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Mars Attacks Popeye and Angel Masks

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About this Episode

Mike reviews IDW's Mars Attacks Popeye with Nicole, a fun crossover that pairs the classic sailor with invading Martians and the Sea Hag. Then he and Jeremy dive into Angel Masks, an IDW anthology featuring four stories set in the Angel universe: a post-Smile Time adventure with Puppet Angel and Nina, an Illyria training session, a Cordelia demon-chase story, and a Lindsay McDonald origin tale for his connection to Eve.

Welcome to The Pull Bag. Join us as we dig out

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panel of the GCRN crew. So sit back and enjoy

this week's Pull Bag. Hello folks, TFG1Mike here.

And this is The Pull Bag's 113th episode overall.

I wanted to make this the Halloween episode.

I wanted to get some sort of Halloween -y type

comics to review. And as most of you may know,

I'm not too much into the horror genre at all.

I wanted this to be fun. It is going to be very

fun, folks. So I picked two comics that I thought

were going to be very Halloween -ish. Apparently,

I should have picked a different comic. I wanted

Nicole DeHale and I to talk about Mars Attacks

Popeye, and I wanted Jeremy Fine and I to talk

about... Angel's Masks. Angel Masks is a single

-issue, four -story comic. Came out from IDW

a couple of years ago. which it deals with more

of Puppet Angel. You remember Jeremy and I did

Angel's smile time adaptation in episode 99 of

The Pull Bag. Well this is kind of a continuation

of that except it's only one story that deals

with Puppet Angel himself. What I should have

done was I should have got Jeremy together with

me and I should have got Angel Masks and the

Puppet Spike comic that they did. for mighty

w but it is what it is I had fun recording both

reviews here that you'll hear today so please

enjoy this not so Halloween Halloween episode

of the bull bag I guess let's get to it folks

first up is Popeye or more aptly known as Mars

attacks Popeye Alright folks, as I said in the

intro, this is episode 113 of The Pull Bag. This

is the Halloween episode for 2015. Of course,

I am TF2Unlike, as you know. Joining me for this

first part of the episode is Nicole BeatlesdivaHellstorm.

Hello! Oh sure! Aloha! Hi! How are you? Good,

how are you doing? I'm okay. Are you losing your

mind yet? No, I'm losing my shit. Literally.

uh... literally people uh... so as you heard

in the intro that i did on this episode basically

uh... we were going to do originally this episode

of the someone thirty local that was originally

just going to be uh... mars attacks pop up and

i'm like well by the time we actually get to

this episode now we call hollywood's around the

corner I found the trade or whatever it is the

single issue of IDW's angels masks thing with

puppet angel and whatever Whatever else we had

already done smile time. So I'm like, okay We'll

make it a double whammy Halloween thing and surprisingly

the Mars attacks Popeye really isn't all that

Halloween themed at all. It's Martians Yeah,

at least it's not zombies. Thank God So I mean

look at the cover of this thing. It's amazing

it is Very much it is the cover is is Popeye

the Martians For all of us getting it When isn't

she getting that the only thing that's missing

from this comic is bluto where the hell is bluto

he arranged it all No, honestly, I like that

they had a different bad guy in this besides

Pluto, because that would be too, you know. On

the nose. Yeah. Yeah, I like that they brought

the sea cag in. So this is written by Martin

Powell. The art, colors, and lettering is done

by Terry Beatty. And the edits were Cecilia Gasone

and Craig Yeo. Or you, I don't know. whatever.

Popeye in Mars Attacks, panic from the sky. We

have olive oil, we have Eugene the Jeep, we have

Alice the goon, we have the sea hag, we have

Professor... What's the nozzle? Thank you. We

have castor oil, we have poop deck pappy, we

have the goons, we have wimpy, and we have the

Martians along with Popeye. And how long ago

was this released? It was the same year as Mars

Attacks Transformers, so that would have been

three years ago or two years ago March. 2012.

Yep. 2013 then. Okay. No, maybe it was 2012.

Okay. Oh, that's crazy because the series came

out and the series is so awesome. They also have

Mars Attacks Kiss, which is awesome. And of course

Mars Attacks Transformers. Which we had already

done. We had done Mars Attacks Transformers,

and you had suggested we do this. It came out

in January 2013, that's right. Okay. Because

I know they're going for the classic Popeye style

with the art here, but... Just looking at the

cover, I was expecting something more along the

lines of what the cover art is. This is how all

five of the single issues came out. It had the

exact same cover artist do it. I don't know why

they didn't give credit to the cover artist here.

It's weird. But they all have that same type

of feel to it. It's supposed to look like a trading

card because back in the day, You could do Mars

Attack trading cards. So that's why it has like

a number 29 on it and stuff. I'm just saying

the interior art isn't what I was expecting.

With the Mars attacks, this whole little spot,

they use their typical, their own artists. So

like the Transformers, I forgot, dang it. Who's

okay? They use it like they're Transformers artists

or Mars attacks kiss. They use the kiss artists.

So It's yeah, it's nothing shocking to me. So

No, it's not shocking I was just like I wasn't

expecting it to be like the like an actual episode

of the cartoon as far as the styling goes I was

expecting it to be a little bit more modern like

what the cover looks like I mean, it's not that

big of a deal. It's fine So we start off with

One late one stormy night Yay, folks. Oh wait

Snoopy's writing this You know Snoopy that's

how he starts off off dark stormy nights Yay

for Snoopy So we Start off with olive oil and

her papa and her Popeyes Papa. I don't know whatever.

That's her. That's her papa Okay, dad Popeyes

dad. You'll see later on comes later. Yeah, it's

the beard it threw me off Bad looks the same

to you Only when they're white When the beard

color is white So we start out with a dark and

stormy night and all of us basically saying she

doesn't like thunderstorms and she just feels

that something bad is gonna happen And her dad

says, oh turn up the radio, this is my favorite

program before you go to bed. Of course he ends

up falling asleep before he even can hear it.

And then the Martians show up. That's right,

I know, right? So the Martians show up, apparently

they can't even use the AK. I mean, come on,

they could have used AK. Instead of all the symbol

signs for that like That's that's also a Popeye

thing yeah, I I guess no because because that's

Usually if they need like some kind of what not

really a curse word that they'll use that the

Popeye Well, yeah, I mean they use that in a

lot of things, but I'm just saying because this

is supposedly from the mars attacks franchise

the movie and all that stuff i was just expecting

it to be a little bit more movie accurate uh...

so the aliens uh... arrived they're basically

cursing at this this laughing and we see that

is the sea hag with her vulture why is it every

evil woman in any fantasy like this has to have

an evil vulture on their shoulder i was all cultures

Vultures are very smart. Somehow I don't think

Cinderella's stepmother would work in this story.

Neither would Lucifer. Lucifer's awesome. So

we have the sea hag here. She expected them to

come and she shows them this shiny thing and

it kind of reminds me of hmm Maybe if I give

them that energy on goody goody, they'll reciprocate.

It looks like a 20 -sided die to me Yeah But

apparently they will not have any will of their

own since she put a hex on them And apparently

we have a next fine morning and we have Popeye.

Now I will say that the writer on this did a

dang good job with getting Popeye's speech down.

His little lisp and his way of talking. Yeah

they did a good job with the wording. So they

figure out something terrible has happened And...

The house is gone, everything's gone, and oh,

guess what? Everyone's safe. They're in the...

They're in the storm cellar. Yep. Well, blow

me down. What's wrong with that? That's Popeye

for you. I know. And... I can so hear the voice

in my head as he's speaking, so that's fun. See,

that shows you that the writing is good on this,

because you can actually hear the voice that

it's supposed to be. And when you find out that

they've been attacked by Martians, what's a marshkin?

What's a marshkin? I like that. And of course...

The professor tries to explain it and Popeye

still doesn't get it. It's not Pappy. That's

the professor. The professor tries to explain

it and Popeye still doesn't get it. And apparently

they have a fourth dimensional dog named Jeep.

He's been around for a while. Jeep's been around

for a while. Don't remember jeeping any of the

cartoons, but okay. He's been there. He was in

the comics back in the day Way back in the day,

so So what do we think so far here? I think right

now. It's a good setup. You know who the bad

guy is You're just waiting for it to happen.

You know that they're in distress poor olive

oil. You know she she's being olive oil Poor

olive oil. Famous last words. That woman, I swear.

I just love the professor here. Professor Watson

Nozzle. He makes this whole big explanation about

what Martians are, and then the Popeye's just

like, uh, what's a Martian like? Yeah, what's

a Martian? And Professor Watson Nozzle even does,

you know, a facepalm too. So we get to Jeep going

into their Getting in the board the Martian ship

and finding a guns because the the whole point

of the plot here is they want to reverse engineer

the ray Yes, and Two Martians come upon him and

he essentially just lets them crack their domes

together And then we get back to professor and

He really sounds like He sounds like Adam West

here the professor Yeah, Eureka now off to my

laboratory provided. It's still standing and

science will defeat these dastardly usurpers

yet And this is one of the typical you actually

have to read this Popeyes response. It's a typical

Popeye kind of thing where they actually have

a picture of a screw and a ball. I think it's

so funny. It's kind of like the flag that Daffy

wore in Duckamuck when Bugs turned him into that

purple thingamajig. Oh yeah, I remember that!

Part of Daffy's tail. Bugs turned Daffy's tail

into a flagpole and on the flag it had screwball.

Good stuff. You know better than that. So olive

oil's like, where are you going, Popeye? Marshkin

or no Marshkin? I wins me fights with me fiscs.

And wow, he wins fights with the kingpin? I don't

know. I think the kingpin could knock him for

a loop. I don't know. It depends if Popeye's

had his spinach or not. So Popeye's gonna go

do some fighting and this is where we catch up

to to Pappy and At first he is anyway, but then

again he is old yeah Old people are very set

in their ways I'll say as I was reading this,

the art has grown on me. I still wish it was

a little bit more modern style, but I mean...

But if you picked up a Popeye comic off the shelf

today, this is what it looks like. Oh. Hmm. Okay.

Yeah. The Popeye comics look just like this.

Hmm. Okay. so Popeye gets rejected by Pappy and

Pappy's not gonna help him and he's really mad

about it and This is where we meet Alice the

goon I Love Alice. She's like a How would you

an albino Bigfoot I guess Oh God now now all

as I can see is a miniature Popeye in her hand

Have my own little bunny rabbit George and I'm

going to love him and pet him and squeeze him

Are you kidding me? Abominable snowman that that

I have that in my head all the time Is I use

the I use the gosh, it's hot image They use that

every summer on Facebook. I posted it years and

years and years ago and and the The whole thing,

absolutely. There are a lot of Looney Tunes cartoons

I remember just off the tip of my tongue here.

So Alice is pointing to her goons and apparently

the goons are also dogs because they speak in

Arf Arf. So they now have themselves an army

to face the Martians. We have wimpy Volunteering

I don't know why well he doesn't do anything

right unless it's for a hamburger He's volunteering

someone else That's true So the professor has

reverse engineered the gun and essentially just

makes people naked basically yeah, they take

out the first layer of clothing because keep

the underwear yeah well it it is essentially

it's a deep -pancing gun at this point basically

uh forecaster but at least he was kind enough

to give him his his coat the professor yeah that's

true um So Popeye shows up with the army and

we then see the old the sea hag again with her

vulture And of course, you know all of is so

worried and oh my gosh, it's the end of the world.

It's the Martians and olive oil I just I understand

the plot line of Popeye people I get it she's

supposed to be a damsel in distress or a really

big on warrior and I it's all well and good just

once I'd like to see olive oil step up and kick

some ass just once she doesn't have the body

mass to do so that's why she has Popeye he's

taking all her body mass I'm sure if she ate

her spinach Oh God do not even start because

now all's I can think of it If only Amy was here

between you and Amy with you know, but daddy

Oh God So I just always picture surely to fall

Whatever you see olive oil because she nailed

that role I tell you So we come face to face

with Popeye and the in the Alice army and see

hang in her Martian army And the sea egg says

Who are you good? Who are you good? Who are you

to stand against me ready aim fire? Come on that's

funny. That's funny right there as everyone is

in their underwear Even one of the well me. Oh,

that's Alice herself. I'll say why why is one

of them cross -dressing? And the sea egg doesn't

believe it Of course, you know, Popeye's old,

you know, his old saying, I am what I am. And

I love that they get the like the classic onomatopoeias

in here. Wham, sock, smack. Crack, bop, pow.

I love it. This next panel, I love the marshes

that are just goofing off. They're playing around

with toys. This is outrageous ridiculous impossible.

What are you dumb grunts waiting for begin plan

B? Then plan B is a giant robot yep because everything's

better with robots Yes, sometimes it just depends

no you're wrong. I'm right No, we're not taking

no Paul. Everything's better with robots. I actually

think a couple of Lagoons got killed. Look at

that. That's pretty vicious. Yeah, that is. That's

just not right. Yeah, the one that got stepped

on with the spikes underneath. Yeah, he's dead.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, like, yeah. Yeah, he's gone.

There's goons all over the place always hard

to find a good goon these days Unless you're

talking hockey well Not everyone can be Patrice

Bergeron All right, so the the robots didn't

start their attack on Popeye and we have a big

bang boom Bing bing bong as he gets smashed into

the ground And And then after this Pappy shows

up while Popeye is just you know Laying on the

beach in the sand there Pappy doesn't like to

see his his little boy get hurt. Let's just say

no obviously not he bonks the sea hag all the

way back to the sea and he pulls up Popeye and

they are going to smash them I don't know the

sea hag wants them to smash them but then they're

pretty much gonna ruin the day here yeah now

wait a minute Does only one foot of the robots

have spikes? Because the one that Pappy's lifting

has spikes, the one that Popeye lifts does not.

Huh. Good question. I did not - No, in the next

- Wait. There's - In the next panel - Look at

the panel where he says - Yeah, I see that. Where

Pappy says, I be what I be, poop deck Pappy,

pride of the pacif - the pacif - Okay. If you

go to the next page... Do you see the two robots

falling? Oh, I see. Some of them have spikes,

some of them do not. It depends if they are operated

by a Martian or not. So here's the thing, folks.

I see what happened now is Pappy has one, Popeye

has the other robot, so it's not... They're not

after the same robot. Like it isn't Pappy grabbing

the right leg and Popeye grabbing the left leg.

It's two different robots. And the ones that

are controlled by the Martians have the flat

feet. The robots who are, I guess, sentient themselves,

I guess, have the spikes. So we have a giant

krang in this panel. Krang. It's too bad the

big pink brain wasn't in here. That'd be awesome.

We have a bling and a blam and they're between

Popeye. Biddy bang boom. Yup. Biddy bang boom.

That's awesome. See, I love these automata pitas.

They're so simple and sweet and just fun. The

Marshkins are down for the count, Pappy. I says

they is. What's a Marshkin? I could just hear

them talking. It's so fun. And the Seahag is

upset as usual. And the Martians aren't going

to take it anymore. The Seahag to me in this

issue of the comic here reminds me of... Chief

Harold Lutz from Beverly Hills cop 2 He was the

chief that was always abusive to Rosewood and

Taggart always yelling at them and everything

else and this kind of Reminds me of that where

she's always yelling at them and calling them

worthless gutless gargoyles They don't even look

like gargoyles and where's Goliath when you really

need him? But anyway, so the Martians decide

to essentially turn on her and zap her I Love

it Guess it's a good thing. She didn't die They

they zappers they leave her clothesless and she's

now got a face The rest of the city or rest of

the townsman without Her vulture doesn't look

like the vultures. I don't where he went. Yeah

She's very vulnerable right now I kind of wish

they would have done a little bit more homaging

to the movie like at the end of this I wish her

head was in a jar next to Pierce Brosnan or something

Like seriously remember Popeye is still a young

readers comic so Let me Mars attacks was I mean

what was oh god when was that 95 96 oh my god

that movies almost 20 years old now I mean That

movie wasn't specifically for adults. I mean,

kids could watch it. I mean, I wouldn't, you

know, maybe 11, 12 year olds most likely. I don't

know. That movie doesn't, I remember that movie

fairly well. It doesn't seem like there were

too many adult -themed, there were some, but

I don't know. It could get kind of violent. Yeah.

I mean, that's why it's PG -13 though. True.

Mars Attacks Popeye, you had recommended this

to me saying it was really, really funny. It's

funny! Well, it is funny. It's not as good as

Mars Attacks Transformers. Well, I'm sorry. I've

got to say that Mars Attacks Transformers is

up there probably in my top ten comics of all

time. I'm not kidding. That one shot, every panel

was a gem. It was golden. Yeah, it's so much

fun. But this whole series, this Mars Attacks,

you know, the IDW universe, it was just so much

fun. It's simple, but it gives you laughs. It

gives you a fun adventure. I mean, you could

share it with people. That's why I like this

series, and I wish they would do it again. Mars

Attacks, the IDW universe is awesome. Yes. Yes

it is. Alright folks, I think that's gonna do

it for us. We're gonna take a quick break and

come back with probably Jeremy Fine and I talking

angel masks after this. Bye bye! Oh my god! Angel,

you're... cute! Fred, don't! Oh, but the little

hands! And the hair! Hey! You're fired. Alright

folks we are back in the first half of this Halloween

episode here inside the pull bag episode 113

here Nicole Hale and I talk about Mars attacks

Popeye which surprisingly Is not very Halloween

but this time around in part two of this episode

or in the second half of this episode I've got

Jeremy fine back. Hello, sir. Hello, sir And

we're going to be talking about IDW's Angel Masks.

At first, when I first saw this on Comixology,

I thought it was a trade. Well, it is a trade,

sort of, but I thought it was like a whole bunch

of random issues. It's actually, well, it is

a bunch of random stories, but it's basically

four stories with four different characters from

the Angel universe. The last time you and I talked

about Angel, we talked about Smile Time from

IDW, which is the comic adaptation of the season

five episode. And you know, most people that

know me, that know that I love Angel, one of

my favorite things is season five Smile Time,

and anytime Puppet Angel or Puppet Spike or whatever

are around, I'm like, oh, that's super cool.

So I saw this thing on, like I say, Comixology,

I'm like, oh, Puppet Angel with his sword holding

a pumpkin. That feels Halloween -y to me in that.

you know, that could work. And it somewhat is

their scary stories, but they're all little vignettes,

they're all little one shots. There is a bit

of continuity with the final story, even though

the final story I just don't care about, because

the art in it is just horrible. The Lindsay story,

it just, it doesn't even look like, at least

with at least telling stories with Puppet Angel

or Puppet Spike, you can use Boreanas' puppet

style, you can use Marcer's puppet style, but

some of these things, some of these other stories

that are not the puppet story, just the artist

totally screwed up the way Angel and some of

the other characters are supposed to look. Like,

I understand artist's interpretation and all

that, but Jesus Christ. Again, I was never a

huge fan of Angel. I did watch Smile Time. I

channel changed back then and I watched it again

on Netflix. As I read the comic now, I think

out of the four stories, I don't know if they're

trying to take something from Treehouse of Horror

from The Simpsons or Tales from the Crypt. I

love those anthology books, by the way, but this

to me, Other than the first story that makes

sense, if you're not familiar or remember the

characters, because unless you were a huge fan

in the 90s of Angel and Buffy and watching on

Netflix, I don't think anybody remembers any

of the other characters or what they were really

about, and that's gonna be a problem. Well, for

me, because, I mean, Angel, specifically Angel,

ran from 99 in 2004, so that was late 90s, early

2000s, and... You know, I actually just, I don't

know, two or three months ago, I spent three

weeks in one month and I watched all five seasons

again, just because I needed something to watch

and I wanted to rediscover the series again.

And it's one of those things where, for me, it's

not so much the characters, like I need reminding

about the characters. Three out of the four stories

here are good to me. They're good. They're not

excellent. They're, they're good. They're, they're

passable. Uh, like I said, the Lindsay story,

well, I liked the little bit of continuity and

how he meets Eve. The overall story of it was

just stupid as hell. I mean, I thought, you know,

angel masks. I saw the cover. Oh, it's puppet.

I thought we were going to get multiple puppet

stories. That's what I thought we were going

to get out of this. We get one puppet story out

of four, which is fine. It's not that big of

a deal. So diving in here, this first story is

Angel Puppet in Mystery Date. The creative team

on this story is, the writer is Jeff Marriott,

the pencils and inks were done by Steven Mooney,

and the colors by Rhonda Pattison. Like I said,

I like this story. It basically picks up right

after the events of Smile Time. Yeah. Because

the, because the way Smile Time ends is, is that,

you know, Nina and Angel are gonna go out to

breakfast. What are you gonna say? Yeah, um,

Jeff Mary, he has written several of the Angel

stories. You're right. This is, this kind of

answers the question, what was gonna happen as

they're going out to breakfast. But he's also

Been writing a couple of the air wolf comics

that I like I haven't gotten into the air wolf

stuff yet I want to but I just haven't I like

his writing and I like his sense of humor So

this kind of worked for me and we're gonna get

into it. This is actually out of all of them

This is gonna be my number one favorite story

Yeah You know, so we open with a monologue between

angel and and you know Nina outside the diner

here and some guy comes up and says oh you look

a little you know you look a little old to be

playing with toys sure you can't handle a real

man sweetheart and next thing you see is somebody

just punching him in the gut right away and obviously

it's it's Puppet Angel and I can so hear Boreanas

in my head you know what you got something as

little people buddy you know I can just so I

you know it's like stupid piece of crap. I can

just so hear that. Like he even says when she's

holding his hand in the next panel when they're

walking away, stupid tall people. I just love

the mannerisms and the facial expression and

the little lightning cloud over his head as representing

him being angry because I have not seen that

for about 30 years in comics. And that was usually

in Looney Tunes comics, so this was great. But

I also love how he, when they get into the restaurant,

how he can't even get onto the booth. He's just

like, he's climbing up and it's just like, and

you can even go like, just because a guy is a

little, oh, like vertically challenged, help

me out here. Like he's trying to, you can almost

see, like this should have been a motion comic

for him to get up on that booth. If they, I know

they'll never do this because I know the show

is way past, you know, I mean we're 11 years

after the show has ended. So I know they'll never

go back and do a short or anything else. But

if they can get Nina back and Puppet Angel back

and adapt this, this story would be awesome to

see adapted in here. Boreanaz and see the actress

who played Nina. As far as Nina's design in this,

I don't mind it. somewhat looks like her for

the most part I remember in the show she was

a little bit more flat -chested than she is in

here but I'm not complaining I think overall

her look is fine it's very similar to the actress

that was on the show so they're all talk you

know they're they're sitting there talking about

being able to get out and you know talking about

you know, she's saying that she promises she

won't go all wolf girl and and tearing out his

stuffing again and The waitress comes up and

You know, they order they essentially order the

same thing because he's a vampire. She's a wolf

girl this this actually no, there was there was

something else I really do love is that he didn't

want to go to a Chinese place I think because

His puppet hands couldn't maneuver the chopsticks.

Yeah. I thought that was I mean, it's clever.

And yeah, they they do kind of she orders a hamburger

like rare and and she and bold. It's like rare.

And yeah, he's like, yeah, same for me, but with

fries and a chocolate shake. And she's like,

but I want a green salad and iced tea. So it's

kind of like to try to order the same thing.

But it almost feels like something of a Howard

Hawks movie. And as for The woman is she's supposed

to be dressed as a devil or she is a devil? No,

she's a lizard person because the point of this

diner is They don't ask a lot of questions it's

basically think of it as Caritas but in a diner

sense and there's no lawn essentially is what

the way that I see this at this point. Oh, okay

So So in this process Angel says salad sounds

good not as good as blood which they don't serve

here But it's got to be finger foods for another

couple of days so as I said this story takes

place after the events of smile time and in the

end of smile time they said that or Fred said

or somebody said to Angel that he told Wesley

or whomever it was or maybe told Nina that you

know the the puppet thing will wear off in a

few days so this pretty much picks up like the

night that it like in the early morning hours

of that night that he was at the puppet studio

that he that he was at at the smile time studios

so you know absolutely Love the continuity bits

here. Again, the art's great. The colors, it's

a diner. I mean, you know, the diner scene isn't

really like, I mean, it's got a 50s style black

and white checkerboard and red benches in the

booths, so. But the characters, the characters

look great. I do love how... Nina, of course,

goes into the bathroom because she's like, nature

calls and then she goes, no, not that way. Just

the ladies room. Yeah, because we, you know,

she's going to be wolfing out or at least that's

what Angel thinks. Angel, of course, is making

the best out of this. Again, everything is like

stupid menu, stupid straw because she's got the

puppet hands. The fact that he's a puppet, he

can't maneuver anything. So I love how we get

this moment where She comes out of the bathroom

as a wolf. Angel thinks that Nina has - Well,

no, that's not necessarily true. A wolf comes

into the diner. Like, we don't see where the

- like, he assumes it's Nina. But in that panel,

we don't see if the - the wolf came out of the

bathroom because - and, yeah, so - but the whole

thing with the drinks, for a second, that - does

not look like an iced tea or a chocolate shake.

The one on the right there that's supposed to

be the chocolate shake, it looks like quicksand.

Or olfetea. It's about drinking the same thing,

I guess. So the wolf comes in and he just assumes

that it's Nina. And a big fight ensues, the diner

window gets smashed, and they get outside. And

he's like, settle down, let's not make things

worse than they have to be. Haven't you figured

out yet, vampire? I am not who you think I am.

And this thing morphs into something else, and

actually morphs into Angel himself. And I love

the panel where Angel says no. I love the little

scratches on his face and the stuffing coming

out of that panel is amazing. When I first heard

about this comic, I was like, as long as they

get Puppet Angel correct on the art, I'll be

happy. And they really, really do. I want to

reiterate what we've discussed with Smile Time.

Mm -hmm a few months ago. I Appreciate that.

They're trying to go back and make this into

Not only a seven page short story, but they're

making this into Trying to almost bring back

Angel or this is it's IDW. So it's an installer

tried its finest, right? I'm going to say The

same thing that you're gonna say I think a lot

of great minds are gonna think alike on this.

There was no reason why There should have not

have been four puppet angel stories. I love how

Angel is still bitter being a puppet. I love

how Angel is saying stupid this and stupid that

because he can't maneuver the puppet hands. It

goes back to, I don't remember what we discussed

with the smile time episode because I just -

It's been a while. Yeah, I don't like listening

to the sound of my own voice on the podcast,

but it almost goes back to Child's Play where

Charles Lee Ray is Chucky. And Chucky complains

that he can't do much because he's in a doll

body. So, you know, eventually he'll become anatomically

correct because that's what the writers will

finally decide to do with him because it's like

five sequels later. But Chucky raises points.

He's small. There's not much he can do with the

hands. And I like that the story is thinking

outside the box, but you just don't want to depend

on that aspect. So now you have Nina, of course,

which is the werewolf, and then you have the

shapeshifting demon. And this is something that

I was almost worried about because, again, I'm

DC, I'm thinking Clayface, or I'm thinking the

T -1000 from Terminator 2. But on the other hand,

this is a great story where the shapeshifter

pretends like angels turn back into human. and

and you know it does it does give the hints of

course where he does not angel things because

he's not really studying what the real angel

was about Nina catches on and he's starting like

you know take me to Wolfman hard or yeah she's

she catches on pretty quickly and simply because

you know he says you know in a panel down the

down the line here he says Barlish demon destructive,

but not really dangerous I guess maybe the stress

of the fight caused me to change back sooner

than I calculated Fred you mean Nina says huh

sooner than Fred calculated whatever Who are

you? What do you think? What do you think? I'm

angel angel wouldn't have left the diner without

paying for our drinks at least he would have

left the tip and he'd know who fred is so nina

figures it out pretty damn fast and the coolest

thing is after she figures it out we cut back

to the alley yeah and i wish i wish there was

a well there there is a close -up but i wish

there was a more like as i'm looking at this

on comixology in the guided view i wish there

was a close -up of the actual dumpster scene

here stupid wheel His nose has come off again,

like Burt from Sesame Street. But the thing is,

is that he's able to speak perfect English with

his nose off. It's not like, stupid wheel, you

know, like that. It still works and everything.

Well, I think, I think the thing with the writing

here is with the stupid wheel is that because

this is a comic and not David Borean is actually

saying the line, because he does say that in

the smile time episode, he says, Well, my nose

comes off. You know, I mean, he actually does

do that kind of voice, but here in the comic,

it wouldn't work. So it's nice to show that his

nose came off again, but I don't think the writing

would have effectively contributed to us realizing

that, oh, hey, he's doing the voice again, because

like you said, it's not like it's a motion comic

with voiceover behind it. So which would have

been awesome if they had done that. I will say

this much. I never get tired of when the puppets

lose their nose because it's a rotten egg, and

it's clean. I mean, it's a smart... The only

thing I was still curious about, again, because

I have forgotten about this, he is able to maneuver

the dumpster even though he's a puppet. I forgot.

Does he still kind of have his supernatural powers

or...? He never lost them. He never lost them

even as a puppet. Okay. You got to remember.

Okay, so... when you remember the scene when

you know when you know he he's got the sword

on his shoulder and he's like you know oh no

it's you know your time's up or it's you know

it's time to cancel you or whatever else and

he starts fighting and fighting and fighting

and smile time and and he's I think he punches

the lead puppet I forget what the lead evil puppets

name is yeah but he punches him and the puppet

punches him back and He's like, Oh, I see you

got a little demon in you. And then his, his

whole face changes to vampire money. He's like,

no, I've got a lot of demons. So he never lost

the fact that he was a vampire. Um, so that's

why he can move the dumpster because he still

has his vampire strength. Gotcha. Okay. So, yeah.

So he's running down an alley like Batman, making

sure the damsel is okay. I mean, I swear to God,

you put a blue cape on him or give him a bat

ear, it's just like a Batman thing. It's awesome.

I still love the facial expressions. You know,

The Muppets came back this fall. I know there

was a show that sadly bombed on Fox and has ashamed

Greg the bunny. But I don't know what it is.

There's always something about when puppets would

written the right way and perform the right way

and voice the right way and interacting with

humans. I think it works for all ages. And there's

something about if even if this was a 10 minute

special with the original cast just to put on

YouTube or whatever the case may be, I would

I would dig it. Whether I'd be a fan of angel

or not. I just love how this puppet is interacting

with the humans and interacting with other objects

and you can tell that it's not like a cartoony

Angel it just I can see it in the eyes and the

eyebrows that move up and down and especially

When he's looking for Nina the way the hair is

moving in the wind. It's awesome Yeah, absolutely

Absolutely so Angel runs after Nina and he realizes

he's too late and he's like Nina nuts and he's

like, oh this should do he picks up a giant piece

of glass and goes to find her and Does find her

and You know the fight more of the fight ensues

and angels like did you really think I wouldn't

figure it out? Angel what's going on? Greckle's

a shape -shifting demon who used to be in Wolfram

and Hart's client, but he's also a mass murderer

who I saw I cut him loose when I reviewed the

client list. Since then, his businesses have

been going downhill and he's in some legal trouble.

I'm guessing he wanted to get back into Wolfram

and Hart disguised as me so he could dedicate

the firm to solving his problems. Bad news, Greckle.

it ain't happening and like I said more of the

fight actually Nina throws a punch and we see

Greco's full form he kind of looks like one of

the demons from the hell dimension where angel

had to go get the name for Jasmine in the end

of season four and they said I was no good at

this client relations thing I can We get exposition

and when angel tells not only Nina But I guess

you know if if if Greco was on the show again

is stated I Never heard of this character, but

no this is a character To this I mean it it's

specific to this story. It's it wasn't in the

she they're just saying that He was not probably

an unseen character that you know when angel

went through and like remember when he cut Hensley

The the necromancer. Yes that kind of helped

spike get whatever the hell spike you know what

so what it's saying is is that Angel went through

the client list and cut a whole bunch of people

because of what they did and because Greco was

a mass murderer He was one of the ones he cut

never actually saw him in the actual television

show. So he's a character that they are not necessarily

expanding on here, but they're introducing you

to him and they're giving you a reason, they're

giving you exposition as to why he is here and

why he is coming after Angel and, I almost said

Angel and Fred, but Angel and Nina. Makes sense.

I mean, it's an interesting character. I mean,

again. I go back to Clayface, I go back to the

T -1000. The shape -shifting, if done right,

I should even say Mystique from X -Men, the shape

-shifting character never gets tiring if done

correctly, if there's a point to put the character

in the story. Here, even though it's a seven

-minute, you know, whatever the case may be,

because it took me about seven to ten minutes

to read through all this, because that's what

it felt like. um it works even if this was a

22 minute or 44 minute episode it still would

work because at least there's a purpose to put

a shape -shifting character with high stakes

the only problem is he's sloppy because he really

didn't do too much research on what angels mannerisms

or personalities yeah that's which always sucks

yeah they every shapeshifter does that t -1000

clay face mystique it's like they can copy the

voice and some mannerisms but they don't know

every single nook and cranny and that's when

it gets like but the good thing is we didn't

get the they both look alike no shoot him no

shoot him we didn't get that you know trope yeah

so i i give i give kudos to that i do love the

changing of when greco he starts to like the

top of his head like becomes bubbly and we get

like it looks like teeth that are forming top

of his head And then, yeah, he turns into this,

I guess, lizard creature thing. Okay, yeah. Well,

yeah, that's what I was saying. It's basically

something like what the guys from the dimension

thing in... In season the end of season four

was Which is pretty cool. I do love the facial

expression though when he gets stabbed It's just

like he's almost like shrugging his shoulders

and going like can't blame the guy for trying

wah -wah Yeah, it's like Nina just she's not

even she doesn't even turn to a werewolf I figured

she would get angry to turn to a werewolf which

to make sense But no apparently she just smacks

him in the face and then he she blinds him He

tries to claw at her. Angel, of course, had gotten

like this wooden spike to shove through his heart.

And that was pretty. And then Puppet Angel was

just standing on the back of this dead of the

dead Greco. And it's just like, OK, let's let's

wrap things up like an 80s, you know, action

primetime show. It's like. You sure, you know,

you sure know how to show a monster girl a good

time. Well, you know, let's see. That's the thing

is like we needed something because their story

in smile time didn't quite It left it open for

interpretation and between smile time and the

finale not fade away There wasn't like we didn't

see Nina. Oh, we saw her We didn't see her a

whole bunch like the whole thing and not fade

away, which is the series finale of angels season

angel overall You know, they, we open up and

they're in bed together and we hadn't really

seen her too much since the whole breakfast thing

at the end of, of smile time. So, you know, I

liked the fact that she didn't turn into the

werewolf girl. Cause we already saw it like the

whole, like we know at this point, because remember

this is taking place in a strict linear timeline

in our, this is the same day. So she had already

turned into a werewolf girl earlier and. Rip

the stuffing out of him so if you're if you watch

smile time and then read this This is a direct

continuation of the smile time story except it

has nothing to do with demon puppets taking over

children's television network But it's one of

those things where I thought this was a nice

little end to the story Before we eventually

see her in the season finale of the series finale

of not fade away Overall, I liked mystery date.

I thought it was kind of cool I'm gonna give,

overall, I'm gonna give it a four and a half

out of five. I really enjoyed it. I'm giving

this one a solid five. It gets a solid five for

me for several reasons, as I said. I love the

humor with them at the diner. It also reminded

me again of that two tales in the crypt comic

book stories where a vampire and werewolf were

dating, but the thing was... is that there wasn't

going to be a full moon for a few weeks, and

he was able to find ways to suppress his appetite

for blood, and they were going to go out to a

cabin in the mountains, and one was going to

try to feast on the other, but they fell in love

with each other. I love that. This is a great

story. It's well drawn. It's got great dialogue.

It's got great characteristics with the facial

expressions. Greco's death is just comical it's

got that great ending great great great five.

Yeah the end The second story is Illyria in unacceptable

losses. This is by Scott Tipton and David Messina

So we open up and Illyria and Wes are training

So this this takes place right after they shot

her with the cannon thing to keep her from exploding

to contain her power so she's pretty much a Deep

-powered demon at this point and we open with

spike an angel. Okay, the way I kind of view

this is kind of like they're in Illyria and Wes

are in the interrogation room, even though it's

more of a dojo thing and then And then Wes, or

not Wes, Angel and Spike are in the viewing room

of the interrogation room. And Spike's character

looks somewhat like James Marster's here. Angel's

really does not look like anything like David

Borean's. I mean, I know it's the style of the

artist and all that, but it just doesn't look

right. I don't know. This to me was fan fiction.

Again, if you're not a fan of the characters,

I don't know much about the characters. This

was a short one, but there's the power demon

like the idea to do research on demonology, which

is a huge thing because again, there seem to

be tons of movies right now about it and with

Constantine. getting canceled and trying to find

its way on CW, it's understandable. It's never

going to get on the CW. There's too many other

shows there now at this point. Oh, you have no

idea what I'm petitioning, my friend. But no,

don't even try. But have it go to Netflix or

Amazon or somewhere else. Fine. I don't care.

But my point being is that if you're going to

discuss immunology and that's fine, it works.

But I think the problem I'm having there's too

much exposition. I'm not saying that's a bad

thing, but if you have it where it's supposed

to be an action comic and you throw in too much

of exposition and it's only a few pages, because

I have the Comixology as well, it doesn't work.

It kind of goes from demon dogs and then that's

it. Yeah, it goes... Okay, so we'll start with

the demon dog. So basically what happens here,

folks, is that... Illyria, Angel has a job for

her. She has to go to Dickerson Waters Publishing

to collect a debt that this guy owes Wolfram

and Hart. And Angel doesn't want Wes finding

out that he's sending her on this mission because

Wes is still under the impression that, hey,

this, you know, Fred could come back and whatever

else. And he kind of has feelings for Illyria,

Fred, whatever. So. She goes to this place. She

fights the demon dogs, which I love that full

-on splash panel of her going up against them,

the blood red with them in the black silhouette.

That's an awesome image. That's just great. Oh,

you need the frame, definitely. Yeah, absolutely.

So she goes up against the demon dogs and wins.

We go back to Wesley. He's doing some internal

monologue here, and he's going through these

books that Angel asked him to go to the library

and look up. And he then calls back to Wolfram

Hart and talks to Harmony. Eh. Doesn't quite

look like Mercedes McNabb, but okay. She's only

in one panel anyway. She basically tells him

that, oh yeah, Alleria's not here, and he's like,

oh, where is she? And we finally get to Dickerson

Waters, or Walters, whatever, and apparently

this guy's thing is... He's some sort of publisher.

I guess he's supposed to be a blonde evil Hugh

Hefner or whatever. I don't know and He basically

captures the souls of people that he is photographed

over the years He puts Illyria in this weird,

you know, he says are you joining that suite?

It's called a blade barrier those cuts You're

no doubt feeling are the dozens of blades extruding

from the inside are revolving around you I like

that effect, it's a nice effect, but he basically

shows off his weakness. Right away, he's like,

oh yeah. He's like, of course, I could never

hold a creature as magnificent and powerful as

you for long by myself. Luckily for me, I have

help. And he shows the little jewel thing that's

on his chest there. I hate it when villains just

give away their tails right away. It's like,

oh my god. You know, we could have had My name

is zero from dog McGonagall. I've seen too many

Bond movies than to give away the plot Just you

know before the movies over. Yeah, you know why?

Villains are doing this in the 21st century I

don't know why they feel that that they're arrogant

that they have to explain everything Especially

if they die off in five minutes because then

the plan if it takes effect, I would like to

see higher stakes Yeah, I mean yeah, they It's

just super but I like the Illyria story for seeing

Illyria and Wes and all that I love the art on

Illyria I think she out of all of the angel characters

in this story is the one they really kind of

got right even though some of the shadow stuff

with her with the way that they show her body

a few times the way her outfit looks and Whatever

so Wes eventually gets there and it's like Yeah,

I'm afraid business hours are over bang and he

basically shoots the little soul thing and all

the souls come out and Elyria gets free and she's

just ready to destroy this guy So basically that's

what happens She you know is about to rip out

his thorax, and I think Wesley says to me about

now the matter of our bill We then go back to

Wolfram and Hart and we get, here is the reconvince

we are due. So it is, thank you. Is that a signature?

I believe it started as one. His writing became

more emphatic as I crushed his esophagus. Oh

boy, Illyria walks out and Wes is just looking

like he's ready to kill somebody. He asks her,

Lyria, you're limping, are you alright? I'm fine,

I wish to be alone. And this is where he attacks

Angel for sending her out there, and this is

Wesley's emotions coming through with him wanting

it to still be Fred. And the story ends on, you

know, and then when I get up and come back here,

there she is. There she is. And it ends on just

a whole thing of... in the image of Elyria who

she's not she has Elyria's hair but the face

is more Fred's face than Elyria because if you

look at Elyria in the various panels in this

story she is more pronounced when you know what

I mean and by the end of it it's like hey oh

there's Fred because Wesley is still obviously

mourning over her. The third story deals with

Cordelia Chase. Isn't she a higher being now

or didn't she die again? Anyway, this story takes

place right after Doyle died and passed the visions

to Cordelia in season one of Angel. So this one

this is gonna be pretty quick folks cuz well

I love the art and the way that it's shown and

how we see the old office building and angels

little basement there thing and As much as I

love Cordelia, I hate the overall aesthetic of

the art And the story itself is just too silly

it reminds me of Batman, Arkham, A Serious House,

and Serious Earth, that, you know, that artwork.

Yeah. I do want to ask you, because I think you

had brought up on a few podcasts about a Batman

comic that you read that disturbed you. I'm pretty

sure it has to be... Serious house on sir. It's

the only one I can think of because no this this

one was I know what you're talking about here

This was a full -on collection. This was like

almost a 600 page thing. Oh, okay, but it was

it was it it always had The Batman thing I was

talking about always had Black borders around

the pages and the rest of the art was really

dark, but this was like I think it might have

been I don't even know, I don't even know, whatever,

we're not talking about Batman. But anyway, Angel,

Cordelia, basically Clayface comes to kill Angel,

or some thing that looks like weird Clayface

thing, and attacks Cordelia, she runs downstairs,

Angel's not there, she gets the weapons. She

goes to fend this thing off. The one thing about

the art I will say that I do like is, while they

didn't really capture Charisma Carpenters, image

too well i do like the image where she says does

it look like i'm running i do kind of like that

that does kind of remind me of cory um she does

end up running and apparently this thing can

track her by her smell uh again i wish the cordelia

story was better like if they had taken like

any other aspect other than angels season one

to tell a cordelia story here i just don't Don't

even care for it. I Again, I'm gonna say is artwork.

Yes, but the story the dialogue is imagery Unless

again, you know the characters It's just a girl

running from a demon in the sewers and then at

the end I mean, I know the character the writing

is perfect the writing gets her her character

down and all that stuff and I understand where

you're coming from but Like, it just doesn't

feel like a, I don't know, it just doesn't feel

like the right kind of story for this. Again,

like we said earlier, why couldn't there have

just been four puppet angel stories? Well, at

the end she ends up looking fantastic in a red

dress. Yep. So I guess that's the character,

or whatever the case may be. So we forgot to

give ratings for Illyria. I think Illyria. I'll

give a three out of five I enjoyed it, but it

still had a few flaws. What about you for Illyria?

I have to go I'm gonna okay Split right down

the middle. I think that's fair I there is the

image with the silhouette with her fighting the

demon dogs The souls being released from the

egg the souls being you know They were captured

in the egg, but there's too much exposition and

again a villain making a mistake 20 years ago

about giving away the plot before he actually...

And it just ends, where whether it will or won't

be a cliffhanger, depending on how well this

book will sell, because I don't know what...

Well, this one's old. I mean, Angel Masks, people,

this is not a new book. This is a few years ago,

because this is actually... If you look at the

cover, it's the old IDW logo. So this came out

a while ago. What about the Cordelia story? What

are you going to write that? The Cordelia story

for the artwork alone, and I guess for some of

the dialogue imagery, which is not terrible for

her running from this demon. I'm gonna be fair.

Even though I'm not a huge fan, I'm still going

to be fair and give it at least a three. And

I guess the ending with her being snarky, I guess

that's supposed to be the character? Well, yeah,

that, see, like I said, this takes place between,

like, after season one. Not, not after. It takes

place during season one of Angel. Yeah, this...

This issue, this little trade here came out in

2006. So this is pretty old at this point. Um,

but the character itself, yeah, that, that is

pretty much the character in the early seasons.

This is cause after Buffy ended her whole, after

high school, her whole thing was, Hey, I want

to be an actress. So I'm going to go to LA and

be an actress. And that's how she kind of opened

up into the show with Angel. And then she became,

you know, Doyle died and pastor his visions.

So the character is like for me the characterization

of Courtney is fine in this the writing is fine.

It's just the art overall and I Because of the

art there's only like two frames out of the entire

story that I actually enjoy I get to give this

two and a half out of five I just the writing

is good for her character, but the story in itself

is just So the final story we have Lindsay McDonald

played by God what's his Christian Kane Lindsay

McDonald in Pencils and Paper Clips. This is

written by James Patrick. Art by Sean Murphy

and Rico Renzi. This is the worst story of the

four. What makes you say that? Because there's

really... I couldn't follow this. I thought this

was like Demonology meets Office Space. It is

kind of. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much just

cubicles and... bureaucrats and demons getting

pissed off asking for pencils or wanting pencils

and See, I don't even like the one thing I do

know where this this this story solely sets up

how Lindsay met Eve now You don't probably remember

Eve, but Eve was the first senior partner Liaison

in season 5 of angel when they moved into Wolfram

and Hart, Eve was the one that was there the

whole time until episode 100 when Lindsay came

back and all that stuff happened. And then after

that it was Adam Baldwin as Hamilton. So this

story essentially happens after Lindsay basically

failed Wolfram and Hart, but before episode 100

of the show. So the only thing this really serves

is to introduce Lindsay to Eve. The rest of it

like the as much as I like Sean Murphy I'm sorry

the guy should stick to covers and not interiors

because This guy that's supposed to be Lindsay

or Lenny or whatever else or really it's supposed

to be Lindsay McDonald from the show looks nothing

like Christian Kane whatsoever and It's just

kind of lame like the best part of it is when

he meets Eve and goes through the whole thing

with her And we get the little exposition with

them, you know, the interactions with them. And

thankfully this one isn't that long because it

just doesn't... I just had no interest. There

was nothing... There's not one thing that held

it other than the fact that you have writers

that have written for better stuff than this.

It just was a great story. It was just, it wasn't

even bizarre for the sake of being bizarre. It

was just, I guess it's, again, if it was a seven

-minute cartoon or a seven -minute whatever,

it would probably work, but... If you have comics

ology like we do you can highlight the writers

and you can as I'm going through right now Everything

else they've worked on from Astro Boy the DC

to other angel comics with Doctor Who the Star

Trek Friday W Yeah, this final story. I don't

even know should we go through it or how do you

want to do this one? That is the Lindsay story

was the final story. We just went through right

I mean like any any I mean but no, there's nothing

like if it had been like a Lindsay and Lila story

or if it had been anything like I don't mind

the fact that it was the whole point of the story

was how he met Eve I don't mind that fact at

all but the rest of the story is just it's just

not good it's it like you said it's demonology

meets office space and it's like you know what

the PC load letter what the fuck does that mean

it's like you know just no um other than the

fact that he met eve here i gotta give this a

one out of five i'll give it like one out of

five as well because i guess there's just like

it tries i don't even think it tries i i just

don't um overall i will give masks a For a collection

of angel stories, I'll give it a two and a half

out of five the only reason why even gets two

and a half is because It has the puppet angel

story in it if it didn't have the puppet angel

story in it We wouldn't even be reviewing it

in the first place What about you overall for

the entire thing I'm actually surprisingly gonna

go three and a half because if I'm averaging

it out as correctly and I'm probably not The

Angel Story, I gave a five. As for the second

one, I gave a two and a half. The third one,

I believe I gave a three. And this one, I gave

a one and a half. In fairness, if there were

ever, I understand how old this comic book was,

but if there were sequels, maybe for the second

or third one, I would love to see a Puppet Angel

collection or anthology or just something, even

just like a one -time thing. I know they would

never do an annual thing and that's a mistake,

but I think the real money would come from Puppet

Angel. There's just something about his snarkiness

and how he has to deal with life as a puppet.

Again, if the Muppets were able to come back

this year, I think Puppet Angel could come back

as well. I do know, and maybe I should have done

this instead of having the Mars Attacks thing,

even though I love doing that with Nicole, I

do know that there is a... There is something

on comics ology called Spike shadow puppets collects

the entire spike shadow puppets many series plus

bonus material angel once put a stop to an evil

children show but not before being turned into

a puppet During his fight now fresh out of the

asylum. It's spikes turn writer Brian Lynch and

artist Franco or or or The creative force behind

the all -new Angel After the Fall series are

reunited in this collection that sees Spike and

Lorne heading off to Japan to stop the latest

Japanese kids' show, Smile Time. Will they become

puppetized themselves and along the way find

themselves in a fight with hundreds of ninja

puppets? Reuniting with fellow asylum inmates

and being extreme odds with one another? We're

not telling, but um, yeah. Featuring Cover Gallery

by Aruru and David Messina and annotations by

Lynch. This came out just three years ago in

2012. The print release was 2008. So maybe I

should have, we should have done this and the

angel masks. I'll probably save Spike Shadow

Puppets for next Halloween most likely. But yeah,

I mean overall it was Angel mask it was okay

Like I said, and we've said already and I'm sure

people are trying to hear him say this in the

last 50 minutes of this episode It should have

been for puppet angel stories or it should have

been just one long story of puppet angel and

Nina and whatever I Go back to what I said to

before kids with So many properties being mass

-produced and mass -marketed because I'm not

saying everyone is run out of ideas. There's

steampunk, there's demonology, there's witchcraft.

I understand all that. You can get bombarded,

but if you have the right writers and the right

artists, believe me, there's one type of genre

and one type of, I guess... demonology and paranormal

just meant for you. I enjoy demonology. I've

always found it to be fascinating. I find the

demons fascinating, but you have to find the

right story. Vampires, I've been through why

I'm not a fan of vampires or werewolves, but

I think there's hope. And I think that, you know

what? I'll say it a million times more. I'll

dive back into this if there's ever gonna be

something regarding Angel. The writing's not

terrible, I'll give it that. It's definitely

not a waste of your time. Alright folks, I'll

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This is the first time I've done a Halloween

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We're going to be doing Transformers Last Stand

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audio clips that Neil Ross gave to me for this

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