Voltron Legendary Defender Seasons 1-2 Review

From days of long ago, from uncharted regions

of the universe, comes a legend. The legend of

Voltron, defender of the universe. A mighty robot,

loved by good, feared by evil. As Voltron's legend

grew, peace settled across the galaxy. On planet

Earth, a galaxy alliance was formed. Together

with the good planets of the solar system, they

maintained peace throughout the universe. Until

a new horrible menace threatened the galaxy.

Voltron was needed once more. This is the story

of the super force of Space Explorers. specially

trained and sent by the Alliance to bring back

Voltron, Defender of the Universe. episode 70

of the show this is a brand new year 2017 I am

of course TF1 Mike and I believe making his debut

here on Tooncast Beyond is Joe Reed hello sir

hello how are you I am well it's good to be back

on Mike and wait that sounds dirty it's good

to be on microphone with you again So yeah, I

this is exciting thing on a new show. Yes and

so basically Everybody already knows this but

Joe doesn't so I'm just gonna give him a little

history lesson here 2009 when we started the

network Roughly around I think it was probably

the same day we started it We I launched what

is now called tune cast classic and we talked

about all kinds of various cartoons for a hundred

episodes of a podcast and we covered the gambit

of anything and everything. And I ended it in

2011 and started this show to continue it on

to talk about cartoons from the year 2000 to

whenever now is. So the original tune cast was

pretty much anything from our childhood, anything

before 1999, and now this one is anything from

2000 to, like I said, whenever now is. So...

In the process of doing this, originally it was

broken up into seasons. We get two seasons of

Tooncast Beyond. One was a superhero season,

the other was a DreamWorks spotlight. The DreamWorks

spotlight killed me. People go back to listen

to some of those DreamWorks episodes, oh my god,

some of those movies are just horrible. Flushed

away. A few other... ones I can think of uh...

so I needed to reformat it and the way I thought

I could do that was to do seasons and to do seasons

of shows and it didn't matter when the show was

or whatever we would go back and do whatever

but we would do it in a season format and we've

been doing that since about episode sixty or

so episode sixty one I think we still do the

animated movies and things like that we'll have

Inside Out and Home and Minions and Despicable

Me 1 and 2 and all that later this year So I

figured with this one we'd do it all in one go.

We're going to be talking about Voltron and Golion.

No, not really. The third or fourth incarnation

of Voltron. I forget which one. It's hard to

count. We know that Golion was the original Japanese

anime. That then became, here in the US, Voltron

in 1984. After that series ended, there was,

I think, Voltron... Vehicle Force, Wiltron, and

then there was... Which was actually a different

cartoon that they put... you know, they renamed

it, redid it, Voltron, and then they paid for

an episode where they animated the two separate

cartoons together so that they could have a movie

here in the U .S. with the two Voltrons together,

which I've never seen. Yeah, that was... was

it Legion of Doom? Oh, that's the Super Friends

thing. It was... yeah, I forget what the Voltron

movie is actually called, and I should be looking

it up, folks, I know, but it's... we're recording

this at like... 930 on a Sunday, so 930 in the

morning on a Sunday, but whatever So yeah after

that I think it was Voltron of the third dimension

and then there was Lion Force or Voltron Lion

Force which was a couple of years ago and now

through Dreamworks and Netflix we have Voltron

Legendary Defenders Finally a proper Voltron

So I grew up between between Transformers and

Voltron that's really what My very early childhood

was about four or five, six years old. That's

when these shows were coming on. Right. And,

you know, the giant robot thing, I guess that

was a thing. But then they could hook together

and that was neat. And so it's it's one of the

fondest parts of my childhood between Transformers

and Voltron. And then later, you know, and then

early 90s Ninja Turtles. That's like that's what

I grew up with right there. Yeah. And what has

always stayed with me. yeah absolutely people

would have heard as I said in the beginning of

the show before we came on because we're talking

about legendary defender I do have the legendary

defender theme in there but I could not do we

could not do a Voltron show and talk about this

franchise in this series without me putting the

original theme in from from What's his name?

John Peterson with the Peter Cullen voiceover

because That is just epic and I was wondering

if they were before when this when legendary

defender was first announced I was wondering

if they were going to get Peter Cullen back to

do a new voiceover and they didn't and I'm kind

of disappointed about it, but I'm kind of alright

with it now because the music for this series

is is is is its own thing and you don't really

need that voiceover on on the theme song in the

intro it would be great if we had it but um that

was yeah i think it with this series they're

they're really portioning out the origin story

and i think if they gave us that Voice over that

did the similar thing. We'd have we'd learn too

much that they would rather kind of spread out

over three or four seasons though though one

of my biggest gripes with the show I get I don't

want to I hate starting on a negative because

I absolutely love the show but We are missing

a soaring triumphant Voltron theme song and then

and there there are two things That I think really

defined Voltron. One of them is that theme song

which I think I don't know would hold up might

fit maybe not as the theme to the show but the

theme whenever Voltron starts kicking butt like

oh I miss it yeah and then something else that

we'll bring up later But but I think I think

this shows missing a theme song like that Yeah,

I mean it has a theme song it has some music

as I was watching through season one and season

two again before well actually season two just

actually came out two days before we recorded

this but I went back and I watched through some

of the season one episodes again just to kind

of see where the music fit and the music does

fit it's just not Like if a few years ago, this

is maybe well Actually, it was a lot of years

ago now, probably 2009 -2010. On the Voltron

website, they released a CD soundtrack for the

original 1984 cartoon series by John Peterson.

Oh, wow. And on that, they have multiple versions

of the theme. They have the theme without Peter

Cullen's narration, they have the theme with

Peter Cullen's narration, and then they have...

It's like 50 tracks of... all the music from

the original cartoon series back in the eighties

and that music is just a little bit more cool

than the music in legendary defender well it's

it's a lot of it is iconic in that kind of john

williams way and Think that I don't know whoever

the music director whoever that whoever the person

not the composer But whoever is directing that

composer is saying okay. We want your music to

become totally subtle We want it to absolutely

disappear into the background And it's really

kind of depressing and I remember the old series

whenever they do the establishing shot of Castle

Doom there'd be this this kind of weird chime

and then this droning noise and that was missing

from the first season. Season two I noticed every

time they'd go do the establishing shot of Zarkon's

ship there'd be some similar tone like that like

it kind of crept into season two. That was interesting

to notice and it had that same kind of ethereal

sinister evil kind of just noise but still not

what it needs to be to kind of really be something

that I will whistle walking up and down the street

you know yeah very very true the opening theme

for legendary defender is done by someone named

Alex Garengas I've never never heard of the guy

and the actual composer for the series is Brad

Break for Legendary Defender. Season one, going

back to it and watching it again. I didn't watch

all ten of the episodes for season one. I watched,

I don't know, three or four of them just to kind

of catch up my memory before starting season

two. Like obviously I went back and I watched

the last episode of season one just to... Really

an episode? Yes. In season one when you first

saw season one, what were your initial thoughts

after watching it? Well, I This has been the

whole series has been a really neat thing for

me because I grew up watching it at about six

years old and I when my son is four and five

and six. We were watching some of the old Voltron

shows You know look at them up on YouTube and

we'd watch one and it's big Combining robots

so he thinks it's the coolest thing and then

all of a sudden we find out that Voltron is coming

out the new a new Voltron by Netflix where we

watch all of our TV and So this has really been

the first kind of property that My son has seen

the original like I have and now gets to see

a reboot and then we get to complain about it

together And we get to be excited about I mean

excited first and then we get And so it's very

fond memories of watching it. I think Just like

when I look back at the anime when I was a little

guy watching it It was the best thing ever and

I loved the mice and I loved the nanny and I

loved Koran and I loved all the humor and I loved

the Characterizations when I go back and watch

it as an adult I go. Oh my god nanny is obnoxious

The princess is a helpless girl in pink who says

all those horrible things that men writers put

in her mouth And it's really dated and ugly and

so it didn't hold up. The things that are similar

to that in... The legendary Defenders show my

son thinks are great Lance and his over -the

-top humor. He just thinks it's the best and

Koran with all the Freak out stuff that he does

like that anime character in every anime that

annoys the tar out of me He thinks it's great.

So it's neat to watch him enjoy everything and

then I get to in my head gripe about those little

tiny things that bother me But what the season

what the what the series has done really? Well

is that it's pulled that magic meets technology

thing together. And I think they've even brought

in some, I don't know, what I think we conventionally

call the spirit. They call it quintessence, the

soul, and how those things come together to make

the magic of Voltron. It's why the Voltron robot

is special. It's because it's a combination of

all these three things. And so they're always

divvying out, you know, he's a little more powerful.

He's a little more powerful as the pilots gain

affinity for the lions. They grow a little more

powerful. I'm just kind of fascinated in that.

kind of I don't want to say storytelling but

when a writer has a story to tell kind of in

that area it's like oh yes tell me more tell

me more of this fake mythology and technology

that doesn't exist I like seeing into people's

imagination like that yeah when I watch season

one there's all kinds of nitpicks that I pull

out because of loving the original show in the

80s and I can still go back to the original show

and enjoy it for what it is yeah you're right

there are a bunch of nitpicks that in in legendary

defender they basically took the nanny character

and Koran character and made them one character

in legendary defender and I'm Koran bugs the

hell out of me in this series He's so annoying.

Oh gosh, so bad and it gets worse in the episode

Well, we're not there yet but in the season two

episode where he keeps they keep Stuck in the

time loop and he keeps de aging and I'm like,

oh god, it gets worse and worse and worse I didn't

hate that as much But as I watched through season

one, I really enjoyed the story, how they kind

of turn the story on its head just a little bit

to create their own thing. They're not really

retelling the original cartoon story. They're

telling it in a way that is going to bring people

in, like the fact that Pidge is actually a girl

in this series. That was interesting. I thought

that was a fantastic change. Yeah. Just super

stellar. Alright, no spoiler. Well, I don't know

if we're spoiling it. No spoilers here If you're

if you've even looked at the old show, you'll

kind of know what's going on I think and it hasn't

happened yet folks. So definitely not a spoiler,

but I think Shiro's gonna die Yeah, okay, so

anyone that's lived under a rock for the last

30 almost 40 years in the original Voltron in

the original Gold Lion Sven dies in the anime

In the 84 series, they didn't kill him, they

made it look like they killed him, but they sent

him off somewhere and he comes back later in

the Lion Force series from the 80s. Here, they

keep teasing it and teasing it and giving him

this slow -burning final destination kind of

thing. And I really hate... Comparing Voltron

to anything Final Destination because those movies

are horrible But but yeah, they keep teasing

the fact that Shiro made may or may not die which

is really gonna suck because That's Josh Keaton

As the voice of Shiro and I've interviewed that

guy and he is awesome. And yeah, Josh deserves

to be on that show. I thought when that was coming,

who's this Shiro guy with a scar across his face?

Like where's Sven? Why is he piloting the black

and Keith's in the red line? I know his outfit's

red, but anyway, you know, weird things like

that. I thought I was going to hate Shiro and

he ended up being one of my favorite characters.

He's the most mature and old and I appreciate

being able to actually relate to a character

not like Lance who's just an idiot. So I ended

up really liking him and I like watching him

go on the journey and I, after the last episode,

no spoilers here, I think I know what they're

going to do with him and that also makes sense

as to how eventually we might get to the Voltron

team that was the old show and a princess in

a lag and Keith's in the black lion without killing

him off. I think we can get there. Oh, absolutely.

I'm sure they could. Well, in the old show, in

the original 84 show, they had Keith, Sven, Hunk,

Pidge and Lance. And Sven was the black uniform

and the blue lion. And Keith was the red uniform

and the black lion. The colors were all mixed

up and everything. And people are like, why don't

they match? Why don't they this? Why don't they

that? Honestly, I don't even really care. Yeah,

I never bothered me. Well, I guess it upset me

aesthetically as a kid, but but not really I

wonder maybe if in the Japanese series they did

match because like once they're inside the line

It's not like you can tell well. No, they show

them Outside with their lion. So I guess that

does make sense and the color of their so yeah,

okay So it does it does really match but they

fixed that in That other Dreamworks Voltron where

they all had the right color uniform in the lion,

which is interesting But you know, whatever.

I like what they've done in matching the uniforms

like that, and it's gonna make sense now as to

why if they don't change uniforms but do change

lions, everybody's gonna end up where they were

in the old series. Right, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Stop the podcast and listen after you watch season

two, but season one left off with a pretty big

cliffhanger With them, you know, not really knowing,

you know us not really knowing if they're gonna

make it out of out of the battle there and then

You know, so we start season two and of course

we find out that they did make it and We you

know This is the wormhole trip because this is

the episode where first episode across the universe

is where Hagar uses her magic to whack out the

wormhole there, which is a little strange. And

what I find interesting is the first season has

11 episodes and then the second season has 13.

Wow, people like us, let's give them more episodes.

Yes, exactly, exactly. And I think season two

is a much better written part of the show. Season

one was written well, the story flowed well and

everything else, but the season two stories,

they all had an interconnected plan, I think

by the time episode four or five. when they finally

figured out, oh, hey, let's come up with this

plan to defeat Zarkon. This is then going to

give us an opportunity to see each of the Paladins.

And I'm sorry, I hate that word. I cannot. I'm

going to go find out what that means, because

that's a class in D &D. It's like a champion.

Yeah, it's basically the champion of Voltron,

thing like that. it just yeah it's champions

of the realm is basically it's you know but it

just sounds really weird just call them the Voltron

force or something I don't know but anyway so

by the time we get to that we each you know but

like I said episode four or five or six of season

two we get to see each of them on their own mission,

like Pidge is off somewhere doing something and

Hunk and Keith are collecting crystal whatever

the hells, you know, and we even, I don't know

if this is them trying to get back to a lost

culture, but episode seven, Space Mall, like

really we had to go to, I enjoyed it. Me too,

like I liked a lot of these episodes. even the

silly ones like that more. My least favorite

episode from season one is the one where they're

trying to train the five of them by putting them

into impossible situations, and it's not until

the food fight at the end where they come together.

I hate that episode. I will just skip it. Oliver

will try to put it on to watch it. I'm like,

no, no, son. Next episode, please. But that episode,

I think it was just, there were neat things happening.

It was about every mall trope you could come

up with put right next to each other and I don't

know, there was something special about it. I

mean, had a mall cop. I like that that Koran

went there and it was like 10 ,000 years ago.

This was a black market He had to be awesome

gripey and he goes and then there's the episode

where he does find the black market with what

they need to buy and They go through that bargaining

thing. I'll take a million of these. I'll give

you some pocket lint I'll give you 10 ,000 of

those and then they're just they're upping these

I mean man anybody who's bought or sold anything

at a flea market or I toy collecting thing. Anybody

who's bargained has done that before. So there's

just everything to relate to in that episode

that I think it was more fun than it deserved

to be as they go repair their portal generator.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I did really enjoy the

space mall episode. But I think the The three

best episodes from season two are the last three,

11, 12, and 13, because Voltron Legendary Defender,

folks, it is not paced poorly at all. It's paced

well, but sometimes in certain shows when I'm

watching them, if I get to a certain episode,

I'm like, okay, hurry up and get to the point

already. With this series I didn't have that

reaction because the episodes flow so well and

the story is told so well. Old school Voltron

has this monster of the weak feel and perhaps

the last seven minutes of the show it's like

canned animation form blazing sword boom and

they jump up in the air and they cut it in half

and then it explodes in the background with the

cool hero shot. They don't do that with this

series. at all. In one way it feels slower, because

they aren't forming Voltron and destroying a

monster every episode, but then it's always,

it's a connected plot through the whole series,

through the whole episode, what do they call

it? Series, you see I watch a lot of BBC. Through

the whole season, it's one connected storyline,

so in one way it feels slower. because they're

taking time to develop everything and build what

they need to defeat Zarkon. They're very good.

They're going after piece A, piece B, piece C,

but then it feels faster because they're not,

you know, three weeks don't go by between each

episode. Yeah, absolutely. Honestly think all

cartoons should be on Netflix Hulu or wherever

now instead of actual television because oh my

god That's one of the greatest thing about Netflix

when they do series like this or what whatever

any of the original series and that they do and

They just put everything up immediately. You

can watch it at your leisure like I I watch season

2 I think it was like obviously You know, like

I said, we're recording this two days after it

appeared on Netflix for me. I think I watched

it within a day and a half. Oliver and I banged

out the first 10, 11 episodes in the morning

and then the last two at night. We watched the

whole season in one thing. Some some of the series

I can't not not this specific series But some

of the Netflix series I can't do that with I

have to I want to be able to pace myself on certain

things But with this one I can I can see why

you would want to do it that way and it because

it's just such a good series There is something

to be said though about letting it take time

We're watching the new top gear, which I can't

remember the name of Amazon, the Grand Tour,

and that's a weekly episode. I kind of like that

because Thursdays become special. My wife and

I put our son to bed, let's go watch Grand Tour

and see the three dorks talk about cars. Yesterday,

well, what was it, Thursday? I don't remember

what day it came out now. Thursday, Friday, it

was special because Oliver came home from school

like, all right, boy, let's go, it's on, it's

on, full trans on, sweet man. So it gave us a

moment, but. That was great, but my wife and

I get a moment every Thursday when the new Grand

Tour episode goes onto Amazon. I wonder how special

it would be or how it would be different if every

week Netflix released an episode and my son and

I got to come home from school and said, all

right, dudes, let's go. And we got to experience

that 13 times instead of just one big time. Well,

you could do that yourself, doing it 13 times

without, you know what I mean? I have no restraint.

Just say you putting a whole bag of M &Ms in

front of me and telling me not to eat them all

in one shot Self -control I think not that's

why I have a hundred and five optimist primes.

This doesn't happen. You know, you can't stop

so getting into the voice cast here there are

only a few names that I really recognize Neil

Kaplan as Emperor Zarkon I recognize Neil he

used to be he was at one point in time a voice

of Optimus Prime which that series just no no

way which one Neil Kaplan he was The other one

before that Beast Wars no, no, no, that was scary

chalk as Optimus Prime. Oh, yeah It was car robots

Optimus Prime 2000 I've never even heard of that

series Yeah, it was transformers car robots here

hang on yeah me too thanks everybody oh yeah

he was the voice of optimus prime and transformers

car robots in the year 2000 and I could have

sworn he was a voice of optimus and one of the

other series before that but yeah it was the

car robots series But yeah So you literally see

you get Neil Kaplan is his Emperor's Archon you

got crease summer as which Hagar which yeah,

if anyone doesn't know crease summer Where have

you been, you know, uh -huh between drawn together

and and Tiny Tunes and she was max and Batman

Beyond and all that Kimberly Brooks is Princess

Allura Josh Keaton as I said is is Shiro Steven

Yoon is Keith Jeremy Shatta is Lance Bex Taylor

Klaus is Pidge slash Katie Holt Tyler Labine

is hunk Lance and hunk I kind of got to like

hunk when the space mall episode happened because

he shows off his chef skills But Lance is by

far the most annoying main character in this

series. Oh, I give that to Koran Okay, Lance

is the second most annoying character in this

main out of the main cast because They give him

all the anime like all the funny anime Facial

tics and it's like no don't do that. I understand

you're trying to go for a little bit of comedy

here, but Jesus Christ I do not need Lance being

this love -struck jealous idiot over Elora Because

there was a point where one of the episodes where

Keith and Elora go off together because they

think that's how Zarkon is tracking them and

they go off in this spaceship and At one point

they return and and Lance is like Wait, Keith

is with her with her and I'm like, no dude. Shut

up. It's like shut the hell up Lance Some of

the other comedy characters I could do without

a Lot of the care of comedy characters I can

do without but yeah Oliver likes it. So I like

okay I get why they put it in there because it

gets these little people that don't have Adult

sense of humor yet. Okay. All right fine, but

I wonder if I As the series goes on I don't know

how many seasons we're going to get the more

the better That we're going to see these characters

grow into the people that we remember I mean

if we kind of got to see Keith grow in season

two and and that moment where Near the end Rishiro

gets knocked out. He's like boom bam taste starts

taking command. We got to keep him away from

the black lion guys and So I think Lance may

be next he might be the one who comes and grows

Let's hope because Lance currently now. Oh my

god So, um, yeah, I would assume because it is

a Netflix show And it is DreamWorks. I assume

there's going to be a Season 3. I don't think

they're going to leave us... I don't know. I

mean, everything I'm seeing here does not say

that there's a definite announcement for a Season

3, but I would assume that there would be. The

the toys recently came out They've been fun.

They're some of playmates highest quality toys

I've seen which isn't saying much, but if you're

a toy person I recommend spending 20 40 60 80

90 120 dollars to get the Voltron That that that

fits together. That's that's pretty decent figure

I did not spend that much because I'm not dumb

and I watch sales and I buy things before street

date With Toys R Us has them miss marked because

they're not actually in their computer yet. I

do that kind of but you know, it's a great toy

It's actually pretty good. They're mine Oliver

knows that he's borrowing them from me when he

plays with them and that someday They'll go on

a shelf where we don't touch them. But you know

now I will always touch them. I'm not that person

There are also two different comic series for

the show as well. Yeah. Two comic series detailing

events happening in between seasons were announced

in January 2016, taking story ideas that were

determined to outlandish and too epic to be contained

in a 23 -minute episode from the animated series.

These comic series bridges the time lapse between

seasons. The first series, consisting of five

issues, is being published by Lion Forge Comics.

Hey, I know those guys. They send me a Christmas

card every year. or a little christmas postcard

thing uh... with the first issue being released

on july thirteenth of last year written by show

head writer tim hedrick with mitch iverson and

the illus it's illustrated by digital arts chefs

a special cover issue number one was a little

let's say to go comic con last year uh... that's

the series that oliver and i have i think you

don't have issue five yet According to this the

whole series will be collected in a graphic novel

and was initially scheduled for December of last

year But got pushed back to January of this year.

Actually, it's out now came out January 3rd and

then 24th of the actually, you know this coming

week Is is when it's gonna be coming in the second

series will be announced after the release of

the graphic novel so So they're still working

on that apparently sweet. Yeah Voltron force

or Voltron Voltron legendary defender. I like

it. I think it's really fun. I think it's really

really interesting It's bringing Voltron back

to where it should be It's like we already said

telling stories here That are well paced at a

well interesting time and then they're taking

their time But they're also giving us high -action

the action shots in this series the shots in

general for this series I've been posting a few

pictures on Facebook about just the background

Cuz I got in trouble talking about daredevil

season 2 before the entire world saw it when

it came out So so it's like I have to be really

careful now. It's like I'm not posting a spoiler

I'm just showing you people. This is a background

image, and it is gorgeous But yeah the backgrounds

everything about legendary defender is what I

hoped it would be it will like we said there's

a few things with the comedy characters that

we don't really like but i mean this is like

for me this is almost like i see for all over

again is a little is just a little bit different

and work where uh... we forgot to mention the

giant elephant in the room that some of the show

runners from avatar the last airbender are the

ones who are running this That's why it looks

so good. Yeah, that's why it looks so good And

that's what it has the visual sensibilities that

it does and and why I think they do the fight

scenes so well I think you know a lot of people

want to Michael Bay the thing and get in their

clothes and and they don't show anything But

you'll be watching a fight scene between two

characters, and you'll see like hey That's a

martial arts move. That's an actual Koshinage

hip throw that those two robots just did. Wow,

neato. So, you know, little things like that.

And I think that's where some of the visual styles

coming from. They take time to do those establishing

shots. And I think that's also the anime influence.

The good things that come from anime are those

neat establishing shots. Voltron's silhouetted

because of the sunrise with the streaks of sun

rays coming over the mountain. Like, man, that's

gorgeous. Thank you for showing us that. Yeah,

that is very awesome. Cell phone wallpaper. Bam.

That's right. That's right. So coming up on Tooncast

Beyond, we've got a lot of stuff coming up this

year. Over the next few episodes, it's going

to be superheroes. stuff from the 90s. Eduardo

and I are gonna come back and talk about Spider

-Man 94 season 2. We actually already did that

but something happened. That was during my problems

last year with recording equipment and that episode

could not be saved so we have to redo it yay

so we'll try to mimic everything and not you

know reference anything from the lost recording.

After that we're gonna be doing Spider -Man 94

season 3 and Need somebody for inside out Haven't

found anybody yet the person I did have well

that that's no longer an option so So yeah, that's

what's coming up here on to cast beyond when's

when's the next geek stuff garage sale? Probably

looking at June 2nd to 3rd week of June depends

on school all that good stuff although I'm gonna

have a new baby then so I don't know oh Yeah,

your other news. Yeah. Yeah, we haven't really

talked about that yet He's on the way will be

here may And and this is going to be fun because

now I yeah It's been great pulling Oliver through

those things that I enjoy and watching why he

likes the things that I liked as a kid And it's

a perfect time to be a geek father And I'm trying

not to force him to like the things that I like

and I'm trying to let him like things that he

finds on his own. That's a very deliberate thing.

Like he likes the dyno trucks and some of these

other Netflix shows that I don't really watch.

But I'll sit and I'll talk to him about it and

he talks to me about it. And I think that the

age difference is going to be such that instead

of... Me watching Star Wars with Oliver. It's

going to be Oliver watching Star Wars with his

little brother saying watch this kid watch watch

Who's his dad? Who's who's Luke's dad? And so

I get to kind of experience those things from

even a different angle and That's it's a it's

a just a good real interesting spacing between

ages and and it'll be fun to watch How old now

Oliver is going to be six next Friday? Yeah,

I know right and right about that's right about

when I remember conscious memory really starting

so Yeah, it's just gonna be it's gonna be some

good times Okay, and he's gonna be so there's

gonna be a six -year difference between them.

Yes, it's mad. Yeah, that's not bad Then it just

means I'll be changing diapers till I'm 50 or

something like that. I'm not ready. No, not exactly.

No Knock it off. Changing diapers till I'm 50.

40? Yeah, 40. Oh lord. Well yeah, 40. 40's not

that far away. Why do I still have toys? So you

can pass them on to your children. Yep, thereabouts.

Oh crap. Alright, you can find me at TFG and

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So I'll be doing that and who knows what else

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