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Chicken Run Review

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said alcoholic, which is TV's Mr. Neal. Hi to
you. That's it? That's it. I didn't come up with
anything for this. Oh my god. Sorry. You are
so... You're so living down your reputation of
great comebacks after your introduction. It's
hard to come up with something every week. Right.
Yeah, without repeating yourself. And today we're
going to be going on a chicken run. Oh god, save
me now. Alright, so to set the stage for everybody
Chicken Run is a 2000 British stop -motion animation
film made by the Aardman Animations Studios directed
by Peter Lord and Nick Park. The film centers
around a band of chickens who seek smooth -talking
Rhode Island Red named Rocky as their only hope
to escape from their certain death when owners
of their farm decide to move from selling eggs
to selling chicken pies. Ow, my brain hurts.
Your brain hurts from that? Yes. Well this movie
was based on The Great Escape. I mean there are
scenes in this movie that are taken right out
of that. There was a scene early on where the
main character is like throwing a tennis ball
against the wall while she's in solitary confinement.
That's like right out of The Great Escape. Yeah.
Let's talk about the voice cast that I only know
one person from. I thought I knew two. I looked
up Miranda Richardson who voices Mrs. Tweedy
in this and it turns out she's a character in
the Harry Plopper movies. and a bunch of other
stuff. She's got a bunch of television and film
credits. She's got a bunch of theatrical credits,
but looking at this voice cast, what little voice
cast there is, the only person I recognize is
Riggs. I mean, where's... God, I can't believe
I'm about to say this, but where's the black
chicken? Where's Murata? Oh my God. I'm sorry,
listeners. I did not mean... Every time I see
Mel somewhere, especially around this time because
it was before, I think 2000 was before his whole
mental breakdown and all that other crap. I always
associate him with Lethal Weapon, with What Women
Want and all the other movies that he's done.
Bird on a Wire. Yeah, Bird on a Wire. And it's
like, he's the only person that I recognize out
of this voice cast. I don't know any of these
other people. And maybe it was because it was
a British movie that I find it really weird that
the British movie has to bring in the Australian
actor. That's a little strange. That is weird.
Yeah. Even weirder is that that was done to appeal
to the American audience. Sadly does not surprise
me at all. Oh Boy Where to start with this movie?
I did not see this when it first when it first
was released and into Believe this was the it
was that this was this not a theatrical released
in it. I don't know it was oh, yeah I so did
not see this in theaters. I Looked at this the
stop -motion animation stuff, and I was like
what the hell is this? Don't remember if I did
I know I was interested in it because it was
our time Yeah You're gonna have to give a history
lesson on them because I don't know and I mean
I know they did like Wallace and Gromit movies
and all that stuff, but When I saw the when I
eventually did get around to seeing the movie.
I originally I just didn't feel like I felt like
I wanted my money back, honestly. People sending
you hate mail right now? Well, they can send
hate mail to tfg1mike at gmail .com. I don't
care. I don't hate the movie. I just don't care
for it. It's not like me going off on, oh god,
what's a movie I'll be going off on? in later
episodes like Preview for episode 41. I'm probably
not gonna like shark tail That's just probably
gonna be a given but it's like but like this
I Just I don't like the animation style of it.
The stop -motion is too. It's just it's too weird
for me and it reminds me of and it might be because
and I don't know I have to look this up. It might
be because of Might be the same people that make
it but when I watch this back it reminded me
of Shawn the sheep Shawn the sheep. Yeah. Oh,
I think I know you're talking. Yeah, that's the
Third there's these shorts. I saw him on Disney
Channel. I forget who doesn't let me look it
up, but It's just one of those things where I
I'm like, okay British chickens want to flee
the nest right then That's a little strange I
just I mean I get why cuz well if we're gonna
start making chicken pies Then why wouldn't you
want to get the hell out of there? But still
it's like it's just yeah Yeah, Sean the sheep
British stop -motion children's television series
produce. Yeah, it's it's it's Arben animations
They produce it they produce a number of commercials,
of course, they didn't all listen grommet, which
they're both. Yeah uh... i do like from what
i've i've never actually seen the wallace and
gromit movies but what i've seen of like shorts
and stuff in advertisements i do like the wallace
and gromit stuff uh... i don't know what it is
about this movie that i just don't care for is
i don't know if it's just the start the way the
stop motion is with the chickens versus anything
else that arden does uh... when the show on the
sheep stuff came on on disney channel i was like
what the heck is this and I started watching
some of it and I found it pretty funny, pretty
decent, but this movie is just too strange. It
just goes to prove that British people are weird.
Again, hate mail, tfg1migateemail .com. The animation
style on this is just... The Ardman stuff that...
As I mentioned a second ago, the Armin stuff,
like with Shaun the Sheep and with the Wallace
and Gromit stuff, I don't mind it. Maybe it was
just the... the way the stop -motion played with
the chickens. I don't know. It just... This movie
just did not capture my attention of like, oh
my god, this is an animation masterpiece. You
know what I mean? It just... I think I understand.
Yeah, for a theatrical film, it does seem kind
of crudely animated just because it is stop -motion.
Stop -motion, by virtue of being stop -motion,
it doesn't really have any fluidity to it. It's
very perky jerky. And if anything moves really
fast, there's no motion blur. That's when it
becomes really obvious that you're watching stop
-motion. Although they did find clever ways around
that. What was she holding? It was like a...
some sort of bladed device she kinda spins the
blade and they actually got it to look like it
was like moving in real time while she's you
see her reflection in in the metal and that was
like really cool that was a really cool effect
and that's one of the few times in the movie
that you actually see something like that yeah
I mean stop motion in general not just with animation.
I mean, I mainly know stop -motion stuff with
people that have done stop -motion for toy reviews
and stuff like that. Stop -motion in general
can work. And, you know, the Wallace and Gromit
stuff is really popular, as far as I know, and
so is Shaun the Sheep. I know a lot of people's...
I know a lot of people that have kids that show
them Shaun the Sheep and they love it. So stop
-motion can be good. But in this case, for me,
I just... The overall plot here, just to get
this out of the way. The Tweety's are a middle
-aged couple who run their chicken farm somewhere
in Yorkshire, England. Mrs. Tweety, voiced by
Miranda Richardson, serves as the genius and
temper, while Mr. Tweety, voiced by Tony Highgarth,
is rather slow and insane, but handles his manual
work. and handles his manual work. The coop is
run in the style of World War II POW camp. With
the chickens accountable for the number of eggs
they lay daily, one chicken, Ginger, voiced by
Julia Swahala, has attempted numerous plans to
flee the coop, aided by contraband smuggled into
the coop by two rats, Nick and Fetcher, voiced
by Timothy Spall and Phil Daniels. respectively.
However, she is routinely captured by Mr. Tweedy
and his dogs and is thrown into the coal bin
for solitary confinement numerous times. And
then, as you said earlier, this is essentially
the great escape. This is a take off on on. Oh,
my God, we got to get out of here. Yeah, the
the Nazi military camp, which inaccurately portrays
the Americans as the one who escaped, whereas
they were actually they were actually moved to
another facility and it was the British, why
am I blanking on this word, the captives who
actually escaped. And of course it ends differently
because in The Great Escape I think they're all
captured at the end, recaptured, but in this
one they actually do get away. Yeah People are
gonna be writing me now. No the ending was much
different. I haven't seen the great escape in
a long time Yeah, yeah Let's see just to end
the plot here having enough mr. Tweedy pushes
the door on top of her before she can lash out
at him the film ends but the chickens find their
Idealic setting in a bird sanctuary where they
can live in comfort and raise their new chicks
rocky and ginger having fallen in love with each
other become a couple meanwhile nick and fetcher
discuss their plans of starting their own chicken
farm so they can have all the eggs they could
eat however nick and fetcher ends up arguing
with each other over whether the chicken or the
egg came first yeah i will never watch this movie
ever again I really liked mr. Tweety. Yeah, I
I think I think audiences love a slow thinker
and he was definitely slow thinker of the movie
He had some pretty Some pretty good good lines
in the movie were just highlighted how stupid
he was Just the I love the dull wit character
Mean I can love a dull witted character, but
there are only so many times you can fall down
a There are only so many times you can fall off
a cliff without learning your lesson Tanto say
don't go to town Roadrunner say stop chasing
me you never catch Yeah, I don't want to get
on a Roadrunner tangent that'll be oh my god
um so getting into the uh yeah the overall plot
was just okay it's a great escape and then the
ending of arguing over which god no just do not
like this plot at all As far as some production
first feature length production, which would
be executive produced by Jake Ebertz, Nick Park,
and Peter Lord, who run Aardman, co -directed
the film. While Margaret French and Jack Rosenthal
scripted the film, in December 1997 it was noted
that David Sproxton was to also produce. Dreamworks
secured their first animated feature with the
film, and they handled distribution in all territories
except Europe, which Pathé handled. The two studios
both co -financed the film. Dreamworks also retains
rights to international merchandising. Path and
Ardman had both been developing the film since
1996, whilst Dreamworks officially came aboard
in 99. DreamWorks beat out stories like Universal
Studios and Warner Brothers, largely one due
to the perseverance of DreamWorks co -chairman
Jeffrey Katzenberg, who is a company, were eager
to make their presence felt in the animation
market in an attempt to compete with Disney's
dominance of the field. Well, no shit, because
Katz, he got fired. Did he get fired or did he
quit? I forget. Oh, I don't remember. I forget.
He left Disney. And he, when he went to DreamWorks
and started it up with Spielberg and Geffen,
I think it's Geffen for the SKG. Yeah, I think
it is, yeah. When they started this, Katzenberg,
of course Katzenberg wanted to, you know... You
know bring down Disney's dominance in animation
because he was probably had sour grapes from
either getting fired or whatever else I don't
remember what the hell happened to him Putting
up with Michael what's his name? The head of
Disney at the time remember his name, but he
used to be like Okay, okay, here we go. I had
to look this up because I knew we were gonna
get comments I'm just gonna read last part of
this when Eisner's second -in -command Frank
Wells died in a helicopter crash in 1994 Eisner
refused to promote Katzenberg to the vacated
position of president This led to the falling
out between the two executives and Katzenberg
left the company in September 94 He launched
a lawsuit against Disney to recover money He
felt he was owed and settled out of court for
an estimated 250 million dollars So yes, he left
Disney. He did not get fired. He didn't get promoted
is what happened. Oh boy. Bitter much? Okay.
Harry Gregson Williams and John Powell, composers
in the artist pool of Media Ventures, were in
talks to compose the film since January 99 and
January 2000. The release was revealed to be
for the 23rd of June 2000. Reel .com, as far
as release and marketing, Reel .com received
an exclusive right hosting the official site
for the film and designing for which Canned Entertainment
were chosen. As far as the reception, here's
a couple of critical responses. Here we go. The
film has received critical acclaim, how, from
critics upon its release and currently garners
a 96 % certified fresh rating. I swear to God,
Rotten Tomatoes is so weird. Based on 140 reviews
with an average rating of 8 out of 10 Chicken
on is all the charm of Nick Park's Wallace and
Gromit something for everybody the voice acting
is fabulous the slapstick is brilliant and the
action sequences are Spectacular the film also
holds a score of a based on 34 reviews on Medicare
credit indicating universal acclaim. How is this
mo - oh my god, how is this movie universally
acclaimed? Hey, that's fine. Like I've said,
I like the Wallace and Gromit stuff, I like the
Shawn the Sheep stuff, I'm sorry. Stop motion
and chickens do not mix. For the box office the
opening weekend the film grossed 17 million five
hundred and six thousand dollars and change Worldwide
total of two hundred and twenty four million
eight hundred and thirty four thousand and change
So I guess that people like Mel Gibson as a chicken
I guess that's the I guess that's the draw here
You know I I thought he was like the least important
He does have a little bit of marquee value, but
he I Don't know. I didn't really care that he
was in the movie He's kind of there because I'm
used to him in action roles and I'm used to him
being like the macho guy and you know screaming
that is that his son is dead or give me back
my son or whatever that movie was and In this
movie, he's just not that. Oh, Rantz. I love
Rantz. In this movie, he's just not that. And
if he's not that, then his voice isn't special
enough to me that him being in this movie really
matters. This movie, to me, with Miranda Richardson
aside, outside of her and Mel, I don't recognize
any of these voice cast. That's not necessarily
a bad thing, though. Well, no, but I'm not saying
it's a bad thing, but for me, if one of those
chickens was voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson
or Tara Strong or somebody I would recognize,
I would be able to talk more about how I liked
the voice performances. I mean, they all sounded
like British chickens, and that's what they were.
But it's like every female British or whatever.
It just all sounded the same to me outside of
Mal. But Mal really is... He is a live -action
actor. That's what he is. I'm not saying the
man can't branch out and do other things, but...
I don't know if his voice lends itself to animated
characters. Mean unless they're gonna start doing
a animated lethal weapon cartoon. That would
be kind of cool. Oh my god, that would be insane
I absolutely love that Lord Alright, so IGN replacement
crew one to four one is don't watch this even
if it's free to worth a watch if it's free on
TV I don't know or think if it's on Netflix.
I'm not sure Or it's a must add to your DVD collection.
I'm gonna give it a two I'm going to be generous
because two is worth a watch if it's free on
TV. If you catch this on TV, check it out. The
plot is severely lacking in my opinion, but overall
it's something you can probably sit down and
watch with your kids if you have kids. What about
you? What do you give it? I'll give it a three.
I like the movie with today's DVD market being
what it is. I don't know if you'd want to get
it on DVD. Unless you just want to check out
the extras, but it's something you could look
up on Netflix. You could, you know, check it
out on Hulu. It's there, you know. It's worth
watching, I think. It was nominated and won a
ton of awards. It won Best Animated Feature,
Broadcast, Film Critics. I can't believe your
other half is not here for this. Get one best
animated feature at the Dallas Fort Worth Film
Critics. What's an old saying about Texas? Something
about steers and queers or something? I don't
know. Oh, wow. That's Mike at, uh, what's your
email address again? All right. Yeah, I'm not
going to give that out anymore. It won all these
awards at these different film critics cities
like Florida It was nominated for a Golden Globe
best motion picture musical or comedy And then
the rest of all the rest of all the wins is like
Kansas City film critics Las Vegas film critics
Los Angeles film critics National Board of Review
New York film critics Weird So apparently there
are There is a video game based on this which
there's a video game based on every film at this
point. Yeah It's a stealth based 3d platformer
based on the movie the game is loose parody of
the film The Great Escape which you had mentioned
earlier Apparently the game is set in World War
two or Maybe not maybe okay. They're saying that
The Great Escape was set in World War two Okay,
I was gonna say if the game is set in World War
two that would be you know Stop motion chickens
in World War two. That would be kind of cool
bang Grand Theft Auto means chicken run. Oh my
god Yeah, what was it like a PlayStation release
a station one It should it around that time.
That's what it probably was. Yes. It was a PlayStation
one release, which means skip it Yeah Yeah, movie
license games on the PlayStation, Super Nintendo,
Game Boy Advance, Game Boy Color. If you ever
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chicken run. I Thought it was a cute movie. It's
it's not wall -scrawled. It's certainly not the
wrong trousers, which is I think my favorite
cartoon by them, but It's it's okay You know
kids these days. It's hard to really gauge what
they like You might want to just you might end
up if you're an adult you you might actually
end up liking this movie more than your kids
do because kids are strange Yeah, and for me
it's probably not something I'm gonna go back
to but at the same time I don't outright hate
the film. I just I Just found when I was watching
it back. I'm like why am I watching this? That's
that's really my reaction like like nothing in
this film made me Just turn it off and say fuck
it. I'm never what I'm never finishing this ever
again You know and as Neil said it's at this
point. It's probably it's probably got more humor
in it for adults than it does kids So I guarantee
it Chicken boob run there you go. There's the
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