The Pull Bag
IDW TMNT Issues 42: Attack on Technodrome Parts 1 and 2

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read them there absolutely and we kick off the
TMNT coverage for 2015 with the next big arc
that is currently happening in IDW's TMNT series
attack on technodrome we start with issue 41
are you asking the question that I'm asking as
to why it's not called attack on the technodrome
yeah it's yeah You know At this point they've
done us pretty well so far. They haven't screwed
with our heads too much. They haven't really
Shat all over the franchise like some other franchises
do some other writers and creators do I mean
that as we know This has been going on for four
years now The series premiered four years ago.
I cannot believe that I I was a different human
being four years ago This comic book is as old
as my son. Oh my gosh You know and in four years
they have not you know sure as we've mentioned
all the previous podcasts we've done in this
series. Sure, there's certain things we don't
like, like the My Little Pony feet and whatever
else, but overall, I think between the two of
us, we pretty much love this series. I mean,
with me and the writing, it's not the content
of the writing, it's sometimes how it's said,
but for the most part, Waltz, and let's face
it, Tom Waltz is pretty much... the main writer
for the most part with, you know, Bobby in there
a few times and obviously the co -creator of
the overall franchise there contributing ideas.
And there have been maybe one or two points in
40, the past 40 issues that I've questioned the
way things are said, not what is said, but like
how it's for me, the worst thing is in any, any
doesn't matter what could be turtles could be
human could be whatever it's when they write
something for whatever character it is that i
don't think that's the way the character should
have said it um... you know i i mentioned he
mannered there's one there's a couple of issues
and then abnett's twenty thirteen run uh... uh...
for us to start issue seven of human message
universe from dc where he uses that old timey
talk and you know it just doesn't seem like that's
the way people on Eternia talk for He -Man and
the rest of the universe. Do all the characters
talk like that or just He -Man at that particular
moment? It's the characters in general in the
franchise and in a couple of those issues. Thankfully
he moved away from doing the old timey talk.
It's He -Man, not Thor. Yeah, true. He kind of
turns into Thor. It's a whole other other deal
we actually my buddy a death Baron and I just
last week we did the final Seven issues of the
2013 ongoing because they've changed it now.
They've started a new ongoing called he manned
the eternity war It basically picks up from the
second to last issue of the 2013 ongoing series
and we'll go on from there but um but yeah no
i mean in four years and yeah this series has
been going on four years i think i only found
it what was it last year we started doing these
or was it yeah it was last could i don't even
remember because we there was the why where we
were doing like whole arcs yeah we've done way
too we've done this entire series to death but
we love doing it um yeah i don't even wow that's
that's scary for me folks because usually i remember
every thing you know people say what podcast
number was that or what what what episode was
that and i'm like oh it's this one um all right
looking at it yeah it was wow oh damn you gotta
be kidding me what are we looking at Okay, so
we are recording this January 21st 2015 it will
be out January 28th 2015 we are One year it's
taken us one year To do all of this coverage
from volume one when we first started to now
that's less time than I thought I thought we
had been at it for two years or That's cool.
Yeah, I'm looking at Yeah, yeah, I'm looking
at Yeah, one year. It's taking us one year to
do all of all of 40 issues That's amazing because
I thought it would be a lot longer than that
But yeah, no it only it's only been a year for
us on this and it's just been great I mean it
really really has And you know we get to start
a new arc we get to continue the story and we
get to see the technodrome in action So we'll
be right back with issue 41 after this My mighty
foot soldiers beaten by a bunch of turtles Great
terrific we're on the run and that idiot wants
to chit chat Alright folks, it is issue 41, Attack
on Technodrome part 1, and the cover is The Turtles
Running Away from the Eye of the Technodrome.
You love this cover. I love that cover. It's
my second favorite cover of the entire run, first
being that Nobody and Alopex cover. Right, right.
Yeah, I was just very glad to see what they were
gonna do with that eye because he'd only seen
the technodrome in bits and pieces I think they
showed a part of it all the way back in issue
one or two and it's just this partial sphere
Kind of like Death Star in progress. They didn't
even have the top of it done at that point and
It's like oh, what are they gonna do? Is it just
gonna be like a building? I don't know it, you
know, I know what it's supposed to be but and
they left it wide open enough to Eventually come
up with this wicked eye design, and I like that.
It's even got a cowl this first page here the
the eye is shielded by like a blast shield and
it rises and you see the Iris that starts sparking
lightning. Oh my god. I want to play the the
Nintendo game now Fight the technological the
the second cover, which I believe is by Eastman
or it might be Smith I don't know him both of
it alright is That looks more like Eastman's
style. Yeah, that's what I figured. I don't know
what the hell it's supposed to be. I know it's
the turtles and I know it's a bunch of throwing
stars and someone attacking them, but cover A
is where it is. The technodrome cover is where
it is. So we start out on Burnout Island and
they are about to activate the technodrome and
reveal it. and charge it up and you know the
panel at the bottom here where you see um you
know standby for triggering sequence the technodrome
um it's simply amazing my only question is if
they're on burnout island why is there city stuff
around it assuming this factory they needed to
build the thing oh that's true yeah maybe i mean
because it looks like it looks like it's just
sitting in the middle of the city itself it really
does it's like hey we we sprouted this up from
the ground there's an image near the yet the
city's still in it there's an image near the
end of 42 where they show the whole island and
how big the technodrome is compared to it and
indeed there there was still a city around it
so they are they are aware of continuity yeah
yeah very cool very cool So we get to Stockman
and Fugitoid and they are talking about, you
know, billions of deaths of innocent humans and,
you know, Baxter is his arrogant self. And they
basically get into an argument here. And I love
crowing off, off, off panel, he's like, if you
two imbeciles are done with your blasted whining.
Baxter and Fugitoid, well, more Baxter than Fugitoid,
he's kind of playing that Starscream character
where I'm looking at Krang going, why haven't
you killed this guy yet? Surely there's somebody
else in the entire universe that you can kidnap
who's smarter than this guy and is less likely
to backstab you. But, you know, we've got cool
stuff going on. Yeah, and plus it's Baxter. We
gotta wait until he at least becomes a fly before
we kill him off. Yeah, I think he's gonna get...
teleported or body switched with one of his fly
borgs. And that's how it's going to be. He's
going to be, I don't think he's going to mutate.
I think he's just going to get, he's going to
have to save himself by going into the fly borg
body. Kind of like Fugitoid is stuck in that
body. It's going to be a foil for that. That'd
be interesting to say the least. Alright, so,
um, Krang goes on to say, I'd appreciate some
silence for this next part, and they are testing
the trigger on the technodrome eye, and you can
just see Krang smiling in the panel here, in
the reflection of the red eye, and then it basically
shoots out a bolt of red, and the... I'm trying
to see how it would be in the... Oh, yeah. how
it would be in your physical thing is just this
one whole page here on Comixology Guided View.
It starts at the top and then zooms in on Krang
where he says, beautiful, and it's just creepy.
That's a well -drawn Krang right there. Yeah,
very well -drawn. And we then get to Shredder,
Shredder and Metalhead, aka Donatello. And they're,
you know, talking about joining forces and taking
it to the technodrome and talking about, oh,
betrayal this and betrayal that and whatever
else. And Shetter says, I still find it difficult
to believe you would truly betray your family
in such a manner as this. And Donnie says, I'm
trying to save the world. What do you think of
Donnie? I mean, we find out later what the actual
plan is, and I love how Waltz and Eastman and
Kernel wrote this, to where they are making us
think that Donnie is going against the family.
And we find out later that that's not the case,
but what do you think of this whole arc here
with Shredder and Metalhead? While we're reading
this, when the book dropped, We have we just
came off of turtles in time where we know that
Mike Leo and Raph are dead and it's Donatello's
fault and like right after that we see Donatello
do this thing where he's going out on his own
to their enemy to their mortal enemy and trying
to make a deal and Yes, he's doing it for the
right reasons, but you're kind of you want to
shake Donatello's like what are you doing? This
isn't this is the wrong thing to do. You just
saw your Your brother's dead and you're gonna
you're gonna subject them to this you're gonna
you're gonna drive that away And make it happen.
It's it seems you're you're just kind of no,
this is not a good idea So they're they're taking
us on a ride here. Mm -hmm They're taking us
on one of the worst roller coasters in history
It's like, you know the old, you know, a hundred
year old roller coaster that could fall apart
in a second if one thing goes wrong And I just
love how Donnie is just using Metalhead because
it's a great way to incorporate Metalhead without
him needing to be a comedic character. I don't
remember if he was that comedic in the old series
or the old cartoon series or even the 2003 series.
I honestly don't remember. All I remember of
Metalhead is the toy. I don't remember him. And
from the video game. I don't remember him from
the animated series at all. Yeah, I wish I did.
But I like that they're using him in this way,
so they're paying homage to the character without
actually needing to have him as a fifth turtle.
Because Donatello's controlling him. I absolutely
love that. And Shredder goes on to say, Perhaps,
but getting an army onto Brno Island is a feat
far easier said than done. Logistical considerations
aside, Krang is sure to have his defenses on
high alert. And Donnie goes on to tell him that
he is a mutual spy, mutual friend, and then we
get Metalhead's transformation. and that's all
I can say is it is a transformation there's a
after the after the panel where he says I'll
be in touch soon to hammer out the final details
the very next panel down it reminds me so much
and I know he's not finished the transformation
yet here but it reminds me so much of friggin
t -bob from mask it kind of looks like a scooter
So we have that, and we go back to the lab. Are
you done screwing around yet, Donatello? Maybe.
Good old Kirby fan. So they're testing out the
portal. They're going to test out the portal.
We get to the other part of the team. We get
to Slash, Raph, Gacko, Leo, Herman and Mikey
and you know they're about to you know go do
the fighting and whatever else and They actually
slash look at slash slash breach I know slash
is smart now But I just have hulk's voice in
my head when he did when he does stuff when he
says stuff that that is usually a hulk speak
It's like oh god. I think that was actually that's
like somebody's command. I think who's doing.
Oh Probably Herman giving him the command to
breach the door. Yeah, probably reaching is one
of those not Call of Duty, Rainbow Six Commands,
I remember from playing that game. And they all
get ambushed. And it's a really, really interesting
fight. Because I honestly don't know who the
heck they're fighting in here. Like they're breaking
into this place. I'll let you, I remember, but
I'll let you figure it out. Oh, wait. They're
breaking into Hobbs' warehouse? What the hell?
They're training. Oh, that's right. Okay, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Dang it, I said
I was gonna let you figure it out. Dang it. I
know, I know. My fault. That's all right. But
that's, it's not, not too bad. I just, and see,
this is one of those things in the writing that
I kind of, like it makes it feel to me that they're...
That they've already done training, you know
what I mean and But yeah, no, I mean, I love
the whole thing of multiple teams and splitting
off and with as many characters as they have
now In this series, you would have to have multiple
teams, which is so great And it's interesting
to see who teams up with who Luckily, they can
all work together without any animosity other
than the animosity between them and hob and I
think that's part of the reason that they're
training too is that these guys are a lot of
them are former enemies and it's just yeah probably
a good idea to make sure everybody knows that
everybody's doing not that they can compete with
the turtles and their uh two lives worth of working
together so you know um so you know They you
know they start talking about the battle and
Rob says it'd be nice if we can get that egghead
son of yours into the mix too You're right it
does look like an egg it kind of does And Leo's
like we need to have a family meeting in private
Yeah, and then they go on to say well, but we're
all mutants. Yeah. Well, we are all mutants but
Family is a whole different kind of thing We
then get to this week's or this month's soap
opera Domesticated April and Casey and I still
I still, please, Corey Smith, please let her
hair grow out. Damn it, I still hate the short
hair on April. You mentioned the fact that they're
domestic. I don't know if I've ever gone into
this. In the later issues of the Mirage run,
yeah, they do get together. And April, in that
series, is a scientist. She worked for Baxter.
She, you know, college graduate and everything.
And when that... whole alien thing happened.
She didn't go back to being a scientist after
that, and they had the antique store burned down
just like in the movie. But she never goes back
to doing that kind of work, and her and Casey
move in together, and Casey's a mook. He doesn't
do anything, holds down the kind of car repair
type jobs, but the two of them are like... Upper
lower class or they're at the high end of low
class living in the upstairs of this antique
store and they're really Like rednecks in that
kind of way. They're grubby And I look at that
and go man, you know, the comic book thing is
supposed to be you know Bruce Wayne's a billionaire
and and Tony starts a billionaire our heroes
in the Ninja Turtles books live in a ratty apartment
above an antique store that burnt down a long
time ago and The place smells like the sewer
because their buddies who live in the sewer come
and visit them all the time and they comment
about man It stinks in here and I feel bad for
them like April you deserved so much more and
you could have brought Casey with you But instead
your lot in life is holding each other down So
I'm looking at these guys kind of I think they
have better hopes than the Mirage Casey in April
Oh, but I absolutely I just don't know if they're
gonna do it either. You know, I don't know. I
hope well, I mean they're Where are they? Are
they at? They're probably at the antique store.
Yeah, that's right. They're still at the store.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, when she goes
on to talk about, you know, talking about she
feels like she's letting the guys down and everything
else and, you know, he tries to encourage her,
which is great. I love that Casey is kind of
pulling out of this whole depressive state now.
Where he he has found a purpose and he even says
in this a couple panels ago here He says, you
know doing all this stuff around the shop and
whatever else it it feels more fun than work
and You know, that's great that we're seeing
a turnaround for Casey Which is so wonderful
because I mean, let's face it that guy's been
through way too much in 40 issues Yeah, so So
April tells Casey that You know, she says Casey
do you remember that professor who helped the
foot clan against us? Dr. Miller He says you
mean the guy with the magic book Exactly. I've
seen him sulking around campus again lately He
knows more about the foot clan than anyone else
can't hurt to see if he's feeling talkative uh...
so they kinda they don't argue about it but uh...
you know he just says you know promise me you're
gonna be careful whatever you do they kiss uh...
and she goes off and Casey just standing there
like hmm well alright that's done and I love
this whole scene here after she's gone because
he's like alright Jones the maintenance stuff
is done for the day Now it's time for some security.
He suits up and I just... I just wish... I mean,
I know that this is just a regular shirt that
he's wearing, but like when he's suited up, I
wish he had a... I don't know. It just looks
weird, the blue and the white shirt. I know that's
stupid to say, but with the mask on, he just
doesn't look as menacing as he would with a different
color on him. He's the low -budget superhero,
but in the real world, if there was going to
be a superhero, it'd be a dude wearing a hockey
mask. Character the guy who thinks he needs to
go outside and beat up purse snatchers with sporting
equipment You purse grubbing pukes So we get
back to the laboratory with Donnie and Harold
and they're testing the portal and and apparently
Donnie's coordinates are Paris and you know he
he goes and and comes back and uh he the hell
does he throw him oh he threw no i i couldn't
i i know what he throws him but it didn't in
the panel where where uh where harold says so
and then donnie says so and throws him something
the the drawing of it is kind of it's meant to
be like what the hell is that it's not too clear
that's motion lines yeah um He throws him a souvenir
of the Eiffel Tower and he says, it's raining
in Paris. So the teleporter works. We go back
to Shredder and they're basically ready to attack
Verno Island. We have Bebop, Rocksteady, Hun,
Koya, and Bludgeon. Bludgeon is just like...
bebop rocksteady and koya i can see but bludgeon
just seems to be heat the only other time that
we've seen him is in turtles in time right uh...
when uh... he's i don't think he's in turtles
in time he was when the when shredder attacked
the boat yeah issue thirty seven okay so in issue
thirty seven we only see him in the water i was
not expecting him to have like Don't know I was
expecting something completely different from
what we get from him like I would I Was expecting
him to be more like I hate to say this but be
more like fish face from the cartoon series the
the 2012 series where he has to have mechanical
legs because let's face it fish face is just
a giant fish and You know, I was expecting that,
you know a little bit more But, I mean, I don't
know, I like it. I think it's cool. I'm wondering
if he is what we get because they don't have
the rights to the shark from the Future Shark
trilogy of the Archie series, Armagon. Could
be. There's a panel I can unconscious Donatello
and his head is in Armagon, the big shark's hands,
I wonder. But, you know, we'll find out, I guess,
at some point. Yep. So they're going about giving
the plans and whatever else and apparently Shredder
has a special mission for Bebop and Rocksteady
and he and Karai have a conversation and she
basically says to him, Master, I'm not convinced
it is wise to trust the turtles. Turtle called
Domitello. I have seen them together. They are
extremely loyal to each other and even the direst
of circumstances. His son willingness to work
with you does not ring true to me. As it should
not, granddaughter, I believe we are simply the
enemy of the turtle's enemy. At the moment he
is using that fact to his advantage. So I love
how the two of them are interacting here. And
he says besides I have insured retribution Should
should this not tell her dare to betray me and
of course Rocksteady and bebop in the background
bebops like you that rock a special mission Like
I wasn't expecting Koya or bludgeon to say anything
in this entire scene, but Just the fact that
out of the four mutants that shredder has bebop
and rocksteady are the most vocal We get back
to Brno Island and Fugitoid and Baxter and they
basically have an argument back and forth, back
and forth. They supposedly team up. Now the panel
where they shake hands, is that supposed to be
a camera? No. I hope not. If there were more
reflections within the panel, I think that's
just kind of zooming in on their handshake. We
had to go back and reread this since I just read
42 today because this tells me that their game
in the next issue where they're kind of stabbing
each other in the back while Krang's watching
and laughing is not literally stabbing. But anyway,
there's a reason for it. And then we get to another
close -up shot of Krang. Can this really be happening
at long last home? And just like home and we
see that he is He's basically in the the destroyed
area of what the technodrome did earlier in this
issue That's a really interesting shot of him
when he says new trauma non Where his body's
holding him up? Wow. Here's an interesting theory
that doesn't mean anything. Crank's from Dimension
X, and I think they call it Dimension X, don't
they? So like it's a parallel universe and...
They've got to terraform Earth, that's what the
technodrome's gonna do, and it terraform this
area to make it like his home planet. I'm wondering
if, you know, kind of in that sciency thing,
if it's not just terraforming, not just changing
the air that they've gotta do, but he can't exist
in this? No, because other critters have come
and gone from that dimension, so that's out.
But I was thinking, like, he can't exist in this
dimension, this time space, and so the terraforming
is actually kind of warping the Earth's time
space. But no! Cool as that would be there are
even critters coming back and forth from dimension
X and they can breathe just fine So this is something
different. This is home planet air. Yeah, I mean
and he's standing Like I said, he's basically
standing in the destroyed area. He's not back.
No, no, no, he's you know, it's the terraformed
Right, so I would hesitate to call it destroyed
because it's just it's been changed to be his
heir and whatever else U -Trums need. But haven't
we seen him? We've seen him in the past. He's
been in the suit. Quote -unquote in the past
when he was on Earth. That wasn't Earth. That
was his. Oh, that's right. That was the other.
And the U -Trums that were on Earth. in the past
with the dinosaurs were in suits, were in the
little capsules. They can't live on Earth. And
Shredder, when they were battling each other,
cracked the glass and Krang had to back off because
he wouldn't make it. That's right, that's right.
Okay, okay. I'm straight now. All right. Well,
we get a really nice panel of... All is I can
think of is friggin hot rod from 86 here Ultra
Magnus here is the matrix because we get a really
nice shot of the body holding crying up and we
have the technodrome in the background With the
eyeball and the blast of air and everything else
and that's kind of how this one ends where it's
to be continued where he is terraformed part
of the city and I For a first part it said that
they do so well in the writing korey smith on
the art i'm loving i don't think at this point
i don't think i've enjoyed the design of crying
himself yeah until so much until korey smith
got ahold of him cuz he doesn't look is grotesque
and he doesn't make my stomach churn as much
as the other side of the path uh... but absolutely
loving loving this and you know again the writing
they're pulling us into the path of all of these
things happening and you have so much going on
here but it makes so much sense all at the same
time usually when you have so many different
characters and so many different storylines something
gets lost along the way nothing gets lost along
the weather darkness picking it up absolutely
You know something I realized looking at that
last page that my webcam looks like the technodrome
eye Okay now that that's just creepy That's just
creepy you have a technodrome eye as your webcam
I totally do oh my god That's just creepy as
all I am. Now I want the old technodrome toy
and I'll just mount my webcam on top of it. Wow.
Let's get a broken one. Oh wow, that's crazy.
That is so crazy. Oh man. So do you want to take
a break for 442? Uh, yeah, we're gonna take a
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issue 42. The main cover, cover A, is the Shredder
and... Kitsune in the background? Yeah. Shredder
and Kitsune at the top of the city. Karai and
Hun in the middle, and then all the mutants around
them, Koya, Bludgeon, Rocksteady and Bebop. I
like this cover, but... wish they would have
done something a little bit more interesting
I Mean, I know what last issue It was the turtles
running down the technical room in the eye getting
ready to fire and this is basically showing off
the villains But it's not showing off all the
villains that the turtles have to go out. I don't
know I kind of I Like the cover design overall,
but I wish it just kind of I don't know. It's
just weird Yeah, there's there's something about
the composition. That's not the strongest yeah
and If I analyze that it would feel too much
like work, so I'm not going to I Actually out
of on this issue. I actually prefer Eastman's
cover be that's a first. Oh, I gotta go. I know
right It's oh yeah, that actually is kind of
cool It's a black and red reddish pink cover
with Basically classic 87 shredder. I mean granted.
He's in black and red and silver, but I mean
if you look at that design he pretty much nailed
the classic 87 shredder face mask and shoulder
blades and Whatever else yeah, those wrist blades
are definitely 87 version not oh Absolutely,
I guess the shoulders and that snuggie around
his neck or this version, but Yeah, yeah, yeah,
the snuggie around his neck. At least it's not
draping halfway down the front of him But that
that whole helmet and face mac and mask is definitely
87 I hope if they do another cover like this
that they really do a good homage to the 90 Shredder
Design that would be amazing from them from the
movie That's still my favorite version of the
shredder both attitude voice how he carries himself
a big fan of that so we start off issue 42 with
you know, everybody's getting everything loaded
attack on technical part two and We have We have
a hub, you know, this cat's ready to rumble And
he asked them if they're getting cold feet and
whatever else and come to find out that We're
amphibians. Of course we have cold feet. No,
they don't actually say that but they should
Wow There's a rimshot app when you really need
one So come to find out Raph Leo and Mikey are
not going with splinter and old hob and the rest
of the games kind of announced this as they're
loading up for this mission that they've been
training for for I Don't know how many imaginary
weeks Yeah, and you know basically Raph is like
you heard him furball. We got other things. We
got a handle And hob is thinking that he's going
that they're gonna betray him and everything
else and and uh you know and I almost wish this
moment was more Raph being emotional than Mikey
but I do like where you know the panel where
Mikey's like guys I'm really scared this whole
thing what if you know and Splinter calms him
and they all bow to each other and the three
turtles walk off and and hob goes on to say well
first we're missing one which was bad enough
now all four are history you realize this little
rump's gonna be a hell of a lot harder without
their help right rat? he would be correct old
hob oh i see now i see what they did When we
get to the next panel here where Splinter says
in the in the quotations if it were true that
my sons are no longer helping us And we see Brunei
Island and see I thought that from the previous
image that I was talking about in 41 I Didn't
like I just thought it was a few buildings. I
didn't realize it was an entire city on the island
that has built up like see I thought It was showing
it in the middle like it just you know came up
from the ground Like in the old animated series
in the middle of the middle of New York I think
this thing's gonna end up underground at some
point at least I hope it does just to you know
do the homage thing, but Absolutely, that would
be awesome Issue 100 it comes up in the middle
of New York As long as we can get past the 73
curse sure yep So, Baxter and Fugitoid start
what I assume is their charade. Yeah, now that
I've seen and remember what happened last month,
I'm looking at this going, oh, maybe they're
doing that on purpose. Right. And Fugitoid says,
I have intelligence that Shredder and the Foot
are attacking the island today. And we switch
to the next panel and you just see crying, what
did you say? The colors from Rhonda Pattinson.
Pattison. The design from Corey Smith. This is
one of the best panels with Krang in it. This
is so great. Absolutely amazing. Krang basically
grabs him by the throat which isn't going to
do anything. It's a robot. He's demanding that
Fugitoid tell him who. And as this thing goes
along, we see that Stockman is going to betray
Honeycutt. That's where I kind of lost the whole
thing with the Charade, because it's like, is
he really doing this? Yeah, it's hard to tell,
and you don't know for a good long while what
this is about. Yeah. And the Turtles go to Harold's
Workshop. And it turns out that they are indeed
all working together. And Mikey puts on some
sort of gadget. I don't know what the hell that
thing is. This is so funny. He puts on the gadget.
The next panel is, hey, put that down. It's Metalhead
against Mikey. But it's it's Harold doing the
remotes the remote access like Donnie's did when
when he sent it to shredder and obviously Donnie
doesn't want anybody, you know that they care
about to have Have you know in close proximity
of all the destruction so he kind of sent Harold
to a different location and he's remote controlling
the thing What do you think of the four of them
coming back together now? Well knowing that they
never really actually broke up It feels a lot
better knowing that they're together. I'm regaining
confidence in the team at this point. They had
me worried and worried in a good dramatic kind
of, I want to know what happens next way, but
this is our chance to kind of take a breath and
go, okay, they're still together and that counts.
That's good. And this is where Donnie tells him
that, you know, You know, you three can go through
now, but I'm not going and Leo's like, wait,
what? And he's like, well, somebody's got to
work, you know, sit here and work the machines
and with Harold off site and, you know, I'm not
going and, and we get the teleporter. Thankfully
they aren't transported to another dimensions,
New York city, which we will talk about next
time around when we talk about the TMNT Ghostbusters
four issue mini series. uh... and he says just
one more thing i want you all to know i i really
love you guys and uh... you know they go through
the portal uh... and we then see it's so uh...
i love metalhead in this series because since
he's been introduced And since he's a controllable
robot and he doesn't have, at least to this point,
he doesn't have his own sentience, it's so weird
seeing him in the different situations that they
put him in. He is now with the Shredder. Well,
before we go there, we're missing a very important
moment. As the turtles step into the portal,
Donnie says, hey, one more thing. I really love
you guys. And Leo, Mike, Don, I'm sorry, Leo,
Mike and Raff are like, yeah, us too, bro. And
they're gone. And over the com, Harold says why
didn't you tell them and Don says they've got
enough to worry about This moment has me concerned
because of turtles in time That like does Donnie
know that they're gonna die and of course, they're
not gonna die It's a ninja turtles. It's a comic
book and they can't kill off three of their main
characters and have it be Donatello the Teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtle It wouldn't be but that moment
gives me something to worry about and I'm concerned,
you know What's gonna happen there? So that they're
planting a seed and it's I'm sure going to pay
off before the end of War on the technodrome
Yeah So shredder and the troops arrive because
they're led by metalhead they get into the shop
and I Swear bebop and rocksteady are just like
Mikey check it out Not now, Harold, and who might
that be? Just someone who's gonna help you get
to Brunei Island. Are you ready? And they talk
about Double Cross, and apparently the special
mission for Bebop and Rocksteady is they're gonna
stay there and babysit Donatello. Bebop's hand
is cradling Donnie's head and he's giving him
that brother punch in the arm, which probably
hurts a real lot. It's so hilarious. It really,
really is. Where are your babysitters? I love
what they've done with those two. They're so
entertaining while not being childish and silly.
Yep. So they all enter the portal and Shredder's
like, remember Donatello, betrayal is death.
Yeah, death. Because he had there's no one turtle
against those two is as bad as they screwed up
a team of seven I think one turtle doesn't stand
a chance unless Donnie he's playing the head.
He's no Batman. He doesn't have a way out yet
But Donnie's a fast thinker okay, sure Donnie
is no Batman. He doesn't have you know The next
twenty steps planned out, but he's a fast thinker.
He can get out of any situation and all he really
has to do is run away. Well, he has to. He has
to run away in a way where he takes them with
him, but then loses them after he's out of. Harold's
workshop because he can't just escape and leave
them there because knowing the two of them They'll
either you know top of the building down on top
of themselves or they'll do something to the
portal that screws everything up and next thing
you know we'll have Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
meets My Little Pony or Transformers or X - Well,
we already had X -Files or, you know, Spyro and
Skylanders or something. And I hear IDW is doing
Disney Comics soon, so we might get missing Scrooge
McDuck. Guys, we fit in here! Can anybody understand
what that duck dressed up like a sailor is saying?
Oh dude, if they could get Ace, oh crap, I forgot
if we asked, I'll have to go back and listen
to our interview with Bobby if we asked him about
Ace the Duck. That would be amazing if they could
get Ace in this series. If Ace Duck comes from
the Disneyverse, I don't know if that's a good
idea or a genius idea, I can't tell. Ace Duck
is Launch Pad. Oh my god, you're right. Oh my
god, that's hilarious. Okay back to the right
so it's great. No, no, it's it's on topic So
we end with We end with betrayal is death in
this in this page here and now Rock's day is
like and people like dad So we get to professor
Miller, I believe Miller is yeah, yeah professor
Miller and it's April she's waiting in his office
and She is basically enlisting his help You know
and he's worried about his safety and all this
and all that and And he says to her, uh, so what,
you know, he's, she says, good, I'm glad we're
in agreement. You help us and we help you. Good.
So what do you have planned? Honestly, professor,
that's still part, still a work in progress.
So we get back to hub and gecko and all of them
and splinter. And they are, and then this is
where we find out. the master plan of the turtles
because you know we go back to earlier and I
don't know how earlier this is like I wish Bobby
or Tom or somebody would have said right after
turtles in time or right after issue this or
issue that it just says earlier Don't know if
it's earlier that day that they finally revealed
it to him. Yeah, it was it was before they went
and Told old hob I mean it was right before they
went and told old hob that they weren't gonna
be there Okay, they left it to the last minute
to tell splinter because he was kind of freaking
out Yeah, and this is where we get the master
plan reveal. What do you think of this master
plan? I Am impressed at its complexity And it
almost I don't know. It kind of felt like they
were setting this up for a long time. And yeah,
I mean, I guess it was a long time ago when when
Donnie left because he was tired of listening
to them. That was like four or five issues ago.
It almost feels like this is kind of, hey, guys,
wouldn't it be cool if when they were writing
like the issue before? But no, they're too smart
to plan that short ad. They knew this was coming.
I gotta have faith in them So I'm impressed at
the complexity and it's that kind of dangerous
complexity where there's double double crossing
They've got their backs their their bases covered
where I'm afraid that something isn't gonna go
right something's gonna lose but absolutely I'm
loving the plan yeah I love that they and I really
do enjoy that they kept splinter in the dark
for this long because it's not that they didn't
trust him but they needed to be really you know
and he says why didn't you tell me of this earlier
we honestly we wanted you We wanted to do to
father but we were so focused on going after
shredder that we or you were so focused on going
after we just didn't know how to include you
without risking the plan and I just absolutely
love that um, and I love I love his reaction
to it that he's truly impressed by them and We
get yeah what that moment is too is it's leo
coming into his own as the leader Where splinters?
Maybe not exactly seeing him as an equal, but
he's getting there. And I admire that. And the
one thing I love about this series, and it's
really coming to fruition here in this issue,
is that it's not just Leo. Yes, Leo is the leader.
We all know through the last 31 years of the
franchise that Leo has always been the leader.
But in this series, in this plan, it's all of
them. It's not just Leo. It's Leo and Donnie
and Raph and Mikey. It's all four of them. I'm
not sure how much Raph and Mikey actually contributed
to it, but, you know, it's the four brothers
making a plan, sticking to it, and they're gonna
kill two birds with one stone. Hopefully. Hopefully
is the key word there. Hopefully. So wait, what
is Old Hob attacking? I thought he was attacking
Stock Gen. Because they mention here that...
they're gonna go well no okay they're gonna go
attack stock gen the three turtles didn't teleport
to burnout island like they told the shredder
they were going to do they teleported to the
abandoned foot headquarters and they're gonna
trash it and they're gonna let shredder and crank
beat the snot out of each other yeah while there
must be an inside job destroying the technodrome
who's doing that that's maybe it is That's honey
-cut. Yeah, that would make sense. So I don't
even think we know what this whole plan is. Donnie
and I, I'd have to reread this whole page and
I don't want to do that to our listeners. Be
silent for like three minutes. You know, so and
Leo's ends with our plan father. We're all in
this together now and if it works out, if our
luck holds, you know. We then cut to Shredder
and the Foot against planning an attack on Bernal
Island. I love the background colors in this.
I love their juxtaposition against the... Go
ahead. Found it. Sorry, I interrupted that train
of thought. Go ahead. Shredder has no clue that
Krang is going to be waiting for him because
Honeycutt warned him that they're coming. And
he ain't heard nothing yet since, say, tell him
the rest, Leo, Raph says. Well, while Shredder
and Krang go at it... And while you and old Hob's
gang attacked the poorly -defendant Foot headquarters,
they're not doing StockGen yet? No, they're not
doing StockGen. StockGen's gone, remember? Burnout
Island is the new StockGen. StockGen in itself
is gone, right? I don't know if it's completely
gone. The scientists were still there. I mean,
that's where they got Slash from, because it
was still operating. I don't know if they took
out the whole thing. I know StockMen's gone,
but... Yeah, because he's with Kraeng and Fugitoid.
What beef does Old Hob have with Shredder? I
thought he was on his old anti -mutant kick,
and we're gonna go destroy those people who painfully
created all of us mutants. That's what it is.
That's what it is. Well, but... Oh man, you're
making my head hurt. So now we need to figure
that out, but at least now I know that the rest
of us, Don, Mike, and Leo... Or I'm Mike Leo
and Raph are gonna go do the technodrome thing
with fugitoids help Okay, now I got it okay,
and So we get to this big battle scene with all
of Krang's rock soldiers in army and marine type
fatigue things and you know an amazing shot to
the red I have to call him this because it looks
like the red skull foot soldier to shredder's
left He gets basically she gets his face shot
off And cranks like welcome to burnout island
They're like protect the master you can try and
then we have oh man I wish I had I might have
to have a buddy of mine take these two panels
because I know in yours It's on one page, but
on mine with the guided view on comixology the
annihilate them and foot attack is two separate
up -and -down panels I'm gonna have to have a
buddy of mine take these two panels and mesh
them together as one image because that just
is amazing That's awesome So, we start out an
all -out battle between the foot and Krang's
troops. And, you know, they're going to, you
know... Basically, General Krang says, Grenadier,
trag with me. Our forces can finish the others.
We have other business to attend to. And it's...
That's the final page and it's a to be continued
and that full page there with Krang and His two
generals there and then shred it's so weird that
they put shredder and his for in the rest of
the forces On the side of being in front of the
technodrome in the final page. It looks amazing
But it's just it's a little strange to me, but
I love that final page And that is so badass
Overall thoughts on issue 42, sir? This was the
most tense and exciting one I've read in a while.
I always enjoy those moments of drama and of
family and that really came out with Leo explaining
the plan to Splinter and having Splinter kind
of snap out of his weird little funk that he's
been in since Northampton. Yeah, that's true.
Very true. Yeah, so that's Attack on Technodrome
parts 1 and 2. So far, it's a slow build, but
it's not a bad slow build because we have so
much action going on and we have all these different
working parts to the whole thing. Just absolutely
loving it. These teams, the writing team, the
art team, they honestly can do no wrong at this
point. Short of a my little pony crossover that
you mentioned earlier. I don't think they can
do any wrong Well, you know If they can cross
over with Ghostbusters, I mean You know and I
only brought that up in case you know, you know
when we were talking about Donnie's, you know
potential escape plan Getting away from like
if he left Bebop and Rocksteady in Harold's lab,
you know But those two, if they were left to
their own devices with a teleporter, I mean,
OK. So if you don't want a My Little Pony crossover,
what if they tapped into the federation and brought
the USS Enterprise into the train? You know what
I'm saying? It's like, if you leave Bebop and
Rocksteady to their own devices in a place where
there is a teleporter, And potentially there's
something that could go wrong with the teleporter
where it reaches into another dimension or another
timeline. There's so many things that go wrong.
Just so many things. It's like Bebop and Rox
today are those kids. Do not touch anything.
They're worse than Mikey. Oh yeah. All right,
folks. What do you got going on with your garage
sale aren't you having a summer garage sale?
I mean, I know it's still January here, but I
mean we came off the Christmas one and Folks
are always asking for another one. There's one
of those coming up in June, probably the second
or third week. That's in Grand Rapids, Michigan
on the north end of town here. We'll do that.
We have a new location because our beloved comic
store that we had been hosting it at in their
parking lot closed. We lost apparitions in Grand
Rapids. Sad day, but the geek sale will live
on and continue in June. awesome awesome how's
your shredder costume going I haven't touched
it because it's cold outside and I don't weld
when it's 19 degrees but I do have the gauntlets
and we'll get those we'll get those on someday
alright folks that's gonna do it for January
first first month of year three of the pull bag
so this month we have had uh... we had finally
i got around to doing dark horse comics are to
reader issues one through four uh... written
by gail simone and origins of the so without
the bottomless and last week we had messes universe
uh... he messes universe thirteen to nineteen
uh... coming up in february as i mentioned last
week uh... episode ninety eight if i can get
the trade by that time it's going to be grim
fairy tales robin hood origin and it's are all
be why and it's a female robin hood there reinvent
the Robin Hood story. Potentially for Valentine's
Day we're gonna do Punisher Bloody Valentine.
And third week in February it's gonna be Steve
Megatron and I doing Batman Beyond 10 ,000 Clowns
and Batgirl Beyond and we will probably do another
Transformers coverage at the end of February
and then Marvelous March kicks off this year
we're doing Last year, when I first started Marvelous
March and doing Marvel coverage, I wanted to
pretty much cover a lot of classic stories from
classic characters. So we had Captain America
and Hulk and Spider -Man and Wolverine and Iron
Man. This year, we're going to continue with
those same characters, but we're going to pretty
much limit it. It's not going to be limited,
but we're going to do, instead of classic stories,
we're going to do modern coverage. I'm going
to cover Savage Wolverine Volume 1. uh... jeremy
fine and i are gonna finish up the avengers and
x -men access issues and uh... avengers and x
-men access uh... revolutions one through four
uh... and then i'm gonna do iron man volume one
believe in superior iron man issues one through
four This might change, but I'm not sure yet
and finally for marvelous March will do amazing
spider -man volume one This is the new series.
This is after he came back from the dead yet
again I was loving superior so much. I wish they
would have never brought Peter back Not having
read the series yet. I say that but you know
it's just one of those things I'm really upset
that Brian Bendis brought back Peter Parker in
Ultimate Spider -Man 2 also Like if I could have
counted on one person to kill off a character
and not bring him back It would have been Brian
Bendis because he loves Spider -Man and he's
been itching for a chance to do his own Spider
-Man That's what Miles Morales Spider -Man is
but what do you know Bendis? You brought Peter
Parker back? He's not spider -man. He's gone
off on his own. He's on gone into hiding I don't
think we're gonna see him for a while, but dang
it. He's alive and I feel cheated Next time you're
gonna hear Joe and I talk about issues 43 and
44 before that we'll probably do the TMNT Ghostbusters
crossover that's gonna be interesting and at
some point I'd like to do our Is that yeah the
25th anniversary of the 1990 movie I'm Still
a great film and and we need to do a commentary
to that I think oh Yeah As long as the commentary
isn't us just reciting the entire movie, because
that is what it could very easily be. I'd like
not to do that, but I can't make any promises,
listeners. No, we can't. And that's another thing
I want to bring up, folks. We're at the, like
I said, we're at the fourth week of January here,
January 28th, 2014. Don't know how many I'm calling
them comic Terry's because commentary on a just
calling it a commentary on a on a Comic podcast
just seems a little strange to me But we are
gonna do a couple of commentaries or comic Terry's
this year. We're not gonna do a lot of them So
but turtles will definitely be one since the
film is 25 years old So Oh god, that means that
two years ago, the third film was 20 years old.
Oh my god. Oh, it hurts. So, but yeah, no, there's
gonna be plenty of Turtles coverage here in 2015
for the pull bag. And I'm sure at some point,
Joe and I will be doing some other stuff. Like
I know we've mentioned about getting into the
Ghostbusters series, even though I think that...
either has already or will end at some point.
I have a feeling it's just going to get renumbered
and continue. I don't know IDW doesn't do as
far as my my experience with IDW I haven't seen
them do like a Marvel thing or a DC thing where
they you know start over and renumber. The Ghostbusters
already did. Okay, after I think 13 it got renumbered
no they did that they did a real Ghostbusters
line where the Ghostbusters are trapped in an
alternate dimension and Janine and a couple other
background characters strapped on packs and replaced
them and When the Ghostbusters came back and
started over at one But I've I've also heard
that it's ending But it was kind of said with
this weird little wink and I wasn't sure if it's
ending or if it's restarting. So we'll find out.
But it's a terrific series with a lot of love
for both the animated TV show and the movies.
And even the video game. They bring in the cool
Xbox 360 PS3 video game. Awesome. Alright folks,
that's gonna do it for us. Make your great escape
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