The Pull Bag
DC’s First Masters of the Universe Digital Series

About this Episode
Welcome to... The Pull Bag. Join us as we dig
out our latest comics and discuss them with a
rotating panel of the GCRN crew. So sit back
and enjoy this week's Pull Bag. Hello and welcome
to the pull bag. This is episode 112 I am your
host TfG and Mike and today we head back to Eternia
and of course joining me this time around is
Skeletor They really should have hired you for
those Honda commercials, dude. Yeah, maybe they
should Adas Baron, how the hell are you? Not
too bad on this Fall Eve. Yes. Well, we are...
nine days away from Halloween, so... I'm going
so fast. Yeah, pretty much. So we are going to
dive back into the world of DC's Masters of the
Universe, and we're not going to get to Eternity
War just yet. How much of Eternity War have you
read at this point? Is it Maternity War? No.
Event Eternity War. Wow. How much of it have
you read so far? I think the first two issues?
Oh my god. They've already released up to number
ten now. I have my work cut out for me. Yes,
you do. So the last episode that we did was the
final of the 2013 series, issues 13 to 19, which
is the Blood of Grayskull storyline, which was,
oh my God, nearly nine months ago. Oh, that was
a while ago. Yeah, it was January. I was such
a young man back then. uh... it was january of
this year of twenty fifteen here's the thing
folks before we dive into a journey war in the
upcoming months and whatever how long it lands
they have no idea how long that that series is
going to last i mean the twenty thirteen series
lasted nineteen issues and before that the series
leading up to that and attorney war the first
twenty twelve series one six issues The original
Masters of the Universe digital series was only
eight issues, so I'm hoping Eternity War will
go on for at least 25 or 30 issues, but who knows?
It's DC after all, and it's Mattel, and if, you
know... We have a new toy out. Quick, add them
to the cell. Yes. Something like that. So I thought
it would be nice to... To go back to the beginning
and to DC's first eight -issue mini digital series
and review those, and these are smaller, they're
only 20 -page issues, so they're half the size
of a normal book, and I figured we could just
do it all in one lump. Before I suggested this
to you, had you ever read this? Actually, I had.
I did when they first came out. Was that two
or three years ago? Something like that. I know
I downloaded them off of Comixology, but I wasn't
sure if I read everything. Well, it turns out
I did, and I was just revisiting these after
God knows how long. Yeah, see, for me, I had
never read these before. I started out with,
yeah, these came out June 23rd, 2012, was issue
number one. I had started with the ongoing. and
then I went back to the Six Issue mini -series,
the 2012 Six Issue mini -series, and then I had
gone and done the Origins things with Kevin on
here, and then we jumped into the 2013 mini -series,
and that was my introduction to DC's Motu stuff,
and I knew of this series because Kyle Higgins,
one of my favorite writers, wrote at least two
or three of these things, so I knew of the series.
I just never really got around to getting into
it. I think I had read the the six potter when
went back and read this mmm, okay Yeah, what
I'm finding now is I wasn't sure But DC really
set themselves up because It's pretty much a
straightforward continuity from this all the
way to what we're doing in it in eternity war
now. Yes I didn't realize that that was going
to be the click People I only really expect continuity
like actual good continuity based stories out
of IDW. I'm sorry DC You and your continuities
are not exactly my cup of tea but I think going
back and reading this and starting this here
before we get into attorney war is a good thing
and I Just can't wait to get into it. So let's
dive in with issue number one. I'm terrible diving.
I kind of belly flop every time I go 30 and I
don't know how to dive. So this one is all about
Sir Laser Lot. Yes, Sir Laser Lot. Wasn't he
a toy guru toy that had to be, oh no, that's
right. That's, well duh, that's why John's is
writing this. Wow. Now I'm gonna give you some
background on him, which I think helps the character.
Okay, because I know you know, there are different
factions of Masters fans We're all mini comics
or all cartoons some of them in between or some
2000x. I'm the type that If there's a new toy
out and he's not on the cartoon and I know nothing
about him I have nothing to gravitate towards
and then once they're on the show. Oh, okay.
I have some sort of connection now I'm more invested
in this figure which when I had that 2012 12th
30th anniversary such a figure subscription and
yeah, I sold him off because he was kind of boring
This comic gives them a little bit of a Yeah,
I like them a little more even though I've only
seen him in this Yeah, I've only seen him in
this and the toy obviously as well For the creative
team on this, we have Jeff Johns on writing,
we have Howard Porter on pencils, we have John
Livesey on inks, and Cary Strachan on colors.
I'm not a Johns fan at all. I have actively avoided
half of his comic stuff. One of the things, and
one of the reasons why I avoid a lot of the stuff
is because he's the guy that wants DC to shove
Hell Jordan down our throats. And I grew up with
Jon Stewart and Kyle Rayner and all that kind
of stuff on Justice League and Justice League
Unlimited and Kill a Wog and all that. I don't,
unless it's the DC animated universe movies like
First Flight, Green Lantern First Flight, or
Emerald Night, I could give two shits less about
Hell friggin' Jordan. Yeah, he's he's not the
most interesting I'll definitely take a John
Stewart over hell So that's the creative team
The story opens with two boys running from the
Beast Men I mean there's more than just one Apparently
and apparently these Beast Men are actually intelligent
unlike the one Especially the first page here.
I feel like it's harkening back to his beastman's
origin when I forget a hundred percent what the
origin was on the back of the card But I think
it had or is it had something to do with a legion
of beastmen See I remember these types of characters
from the cartoon, but they were called something
else they were The ones with the horns They were
always in shadow there that they hated the light
it was kind of like oh god. What the hell's their
damn name? None none none necro beasts They were
in the 2002 cartoon I think yeah, and I think
they made the oversized figures for them that
came with a club and everything yeah Yeah, that's
what it is shadow beast. Thank you There you
go these remind me of them a lot What I kind
of and I'll say this as we go along through each
of these issues what I kind of don't like about
this series is that there is Continuity and there
isn't continuity like yeah, I mean this story
itself is a standalone. There's nothing There
might be something closer to the end, like with
the whole continuity with Sir Laserlight and
the skull and all that at the very end of the
issue, but these two brothers? Yeah, we don't
know who they are. I have no clue who they are.
Like, I was expecting, like, something like,
this is Duncan and Rendor as kids, because later
on in, I think, issue five or... I don't know.
One of them we get a randor story that's based
on you know how he was prince and how he became
king and all that So we'll talk about that in
a little bit, but like these two kids. I'm like
what the hell are these guys? Seriously So we
go through here the beasts are chasing these
kids and we come upon a guy Who has no helmet
who has a glowing red chest? The red lanterns
is he a stone protector is he one of those? Maybe
it's maybe it's sir Patrick Stewart one of the
stone cutters from the Simpsons Boy so we see
this knight as as the brothers call him and he
says he's not a knight and he essentially Do
love the line where he says stay back and the
guys are like us or them you I will say Howard
Porter's art and the coloring here is great The
shadow is done with the beasts and with with
how yeah the glow and all that. That's awesome
I noticed that especially the first shot that
we get of him where it seems like His forearms
and his biceps are nothing but veins. It harkens
back to so much 90s artwork It's almost sickening.
Yeah. Kind of reminds me of when the Hulk tears
his clothing a little bit. Or maybe he's just
got some spider webs on his arm. Yeah, it's weird.
Something like that. Yeah, it is very weird.
So this quote unquote night saves these kids
and we find out that they, you know, their village
burned to the ground. And he does some vicious
stuff to these shadow beasts. Oh my god. I love
how this entire sequence has been staged Yeah,
very almost, you know, he's got a a lightsaber
nightstick almost but it's a mace Yeah a lightsaber
mace. Yeah Star Wars episode 8 are you listening?
Like the wind do Oh god. Oh boy. So, they tell
him that, you know, their village was burned
after King Grayskull's death, and that their
family burned as well, and they have no home.
They call him a knight, but he's not a knight,
and he takes them back to his... cave? Room?
Something inside a tree? Don't ever remember
caves having doors like this I Don't know I'm
not nitpicking here folks. I'm just saying it's
a Shire door Yeah Well if you go back a couple
of pages to where Where you ask you know go home
when we can if you look at the upper right hand
corner does something look familiar at all to
you Yeah, mm -hmm. It's car from the jungle book.
Well, I'm Especially the way it's resting on
that stick. Yeah, it looks like one of the snakemen
staffs Snakemen staffs or it could be well we
kind of Figured out what what the Havoc staff
was originally made for so that that's out But
yeah, I know it does look like one of the snakemen
staffs. That's kind of awesome Again I'm still
loving the art here. It's really really cool
And, you know, of course one of the stupid kids
is like, is that your helmet? Stop. Don't touch
anything. And one says, you're a knight, you're
Sir Laser Lot. I thought Sir Laser Lot died with
King Grayskull. I should've. And he goes into
telling them the story about the skull, and we've
seen this skull before. Indeed we have. Ew. It
ended up being Horde Prime in DC Universe versus
Masters of the Universe when Orko went dark.
Dorko. Yeah, Dorko. I like this story. I think
it's cool. It's not my favorite out of the eight
here, but as we close out the issue here, we
see, you know, purple coming out of the skull
and... I see the skull, I see the past, the far
past. And what are you thinking as you're reading
this, the end of this here? The reveal? Yeah.
Well, there's also the mention of Spector, which
kind of turns you off immediately if you're a
classics figure collector. Yeah. But... The one
thing that kind of bothered me is you're briefly
introduced to this character and I could be wrong,
but other than maybe like background appearances,
he doesn't really show up in anything else. We
get some introduction to him, but I feel like
it's not enough. And his background's still a
little too spotty. Or it's like, oh, this is
your only shot at him? Well, it was kind of half
-assed. Yeah, and this is probably right around
the toilet. Right around the time that the toy
was gonna be released or had been released so
I Mean like for me. It's like okay red skull
turns giant purple. It's like hmm This is a you
know to you know taste a rainbow kind of moment
with Skittles and stuff and then of course we
have Skeletor Merman and Evelyn and Beastman
Skeletor has no bottom jaw at this point. I Don't
think he does or unless it's in check The the
the final page here where it shows Skeletor yeah,
it shows him really weird because his jaw didn't
actually fall off until he man destroyed it or
whatever the hell later on after this so I'm
Kind of questioning that could just be the shadowing
because he's yeah kind of has the upper mandible
Side jaw pieces, yeah. Yeah, that could be it.
It's That's one thing about the art here is that
I don't really particularly care for is the way
that the end shot is on Skeletor Evelyn looks
decent merman in Batman Yeah merman just I don't
know he looks like a ninja turtle meets Batman
Ladies and gentlemen coming the end of this year
TMNT meets Batman in IEW and DC Comics first
ever crossover. As long as it's the original
Turtles, that would make some sense. Well, it's
the... I'll talk about that later with you. Alright,
so the first issue ends with the evil warriors
with Skeletor. You got Trapjaw there, Beastman,
Evilin, Merman, and Skeletor standing over...
Oh, you even have Triclops. I didn't notice him
before. Beastman looks like Mr. T I pity the
fool Standing over sir laser lot in the skull
overall this first issue It's okay, but they're
throughout the rest of these micro issues There's
no mention of why they brought him to the present
at all. I mean and he doesn't show up at in any
piece He doesn't show up in anything after this
issue like the only reason why I can think they
brought him to the present is because hey you
have a Well, I can't even say you have a piece
of plastic on the shelves because Well, yeah
a gimmick, but I mean I can't even say that he
has a piece of plastic on the toy shelves because
let's face it Mattel toys haven't been masters
toys have been on shelves in 30 years They're
all online now My only guess that jam in his
chest could be one of what we come to realize
later Because I think the the running Thing which
would will address soon enough. Yes. They only
want eyes Yeah, it looked different than the
way they use the eyes later. So I'm not sure
On a scale to zero to five, I'm gonna give the
first chapter here from Jeff Johns and Howard
Porter I'm gonna give it a two out of five. I
I'm Two out of five on the TCR and universe rating
scale people and I'll put this in the article
or in the show notes stands for disliked it,
but The only reason why I dislike this first
chapter is because it doesn't do anything It
gives us a glimpse into certain laser lot. It
gives us a little bit of his background. And
then it gives us the evil warriors. And that's
it. There's nothing of substance here. It was
probably just a means to sell this, the idea
of this figure to the rest of us, which even
though I got rid of them, it. I forged a little
bit of a connection. I mean, yeah, I forged a
connection, too. I mean, I never had the toy.
I never cared about the toy because, I mean,
the toy itself is like, hey, let's put Superman
in a knight's helmet. Yeah, whatever. All right.
Chapter two focuses on men at arms. It is written
by Kyle Higgins. Penciler is Pop Mahan with colors
by Carrie Strouching again. I did not know Pop
had done stuff this early. Like, I knew he was
on the 2013 series and stuff, but I did not know
he was this far back in the series. And going
through it, it becomes apparent, oh, hey, I recognize
this artwork. Yeah, especially with the whole
man -at -arms thing. Which, man -at -arms in
that panel that he gets revealed in where he
says, but there's a reason they call me man -at
-arms, the full panel here. I don't know what
it is. He looks filmation based, but he also
looks 2002 based a little bit. And the crossover
is, I don't know, it's kind of maybe it's a stance
that just I don't dislike the art. I don't dislike
the character design. It just looks a little
funky. Yeah, I mean, it's in reimagined sort
of reimagining these characters, other than how
it looks like he's a shotgun over his shoulder.
That's because he does. In terms of updating
him, I think it did an okay job. Everyone always
fears redesigns because nothing is practical
anymore. As we go to find out later in the issue,
he's almost like Batman. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty
much. He's almost like Jim Gordon Batman right
now with the armor and the suit and everything
else more or less than Yes, and the mustache
of course So the sorceress needs Duncan's help
and she tells him about the eyes of chaos and
chrono and that they were originally the eyes
of grayskull and Feuding tribes ended up banding
together stole them from the castle. So it's
When I see these two panels here where she's
saying the eyes of Grayskull it is until two
warlock tribes banded together and stole them.
The one on the left and the one on the right.
One on the left is with the eyes, one on the
left is without the eyes. All I can think of
is Metroplex in Starscream's Ghost. My eyes!
Somebody stole my eyes! Well the one with the
jewels and since the jaw bridge is dropped he
looks so aghast at something that his eyes are
bugging out of his head. It's a Looney Tunes
moment, folks. It's like Wile E. Coyote just
falling off the cliff again. So, apparently in
the story, as the tribes separated the eyes,
neither had true mastery over time and space,
because Chrono is time, Chaos is space, I believe.
What do you think of the sorceress's design here?
Not a fan of it. It's like a fur disco outfit.
It's like a four. It's like a fur porn disco
outfit. I mean It's like and don't get me wrong.
I love pop Mahan and his art, but it's one of
those things where it's like this is 2012 people
Would you not need a sorceress looking JLo famous?
Oscar dress and that's what she looks like in
this in this big old panel. You can almost see
right under her navel Don't they do that with
Tila when she gets the Snake powers. Yeah. Eh,
what are you gonna do? I don't have a problem
with it, I'm just saying. It's like... It's...
I don't know. I guess they really needed to bring
in the male readers at this point. Like they're
not all male? Well, you know what I mean. I read
it for the articles. At this point, that's all
you can read it for. anyone that gets that joke
thousand geek points for you so we go through
the story here and the sorceress needs Duncan
to go and retrieve the one of the eyes chrono
or chaos or whatever and he has this cloaking
technology which sadly it looks cool it looks
amazing but sadly does not work not a wizard
wizard warlock masters of magic yeah and I don't
know why that and you you would think is the
way I view this at this point is he's got some
sort of he doesn't have the he doesn't have a
robot like scouring around his head but all's
I can hear is friggin When it says cloaking,
5, 4, 3, 2, 1, all I can hear is fucking skeets
from booster gold in my head. Yeah, exactly.
I do dig the drop down mask thing. I do, that's
awesome. That is very cool. It makes him look
more I don't want to say snake -like but by the
time all this scene is like we all we've always
known Duncan he has had the green and orange
armor for you know 30 or more years now at this
point and By the end of this issue Because of
his damage he looks more like a snake man than
anything else from the under Whatever the the
bodice under the armor is I guess Whatever So
he finds the eye and it's attached to a scepter
and all's I can think of is home and Captain
Schmeck I shush you Please tell me you've seen
home. No, I haven't What's wrong with you? Oh
my god, that movie is awesome If you want to
see Sheldon Cooper in a really funny animated
alien role watch home people So they actually
the the wizards and warlocks catch him and A
fight ensues, and we get them saying, how do
you think you're actually going to get out of
here? Oh, well, obviously I can't fight you,
but I'll just destroy a hole in your castle.
Just blow a hole in the wall. And that vehicle,
is that supposed to be a wind? What the hell?
Yeah, I don't. It must be something original.
It has to be, because it's not a Wind Raider.
It's not a Sky Slit, obviously. it's not point
dread or whatever's supposed to be attached to
the castle greyskull thing um i don't know so
the explosion happens man in arms gets away with
the eye uh gets in his uh new adventures uh spaceship
i'm sorry that's the only thing you look at the
panel where he's swinging out like tarzan to
to well no it's the friggin skyhook from the
dark night you're right he is batman yeah um
we get back to gray skull and he gives sorceress
the eye and she's like oh well let me heal your
wounds and this is what um the end page here
is what i was talking about where his his under
part like where his um where his ribs are and
where his rib cage is on his sides that looks
like snake armor to me yeah i definitely see
that Overall, what'd you think of this one? It
was decent. Um, you know, it's kind of cool to
see Duncan on a covert mission Mm -hmm. So I
mean we know what he's capable of but just showcasing
a little more that was neat Yeah, there's that
shot where it says later and you see castle to
grayskull and if you Take that shot and compare
it to the shot where she's kind of giving you
the backstory of how it was years ago There's
a noticeable difference. I was almost remote.
The first shot was almost reminded maybe the
prototype of the toy maybe possibly but wait
was grayskull out that early no i meant the 2012
prototype of the original toy oh the okay the
original toy i was gonna say wait a second wasn't
the new grayskull like in the last two or three
years because this later shot is you know kind
of just the face facade and then the two towers
are kind of dilapidated and falling apart yeah
It's a little crazy Overall, I liked it as a
Duncan story. I thought it was interesting. Like
you said seeing him on a covert mission I think
I would have been more interested even though
we kind of get the story in the 2002 cartoon
I would have been more interested to see them
adapt For his or like for an origin for him how
he came about as you know You know friend to
rain I mean, I know we see that later in the
Randor story But like how he came to be, you
know Tila be his daughter and all that and I
mean I know we know that from the from the sorcerer
story in the 2002 cartoon But it had just a bit
nice to see it in in comic form For me This one's
hard. It was better than the first story. So
I'll give it a three and a half out of five,
which is liked it What about you? I'll agree
with you on that He kind of just walks out of
there like a boss. Yeah, he kind of does. I'll
heal myself, woman. Yeah. It's magical mustache
powers. I'll heal myself. I don't need you, Alfred.
So chapter four, chapter three I should say,
is written by Mike Costa. Don't you mean Disney?
Because clearly this is the Lion King. Yes. Issue
number three is all about Battle Cat. It's interesting
to go through here and see how much the editorial
staff has changed in DC's digital universes over
the years, because I don't know any of the editorial
staff names. but this is all about battle cat
this is the first Mike Costa written story and
I know a buddy of mine Ender at Ender hates on
Twitter he um he's not a big Mike Costa fan at
least not with the transformer stuff so every
time I see my cost his name I just hear his voice
in my head is like oh cost and give me a break
but actually the battle cat story was actually
done pretty well and It's a theme that actually,
the story structure part of the theme here actually
resonates throughout the rest of the issues because
there's at least one or two other stories that
follows this same kind of structure. It's, I
don't know, it's weird for me to see Battle Cat
narrating or to hear him narrating because I,
not even that. It's it's not even that it's just
I think it's because Obviously filmation is the
only place that battle cat and Cringer ever talked
at least in cartoons and Well, I love Alan Oppenheimer
and his battle cat and his Cringer I Just can't
hear that here with cost is writing because cost
is writing it like Hulk speak. Yeah another guy
Hmm. Yeah, it's just crazy. So we have battle
cat talking about war salt and blood and meat
and we see man -at -arms T. No, that's not Tila.
That's Shira. No, it's Tila. Oh, it's Tila with
Shira's sword No, I don't think we get it. That's
us. We get a glimpse of it in the the Shira If
I know and she's got the tiara Know but that's
what I'm saying like look at this panel here
where it says meet and you look at the full panel
and it's battle cat jumping over merman and You
got he man in the background with his sword You
got Tila holding a sword with a jewel in the
center of it. It looks like the sword of protection
I'm just saying that's what it looks and yeah,
she could be wielding it. I Don't know why but
okay, but I think all She shows up in a couple
of these issues. I think it's all Tila. I'm Yeah,
it is. Because She -Ra is nowhere to be found.
Um, so we have Battle Cat in there reading this,
and... I dunno. I don't wanna just be down on
Kosta's writing, but, like, the first, um...
Until we get to the part where he says, uh, it's
my song, Song of the Green Tiger Clan. Like,
until we get to that, the whole first part is
like, give the other characters something to
say. I understand the story is coming from Battle
Cat's point of view, but at least have Merman
throw in some watery quip or something. Or have
Tila, even though I hate when she opens her mouth
half the time, have her say some witty comeback
or something. I think since the theme is a song,
the whole issue is... like a lyrical movement
and to keep it in his perspective, giving them
dialogue might break that sequence. That's true.
So we get to the flashback of how Cringer grew
up or, you know, whatever. And it's all over
Lion King. It's so obvious. I know. But see,
here's the thing. When I first saw this very
first panel with With the the father tiger going
against the father panther. I'm like hey, it's
Cringer versus panther. That's awesome, and I
realized oh wait That's not Cringer because Cringer
doesn't have red stripes And Cringers a little
kitten at this point I Love I don't know about
you, but I love this point of view. I really
do like it's and you're right. It is online king,
but I swear In the same where he said in the
panel where he says powerful father safe place
and you have the bottom part of the panel here
With all of them. Well, I'm like, okay. Where's
Colonel Hathi? Like seriously, this is jungle
book elephant style people except with cats And
the whole time I'm thinking about this I'm like,
oh my god, he's You know, these are cats. He's
talking about safe place, soft place. All I can
think of is soft kitty. From the Big Bang Theory.
Sorry, folks. Your thoughts so far on Little
Cringer? It serves a purpose. But after this,
it starts along with one of the other issues.
It kind of takes every backstu - Because throughout
the different iterations most of the backstories
with some of these characters have stayed the
same and now this one specifically changes it
Yeah So basically what happens is is the panther
clan I guess I guess you can call them that I
mean that image of them Coming up and just the
lightning and all that where it says without
warning. That's just an awesome panel They come
in they slaughter the green tiger clan Sorry,
they slaughtered the green tiger clan they You
know scar kills Mufasa You know everyone's away
Simba runs away and go to Matata I do love the
panel as as Cringer is running away the the full
scale panel with his eyes and him running and
then the Panthers I guess they're called the
Panthers. I don't know. Yeah Kosta didn't give
him a name. I just assume it's the panther clan
the purple purple tiger clan or whatever. Oh
I just love the way that that that visual is
with him running away on top with his eyes and
then the lightning with the purple cats. That's
just awesome. I Love with the artwork how much
they're able to show him a moat. Yeah. Oh, absolutely
Because there's only so many times in filmation
you can see this Cringer scared face. Yeah it
be original so we get you know him saying fear
and he says that oh in the face of his father
he you know there was something else and lo and
behold here comes he man so I guess that's what
all the lightning was earlier I didn't think
I didn't think of that now I didn't think of
that when I first read this but all the lightning
that was shown earlier I thought it was just
lightning I thought it was just a stormy night
It was just to emphasize the panther clan, but
now that I see he man in the background, I'm
like, hmm. Yeah, because I thought. Cringer's
backstory was that Adam rescued him as a cub
and then they grew up together and he said he's
a big scaredy cat. Then they get the powers.
No, he he gets the powers as a cub and grows
into a full size cat. Yeah, but Adam's already
and yeah, and somehow as he's growing here. somehow
a red saddle and mask just appear out of nowhere.
It's like, you know, I mean doesn't anybody believe
in, you know, sewing costumes anymore? I know,
I do it half the time. I mean, not all of us
can, you know, be Michelle Pfeiffer or Selena
Kyle with, you know, hello here and hell here.
Hello there and hell here. That's what it was.
But we see we see Cringer grow up we see him
become battle cat and we see him basically take
vengeance on the the purple cat clan And the
You know, I like the characterization that Costa
puts here because this is characterization We
know between the two personalities of Cringer
battle cat one is you know fears everything the
other one fears nothing The one thing that I
questioned was that this is He -Man's first meeting
with him. What qualified him to get these powers?
Other than, you know, he takes one brave swipe
at this pack of Panthors. Yeah. Usually you have
to build on that. Well, these are mini issues.
I mean, they are mini stories, so it's... I know
they're probably not going to do any more of
the actual origin one -shots like they did with
He -Man, Skeletor, and Hordak, but I would love
a full -on definitive origin story for Cringer
slash Battle Cat and even Panthor. I mean, Panthor
is the most underused character in the entire...
Well, there's probably more, but I mean, as far
as like... When I think of He -Man and Skeletor,
I think of Battle Cat and Panthor and... You
know, I spent four years over on The Powers of
Grayskull, Tales of Eternity, reviewing all 130
episodes of He -Man and the Master's Universe
from the formation and there may be one or two
episodes with Panther in them. That's a damn
shame. Come on, he's a giant purple Panther.
I'm a sucker for purple. Yeah, exactly. So we
go back to the palace and we're back to him being
Cringer and we see a guard At first I thought
that was Mechaneck, but it's not It's just some
guard where Cringer's like oh if he if he draws
he draws a sharp steel claw then I will run and
We just see the fear on him and lo and behold,
enter Tila, because I know that's not Queen Marlena.
She's stuck on Earth, I think. How clothed Tila
is for once. Yeah. It took me a minute to realize
that was her because she was so heavily clothed.
Yeah. She kind of looks like... She almost looks
like Batgirl in that a little bit. I don't know.
So they go back and they're sitting by the fire
and that's how it ends. And I'm like, wait, what?
You would think that Prince Adam would come in
here, not Tila. Yeah, you would. I don't know.
I love the art. I love seeing Cringer's origin
story, but I hate the way Costa wrote it. Yeah,
it could. It could have been much better, so
I think I'm gonna have to go back to a 2 out
of 5 on this one. I'll do that. For issue number
4, this is the story of Randor, and it is also
written by Mike Costa. Well, boy. We have Eric
Nguyen on art. Tony Avena on colors This story
is about a monster and the better men who came
after it so This is a weird story for me like
I don't mind the story seeing randor as a warrior
I love that part about the first episode of the
2002 series. I thought that was great, but What
he's fighting and who he's fighting and how it
doesn't make that much sense and then there's
the twist about the title It yeah, it makes absolutely
no sense whatsoever so they're they're fighting
these beasts randor and Duncan and Apparently
there's some virus going around something that
infects all these for you say I thought it's
I guess this leech Like character that were introduced
in the first panel it sucks, you know, it sucks
your drive, but then it kind of turns you into
a zombie or This plague that they're talking
about is a completely separate entity which and
I'm guessing leeches patient zero, maybe Yeah,
maybe I Guess this was before leech joined the
horde. I don't know unless it's one of many leeches
Yeah, probably there are usually thousands and
millions upon millions of leeches out there So
this story has the two friends fighting each
other, not fighting each other, but fighting
these leeches off and trying to save the people.
I like the art. I think the art's cool. I think
it's nice seeing the attorney and guard kind
of uniform armor helmet thing. I thought that
was cool. This is very gritty swamp thing. light
vibe to it. Very Swamp Thing. Who was the artist?
Because the new 52 artwork for Swamp Thing looks
a lot like this. Could be. So this is all about
Randall learning that prowess alone doesn't guarantee
survival on that that some are defended by fate
and you know man -at -arms ends up getting hurt
and you know he's like oh here's the antidote
take it and save you know however many people
as you can and Reindar comes to this giant bridge
how were they able to get the antidote in the
first place I don't know it doesn't explain that
Because it seemed like this was a new entity
they were fighting off of, and then now all of
a sudden, here's my magical antidote! From the
good people at Tylenol. It just goes back to
show you that Man -at -Arms is Batman. It's like,
here, third utility belt pocket from the right
people. It's like, be prepared for anything.
Be prepared? Oh, sorry. man it's gonna be a bunch
of lion king jokes in this episode folks so randor
comes to this uh very long bridge going over
to the mystic mountains where apparently they're
a bunch of houses floating i can't tell if they're
floating or if they're it looks like they're
built into the side built into the side of the
mountain yeah monastery yeah um so he fights
randor fights the monster again He goes on and
says that he gave the last of Duncan... The man
hadn't been fully drained. I gave him the last
dose of Duncan's antidote. He'd live. Duncan
would live too, though he was never as strong
as he was after that. He began to focus more
and more on armor and weapons, designs to our
great benefit. they don't tell you is the twist
at the end where you know Randor is now the Burger
King because let's face it folks if you look
at Randor in that panel where he says because
the price was dear, dearer than they will know
that is the Mattel King Randor figure That's
the design of the figure with the blue cape and
the red thing with the gold crust and the Burger
King looking beard. I mean, that's the design.
Teela's looking like a dollar General Ho again.
I'm sorry. Oh, it's only 30. Oh, it's 32. It's
sweltering 32 degrees in the square father. I
know we're going back to the beginning here,
folks, but I still can't. I'm so used to the
red hair. I hate the blonde hair on her now.
I just... Yeah, I'm a sucker for redheads, so...
Every time I see blonde, she'll... No, no! But,
yeah, he was able to save one, but had to sacrifice
this entire... monastery, town thing, but...
I guess he left it and he just cut the bridge?
Or did he kill them all? I don't... I'm trying
to see. It looks like... It looks like he cut
the bridge. So essentially there's no way, unless
you're in a sky sled or wind radar, there's no
way to get to the Mystic Mountains at this point,
I guess. But he says that it is the will that
grants power. It is will that grants power, the
will to do the unthinkable. But it only looks
like he cut them off from the rest of eternity.
It doesn't look like he just killed anybody.
I don't see him. You know? Yeah. Because I guess
if he sliced them to bits, they would probably
come back again? Yeah. Know what's really other
than just cutting that bridge what's preventing
them because you know if they fall down and injure
themselves They're just gonna keep crawling all
the way down and then Infect everything else
So that's another Mike Costa story folks We've
been accosted with a terrible story I swear man
I don't even want to read Mike Kosta's Transformers
run after reading the two issues that he's written
here. I mean, seriously. It's, oh god. I just
don't, like, he gets it, but he doesn't get it.
And, you know, here's the thing. I know that
in the beginning, certain things from the 2013
series, Mattel had influence over, and Mattel
obviously has influence over it all, but, like,
there were, like, I remember that, I remember...
And Pop, I'm sorry for saying this, but this
is what I thought of you at first. I first read
an interview with Pop Mahan from some website
when the 2013 ongoing was going to start. And
he was just being a yes man. He was like, oh,
well, whatever Mattel wants, I draw. And it's
like, what, there's no influence of your own
here? It's like, do you not enjoy these characters?
Whatever. And I think that's the case here with
Costa. It's like... He's writing for the Mattel
storyline, and that's fine, and he's giving us
characters that we know, but there's just no
substance. I mean, I guess the end product on,
I guess, the message he was trying to send is
heavy. Heavy was the crowd and all that, but
to get to there was a loose story. Very, very
loose story. For this one... Gotta give it a...
Because at least it's a random story, but the
art is fantastic, but the writing sucks. So I
guess I'll give it a two and a half out of five,
which two and a half is barely failing. The cons
slightly outweigh the pros. While the negatives
aren't overbearing, they are far too plentiful
to make it worthy of a recommend. There may be
certain redeeming qualities that are worth your
time. However, the end product leaves you wanting
more. So yeah, two and a half out of five for
me. What about you? I was going to give it a
two, but the way you described your 2 .5 ranking,
yeah, I'll go with that. But there were some
nuggets that you could pull out of there, and
it wasn't a complete failure, but there was a
lot to be desired. Absolutely. So we go to issue
number, story number five. Elin City. All about
Elin City. It is written by Kyle Higgins, the
art and cover were Mike Henderson, the letters
were Desi Cienti? And the reason why I say the
art and cover is because there is hardly any
color in this story. It's Sin City. That's all
this issue is. See, I've never... This is gonna
shock people. This is probably gonna make you
drop your microphone. I've never read... Drop
it first. Yes. I've never read nor have I ever
seen the movies for Sin City. I have yet to get
to that point in my comic reading. And I didn't
understand that at first. And I'm like, wow,
this is really lazy on DC's part not getting
a colorist. But now that you point that out,
I'm like, oh, OK, now this makes perfect sense.
There are those little specks of color which...
Little specks of purple. I think with the original
comics, red was the thing that you gravitated
towards. Yeah. Yeah. So this is a story of a
guy who meets a girl who Just how he looks doesn't
gel with the look of Eternia He just kind of
looks like a dude in a long coat. Yeah, he looks
like The character we're talking about is Nullar
Black, or Block, whatever. He looks like a really
fat Han Solo. I don't know, he looks - It's like
a mix between Han Solo, Chris Pratt, and what
was it? Was it Decker? Was that the name of Harrison
the Ford character in Blade Runner? I think so,
yeah. I was also gonna say he looks like a really
skinny, not skinny, but in the face he looks
like a really young Fisto, even though I know
he doesn't be, I know it's not Fisto. Yeah, yeah,
I can see that. So, uh, basically this is a quote
-unquote love slash betrayal story, folks. We
have Evelyn in disguise. Julie, no! It's not
your mother, don't go! Duh. Friggin Courtney
Cox. Well, is she in disguise? I mean, I know
she's oh no, okay No, she's in disguise because
at first I'm thinking well, maybe she changes
her hair No, this is in the same content. This
is sort of running current with the series and
her hair is definitely white then Well, her hair
here is black and long for the most part And
long yes, but when she eventually reveals herself
to him when she leaves his bedside we see the
traditional evil in at least they added color
to the sex scene when she changes and we get
all the bright and purples and tricky and whatever
else and we see her with her helmet so I'm not
sure if they intended the hair to be white or
if they intended it to be black it really doesn't
matter honestly So this is somewhat of a Romeo
and Juliet kind of story, I guess a little bit
even though she's the betrayer instead of Romeo
What are you thinking so far up to the point
where she eventually reveals herself well at
first it's We were revealed that it's evil in
But then the way they kind of keep this relationship
up, it's one of those situations where, hey,
let's make one of our evil characters sympathetic,
which I'm kind of tired of that. I just want
them to be evil for evil's sake. Yeah. But then
that changes again because you question everything
in the last panel or two. Yeah. Well, the thing
is, is that... And even, you know, I'm a huge
fan of Kyle Higgins, loved him on Nightwing,
Batman Beyond 2 .0, all that stuff, and what
he did with his own series, Kyle and stuff like
that, so having his style be the writing for
this issue, I liked it. I have no problems with
the writing, it's just, I don't know, I think
we got more than we bargained for with this because
it's setting up bits of the story that come up
later. Because the whole point of this is she
needs, they need a human, someone non -magical
to go in and steal the Eye of Chaos or Chrono
or one of the damn eyes. Okay, so after she reveals
herself they go to the next page and there's
a shot at the bar and there's a TV playing. When
do you ever see a TV on Eternia? Never. It completely
takes you out of the story just like I felt.
his wardrobe, even though everything's kind of
in black and white. I mean, see, here's the thing.
I think I don't I don't think this is the writer's
fault. I think it's more the artist. But the
way they portray this is Eterno City is like
this city of the future, even though we haven't
really traveled in time all that much. I mean,
we traveled from King Grayskull's time to the
present where it's King Rando and all that. But
like. You wouldn't have a TV in a bar on it.
Wouldn't even think a bar on a tourney it would
really look like this looks exactly But yes,
it's that world is a mixture of sorcery and technology
but In regards to entertainment. I I don't picture
that being an option Yeah, no, not at all. I
I just can't picture snapper car giving us the
attorney in news So they they talk about being
happy and together and knowing it wouldn't last
and he asks her to run away with him and she's
like well Skeletor he'll never let me go I'm
bound to him and this is where she tells him
the way to actually get unbound from Skeletor
but this is part of her trickery because she
gets him to steal one of the eyes of Grayskull
And then she essentially destroys his life She
essentially kills him well the I don't think
we've mentioned that they yes, they need a non
-magic user and a human but they have to get
into Castle Grayskull and The only way he well,
it's the castle at first, but it seems like it's
the back entrance through Eternia, I'm not sorry
not the royal palace and he has I don't know
because it's the castle at first and then it
is the recreation thing yeah I think it's a museum
yeah maybe but he has knowledge of this because
he was a former attorney and guard attorney and
guard yeah yep this is why I'm kind of wondering
why this story was told first and then the trap
jaw story because the trap jaw story and the
story intertwine with each other so we get you
know we get his outgoing monologue where he's
like when most people think of eternal city they
think of money they think of prestige they think
of power they think living here makes them matter
too bad it's all lie Evelyn returns to Skeletor
and he does have a full face thank god only black
and white I guess could bring it out because
the other art kind of sucked She has the eye,
she gives it to Skeletor, and he's like, oh,
what are those things? And I guess they're all
things from when they were in a relationship
or whatever else. Oh, nothing important. And
she basically kind of whisks them away, and we
see the mystic mountains? Yeah, I was a little
confused by that, because I understand what the
emotion they're trying to pull out of you. but
one would typically think it's a picture of the
two of them together or a picture of him. I don't
know the significance of the content in the picture.
I think what they're doing here is they're trying
to tie these stories together to this point where
We mentioned, you know in the randor story We
mentioned the mystic mountains because that's
where he was and he cut the bridge to the mystic
mountains So I think here they're trying to keep
up that facade because it's mentioned later in
the trapjaw story Or is this? Pieces for her
to plot against Skeletor because that could be
that's the location of the other eye Hmm could
be it was it was all really confusing Yeah, it
was very very confusing Issue number five I like
Kyle Higgins writing I got used to the art after
a while after I noticed that there was a bit
more color even though it is mainly black and
white but I did enjoy the pops of color here
and there I give it a three and a half which
is liked it according to our scale three and
a half like it issues are certainly prevalent
but so are these successes typically there is
one specific area of extraordinary achievement
for me that's the color or a multitude of quality
moments that make the negative aspects relatively
easy to accept the failures are not necessarily
glaring and are often a byproduct of design Though
the difficulties one encounters hold your enjoyment
back from reaching its fullest potential. What
would you give this one? I'm teetering on a 1
or a 1 .5. Whoa! Okay, okay, okay. Like I said,
I don't like how they always have to make a villain
sympathetic sometimes. The artwork was glaringly
pulled from Frank Miller in Sin City and even...
the use of the hints of color. It was incredibly
distracting. I did not like this one at all.
Okay, just to give people a example of what these
ratings mean to our GCR and universal rating
system. If you're giving this a one and a half,
a 1 .5, that means it's terrible. The positives
are few and far between. It is an abundance of
failures, including one or two specific areas
that are overpowering disasters. The areas of
success are minute in their effectiveness when
compared to the product as a whole. If you're
going to give it one star out of five, That is
hated it has several areas of extreme failure
that aggravate you to your inner core Only one
or two areas can be considered achievement But
those areas have relatively little impact on
the overall experience while it is not a lock
for worst of the year It is surely in the running
Yeah, let's go with a one Wow Okay, wow, all
right ladies and gentlemen This is the first
time in The Pull Bag's three -year history that
anyone has ever given a comic a one. Okay. Good,
I'm a history major. Yes, you are. Moving on
to issue number six. This is an orco story. Now,
okay, I see everyone leaving. Come back fully
rewarded. This is written by Jeff Parker. The
artist is Chris Google adi Letters are done by
Darren Bennett. The cover is done by Dan hip
And we start off with he man and battle cat fighting
It's a nice interpretation I like it I think
the sort of power looks like crap though What
You know you start at the hill and you work your
way up and then there are all these weird dents
not like Battle -worn dents, but it looks like
a specialty knife It looks like a letter opener
Ronco Showtime sword of power Right now in the
next 30 minutes, you'll get 60 additional knives
And the pocket fisherman What about so is this
sword one of those said it forget it kind of
things? For orca haters, I'm short Castle grayskull
is glowing green there's some kind of spell going
on the sorceress is doing some kind of magic
It's a powerful vestige of the forming of our
world. When you brought it back from the battle
at the fortress, I saw a chance for a magical
triumph. To have it in the chamber of Castle
Grayskull creates powerful focal point. I enchanted
it to re -channel mystic energy, deplete the
power that evil forces can use, and keep it all
for good. My plan was sound. It could not fail.
Unless a foreign object or creature corrupted
the spell. Hey sorceress check out where my new
quarters are gonna be Oh Orko His presence made
the spell unstable to safety. It's going to boom
Wow So that's what Krypton looks like exploded
all green and stuff where ends the reality of
Sunder Yes, exactly Is everyone well? I sure
am sorceress and lo and behold the 2002 orco
design makes a comeback sort of I didn't realize
Until I'm looking at it now. He his feet His
legs they're in shadow, so you it's hard to make
So or go is bigger than everybody else we have
a chibi he man And I wasn't you transformed Dwar
and Sorceress. Yeah. I will say this for this
issue. This issue is a lot of fun. It is. I know
everyone hates Orko. I get that. But I only hate
Orko when he really screws up to the point where,
well, this did almost destroy the universe. But
the way he screwed up here, it makes the comic
and the way the storytelling is really funny
and enjoyable. Because at this point, when we
start going through the rest of this, It's nothing
but parodies. Yeah, and it changes panel to panel.
Even within the panel, it changes. Yep. Grayskull
is under siege. Skeletor's forces have reached
our walls and we're compromised. Boom. I love
how Trapjaw has a candy cane for a hook. And
apparently everybody was changed. And yeah, Trapjaw
has a - I just now know, yeah, wow. It's like
if Mickey Mouse or I guess the Sorcerer's Apprentice
meets Dr. Strange, everything is changing. Pretty
much. And Panther actually speaks, which is,
I think, a first. Wait, does he? Yeah. Panther,
stop lo - Ah, Panther, stop looking cute! Can't
help it Skeletor. I feel suddenly lovable. Oh
Yeah and burps he looks like a He looks like
a hot pink or magenta Kirby. Yeah, he does his
little arms and By that I mean Kirby right back
at you folks not Jack Yeah, not Jack. No, I don't
think Jack Kirby could look at that lovable as
much as we all love King Kirby I don't think
he could be that cute So as this story progresses
we encounter various changes and changes and
changes. We have a Batman appearance. From the
man in arms and then... No, that's Manny Faces.
Yeah, because man in arms is beneath him and
each arm and leg is different. His one arm is
the thing with a super soaker. That's awesome.
his other arm is a it's got a slingshot then
he's got a claw so he's kind of roboto -like
you've buzzed off in the background don't mind
me I'm just a little bee yeah just a little bee
kind of reminds me of that Jerry Seinfeld animated
movie Bee Movie Don't worry gang or a man will
defend Castle Grayskull and we have a a Dark
Knight returns Dark Knight returns light inference
jump. Yeah We have Captain Hook Skeletor. I think
that was supposed to be spongebob Maybe yeah
because yeah Yeah, because yeah, but that's yeah,
it is supposed to be spongebob, but He's got
a hook for a hand and a peg leg. It's Whatever
Merman Merman might be the best out of all of
them. I think man -in -arms as a as a fish dick
Just sitting there with his eyes squinted. Oh,
what have I gotten in myself? And then we have
the traditional drawn just 2d stuff At least
we're not underwater anymore, but I can't look
side to side You know what they say about the
physics and attorney if you don't like it. Just
wait a minute. I Can't probably find Skeletor
like this Even though they've they've lost a
third dimension he's Skeletor seems to have put
on a couple dimensions around his waist Yeah,
you know all those You know, if he was a little
bit more purple here, like his cloak and his
hood and all that, I'd be like, oh, he's a part
of the purple cobras. I noticed all the scribbling.
with you know it looks like a toddler drew these
and yeah he's got the little muscles and it has
an arrow pointing that says hero and the stress
marks and then you go to Skeletor and he's got
stink lines and it's like bad guy boo boo boo
boo boo boo boo fan thorn battle cat yeah gunker
kitties and a funny thing about battle cat here
is he's drawn away his The way the art moves
around the image is it's like the drawing that
Rafiki did in the Lion King, I swear to God.
If you just rotate the image a little bit so
he's like not, we're saying so he's horizontal,
it would be the same thing as Simba in the Lion
King. So she says the Mordog skull is becoming
more unstable. Our whole existence may soon implode.
And then we get to Pagmai. This I was not expecting
but this is awesome is pretty cool If it all
ends I'm at least going out with the high score
not if I eat you before you power up trawling
I Mean honestly, could you imagine any other
character in this universe being pac -man then
Skeletor? So awesome it changes again to Calvin
and Hobbes Which is pretty cute with Skeletor.
He he's basically a kid in a hoodie I Don't okay
I know I know of Calvin and Hobbes and all that
I know of the two characters count But who the
hell is orco supposed to be like he's just supposed
to be orco in that style I guess I'm assuming
I then because I know he man and Cringer battle
cat or whatever you're supposed to be Calvin
and Hobbes So yeah, I don't know anything about
the ancillary characters if there are Oh wait,
and Man in Arms is a snowman in the background.
Yes, yes he is. And then we get, you know, Orko's
like, cough, it's getting worse, it must be har
har har. It's Stinkor's world, you just breathe
in it. And Castle Brace Skull is just a cardboard
box. Think this is the first time we've seen
stink or in the comics since the 2002 animated
series I thought he shows up in the background
Well, he might oh, yeah, but but with an actual
line Yeah, I know I don't even have a nose and
it hurts So source, you know toucan sorceress
is like, you know follow your nose Leave the
battle and come back to the tower. Why does it
look like she's got a man hand? She's supposed
to be a puppet. She's got it clearly in a man's
hand. Yeah. But it looks like a Toucan Sam puppet,
except it's more blue than Toucan's usual colors.
Oh, if you destroy, I temporarily have the power
and you destroy the skull and everybody's back
to normal and Sorceress's boobs are hanging halfway
out and everything else. Yay. Everybody's back
to normal, but Orko's like, but they're still
fighting. Yes, good and evil in constant struggle,
the way of the universe is restored. It's a pretty
good show anyway. I love the close -up of Orko
at the end. Just watching it with his - with
his fist on his chin, his non -existent chin.
Yeah, it's like, hmm. Um, I - Simply for the
references, simply for the parodies, I loved
this issue. This issue really had no real story.
It was just meant to be a fun one -off, I guess.
I think it had no right to be this good. Of the
seven, no, eight, this is my favorite. This is,
it's probably my second favorite. My favorite
will be coming up here in a little while, but
I dug this. I thought it was great. So on this
one, 0 to 5, what would you give it? A 4. OK,
a 4 is really liked it. The overall quality is
very high and surely to be a positive experience
for all those that partake. The issues that are
there are impossible to ignore, but also predominant.
also not predominant enough to have a large impact
on your experience. Returning to it in the future
may allow you to forgive certain problems, may
also lead the discovery of new ones." See, here's
the thing about this, and we wrote this universal
rating system a few years ago, people, so it
may or may not need to be updated, but I think
most of the descriptions hold true stuff. I'm
also going to give this a four. I loved this.
I know, as I've said already in this podcast
episode, not a lot of people like Orko stories.
No, this was an incredibly playful episode, or
issue. Issue, absolutely. The artwork mimicked
that feeling. Yes, Orko is Orko, but we're not
treated to the same, oh, man at arms got another
bucket of water dunked on him, or there's a piece
of eggs. No, he... He's screwing up elsewhere,
but in more of an original way. Mm -hmm. So issue
seven. Oh, did I ask you what you would give
it? A four. All right, a four. All right. Issue
number seven, second to last issue, is Trap Jaw,
written by Kyle Higgins. Art by Mike S. Miller.
Colors by Tony Avina, again. Letters by Deron
Bennett. This is my favorite out of the eight.
I love this. Because we never, in the history
of MOTU, one time in 30 -something years, have
we ever really gotten the origin of how Trapjaw
became Trapjaw, which was in the beginning three
-parter of the 2000X series cartoon. So... This
is another one of those stories that alters some
of the backstory. It does alter some of the backstory,
but... And this is that story that I mentioned
earlier with the battle cat thing. that and with
the randor thing this is another story that follows
that same kind of plot line where and this is
actually connected to the evil in story so because
the events that happened here are what led up
to evil in destroying black or block or well
whatever you know whatever so um we have cronus
uh talking to luna And Cronus is essentially
a thief or, you know, not a thief, but a techno
-thief or something. He's a techno -criminal.
He wants to make money off of different tech.
And we see one of the eyes of Grayskull. And
he basically tells the guy, it tells the guy,
if you want this ion cannon, keep that in mind
and give me something I can sell this week. Or
the cannon goes to someone else. I love the internal
monologue here with trapped with with Cronus
for you know, aka soon -to -be trap jaw and We
come up to the attorney and guard and they're
like, you know If you're serious about pulling
a job black, this is the one their bosses are
moving the gold next week So it's a gold heist.
Yay And we have Cronus dealing with the attorney
and guards they are all in on it and Things go
horribly wrong to say the least for him For everybody
I mean really because you know blacks not there
doesn't show up these two other guards that are
with them I Thought their names were different
from the two guards that run into black in the
evil Lin issue Because it seemed like they had
a grudge with him because of something that went
wrong and this seems like it, but I don't think
yeah the same names well that story well wait
well the story was written by Kyle so maybe they
are this I will have to go back and check and
double check it if you want um you know he's
like it's Nolar he's he's there come on we gotta
go something was wrong we all knew it we just
didn't know how wrong and oh no no no no no his
nipples are blinding they're they're very distracting
you know if he was wearing a skin tight rubber
suit everyone would be complaining about he -man
bat nipples at this point i feel like the shot
of he -man the color is wonky well the whole
outfit is wonky yeah i'll give you that it he
he looks okay he's got the traditional h or the
traditional gold thing crest to Symbolize an
H for He -Man. He's got the power sword, which
he's holding at the side So we can't really see
like how accurate it is to a real, you know the
filmation sword And then he's got you know, Randy
Macho Man Savage's, you know championship belt
around his waist and I'm like really seriously
He -Man works for the WWE at WWF now, really?
This was that first outfit they gave him in the
Sixth Parter I think yeah So, they all realize,
oh no, it's He -Man, and He -Man jumps at them,
they fire, He -Man grabs, go ahead. Well, yeah,
this scene seems almost a little too brutal for
He -Man. Yeah, I mean... He takes Cronus' gun,
breaks it, Cronus goes to run away, he hurls
the gun at him, and breaks his jaw off in the
process. Well, because the gun fires. Oh, I thought
he throws it and it hits him the face. Look at
the panel. Look at the panel where he throws
it and look at the next panel. It fires. There's
a green shot right to his face. Oh, I thought
that was just a strike effect. Oh, maybe it is.
I don't know. It looks like, eh, it's up to interpretation.
I think what they were going for here with the
art of throwing the gun, they were going for...
Actually, you're right here, because the next
panel where we see his jaw missing, his skin
is already green in the face. Okay, you're right.
Yep. So, my thing here is with He -Man throwing
the gun, they were going for a, oh my gosh, Batman,
what are we gonna do now? Don't worry, old chum,
I'll throw this Batarang and it'll just bonk
him on the head and it'll be alright. i really
think that's what they were calling for here
and sadly it um... backfires quite literally
you know it seemed to have rolled over and yet
you notice the uh... the tools in his pocket
or his belt that are hanging out of the ones
that he uses later on for his arm attachments
when we get to that scene that'll be a little
different i thought something else is going on
there so maybe you can explain that to me but
We leave Cronus, he has a green, so I guess,
you know, I guess Jeff Dunham was right, when
you choke a smurf, they do turn green. So Cronus
is left, you know, no job, bleeding out of whatever's
left of his mouth and face, and his face is all
green while his hands and everything else are
still blue. And he goes on to say, by the time
I made it back to the cave, I could barely stand.
I'd lost too much blood. And we get to the tools
part, and we get to the part with all this. And
see, this is the part that kind of confused me,
because I wasn't sure you mentioned his tools.
And in this transformation scene, it doesn't
look like he's repairing himself. It looks like
something mystical is. He could barely stand,
so he makes it back to the cave, he leans on
the table, loses consciousness, which knocks
over this vial of nanites. Oh, okay, the nanites,
okay. That's what, okay, I got it now. Seeing
the shot that the weapons, the tools on his belt
are... Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, or what the
nanites grabbed, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, or what
the nanites assimilate to become his weapons.
I love this. I love these panels though. It's
I mean they look it looks it's very shocking
You know in the one panel where they're Basically
reaching into his tongue and all that where you
can see his green hair underneath. I'm like,
hey, it's Rio pachinko Not as green as purple
hair, I'm sorry Rio I told you to put the mask
down It's showtime synergy yes exactly um so
we see him again where he's got his green face
his blue body and his purple hair i really wanted
to see like as the rest of the issue progresses
here he goes to snake mountain snake mountain
looks okay typical 2000x design yeah yeah i don't
know i just wish i had like a full -on splash
page of Snake Mountain itself, but whatever.
So we see Skeletor and Evelyn and brings him
the picture of the eye and says I can get this
for you and you know, Nullar Black and I want
him to suffer and this is where it ties back
into Kyle's Evelyn story earlier. The one thing
about these panels with Skeletor and Trapjaw,
well first when Trapjaw first wakes up in the
cave and everything, Still wanted to see his
job before he actually put it like I wanted to
see his face like I I'm usually not that into
the whole guts and gore and blood and all that
But I kind of wanted to see what he looked like
before he eventually puts the jaw on So we get
to the know our black scene the kiss and the
betrayal from Evelyn trap jaw look well Cronus
looks on and this is where we get the picture
of the mountains thing with the houses because
that's the other location of the eye and we go
on he only goes on to say if and if he has both
eyes of greyskull he'll be able to wipe he -man
off the face of eternia and i'll be out of my
revenge send the sorceress a message and he's
going to basically um betray skeletor for now
And he says, you were right before, Luna. It
is all about the long game. And the long game
is what Trapjaw is made for. Wow. So he spits
nanites now? I guess? It's a very commanding
panel. I almost think the panel where he's putting
on his red helmet is a little bit more commanding,
but the imagery of him... spitting out the nanites
is really friggin' cool. Yeah, because he has
six rows of teeth like a shark. Well, I don't
know if a shark has that many, but that effect.
And then these bloodshot eyes looking right at
you with his Magneto helmet. Hey, at least he
looks better than Kevin Bacon in a Magneto helmet.
Yeah. First class, you can kiss my ass. All right,
so for the trap draw story, what are you going
to give this one? I guess I want to give it a
3 .5. I enjoyed it, but at least for me, I can't
distinguish if this new backstory, I liked it
more. I think the original was that he fails
on a mission and Skeletor beats him within an
inch of his life. which goes to show how more
of an effective character Skeletor is, but this
isn't a Skeletor story. I'm not sure which one
of them I like better. Between the, because I
don't remember the Skeletor story. Between this
and the 2002 cartoon series, I think this is
a more engaging story than him just having the
The vile thrown on him or whatever whatever the
hell happened. I it's been a while since I've
seen the 2002 series For me I'm gonna give it
a four out of five. I really enjoyed this cuz
it's not often we get a trap -jaw origin deep
origin, and because this ties back into the Evil
In story from earlier, because like we said,
that story kind of felt like there was something
else going on, and this is what it was. I almost
think that the Evil In story could have been
told in issue six, basically just flip -flop
them, but whatever works, I guess. Alright, so
final issue for issue number eight of the Masters
of the Universe mini -series from DC Comics.
The final issue is written by Mike Costa. The
artist is Drew Johnson. The colors are done by
Catherine Leno. The letters are done by Cidia
Tempo -Fonte. I guess that's how you... Tempo
-Fonte. Whatever. I don't know. And we start
off with aetheria you are under arrest in the
name of hordak and we see a holy shit desparra
I thought they only introduced her with the Okay,
let's see this was what pisses me off about DC
and Mattel When the 2013 series was about to
start they're like, oh my god she was back, but
she's not she was she's desparra and If I had
read this before, obviously, all the other stuff,
I would have been less shocked than I was when
that came out. But the fact that she was originally
Despara from the very beginning, like... Well,
it's pretty much the secret of the sword origin.
She's just more vicious and has a new moniker
and costume. Yeah, and I mean, don't get me wrong.
I don't mind that. I like that. I'm saying that...
because I like her eventual transformation from
Despara to Shira in the ongoing series and all
that like we've already talked about in the 2013
series but to find out that it goes back this
far I was like oh because they made such a huge
deal out of it when they were promoting and doing
stuff for the whatever it's just a little thing
for me I'm not gonna take away from this this
issue from it and she's going on and on about
power and how so so few have it and she's uh
pretty vicious but she um gives pause when a
child is about to be hurt because she's having
memories from the past after she slaughters flutterina
yeah flutterina is that really her name yeah
i think that's her name you want the wings oh
huh yeah you're right wow i do like the dispara
costume at least. It looks pretty cool. Kind
of looks like the actual costume, not the helm,
but the actual... it's kind of a cross between
symbiote Spidey and Catwoman. All I can think
of is Mr. Sinister. Okay, that too. Yeah, I can
see that. So the spar returns to Shadow Weaver
and at this point in the mo to series Hordak
is not back. He is still some otherworldly purple
Fascination whatever the hell from his 1 ,000
year old story from when he and zodak fought
a thousand years ago or whatever the hell so
But I do like seeing Shadow Weaver again Thoughts
from user it looks like well There's the shot
of her on the hill and the cloak is a little
open from the waist down, but you don't see anything
Which is kind of neat Yeah, and then there's
the close -up and then Despair takes the mask
off and they're talking about her dreams and
I Don't like the look of her with the helmet
off Yeah, the the black mascara the the the the
football makeup is kind of ruining it but That
eventually changes over time. I I don't even
I know it's adora, but it doesn't it doesn't
feel well obviously doesn't feel like her There's
just I don't see it. Yeah granted. She her hair
is really short, but yeah All this missing is
a bow cut so she and shadow weaver have some
story you know some you know more interactions
she's like focus your mind my darling ignore
these distractions you're a force captain and
um you know shadow weaver is like did you hear
that my lord i hear all she is beginning to remember
again in these dreams and we see a very um weird
looking fright zone image and supposedly that's
hordak through the gate or something where are
they taking all these slaves into spondos I think
so yeah just killing them or enslaving them further
I don't know it's not like they have you know
a magna beam charger or something it looks almost
like an incinerator yeah it's what it does look
like I don't like the art on the horde trooper
though. The horde troopers look horrible in this.
They look like Robocop rejects with bat red bat
symbols on their chests. I mean seriously. The
the front two the shading almost looks like they're
smiling. Yeah. This was a story of the Pringles
man before he was the So she's you know, wait,
is that bow? Yeah Whoa She gets distracted again
it's not the whelping chambers. I remember it's
softer a place a gentle place and See, this is
the thing with the as much as I love the comics
all you got of you I wish some of the panels
were done better. I wish this panel here between
her and her the sparse out of her face and bow
and her Actual side of her face and her and Adam
was actually a full page Spread than just split
up by two panels There was a little child there.
I think I have a burl nope clunk you're out And
shadow weaver then removes everything all the
memories and when your mind is clear your path
is clear and We get more fighting Think I like
the sparrows interaction with Tila more than
this part of the origin This fight scene where
her mind has been cleansed once again these background
characters that she's fighting they've they've
been given a lot of distinctive qualities that
you don't see in a lot of At least up into this
point all these masters background characters
because I'm looking at them and it makes me think
Okay, am I missing something? Are these important
characters from something else that I haven't
read? I don't think so. I think she's just slaying
slaves. I think that's... Well, might be part
of the Great Rebellion or something. I don't
know. I don't notice any... There isn't someone
with, you know... Purple outfit and pink hair
here. I mean, you know, there's no glimmer. There's
no Queen Angela There's no hung to the harpy.
So yeah, I don't think they're anyone in particular
Yes, the amount of the attention to detail that
was given to them It makes them look as if there's
they're more important than we I think they are.
Yeah It goes on to say in my dreams. There is
the beating of wings. My dreams confirm that
I'm on the right path. I know it nice sunset
What was the best thing about this? Nice sunset.
Well, I mean, it is a nice image. Nice sunset.
She goes on to say, in my dreams, I know it.
Those wings will carry me towards something,
my destiny. I can feel it. And we don't actually
see what the wings are, but we see the power.
And to be continued in the pages of He -Man and
the Master's Universe, which is the 2012 miniseries.
And we see a giant Zora wing with the Sword of
Protection. Well, at least they got the sort
of protection right it's even got a blue jewel
in it too Because everywhere else in the stories
coming up or the stories to follow this have
red jewel I like the final issue. It's probably
costas best writing on the series And that's
saying a lot folks Since costas writing on the
series is kind of sucky all around What would
you what are your final thoughts and ratings
um I get in terms of What we've what we eventually
are given with her as to Spara and the other
issues It's definitely not my favorite, but I
think it does a better and more concise Attempt
on explaining her back right her background in
such a short amount. Oh Absolutely, because I
mean they they kind of rehashed them what we've
been given in this issue in the ongoing, but
it felt a little more confusing. This is very
quick to the point, but we understand what's
going on. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's really
what this is all about. What would you rate it?
Zero out of five. I'll give it a solid three.
Yeah, I'm right there with you. Three. And for
those not knowing, three is essentially called
barely passing. Like I said, I'll put the link
to the Universal Rating System so everybody can
see it in the show notes. Overall, I'm glad we
went back and did this before we started Eternity
War, because Eternity War essentially picks up
from... It ignores issue 19 of the 2013 ongoing,
thank God. It essentially ignores that. It picks
up from where 18 left off, where it's the end
of the Blood of Grayskull storyline, so... Very
awesome. I enjoyed this series. We're gonna take
a quick break, come back, and close the show
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The Pull Bag. This is episode 112. Coming up
next week is episode 113, which is going to be
our Halloween episode, where we're going to have
Angel Masks, which was a little one -off mini
series kind of thing. And we're also going to
talk about Mars Attacks Popeye. So that's gonna
be interesting. This episode actually comes out
on October 21st, 2015. October 21st 2015 was
the day Marty and Doc went into the future, and
this originally was going to be the Back to the
Future number one review, but sadly due to time
constraints and some other things we had to change
it up. But we went back to the future of the
property. Yes. Next Saturday night, we're sending
you back to the future. I enjoyed these little
one -offs. I think, like I said, the Trapjohn
one is my favorite, followed by the Evil Inn
one, the Orca one, and then the She -Ra one.
The others... I could take them or leave them.
What about you? I definitely enjoyed these the
second time, or as I went back and read them.
With the She -Ra one, it felt a little superfluous,
even though I think that really should go to
the orgo one Because everything was on Eternia
everything was kind of tied in with the jewels
and then a she were story or a Despair story,
so I felt taken out Yeah, it didn't really give
like a straight ending like if they had to like
if hordak had somehow tied like if they like
if they tied the Kidnapping of the twins into
something with the jewels Right that would want
Absolutely would've. Where can the people interact
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