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Sex Criminals Volume 2 Review

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Jeremy and TFG1Mike review Sex Criminals Vol. 2: Two Worlds One Cop from Image Comics, covering issues 6–10. The hosts discuss the tonal shift from the comedy of the first volume to a darker, more emotionally complex narrative, the introduction of new characters like Dr. Robert Rainbow and Dr. Anna-Kate, and the evolving dynamics between Suzie and John. They praise Chip Zdarsky's artwork throughout but express mixed feelings about Matt Fraction's direction with the story, noting the loss of humor and struggling to connect with some character choices. Both reviewers give their final ratings and express hope for the series' future.

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sexual nature Jeremy fine and I TF2 and Mike

are going back to image comics sex criminals

series and we will be reviewing volume to two

worlds and one cop From image comics. So this

is not safe work. This is basically not safe

for anybody It's going to be discussing sexual

Acts in detail well not so much detail, but you

get it Very very explicit content coming up here

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That's the name of the book I get They named

the Drake paperback? I mean... I know the word

for it, so I just said it. We're not going to

be talking about it, yeah. Wouldn't that be something

we're going to be talking about on that stage?

On this podcast? No. No. No. We do not need to,

uh... Yes. No. Not at all. I mean, if - I mean,

if my, uh, spell checker decides that, hey, Skywalker

needs to be Stalker, then there's something wrong,

then we're not going to be talking about - one

cup and whatever else but yeah two worlds one

cup um trying to remember when was sex criminals

volume one it was oh let's see it was feels like

it was oh you're right it was november 19 2014

volume one yeah what's happening at this time

and i heard rumors of a tv show I've heard from

others at the movie. Here's the thing, too. I've

looked at Suze now, and she kind of reminds me

a little bit of the TV show we watched now. And

I thought that maybe she was going to be part

of the way that she moves her head back and forth

in the first couple of panels of the story. But

I don't know if they're still moving on with

the TV show, who they're casting. Yep. Um, and

this - this truth may be back, but let's issue

six to tell a big hit. Image comic series. I

had to go back at least three pre -issue five

to figure out where we ended up the original

trait and the original stories in the first part

of the first arc and I was surprised that this

one began like like with them at home. I don't

know It just kinda surprised me. This trade paperback

folks has five issues. We're not gonna be able

to get through all of this. We're not gonna break

this down bit by bit by bit. You know. I think

we just give like a short song of each one. Which

would be excess. Because here's the thing. I

didn't go back to sex. I had it in my mind mostly.

I knew that these two characters discovered sexuality

differently and... Suze was, like, more interested.

She kind of told me why, like, when she had a

orgasm and John thought that, you know, it was,

like, he didn't understand - It was com -moral.

It was an amusement park, yeah. Yeah, and we

didn't - and that's how they kind of got rid

of the sex a lot with us. Because she wasn't

talking about sex. There was, like, a little

girl from Asking About Sex, you know. As I've

said, I'm subscribed to a website called Beautiful

Action, where people talk about orgasm. And they

- have one with just the neck up, and after they

have the work out, and they confess, they talk

about their sexuality, how they discover themselves,

and whatnot. It's safe to say that I've tried

to interview the host of the site. Unfortunately,

they're in Australia, so I'm still trying to

work this out, but my point here is I like to

use two characters who are interested in trying

to discover their sexuality, and the commitment

and the orgasm at the same time. time with all

these dogs, they robbed the bank, and unfortunately

the sex thieves came out of nowhere, and they

had a, like, you know, the way this issue opens

is that the source is trying to, you know, break

the fourth wall, bring the readers back up to

speed with these girls, and apparently they're

kind of sort of a couple, the sex thieves is

not following them, and they've given some money

back that they've stolen, but they apparently

owe $12 ,000 that they're going to try to raise

legally. to keep a healthy conscience and a sense

of space around it and leave them alone, they

can remain as a couple. But the thing is, John

is gray, so to speak, because there are two Johns.

There is one that wants to be adventurous, and

there is the other one who knows about the past,

and he pretty much doesn't want to deal with

anything. It's just like, well, I've had sex,

it's terrible. Like that movie we're partying

from there, an alien has to come here and try

to eat a woman, and then once the mission is

over, he wants something to do with the woman.

And that's pretty much the job. He's just in

the gray, he's reading a graphic novel that I

guess is supposed to be like the one that we're

supposed to be reading. And then every now and

then, the colorized John wants to live, and the

gray John is just like a shrug of the conservative

post -modern John. And this is where I kind of

start to turn my back on this organized character.

They were coming out of the show, so they couldn't

speak, and then all of a sudden you have, like,

Grave John, Apathy John, Empathetic John, no,

Apathy John, you know, Gung Ho John, and Soothe

doesn't know what she's doing, and it's just,

I could not stand Grave John. I, I wasn't, yeah,

when I was reading this, I wasn't sure what I

was, like, I bought this ophthalmology once,

once ago when I originally wanted to do it in

early January but we just didn't get around to

doing it and I saw I've had it, had it, had it

and I haven't really picked it up, I haven't

really looked at it or whatever else. When I

went to read it about a week ago, I was like,

wow, this is completely different from what the

first five issues are. The first five issues

were fun, they were comical this is like exploring

their emotions more so than anything else at

this point and it's really getting dark It's

like, you get these sick sounds that are like

attracting, it gets to sex stories that are attracting

Susie and John every time they ever work out

and the quiet people come about and look at the

colors and the quiet. Susie's going into it,

but then John is like, for some reason, he's

becoming a tendon. And I don't know what the

symbolism is, is that he's trying to grow up

and she wants to still be like... Ravage with

a sex life and I'm never quite sure but it got

to the point. I just didn't care Issue six is

really really coming off Coming off of issue

five way back when in the first trade, I will

say that Issue number six all of the covers here.

I love all the covers. I think all the covers

are just a basic issue six covers basically Orange,

black, and white. With John and Suze, John being

in orange, Suzy being in black. I like that.

I love Zdarsky's art. I think Zdarsky's art is

what saves this book. Fraction's writing, I just

don't like the direction like you. I'm very unsure

of the direction when I first read issue 6 here.

When we get to issue 7, That is when it kind

of got interesting for me because you have the

reintroduction of her friend Rach or Rach or

whatever her name is supposed to be Rachelle,

I don't even know. And I can just wonder, wasn't

Rachelle supposed to be part of the sex police

or their informant or something or other? I think

she is, but I think it's also that she's developing

a crush on him too because I think we're going

to get to where she wants to get involved with

him. Yeah. As this story progresses, we have

a whole bunch of the Quiet Come World moments.

We have all this stuff going on. We have John

talking about his emotions. We have him basically

beating somebody up with a bill bill. Um, we...

It wasn't South Park Pacific Truth that had a

bill bill about it, but that's what he said in

the comic book, so I'm okay with that. Yeah.

Um, issue seven is really... I think it's because

they were trying to go back to the post -Five

issues, you know, having to work as them slow

down time, John trying to figure out what Marisha's

really doing, and other people are trying to

get into the quiet, and John using a bull -bone

as a, you know, double -edged lightsaber from

episode one. Again, this is something we could

stop for, to stick the truth to, but I'm going

to go and use it as a weapon. So, I kind of like

that idea, but we're getting cryptic answers,

and the problem is with the race. I don't know

if she's an undercover cop, or she was trying

to break free because she wants to join in the

client with Suze and John, but John pretty much

admits that he screwed up horribly about going

back in his life because, again, they have that

compass. So every time he activates it, sex really

is dropping down. So I think he used the Quiet

one too many times to get some information, but...

Yeah, he goes into the Quiet at Issue 7. Once

he's in the income world, he goes to the house

of the head sex -police chick and basically finds

all his files and steals all his files. That's

where, you know, fighting this other guy with

Dildo comes in. And, you know, the Issue 7 kind

of ends with him basically saying that... You

know, he says, you know, and I stole everything

I could carry and then that's where Rage comes

in and it kind of ends. We get to issue 8, which

is entitled Robert Rainbow. Yeah. And we're introduced

to Dr. Robert Rainbow. He is Suzy's new OBGYN.

Apparently he's also an old friend of John's

or something. I'm just not - I enjoyed reading

this second volume, this - these next - I enjoyed

reading them, I enjoyed finding out the story,

I enjoyed being introduced to new characters

and new, different - they're basically introducing

adults to different ways of bondage and all this

and all that and everything else. But honestly,

I did not laugh. this entire trade the con it's

it's it's like met fraction took the first five

issues and that was a that was a comedy play

and now this is fractions version of the shakespeare

tragedy or something in these next five here

with issues six to ten it just doesn't you know

what it is You know, love stories are most tragic,

where the guy's in love with a girl, they make

a break, but when they finally do get back together,

they have to eat each other's shit. And I think

the biggest problem is that now they're going

to be struggling with all these idiotic sex jokes,

and I think they're going way too long with Susan,

Dr. Rainbow, and then of course we have to have

the interns looking at her, and I'm like, she

turns and looks. at the audience ago, so this

is happening. I mean, I'll be honest with you.

There was an episode of The Simpsons where Bart

broke his lower spine. He had to wear a cast

on his rear end. And what happened was, you know,

Dr. Hibbett said, well, yeah, here are my implants.

You're going to look at the stickers, Bart. I

just couldn't get any more humiliating. And I'm

thinking to myself, it was an incident mainly

because it's an older woman voicing a 10 -year

-old boy. and other people looking at it, but

I'm like, it's either a fetish, or something

so wrong with us, and to have people looking

at Susie's vagina and her saying blah blah blah,

it just is, and not only that, but we did make

this poster of Spencer the Spagoria, and he says,

let's take a look, shall we? I'm sorry, but this

is just stupid. This is not social commentary.

This is not funny, this is not pitch, it's just,

it's Suzy's cervix, it's the intern's, and in

all honesty, it's just stupid. So as this issue

progresses, we see John meeting up with Robert

Rainbow and Suzy, we see Robert Rainbow's origins,

which, as a new character, I'm glad they took

the time to explain his origin, I thought that

was really cool. We see that John is still having

issues and uh he's trying to go to therapy but

apparently the therapist just doesn't care about

anything he's saying he basically you know screams

up the real food court because who the hell first

of all who the hell goes to a ball therapist

come on now um as he screams out there's a guy

in the food court who apparently is a real therapist

that likes to listen and help him with his problems

so that happens um and that's kind of how this

one ends It actually ends with Suzie going ballistic

because apparently they've destroyed her library.

Yeah, that's right, but she wants to save the

library. But the good thing is that John and

Suzie kind of get back together because as we

see, even though she spent some time with Rainbow,

we see them holding hands. He will jump ahead,

he will try to say, I love you. But I do know

the panel where they're knocking down the librarian.

John is just like holding Sue's back, and she's

crying and screaming, and the construction workers

are just like, you know, turning their heads

back and looking at her like they don't give

a shit. And I hope that, that's how it ends.

You know, she kind of, she loses something, and

that's the whole thing about love, like when

you're willing to give up for love, and unfortunately,

Sue's eight lost all of her. And issue nine is

essentially them. I'm trying to figure out why

they have all these files. It's also the introduction

of several different characters, including therapists.

Oh, well, this... Dr. Anakin -Kate. It's essentially,

this entire issue is Dr. Anakin -Kate's origin

story. We do have John and Susie going around

dealing with their issues, but, you know, by

the middle of this, we see all of Dr. Anakin

-Kate's origin, which, again, I like. I like

the taking. They've taken two issues now. Issue

eight and issue nine. Issue eight is essentially

Robert Rainbow's introduction. Issue nine is

Dr. Anna Cain's introduction. And I really enjoy

that. I love Zdarsky's art. Making the quiet

or comfortable or whatever you want to call it,

making it bright, shiny, and super colorful compared

to what the book usually is. It's very unique

kind of colors. I love that contrast. I really

do. Oh, it's a great way to write, so I'll give

it that. Alright, got to complete, um... You

know what it is? I always feel that it's comic

books that they, maybe it was Frank Miller that

didn't write psychiatrists, but I always feel

that in pop culture, comic book writers, the

most, do not like psychiatrists. They have a

lot of problems. As a matter of fact, what a

hole. I interviewed... writer who put together

a cover called Gateway Runners, where the first

few pages, you know, the main characters bashing

the psychiatrists, and I asked him, and then

I said, you know, frighten me when I notice that

someone psychiatristically bashed them, and then,

you know, Batman, Barbara Cobb, you know, you're

having a take on them, and sex criminals. Like,

what did you feel with psychiatrists? Is it because,

you know, of their egos, is it because you didn't

have the answers or anything? Like, why do you,

you know, like, psychiatrists so much? The only

mysterious that I seem to be getting is that

they don't hate psychiatrists, but sometimes

I feel like maybe they do have the answers, but

then they kind of call it a life of their own

and their master. And I feel, you know, with

this Dr. Jade character, I couldn't go on to

go too many times to deal with someone like this,

but there is a great movie for get your pants

on before the Martians go home. Yeah, there's

supposed to be this girl who's a male psychiatrist,

and the Martian has come down there because she's

sick and tired of all things lying, so this Martian

pretty much discredits the psychiatrist and the

psychiatrist's waiting room with all her patience,

and she breaks character, like, she was this

girl who's not a psychiatrist, and then she starts

to, like, drop her, you know, her voice, and

she gives her real accent, and she just becomes

like this, you know, this sex slave, then again.

So... I guess that's what this is trying for

me to take on. I don't know. I mean, like I said,

I like her origin. I think it's interesting how

she came up. Because what I like about this whole

second arc here is how they're basically introducing

other people that can also be in the Quiet or

Come World or whatever you want to call it. And

this one, issue nine, kind of ends on them, on

all three of them, John, Susie, and Anna. Basically,

it ends on Susie telling her about the Quiet

and whatever else. As we get to the final issue

of the trade, issue 10, that is John with his

psychiatrist at first. We then go back to Susie

and Hannah and John with all this. We find out

that as all three of them are having sex, obviously

Anna's doing it one way, and John and Susie are

doing it another way. They're not having a threesome,

essentially, but they kind of are at the same

time. It's kind of... I don't want to say existential,

but it's... See, the show... I don't think he'd

feel, as she said in the last issue, that she

feels starved, and she's insatiable, and she

can't reach, you know, satisfaction the way she

wanted to, and she's a transsexual man. went

in, and she's been with twice, and she's, you

know, we've seen how she, you know, experiments

with both male and female, but she doesn't understand

why she can't reach pleasure every single time.

The only happiness once was alone, and it kind

of bothers her that she wants it to be quiet.

I guess when she discovers what Susan John had

done, she wants her to call it a whirlpool, and

John's psychiatrist is trying to take everything

away that John has learned. So... She doesn't...

it's not so much that she wants to ever face

them, it's just that she wants to be as quiet

as she could 24 -7 and never come back. So the

problem is... Yeah, the problem is that I don't

know if she's trying to break them up, at this

point of view, that one of them will be 12 of

them. That's what I didn't get. I don't think

she's trying to do anything to them, specifically.

She's, as you already said, she's just trying

to find her own way of pleasuring for herself

only. I mean, it's not, you know... I don't think

it has anything to do with her trying to break

them up at all. I think she just wants to be

able to join in on the fun and actually get pleasure

out of having sex with herself. In this issue,

we also have Robert and Rach... Getting together

and talking like you already mentioned the psychiatrist

stuff or the John's therapist stuff This one

ends on them, all three of them, John, Susie,

and Anna ending up in come all together And then

we go to the sex police. The final page is the

sex police saying oh well we're not the real

police but you know We'll do this this this this

this to basically stop them from whatever they're

doing It just kind of leaves it on a really weird

limit. I have another question. Can she turn

to a sex ghost? Because I see the show goes,

you know, Bopper can see another guy on the phone

and all of a sudden it's like, she goes like...

Wait, aren't you near a sex ghost too? Like,

is that what she's turned into? Or... No, she

assumed that... So she drops the phone, she asks,

you know, did it work? Did it work? I can't tell.

What does it look like? Wait, we're not weird

sex ghosts, too? And it's something completely,

like, John and Susie are themselves humans. She

is, like, a naked, like, if there was ever a

naked version of her, synergy on her chest. I

mean, yeah, she's just completely clear. There's

color to her, but there isn't color on her anywhere.

She's essentially a blonde ghost at this point,

where in real life, she's a brunette. So I'm

not sure what the hell happened here, what's

going on. I think it's going to make for an interesting,

you know, story as we, you know, as we go further

with the, you know, Next time we do one of these

will be whenever volume 3 actually releases.

I don't know when. I think they're on issue 12

or 13 by now. But I'm not too sure. So in the

trade we have variant covers. I just, I really

love how some of these variant covers look. They're

really awesome. There's no coverage of the Christian

house either in John and Trash, because you can't

remember in 1960s. You know, and of course we

get to have sex. It almost looks like the one

where they're chasing each other, the orange

one with the light balls around it. It almost

seems like a weird, catch me if you can kind

of image. Yeah, and of course we have all the

sex tips. Playboy's interview with that ship

and that's that's I have not read this this little

um ending here um neither have I you know but

I mean overall the story I did like it I was

a little confused at times with what the hell

was actually going on I'll say this I missed

the fun of the first five issues I missed the

comedy of it all so I'm hoping as we continue

The comedy will come back, because that's really

what I'm missing at this point. I have to give

this a 2 out of 5, because here's the 5. I'm

not in a relationship right now, and the ones

I've been in have been weak. You know, I'm glad

that it's not just about sex, and that's a good

thing. But the problem is, is that I have to

be invested in these characters. to hear about

their sex life and what's going on. And John

and Suze were interested in the first few issues

because we found out how they misbehave with

sex, what they can do with their sexuality, and

what they're like when they're not having sex.

And Suze cares about saving a long story. John,

he is a freak over to anybody because he just

had a bad relationship with several people, I

can understand, like with his family. But they

find each other because of They have one thing

in common, they want a whole lot of love, and

that's great. And now, it's that, and I've said

this hundreds of times, in an e -pop culture

setting, the characters have to live up for a

while because the powers of being free for them

to continue to see characters break away from

each other. They're not going to see each other.

They're not going to see each other. They're

going to work on a TV show. They barely work

on Big Bang Theory, and I'm getting so sick and

tired of this crap. So, the issue of using a

different character as an actor contained this

interesting viewpoint, and I'll keep trying to

figure out what to do with it, but for now, these

issues are just for the hell of it. I don't really

need to do something with the library. Other

than demolishing it, it could've been so much

more of a trying to reverse time and saving and

going back and going back to the future 2 moments.

There were so many things that could have gone

both quick and quiet, and all it came down to

is John being too cheeky, and she could say how

much she loves Suze, and almost losing Suze,

and just introducing the character that just

wants to literally be an acquired 24 -7, so I've

had problems on this one. I, like I said, I enjoyed

it, like, past, like, once we got to issue 8,

issue 6 and 7 were a little rough, but once we

got to issue 8, I really started enjoying the

story. Overall, I love Sadarski's Arts. The entire

trade was absolutely amazing. For me, I'm going

to give it a 3 out of 5. I can't go as low as

a 2. I do wish that the comedy was there a little

bit more, and the irony was there a little bit

more. I do enjoy the origin stories for Robert

Rainbow and Anakin Kane. I thought that was really

cool. I am interested to see where they go from

here. So, I am still going to be reading this

series, like I said, next time, you know, when

I pick up the trade for volume 3, whenever that

gets around, coming out, we will do another sex

couples podcast, but for right now, I'm just...

I'm glad we're doing this in trade and not single

issue coverage, because I think if we were doing

this in single issue coverage, issue 6 and 7

would have made me walk away from the series

entirely. But right now, I'm... someone optimistic

about the future of sex for a while, so we'll

just have to wait and see what happens. Yeah,

I was hoping it was a way from just like, going

to some trash. Okay. Yeah. Alright, then. Alright,

folks. Coming up next is going to be Jeremy and

I talking about IDW's comic adaptation of Angel

Season 5, Smile Time. So join us for that, and

after that we've got Robin Hood Month coming

up in Zuniscope Entertainment. At the end of

Robin Hood Month, I'm hoping to have an interview

with the author, Patrick Shan, so look for that

as well. Most likely the end of July, beginning

of August, hopefully. So that's what's coming

up here in the whole bag. I am trying to do as

many different coverages as I can, as far as

what we cover. There's gonna be a lot of cool

stuff coming up, so stay tuned for that. Thank

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