Thrill of the Hunt, Nanosec, Along Came a Spider Review

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episode of Transformation Animation Podcast features

Stephen C. Phillips, Mike Blanchard, and Michael

Wilson. Hello and welcome to Episode 3 of Transformation

Animation Podcast. I am one of your hosts, Steve

Jim and Mike, and joining me is Steve Megatron.

Hello. Good day, sir. And Pecan Court Michael.

Hey, how's it going? Not a very enthusiastic

greeting, but yeah. We just came off of recording

a one hour 48 minute long Dark of the Moon discussion

where the three of us joined with Optimus Solo,

the Cybertronian correspondent, talked about

Dark of the Moon in depth, our thoughts and all

that stuff. So yeah, that's what we've been up

to. So let's get into some episodes. So first

up today is the thrill of the hunt. Ratchet thinks

back to the time when he served in the Cybertronian

War as a field medic. During the fighting, he

was sent to rescue an intelligence agent named

R .C. who was injured during the fighting. The

intelligence code she possesses could turn the

war in the Decepticons favor. For that reason,

Megatron sends the bounty hunter for hire Lockdown

to capture her, snagging Ratchet in the process.

Back in the present, Lockdown has resurfaced

and uses Ratchet's EMP generator to capture Optimus

Prime. Recruited by Blitzwing and Lugnut to locate

the Autobots who destroyed Megatron, Lockdown

is revealed to be just a bounty hunter who doesn't

care about the Decepticons' cause and just does

it for the upgrades that he can get. Ratchet

eventually defeats him, reclaims his EMP generator,

and saves Prime and opens up about his experiences

to his leader. Well, Kevin should be happy. This

one focused pretty much all on the robots. I

mean, there's virtually no humans in this episode.

So true. That was a good episode. I enjoyed it.

When I first saw the car, I was like, oh, mysterious

car. And I liked in the flashback that we see

an animated version of a war -torn Cybertron.

I really enjoyed that. RC, yay, thank God they

didn't make her a tool for the Rodimus Springer

War. That's all I'm gonna say on that. That's

all you're gonna say. Leave it alone. Yep. Lockdown

is a badass. He has no choice to be a badass

because Lance Henriksen is the voice. Yes, that

is so awesome. He is awesome. He has the best

voice. He talks... more quickly than voice actors

usually talk, but you can kind of give him a

pass because he's just so awesome. Yeah. I didn't

write the second part of this next note down,

but I realized it as I was watching the episode

afterwards. When they are fighting Lockdown and

his ship and all that stuff... Auto guns with

Cheetor sound! Was it Cheetor sound? It was the

Cheetor Guns. I swear to God, I'll have to go

back and watch it, but I swear to God it was

the Cheetor Gun sound. I wasn't specifically

listening for it. I was so psyched that Prowl

had jumped up, cut one down, and used it to shoot

all the other guns. I thought that was... I cheered.

I was like, yeah! Yeah, that was pretty badass.

It was. Codes crucial to the war effort hmm interesting

and that's all I'm gonna say on that because

we know what happens but Kevin doesn't so that's

one of the things I didn't mention you guys off

air I specifically I have to try to avoid the

spoilers because Kevin will get pissed and he

won't listen to the podcast until we finish and

my final note is it just me or did I hear a bit

of G1 -esque music at the very end of this one

Kind of like a g1 outro tight like the the first

the the main generation one theme I could have

sworn I heard like it like it two notes of the

outro I I didn't hear that I did like the soundtrack

for the episode Yeah, they had a really nice

rock riff that started when bumblebee started

chasing lockdown Yeah, it sounded pretty cool.

I mean it it was it's not Batman Beyond But it's

still pretty cool for a cartoon soundtrack. Yeah.

Oh, wow, I just noticed none of my notes... Bumblebee

must be getting better for me because none of

my notes include Bumblebee as being a dick again.

Well, he did take center stage in this one. That's

true, too. I was gonna say, of course, this is

a ratchet -centric episode, so... And there was

no Sari, so normally you've got Bumblebee and

Sari doing their own thing. That's true. I don't

leave you to wonder where they were and what

were they doing? Dude she's she's like eight

Wait until like season three before the bow check

a while Wow Oh No bumblebee was in this because

in the beginning he said what crawled up your

tailpipe Yeah, he what but what I'm saying is

as you said, it's not a bumblebee centric episode

So it you know his dick richness didn't really

overpower it Yeah, yeah But I did like the ratchet

flashback And that they call them field tech

ratchet and he had both of his uh his horns Yeah,

that was kind of cool Like that I like that his

voice was was toned down. It was much less gruff

and old sounding Yeah, it's it's you know a testament

to the voice actor that he's able to go from

to more of a normal sounding voice I can't do

it. I don't do voices I hope Yammo is not anywhere

near you because you sound like a dog when you

do that. Oh, he's sleeping over here. He won't

go without five feet away from me, but he's still

asleep. Cory Burton has a very, very wide range.

I mean just look at Ratchet compared to Megatron.

Very wide range Cory Burton has. Right, right.

I don't want to say that there was a love interest

here. But there was definitely something between

Ratchet and RC. Oh, yeah, you could see that.

Yeah. Well, I mean, it may have just been, you

know, way back when, when Ratchet had a good

bedside manner. You know, he was more friendly.

But this looked like it was a little more than

just friendly. It looked like he was hitting

on her. Which, you know, you really shouldn't

do to your patients. You know, despite how cute

they are. Well, she's pink she had you know,

it's inferred No, there was more of an emotional

attachment here rather than I Want us, you know,

I want to suck your robot juices out Well, we

gotta have some sort of crude humor it's not

as dark as It's not as dark as Barney in Megatron,

but there's a lot of cute scenes here like Ratchet,

you know, when he first finds her, she's like,

I can't feel my leg. It's because her leg is

gone. As dark as this could be, right, as they

could have made it, he actually touches their

leg and it's like, and he says, Oh, well, you're

in shock. because he got shocked. It's like stating

the obvious here. I know, I thought that was

funny. I'm like, oh, because he shocked her,

that's funny. But another Bumblebee quote where

he tells Ratchet that he freesed up like a crankcase

in December. There's a lot of car -related humor

here. Oh yeah, we'll get to the car -related

humor. Later as well because I found a car joke

with bulkhead Later in in the podcast recording

here. Yeah Lockdown Divides and conquers. Yeah,

basically, you know, and it seems like every

Decepticon so far has no problem whatsoever,

you know taking apart everyone and He's doing

it one at a time. He's doing it smart rather

Where he's separating everybody out getting them

one at a time You know up until prowl comes along

because prowl is the only one they can really

best him in combat Yep, that's because prowl

has patience and everybody else is kind of like

run at him Chase him chase him and then die.

Yeah, they get the snap beat out of you because

he's a better fighter than you are lockdown is

more like a like a seasoned Kind of a cross between

a wrestler and Boba Fett I Kind of thought I

thought of him as a robot predator That's more

accurate. He's very with that tattooed face.

Yeah Yeah, well that he takes he takes prisoners

or not prisoners trophies. Yep He takes prisoners

too if necessary, but no more to the point. He

takes trophies He's actually gonna you know polish

your skull and put it on his mantle He'll take

your good parts and fix himself. Exactly. He's

like Hannibal. You talk about my robot juices

being horrible for this. That's bad for this

show right there. He's not eating anybody. But

it's like Buffalo Bill. They skin people and

they put their parts on them. Ew, no. It puts

the lotion in the basket. Sorry, sorry, I was

almost thinking he's like rampage, but Anyway,

so at the end ratchet ratchet You know, he's

basically traumatized for life by this guy and

then years later runs into lockdown again and

completely freezes up Like a crankcase in December

But in the end he comes back and he's able to

defeat him, you know, mostly due to the fact

that lockdown is relying heavily on that EMP

generator and Ratchet is immune to it, but he

comes back at the end and saves the day and he

manages to rescue optimus prime And you know

in the end what he does serves to redeem himself

for what he did to RC during the war You know

you at the end well, they explained by the end

of the story that he stripped her memory completely

In order to keep those secret code the you know

I won't spoil it for Kevin, but he keep the secret

codes away from the Decepticons Yeah, he has

to live with that You know it's hard on him and

that partially You know, that's why he's a gruff

angry old man is because he's got these demons

from his past but he serves to redeem himself

at least a little bit when he helps to defeat

Lockdown. What do you think Steve? I like the

character of Lockdown just all around besides

kind of his creepy like hunter feeling that he's

got uh he's just a badass. Mean anybody that

goes through and picks off his his prey one by

one and Just you know, it's not even fazed by

it It gotta be badass. I mean he's just he just

keeps going He keeps going and going and going

it's like the energizer transformer, I mean he

just never dies Yep, and then he ties you down

to the table and cuts your arms off Well, if

that's what he wants. He's got to figure out

which part on you is unique, so he's got to take

it with him. He wants your very special arm.

Yes, he wants your third arm and your EMP generator,

so he's going to be shockingly great. Yes, that

was a little too far. I like how Ratchet kicks

his ass by the end. It just, it just shows that

even Ratchet, as old as he is, can still be a

badass. He's got a few tricks up his sleeve there.

He's like, I'm getting too old for this shit.

And he's just like, I'm not taking it anymore!

Get off my lawn! I'm mad as hell and I'm not

gonna take it anymore! Give me back my lawn mower.

Well, I mean, when he can physically pick you

- Well, I don't say physically, but he uses his

electric - of the electromagnetic posts or whatever

he's got, but he uses them to pick up lockdown

and throw him into a wall several times, and

then put a car on top of him forcibly. And then

he's like, in a slow moment of the episode, he's

like, think, Ratchet, think. It's a ship, not

a door. It has an airlock. So at least you have

these Transformers guys, at least you have these

Autobots using their brains. Yeah. Yeah, they've

done this several times here in the series so

far and it's still early on yet But they think

they're thinking to win as opposed to just using

overpowering force like the unicorn trilogy Yeah,

well, I mean they could have just as easily you

know thrown bulkhead at the door Combine Autobots

combine Bulkhead pants Optimal Tron! Do we have

anything else for the thrill of the hunt? I think

it's definitely one of the better episodes we've

had so far. Yep. And it gives some foreshadowing

to Ratchet and things to come. That and it also

gives you foreshadowing to... Prowl in lockdown,

as Michael said, Prowl is the only one to really

best him. And that will come up later, much,

much later. Oh, yeah. Shh. Don't say it. It's

really a free zone. Oh, yeah, that's that is

one of my favorite episodes, too. All right,

so we're moving on. Right. Transform and roll

out in your original vehicle mode. Listen up!

We need to approach with extreme caution. He's

carrying unstable dystronium. Dystronium? Why

would a small -time crook want to steal dystronium?

You think that's what turned his hair white?

White hair in organics is usually a function

of age. Age? That's it! Humblebee, what are you

doing? Using my head and my thrusters! And now

you're going down! So next up is Nanosek. To

obtain Destronium to help rebuild his body, Megatron

bails a fleet -footed thief named Nino Sexton

out of jail and gives him Isaac Sundak's experimental

super speed suit to obtain the Destronium for

him. Since the Destronium is highly unstable,

it needs to be transported quickly. No more than

for ten minutes, but from from the research lab

to Megatron directly. Meanwhile, to catch up

to the villain, Bubblebee experiments with some

new rocket boosters, but they do more harm than

good. Eventually, the Autobots exploit Nano -Stack's

weakness, rapidly accelerating age, and defeat

him through teamwork and get rid of the exploding

dystronium. When they're going to, like, this

episode started for me just like the Angry Archer

episode did. random human criminal running from

bumblebee and bulkhead my first note was we already

saw the Ed 209 cop bots we have the Ed 209 B

cop bots man these bots are dumb pursue criminal

pursue criminal whack against wall whack against

god these robots are dumb Bumblebee and bulkhead

are arguing so Nino decides that he's going to

run away and bulkhead stupidly Uses his wrecking

ball on a wooden Pier he goes your mind. We're

talking here. Why does this remind me of the

line in spider -man? Shh mom and dad have to

talk It's the scene where he spider -man puts

webbing over J Jonah's mouth because he and he

and the goblin have to talk. Yeah. Yeah That's

funny. Do you mind we're talking here? I know

that's the that's probably the only light I like

from bulkhead so far. Oh He's funny During this

whole scene while they're chasing Nino around

at the beginning. There's fireworks going off

and it makes the scene look cool because you

know When the pier caves in and Nino's hanging

by a stick, right? He's like help help optimus

prime actually pulls him out and they frame you

know, I mean, you know looking up at prime and

All around him are these fireworks. Yeah, and

I'm thinking is this supposed to be 4th of July

You could be yeah, because the next episode takes

place in October Yeah, so it's like what exactly

is the time frame here? Not that anybody knows

and or cares, but it's just like, okay, something

to think about. You know, now that you mention

about Optimus pulling Nino up and about the dock

being destroyed by Bulkhead, the first thing

I can think of is, oh my god, it's a super shredder!

Because the dot collapses when shredder becomes

super shredder and the dot collapsed because

bulkhead did something stupid Have you got your

processor up your exhaust port? Oh, I literally

I I know internet on all that stuff. We use lol

all the time. I literally laughed with that one.

Yeah, it was funny I'm gonna jinx myself here

and say Bumblebee is slightly less of a dick

in this episode so far. Well, he actually ends

up heroic by the end. Right. Yeah. Um. You know,

and again, this is another one of those episodes

where he. You start off in the beginning, he's

kind of like, oh, I'm going to make dumb decisions,

you know, and then toward the middle, he's learning

and at the end he's learned his lesson and everybody's

the better for it. If a bumblebee is the animated

version of Sam Witwicky from dark from the transformers

live action movies They make him the douche bag

of the week and then they give him all the character

development And then they take it away from him

the next episode take it right back in the next

episode. That's right Prowl, okay This is this

is what this is what really bugs me and this

is I can kind of see what Kevin was saying about

these being Metallic beings and all that in the

last episode in episode in episode one Prowl

having his foot on Nanosek would crush the human.

Yes, I know Prowl has all kinds of control and

balance and all that, but as I said, like Kevin

said in previous episode, these are metal robots,

dammit. Nanosek would be dead. Well, it was the

same thing when Prime reached out and grabbed

Nino as he fell from the pier. I'm thinking,

that would crush every bone in his hand. There's

just no way. Yeah. Um, Bumblebee, even though

he becomes the hero at the end again, he has

the worst what the fuck moment in this episode.

Instead of transforming after coming to a complete

stop on the train tracks, he just sits there

and then Bulkhead comes in and destroys the train

to save the mnemonic robot. He pulls the train

back, yeah. Why couldn't he just transform and

jump out of the way? That's what I'm saying!

If I wouldn't that have made so I mean honestly

if that was me I Just would have transformed

to the last second and dove right past the train.

I Mean that would make more sense. I mean he

could have dove past the train and then re -transformed

Yep, and granted, you know, you're supposed to

show that nanosecond faster than he is but He

didn't have to almost die by getting hit by a

train. I know And technically I'm nuts bolts

and armored plating with a few special features.

I just I love that line from optimus Nanosec

a human gets prime office feet with the cable

from his own weapon boom When I was watching

this I was thinking go for the legs it may be

our only chance Optimus Prime is not an add -at.

No, I just thought that was funny. My final note

for this one. I think back when they were out

in the galaxy that they had their Cybertronian

modes, Bumblebee had a different battle mask.

I cannot be sure about this, but I like the one

that he uses here in this episode a lot better.

One final thing I will say before I give it to

Michael or Steve is when bumblebee was coming

back down into the atmosphere And he was burning

up. I screencapped it because oh, hey, it's cliff

jumper because he turned bright red I like that

he was red and I don't consider it a Cliffjumper

homage though, because Cliffjumper actually shows

up. Yeah, I mean he shows up later, I get that,

but to someone who hasn't seen the series, they

would have noticed that as a Cliffjumper reference.

Yeah, Red Bumblebee is automatically Cliffjumper.

That's right. In any other continuity, but in

this one, Cliffjumper actually looks different.

Same alt mode, right? They make him look different.

I don't even think we see Cliffjumper's alt mode

in the series. Only in the toy. Well, right,

yeah. Most of the time he's just sitting behind

a desk. But that's way, way later. Why don't

we go to Steve first? Steve doesn't talk too

much. What do you got, Steve? I hate anything

to do with human villains. So does Kevin. I find

them extremely annoying. I don't mind Bumblebee

whatsoever. I mean, he's not the best character,

but I don't hate him. Nanosek is probably one

of the, I don't know, little bit more intelligent

villains to some extent. Just in how he looks

and is portrayed. Angry Archer and Professor

Princess are bullshit. This nanosec is not as

bad. One of the things I noticed about the Decepticon

say that Destrononium is necessary to build parts

of sufficient quality. It's got the word Destron

in it. That's clearly a nod to the Japanese.

Oh, yeah, or septicon Yeah, which I found that

was quite interesting that they they did that

As for At nanosec I just I Did not like him whatsoever.

It just I and then of course, you know Sorry

and Her stupid key. Yeah the key She played a

minor role in this. I mean, yeah, she was I barely

noticed her this time No, I liked it when she

used her key to to help bumblebee install his

his bracket boosters Yes, you know that when

he when he first uses them she's in the driver's

seat and her whole face is like Just get that

rocket propulsion going on and then once they

get over that they're like You rock! No, you

rock! No, you rock! No, you rock! I just thought

that was adorable. I like that a lot. But yeah,

she's not annoying or anything. Didn't Nanosek

get aged? Yeah, that was the weakness and Bumblebee

figured it out. He has to go as fast as possible

to where Nino... or Nanosek has to go faster,

but as Nanosek uses the suit, the suit ages him.

He died of ageism. Not died, he didn't die, but

he got weakened from ageism. He's almost like

how they used that flash from the Justice League

movie, The Alternate Earth. They made him go

so fast. He went so fast he became extremely

old and just died. But it also reminds me of

Vulture from Spider -Man. Well, Vulture was initially

old though and then he used the Tapet of Time

to get young again. He used his suit to sap life

out of people. That's yeah, that's true. So this

is actually kind of a reverse thing, but it's

it's still kind of weird. I wish you were 10

years older. I wish Nanosek would have died.

That's. Oh, I just yeah. Does he show up in the

League of Evil Eagle or League of Evil Eagle?

SUV, Society of Ultimate Villain. Yes, he does.

I think so, yeah. Did you notice he doesn't die

then? They used the return big pot again in this.

Yeah. Yeah, it uses it I didn't notice it Yeah,

yeah, and they do use it throughout the series.

So Kevin sorry about your luck, dude He's I remember

the first episode he's like I like the reference

But I hope they don't use this again in this

series ever. Sorry about your luck. They use

it throughout the series Anything else Steve

No other than I don't like this episode it should

burn in a fire other than the only significant

plot device was bumblebee got jets and Megatron

is Scrounging up materials for his body Yes,

right. What about you Michael? What did you not

like or like about the nanosec episode? You know,

I think that any human enemy they're gonna introduce

after meltdown. It's just gonna pale in comparison

Yeah, I I like that I like his name Nino Sexton

It sounds kind of like nanosec But it isn't until

he actually robs a bank and and the bank teller

says the money disappeared in a nanosec And he

knows like hey, I like that You know Arguably

lame might be lame. I don't know. I kind of enjoyed

it I think again, this is all right. This is

targeted toward children. They're probably gonna

You know giggle over it more than we will That's

creepy don't do that again Megatron speaks He

gets a Megatron talks and he says last episode

do yeah Mean he actually comes out and says don't

tell my Autobot friends He says I don't want

them to see me in this weakened state. Yeah Yeah,

yeah So they're they're keeping up the charade

Yeah, so far right the facade Bumblebee gets

his booster rockets and you know, I like this

because the rockets were on the toy Yeah, I I

think those are cool and they work in both robot

mode and vehicle mode on the toy, too So they

finally give you a prop that's actually usable.

Exactly. And the question becomes, are the rockets

a gift from Sumdac? Or did Sari just steal them?

Sari just does whatever the hell she wants to

do, just like she's like in the beginning. You

guys need a place to stay. Here's this abandoned

auto factory that my dad doesn't even know that

he has. Yeah. Well, and that leads me at the

end where you've got I'm jumping headway ahead

of all my other notes here, but you've got Some

deck and Megatron just kicking back and having

a beer and he says I wonder how that criminal

got my you know super speed suit and You know

Megatron's like I believe it was an inside job

and you know, it's funny, but You know, the first

thing some deck should've said is, that fucking

Sari's been in my lap again. She just runs off

with anything that's not nailed down. Someone's

gonna have to spank her and just tell her no.

Danny, spank! Don't spank me, Danny, stop! I

mean, I'll swipe her, no swiping. Oh, God. Come

here, Sari. We must thank you with my robot drone.

Come here Megatron, you must spank Megatron.

With my big hand. With my big hand. You know

what's funny too is we were talking about parallels

between the first Transformers movie and this.

I think in the last episode we were talking about

the Cosmic Cube, or the AllSpark. Yeah, being

an Agela and analogous and ageless analogous

to the he said aglet a G le t I Forget how the

song goes now damn it Finish some for reference.

Sorry. Yes. Yes. Yeah anyway, but yeah, so there's

that and then there's a Completely lost my train

of thought. Oh god something about the all spark

and the comparisons between the movie and this

Yeah, yeah, and I lost it you threw out a Phineas

and Ferb reference my mind All right, move on

move right along there. Yeah, so I like the Megatron

The way he uses the high -speed pulse messaging

So that yeah, that was cool. Yeah nanosec is

running really fast and he sees this giant Megatron

head front of him and it's not Like a dismantled

Megatron head. It's Megatron. Yeah, which I thought

ruled, you know, yeah It was a little Less believable

when his face popped up on an ATM It's like first

of all here let me send over You know, some DAX

bank account numbers. Well, again, it goes to

my point earlier in the last episode of the podcast.

Megatron is tied into his system. Think of Megatron

as the brainiac of Transformers animated. He

can do anything. Except build a body. He needs

the key to do that. Well, we got a few more episodes

before we get to that. Give me life. So he's

liking the the the Destronium The Destron metal.

Oh, that's what I was gonna say the the parallel

to the movie was When old man Witwick he finds

Megatron in the Arctic It's his head and the

hand that he falls into and now in some decks

lab. You've got Megatron's head and Megatron's

hand Yeah, that was a really roundabout way to

get to that particular point. Sorry. There you

go. Yeah. I like the prowl of trying to teach

Bumblebee patience. He's very zen. And then he

turns on his holographic writer. Yeah. that's

cool i like that you know and i like the fact

that what makes it cool is he the holographic

writer turns to bumblebee and says happy exactly

the fact that the when pral talks the the cop

moves his mouth too i mean yeah i like that i

think that's cool um they made a reference to

i -94 that goes yeah goes through detroit it's

funny because i take i -94 to work funny midwest

reference there Yes, uh Bumblebee I don't know

if he said this before or not, but he the bumblebee

isms pop out this episode He says I'm the fastest

thing on wheels Yeah, has he said that before

I don't think so and the other one is he says

let's motor that's motor yeah, I like I don't

mind let's motor but I've said it before and

I'm probably going to say it again in future

episodes. The problem with Bumblebee is the ego.

I just don't like the ego. But I really do like

Let's Motor. That's a good saying. I like that.

Let's Motor in Motown. They're in Detroit. Exactly.

You're killing me. What? It was right there.

It's funny. That's funny. Anything else on nanosec

fire guts bumblebee That's a Japanese reference,

yeah, anytime anytime a character turns red They

repaint them in red translucent plastic and call

them fire guts. Yeah, so fire gets bumblebee

I'm kind of glad that we didn't get a straight

red, you know bumblebee repaint because That

would end up being a cliff jumper later on Yeah,

I like cliff jumper a lot better than I would

like a red bumblebee But they only made they

only made activators cliff jumper didn't they

they didn't make like a deluxe cliff jumper Uh,

no, I think you're right. Yeah, but but I mean

he had a different head Right. Well, I mean normally

The only the only one I can the only one I can

compare is war for Cybertron, you know Bumblebee

Cliffjumper war for Cybertron. It's the same

body, but the Cliffjumper has a different head

Right. All right, exactly. Well, they did the

same thing with the seeker jets, too I mean sometimes

you'll get a seeker repaint in an activator size

and sometimes you'll get a seeker repaint in

a Voyager size Yeah, I mean they kind of go back

and forth. No But the Repaint I'd like to see

is when he turns gray at the end because I thought

he died Yeah, you know he turned he they said

oh we're gonna need your electro magnetism to

slow him down and you know I'm gonna use my phone

to cool him down and when he hits the ground

he's gray and We know from the pilot that when

you turn gray, you're dead. Well, but now there's

a difference though Bumblebee didn't hit the

ground. He Ratchet's magnetism kind of brought

him down gently And the whole gray thing was

from burning up in the atmosphere. It's burn

marks, but it's gray because of what Optimus

did with his fire extinguisher deal -y thingamajig.

Right, right. So he didn't die. When he landed,

his eyes were still open. His eyes were still

blue. He didn't fade out. If the eyes aren't

gray, he's not dead. Close his eyes. Yes, I close

his eyes and then die But no he was he was up

and walking and talking pretty soon afterwards.

So hey, that's cool But no a gray bumblebee repaint

would have been awesome. I Would I'd take that

even as a like a knockoff for bootleg? Oh, yeah,

I think that would be neat and At the end, you

know, he walks home. So he's learned He's like

I'm the fastest thing on wheels. Watch me now,

you know and Well, at the end, he's like, I think

I think I'll just walk if that's cool. Yeah.

So, yeah, lesson learned. How long that'll last?

I don't know. But yeah, not very long. So with

that, we're going to be moving on. I know all

your moves. Your textbook. Do I know you? I know

how easily you forget your friends. Although

you managed to remember sentinel that day Alita

one it's black arachnia now But I thought you

were If either of you had bothered to search

for me you would have seen what happened I Tried

to use my downloading power on the spiders, but

I ended up infecting myself with their organic

venom Became something else not Autobot not organic.

I was nothing but a freak Your organic hat must

have masked your energy signature Had I known

I would have what brought me back to Cybertron

to be dismantled and examined on some lab table

So You allied yourself with the Decepticons instead.

At least I know where I stand with them. And

finally up today is Along Came a Spider. It's

Halloween and Sari introduces the Autobots to

Earth's custom and candy traditions. However,

the entire affair brings up bad memories for

Optimus, who is haunted by the ghosts of his

past, specifically when he and his fellow bots,

the cocky and arrogant Sentinel Prime and power

-mimicking Elita -1, were looking for a crashed

Decepticon ship loaded with energon cubes. When

Sari takes Mumblebee and Bulkhead trick -or -treating,

the spider -like Decepticon Black Arachnia formerly

Elita -1, shows up and targets Sari's ki. She

wants the ki to get rid of her organic half that

she got when she was on the Organic Planet infested

with giant spiders. The spider's venom somehow

mutated her Cybertronian systems, making her

a freak. After seeing how Sari's ki can heal

Autobots, she wants to use it to purge her organic

half. However, her body can't survive without

her organic half. Now, as a result of using the

key, she nearly kills off all organic matter

in the entire city, which includes herself and

Sari. Optimus gets the key away from her and

Blackarachnia escapes alone once again. So, it's

just dressing up and bribing people for this,

you know, sugary confection type. I don't know.

It's one of the quotes in the episode. So, just

his simple -minded, not really that Optimus Prime

is simple -minded, but just his, the way that

they're introducing the humans, they're introducing

the robots to Earth and humanity, I find it really

good because they don't... The Autobots don't

get it. The Transformers just don't get it quite.

Yeah. They think of everything literally. Yeah,

it's kind of like going back to the first couple

episodes when Prime first meets Saree and he's

like, how do you get those smaller organics?

Oh! Yeah, OK. Well, it's even worse. It's like,

you know, what's baby food? That's like, rrr.

food actually made out of babies and they see

everything and it's a literal explanation yeah

that takes the wonder out of it so wait optimus

wanted to do the the right and responsible thing

of leaving the planet yet sentinel wanted to

find the inner johnny goodness what the fuck

i i don't want to say that this is out of character

for him It probably isn't, but my point is that

in the first part of the flashback, Optimus is

trying to be the responsible one, and in the

second part of the flashback, when they've already

left Elita, Optimus is like, oh, well, we have

to go because the planet's going to explode,

or something's going to happen, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, all the energon was about to go up, but

they didn't want to sit on top of it. Yeah, the

energon was about to go up. And Sentinel's like,

no, we have to go back for her. Right. I mean

I I liked seeing primes Cybertron mode again.

I Thought that was cool. Yeah, I I Yeah, I like

to lead a one I mean I like seeing her she wasn't

you know, the leader of the fembots here at this

point She's still young and she has a ponytail

Yeah, kind of funny But no, it was a nice flashback

scene. I'm wondering if they're over using flashbacks

at this point Because we just had Ratchet flashbacks

and now we've got Prime flashbacks. But it really

serves to push the story along. Yeah, it does.

Again, a LOL moment. Sari's costume and impression

of Optimus is priceless. It just is. I do stuff

like that. I like Bumblebee's reaction. Eek!

It's big, black, lots of legs! Ah, real monsters!

Even though he doesn't say, ah, real monsters,

I added that in. Bumblebee as a vampire and walking

all over Bulkhead's fumigation tent costume is

kinda cool! I like the vampire costume. I'm really

surprised that somebody, you know, like Unicron

.com or the Lucas Brothers or something Didn't

come up with like a costume for him so that you

could put fangs like stickers or fang stickers

or A cape on him to make him look like it's Halloween

costume Yeah, I totally would have bought that.

Yeah, so Basically, Alita 1's power is a Transformers

version of Rogue from the X -Men. I was so gonna

say that! Yeah, that's basically what she does.

She absorbs people's power. Now, I gotta warn

Kevin, because this might be a little bit of

spoiler. I'm not doing this intentionally, but

you might want to skip ahead a few moments here.

So instead of Optimus and Alita being an item,

Sentinel has feelings for Alita. While this being

new continuity and all, why the Slagnaut? And

when I first wrote that note and I said, why

the Slagnaut, the first thing I thought of was,

okay, you have Slipknot, a hardcore rock band.

The Transformers band of that would be called

Slagnaut. How is that spoilery? Because later...

Later down the line we find out that Sentinel

was the one that had feelings for her. We know

that because in the beginning of the episode

when we first meet him, Sentinel has his arm

around her. It's clear that Elita -1 is Sentinel's

girlfriend. Yeah, okay. And that's what makes

it that much harder for Sentinel to say, okay,

fine, let's go. Prime says we gotta leave and

Sentinel's like, no, I'm staying. I gotta go

get her. Let's get this girlfriend. He's not

just gonna leave her behind Cyber Venom yay a

Beast Wars reference And here's where you you

mentioned about Lockdown being a muscle car here.

Here's where the other car reference comes in

When sorry is trying to reactivate bulkhead.

It sounds like a car trying to turn over Yeah,

I thought that was funny and my final note was

spider bot has ninja like moves when she was

basically facing off with optimus she was she

was putting some karate on his ass well then

she basically says you know i can anticipate

every move you make yeah you know you're you're

basically i learned them all too at the same

time you did yeah and as if all of the uh i want

to say the power duplication the the the rogue

power uh this Blackarachnia shows off by that

point doesn't beat you over the head enough to

say hey stupid. This is actually lead a one Yeah,

I know yeah, I mean if she finally comes out

and says alright dumbass I'm gonna tell you straight

up. I'm a lead a one. Yeah Yeah, I mean I figured

it out long before Yeah What about you Steve

what do you got for a long came a spider? Alrighty

um Well to start out I think that the Halloween

again another useless attempt at something kiddish

again this falls in the category of twister yeah

one episode ago it was fourth of July so yeah

and now it's Halloween yeah my my how time flies

in the Transformers animated universe yeah I

thought it was kind of interesting to see Elita

and Sentinel in this episode. Yeah. Especially

because when you see Elita in the flashback,

you realize that is Blackarachnia. Yeah, I knew

immediately. You can tell by the outline, the

design, and some of the coloring. You can't make

that assumption because it's like, well, of course

there are other female robots. It's not just

her. She's not the only one The reason why I

made the assumption is is because in the pilot

movie black arachnia in shadow talks to blitzwing

and Lugnut so I heard Cree summer's voice Yeah,

and then you have Cree summer voicing Elita one

again. Yeah, so It's like, you know It doesn't

really come across up until Optimus and Alita

-1 end up into Decepticon's ship. And they're

like, oh, wow, there is a lot of Energon here.

And right next to the Energon is a helmet. And

it's the same helmet that Blackarachnia later

wears. Oh, see, I didn't catch that. I caught,

I knew it was going to be Blackarachnia at that

moment because of all the spiders around them.

Right. Well, I mean, Chris Summer, Is uh, yeah,

I love her voice acting by the way everything

she does is awesome. Yeah, but She has done other

voices For the series she did I want to say she

did teletran. I Think that was Tara strong, but

I'll have to go back and look I want to say it

was Greece summer who did the who did this voice

for teletran but no, I You know, I like her and

everything she's in but when Saw that helmet.

That's what sealed it. It was like now clearly

Alita one is You know and by the end of the show

they actually beat you over the head with it.

Oh Yeah Still a cool point though. It's neat

I like how they they take a Beast Wars reference

and they tie it into a g1 reference Yeah, I like

how they kind of showed her backstory and why

she's so hateful of Autobots Yeah Well, I mean

she basically considers herself a freak It's

like Beast Machines Megatron. It's like I hate

my beast mode Yep Exactly Anything else Steve?

No, that's it Well, then I'll rant for a bit

You think it's funny the bulkhead looks like

pig pen in this giant fumigation tent Just walking

around kicking up dust Yeah, it was it was very

snoopy for me thought that was hilarious I like

Sorry's costume I was calling her sorry miss

prime Yeah, I thought it was funny the prime

is afraid of spiders and You know at the beginning

of episode it's like man. What a giant was he's

afraid of spiders, right? And it's weird that

He's a robot. You know what when could he have

possibly? been exposed to it spiders that would

make him this afraid of spiders and then they

get into the the whole spider planet thing but

uh he basically makes the call to leave Alita

behind and you know he has to live with that

it's not something that really plagues him the

way that the loss of RC plagues Ratchet you know

clearly he's not he's not old and gruff yet right

the Sentinel You know, well, we'll meet him later

on again, but Sentinel Just will hate him forever

for this. He will never forgive him for this.

Oh Yeah, I mean to the point where you know Sentinel

carries around, you know anti Organic bug spray

wherever he goes It's it's just weird how it

all ties together Agreed black arachnia They

I don't want to say they go out of her way to

make her flirty right but towards the end You

know when she's fighting prime. She's very flirty

with him You know and sex appeal doesn't negate

the fact that you just tornado transformed And

she did just like hey, that's that's not cool

All right, you know, I thought we already, you

know, we already stated flatly that we're not

going to tornado transform. Everyone's got their

own stock footage already. You can't do that.

That's not that's not kosher, but she does it

anyway. I like the vampire bite that drains energon

from people. Yeah, I think it was it was very

night scream. Hmm. Beast machines reference there.

Yes. Yeah, that could be and yeah Yeah, it's

not as annoying as night screams vampire drain

You know, it's not as loud and painful to listen

to But you know basically that's how she walks

away in the end she's completely drained after

using Sari's key to try to Get rid of her own

beast mode You know, and she's not gonna walk

away after this until prime, you know big dumb

idiot that he is walks right up to her and says

Anything I can do for you. Are you okay? And

she's like screw you buddy and bites him Yeah,

yeah, yeah, that's basically that's basically

it but You know, she doesn't kill prime. She

just drains some of this energy and then runs

off and I don't know mean Primes mistakes in

the past have definitely come back to haunt him

And black arachnia, you know, who knows maybe

she'll come around someday Beast Wars black arachnia

did Yeah, she eventually turned out to be a good

guy in the end. There's always that possibility

There is no silver bolt here though. Oh what

well I want to say if somewhere later on Sentinel

meets up with Black Ragnia again and basically

goes, ooh, I can't believe I liked you. I don't

remember off the top of my head. And while I'm

thinking about it, I did look up on the TF Wiki,

Tara Strong, Voice Roles, Transformers Animated,

Sari Sumdak, Teletran 1, Reception Bot, Daniel,

Carly, Slow Mo, Slipstream, Strika, Red Alert.

So yes, she did, Tara did voice Teletran 1. Damn.

See, I was a much happier person when I thought

that was Kree. You just ruined my whole day,

thanks. You're welcome. But yeah, I don't think

there was enough seasons here for Black Arachne

to turn her back around. I think the last time

we see her, she's busy using the Dinobots as

her own personal strike force. Well, that and

she's also, that's getting into spoilers. Sorry,

Kevin. It's Michael's fault this time. I almost

said something else, but it's Michael's fault

this time Yeah, you wouldn't hit a girl right

sucker You wouldn't hit a bat with glasses would

you flop? So anything else in the long came a

spider no, I think I like the episode I I would

say that's uh I Well, I would say that I didn't

enjoy it as much as Thrill of the Hunt, just

because, you know, Lance Henrickson didn't voice

Blackarachnia. That would be a very different

show if he did. Very different. But no, I did

like it. I really liked seeing Blackarachnia

again. You know, and I had one more comment,

but I'm going to leave it for after Kevin's comments.

And I'm sure all three of us, Steve included,

can agree that out of the three episodes today,

Thrill of the Hunt and Along Came a Spider are

the best ones. Yeah. Two out of three ain't bad.

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destroy you Hey guys, it's Optimus Solo, reporting

live from Cybertron, giving you my thoughts from

a first time viewer on these three episodes of

Transformers Animated. And we're starting today

with The Thrill of the Hunt, written by Andrew

Robinson. First off, I would just like to get

the nitpicky negative stuff out of the way. First

of all, why is lockdown a muscle car also on

Cybertron? Shouldn't he be in some type of Cybertronian

mode? And why does he look like the... ICP version

of Decepticon and hopefully people know what

I mean by that. Okay, I get Optimus Prime is

young and fine, he can have the gay young sounding

voice, that's fine. But can he please stop being

a pansy for the love of God? The only other nitpicky

thing about this episode is I hate the backgrounds

during fight scenes when it goes all hyperdrive

-esque background colors and lot diagonal lines

and stuff. Why can't the fight scenes have the

regular background, but... Again, that's nitpicky.

Let's get to the good stuff about this episode.

First of all, I like the transformer sounding

horn on Bumblebee right at the beginning. That

was a nice little touch. Susan Blue as Arcee.

Come on, it doesn't get any better than that.

And I don't know if anybody else caught this,

but I swear that was a Hector Ramirez homage

with the news reporter, the guy that used to

do all the news reporting on the Sunbow series,

like GI Joe and G1 and et cetera. I swear it

looked like him. So if that was their... intention

that was awesome. I love Ratchet's character

in this one. I love the development we're getting

in Ratchet's character. I love the little broken,

his broken piece eyebrow light thing. I like

to call it an eyebrow. And how they actually

even explain it in this episode, how he got it.

It took me a long time through this episode until

I realized why the episode wasn't annoying me

and why I was enjoying it so much. That's right,

no humans. Yay. Anyways, I know it's been done

a couple times here with the person that gathers

trophies kind of. Best known probably general

Grievous as he as he collected all the different

lightsabers, and that's basically what lockdowns

doing That's what we'll see later in transformers

prime with a arachnid, but they did it right

in this episode So I'm not gonna complain about

it. This was a solid episode I haven't looked

ahead to see who writes all the future episodes

But I hope Andrew Robinson does more thrill of

the hunt eight out of ten best episode of the

series so far and Next we talk about nanosecond

every time I see Marty Eisenberg as the writer

I don't know what to expect so far. He is all

over the place. And this one, well, let's just

do it quick, short, and sweet here. I reiterate

my point from before. The look of the humans

in this series is terrible. Triangular chins,

yes, that's pathetic and lazy. Dystronium, give

me a break. Is it just me or is Optimus Prime

like a never -ending PSA talking about insurance?

I mean, I feel like we're watching the PSAs of

the old 80s cartoons at the end. That's every

time Optimus speaks. The dude's name is Nano

Sexton. Are you fucking kidding me? I don't want

to talk about this episode anymore. I can sum

it up by giving it a 1 out of 10. This episode

sucked balls. Let's move on to something a little

bit better, which is the next episode along came

a spider also written by Marty Eisenberg Which

proves my point that he is all over the place

with his writing some of its good some of its

bad We're finally it's episode 9. We're finally

getting some optimist prime character development

about damn time So black arachnia is the female

version of lockdown I mean, seriously, guys,

that was two episodes ago, and we're already

reusing somebody, a bad character that's collecting

trophies or gathering stuff from old people.

I know it's not exactly the same, but it seems

like we're reusing that a little bit. But so

far they've done it right both times. It just

seems weird that just two episodes, we kind of

did the same thing. My biggest nitpick of this

episode is probably the whole Halloween backstory

with the humans and everything that's kind of

gay. Oh wait, Grant Hill said I shouldn't say

that. But I guess it goes along with the whole

spider, black, or acne theme, so we'll let it

slide. The Alita 1 black or acne angle is clever

as hell. The whole organic harkens back to Beast

Wars thing. I was worried that I thought it was

going to be trying too much to be like Beast

Wars, but I think it just kind of straddled the

line perfectly. And it was clever. You know,

you couldn't have necessarily expected that or

seen that coming. So I'll give them credit for

coming up with an original unique idea and not

just recycling stories that we've already seen

before. Also, I meant to mention this before

back in the first episode I was talking about

today, but the first episode in this episode

when they're doing flashbacks just proves how

stupid it was in the very first episode of the

entire series that they actually used G1 style

footage because Now we had a flashback in the

very first episode that flashback to G1 style.

And now we've had two flashbacks that look completely

animated style. I'm fine with the animated style

flashbacks. It's just another reason why they

should have never used that G1 footage in the

first episode. But just wanted to point that

out. And the main reason I like this episode

is because it has so far the single best line

I've heard in Transformers animated when Sari

says about her key quote Maybe I should give

this key a rest unquote hell. Yes, you should

Honestly, I would have given this one a seven

out of ten until at the very last scene. They

made black arachnia cry They had her crying.

Yes, so we're knocking this one from a 7 out

of 10 down to a 6 out of 10 So those are my thoughts

on these three episodes We'll see where it goes

from here and now back to the crew on earth now

back to transformation animation podcast We are

back here on earth and thank you to Kevin for

his Cybertronian correspondence as far as his

thoughts go really quick As far as to fill the

hunt leave optimus alone you solo bastard. Just

leave him alone. Damn it uh... no humans hahaha

uh... michael any any uh... response for a thrill

of a hunt to kevin uh... not especially on the

the first episode i mean i i think uh... everybody

enjoyed that one uh... um... yeah i am glad there's

yeah the no human thing and then yeah leave primalong

he doesn't deserve it And then as far as nanosec,

we kind of already explained this, and I explained

this to Kevin Allfair after I received his clip.

Nino Sexton was the guy's name, and then someone

said he had moved in a nanosec. Right. As far

as along came a spider... Back up. What, nanosec?

Comments on nanosec. Oh, okay. Steve, anything?

No. That's why I moved on well I got to here

the first thing is that the Kevin was complaining

about the hyper speed lines during action scenes

right and basically the the speed lines during

action scenes replace the background in in anime

this is like an anime staple and You know suffice

to say it's supposed to be that way Just because

we mentioned this before is that the show is

taking a more of an anime a centric design So

yeah, I mean it could be lame, especially with

a series like this where the backgrounds are

so nice Yeah, but you know, basically that's

how it's supposed to be. And secondly dystronium

We talked about this earlier dystronium is a

play on the word Destron which is the Japanese

name for Decepticon It's not it's not something

stupid like avatars unobtainium And again, it's

clever it's not it's not a cop -out in the writing

at all Moving on to the last episode notes for

a long came a spider Steve anything Steve no

nothing I'll have to make sure I hear it. Lost

him or he fell asleep again. I muted my mic.

Oh, okay. I do that sometimes. Michael, anything

on a long camera spider? Yes. First of all, Blackarachnia

is not a female lockdown. She's able to temporarily

duplicate the signature powers of other robots.

Alita 1 had this power earlier. And and sort

of black arachnia. This is why they beat you

over the head with the fact that the same person

She doesn't take trophies like lockdown does

she's just using that same power like like rogue

Yeah, and secondly, I liked black arachnia crying

at the end Honestly, you know she's been through

a lot and she has just met up and got saved by

the guy who did this to her for all intents and

purposes. She needed a good cry. Anyone needs

a good cry. Now, Kevin did go into detail with

me off air about what his point was about the

two similarities between Black Arachne and Lockdown.

Basically what he's saying is he doesn't like

the two character points having kind of the same

power thing. Within so many episodes in between

like it's like one episode in between the two

that use this type of power. Yes Lockdown and

Blackarachnia, it's different, but it's still

to a first -time watcher. It could be considered

similar As far as Alita 1 Blackarachnia's power

I actually did some research because I wanted

to know if they were doing Transformers animated

Alita as a G1 homage I mean, I know the name

and I know all that but I looked this up and

I wrote this down, I copied it off a wiki. G1

Alita 1. Desperate, Alita triggered her time

-stopping power, which allowed her to save Optimus,

but expended nearly all her life force doing

so. But it kills her, yeah. Right. In Animated,

you have, in her mutant -techno -organic form,

she makes use of her newfound cybervenom to paralyze

her enemies and combines this with her natural

ability to download and mimic other Transformers.

Traits and weaponry for a limited amount of time

with simple touch. I hope nobody told lockdown

Well, I think that with her Spider powers, right?

I think the ability to mimic other powers is

just overkill. It makes her too powerful at that

point Yeah, I would have been happier if she

just did to have that power at all. Yeah, she's

she could have had I don't know a javelin or

something like Lady J out of G .I. Joe. Prime

has his axe, Sentinel Prime has his shield, and

she has a javelin. And that would have been fine

for me. And it wasn't necessary to the plot.

I mean, yeah, she had duplicated Optimus Prime's

grappler. It faded out on her and she fell to

her death or so they thought She could have fell

in any way a prime could have been holding her

in one hand and slipped and she fell You know

which would make his guilt even that much more

deep, but It wasn't integral to the story They

they don't bring it up again later on as far

as I far as I remember Yeah, I mean honestly

she she could have just relied upon it on her

spider powers and that would have been fine The

thing about Alita before she became black arachnia

They kept optimus kept pointing out and she kept

pointing out her power does not work on organics

This as far as he knows Right, but this ever

seen organics before right? Well when that went

when that kept being said that's what actually

led me to search out and try to remember what

G1 Alita's power was because that's what I thought

they were going for. I thought they were going

for the time stopper power that just kills her.

That's what I thought they were going for here

with Alita 1 and animated, but they went a slightly

different way. And I don't mind it because it

gives you all this character development for

Optimus and Sentinel. Right. And yeah, especially

Sentinel. It really shines a light on where he's

coming from when you do meet him. When he does

become a main character, you really see just

why he's so screwed up in the head. Exactly.

It's like, why is Sentinel such a deck to prime?

Well, this is why. Yes. So thank you again, Kevin.

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week because Michael is going on vacation. His

wife kidnapped him. That's right. And we have

to watch four episodes as opposed to three, so

it's gonna take an extra week to get through

that one extra episode. Blotty blah blah blah.

Transform and roll out!