The Pull Bag
Hot Damn Review

About this Episode
Hot damn I'm Ryan Ferrier and you're listening
to the GCRN's comic podcast The Pullback. In
this episode Mike and Nicole have joined us in
hell. How bizarre is that? Hear them talk about
my new series from IDW publishing entitled Hot
Damn, only on the GeekCast radio network. Hello
and welcome to The Pullback. This is the month
of May and we're not doing Batman month this
year. I know everyone's really really sad about
that. I just, I want, okay, so I went back to
the pull bag's very first introductory episode,
episode zero, and I listened to what Steve and
I, how Steve Megatron and I, TF2 and Mike introduced
the pull bag four years ago. And in one of them,
one of the things he says is that what he, one
of those storylines he liked the best was Batman
Nightfall. So I go on Comixology and I'm looking
for it and looking for it and I see they have
the three... big giant trades on there. While
I'm all about digital comics, I'm not paying
60 bucks for three trades on digital right now.
So, Batman Month has kind of been cancelled this
year. Maybe next year for year five of the show
after doing this thing for five years. Maybe
we'll do it then. We will have a Batman episode
this month, but... coming up here inside the
pull bag for may twenty sixteen in this episode
we're going to be doing all back issue classics
because we just released at the end of april
we released uh... uh... episode where the hell
i'm sorry i'm just not thinking today folks the
end of march we released episode one thirty six
which is our idw deviations episode If anyone
knows me and has known me in the podcasting for
the last six or seven years, I apologize. First
of all, Oh, the deviations. No, I talked about
knowing you for all these years. I'll introduce
that voice here in a minute, but you already
know who it is, folks. So basically, back at
the end of March, we had episode 136, the IDW
Deviations episode. And anyone that has known
me through the podcasting, whether a listener
or a crazy co -host, knows that I always have
to make a certain 37 joke. And episode 137 of
The Pull Bag is coming up. So I'm like, okay,
we're gonna postpone that till June, and we'll
just do four or five back -issue classics. It's
my way around the numbering of the episodes,
because I actually found out that there is a
Clerks the Comic adaptation of the film. So,
yeah, joining me, of course, after all this time
of me talking and acting like Kevin Smith's,
you know, long -ass intros. Nicole, Beatles Diva
Hillstorm, hello. Hi. Yeah. Hi. And we are here
and once again, thank you so much to Ryan Ferrier
We're here to talk about IDW and Ryan Ferrier's
along with Valentine Ramones hot damn hot damn
number two is Out right now as of this recording
is out this Wednesday May 4th May the 4th be
with you, especially with this series hot damn
So we're gonna try our best I will specifically
I'm gonna try my best not to spoil every single
thing in this comic because we are doing this
before it actually releases so But Ryan came
on Ryan gave us that really really cool in cool
new intros. So thank you so much to Ryan he This
past weekend was at the what did he say Calgary
comic and Entertainment Expo? I believe it was
yeah So he was up in his hometown of Calgary
and Canada up there doing a convention this past
weekend So I'm sure that was a lot of fun for
him Let's jump right into it for a hot damn number
two first of all I didn't like I guess I wasn't
really realizing that It was gonna be so close
between the first review and the second really.
I wasn't really realizing that, oh, goddamn,
it's gonna come out at the beginning of the month,
because I'm so used to a lot of the IDW comics
we talk about coming out at the end of the month.
Because, let's face it, certain comics at IDW
always get held up by diamond or some stupid
thing or, you know, trucks go missing or de Plaine
de Plaine ends up in Germany or some weird shipping
malfunction. Not IDW's fault, but still yeah,
I always used to be more IDW than the other two
major ones Yeah, it's the curse of IDW sadly
it's you got to break that curse Okay, so hot
damn number two we have two covers we have the
main cover and we have the subscription cover
Which one do you like better? I love that subscription
cover I I guess it's because my second homes
in Las Vegas, so it's kind of like okay It has
a special meaning Yeah, oh the covers Did you
look at what it says on the when the jackpot
three skulls and in in line will do it Jackpot
is additional to the regular reward You really
need this I like that instead of money you insert
your soul Yeah, I Don't even want to know I think
that's is You know, that's a bunch of bones enough
and oh, it's a skull machine. Yeah, it's cool.
So they're all like femurs and Yeah, it's cool.
I like how it looks looks great Yeah, that reward
doesn't look like it's worth anything Maggots
and guts So we've got this as usual Ryan Ferrier
on writing valance and Ramon On illustration
edited by Dave Hedgecock and obviously I do these
publishers Ted Adams We start off back in group
Almost no way we start off with meeting Joe Gotta
meet the cup of Joe because that's where the
first is does the first issue left off was we
got introduced to Satan What do you think of
this whole thing the whole meeting here well,
I mean I want to know what Satan's up to because
I'm pretty sure he's a busy guy and he's not
just gonna have a casual cup of coffee with some
new recruit so it's kind of like he's being Satan
he is trying to be the good guy he's trying to
be your best friend but in the end it's all gonna
be about him so it's kind of like don't fall
for it don't fall for his gimmicks yeah no don't
don't follow don't won't fall for that serpent
feeding you that apple exactly oh boy uh all
right so since we're not gonna really we're not
gonna try to spoil too much of the actual story
here what do you think of satan's office joe's
office here i i actually i just can't get over
his outfit his outfit is one of those prudish
frat boy kind of looks. And I'm just like, I
wouldn't be wanting to speak to you just because
of that. If Ellington had changed the shirt to
be like a Hawaiian shirt, I would find it extremely
ironic because one of my buddies, Joe Reed, that
does the turtles comics with me, he wears Hawaiian
shirts all the time. Hawaiian shirts are awesome.
Yeah. So Joe and and Teddy have a sit down here
You know I Don't I don't even think I can not
spoil this stuff Just so funny Like I said Satan's
being the charmer that he is yeah, so You can
just imagine the BS that he's feeding him right
now. Mm -hmm. Oh, he made a joke. I think it's
later. Somebody made a joke somewhere about...
Oh, I should mention this episode, even though
it's been a while since the event happened, but
this episode of the Pull Bag, because reading
through this comic basically reminded me of...
Almost everything to do with heaven and hell
and God and Satan and dogma So this episode of
the podcast is dedicated to the late great Alan
Rickman Because of a scene that's going to be
coming up in this up in this in in this issue
here back in the old days God was vengeful and
hot -tempered and His wrath was bore by the angel
of death named Loki When Sodom and Gomorrah was
destroyed that was Loki when the waters wiped
out everything with the exception of Noah and
his menagerie, that was Loki. And he was good
at what he did. But one day, he refused to bear
God's wrath any longer. Why? He listened to his
friend, a Gregori, by the name of Bartleby. Gregori?
One of the choirs of angels. They're called Watchers.
Kiss what they do. So one day, Loki's wiping
out all the firstborn of Egypt. Ah, the 10th
plague. Tell a person that you're the Metatron
and they stare at you blankly. Mention something
out of a Charlton Heston movie and suddenly everybody's
a theology scholar. May I continue uninterrupted?
Once he's done with the firstborn, Loki takes
his friend Bartleby out for a post -slaughter
drink. And over many rounds, they get into this
discussion about whether or not murder in the
name of God is okay. And in the end, Bartleby
convinces Loki to quit his position and take
one which doesn't involve slaughter. So, very
inebriated, Loki tells God he quits, throws down
his fiery sword, and gives him the finger, which
ruins it for the rest of us, because from that
day forward, God decreed that angels could no
longer imbibe alcohol, hence all the spitting.
So Teddy gets back to Costello. They have to
go to this... What is it? Maleficent or something
or other the punishment? Yeah for doing the the
the possession in the first issue So they go
back to group or well Teddy goes back to group
and he's having a great time you Yeah So the
other two people in like there's only four people
in the group this time like Really? Well, it's
three people. It's the counselor and three other
people. It's Teddy and two others. Wow, the group
really shortened up, didn't it? Well, I'm pretty
sure there's several groups, just like there's
several AA meetings in a day. Yeah, that's true.
So Abaddon asks Teddy... Will say this evidence
asks him to tell Tell us something good forget
the sins for a sec. What's your happiest moment?
Something bubbly and rosy and full of puppy dogs
and go go now I was hoping there was gonna be
puppy dogs Yeah, we've got enough of those in
kennel block. We don't need puppy dogs in hell.
I have too many puppy dogs Yeah, yes, you can
no you can't Yes, you can you're wrong No, I'm
not so we get it puppy dogs Unless they're in
this shelter than you have too many puppy dogs
So we go into the flashback and once again Valentine
showing off the past as well as the sins that
got you into hell with the black and white on
the past as far as the actual time and then the
colors on just what they're you know what what
they're going to be doing here um and he basically
tells the story of how he met um met his wife
or his girlfriend or whoever she's supposed to
be i think it's his wife yeah probably um what
do we think of of these two flashback pages here
oh i i like how it starts off okay I don't know
if they did this on purpose, but I love how it's
all black and white, but there's just a little
bit of color that makes you focus in on that
particular object. And I like how it gets brighter
and brighter as it goes on, as he keeps on telling
his story, you know, because he's getting to
the happy part of the story. So it starts off
really dark and then it gets to be more colorful
at the end. And I really liked how they did that.
And I really like his wife. She's a person that
I could tell that I liked from the moment that
I met her just because she's looking out for
him and she's not using him like his other friends.
And so, but I hope she doesn't change because
I really want to like her. yeah because there's
certain other things in this story we'll get
to it it's just like oh i want to like you please
yep um yeah i want to really like her as well
and and like you said i mean the whole infusion
of color on the black and white like this is
really really cool the way you know because i
didn't think of it in the way that you had said
last time when we did the first issue where the
the the color stuff is essentially the sins and
the only thing i have to disagree with on the
sins but i'm glad it's colored as i'm sorry those
waffles are not that sinful i mean those waffles
are no no this is this is the exact opposite
this is his happy moments yeah so this isn't
that's totally different from this issue because
i don't see balloons being sinful Well, I mean
waffles can be simple if it's gluttony I mean
if you take it to the extreme Go to steak and
shake and get all you can eat pancakes Really
take advantage of it. Yeah Alright, so we come
out of the flashback. We're going to we're going
with Teddy and Costello to the Hurt Depot Geez
so we're going to the Hurt Depot so they can
have their their their punishment and this new
character Polyphosaur or whatever his name is.
What do you think of that design there? I've
seen something familiar to this in the Dark Tower
series and I love it, you know The half man half
bird. I love it. It's Kind of creepy Like how
his torture devices Yeah, I don't know if his
design and his look would really help the torture
devices cuz that I'm sorry. I have to say it.
I cannot not spoil this the torture devices are
friggin Legos. I Don't know if you should have
spoiled that Because it all is okay in all honesty
that is one thing that everyone has experienced
and it's not fun So I don't really like that
that they use common objects instead because
when you meet this This creature, I guess, you
know I mean he has these painful metal objects
and then next thing you go to his Legos. It's
It just shows Ryan and Valentine's Sense of irony
sense of humor sense of oh my god. What are they
gonna hit us over the head with now? There was
When we put out the first episode The episode
for the first issue review He actually tweeted
us and said oh my god you guys because I I had
to, how can I not sit here and go back to OMC
and record part of how bizarre to put it in the,
how can I not do that? He basically stepped up
to the plate and gave me that right there. so
he tweeted at me saying oh you guys are crazy
or something or other and it's just one of those
things where now I'm actively in the rest of
these this issue specifically and then issues
three three four and five I'm actively looking
for stuff that I can grab this wrong it's just
so so good all right what else we got with this
one so yeah they're uh they're taking their punishment
um what is the is that supposed to be sunny d
no it's tearful shampoo is it tear tear free
that's right i remember as a kid johnson and
johnson tearless shampoo good lord so after their
uh or during their their punishment we then go
to heaven and I got to say, I'm not going to
spoil a lot of this, but I got to say this whole
heaven scene was just weird. Did you find this
weird? Not a place at all? This is what's good.
I really, the hell part is awesome. And then
when we get to heaven, it's just like, this is
heaven. First, you know why it's not heaven.
They're speaking in text. They're doing text
type. And I'm like, that to me is hell. Okay.
Not your freaking words. Yeah, I don't know it
just This whole scene with the angels and this
is where I got the whole thing and went back
to the Alan Rickman thing for dogma with the
the angels getting drunk in this issue and I
immediately thought of oh That's because it's
you know, I thought of dogma I just want to know
the reason. Because if you think about it, Teddy
is in hell because of his alcoholism. Right.
So why would the temptation of alcohol and possibly
alcoholism be in heaven? Yeah, maybe because
God looks like Aquaman. I swear he looks like
Aquaman from Brave and the Bold. Outrageous!
I do like this heaven scene. I like how you can
see more of their wings. And how it's not really
comfortable for them. Right. I do like that.
Yup. So as the heaven scene goes along We have
these two angels who He he's trying it's It's
a whole friendzone thing folks, that's all I'm
gonna say it's a whole friendzone things And
then we have more drama with that we go back
to hell We have Teddy and Costello dealing with
the The the aftermath of their punishment or
I assume the punishment thing is gonna be a weekly
thing or something I don't know how long that's
gonna I mean it is hell after all you're supposed
to be there to be punished So funny So they basically
want to go Costello wants to go out and have
them get wasted And they go to your mama's face
Okay, this is sounds so weird Between this this
place that they went to and last at last issue
It kind of reminds me of a sushi place in Las
Vegas If you guys want it has some entertainment
Go look up sushi loco in las vegas look at their
menu you'll be cracking up for like five minutes
that's what i think it just reminded me because
that's kind of i think that's one of their sushi
rolls as you promised me or something like that
yeah one of the panels in this page has the two
of them just cackling the the the middle uh top
middle panel on the page here and all's i can
think of is they're hulk they're teddy and costello
are what if hulk and rudolph had a baby they're
green with red noses like oh god jim carries
the grinch can't have nothing on these people
the only thing i wanted to be able to make out
and i can't because we're using the idw maybe
you've made it out the only thing i can't make
out because we're using the idw preview copy
or the review copy i want to know what it says
on the balloon on the balloon it says best best
friends maybe that logo is right on there yeah
best god yeah I can't I can't I've been yeah
that's one of the things I want to know I want
to know what it says in the balloon yeah so we
go to another scene here and I have this isn't
this is gonna be a spoiler but I just I find
this just absolutely hilariously Earth, St. Mary's
blessed sacred holy heart of perpetual immaculate
light mission of the Sunset Mega Church. Oh my
god. That puts a bunch of religions into one
nutshell, I guess. Yeah, pretty much. All they're
missing is the Latter -day Saints. Uh, can't
do that. According to many people, we're not
Christians. That's wrong people. So why I even
brought that up is because I remember those old
commercials from the 80s talking about the Latter
Day Saints. Oh yeah. They're good harder commercials.
It's a good reminder. People, don't be a douchebag.
Be kind to one another. Yup. I guess it's pretty
sad when people need a reminder for that, though.
Yeah, I know. So these next two pages here at
the church, at the mega church. And again, where
was it? At the church itself, there was something
somewhere in this issue. I think it's later.
So we're at the, we're at the mega church and
we have, um, Teddy's wife whose name escapes
me at the moment. I believe it's Maria. I think
that's what it is. I'm bad. I apologize. Really,
really, really bad. And I, I should have paid
attention a little bit more, even though I did,
but she is at confessional. And she's basically
trying to confess that she doesn't really...
She doesn't know if she has the strength to get
over Teddy. Anyway, I understand where she's
coming from, you know? They changed each other's
lives. Yep. All of a sudden he's gone. I feel
sorry for her. Yeah, I do too. I mean Because
I want to know more about I mean Ryan or valentine
have given us glimpses into their life together
And I know the whole point of the comic is you
know, right? Teddy's life in hell, but I want
more scenes with their past like figuring out
kind of how they met in that kind of thing And
I'm hoping that will be in the next few issues.
So, you know Absolutely so we go back to heaven
and What's his name? Is it Adriel again? I'm
so hard. Yeah Adriel's Adriel is trying to get
a hold of his his angel friend that he tried
to get out of the friend zone with and Yeah angels
texting. Yeah, you're right. It just seems weird.
That's not having to me. That's how spill it
out. Oh What is in this page? I wasn't zoomed
in enough but again Dogma, I swear. Ryan, what
are you doing? Ryan or Valentin, what are you
doing? Because they're at this burger joint,
okay? And the mascot is supposed to be some sort
of... Or not burger joints, they're at the pizza
joints. The mascot is supposed to be some sort
of Jesus Christ kind of person, but all I can
think of is friggin' George Carlin. It's the
Buddy Christ! I like how there's water on the
floor and he just walks on it. Yeah So So Adriel
because he doesn't He said he's sick at the age
of life, yeah, basically he gives up his wings,
yeah Yep, and then we end up in God's bedroom
Yeah, this was kind of awkward Yeah This is really
Really awkward And then we got cherubim and seraphim
I'm not gonna kiss him. Let me wake his holy
hiney up So basically they wake him up because
they've got a problem and I almost thought valentine
at the second page of of God's bedroom scene
here I Really almost thought he was gonna do
a Nike check with that black bar That'd be awesome
It's the second coming, oh no So we close out
the issue with two more pages in hell here Where
Teddy what's he doing? He's uh he is He's waking
up from the binger that they had Yeah, that's
right. He wakes up before Costello does. And
so he decides to go snooping around and he finds
something. Yeah. But we won't tell you what that
is. Yeah, no, we can't tell you what that is.
It's going to be a game changer for issue three.
Yeah. So yeah, he finds something. Costello wakes
up and he hides it from him. And Costello is
like, oh, but let's really, no, Teddy says, yeah,
it was fun. We should do it again tonight, but
let's really get black out. Let's really black
out this time. And that's how the issue ends.
Before we get into final thoughts, what I noticed
in this one, and I might've missed it on the
first issue. I don't think it was in there, but.
We have the what the hell daily up dog. Yeah,
I don't remember this in the first one. No, I
don't. So I assumed that this was going to be
a letters column for the comic, even though this
is only going to be a five issue series. I just
I wasn't sure what this is going to be. And then
the first thing that grabs my eye is massive
pizza rolls recall. This articles were pretty
funny. I got a bit there. Yeah. This is, this
was a good plus to this issue. Yeah, it really,
really was. Uh, and it is written like an actual
news report. Like all the articles are written
like it's an actual newsroom and it's just so
cool. Um, the other, the other, uh, announcements
on the other headlines on air, Satan announces
continuing rain in hell for more millenniums.
And then the other one was census reveals stats
increase in pro lifers 9 -eleven truthers and
fuckboys And then you have they've got advertisements
for Dave and Dave to They've got a couple of
things from the publishers desk kind of thing
and then that's that's pretty much it So hot
damn number two overall. What'd you think? Okay,
overall I really enjoyed the hell parts Yeah,
but they go to heaven I kind of confused about
what it's supposed to take away from it Yeah
God's bedroom was a little awkward The funny
thing is the first thing I thought when I saw
God in his bed was at first I thought that was
Teddy and Costello until I realized that the
mail didn't have the the the goat legs so i was
like okay so it's not our main characters that's
good yeah so so yeah that that was kind of i
just don't get where i'm supposed to and maybe
they'll be explained in in the next issues i
don't know what i'm supposed to be thinking of
heaven right now because to me they're annoying
teenager angels and i don't know i it's it's
very It's very 902 1 -0 ish right now. They have
the pizza place You know, it's a bunch of teenagers
and teenage drama and I'm us. I do like the part
where Gladriel Did I say it right? I Think so.
Yeah, where he walked away. I really liked that
that moment. That was a good moment The rest
of the heaven stuff. I'm kind of like I don't
know what to take away from this But yeah, but
the health stuff is amazing the stuff with his
wife and her in the confession because there's
other things that I revealed in that confession
that which we didn't talk about which yeah, yeah,
which is and I want to know more about her story
that made me Yeah, like said the only thing I'm
confused on is No, I am absolutely loving it
like like you said the hell parts are great the
heaven part was like I could like in the first
issue we got introduced to the heaven part of
the thing like through Costello and through his
connections to One of the angels up there and
when that in that comm center or whatever else
so that I can understand with this it's like
in trying to introduce something that I'm just
not sure where they're going yet. I'm just questioning.
I'm like, what am I supposed to be feeling here?
Absolutely. What would you give issue number
two out of zero to five? I would give it a three
and a half. Like I said, they have a part that
kind of confuses me, but everything else is really
good. I really liked it. Yeah, absolutely. I'm
right there with you three and a half. It's it's
the heaven scenes that just Three and a half
out of five from both of us is not a bad rating
at all But it just it wasn't as as epic as the
whole the comic on a whole wasn't as epic as
the first part liked and parts we didn't like
So Like I was saying a bit ago, about Ryan replying
to us on Twitter about issue number one's release.
You played Hal Bazaar, you sick bastards. Thanks
so much. And like I said, I'm actively looking
for references and stuff now in this series to
see what else he pulls in that I can pull out
and put in Ryan's awesome guy Yes, yes he is
Alright folks that's gonna do it for us here
on this episode of the pull bag like I said at
the beginning of the podcast Depending on release
We will have I know one thing that's happening
in May because it's already out well Steve and
I will be doing the first six issues of the 2015
Batman Beyond series by Dan Juergens and and
Bernard Chang so I know we're gonna be doing
that but the other May episodes may vary I know
you and I are gonna have our Kind of like blues
part two with issue three and four since that
series is about to wrap up Joe and I may get
to TMNT 56 to 58 which is the Leatherhead arc
other than that. I'm not entirely sure Yeah,
that's what's coming up on the pullback where
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