The Pull Bag
Transformers Robots in Disguise Review

About this Episode
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this is the 32nd back issue classic episode i'm
your host tfg and mike joining me is lady rec
hello hello and nicole beetles diva hello bonjour
And before we get into today's topic, um, we're
going to bash on Derby drivers. The first Saturday
in May, at least here in Kentucky, most people
are pretty much 95 % of the state. I would be
in the other 5%. Really put a lot of care and
love into the Kentucky Derby, which brings a
lot of money and tourism. It does not bring gambling
because Kentucky is a no gambling state. If you
want to gamble, you got to go over the boat to
Indiana. Um, you know, so, but the first Saturday
in May for us geeks is free comic book day. And
this year free comic book day had a hell of a
lot of surprises for us. Um, There was the lackluster
secret wars issue there was the IDW TMNT issue
there was DC's dumbass divergence issue and then
there is another IDW title Transformers robots
in disguise Thank God this has nothing to do
with politics So, before we get too far into
this really quickly, let's go around the room.
Nicole, what is your usual habits on Free Comic
Book Day? Do you ignore it? Do you celebrate
it? What do you do? I usually try to celebrate
it this year because I've got a whole different
shift and stuff. I, well, it was crazy this year,
so I didn't go this year because I think I was
up for 36 hours, and I just couldn't stand to
be in line for another two. Because my comic
book shop is huge. They make a big deal about
it. They bring in professional comic book artists
and writers. It's kind of like a little mini
Comic Con. And it's a lot of fun. And the thing
is, it's free. Of course, I wouldn't I know that's
the whole point about you don't have to pay for
their signatures or their commission. Oh Yeah,
and so I always tell people you want he's put
a lot of work into this There's you you need
to buy something from him. You know, I always
try I love it. I adored I think it's a lot of
fun again, I missed out on this year, which really
sucks because nude work shift this year did not
agree with me, and I'm getting old. Okay, so
I love it. It's great stuff. What about you,
Amy? What's your tradition for free comic book
day? My tradition is hopefully to have the day
off from being a parent so I can actually get
to the comic shop. This year I did not get a
chance to. I feel like we're so lame this year.
Everything's falling apart. But no, I didn't
get a chance to go down there Well, your boys
are old enough, right? I mean, oh, yeah. Well,
why not make it a family outing? That would have
that would have been possible to do that if my
husband hadn't been out of town all week So it
just turned out that he was out of town all week
and We were just swamped with everything. It
was real May was insane for me. It was like so
incredibly insane Which is funny because like
we had Field trips and my husband was out of
town for work. There's a funeral there was a
Comic -con there was the end of school there
was oh just there was just tons of stuff so Yeah,
and a camping trip. I mean it was just it was
just yeah We slammed everything into that month
not that we intended to but it just kind of did
so Unfortunately comic book day for me just didn't
happen But the good thing is, not all comic shops,
we're talking about this right now, not all comic
shops actually participate with Free Comic Book
Day. So anybody, if you're thinking about doing
it next year, which is highly recommended, I
totally recommend it, other people recommend
it, you gotta call ahead, find out what's your
comic shop, if they're doing anything free or
anything like that, because sometimes people
walk in like, hey, where's my free comics? And
they're like, we don't do Free Comic Book Day
here. Just let you know that does happen. So,
you know, I would say, and again, I'm probably
guesstimating here again, I would use the 95
5 % thing, or I would say 95 % of stores around
the country do it. Yeah. And there's other 5
% that don't. Um, cause let's face it as, as
Nicole said, you know, while it may be free comic
book day for us, the stores still have to purchase.
these things from the publishers. And they still
have to get them shipped to them too. So it's
like, you know, they still have costs on top
of that. And then on top of all of that is like,
you know, some people don't have comic shops
near them. And so that's the other, the other
half that I, this is like the first comic shop
or the comic shop that I have right now is the,
it's been open for like the last three years.
So I haven't been always be able to participate
with free comic book day because I didn't always
have a comic shop nearby. So yeah. And as Nicole
said, if you can on free comic book day, buy
something, get your, you know, you can get your
free comics, but also if you want to really help
out your shop, buy something. Doesn't matter
if it's a comic, if it's a trade paperback, if
it's a toy, a poster, just buy anything. Buy
a, buy a big bang theory Sheldon button. I mean,
just anything. We're gonna take a quick break,
you're gonna hear some sort of audio clip, and
we'll come back with Transformers Robots in Disguise
issue number zero. After this... we could really
use a prime right about now all right we are
back and it is time to talk about IDW's free
comic book day 2015 offering one of their offerings
anyway since they had two this year transformers
robots in disguise issue number zero the only
cover we had because I don't think they did an
alternate for this issue is bumblebee Grimlock
sideswipe and strong arm with ghost prime in
the background on it what do we think of the
cover ladies it's awesome it definitely it definitely
brings I mean it's very bright it gets it gets
you to notice the atomic that's for sure and
of course Bumblebee's the most recognizable character
these days and he's right in the center so yeah
this is gonna this is good marketing absolutely
so This this it's almost weird to not have And
I know this is a special thing because it's free
comic book day and but it's almost weird not
to have a Transformers comic that has the the
previously on it or or a you know cast of character
page or even the Cover page that'll come next
issue. I know this is the free comic book page
It's the reboot, so it doesn't have things like
that in it. And this issue is written by John
Barber. Now, when issue one comes out in July,
it will be written by Georgia Ball. However,
the artist will be returning. So we're going
to have Priscilla Tramontano on art. I like Priscilla.
She did a great job. This is really cool to see
this. Really uber excited that she's going to
be spearheading this whole thing. Because her
art is just fantastic. We needed her in no disrespect
to whoever it was that was on the art on Beast
Hunters, I don't remember. Yeah, something like
that. Maybe. I don't know. We really needed Priscilla
on Beast Hunters. Because, and we're not even
there yet folks, but I'll just say right now
the reason why we needed Priscilla on Beast Hunters
is because of the final page of this comic and
how the TF Prime characters look. But Transformers
Robots in Disguise, in general for those that
don't know. It's the new cartoon series airing
at 6 30 a .m. Eastern Standard Time on Cartoon
Network on Saturday mornings Yes, that's right.
I said 6 30 a .m. Pope people that's if you're
lucky enough to be on the East Coast Yeah, and
I we had to get up like at Twilight 1 o 'clock
No, if it's on at 630 here out in your area Amy,
it's it's 9 no 330 and Nicole was 430. Yeah,
that's what everyone wants to do on a Saturday
is wake up at that time DVR's are yeah exactly
this exactly the thing I said And basically this
is a continuation of prime, but what? the cartoon
series now is doing is it's the 3d models on
2d backgrounds um it's kind of a uh it's kind
of like somebody took animated and prime and
meshed them together yeah i could see that yeah
um i always thought that it kind of had and and
this is just coming from me because i just i
watched it but um guys remember the uh shoot
now i'm gonna pull a fix it again crap Tron yes
Well, you know what kind of like the stylization
of it, yeah There's a slight vibe of that to
me at least in the show. I can see that You can
just see the little bit of a nuance there. I
mean, it's practice much more colorful than the
Tron one was but Yeah, you know and so far for
that series we are up to 13 out of the 26 episodes
for season 1 yeah So what are we have both of
you watched different episodes of the series
or I've watched all that's that's current as
well, so What do we think overall before we really
dive into the comic? What do we think of the
cartoon series overall to this point? I think
it's fantastic. I like that. I just like it.
It's just it's it's really good. I found different
things about it that it's hitting all the same
kind of it's hitting a right group of people
that I think that just they're they're being
smart about it. Where Transformers Prime was
smart because they had so many characters there.
kind of doing about the same thing here except
it's not nearly as dark it's a little more lighter
and much more happy kind of feel to it not too
chipper but just like it's it's not the same
dark heavy serious stuff going on like they did
in Transformers Prime even though it had great
um comedy to kind of lighten that up that we're
not having to see that here in this this this
show now So it'll be interesting to see where
they go with the comic. But yeah, it's pretty
fun. Absolutely. Nicole, thoughts? I have a love
-hate relationship with it. Overall, I do enjoy
it. I just wish they'd get over the villain of
the week thing. I get back to Steeljaw. Is that
right? Yeah. Okay, for some reason, I was just
like, that doesn't sound right. And what he's
up to, but it seems like it's just the villain
of the week right now. I want to get over that
hump. I know it's going to be coming here soon.
You know, the transfer was prime, it had the
same issue. I know, that's what I'm saying. Yeah,
I didn't really get it. I had the same thing
with prime, you know, because it's just like,
okay, we're just collecting another item. Let's
get on with the big story. Like I said, I still
enjoy it. I just want them to get over that little
edge and be like, okay, here we go. You know,
I think the reason why, at least in the first
season, they're doing the whole villain of the
week thing is because they want to focus on,
and this could be a Hasbro thing. I don't know.
It might, might be just Jeff Klein, Adam Beach
and Margaret Scott and the rest of the people
that work on the cartoon series, but In the beginning
of the series, the prison ship Alchemora crashes,
all the Decepticons escape, they're essentially
leaderless because we don't have any mention
of any kind of Decepticon leadership whatsoever.
Now I do know that's coming because the last
episode of Season 1 title has something to do
with a mega -villain. That's the reason why they're
doing the whole villain of the week thing is
because they want to highlight each of the characters
that escaped From the ship. It's also gives them
a good time to kind of Introduce us to the characters
and kind of do a little character building and
you know to see where they're going with like,
you know Where the hierarchy of the of the team
is, you know, which character does is this person
which characters that person? You know, and so
we're learning about the characters, too don't
know it's just one of those things that I'm like
yeah I wouldn't I kind of wish that they'd be
having something different to kind of combat
every single time but it's kind of been their
flavor we're gonna sit there and and I'm like
okay well we'll just ride this until it exhausts
itself and then hopefully there'll be other things
on the end of that yeah so with the comic here
the first page we see the prison ship crash we
see well we see the or it's kind of like it's
like preview without being the preview yeah um
and the funniest thing is all is i can all is
i can hear in john's little um narrations here
is thundercats on the loose oh boy so we have
the team assemble we have decepticons on the
loose The issue starts with a fire and a bunch
of firemen now in the show So far to this point
in the series Don't think the humans have ever
really like they've been around humans Obviously,
they're around Denny and Russell but like like
a city at large like firefighters or policemen
or something no one of Authority has really seen
the transformers yet in the series Just Denny,
who was the adult out of the whole thing. Well,
yeah. But that's what I'm saying. Well, he is
kind of an adult. Not really. He's a fun adult.
He's like us, you know? Oh boy. Wow. Alrighty
then. There's nothing wrong with that. I know
what you're thinking. Well, you know, because,
hey, we're all kids at heart, you know, but we're
all responsible adults, you know. We are three
adults reading a comic here geared towards six
to 10 year old readers. I think we could say
we're like Danny. Oh, boy. So we've got a fire
in the forest. Hey, kids, forest fires. Yeah.
um and the firemen you know are trying to figure
out and get their gear together to fight this
fire and then all of a sudden the bottom panel
we hear stomp stomp stomp this is the appropriate
time to bring smoky the baron here to say fairlock
only you can prevent forest fires that would
be awesome and we see the Or better yet, we could
turn Grimlock into Smokey the Bear. Put him in
overalls and a hat. There you go. So as we turn
the page, we see the narration from one of the
firefighters saying, there's nothing going to
come around and stomp out the fire and save the
day. And guess what Grimlock is saying? Stomp,
stomp, stomp, stomp the fire, save the day. The
title of the story is Fire When Ready. Grimlock
John is really nailing his character. I am kind
of Skeptical on Grimlock in the show because
there are certain times where he just doesn't
I Don't know it just doesn't hit me right, but
he's a big teddy bear. I love him Well, he's
wrecking things, and that's kind of your thing.
That's kind of my thing. But, you know, surprisingly
enough, when I was at Phoenix Comic Con, because
Adam Beecham was there, we had a panel and everything,
everybody loved Grimlock. Like, he got the biggest
reaction from everybody on the panel, or everybody
in the room that was there for the panel. So
it was just kind of like, ah, yeah, Grimlock.
Everybody likes Grimlock. Just gonna say I love
him for a big toothy grin and the fact that he
you know wrecks things too He's the wrecker in
the group, although he doesn't know it yet So
they're trying to get the fire out and we have
strong arm being hurt, you know Stick up the
butt officer kind of thing She started to slightly
release her hold on that slightly I can't even
compare her to Prowl because I think she's like
Prowl turned up to like not not in his way that
he's in the other comics but just he's like the
rule book is like the word of God yes that's
a good way of saying it She's got all the rule
book -ness of Prowl and yeah, you just yeah.
And the OCD -ness of Filtrum Magnus. Yes, but
it's like really turned up. I like the episode
where she's like scratching herself because she's
like got that nervous tick. Yeah, that was that
was pretty cool. So in and I just thought of
this... If people, we all know, everybody ships
characters, okay? If people ever ship her in
Side Swipe because they're constantly bickering
at each other on the cartoon series, their ship
name should be Sidearm. Well, if they ever have
a proto baby that's gonna be I guess that's more
of James department So we are introduced or the
The new readers to the series are introduced
to Strongarm, Grimlock, Fix -It, Bumblebee, and
Sideswipe, along with Denny and his son, Russell.
Rusty! Sorry. And I think John wrote this really
for us, even like for those people that have
already seen the show, because the scene here
where... Bumblebee says hang tight starring arm.
I'll just grab side swipe and will will wear
a side swipe and both Denny and and Bumblebee
you don't see them, but you see the word You
know yelling off panel side swipe and he and
Russell are off and running I Love Priscilla's
art. Why has she not been a full -time artist
before? other artists that are established she
has been on other things she's just been doing
coloring yeah but I mean like actual you know
the actual art so we get into the standard argument
of why the kids should not go on the mission
and know it's too dangerous and you know oh but
it looks fun and all this and all that We have
For fix it this wire needs surveillance graciousness
maintenance see fun Poor guy I remember when
he was first announced and shown off the entire
internet just like threw their hands up and said,
Oh my God, I give up. Cause they're like, I don't
know. I just remember a whole lot of people not
being happy with fix it being a part of the team.
Yeah. The internet rages all the time. Don't
judge it till you see it. People complain all
the time about stuff that they don't know about.
I mean, I, I, I get it. Go back to animated people
were up in arms. about the animation style and
how ridiculous certain characters are going to
be. By the end of the series, pretty much every
Transformers fan loved that show. We were all
sad to see it go. Uh -huh. And they were up in
arms again when they tried to do that. Exactly.
It's a fickle fandom. It always will be. All
right, so we get, as we go along here, we get
to the point where the villain of the issue,
Flamefeather, always Autobots. Well, if you can't
avoid them, burn them. Flamefeather is a bird
who breathes fire. He's essentially a fire -breathing
dragon, except he's a bird. Yeah, hence the Flamefeather.
Cuz all the good names are taken Yeah, well you
can't have a third take or Burning tank or Well,
there's you know fat tank or what was the other
tank or Tall tank or tall tank or a fat tank
or burning tank or there you go Nicole what do
you think of the story so far here? It's not
too bad. It goes along. We'll see, because I've
been watching the show when this came out. So
it wasn't anything new to me. So I couldn't really
say, oh, it's got my complete attention. No,
I think it's fun. You can see the personalities
in all the bots. And Russell and Danny, yeah.
Fix it. His eyes are just adorable. He's so cute.
Yeah, so far, so far, so good. What about you,
Amy, overall for the story? I have to agree with
most of what, with everything that Nicole said.
It's really fun. It's definitely something I'd
be like, hey, I would definitely get this for
my kids because they were like, hey, at that
age, it's the target audience. So it definitely
works for me. And it is it goes right along with
the show. I mean, this is this is something I
could very easily see as an episode. Oh, yeah.
And the art is just fantastic. I just want to
give Purcell a big hug and say thank you so much.
It's awesome. And they have to scour the playground
for a fire breathing bird. I want to see this
issue. as an episode, just to see how they would
animate and show us the map that Priscilla drew
with all the character heads. See, this right
here? This is my favorite part of this. I think
this map, this double page map is just adorable
and fun. And yeah, I really like this part. You
got Grimlock munching on dino burgers. Yeah,
this is just so fun. Does that make him a cannibal?
Potentially, yeah So they've got to split up
and search and find flame feather They eventually
do find him and a Major fight kind of ensues
and basically Grimlock covertly stomps flame
feather. Okay, I feel sorry for this poor con
Because he just wants to go home. That's all
he doesn't want to cause a ruckus. He just wants
to get home I feel sorry for the guy and these
Autobots They're the villains of this story because
I go we're gonna take him down. He just wants
to go home Don't hurt him Let's forget the part
that they're criminals. Well, yeah, he just wants
to go home. But he's a criminal. Yeah. We've
all made mistakes. He's okay. I know I'm never
ladies and gentlemen listening to this. I know
I'm never going to get this through Nicole's
head because she is a Decepticon sympathizer.
He is a Decepticon villain bad guy. Who basically
is igniting forest fires. What about Knockout?
Grimlock is a Decepticon still. He still hasn't
gone through his little ceremony to make him
an Autobot. So he should be locked up too. He's
dumb and gullible enough to be fooled into being
a good guy. Maybe Flamefeather could be that
same way. They're just not giving him a chance.
So this one ends with Ends with them looking
at a weird statue and We get an internal monologue
here saying that that could have gone better.
Flamefeather's down, and now Bubblebee and his
team are involved. When I first sat here and
read this, I'm like, who the hell is, before
I turned the page, obviously, who the hell is
saying this? And lo and behold, robots in disguise
meet Transformers Prime. We've got Bullhead,
Ultra Magnus, and RC. This is so cool. This is
what made this. This this I want to say episodes
comic yeah issue Yeah, it really really did Because
we have no idea why they're here. It's a good
hook It's a really good hook especially your
fans of the first of the last one You know like
hey, I wonder if the other characters could be
in this And boom, then we have the comic who's
like, oh, we're going to get a crossover. Yes.
Yeah. And we get at the bottom, To Be Continued
in Transformers or Robots in Disguise number
one, available at comic book stores everywhere
in July. And it even gives us the cover to the
first issue here. Reporting for beauty, snooty,
duty. Why are Ultra Magnus and Arcee in bulkhead
on Earth? Will they be friend or foe to Team
B? Find out this July in Robots of the Sky's
number one. Overall, this is a fun little issue.
There's even a little letter back here from John,
John Barber. I absolutely love that. There's
even an added little comic here at the top of
the letter page. Yeah, I thought that was cute.
The art on this little thing is done by Travis
single single us and the colors are done by Priscilla.
I Really dug this issue I Really did I thought
this was so cool. I am so glad they're doing
this It's very solid very solid Fits right into
the universe. I mean quite literally this could
just be an episode that we an XO episode excerpt
From from the show, but the fact that they put
the Transformers Prime characters in it makes
me go. Oh, are they do that the show? Probably
not, but you never know they could have a you
know One of the characters maybe eventually I
don't know they could do pretty much anything
with it. It's so new and everything they could
have a a sneak preview or not a sneak preview,
but They could have an episode where one of the
characters just play a role for like a short
time and then go back to wherever they're going.
Like Drift, you know? Oh no. Okay, anyway. We're
not gonna make any comments on that, no? Transformers,
Robots in Disguise, the comic and the cartoon
are brand new. The cartoon is in the Prime Universe
as is at the beginning of this episode, so...
who knows what's gonna happen with the cartoon
who knows who's gonna show up and like amy said
it could just be for an episode or so uh... but
i do think they're also going to bring in completely
on uh... they've kind of have brought in completely
unknown characters every single decepticon that
has been the show to this point uh... because
they're all they're all new characters no predacons
either not yet The only characters that we really
know are Bumblebee and Optimus Prime. That's
about it. Everybody else is just brand new. Well,
yeah, you're right. I would say Sideswipe is
another consistent character, but this version
of Sideswipe is new to us, but the name and the
carc and all that. And Grimlock is a different
Grimlock than the one we've known, too. Although
I have to say he still has that wrecker personality.
And you know what I just realized the reason
why he probably is gonna become a wrecker He's
a green fucking dinosaur He's the wrecker color
green No, there's nothing wrong with that, but
I just now looking at the cover again, I'm like,
oh boy Amy what would you rate this issue? Oh,
it's a solid four Okay Nicole I'd say that, too.
It was a lot of fun. Between the two -page spread
and that last page where the prime character,
what are they thinking? What are they doing?
Why is Ultra Magnus, you know, like, what are
they going to do to this other team? That's what's
got me intrigued. That's what's going to make
me want to read the next issue. Or B. In fact,
they're friends with B. Yeah. And so why are
they going after him? It's that he won't understand
what we're doing, you know? He's our friend,
Ultra Magnus. There's no reason to be mad at
each other. We can work together again. RC, tuck
some sense into him. Sorry, bulkhead. What we're
doing is too important to let friendship get
in the way. Yeah, that's just... I just can't
see RC saying that, but okay. I can see her saying
it. But they're saying friendship. I'd say there
was more of a family vibe when Transformers Prime
ended. But we don't know what has changed between
Transformers Prime ending and Robots in Disguise
picking up, so. True. We'll see. It's enough
to suspend my disbelief, so that it's possible
that, you know, hey. I'm gonna give it a four
and a half Really love Priscilla's art and colors
and all that and I like John's writing I really
do But I really thought that this was gonna be
George's debut And I wanted to see like the whole
point for me for free comic book day for getting
this was oh I'm gonna see a new writer. I want
to see how they write these cuz We've seen John
writes nearly everything for the most part, or
you know, one or two issues of kickstarting something.
I understand why he's on here. I don't have a
problem with that, but I really wanted to see
and judge Georgia Ball as a writer on this issue
zero more so than John, because I already know
what to expect from John when it comes to his
writing. But absolutely, I mean, this is a fun,
fun issue. It's gonna be a fun series. Can't
wait to do more of these. And it's gonna be interesting
to see, as we've already said, what other characters
show up in the comic. All right, folks, I think
that's going to do it. Where can the people find
you online, Amy? You can find me on Twitter,
at ladyofrack. Nicole. Find me on Twitter at
Beatles diva. That's Beatles like and that's
bug Alright folks that's gonna do it for this
issue of this episode of the pull bag and join
us next time when I have no idea What the hell
is gonna be on the episode make your greatest
gaming to comics and we will catch you next time
Bye -bye Fix it back to the ship and get that
cell ready Russell stay here with sides way everyone
else We're a team now, and we're all that stands
between underbite and the loss of a lot of innocent
lives. So let's do what we have to do. Roll up
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