmosphere of a crime film with

classic noir but in the setting of a futuristic

space Station, so it's a good plan that ends

up actually working quite well As we start this

we see one of the astronauts who is who is out

in space and his helmet starts to crack and he

ends up dying and he screams his wife's name

and Rod Rice's art is amazing. I mean again go

back and look at just for you go back and look

at Cowell and you'll see you know somewhat similarities

from that to this but I mean this whole opening

shot Of him dying is just Epically eerie. Yeah,

I mean the first, you know, the way it's paced

is pretty brilliant the first You know two pages

as you see his eyes are closed and then the ultimate

like you almost think he's oh man He must be

he must be dead as series are going down the

page but the look of like sudden fear that you

get in the third image is pretty striking as

like you see the the glass slowly starts to break

further and further and just that continues as

it goes on and it's just it's really uh it's

really strongly done the fact that you're getting

so much really out of a really limited space

all you're really seeing for the most part is

his head and his his uh his mask or sorry his

helmet and and it's really well done um just

little cracks the really great use of facial

expressions and also the coloring is pretty brilliant

and in this book all together overall there's

this really like this blue sheen for the most

part that kind of that covers most of the pages

but the use of red and yellow really accent like

Emotion or fear and important elements and it

continues throughout this and we get it really

here Like they did like the small spattering

of blood. It's only like a little it's just I

don't know It's all that more effective. It's

it's quite quite great. It's a great opening

to the book right away Yeah, absolutely So we

get this this last panel here with him with his

helmet blown out and believe you know him bleeding

in space and then we get to the main title sequence

where Hadrian's Wall Chapter 1 and because I

have read Cowell and I know how these three creators

work when they do their creator -owned series

I was really like I was looking at all like this

entire star chart the first time I open this

book on comixology I'm like oh okay so these

are all the different constellations and planets

and whatever else in this thing and it's basically

you know a launch parameter kind of, you know,

chart graph thing. And I just absolutely love

that. Cause again, it's so different. It's so

interesting. It's not your standard, um, you

know, title page. Yeah. And it gives you an idea

right away of what they mean when they say Hadrian's

wall. It's clearly not a natural wall in the

sense of, uh, yeah, something you would climb

over, but it's a. It's a good opening. Yeah,

for sure. Thank God Trump did not build it No,

but image paid for it That's so wrong So wrong

so we go to Wow Alright then, we go to Seattle,

Washington on Earth, August 2085 and we meet

Simon and he is pretty much telling the cashier

that he's giving them the wrong change and they're

arguing over what the computer says and all that.

I found this refreshing. I thought this was fun

after the opening scene. What did you think of

this scene with the first main character here?

it's good it gives us a lot of information obviously

we get the opening shot of just what this world

is like it's kind of very blade runner -esque

yeah and it's designed with the flying cars giant

you know giant billboards and then this little

scene here you know it's kind of funny but also

tells us a lot about the world you know it's

the system where people seem to be lock any type

of self -reliance. Our main character, which

would seem like it's a main character based upon

the way he's designed and how he's kind of the

highlight of all these pages, has, you know,

seems to be a little bit aloof compared to everyone

else, or aloof may not be the right word, but

clearly a little bit more of a curmudgeon and

a little bit more wants to get things done. And

also clearly has some sort of, we don't know

at this moment in time, but clearly has a...

for drug Yeah, or another so within this first

panel. There's a lot of information We understand

the world a little bit more we understand our

main character a little bit more and kind of

get a sense of kind of where The people are at

this moment in time, so it's it's well done Mm

-hmm and he meets up with With one of his buddies

and and they you know go talk and and the guy's

name is Marshall and they end up going to Simon's

apartment and Marshall's kind of taken aback

that even though Simon's addicted to pills or

whatever He's kind of shocked that the guy's

apartment is clean Yeah Which again shows us

is giving us some more innovation information

regarding him at least of what people view him

as or the situation that he's in and again going

back to that use of color and from the last page

to this page that how the pills really seem to

be Highlighted as a very important item because

you know, they have that yellow look to them.

They really stand out and a lot of attention

has been paid to them already and we're only

really a few pages in and they've been highlighted

as much as he has. Yeah, and if you look at the

way that Simon and Marshall are in his apartment,

like if you look at the panel where Marshall

says... It's clean in here. You see Simon's like

his TV and his other things in the background

and the brick wall and we see that it's it's

partially white with black and grays and and

that's what I love about Rod Reese's art is that

they like you said they take a certain item and

focus on it. The background is a focus and you

notice it but it's not to the point where it's

so overbearing. because some backgrounds can

overpower a scene and the way that he's doing

this, like you said, highlighting, full on highlighting

the pill bottle compared to the background of,

you know, even when he's pouring the wine, you

know, in the wine glass, you know, same kind

of thing where the highlight is on the glass

and the character... and the background colors

are just kind of there obviously Simon is you

know he's got his full features when he's holding

the wine glass and all that but you know the

art style of Rod Reese's I almost want to say

it's somewhat photorealism in this somewhat just

a little bit of photorealism it's not like Greg

land tracing but I could see what you mean yeah

it's the characters like I'm looking at the panel

where he's holding the glass before he goes and

gulps it down. That to me looks, it's not a flat

2D image of a character. It's almost as if the

character is popping off the page, like I need

three glasses to read this comic. Yeah, yeah,

makes sense. It's really good too, because if

you notice the sight lines that he has us focus

in on. Like going back to the use of the bottle

like it's the pills that they're off the the

focus of nearly every panel that they're in that's

where your eyes are going Uh, you know, either

it's him trying to open the bottle like him finally

opening it him taking it They're always he designs

each each of those panels where that's where

your eye naturally goes So but what his art too,

I think is really great and it'll probably get

this more in the second issue really strong like

When I say acting, I mean acting in the sense

of you really get at expressing the emotions

within a scene, like within a panel, even though

there are people just talking to each other within

panels. It's telling us a lot regarding these

different characters, which is hard to do. It's

hard to keep that exciting when all you're really

providing is dialogue because these the one knock

I would give this issue is there is a great deal

of exposition within this conversation. There's

a lot of kind of going over and bringing us up

to speed and it's it's tactfully done for the

most part, but it is it's the bulk of this conversation

is is lying on exposition. I mean. but that's

not bad for me because I mean we all mostly hate

exposition but sometimes we all mostly need the

exposition because again this is a brand new

series we don't know any of these people so if

they if Kyle and Alec as the writers can set

all the exposition up here and then lead us into

the action starting an issue too I'm fine with

one issue of exposition I mean it's not all exposition

in this issue but like you said this first kind

of not half but first quarter of of this issue

is the exposition of the story meeting the characters

and if this was a comic that was you know ongoing

for seventy years yeah i'd have a problem with

that but because it's just a brand new series

and this series is only going to be eight issues

so it's an eight issue story arc so one out of

eight For exposition? I mean, that's not the

worst thing in the world when it comes to a comic

book. True. I mean, exposition by itself isn't

bad. It's how it's handled. And for the most

part, it's handled well. There are some moments

within the conversation where I feel it is heavy

-handed and unnatural compared to some of the

other conversations, like they're talking about

their setup that's going to be moving them. the

plot forward regarding him going out the space

and investigating the murder of the husband of

his ex -wife and like how he how he brings up

the fact that like um i think he says he shot

me four times and married my ex -wife and i and

talking i don't really care what happened to

him like that like it seemed considering like

these guys are friends and know each other that

was just a very an organic way of providing that

information compared to everything else up to

this point. So I go back to the first couple

of pages where we get a lot of great kind of

lead into what this world is like that's done

really well. In this panel, it just wasn't as

strong for me. Again, it's necessary, like you

said, it's only issues you got to do a lot. It's

really hard for a first issue to introduce characters,

set up the premise, and then kind of get things

going. So it's gonna happen, it's nearly impossible

for it not to, but if I was going to look for

something to critique regarding this first issue,

that's probably, that's really the only shortcoming

I see. Because the rest is really strong, and

it does a good job of kind of getting, to me,

when I want to get a first issue, the first thing

I want to see is like, who are these characters?

Are they people I'm interested in? Despite the

fact this might be exposition heavy. I do really

like this conversation I do really feel invested

in this character, and I'm already really into

the story which is a strong sign of a good first

issue Absolutely, I was not expecting a full

color shot though like I I mean Because we go

into this flashback with with Simon and Annabelle

his now ex -wife and they're Driving down this

this coastal road. I mean I'm used to see and

I don't have a problem with this I'm just like

you know you go from these first you know a few

pages here of the white you know white gray black

backgrounds basically the monochromatic kind

of backgrounds and even Simon himself has a monochromatic

color scheme with the the grayish and with the

blue in this sides and with the the black pants

and everything else and you go to like a full

color flashback scene which I enjoy but I wasn't

expecting it. Yeah, and I think this is a good

example of show don't tell where like you said

the issues before this it's very like backgrounds

are minimal or Not there that focuses on him.

It's monochromatic. It's almost emotional list.

There's just something empty about it and then

we get this flashback, it is surprising in a

good way. There is so much said here without

being said from the use of colors. It's a lot

more bright, like that blue kind of grayness

that was existing in the balance before is gone.

It's brighter, it's shinier, it's happier. He

seems like a completely different person. And

it's just them having a normal conversation.

And we can take a lot from this. We can see,

man, this is what his life was. This is where

he's at. This is a great panel of giving us just

an idea of just kind of how far he has fallen

as a person without someone going and pointing

that out to us. Yeah, absolutely. Of course,

it's you know it starts off as a full -on flashback

because the very you know he you know he's just

standing there and The way that Kyle and Alec

write this is they write this scene Which is

you know it turns out to be a dream sequence

apparently Which that is a little strange like

he trails off at the very beginning of you know

What you know whatever he says in that last panel

before it goes to the flashback and then we have

the flashback and then all of a sudden he's in

bed shirtless and apparently it was a dream that

was a little strange but it's still not gonna

ruin my enjoyment of the of the book so far no

i think it's i mean i think it's just giving

you idea of his mindset it's flashback or dream

i think it's more of a transitional uh sequence

but it's a transition that's done effectively

i think you kind of want that you you you want

to not know You know, it's not just a typical

Fast Black. It's not just this comic going back

in time and focusing on a specific situation.

It's the character himself, even subconsciously,

you know, going back to this specific time. So

I think that's, that packs a little bit more

of a punch than if we saw him like go, there

was an additional pattern where you see him go

to sleep and then we get the dream and then he

wakes up. So I think it's, I personally like

how they handle it here. Yeah, I like it. I just,

again, you know, going, when I'm reading through

it to read the comic to get the story, I didn't

really notice it, but just going back and kind

of looking through it again, it's like, oh yeah,

that was a little strange. So he gets an incoming

call in the middle of the night from the ex -wife,

Annabelle, and basically their conversation that

goes on through these next couple panels and

pages is that she, as the ex -wife or the widow

of the deceased, doesn't want an investigation.

She doesn't want Simon to go up there, she doesn't

want anything to happen, you know. Yeah and that's

the I think the one conceit of this book is that

you have to kind of buy the fact that they would

have a guy investigate. the murder of his ex

-wife's husband who also shot him. I mean, it

does seem like, why would they do that? It doesn't

seem logical, is this something to do? But also

kind of picks up some questions regarding like,

okay, is this actually some sort of hidden plan

that they picked him for a reason that blackmail

him for something? And so there's, you know.

there's a lot of questions there that could be

answered so but i could see a lot of people hearing

that feeling okay this is ridiculous why would

they pick this person it doesn't seem like you

know you'd want this guy to investigate the death

of a guy that shot him but for me when i'm reading

that i'm also thinking like okay like why why

was this guy chosen there must be a reason and

uh maybe there's more behind there and i think

we kind of get some hints of that as the book

goes on We get to the next morning and Simon

is at his desk popping pills and Marshall comes

in and gives him the 411 on what the mission

is going to be. I enjoy this scene. I think it's

another one of those expositional scenes, but

it's interesting to see how the two characters

react to it all. or actually just interact with

it all really and then of course we get the launch

and we get the giant beautiful image which is

currently my desktop image of Hadrian's Wall

the ship you know up against the planet and that

Rod did an amazing job with this Yeah, it's a

it's a great. It's a great shot. It gives us

again It gives us a good location to a good understanding

of this of the ship as a whole and love the use

of color Love the little planet in the background.

Mm -hmm. Yeah good stuff absolutely and The color

palette completely changes not a bad thing, but

we we have a new environment so the color palette

is gonna change and we've got these these ship

workers who basically Simon and Marshall come

in and Simon's like, okay, time to do interviews

with everybody. No one can work. And he obviously

gets in an argument with the captain and all

that. And the captain just is not happy at all.

No, this is a good introduction into Obviously

the players that will be within the book, you

know, we get we get a little bit introduction

of them before he shows up and Just kind of a

lead -in into Setting the stage for what the

series will be about Absolutely So we go to the

corner and You know, I don't want to say John

Simon Wanting the doctor to walk him through

the body and you know doing the autopsy and all

that and and basically They're saying that Edward

didn't get back inside in time and and you know

he's asking how does he account for the bruising

for the neck and just all this medical stuff

which is interesting and fun and I think it's

again it gives us another piece of color for

for the background of the ship because most of

this is all bluish green white and gray there's

a little bit of blacks in here but not much And

I just think it's an interesting way of basically

having the investigator come up and say, okay,

well, what about this, this and this? Because

apparently this doctor isn't doing his job properly.

Yeah, I mean, he kind of looks like Lurch in

a way. Yeah. Yeah, and it gets us like, because

at this point in time, we don't really, like,

we don't know him beyond just the conversation

he's had to get his pills and kind of his relationship

to his wife. You know, we don't really know what

type of investigator he is. Is he actually good

at his job? Was he picked because he's bad at

his job? But in this conversation, it seems like

in the work he's doing that, you know, he has

a head out on his shoulders and he's good at

this type of stuff. So it's a good scene to give

us the idea of, OK, no, Simon Simon knows his

stuff. He knows what he's doing and he's able

to correct the doctor within, you know, with

only a few with only a few moments. Yeah, absolutely.

and we go to yet another flashback. He is actually

in Annabelle's room at this point, but the flashback

is him and Annabelle and Simon, or not Simon,

I'm sorry, that's the guy's name, Edward and

just looking at him, and we flash to where Edward

shoots him, and we then see Annabelle, and she's

not exactly happy to see him. At all. No great

use of posture. Obviously a lot of language with

it within just her the way she's standing The

flashback shot of him getting the image of him

getting shot was I think really well done What's

interesting too is like we kind of don't know

at this point You know moment in time why he

got shot like obviously he got shot yet The other

guy is not in jail. So was he in the wrong here?

So there's again some more questions that have

yet to be answered or really addressed yet. And,

you know, we've got the whole thing between the

two of them and I just, I love the color disposition

between the two of them. She's got green hair,

green eyes and green lipstick and basically all

in white and he's got, you know, his black hair

and blue and beige, you know, beige, grayish

kind of. things and again the backgrounds for

the art are amazing because they basically make

the characters pop off the screen and what's

interesting about the art too is within the layout

is how there's these sudden bursts of emotion

for a lot of the panels you see them and they're

almost void of like emotion or they're they're

they're putting on what seems like a fake face

and then you know there's a quick uh you know

panel of Just extreme emotion with a lot of movement

and then back to normal again Just kind of showing

just just the bipolar nature of the relationship

how it can go back and forth relatively quickly

Just through the way he's laying out these these

few pages And we have more with the two of them

basically, you know discussing, you know, she's

saying that people don't change we both knew

that and You know, you and I, we're always going

to end up apart and everything else. And he basically

says, oh, first time Annabelle, I'm here for

the money. And we kind of end this first issue

with some stranger coming into Simon's room,

opening up his Ziploc and pouring his pills down

the drain. Yeah. I mean, you think about it the

first. Interaction we have with him is him getting

his pills and the last we see of them being down

the drain so It's again that we've been talking

I've been talking about that a lot because it's

been built up really well to this moment so now

it's like that's a pretty good good cliffhanger

to leave on and You know, I'm really liking him

as a character like he's got it like a kind of

Sam Spade vibe that I enjoy so Usually at the

end of a first issue really my question is like

do you know? Do I like the characters or I like

the world enough to keep going and For me it

was it was a strong yes on all those fronts Absolutely,

I love the characters I love how interesting

they all are and they all seem to be because

we don't know everything about them yet Even

Simon we we know that he's partially a junkie

on pills and you know We know he's divorced from

Annabelle. We know that you know his best friend

shot him at one point and and All of that and

the rest of it is is just kind of up in the air

I mean we do know that you know We know certain

ways of how he acts and how he reacts to certain

things like the very beginning of the issue You

know when he's in the line trying to argue with

the guy over a dollar or something, you know

That's really really interesting for issue one

for me I gotta give it a four and a half because

both the story and the art, yes, there's a little

bit too much exposition in it, but I think, again,

I can give that a pass because, again, it's the

first issue and it's the first time we're meeting

these characters and the stories, but the art

to me, Rod Reese is just an amazing artist and

it just pops so well. What about you? I'm gonna

go with four, which, again, it's very good. I

enjoyed it a lot. I kind of mentioned some of

the problems I had, but... Overall like as someone

who's not read a lot of what like Kyle Higgins

has done outside of this I was quite impressed

with with the series and right from the beginning

so Issue two Picks up pretty much kind of where

issue one left off a little bit, but we start

off with the interviews We start off with a nice

opening shot of the planet with the ship, and

again, I need to see more of Rod Reiss' space.

Like, I need to see more of it. Like, this I

wish was a huge panel, you know, blown up in

a Comixology -guided view. I understand why it's

not, but I wish it was. Yeah. So these next few

pages I kind of talked about a little bit, but

to me, the sign of a good writer and a good artist

and a good In a good team together is when they

can think take things that should be boring and

make them interesting And I think that's what

we see here in these first few pages. These are

just legitimately conversations you know interviews

that in a lot of instances would probably go

on maybe half panel if that but I really like

how they're the focus here and it's again a like

management of panels and arranging panels is

a Not a lost art, but it's a very important art

that sometimes doesn't get pointed out enough

and this has done great really well if you'd

like A lot of very rarely are we seeing but we're

seeing individuals together only in the in specific

shots When it's necessary, but when something

specifically important is being said on either

end They're the focal point. They're the only

people person we're looking at So it's kind of

like our camera director or director uses the

camera Same thing here, and it's done really

well. It reminds me of how Aaron Sorgan does

his dialogue, so it's kind of ping -pong -y.

And same thing here, not only just in the dialogue,

but the way that the characters are laid out

on the page. Absolutely, and I love reading the

interviews because I love reading the reactions

of the crew members. I think that's really, really

fun. We open up this after the after the title

page of Hadrian Hadrian Hadrian's wall chapter

2 where Simon is talking into a recorder and

He sees that his pills are gone and He's gonna

go ahead and blame Marshall a little bit and

you know basically tells marshall you brought

me out here to give a full understanding of events

that's what i'm doing because basically marshall

and the company works for basically once i mean

just to sweep this on the road they don't want

anybody to know about this guy's death at all

exactly uh... so there's something something

there obviously uh... and he sees that all the

pills have been been flushed down he you know

thinks it's Marshall, but it really isn't and

Which again is is very very interesting Yeah,

again, it goes back to I mentioned that like

you have to buy this conceit of the comic like

why would they choose this guy? It seems kind

of out of left field But it also plants the seed

of suspicion that they're really working in here

Well, because it does seem like okay. Was it

him like did he do this does he like clearly

just wants this? Over and done with and maybe

that's why he's been chosen, you know, is he

the one behind it? It's it's pointing the blame

like right now, you know We we know too mean,

you know his ex -wife in in him. So we have two

really major suspects Already and then we've

only really pretty much everyone we've met in

a serious banner Someone we can suspect with

a crime which is well done Absolutely it is And

we go back down to the doctors. Apparently, Edward

had about six times the normal dosage for a jump

drive cocktail in his system. It's interesting.

At least they didn't use ours like an old lace.

No, no. They could have watched it though because

it's a great movie. Yeah, absolutely. you know,

and the doctor says that he was drugged and he

goes back and does his little phone recorder

thing and goes through all the evidence that

he's collected and we get back to Annabelle and

she's not really wanting to answer his questions

and she basically says, I loved him, he loved

me and he goes into all these personal questions

of when's the last time you had sex You know

all that stuff because again, he's he's interviewing

her for for the ship thing And this is really

great because like this, you know classic nine

panel Comic layout here and each panel is just

you know their face back and forth back and forth

back and forth very short brief dialogue, you

know, very barely the one sentence five to six

words at most again and just giving us a lot

of information and it gets their conversations

become shorter and shorter eventually she says

no and again we we barely see them together it's

just one face the other face some perfect art

in this because this only works if you have an

artist that can express emotion in an effective

way and he's really good at that like each panel

is says so much which is without giving you a

lot of words which is great. Absolutely it is

and then we go to a page where he has he does

a two panel shot of two panels of each of them

one of each of them in in each of the parts of

the page and basically his last his last remark

to her was you know well i think that's about

it and all right and she walks off and he asks

her was edward depressed and uh she basically

glares at him and says he didn't kill himself

yeah and that's also like an additional element

now with that maybe it wasn't murder maybe it

was him him doing it, because if you think back

to the first issue of the first comic, the first

panel of the first comic, it's him with his eyes

closed and almost in a peaceful state. So you

think maybe that was his original plan and then

something even more heinous happened. But again,

it's doing a good job of raising different questions

while giving us some insight of these characters.

Yeah, absolutely. And we cut back to the ship.

And the captain's like, OK, you're done with

your interviews, right? Because he wants his

crew to get back to work because they all have

jobs and whatever else. And Simon's like, yeah,

no, not yet. Just a few more. And then we have

the traditional cafeteria scene. Yeah. Everyone's

worst nightmare, being stuck sitting at a table

by yourself. Yeah and You know He and the doctor

have a conversation which is interesting and

You know that Edward was drugged and You know

it's sad for everybody, but if you know if I'd

be nice the shadows weren't real and Apparently

Marshall's in league with somebody because we

see Marshall making a deal with uh this how like

the second issue kind of ends is the person that

messed with with Simon's pills is actually probably

working for Marshall and they kind of do a little

handshake and you know we get it to be continued

and after reading these first two issues I need

to read this whole series like now. Right now,

I think they're only up to issue four or five

that's been released or maybe even just issue

three, maybe four and five haven't come out yet.

But man, I am just loving this. This is just

awesome. Yeah. And again, these last panels,

they give us a little bit of an answer because

clearly, OK, we know that something heinous has

happened because but there's also Multiple people

involved in who is this hooded figure that is

also part of it. So It's a good job of answering

a question with another question without being

frustrating, but I agree. It's really strong

It's I mean the war and crime is like my favorite

genre And I appreciate a really strong noir story.

And this is a really strong noir story with the

added dimension that you have this, you know,

science fiction setting that is working really

well. It gives us a really fresh take at something.

It feels original, even though it's relying on

a lot of classic tropes, but in a good way. So

I agree. It's very strong first two issues. Absolutely.

And the fact that it's set in 2085, somewhere

where... We may or may not get to that you know

and and that's what I kind of like about certain

future stories is That they'll take something

like the basic is I actually I'm gonna actually

link this in the post folks And I don't know

if you had a chance to listen to it before I

know I send it to you But I went back and I listened

to the interview that Kyle Higgins did on I think

it's called the I word is image images main podcast

I think that's what it's called. I could be wrong.

I'm sorry like I said. I'll link it in the post

It's a 30, 40 minute interview with him talking

about what he's been doing and what he's going

to be doing. And the main focus of it is this

series and the way that he explains it is, you

know, what if, you know, in the eighties, something

happened where the two biggest, you know, cause

he loves cold war stories. One of the two biggest

superpowers went to war, you know, nuclear destruction

in New York and, and Russia and. You get this

series and you get this series 100 years in the

future from 19... It always goes back to 1985,

folks. It doesn't matter if it's a DeLorean or

not. I mean... 1985 is a linchpin for time travel.

Yeah. The feeling I get, too, is from... I don't

know if you've ever read it. The Expanse novel

series, which is also a TV show on, I believe.

But it's similar, where it's... This it takes

place in the future and there's a murder that

occurs actually there's a disappearance and it's

again. It's a crime Kind of a crime genre story

in a science fiction world and they feel feel

very similar. So if you like this, I would definitely

Advise reading that book Leviathan wakes is the

first issue first book but this it's this is

a little bit different because It's not as far

in the future. And those elements that you speak

of, they haven't really even come into play yet.

This has really been more of a personal relationship.

That's really been the focal point, which is

good because as we get into that element of it,

I think it's going to give us a little bit more

to invest in. It's really starting scope wise,

more intimate. But if clearly by the end of this,

there are some more things kind of afoot here.

So by giving us that strong foundation. It's

going to, I think, hopefully pay dividends as

we continue the series. Absolutely. And I cannot

wait to read more issues of this because, again,

what I love about certain comic companies like

Image, like IDW, Don't know that much about value,

but I'm sure they may do this as well even even

even Xenoscope with the Grim Fairytale stuff

that they do but specifically image in IDW They

will sit there and tell you okay This series

is only going to be X number of issues like they

set it up that way They don't just do what the

big to do and just dangle something in front

of us for so long and then just You know nope

sorry you missed it too slow You know, yeah,

um So abs good. Yeah, I mean marvel in dc have

occasionally have limited series that to begin

with but sometimes with an image or you know

a valiant series You don't know like this one.

It's one of eight So, you know right away, but

some you know her design to only go 12 issues

from the beginning but this one is 80 issue series

doesn't necessarily mean it'll end there I could

end there and then yeah, it could be more stories

to come but I do I like you know, when someone

comes in with a plan of this is, you know, this

is an eight issue complete story and that's it.

And that is, I mean, the, that is refreshing.

Yeah. So far from what I've heard from, cause

I've, I'm actually friends with Alex Siegel and

Rod Rice on Facebook. Um, and I had to, this

is before I listened to the podcast that'll be

linked in, in, in the episode post, but I sent,

normally I don't send a lot of people. a lot

of famous people messages on it just we're friends

but you know it's like okay you know i like seeing

what you post and whatever else and all that

but i'm not gonna sit here and message you and

bug you but i wanted to message alec and ask

him how to pronounce the damn name so i got it

right and it's basically adrian with an h sound

at the beginning so it's hadrian uh so because

and for a while there i was calling it hadrian's

wall So I wanted to make sure I had that right

But yeah, no I can't wait for us to do more of

these because you know we you know We you know

I brought you on to do I mean you've been on

the show before in the last four or five years

But you know we kind of started our own little

series here with I hate for a land and we that's

kind of wrapped for now And now we've got this

that's gonna be eight issues, so that's Four

different podcasts You know, it's going to be

fun and interesting, and it's going to be a very

interesting ride, because like you said, we haven't

gotten to... The only reason why I mentioned

the fact that it was the time travel thing and

the nuclear holocaust, again, is because the

story elements, some of those plot details are

out there already. Oh yeah, they're in the peripheral,

but they're not the focus yet. Yeah, exactly.

Alright folks that's gonna do it for us here

inside the pull bag for issue or episode 139

This is gonna be one of two episodes in March,

and then we're gonna kind of Take the rest of

March off to kind of prepare for April April

we're gonna have two TMNT episodes Joe Reed's

gonna come back and we're gonna talk at TMNT

61 to 64 because we've With me going out into

California and getting my heart broken over Christmas

You know all that crap and whatever kind of behind

on TMNT and then after that we're gonna do TMNT

universe, which is the other ongoing that they

have for TMNT, but next time March 5th 2017 is

our five -year anniversary So we're gonna be

having five years of jumping inside the pullback

Basically what I want is whether you're a fan

of the show whether you're a coast the show and

I'll contact co -hosts and everything else individually

I Want people to send me in ten minutes or less

clips mp3 files basically saying Why comics are

important to them? How does how do comics make

them feel? What do they think of where the cut

you know? Where comics are going and that kind

of stuff. So anyone wants to send in clips to

me they can send them the TF2 and Mike at gmail

.com and What's um, well since this is March

I assume I assume I don't know but I assume that

Talking in circles is gonna go back to March

badness again this year. Aren't you guys? That's

a good question. I don't know we may That's weird.

That's been our tradition the last two years.

We have not discussed it. So We might do something

similar as we always enjoy doing some sort of

tournament, so we'll see. It's still up in the

air at this moment in time. It's hard to find

characters that we haven't got to yet. We're

running out of people, so if we can come up with

a good pool of people, we'll do it again. You

can always do B and C movie actors. True. I mean,

there's a lot of those. Kathy Griffin versus

Stephen Baldwin. Man, I think we all lose in

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