I Hate Fairyland 2 Review

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57. I am one of your hosts. TFG1 Mike and joining

me is Kamarool Dan. Hello. Hey, how's it going?

Yeah, it's going. So today we're diving back

into Image Comics and no, we're not talking sex

criminals. And sadly, we're not talking cowl

volume two just yet. But a new series. Well,

you've read this already, but it's new to me.

And it's kind of the trend here in the pullback

for this week and last week where I've been looking

at Series that I've been trying to get around

to for the last I don't know year or so and just

haven't last week We had lumberjanes with beetle

Steve and I and this week. We've got I hate fairyland

So there's that when did you first find out about

this series? I don't know probably from a preview

issue from image or maybe on Twitter from Scottie

young I really don't know when I first heard

about it, but Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty big fan

of Scottie young and a lot of his work. So I

follow him, you know what he's doing pretty subtly

and heard this was coming up and saw the premise

and I know his style felt would work great so

I It took me a while that I didn't think get

into it until a few issues in but I knew I knew

I wanted to because I pretty much have loved

everything he's done up to this point. Yeah.

Uh, well, like I said, I just read this this

morning right before we recorded this. Uh, we're

going to cover issues one and two today out of

the five that are already out. Uh, I do know

that issues six and seven is coming. So, but

issues one and two, Scotty young is on story

and art. The colors are done by Jean Francis.

I can't even pronounce the last name. The lettering

is done by Nate Picos of Blambot. So there's

that. At first I thought, okay, it's an image

book. Probably means it's not safe for kids.

And then I look at half the language and they

basically work on, he works on getting her to

curse without actually having her curse. Yeah,

it's a lot of it's a lot of purposeful censorship,

but you know, you know a more humorous way it's

yeah, absolutely So the first issue opens up

with once upon a time and all that and the main

character Gertrude gets sucked through her bedroom

floor basically an Alice in Wonderland joke Oh,

there's a lot of tie -ins to pretty much all

types of fairy tales and Disney stuff. It's yeah.

Yeah for sure fairy tales and there's even Star

Wars references and and Wizard of Oz references

because I mean come on Queen Claudia, and it's

almost like Glinda the Good Witch So in the first

issue she's given a Jiminy Cricket type character

To be her guide. Yeah And fairyland looks like

a really really fun place but Gertrude just does

not want to be there Let's face it. She essentially

you got Sucked into this place without you know

a choice at all Yeah, well when she wanted to

be there at first when she was a child the the

caveat is 37 years later that changes So when

I started reading this and obviously you get

the opening and all that and then you got the

the the narration And I just figured oh, it's

it's gonna be some character in the book somewhere

somehow Come to realize it's the moon doing the

narration And the big picture in the first issue

of the moon that when he says that was 27 years

ago Why is it that he almost looks like Alfred

Hitchcock? In his face and his frown Well, I

guess they both have a really big face and big

mouth I guess I don't know I know I did not get

that but I I guess it makes sense But yeah that

that becomes a running gag in the series where

the the narrator of some sort is brought it out

to kind of You know bring up the reader kind

of review what can happen next and you know,

she basically goes on to then Gruely murder everyone

and the witnesses as well, which I think lets

you write you know right off the bat Like what

exactly you're dealing with when it comes to

this comic So As soon as I saw the scene where

the narrator is describing to us, he says, the

sweet young girl who was once filled with hope

and joy was taken over by the hateful, miserable,

disgusting, revolting, wretched, horrendous,

putrid, and fluff that guy. Hey, you know I can

hear you, right? So, I don't think, and I'm probably

gonna break everybody's brain with this, one

of my interviews a couple years ago that I did,

Joe San Flippo, He is a narrator for Ever After

High, which is a Mattel Netflix original animated

series based on fairy tale characters. So he's

one of the narrators on that show. And in that

cartoon, the child of, is it, I think it's Alice

from Alice in Wonderland. can actually hear the

narrator. She's the only character in the entire

cartoon that can actually hear the narrator.

So as soon as I saw this scene, I'm like, oh

my god, I want Joe to voice the moon now, because

that's just so awesome. You want to see his entity

be destroyed into little tiny bits of moon grain.

No, no, no, just the opening. I don't want to

see him after the fact of after the fact she

essentially kills him And then she kills the

stars which Okay, the big giant gun Does it remind

you of anything? The thing that always comes

to my mind was looney tunes. I don't know if

there's something I'm not or Eddie Valiant. And

as soon as I saw the bullets, I'm like, which

way did it go? Which way did it go? I love the

art style in this. The art style is amazing.

Yeah, I love like Scotty Young has this like,

I don't know, there's, there's a lot of influences

within his work, but there's also like a unique

kind of creativity within it too. You know, you

can see Looney Tunes, you could see, you know,

Ren and Stimpy with the cartoon violence, but

he kind of makes it his own for sure. And he

does a lot of variant covers and he kind of has

this kiddish style, but he does it in a lot of

fun ways and he keeps it fresh. Like, I don't

know if you ever read, he did the Wizard of Oz

series for Marvel 2 and that's kind of where

he had a huge breakout. But I think this, he

brings it up to another level and a large part

due to the colors as well. It's just... Yeah,

the colors in this are amazing. Yeah, it just

like soaks you in with it. It's it's intense.

It is it is very much like the world is representing.

It's intense. It's sweet. It's it's vibrant.

But like, you know, you can't stare it out for

too long because it might hurt your eyes, I think.

But it's it's gorgeous to look at. Like the panel

when when she's shooting and all the bullets

come out, that's just you know, you've got this

this bright blue because it's almost like it's

almost it's supposed to be nighttime because

she shot the moon. It's got this like bright

bright and dark blue at the top with the purple

at the like purplish pink at the bottom right

and then the cloud cover and then this giant

gun is just just amazing and then the panel where

you actually see the damage that the bullets

are causing to the stars because essentially

she kills the moon and then she says oh we must

you know Eliminate all the witnesses and apparently

the stars are actual characters and people and

yes it's not not very good to be a star especially

you know and it always and i know this isn't

scientifically correct and the first thing i

thought of was oh So that's how they get shooting

stars. Yeah, I don't think Neil deGrasse Tyson

would agree with that hypothesis of shooting

stars, but it's funny because it doesn't hide

from the brutality of it in a way, where it's

like, yeah, she is an awful person and she is

completely okay with genocide, which just lets

you know, it makes her... That more interesting

though and especially because just a few page

pages earlier She was just you know young girl

thrown into this fantastic world But right away

we now 37 years of basically living in hyper

sugar version of Disneyland will drive anyone

insane Yeah So the Queen wants to kill her but

the Queen can't actually kill her so she basically

hires a huntsman Thank God Kristen Stewart was

not playing this character And they go to Los

fungus which is essentially Las Vegas yeah Again

the colors the just everything about it is is

is just amazing absolutely love it We even get

as I mentioned before we we get a um where she's

supposed to be a certain princess thankfully

scotty had the taste not to put her in a slave

bikini uh but uh the the glob guy basically says

uh you know we can either grind your guts and

bones and use it for rooks in tomorrow's gumbo

or you can answer our riddle and she's like fml

riddle away just absolutely is just so great

so we get this giant riddle and then she has

her princess leia moment now did you expect this

did you i mean we we know this character is just

horrifying and evil and whatever else when it

comes to gertrude but did you expect her to pull

a princess leia Was thinking now I think she

was gonna pull out some sort of like insane weapon

and just like blow a hole through them but I

assumed like something fishy was gonna go on

but I didn't I didn't get the Yeah to pull a

full layer and just like choke the life out of

them And You know, I normally turn away from

a lot of blood guts and gore folks, but this

is just so much fun this entire see well this

first issue and the second issue as well when

we get to it reminds me of that um that one oh

what's that one video game came out a few years

ago not lollipop chainsaw what was that one where

it's the guy in the amusement park oh god sunset

um sunset paradise that's what it is that's what

this reminds me of is all the violence of of

that and You know, no comic like this would be

as great as it is without a eating mushrooms

joke. Yeah, I always wondered what toast still

tasted like, and now we kind of know, so. Yep.

Yeah, it's definitely within, you know, a few

pages she's committed mass murder, killed this...

person and Started tripping off of the brains

of them to a person. So yeah, Scottie young is

starting off strong for sure Yeah, and I love

because the her what's his name Larry is her

cricket I really want to call him Jiminy, but

his name is Larry And he basically says her you

ate some of the mushrooms not very much of them

I'm fine, Mr. Scary Monster, I promise. Next

panel is how she sees him. This is going to be

a long night. So, we get them going to Ice Cream

Island, which looks amazing. I wish I had a larger...

The way the guy did view on comics ology. It's

just one small panel I wish it was like a full

page spread of ice cream island because that

looks amazing Yeah, I would love to put posters

of this I would I'm waiting for like some people

to like find posters of I hate fairyland and

start putting them up and not realizing what

it actually is like putting him in like a Daycare

or something like that. It's like actually Yeah,

that's not what you think it is It's not. There

is. I mean, there is a I hate very land coloring

book coming out. So if you're looking for a gift

for kids, there you go. Yeah, this this series,

folks, is not even though it looks like, you

know, fairy tale esque. I mean, it is a fairy

land fairy tale kind of thing, but it's not really

for children at all. Like most image comics are

not for kids, but. It's just so hilarious. It

really really is. I love the first issue We end

on a really interesting cliffhanger of how she

meets What happened earlier with the Queen when

she when the Queen called her her huntsman? So

that kind of puts it at a cliffhanger And the

other thing that's in this is because it's the

first issue. It's that lowercase I which is Scottie

Young's letter to the reader about How the whole

series came about I really enjoy reading that

I thought that was great. I've been meaning to

read some of his stuff, but People there are

just too many comics in the world. Yeah, I guess

I would recommend his Wizard of Oz I would say

it's in the sense. It's a little bit more straightforward

It's it has a similar style to it, but it's more

it's taking it goes through basically the entire

saga Wizard of Oz right and He's on Rocket Raccoon

as well. And you could see a lot of Gertrude,

like Rocket Raccoon in the way he uses that character,

very much similar to that personality and temperament

of Gertrude. They're very similar in that way.

But it's kind of funny seeing that in this young

girl who looks like she's five or six, but she's

really this 37 year old woman who's been dead

inside for a very long time. Yeah. Yeah, going

to Strange Dimensions and stuff ages you rapidly

or, you know, it's always some weird aging thing

with going to being sucked down a rabbit hole.

The first issue, I absolutely loved it. I almost

immediately wanted to read the other four issues.

I only read the second one because we're only

talking about the first two. But I am so, so

hooked on this series at this point. I love it.

What would you any any other thoughts for issue

one for you? No I mean the one question I had

after it was like how long can you sustain a

story of this nature like because it's You know,

it's a high concept. It's like we said, it's

very, you know high energy It's got a lot going

on. So can you make this you know more than a

miniseries and that was my only really question

going in but besides that I really just it was

basically a comic that enjoyed be a comic and

it was just a whole hell a lot of fun Yeah, absolutely.

On the GCR Universal 0 to 5 star scale, what

would you give Issue 1? I would give it a solid

4 out of 5. It's not trying to be the most high

quality comic in the world. It's going for a

certain style and certain enjoyment factor. I

think it really nails that, so 4 out of 5 for

me. Yeah, I'm right there with you. 4 out of

5. It's like... because of its um You know because

of its story and because of what it's supposed

to be I mean I'm not expecting like super shiny

glossy Marvel stuff or DC grit no down and gritty

and whatever else kind of stuff with this but

at the same time as we said with the first issue

it pretty much has a brightens it it's pretty

much like a you know like the Like the the the

old judges scales, you know, it has a light side

and a dark side or I guess you could say it's

Hyrule light world and dark world, but it's one

of those things where At one point it's bright

sunny and everything's okay and then you know

something happens and she gets pissed off and

then we go dark For issue number two same writing

an art team except the mouse has to take over

the narration because the moon is dead What did

you think about the the mouse narrator? Well,

it basically cued me into the fact that okay,

this is gonna be a thing they continue every

issue and I just Curious how they keep going

with it. So it did gives you that expectation.

Okay. Oh, we have another narrator How is she

going to? You know destroy your massively murder

this person so that I I enjoyed the kind of progression

of it and like keeping that joke going And so

in the last issue, since this has been out a

while, folks, I'm just going to go ahead and

spoil it for you. We met the Huntsman, the guy

that was supposed to kill her for Queen Claudia.

And that didn't happen, obviously, because we

opened this issue. The first thing we see is

Gertrude with the head of the Huntsman. on the

bar. Once again, so not for kids. No, unless

you're a very warred family. I don't think so.

Were you at all surprised that, like, you had

that cut from him, like, basically, you know,

leaving on that cliffhanger of, OK, she's going

to have to try to take on this guy to next thing

we see, she's in a bar with his head on her lap.

Did that surprise you that we didn't actually

see that confrontation? Yeah, like I was I don't

know I mean like I Think so far out of reading

these first two issues her character specifically

destroying the moon and and You know killing

all the stars to death I Only expect her to see

I only at this point. I only really expect her

Me to see her take on certain things and that

guy was huge So I'm kind of glad like I don't

I don't think of course I read this like an hour

and a half ago as of this recording But I don't

think we ever get a flashback of her battle with

this guy at least not in this issue but if we

ever get one it would be nice, but She she beat

him I mean, that's just the way her character

is written, the way her character is drawn. She's

a badass. Yeah, I didn't I didn't have an issue

with it either. I think it kind of just it was

a good Not juxtaposition, but it was you know

ending in that one moment. You okay? Like, okay.

Here we go. Here's gonna be this thing It's like

oh no, it was you know was not a big thing for

her So it does give you some idea of who she

is as a character You know her her strengths

and I thought it was also kind of funny too because

it wasn't it was unexpected it was a fun surprise

where and then It showed you that this isn't

maybe not gonna go in a direction that you may

be expect so And we have Bedtime Bear, the bartender.

I was surprised he wasn't blasted away. I'm like,

oh, man, the character that looks like a Care

Bear, he's not going to last very long. This

is not going to happen. And it's just one of

those. What she says in reply to cuz he says

to her I do believe that when a patron starts

using the severed head of a huntsman as a companion

He or she may have had enough to drink. Let's

say you settle up and call it a night She ain't

got no money and she's having three more of those.

Oh Yeah, yeah again of Showing her basically

drunk off her gourd again, that's you know, she's

been was high last time off of mushrooms and

now she's just wasted off of ale in a sugar ale

I guess I don't even know well it's magical ale

we see yeah it's it's it's we find out later

that it's wishing ale but we'll get to that in

a bit uh she basically scares the frog away this

kermit runs like hell folks yeah I don't blame

him. He doesn't really look like Kermit the Frog,

but I love the line. Where the spell do you think

you're going? Yeah, I do love the language he

creates in here, like how, you know, spell and

all these common words, research related to fairy

tales become basically curse words or, you know,

that, you know, replacing, I don't know, it was

just a nice little twist, a little thing that

made it a little bit more fun. Yeah, like we've

said, and like I've repeated multiple times already,

this isn't for kids, but I would suggest this

to any parent, really, because if any parent

is worried about language in comics, this is

a really good, and I've learned over the years

to replace certain words, or change certain words,

or add a letter to certain words. to make it

sound like it's not actually that word. Like,

obviously, this is an explicit podcast, so I'm

gonna use an example, you know, you know, fuck,

sometimes I'll use duck, you know, something

like that. So we find out that she's been drinking

wishing ale, and she makes this wish to be normal.

And the perfect example of the language change

is what Larry says after this happens, fudge

my life. That's the best line I've heard all

year. And he has he has that look on his face

too. It's just like he's a dude who's just been

like defeated. He's just so this guy who starts

off like he's like a Jiminy Cricket character.

And now he's you know, he just looks like a change

smoking depressed. cricket that's just ready,

let it all go. Yeah, he really, really is. So

Gertrude becomes this super giant sugary looking

thing. I can't even see her face anymore at this

point. I mean, no, she's like this morbid blob

of like cuss and yeah, she. Yeah, it's insane

and We finally we do get a close -up on her face

And this is probably the point where I'd say

it goes a little bit Ren and Stimpy in the art

With the the close -up of her face and what it

looks like It wasn't until you mentioned Ren

and Stimpy that That I even really made that

connection to this art at all Yeah, it's I don't

think it's it goes as necessarily as far as ran

stinpy, but they're certainly like there's a

gross out quality to it but yeah, it's in what

they're doing because it's giving you a Sight

of what she would look like if she was in real

life eating all the food. She does in this fairyland.

Yeah Any in Larry says so normal so your normal

seems to be walking type 19 diabetic tumor Hey,

you never know maybe that frog night finds that

thing kind of hot hey frogs aren't the worst

aren't they so yeah So we go back to Queen Claudia

and she then basically contacts the the evil

witch Why is it I'm Seeing mad madam Mim from

the sword in the stone in this character I'm

seeing the I guess the good witch from from again,

maybe because it's just And we didn't mention

that last time but I do like a little you know

The little rule they put in here that you know

being the Queen she hates Gertrude and she wants

to destroy her But she can't hurt her herself.

So it's interesting seeing Yeah, her trying to

find ways around that by getting other people

to do her dirty bird do dirty work for her so

That's a you kind of see. Okay. This is what

it's setting up that formula of what to expect

basically in each issue So we have the witch

that she contacts and this which is traveling

to find Gertrude and basically turns the goat

guy into some zombie goat. Yeah. And this, I

actually really love what they started doing

with the colors here. You know, like we just

mentioned, it's really bright and cheery and

then. It gets like almost a horror vibe as it

gets darker to a certain extent, but it does

use some neon colors just to accent that, to

stay within the framework of the comic. But I

do like this transition we get as we get into

this, you know, pseudo zombies that start flooding

the area because of this witch. Yeah. Well, the

witch, she poisons the guy. He eats the apple,

he gets poisoned, then she walks away. No, I

noticed this later when Gertrude and Larry come

upon it, but I didn't notice it until now that

the brain does have a Bite taken out now. I assume

the witch did that, right? I would assume was

the other the other characters basically. I was

just showing you that like these Yeah, it's you

know, like the zombie virus where they bite at

biting each other to spread it from one character

to the next okay that could work so larry finds

his lighter which apparently she was hoping it

would be the key yeah and we we didn't mention

that when it comes to this the story behind it

basically she gets sucked into this This fairyland

and she has to find this key and what should

take you think would be like, oh, it's a little

adventure That would get her stuck there because

she's been looking for her for 36 years and she's

had no look finding it and figuring out all these

clues or Because as we saw in the first issue,

she's not a big fan of riddles She just rather

just go through blood and force to get her way

Yeah, and the key is supposedly supposed to be

the thing that takes her home, right? That's

yeah broader here in the first place It starts

as an innocent game of basically like a hide

-and -seek or you know A riddle and then she's

been hasn't able to find this thinking key It's

like when you're at your house and you can't

find your keys and they end up being In the first

place you look the entire time. They're actually

in the door. She never took him out. Yeah Yeah

all you know we get to the the next big splash

page here when it's right after uh where she

says i don't understand the bopi top said it

would be here you know we get you know that giant

splash page after that and again i so want like

i wish scotty young had like deviant art prints

of various splash pages from this series because

Having this as art would be awesome. It's a giant

guy a giant blue guy. It's a ladies and gentlemen.

It's a giant smurf Colors a smurf turn me when

you choke them green It's a giant smurf. It's

actually a few of them. It's not just one It's

just one in the foreground a couple in the background

and then you get the Sun Slowly peaking up over

the mountain because the Sun probably saw what

happened to his buddy the moon And he doesn't

want that to happen to him exactly He didn't

see anything. He didn't see anything. Yeah, I

know It's not even snitches get stitches that

snitches gave their heads blown off. So he's

just trying not to be seen So they run into the

half chewed up brain They then go to the early

abandoned village. Yeah. And that's again where

the colors become very effective in showing this

and getting that vibe of, okay, some stuff's

about to go down now. Well, yeah, like I said,

you know with that giant splash page it's all

bright and sunny and full of color and then we

get to where Larry and Gertrude are walking through

this forest type place and Like I said, they

see the brain and this is where all the background

colors turn to like a muted orange and yellow

Because the Sun is right there and then we go

to this haunted It almost has I really hate to

say this but it almost has a Scooby -Doo kind

of vibe to it with the colors and stuff as far

as the darkness and all that. Yeah, I could see

that. And she runs into the zombie goats. I really

want to call them zygotes for some odd reason.

And she pulls out her axe and basically starts

killing zombies. You know, I gotta say, I am

not a fan of zombies at all. I'm so sick of zombies

in pop culture. I've never seen The Walking Dead.

I don't think that, because I've never seen it,

I'm not going to sit here and say the show is

bad. I just hate all the hype about the show.

I've never seen, what's the other one? I, Zombie.

I'm just not a zombie kind of guy. But this comic...

Liked her seeing it seeing her kill the zombies

Yeah, I mean, I guess it's uh, maybe since or

not they're a different type of zombie They're

not like I guess of the undead. It's more magical

and and you know, it's questionable Are these

zombies or they just these be beings under some

sort of spell? Once again, hey, there's another

there's another moon we get a nighttime splash

page where after she kills the zombie she says

it'll take a few more than a you know a few more

of those to ruin my day and We see this nighttime

scene with a different half moon. Yeah, it's

it's not the same moon So at least we have some

sort of you know He reminds me of it reminds

me of the moon and the old Mack the knife commercials.

That's what it reminds me of So this nighttime

scene with all these zombies and they're basically

surrounded and That's how issue two ends. Yeah,

and he had another cliffhanger like the first

issue Yep, which is kind of cool now When I'm

wondering because I know issues three four and

five are out I have not read those yet and I

think how we're gonna do these these I hate fairyland

episodes is the same way I've been doing the

the he -man and charity war episodes with a das

baron we're gonna do them two issues at a time,

so I Have not read issue three yet, but I'm wondering

are we gonna get another Scene jump like we did

between issues one and two mean like yeah, I

mean I I I don't want you to tell me, but that's

what left me wondering at the end of this after

we've talked about it. I'm like, oh wait, are

we going to get another scene jump? Great. Issue

two also has pinups in the back of it, which

is really cool variant kind of cover things for

the series. I love the back end of this. the

very back page, the flower that's basically drooling.

Or no, he's got his tongue out, he's not drooling,

that's his tongue, supposedly. Yeah, I'm loving

this series. If only certain comics could come

out on a daily basis, this would be one of them

that would be awesome, although I know that would

probably kill Scotty Young. Yeah, and I think

this is one to that. Like I said, like I said

is like I was wondering can you can sustain this

more than the miniseries and Luckily, I think

it does sure like there's a lot here to tap into

but I do think it's one that you like I think

it's a shortcut It's just perfect length. It

doesn't overstay its welcome. It has a good formula

set up so far as we mentioned and you know, it

shows that Gives you an idea of okay. There's

actually something here to keep going um, but

yeah, this is why I kind of love image image

comics because They give someone like scotty

young the opportunity really I think to do what

makes him great and really give him like creative

freedom because I and just like hey you love

doing this stuff go for it and I think he with

that he really Gave out one of the most original

one of the most fun comics in the past year or

so Yeah, I mean, this has been really, really

fun. Like I said, I am really, really digging

this. Folks, if you have not checked this out

yet from Image Comics, go check out I Hate Fairyland.

Issue number two, any other thoughts before we

give the ratings on issue two? No. I think we

covered most of it, but I think it's a good progression.

We're seeing what's going on, but again, it's...

Like I guess the best way to describe it is you

just it's pure unadulterated fun enjoyment. It's

yeah It's a good comic. It's a good palate cleanser

Like if you're reading a lot of you know comics

that are like superhero based or dramatic and

more serious This is the perfect thing to read

that kind of gets just remind you of okay A comic

can just be silly and insane and it makes you

feel good Absolutely, so what would you give

this one? I'd give it another four out of five

I think they're the first two were about even

when it comes to me when it with the series So

it's starting off a really good note Yeah, I'm

right there with you four to five for this one

as well. They also have on the censored variant

covers I Wonder how many people actually got

these the uncensored variant covers basically

calls the series fuck fairyland I think Greg

from Talking in Circles, he's one of the big

fans of the series. I think he's got one or two

of the varying colors. Does he really? He's actually

the person that kind of turned me on to Scottie

Young. Cool. Alright, folks. I think that's gonna

do it. I have no idea what's coming up next.

I have various plans and things, and I've already

had Steve make up art and stuff, but I'm not

sure. I've got planned that Joe and I, Joe Reed

and I are gonna do a commentary on Secret of

the U's because that movie is 25 years old. Really?

Man, that makes me feel old. Yeah, it does, doesn't

it? It's either that one, or in preparation for

Out of the Shadows, we do a commentary on the

2014 Buck Buck Turtles. I'm sorry, Bill Cosby

did Buck Buck much better than the Turtles did.

My only problem with that 2014 film was, hey,

let's play Buck Buck. And really, what they should

have called it was Johnny on a Pony, because

that's what it's supposed to be known in New

York according to Bill Cosby. Anyway, so yeah,

it's either gonna be the secret of the years

commentary or it might be Actually, it'll be

a week after this. So it's about a week ago as

of this recording and the way this is gonna be

published TMNT bebop and rocksteady destroy everything

number one came out there IDW is having a five

issue miniseries all about bebop and rocksteady

basically going through time and creating havoc

and it is awesome What do you guys get coming

up on talking in circles well inspired by the

release of Exponential apocalypse. We will be

having an episode where we try to create our

own apocalypse of pestilence death war and Famine

getting characters from all across comics and

fiction and trying to basically get them to fit

into those roles That's the fun little exercise

of trying to create the ultimate for horsemen.

And no we did not we did not pick Rick Flair

spoiler alert As long as Vince McMahon and Donald

Trump are in there fighting each other That may

cause the apocalypse. You never know. Okay. So

some context, because I don't want to get too

political on this show, obviously, but because

Donald Trump is running for president of this

great nation here, I went back. I went on WWE

network and I went back to look at, I think it

was... Was it WrestleMania 23, I think? I think

it was WrestleMania 23, where it was either gonna

be him or Vince that got their head shaved. And

it turned out to be Vince. Oh, God, seeing Donald

Trump back in those days. Just crazy. So, yeah,

folks, make your greatest game in the comics.

We will catch you next time. Like I said, it's

either gonna be Turtles or it's going to be who

knows? Uh, we might end up coming back next week

and doing issues three and four of this. Who

knows? I don't know yet. So, we will catch you

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factor fiction or the power of names those are

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