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Friz Freleng Animation Direction Spotlight

About this Episode
Beyond good, beyond evil, beyond your wildest
imagination. And here we are, folks, at the famous
Polo Browns. It's been a one -sided, knock -down,
drag -em -out ball game right from the very first
inning. With the visiting team, the Birdie Gas
House Gorillas, giving the home team, the T -Totallers,
a shal - they'll never forget. Baseball fans,
oh! There goes the screaming liner into the field.
Home team hasn't a chance, but they're in there
punching nevertheless. I'm only 93 and a half
years old. I meant to say strike. Hello and welcome
to Tooncast Beyond's animation direction spotlight.
I am one of your hosts, TM John Mike, and joining
me is TV's Mr. Neil. I'm the roughest, toughest,
T -Man stuffest ombre that ever crossed the Rio
Grande, and I ain't no Namby Pamby. I can't believe
I got through that without stuttering. T -t -t
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Junior. So, this is the fourth overall, I think,
for Animation Direction. Yes, ladies and gentlemen,
I can't count. Yay. Yes, this is the fourth episode
out of twelve. And today, tonight, whenever you're
listening to this, we're going to be talking
about the man, the myth, the legend, the guy
who has a drink named after him, Mr. Frizz Freeling.
I always remember, I don't remember the short,
but I remember seeing his name on a drink sign
in one of the cartoons and then I saw the same
sign except it was upside down in one of them.
Yeah, Frizz Freeling, he, one of the founding
fathers of Looney Tunes, has had some of his
tunes are some of the funniest. Yeah, he's he's
kind of a chameleon almost whenever whenever
you think of like the great Looney Tunes cartoons
you always think of clamp it or Tex Avery or
or even Chuck Jones, but then there's this guy
and he did so much he First of all, he he he
didn't particularly like Elmer Fudd, but he did
create a bunch of great characters to use in
place of Elmer such as most importantly Yosemite
himself. Yeah Yosemite Sam He also He also created
the The Tasmanian Devil he only did one Tasmanian
Devil cartoon and then the rest when the rest
of them were all Robert McKimson But that's a
shame. Yeah That he only did one. Yeah, he did
the lion's share of the the the Tweety bird cartoons
So, yeah. Go ahead. There's not a lot... I know
this is gonna be sacrilege here, but... I've
seen so many Sylvester and Tweety cartoons over
the years. I think the only one that I still
absolutely love, and I don't even think it was
Frizz that did it, was Birds Anonymous. I don't
know what it is. They are great. They were great
when I was a kid, but... I don't know I just
don't see I know Sylvester and Tweety are classic
but like I prefer the ones where it's like Sylvester
and son and it's them going up against a kangaroo
which I think is a giant mouse and that kind
of like I that's the Sylvester cartoon that I
like I will take that back there is one Dr. Jekyll
and Tweety hide or whatever it is. Oh, yeah.
I love that one. But Frizz, he has, I mean, I
mean, these guys put out and these are we all
know these are shorts, but these guys put out
a lot. You know, people say I've put out a lot
of podcasts in the six years I've been podcasting
in the time that these guys had. as directors
and producers. Frizz has 332 directorial credits
and he has 355 producer credits. Just think about
that, 300 and something cartoons in 20, 30 year
span. That's amazing. That's an achievement in
and of itself. He and Chuck Jones really did
the lion's share of the cartoons after the war,
after Schlesinger left. And I think they had
recommended, there was a conspiracy theory that
they had recommended Robert McKimson being given
a directorial role, you know, to kind of have
someone that really couldn't compete with them.
But you know, McKimson did okay. Everybody rats
on Bob McKimson. He has done some of my favorite
Bugs Bunny cartoons. Well, we'll get to that.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, no, I know, I know,
but I'm saying like, I remember when you and
I first started coming up with this whole spotlight,
you're like, I don't know how long I can talk
about McKimson. Well, there is the farmhouse,
the farmland characters. Those are okay. Yeah
But you know frizz, you know the harebrained
hypnotist the sheepish wolf What what are the
ones is he most famous for Rookie review notes
to you There's so many different ones that he
has done I Think one of my absolute favorites
though is um uh is it uh it's uh where is it
oh god so many oh here we go um hairdo i love
hairdo hairdo is awesome because he's hunting
he's um oh he's hunting elmer is hunting for
wow probably the only one that one of the only
ones that frizz directed that has elmer in it
hunts for bugs with a army surplus wabbit detector
i love that one is that one of the ones with
fat elmer because i know he did two fat elmer
cartoons um no i think that's regular elmer okay
i think i wish itunes give me the dates on these
other than when they actually released but um
You know, it's just it's just one of those things
where he is such an interesting gray, especially
the the Bugs Bunny Yosemite stuff Yeah, I think
the one that that I I always that always comes
to mind for me is nighty night bugs. Yep Where
the drawbridge keeps falling on him? I Demand
you open this door right now you honorary critter
I absolutely love that. I think... You're a stupid
dragon. Yeah, you stupid, idgit dragon. I'm trying
to see here if... yeah. Let's see. Or the one
where he's a pirate and Bugs keeps throwing the
match down in the gunpowder room. I ain't going
to get it again. But I have to say, I would be
remiss without mentioning this one, because it
is one of my number one favorite all -time Bugs
Bunny cartoons. Baseball Bugs. Oh, yes. Baseball
Bugs was amazing. Every joke in that in that
cartoon is amazing you know the there's a screamer
going into left field and the ball starts screaming
uh one of the outfielders going back i got it
i got it i got it grave pops up he got it i love
baseball bugs he also did showbiz bugs which
is interesting i think that's one of the ones
where lolly interviews bugs um I forget what
her... It was one of the Foray characters, because
we all know that it wasn't just Mel. Oh, yeah.
Even though Mel... He had an exclusive contract
where he only got... Right. I mean, Mel Blank
would have been a super genius if he could sound
like June Foray. You know? I mean, this is just
absolutely hilarious. What other ones from Frizz
do you really enjoy? Unfortunately, I don't know
as many of them by name as I do with the other
directors. You know, I really do like the Tweety
and Sylvester cartoons. They're a little too
close to Tom and Jerry, but they're still funny.
Well, there's a difference. Sylvester and Tweety
talk. Yeah, that's true. Let's let's say okay
sure later when Chuck went to and we're not talking
about Chuck this time around but when he did
get later go to Created his own studio and did
his own version of Tom and Jerry those were more
Looney tunes. I mean there was several times
where Jerry made the time Jerry each made noises
that I think were both also provided by Mel But
yeah, Chuck is the last one in this thing. I'm
looking at my iTunes thing here, and I don't
know what it is with seasons one and two of Bugs
Bunny on iTunes, but they're all... Almost all
of them except Baseball Bugs and Chill Biz Bugs
are Chuck. But Friz, you know, he did some amazing
work. He went to MGM in 1937. You know, he was
going to direct for MGM's cartoon studio, headed
by Fred Quimby. He found he would be working
on the Captain and the Kids adapted from the
popular comic strip, the Katzenjammer. kids.
The series failed to achieve much success, much
as Freeling had predicted. Though skillfully
animated, the characters could not compete in
the funny animals and the prevailed in the time.
And then he went back to Schlesinger. Is this
where you ought? Yep. You ought to be in pictures.
Right. Anybody who's anybody who grew up on Looney
Tunes or ever saw a Bugs Bunny or porky pig or
daffy dot cartoon you ought to watch this one
because oh my god this is hilarious i love you
ought to be in pictures one of the very rare
times that there was live action in the looney
tunes universe right and it was quite a feat
to do that back then i mean this was way before
uh roger rabbit oh yeah absolutely um Wait a
second I thought Mike Maltese wrote this one.
Um It says Jack Miller, I don't know could be
a wiki flub, but but You ought to be in pictures
actually Actually has Mike Maltese in it, right?
He was the the security guard, right? Security
guard. Yep, but it's not his voice. That's Mel
of course Oh, man. So, Frizz, as you said, kind
of started the whole thing with Bugs and Yosemite
Sam. I don't understand Sam's obsession with
hating rabbits. I mean, I know it's just in human
nature to hate rabbits, but I don't get why he
hates him. Think it's just because Sam is an
outlaw and bugs just routinely made a fool of
him Yeah, that could be it because every cartoon
he's in he just kind of like walks into a bar
or something and there's bugs and then bugs just
Proceeds to humiliate him from the beginning
Yeah Oh Wow, he did Homeless Homer 1929 Wow That's
that's interesting. Yeah So here he also worked
at Disney for a very brief time yeah, because
he's credited with a He's unc well, he's also
uncredited with a Bosco cartoon. Yeah, I wouldn't
want my name on that either Pigs is Pigs, 1937.
The fellow with the fiddle. You know, I mean,
he's done so many cool things. I still gotta
go back to baseball bugs though. That's probably
my favorite Freeling tune. And you're right,
he did obviously most of the... the war stuff
and which is fine you know you've got um big
house bunny uh let's see a stooge for a mouse
uh canary row bunker hill bunny i think i remember
bunker hill bunny is that the one where bugs
joins the the military i think so uh fight it
out in the little known american revolutionary
war battle of Battle of Bagel Heights What always
kind of confused me was because I had always
heard his name as Frizz Freeling when I start
seeing the cartoons showed as director I Freeling
Because that's his yeah Isidore's his real name
Yeah, that's Schlesinger again requiring that
he uses his real name Yep 14 carat rabbit love
that one. That's the one where he and Yeah, that's
the one where he and Sam go gold hunting and
because Bugs goes crazy every time he's near
gold and once Sam finds out about this and he
tries to exploit it and Bugs leads him into the
worst trap you could ever be in if you're a gold
hunter You never want to dig at Fort Knox. Oh,
yeah. Man, that's so hilarious. You know, Frizz
didn't just do, you know, like I said, he was
at MGM, but he didn't just do Bugs Bunny and
Looney Tunes stuff. He also did a lot of the
Pink Panther stuff later. Yeah, he and the Patty
opened up their own studio. Mm -hmm Yep and You
know, I love a lot of the old pink panther stuff.
I really do What oh I was no I was just reading
the the article here. Um Yeah, I was just thinking
that we have a separate spotlight for David H
to Patty but I give a Feeling that like we're
gonna say everything that needs to be said about
him right here because yeah pretty much because
these two basically worked in tandem until Marvel
bought the studio and then proceeded to create
Transformers and GI Joe Wait Marvel bought the
Patty studios. Yep. Yep, that's they turned it
into Sunbow They didn't turn it into Sunbow Sunbow
is always a separate entity, but okay It became
it became Marvel Productions and to Patty stayed
on for a little while and while freeze -frieling
retired so Yeah, so that's why some of the later
Pink Panther cartoons are actually credited as
being done by Marvel Studios and if you look
in the credits some of them even have Nelson
Shin as an animator So yeah So there's a there's
a direct link from the looney tunes right to
The 80s our childhood Well, you know sludge did
have that moment. Mm -hmm I bet Nelson Shin boarded
that segment when Devastator crushes sludge and
he has the Looney Tunes I pop out moment Probably
not. I think that was I think no that the yeah,
that's just been like Some some animator having
fun. Yeah He's got, um... You know, Schlesinger
had a hands -off attitude towards his animators,
which allowed Freeling and his fellow directors
almost complete creative control and room to
experiment with cartoon -comedy styles, which
allowed the studio to keep pace with the Disney
studio's technical superiority. Freeling's style
quickly matured, and he became a master of comic
timing, often working alongside layout artist
Howley Pratt. He also introduced or redesigned
a number of famous Warner Brothers characters,
including Yosemite Sam, Sylvester and Tweety,
as we've already said, and Speedy Gonzales! There's
a character that I don't see a lot of cartoons
for on Boomerang right now. Yeah, because he's
kind of politically incorrect. Kind of the same
thing with the Frito Bandito. So I think Freeling
also designed... if I'm not mistaken. Frito Bandito
was the spokesperson or the spokesperson for
the Frito chips and after a while some parents
groups got kind of upset and even though I think
both Frito Bandito and Speedy Gonzalez were kind
of popular in the Hispanic community and Speedy
Gonzalez is still popular. He is, he is. Always
love those speedy cartoons. And then they had
to introduce Slowpoke. That was hilarious. Slowpoke
Rodriguez. He has a gun. Now, Freeling in his
later career before he passed away... He was
the executive producer on three 80s Looney Tunes
compilation features, which linked together several
of the classic shorts with new animated sequences.
The ones he produced were the Looney Looney Bugs
Bunny movie, or Looney Looney Looney Bugs Bunny
movie in 81, Bugs Bunny 3rd movie, 1001 Rabbit
Tales in 82, and Daffy Duck's Fantastic Island.
now these used to drive me nuts not because i
didn't enjoy watching them but because i i instantly
knew that they were like made up of like pre
-existing cartoons and everyone else i knew like
didn't see that for some reason i was like i'm
like that's an old cartoon and they're like what
i some of the some of the kids i knew when i
was young are really stupid or didn't watch cartoons
apparently It's like I was already like studying
cartoons and like I guess no one really I Hate
to say this, but I guess like kids were really
weren't watching them or something I Don't know
What's so interesting to me is to see How they
did the cutarounds because I've seen Transylvania
six five thousand outside of A Thousand and One...
Not A Thousand and One Rabbit Tales. Quackbusters.
I've seen it outside of Quackbusters. It's interesting
to see what the original cartoon was compared
to what they put in the movies. I... I always...
I could never tell the new animation, like, what
they put in. I could, just because the color
composition would be off. And the voices were,
I mean, because you have an older Mel Blanc.
And especially like characters like Bugs and
Daffy were in the old cartoons, they would speed
them up. And in the compilation movies, they
wouldn't. So Daffy's voice would be noticeably
lower than it would be in the old cartoons. So
that was another thing. I'm just like, what the
hell is going on here? Why are the voices so
different? I mean, I know he's older, but that
shouldn't matter that much. Yeah, it was that
they were they were speeding them up in the old
cartoons Hmm interesting, I wonder how that went
though like what was the process for that like
did they just use Did they just fast -forward
the tape or Well, yeah, it was just they would
just play the the tape back at a different speed.
I mean that was pretty common They did that with
a lot of characters just to hide the voices.
If you only have five guys on the staff, there
are a lot of different things you could do to
mask the voice. In Warner Brothers' case, we
only have one guy, plus maybe on an off day,
you might have been co -starring with Dawes Butler
or I don't know who else, June Ferre. Right,
yeah. I think the thing that I hear most said
about Fritz Freling is how he always had that
very short temper, hence why Yosemite Sam came
to light. I mean, that's always, I've always
heard that. I mean... Which I don't understand
why the guy had such a short temper I mean if
he was left to do whatever he wanted to do it
You know at Looney Tunes and Leon didn't bother
him or his animators They should have gotten
along perfectly. I don't know maybe his attention
to detail or something. Maybe that that's what
it was but At least he had enough a sense of
humor about himself that he would parody himself
Yeah So awesome What else you want to say about
frizz? Well, we only briefly mentioned the pink
panther cartoons the pink panther was was actually
just going it was just going to be a movie done
by what was it it was a MGM I think and They
were going to hire the animation team to do an
intro cartoon and they did I think they did the
intro cartoon on every Single movie except for
the two remakes Obviously because you know both
guys are dead now Yeah, they came up with the
Pink Panther character, and then they co -owned
the character with the movie studio. And then
they added a bunch of their own cartoon characters
to kind of flesh it out, like the Inspector,
which was kind of loosely based on the Inspector
Clouseau character. There were other cartoons
that were, I guess, produced apart from Pink
Panther, but you always see them kind of... kind
of linked in yeah lumped in like the Ant in the
Yard Vark and uh I love the Ant in the Yard Vark
Hoot Clute and uh Roland and Rat Fink mm -hmm
yeah I absolutely love the Ant in the Yard Vark
though those are some of the funniest ones um
and then you've got the Pink Panther cartoons
that it's Well, most of the pink panther cartoons
it's him versus some Old white care cartoon character.
Yeah, and not like white as an ethic. I mean
like actually No, he is white color is white.
Yeah, I think the one I remember the most off
the top of my head is the one where they're doing
the guy is trying to plant flowers and he's planting
yellow flowers and pink panther sees this and
Goes behind him and plants pink ones and he keeps
getting frustrated more frustrated as it goes
along So, yeah You know frizz and the pink panther,
you know, I think they started some sort of new
pink panther thing now Like I know there's the
two remakes with Steve Martin for the for the
live -action films, but Something like pink panther
and his pals or something or other. I don't know
if that's just an old repackaging or I know that
they did a couple of revivals in recent years
and It's kind of like it's kind of like the screwball
squirrel revival or it's like you really don't
watch it Then there's a pink panther and Sun
which is a mid 80s revival of sorts and it was
from what I remember it was okay, but it was
like It was basically like it was almost Muppet
Babies ish if I don't know if you kind of get
what I'm going No, I know you're going because
like all the characters are talk and it's just
the Pink Panther You would kind of come in like
for like a cameo for you know, whatever it wasn't
really a Pink Panther cartoon per se it was like
something completely different, but it was animated
all right for the 80s You know the one I'm talking
about Lasted from March 7th to August 23rd 2010
and is currently airing on boomerang He's had
the voices of Kel Mitchell. Oh my god Kenan and
Kel um Eddie Garvar and Alex newson bomb Trying
to see executive producer David Corbett Basically
seven seven minute segments 21 minute episodes
It was done by Rubicon studios and MGM television.
Mm -hmm So it was about four years ago And the
funny thing is I'm just noticing this now because
they're showing it on Boomerang Cartoon Networks
retro show channel whatever and I thought it
was something like new like to this year It's
not apparently But no frizz he led an amazing
life he had an amazing career He's one of the
most loved Out of the Looney Tunes directors.
Oh, yeah, I do know that what is it? two or three
shorts, Jones dedicated to Frizz's memory. I
read that somewhere recently where Frizz, Chuck
Jones had dedicated a couple of shorts to him.
But yeah, I mean, Frizz Freling was one honoree
son bitch, and he was awesome. And unlike Bob
Clampett, he stayed, he stayed working pretty
much up until, uh, up until he retired. Yep.
Pretty much. He was, he was never really out
of the spotlight. You know, well, kind of because,
you know, in the, like I said on, on another
episode, you know, during the eighties, um, their
names are kind of not really well known. Like
people, people like would, I don't know. It was
something weird. Weird thing about the eighties
is that like the whole dedication to the directors,
it's just kind of like de -emphasized. You never
really heard about who Chuck Jones was during
that era. The only names you really knew were
Hanna -Barbera because they put their names on
the studio. Yeah. I mean, and honestly, we'll
get into them, but it's one of those things where
half of the Hanna -Barbera, Tom and Jerry cartoons,
it says at the very end of it, produced by Fred
Quimby. So I always thought as a kid I always
thought oh well that's the guy that's in charge
is That's the last thing you see on a credit
roll is the you know the last person you know
director Whatever, but he was always credited
as producer because obviously Hannah and Barbara
directed the stuff If you guys want to, so since
Neil brought up the fact that we do have a separate
episode planned for Dupati, but since we've pretty
much talked about him this episode. If you guys
want to hear me curse for 30 minutes, I guess
we could throw in Deutsch. Or do we have, do
we have one for Walter Lance? Cause we might've.
No, no, we can put him in the hands. Okay. That's
fine with me. He's got an interesting career.
That's fine with me. That'll work. All right,
what do you got going on over at the superhero
sexy pants comic? That is still on hiatus, but
I'm very close to getting new pages done I had
a computer meltdown a couple of weeks ago, and
I'm I had a couple commissions I needed to do
and that's been taking up my time so yeah, that's
gonna be coming back very shortly plus I have
a I have a holiday special coming up for the
end of the year and thankfully I'm not doing
all the pages for that. So I've been giving a
very nice reprieve from having to do all the
pages. That's cool, that's cool. What do you
guys got coming up over at AA? Well, we keep
doing episodes and we keep skipping the Sailor
Moon app, which we have done. It's just that
something else will come up and we... We put
that out. So I think the Sailor Moon episode
is gonna be coming out fairly shortly based on
the new series not the original because I think
yeah, we already did an original sailor episode
Yeah, so yeah, we spoiler alert. We weren't very
impressed with the new sailor Alright so next
week next time we come around We're going to
be talking about the man, the myth, the Foghorn
Leghorn with Mr. Bob McKimson. Oh, yeah. That
dog, I keep throwing him. You keep missing him.
Are you listening to me, dog? I found a YouTube
clip that was like the best of Foghorn Leghorn.
I'm like, perfect. I can pull all the audio right
off of that. Awesome. All right. We will catch
you next time institutions to leave the theater
for this performance likes thank you some appropriate
music maestro thank you first i drink a generous
portion of gasoline then some nitroglycerine
a goodly amount of gunpowder some uranium two
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