The Pull Bag
Sex Criminals Volume 2 Review

About this Episode
Ladies and gentlemen this back issue classics
episode of the pull bag is very explicit in a
sexual nature Jeremy fine and I TF2 and Mike
are going back to image comics sex criminals
series and we will be reviewing volume to two
worlds and one cop From image comics. So this
is not safe work. This is basically not safe
for anybody It's going to be discussing sexual
Acts in detail well not so much detail, but you
get it Very very explicit content coming up here
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That's the name of the book I get They named
the Drake paperback? I mean... I know the word
for it, so I just said it. We're not going to
be talking about it, yeah. Wouldn't that be something
we're going to be talking about on that stage?
On this podcast? No. No. No. We do not need to,
uh... Yes. No. Not at all. I mean, if - I mean,
if my, uh, spell checker decides that, hey, Skywalker
needs to be Stalker, then there's something wrong,
then we're not going to be talking about - one
cup and whatever else but yeah two worlds one
cup um trying to remember when was sex criminals
volume one it was oh let's see it was feels like
it was oh you're right it was november 19 2014
volume one yeah what's happening at this time
and i heard rumors of a tv show I've heard from
others at the movie. Here's the thing, too. I've
looked at Suze now, and she kind of reminds me
a little bit of the TV show we watched now. And
I thought that maybe she was going to be part
of the way that she moves her head back and forth
in the first couple of panels of the story. But
I don't know if they're still moving on with
the TV show, who they're casting. Yep. Um, and
this - this truth may be back, but let's issue
six to tell a big hit. Image comic series. I
had to go back at least three pre -issue five
to figure out where we ended up the original
trait and the original stories in the first part
of the first arc and I was surprised that this
one began like like with them at home. I don't
know It just kinda surprised me. This trade paperback
folks has five issues. We're not gonna be able
to get through all of this. We're not gonna break
this down bit by bit by bit. You know. I think
we just give like a short song of each one. Which
would be excess. Because here's the thing. I
didn't go back to sex. I had it in my mind mostly.
I knew that these two characters discovered sexuality
differently and... Suze was, like, more interested.
She kind of told me why, like, when she had a
orgasm and John thought that, you know, it was,
like, he didn't understand - It was com -moral.
It was an amusement park, yeah. Yeah, and we
didn't - and that's how they kind of got rid
of the sex a lot with us. Because she wasn't
talking about sex. There was, like, a little
girl from Asking About Sex, you know. As I've
said, I'm subscribed to a website called Beautiful
Action, where people talk about orgasm. And they
- have one with just the neck up, and after they
have the work out, and they confess, they talk
about their sexuality, how they discover themselves,
and whatnot. It's safe to say that I've tried
to interview the host of the site. Unfortunately,
they're in Australia, so I'm still trying to
work this out, but my point here is I like to
use two characters who are interested in trying
to discover their sexuality, and the commitment
and the orgasm at the same time. time with all
these dogs, they robbed the bank, and unfortunately
the sex thieves came out of nowhere, and they
had a, like, you know, the way this issue opens
is that the source is trying to, you know, break
the fourth wall, bring the readers back up to
speed with these girls, and apparently they're
kind of sort of a couple, the sex thieves is
not following them, and they've given some money
back that they've stolen, but they apparently
owe $12 ,000 that they're going to try to raise
legally. to keep a healthy conscience and a sense
of space around it and leave them alone, they
can remain as a couple. But the thing is, John
is gray, so to speak, because there are two Johns.
There is one that wants to be adventurous, and
there is the other one who knows about the past,
and he pretty much doesn't want to deal with
anything. It's just like, well, I've had sex,
it's terrible. Like that movie we're partying
from there, an alien has to come here and try
to eat a woman, and then once the mission is
over, he wants something to do with the woman.
And that's pretty much the job. He's just in
the gray, he's reading a graphic novel that I
guess is supposed to be like the one that we're
supposed to be reading. And then every now and
then, the colorized John wants to live, and the
gray John is just like a shrug of the conservative
post -modern John. And this is where I kind of
start to turn my back on this organized character.
They were coming out of the show, so they couldn't
speak, and then all of a sudden you have, like,
Grave John, Apathy John, Empathetic John, no,
Apathy John, you know, Gung Ho John, and Soothe
doesn't know what she's doing, and it's just,
I could not stand Grave John. I, I wasn't, yeah,
when I was reading this, I wasn't sure what I
was, like, I bought this ophthalmology once,
once ago when I originally wanted to do it in
early January but we just didn't get around to
doing it and I saw I've had it, had it, had it
and I haven't really picked it up, I haven't
really looked at it or whatever else. When I
went to read it about a week ago, I was like,
wow, this is completely different from what the
first five issues are. The first five issues
were fun, they were comical this is like exploring
their emotions more so than anything else at
this point and it's really getting dark It's
like, you get these sick sounds that are like
attracting, it gets to sex stories that are attracting
Susie and John every time they ever work out
and the quiet people come about and look at the
colors and the quiet. Susie's going into it,
but then John is like, for some reason, he's
becoming a tendon. And I don't know what the
symbolism is, is that he's trying to grow up
and she wants to still be like... Ravage with
a sex life and I'm never quite sure but it got
to the point. I just didn't care Issue six is
really really coming off Coming off of issue
five way back when in the first trade, I will
say that Issue number six all of the covers here.
I love all the covers. I think all the covers
are just a basic issue six covers basically Orange,
black, and white. With John and Suze, John being
in orange, Suzy being in black. I like that.
I love Zdarsky's art. I think Zdarsky's art is
what saves this book. Fraction's writing, I just
don't like the direction like you. I'm very unsure
of the direction when I first read issue 6 here.
When we get to issue 7, That is when it kind
of got interesting for me because you have the
reintroduction of her friend Rach or Rach or
whatever her name is supposed to be Rachelle,
I don't even know. And I can just wonder, wasn't
Rachelle supposed to be part of the sex police
or their informant or something or other? I think
she is, but I think it's also that she's developing
a crush on him too because I think we're going
to get to where she wants to get involved with
him. Yeah. As this story progresses, we have
a whole bunch of the Quiet Come World moments.
We have all this stuff going on. We have John
talking about his emotions. We have him basically
beating somebody up with a bill bill. Um, we...
It wasn't South Park Pacific Truth that had a
bill bill about it, but that's what he said in
the comic book, so I'm okay with that. Yeah.
Um, issue seven is really... I think it's because
they were trying to go back to the post -Five
issues, you know, having to work as them slow
down time, John trying to figure out what Marisha's
really doing, and other people are trying to
get into the quiet, and John using a bull -bone
as a, you know, double -edged lightsaber from
episode one. Again, this is something we could
stop for, to stick the truth to, but I'm going
to go and use it as a weapon. So, I kind of like
that idea, but we're getting cryptic answers,
and the problem is with the race. I don't know
if she's an undercover cop, or she was trying
to break free because she wants to join in the
client with Suze and John, but John pretty much
admits that he screwed up horribly about going
back in his life because, again, they have that
compass. So every time he activates it, sex really
is dropping down. So I think he used the Quiet
one too many times to get some information, but...
Yeah, he goes into the Quiet at Issue 7. Once
he's in the income world, he goes to the house
of the head sex -police chick and basically finds
all his files and steals all his files. That's
where, you know, fighting this other guy with
Dildo comes in. And, you know, the Issue 7 kind
of ends with him basically saying that... You
know, he says, you know, and I stole everything
I could carry and then that's where Rage comes
in and it kind of ends. We get to issue 8, which
is entitled Robert Rainbow. Yeah. And we're introduced
to Dr. Robert Rainbow. He is Suzy's new OBGYN.
Apparently he's also an old friend of John's
or something. I'm just not - I enjoyed reading
this second volume, this - these next - I enjoyed
reading them, I enjoyed finding out the story,
I enjoyed being introduced to new characters
and new, different - they're basically introducing
adults to different ways of bondage and all this
and all that and everything else. But honestly,
I did not laugh. this entire trade the con it's
it's it's like met fraction took the first five
issues and that was a that was a comedy play
and now this is fractions version of the shakespeare
tragedy or something in these next five here
with issues six to ten it just doesn't you know
what it is You know, love stories are most tragic,
where the guy's in love with a girl, they make
a break, but when they finally do get back together,
they have to eat each other's shit. And I think
the biggest problem is that now they're going
to be struggling with all these idiotic sex jokes,
and I think they're going way too long with Susan,
Dr. Rainbow, and then of course we have to have
the interns looking at her, and I'm like, she
turns and looks. at the audience ago, so this
is happening. I mean, I'll be honest with you.
There was an episode of The Simpsons where Bart
broke his lower spine. He had to wear a cast
on his rear end. And what happened was, you know,
Dr. Hibbett said, well, yeah, here are my implants.
You're going to look at the stickers, Bart. I
just couldn't get any more humiliating. And I'm
thinking to myself, it was an incident mainly
because it's an older woman voicing a 10 -year
-old boy. and other people looking at it, but
I'm like, it's either a fetish, or something
so wrong with us, and to have people looking
at Susie's vagina and her saying blah blah blah,
it just is, and not only that, but we did make
this poster of Spencer the Spagoria, and he says,
let's take a look, shall we? I'm sorry, but this
is just stupid. This is not social commentary.
This is not funny, this is not pitch, it's just,
it's Suzy's cervix, it's the intern's, and in
all honesty, it's just stupid. So as this issue
progresses, we see John meeting up with Robert
Rainbow and Suzy, we see Robert Rainbow's origins,
which, as a new character, I'm glad they took
the time to explain his origin, I thought that
was really cool. We see that John is still having
issues and uh he's trying to go to therapy but
apparently the therapist just doesn't care about
anything he's saying he basically you know screams
up the real food court because who the hell first
of all who the hell goes to a ball therapist
come on now um as he screams out there's a guy
in the food court who apparently is a real therapist
that likes to listen and help him with his problems
so that happens um and that's kind of how this
one ends It actually ends with Suzie going ballistic
because apparently they've destroyed her library.
Yeah, that's right, but she wants to save the
library. But the good thing is that John and
Suzie kind of get back together because as we
see, even though she spent some time with Rainbow,
we see them holding hands. He will jump ahead,
he will try to say, I love you. But I do know
the panel where they're knocking down the librarian.
John is just like holding Sue's back, and she's
crying and screaming, and the construction workers
are just like, you know, turning their heads
back and looking at her like they don't give
a shit. And I hope that, that's how it ends.
You know, she kind of, she loses something, and
that's the whole thing about love, like when
you're willing to give up for love, and unfortunately,
Sue's eight lost all of her. And issue nine is
essentially them. I'm trying to figure out why
they have all these files. It's also the introduction
of several different characters, including therapists.
Oh, well, this... Dr. Anakin -Kate. It's essentially,
this entire issue is Dr. Anakin -Kate's origin
story. We do have John and Susie going around
dealing with their issues, but, you know, by
the middle of this, we see all of Dr. Anakin
-Kate's origin, which, again, I like. I like
the taking. They've taken two issues now. Issue
eight and issue nine. Issue eight is essentially
Robert Rainbow's introduction. Issue nine is
Dr. Anna Cain's introduction. And I really enjoy
that. I love Zdarsky's art. Making the quiet
or comfortable or whatever you want to call it,
making it bright, shiny, and super colorful compared
to what the book usually is. It's very unique
kind of colors. I love that contrast. I really
do. Oh, it's a great way to write, so I'll give
it that. Alright, got to complete, um... You
know what it is? I always feel that it's comic
books that they, maybe it was Frank Miller that
didn't write psychiatrists, but I always feel
that in pop culture, comic book writers, the
most, do not like psychiatrists. They have a
lot of problems. As a matter of fact, what a
hole. I interviewed... writer who put together
a cover called Gateway Runners, where the first
few pages, you know, the main characters bashing
the psychiatrists, and I asked him, and then
I said, you know, frighten me when I notice that
someone psychiatristically bashed them, and then,
you know, Batman, Barbara Cobb, you know, you're
having a take on them, and sex criminals. Like,
what did you feel with psychiatrists? Is it because,
you know, of their egos, is it because you didn't
have the answers or anything? Like, why do you,
you know, like, psychiatrists so much? The only
mysterious that I seem to be getting is that
they don't hate psychiatrists, but sometimes
I feel like maybe they do have the answers, but
then they kind of call it a life of their own
and their master. And I feel, you know, with
this Dr. Jade character, I couldn't go on to
go too many times to deal with someone like this,
but there is a great movie for get your pants
on before the Martians go home. Yeah, there's
supposed to be this girl who's a male psychiatrist,
and the Martian has come down there because she's
sick and tired of all things lying, so this Martian
pretty much discredits the psychiatrist and the
psychiatrist's waiting room with all her patience,
and she breaks character, like, she was this
girl who's not a psychiatrist, and then she starts
to, like, drop her, you know, her voice, and
she gives her real accent, and she just becomes
like this, you know, this sex slave, then again.
So... I guess that's what this is trying for
me to take on. I don't know. I mean, like I said,
I like her origin. I think it's interesting how
she came up. Because what I like about this whole
second arc here is how they're basically introducing
other people that can also be in the Quiet or
Come World or whatever you want to call it. And
this one, issue nine, kind of ends on them, on
all three of them, John, Susie, and Anna. Basically,
it ends on Susie telling her about the Quiet
and whatever else. As we get to the final issue
of the trade, issue 10, that is John with his
psychiatrist at first. We then go back to Susie
and Hannah and John with all this. We find out
that as all three of them are having sex, obviously
Anna's doing it one way, and John and Susie are
doing it another way. They're not having a threesome,
essentially, but they kind of are at the same
time. It's kind of... I don't want to say existential,
but it's... See, the show... I don't think he'd
feel, as she said in the last issue, that she
feels starved, and she's insatiable, and she
can't reach, you know, satisfaction the way she
wanted to, and she's a transsexual man. went
in, and she's been with twice, and she's, you
know, we've seen how she, you know, experiments
with both male and female, but she doesn't understand
why she can't reach pleasure every single time.
The only happiness once was alone, and it kind
of bothers her that she wants it to be quiet.
I guess when she discovers what Susan John had
done, she wants her to call it a whirlpool, and
John's psychiatrist is trying to take everything
away that John has learned. So... She doesn't...
it's not so much that she wants to ever face
them, it's just that she wants to be as quiet
as she could 24 -7 and never come back. So the
problem is... Yeah, the problem is that I don't
know if she's trying to break them up, at this
point of view, that one of them will be 12 of
them. That's what I didn't get. I don't think
she's trying to do anything to them, specifically.
She's, as you already said, she's just trying
to find her own way of pleasuring for herself
only. I mean, it's not, you know... I don't think
it has anything to do with her trying to break
them up at all. I think she just wants to be
able to join in on the fun and actually get pleasure
out of having sex with herself. In this issue,
we also have Robert and Rach... Getting together
and talking like you already mentioned the psychiatrist
stuff or the John's therapist stuff This one
ends on them, all three of them, John, Susie,
and Anna ending up in come all together And then
we go to the sex police. The final page is the
sex police saying oh well we're not the real
police but you know We'll do this this this this
this to basically stop them from whatever they're
doing It just kind of leaves it on a really weird
limit. I have another question. Can she turn
to a sex ghost? Because I see the show goes,
you know, Bopper can see another guy on the phone
and all of a sudden it's like, she goes like...
Wait, aren't you near a sex ghost too? Like,
is that what she's turned into? Or... No, she
assumed that... So she drops the phone, she asks,
you know, did it work? Did it work? I can't tell.
What does it look like? Wait, we're not weird
sex ghosts, too? And it's something completely,
like, John and Susie are themselves humans. She
is, like, a naked, like, if there was ever a
naked version of her, synergy on her chest. I
mean, yeah, she's just completely clear. There's
color to her, but there isn't color on her anywhere.
She's essentially a blonde ghost at this point,
where in real life, she's a brunette. So I'm
not sure what the hell happened here, what's
going on. I think it's going to make for an interesting,
you know, story as we, you know, as we go further
with the, you know, Next time we do one of these
will be whenever volume 3 actually releases.
I don't know when. I think they're on issue 12
or 13 by now. But I'm not too sure. So in the
trade we have variant covers. I just, I really
love how some of these variant covers look. They're
really awesome. There's no coverage of the Christian
house either in John and Trash, because you can't
remember in 1960s. You know, and of course we
get to have sex. It almost looks like the one
where they're chasing each other, the orange
one with the light balls around it. It almost
seems like a weird, catch me if you can kind
of image. Yeah, and of course we have all the
sex tips. Playboy's interview with that ship
and that's that's I have not read this this little
um ending here um neither have I you know but
I mean overall the story I did like it I was
a little confused at times with what the hell
was actually going on I'll say this I missed
the fun of the first five issues I missed the
comedy of it all so I'm hoping as we continue
The comedy will come back, because that's really
what I'm missing at this point. I have to give
this a 2 out of 5, because here's the 5. I'm
not in a relationship right now, and the ones
I've been in have been weak. You know, I'm glad
that it's not just about sex, and that's a good
thing. But the problem is, is that I have to
be invested in these characters. to hear about
their sex life and what's going on. And John
and Suze were interested in the first few issues
because we found out how they misbehave with
sex, what they can do with their sexuality, and
what they're like when they're not having sex.
And Suze cares about saving a long story. John,
he is a freak over to anybody because he just
had a bad relationship with several people, I
can understand, like with his family. But they
find each other because of They have one thing
in common, they want a whole lot of love, and
that's great. And now, it's that, and I've said
this hundreds of times, in an e -pop culture
setting, the characters have to live up for a
while because the powers of being free for them
to continue to see characters break away from
each other. They're not going to see each other.
They're not going to see each other. They're
going to work on a TV show. They barely work
on Big Bang Theory, and I'm getting so sick and
tired of this crap. So, the issue of using a
different character as an actor contained this
interesting viewpoint, and I'll keep trying to
figure out what to do with it, but for now, these
issues are just for the hell of it. I don't really
need to do something with the library. Other
than demolishing it, it could've been so much
more of a trying to reverse time and saving and
going back and going back to the future 2 moments.
There were so many things that could have gone
both quick and quiet, and all it came down to
is John being too cheeky, and she could say how
much she loves Suze, and almost losing Suze,
and just introducing the character that just
wants to literally be an acquired 24 -7, so I've
had problems on this one. I, like I said, I enjoyed
it, like, past, like, once we got to issue 8,
issue 6 and 7 were a little rough, but once we
got to issue 8, I really started enjoying the
story. Overall, I love Sadarski's Arts. The entire
trade was absolutely amazing. For me, I'm going
to give it a 3 out of 5. I can't go as low as
a 2. I do wish that the comedy was there a little
bit more, and the irony was there a little bit
more. I do enjoy the origin stories for Robert
Rainbow and Anakin Kane. I thought that was really
cool. I am interested to see where they go from
here. So, I am still going to be reading this
series, like I said, next time, you know, when
I pick up the trade for volume 3, whenever that
gets around, coming out, we will do another sex
couples podcast, but for right now, I'm just...
I'm glad we're doing this in trade and not single
issue coverage, because I think if we were doing
this in single issue coverage, issue 6 and 7
would have made me walk away from the series
entirely. But right now, I'm... someone optimistic
about the future of sex for a while, so we'll
just have to wait and see what happens. Yeah,
I was hoping it was a way from just like, going
to some trash. Okay. Yeah. Alright, then. Alright,
folks. Coming up next is going to be Jeremy and
I talking about IDW's comic adaptation of Angel
Season 5, Smile Time. So join us for that, and
after that we've got Robin Hood Month coming
up in Zuniscope Entertainment. At the end of
Robin Hood Month, I'm hoping to have an interview
with the author, Patrick Shan, so look for that
as well. Most likely the end of July, beginning
of August, hopefully. So that's what's coming
up here in the whole bag. I am trying to do as
many different coverages as I can, as far as
what we cover. There's gonna be a lot of cool
stuff coming up, so stay tuned for that. Thank
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