Superior Spider-Man Issues #5-7 Discussion

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spider -man as If you find listeners have heard

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and episode 5 is where JT talked about Dream

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gonna take a quick break You're gonna hear a

quick audio clip and welcome back to talk about

several issues from the superior spider -man

And a good morning to you, J. Jonah Loudmouth.

All right, so first up in this superior episode

of The Pullback, we have Superior Spider -Man

number five. Thoughts on the cover, JT? Creepy.

Yeah, what's Spidey doing with a gun? Well, yeah,

that... I just don't get this cover. You know

clearly spider -man is gonna use a gun. I mean,

it's a foreshadowing kids yeah, but not a big

fan of the cover I I actually like the cover.

I think it's cool. It's better than the number

four issue cover Not counting the very like like

I mentioned back in episode two of the podcast

when we talked about issues one through four

yeah When we got to issue four it was like It's

massacre and spider -man's holding his hands

up like no mr.. Massacre sir. Don't shoot me.

Oh god. I hate that cover I almost wish I would

have spent the damn $35 at my local store to

get the variant cover Which is just spider -man

swinging on the page, but this cover. I like

this cover. I think it's interesting I think

it's gonna draw people into like why is spider

-man using a gun? Yeah, I know I mean honestly

the the variant cover market has kind of had

a resurgence in the last couple of years like

a lot of people are you know just it's something

that marvel's getting back into i mean dc just

quick aside for like the first issue of their

new justice league of america famously has 52

different covers for all 52 states what uh yeah

and you know the math on that is wrong yeah but

uh there are some alternate covers like there's

an alternate cover by uh an artist named mark

bagley who has had he's one of the more notable

spider -man artists from he started in the 90s

uh and he and brian michael bendis together broke

stanley and jack kirby's consecutive issue run

because lee and kirby did like i think it was

like 100 straight issues on like fantastic four

And Bagley and Bendis did like 106 issues on

the original run of Ultimate Spider -Man and

the Ultimate Marvel imprint. And I managed to

pick up both the regular cover and the Mark Bagley

cover, which is basically Superior Spider -Man

crawling on some criminals that he's, you know,

webbed up. And they all are like, oh, please,

God, don't hurt me. Look on their face. And so

there was a variant for number five. There's

actually a few different variants. Number five.

My comic shop actually just happened to get the

one variant, so I was like, cool, bagly, you

know, which I am prone to buy a variant now and

again. I got like this variant cover from Guardians

of the Galaxy number one where Rocket Raccoon

is watering a flower pot and Groot's head pops

out screaming, I am Groot. So it's neither here

nor there, but I enjoyed this alternate cover

at least, which... A lot more than the, hey,

Spearman's just blown a hole through something.

If you don't mind me asking, what did you pay

for the variant? The variant was the same cover

price as the regular cover. Wow. Then my shop

really extorts people because with the other

one, with the number four cover, it was a...

well that's a guy's name let me look at it really

quick i've got this i've already got marvel pulled

up so view of variant covers the variant cover

was um... it's just it's just um... spidey swinging

in and webbing and i went it's uh... diodato

whoever... mike diodato yeah no it's... right

i went to my shop they said that we only have

one It's 35 bucks and we base it on what they're

selling for on eBay. Oh, yeah, that's that's

just Wow, I'm thinking that's ridiculous. You

know, I love the great escape here in Louisville,

Kentucky. They're great. They're a great store

there, you know. I love going up there and talking

to them every now and then, and I love getting

my comics from them, but I'm sorry, that's just

ridiculous. That's I thought the exact same thing

you just said, because it says here on Marvel

dot com, you know. You know, $3 .99. That's what

it says. So I figured that going up to the shop,

it would be $3 .99. Apparently, I was wrong.

Yeah, no, it's... I mean, every shop does something

different. I mean, basing it off of eBay sales,

that's their own choice entirely, and obviously,

they're trying to gouge. So that's not cool,

man. Well, I mean, it's alright, it's whatever,

but back to issue five, before we get so far

off track. Us off the beaten track, are you sure?

More? Yeah, yeah, I know. More massacre. Didn't

we get rid of this guy? Well, you know, see what

happens. But, yeah, I mean, to begin the issue,

again, cover, recap, uh... Well, I mean, yeah,

but I like how they're doing this. I like how,

like, the first page is the superior Spider -Man.

It basically catches you up. Yeah. I like how

they do that on one page in four small panels

with little, like, smaller writing on it versus

taking, say, the first actual page of the story

and, like, doing it a full spread. So I like

that they do that in the very beginning on the

first page, and then the second page is obviously

where the story for issue five... Comes up so

I do like that and I love the fact that marvel

and a few years ago started doing the recap pages

They tried this in the late 90s after the whole

onslaught heroes reborn heroes return Where you

know the Avengers and the Fantastic Four went

off to an alternate world for a year because

hey, we're gonna try something different But

yeah, no, I enjoy the recaps especially since

you know, it's suppose this is your first issue

of superior spider -man, you know, you haven't

Read the first four issues, right? So, you know,

it catches you up quick and you know, it hooks

you is like Why is dr. Octopus in spider -man's

body? Okay and read on Peter's still there massacre.

But yeah, like you said It's it's a cool thing

and it's better than some of the other some other

series that try with the recap pages where it's

like one shot of a panel and a paragraph of text

so Yeah Home mocha cola thing. It's like we only

have this type of cola. Oh, that's too bad pulls

trigger You know and then obviously we're You

know the president of fizzy cola Yeah Yeah, and

I love the fact that it's you know, it's Nora

Winters who is you know, it's the lowest lane

of Marvel Basically, yeah, and she's dating the

hobgoblin but more on that later. Oh boy On the

next page after we see the whole mocha cola fizzy

cola thing what I do like is that one small panel

where Spidey oc says it's working and his whole

eyes and face like I thought that was a I thought

that was a cool visual and I like I like the

way that that looks yeah, but I mean before we

skip to that I mean you got Should mention how

all of a sudden massacre becomes Batman and he

pops into this lady's apartment Miranda Pullman

who's the president of fizzy coal that owns Burger

Town and he's like I got a deal for you You know

look at all the negative me you got where you

use like Miss America who's like this golden

age Marvel hero? You know and you're thinking

everyone hated you for it. No, what if your company

used Hitler? Which was okay you sticking it out

there So, and there's absolutely, I don't think

there's any explanation as to why, like the setup

of how he's kidnapped the Doorman's family to

get into the building. I mean, that jives with

what's gone with him before, but are we to believe

that massacres come up with this plot to disgrace

Mocha Cola, because he prefers fizzy cola, based

after breaking out of the insane asylum and murdering

his doctor? He's like, hey, I'm gonna go to the

competition. I'm gonna help them out massively.

It's like this is Makes absolutely no sense.

I know and this is why I don't like this issue.

I wish that I Wish that something would have

happened in issue four whether it's oxbite II

killing him or whether it's you know The whole

massacre thing could have been done in well Yeah,

it's taken three issues right because it started

in issue three, didn't it? Started last issue

did it Wow, but yeah, no, that's that's the whole

thing starting to rip But I mean, it's like I

said last time we were here It's like I I think

I like the idea of massacre like this guy who

doesn't put any more value into human life than

a cup of coffee And all of a sudden he's like

ready to like martyr himself Or something to

like it makes absolutely no sense, you know,

he You go to the next page where you see Superior

Spider -Man working with Uatu Jackson, who is

another character they introduced in Amazing

Spider -Man when Peter started working in Horizon

Labs, who's this kid whose parents are fantastic

for fan -persons, so much so that they named

their only son after the Watcher, thus ensuring

him getting beaten up every day in school. You

know and then he created this software that's

it's basically it's like kind of an aspect of

big brother where you know the software looks

through all sorts of video feeds and face facial

recognition and everything and he's basically

using it to track down you know massacre and

I even love the one thing where we want to goes

I don't like this it's too much power for one

guy and spider -man's like I'm no big brother

I'm spider -man think of this as part of a friendly

neighborhood watch and then ghost peter is like

oh hey hey facepom he's like you're see see i

like this stuff with spider rock versus ghost

peter and and the whole interaction with a lot

too i like all that it's just that i personally

don't think that massacre is decent enough like

okay he's he's essentially he's not as good but

he's essentially a joker ripoff for Marvel that's

that's what he is to me he's a mass murderer

who is psychotic yeah and I just don't give a

shit I like nothing about his story nothing okay

I mean his or do you know what the origin of

massacre like Have you looked back at all of

that or should I just drop it on you? No, I'm

just going off of what I've read currently. I

haven't gone back and looked. I'm just giving

my impressions as of what he's done here in these

books. I haven't gone back and done any research

on his character. I'm just talking about how

he is now. And how he is now is to me, you'll

like this, he's a combination of a shitty joker

clone and mad stan mad stan from batman i could

see that i could see that wants to blow everything

up yeah overload batman too much information

you know voice of perfection by henry roland

said oh yes most definitely you know but you

know it's okay so spider -man's got the facial

rec prog recognition program going on he's like

moving on to my next start of business and of

course you know that this is the one thing like

It's not that I dislike Peter Parker, but the

whole idea where he's like what There's no next

trick him down. She's leads do something and

then you see spider -rock, you know or Otto we

can just call you know Otto goes to his tutor

who's Anna Maria Marconi who? start thinking

the guy created the radio and See this little

little person who's his physics tutor for his?

doctorate basically and you you go in and I love

the fact that you know they give her like this

really kind of spunky attitude and then you find

out that she's like one of the she's a science

chef using you know physics and science to make

food and all of a sudden Otto is just like hot

damn food yeah I have people might hate me for

this but when I saw this whole Story of my first

thought is Otto's a genius. Why does he need

a physics tutor? Well, yeah, but I mean I Know

why he's doing it. It's part of the cover. He's

he's trying to fit in as as Peter I I get that

now the other thing is I'm a doctor But well

just cuz the last issue is like call me dr. P.

You don't have a doctorate of a doctorate, right?

Yeah When I first saw this chick, I'm like, hey

What's Penelope from Wreck -It Ralph doing in

here? I swear to God! Look, take a - Yeah, I

can see it, I can see it. Take this panel, take

this panel where, the one that you're talking

about, where Peter's like, oh, come on, dog.

He knocks on the door. She opens the door. If

you took where she opens the door and put a side

by side with Penelope, Vaughn, whatever, I forget.

Vaughn Schweetz. Vaughn Schweetz. You know, you

take the two of them, put them left to right,

I guarantee you they look very similar. Oh, yeah.

Just based off this one image. Yeah, I know.

I love that. But yeah, I just love the fact that

all of a sudden Otto's just like, oh god, food.

Yeah, you know and then you see them going through

the physics like through their tutoring Auto

drops a little science honor about the unstable

molecules and she's so impressed. She's like

look, you know dessert you learned it And even

before we go to the next panel, I'm thinking

cheese he's gonna get fat You don't even ghost

well ghost Peters like walking eating all those

carbs and does oh for I'm gonna have enough auto

Octavia size gut And it's just it's the running

commentary of ghost Peter that kind of makes

makes yeah for some things in this book so far

Yeah, it is between between between her like

one liners that she has with with auto and The

ghost Peter commentary. That's what makes the

issue for me But like I said the rest of it And

then we get a splash page of Like you said earlier,

you know spidey swinging out and ghost Peter

swinging with him apparently yeah then you know

he's calling the cops for backup and getting

the MTA police on site as it says and Peter's

like calling cops for bet. I never thought of

that And Peter he is doing a lot of stuff like

he said he is a superior experiment he's doing

a lot of stuff that Peter never considered before

and then it just kind of poked it not to poke

holes in you know Peter's decades -long career

right it's just that why didn't he think of such

things before you know well it's because of they

they they're two different characters obviously

you know that I know that everybody who's listening

to this should know that auto Octavius and Peter

Parker are two very different characters. The

thing about Peter Parker's Spider -Man is that

he feels that he wants to do it on his own, get

it done. And plus, the other thing is, Peter

Parker's Spider -Man, everybody in their right

-hand man didn't like him because J. Jonah was,

you know, basically, you know... He's basically

Jonah's basically jealous of spider -man. There's

Exactly. Well the thing with J Jonah Jameson

is is that he's always yeah, he might be jealous

of spider -man But he's always been up to what

happened in at the end of amazing going into

superior That you know, he'd always been against

Spidey and now he's all for Spidey and blah blah

blah. So that's where Peter Parker Spidey and

Otto Spidey kind of differ where Auto is to the

point where everybody loves Spider -Man now.

Nobody really hates outside of villains, but

like, the populace of New York and the Marvel

universe, everybody loves him. And he has that

kind of no -nonsense, you know, kind of thing

where he has that approach of, this doesn't need

my attention, this does, this does, this doesn't,

you know, oh, the police can handle that, blah,

blah, blah. Peter would never do that because

Peter, and I think that's the other thing is,

Even though it's in amazing 700 Peter got auto

to realize the great power great responsibility

thing with having him relive uncle Ben's death

Mm -hmm auto Got it, and he understood it, but

he's gonna put his own spin on it because that

wasn't his uncle That wasn't his father figure.

You know what I mean? It's just one of those

things where auto isn't gonna be the spider -man

that Peter wanted him to be yeah No, no, I get

that. It's just Like you said that and then you

see when he swings off the one thing they kind

of it bugged me a little bit where you know He

switches his lenders look for radio waves, and

he starts looking for massacres additional hostages.

It's just going It almost suggests that he's

run into a massacre more than the one time before

but he's only run into massacre the one time

before so You know anyway, but he uses his updated

upgraded gear upgraded his his new tech to like

find the new hostages in a mocha cola warehouse

which is part of his insidious plan to embarrass

and defile mocha cola like it's it's just like

the whole plot it just doesn't make sense why

is he going out there like this to screw with

the mocha cola people but you know he you know

peter's like hurry it up auto gotta save lives

so you know auto freeze them he goes to Grand

Central Station and for okay if the cover to

the last issue of Superior Spider -Man piss you

off how he's dressed here like he's got that

stupid high collar thing that it's like zipped

up right to his nose and he pulls open his shirt

and he's got the mocha cola sweater on with the

guns and he's just like everybody dies now oh

god you've seen Maverick right Like the Bruce

Willis or no 1994 Mel Gibson sorry brain fart

You've seen that. Oh, yeah many times this this

scene with him with the with the westernized

version of a zipped up Mask. Yeah reminds me

of the bank scene in Maverick where Mel Gibson

and Danny Glover okay but yeah but that like

this image here with him in his little get up

in the guns and everybody dies that didn't bother

like for me a cover has to like i have to look

at a covering oh this is interesting i want to

open this book and read it and that's why with

uh issue four i didn't i didn't care because

it makes it i'm not saying spider -man always

has to look you know in the brightest of lights

as far as spotlighting him on the cover but that

cover just that cover just pissed because it

made it look like ooh Spidey's afraid of of massacre

because it's just it's just his hands and then

it's mass uh anyway that's like no no we're cool

bro we're cool but yeah and then you go to the

next page it's like out of the way move it why

won't you and it's just you know all heard kind

of from the outside and the inside You know massacres

got the doors all wired with explosives and I

Don't buy men promise me you deal with this.

Yeah blazes. Are you yeah, but I mean the whole

idea that it's one guy I know comics and leap

of logic and you know suspension of disbelief

But it's Grand Central fucking station. Pardon

my French How the hell did massacre get all the

doors wired with explosives? Yeah, that's you

know strange so You know, you go on and then

he's he's killing cops and wrecking dudes and

auto crawls in through some of the upper windows

and You know, he rescues the kid massacre tries

to kill spider -man and I like how he notes how

spidey didn't show up in his uh variant batman

costume like how they were doing for a while

there with uh Him working at horizon labs and

he's building all these different spider suits

like the bulletproof costume. Yeah and then Otto's

just like, okay, I'm taking this dude down. So

he leaps and he takes him out. Oh, he's like,

I'm gonna kill my hostages. No, you're not rescued

him already. He's like, I just kind of the look

where massacre is like, you know, clicking, clicking,

clicking on his remote. And he's just got this

what the deuce look on his face. And then you

see some that almost is I don't think it's ever

happened before like Spider -Man picks the gun

up. Pulls the trigger spider spider -man doesn't

use guns Yeah, I mean we've like I've never seen

granted I just started reading Spidey comics

at the end of a SM's run, but In every form of

media, I have never seen, whether it's cartoons,

whether it's the movies, whatever, I've never

seen Spider -Man use a gun. However, I don't

think he has, I don't know, I could be wrong,

and you can correct me here, his aversion to

guns I don't think is as strong as... batman's

only like batman will net like the only time

i've ever seen batman use a gun was in batman

beyond rebirth when bruce was too old to at like

that was his absolute last resort yeah you know

so but it's one of those things where spiked

to me personally spidey's no gun rule has never

like to me and again i haven't read all seven

hundred issues of asm i haven't read all the

other books so I'm just going off of what I know

from like cartoons and movies and and what I'm

currently reading here in the books where it's

like It's not so clearly defined and because

this is technically a new spider -man He's going

to do different things. He's going to like he's

going to do stuff that Peter would have never

done because Peter No pun intended here couldn't

pull the trigger and get the job done. Well,

yeah and Mean Peters. No, I mean certainly he's

used laser cannons and various other villainous

weapons before and it's even a Doc like doc off

like Otto has never really used guns He's used

like giant mechanical death machines and you

know uber death traps So it was just kind of

like spider -man doesn't shoot people. He punches

them repeatedly in the head But yeah, and then

you see us You know massacre crawling for his

other gun and you just like oh god That looks

like it hurts where spider -man just brings the

boot down on his hand yeah, and he's holding

the gun there and Peter's arguing with him and

You know is he does like the whole will of the

people think what do you want me to do and some

crusty old dude is kill him Yeah, just just a

look at that old dude's face. He's just like

He's just like ready to kill it All of a sudden

because of the getting shot and everything massacred

because the whole idea his origin was he was

caught in an explosion that killed his wife and

damaged his brain in a way that you know, he

can't you know distinguish human of the value

right from wrong and he doesn't he can't appreciate

the value of a human life and All of a sudden

he's like, oh my god, he's scared. He's crying

and you can feel something and ghost Peters all

like Auto you can work with this we can kill

him. There's always hope and the spider -man

is like, yeah simple solution pulls the trigger

Yeah, and you know it goes to the whole crowd

reaction Jonah, you know spider -man's a hero

proud example. Yeah, it's proud example of people

just picking up a gun and you know to ending

a life You know the good political stance there

Mary Jameson and you know it goes back to like

the completely useless character of this uh president

and you see like this this was kind of awesome

the way it was an awesome ending but for a completely

useless kind of story almost is you know spider

-man sending his spider bots in they're crawling

all over the place and he's like i know what

you did i know where you live you know and that

whole thing that's my power that's my responsibility

to watch over and judge you all it was kind of

creepy the way he did that you know it's it was

very creepy the way he did that well yeah but

it's like i said the whole idea of like massacre

breaks out he goes to what is essentially a burger

king And he said it's like I don't like Pepsi.

I would like a coca -cola. We don't have coca

-cola. We're owned by Pepsi Okay, everybody dies

and and then all of a sudden like are you telling

me be this guy? His head is so warped that he's

going to walk in kill all these people and then

engage in some weird you know propaganda con

campaign or something against the coca -cola

company because It made no sense like his whole

motivation for this and again comics everybody,

but nothing makes sense sometimes exactly overall

the story i like certain parts of the story i

didn't care for other parts i love the art i

love what what they're doing with superior spiderman

like i said the whole image of of the of the

program activating in his brain or in his eyes

i like that image i like even though i think

it's weird as hell seeing ghost spidey swing

along with him i do like that kind of compare

and contrast between the two um i don't know

any any final thoughts before we move on to issue

six Well, we're not gonna see Massacre again,

and as much as I like the idea of the character,

not all that sad to see him go. Exactly. So we're

gonna move on. Introduction to super -heroing

isn't exactly a high school elective. Alright,

ladies and gentlemen, we are back, and before

we get to the actual issue number six, after

that was released, apparently in Marvel there's

this whole thing of Age of Ultron tie -ins. Yeah,

it's... Some that Brian Michael Bendis started

in the early issues of the last volume of Avengers,

where they get sucked into this future where

Ultrons come and just wreck the planet. He's

finally getting around to you know using this

isn't just like an alternate future and hey,

we're the Avengers It's it's a major thing that's

going on in Marvel right now. There's two issue

sixes There's the regular, you know keeping the

story going and then there's this tie -in issue

with basically, you know, it's during the crossover

auto has to Sneak into Ultron's headquarters

and plant some devices that are gonna you know,

basically launch a massive EMP trying to take

out Ultron and It's just how does, you know,

Otto deal with this whole, you know, the whole

situation sort of thing. And I think a lot of

the Marvel comics are just doing these one shot

tie ins. I mean, ultimately, if you really want

to get the whole broad scope of the story, you'd

want to look at these. And if you do like amazing

experiment, the characterization of Otto and

him dealing with, you know, the whole situation

of Ultron taking over the world is something

I would recommend looking out if you want to

get. You know kind of Otto's take on the whole

thing. I Mean, I did read it. I did like it I

actually had to read it two or three different

times to actually like I just I couldn't I Couldn't

follow the story that well like I I get it now

after reading it a couple of times But and I

like seeing Auto Spidey, you know kind of being

spider -man the Avenger like I like seeing that

with him being with the team and I like Obviously

that's gonna play into the last issue after this

You know the number seven issue which we'll talk

about here in a little bit, but like I just if

I'm The only the only example I can think of

is When I started comics, it's all Steve Megatron's

fault bastard The Joker was coming back and like

I was okay DC yay, you know, the Joker was coming

back I started with Batman 13 and then I noticed

in Batman 13 All the other like Nightwing and

Batgirl and whatever else and I started reading

those So like for me if there is going to be

a huge event have to start at the beginning of

the event and this to me the 6au it was like

hey jump in like right in the middle of it and

I I I like the art I just I had a hard time following

the story the covers amazing I love the cover

oh yeah no it's a red digital cover yeah looks

awesome Just they had the whole glow and I mean

a lot of the mark the a age of Ultron Titans

have that sort of trade dress Yeah, and I think

the reason why I couldn't get into the writing

is even though I read Christos gauges Stuff in

the Iron Man 3 prequels or preludes leading up

to the new movie. Yeah, I Because I'm used to

slot style from reading 698 through you know

currently superior spot like The style was too

different for me. It's kind of like, if you read

Batgirl 16, which was written by Gail Simone,

and then the next issue is Batgirl 17, when at

the time she had been, quote unquote, fired,

and it was Ray Fawkes, or Fawkes, or F -A -W

-K -E, or however you say his name. It was him,

like, from 16 to 17 in Batgirl. Batgirl 17 I

did not care for whatsoever because it was such

a different writing scale and a different a different

writers Style and that's why with this Age of

Ultron tie -in I just I just couldn't get into

it I'm sure it's a great story for someone who

can get into it But because I was so used to

the other style in the main line. Yeah, I just

I don't know So let's let's talk about the actual

number six which came up before the age of Ultron

thing I love this cover. Yeah Go the holy other

tagging Yeah, which is probably an old -school

cover. It's probably says menace behind screwball

and Jester who Jester's an old -school daredevil

villain who just as currently uses like wacky

gags and like, you know exploding yo -yos and

such to In the course of his crimes and screwball

is a character that I believe Dan slot created

her who she's this Kind of you know how jackass

with the whole You know real camera thing and

hey look what I'm doing She's this parkour artist

who's like really athletic and can give spider

-man a run for his money You know leaping around

buildings and everything. She's just cracking

wise the whole time She's kind of out to like

make a name for herself and you know wants to

be famous and she's gonna be famous for live

casting her crimes and her you know public vandalism

and all that so I The cover hooked me right away.

I really did love the cover by Humberto Ramos,

who's quickly in the last few years with all

his work on Spider -Man has become one of my

favorite Spidey artists. Like you look at it

now and it's back in the day when he first started,

I believe he started at Image Comics doing a

lot of stuff. He had a very rough sort of style.

And it hasn't and it's softened someone and I

wouldn't say it's softened but he's refined his

skills You know, he still gets like one of his

trademarks is his women all tend to have these

big googly anime eyes Which I kind of dig on

because you know it it separates all the characters

because a lot of artists You know tend to draw

You know the sex is the same, you know, like

you look at like guys like Ron Lim You know just

quick aside like he way he draws guys. They all

have this very square head and square jaw and

And the women all have this very you know So

like every a lot of artists will like I said

that just tend to draw Men the same and women

the same at least you know in the face visually

never mind the bodies so But you know they open

the book with a bunch of what Twitter feeds about

you know screwball and jester is like you know

live jexting in 30 seconds from City Hall. And

there's Jameson bitching about the raft, which

is this superhuman prison off the coast of New

York. And he's like, blah, blah, blah. I'm the

mayor, blah, blah, blah. I'm doing what's best

for this city. And then you see Nora Winters

and, well, the Jimmy Olsen of Marvel in Phil

Yurick, who's the nephew of Ben Yurick, who's

I like that! He's become the Jimmy Olsen. He's

become the anti -Peter. When Phil was introduced

in the 90s, he was the good Green Goblin in the

short -lived series that Marvel put out where

he discovered a new enhanced Goblin suit that

Norman Osborn created. He fell into some chemicals

and he could use the suit. Then the suit got

messed up and he couldn't have his powers anymore.

and since then they've kind of built him up to

be like he's got because of the chemicals the

goblin juice it's like anyone who takes this

stuff you know eventually goes nutso and he eventually

because Nora starts looking into this goblin

cult that Norman Osborn had created for himself

and he breaks into one of Nora Osborn's own stashes

at the same time the original Hobgoblin came

back And then he kills that guy and he takes

over as the hobgoblin he's working as an enforcer

for the kingpin and he starts doing what Peter

did and selling videos and photos of spider -man

to the new daily bugle since it's been rebuilt

and trying to worm his way into Nora's good graces

and It's kind of he's a dark reflection of Peter.

He's doing with great power comes great fun basically,

but he's also psychotic at the same time so That's

that's funny and then yeah, so you get these

you know these two jesters They just decide to

come in and basically prank Jameson. Yeah It's

like put in the face pants him our work is done

away And then everyone's and their friends You

know or just laughing their asses off and you

know, Nora's like did you get any pictures? No.

Oh who cares? It was worth it and then you know,

ah Peter's watching the video at her right or

Otto's watching the video at horizon and everyone's

like that is the creepiest laugh ever and I love

how he's like, oh Jameson that was priceless.

I think I'll watch it on a loop Yeah Like that

I love his I love the way he I love the way Otto

interacts with with Jameson Yeah, as Peter Otto's

all kind of like screw you but as spider -man,

you know, he's all like Ox Spidey is it it's

almost as if I know this isn't it but it it's

almost as if it's um the symbiote It's kind of

like having the symbiote without actually having

it if you know what I mean? Because aux personality

is so like yes Peter Parker would you know throw

you know? Quiet mom and dad are talking you know

you know he would he would throw stuff around

and he would throw quips, but like this Having

Otto as Spidey is more so like the dark humor

the the insulting humor where He can insult Jameson

and make Jameson laugh all at the same time,

you know Yeah, I know it gets that it's just

It's kind of refreshing to see Otto, you know

relaxing and watching a little YouTube, you know

He's not always an evil prick But yes speaking

about his crack wise like, you know, he gets

the summons from mere Jameson on the spider phone

I mean the bat phone. I mean You know it The

way, because you talk about how Otto interacts

with Jameson, he's very, well, of course, Mr.

Mayor, it's kind of like, you know, of course,

Commissioner Gordon, you know, he kind of get

that. And I love the one zinger he brought in

where it's like, we have another breach freeze.

Excellent reflexes, guys. About 40 minutes late.

Wouldn't you say? Idiots. Yeah, because I mean,

it's not that funny. It's just the Spider -Man

just like, yeah, so slow. Yeah, it's it's it's

very cool And I love how Jameson's secretary

Gloria Grant is a character that was originally

introduced in the 70s And of course she had like

a female afro back then because it was a 70s

And that's how black people had their hair, but

that's neither here nor there Jameson comes in

he's all like well my pals here, and she's like

your pal And the way Ramos draws her face, she's

like, bullshit. I know, it's so awesome. And

he's like, no, of course, you may be wondering,

you want me to apprehend Strobel and Jester?

Yes. Certainly not worth my time. And all of

a sudden, they humiliated me at the office, in

public. They pulled down my pants. Oh my god,

it's so great. Because you know he wants to say

that. It's like, they passed me in public. This

will not stand. Yeah. And then Spider -Man, you

know, Otto might have been, oh, what about the

pie to the face? And James says, well, it was

delicious. But yeah. And then we got the Avengers

scene. Since when has Wolverine been in Avengers?

He's been in Avengers since post -Avengers dissembled

when Cap reformed the Avengers as the new Avengers.

in the original stock stark tower and okay you

know what what's cool and i know this is uh i'm

quoting a review of this issue that i read online

when since when is wolverine the voice of reason

he know he's like because i like that he's like

who here doesn't have blood in their hands we've

all done our fair share of avenging blah blah

blah and then he's then he sticks the knife and

he's like and we're gonna hold him to a different

standard now Yeah, which I thought was really

cool. I mean like the characterization Wolverine

because he knows what it's like to be labeled

You know something that he isn't Right exactly,

and I think that's kind of the whole point of

this issue. Honestly is that? We'll get to this

in the next panel when we see Penelope I'm sorry.

That's what I'm calling her for the rest of time.

We ever see her in these issues When we get to

her scene You know, all the kids are like, oh,

where are the other 20 clowns? And that's the

whole bullying thing. That's just... Yeah. That's

the point of this issue. It's their stance on

bullying. And we see that Otto was bullied as

a kid. So I like... That's what I like about

this issue. The two jesters, they're okay. I

see why they're there. I like... I actually prefer

them over massacre. Well because they're actually

good characters Well, they're good characters,

but it's more so it's not just that standard.

Oh, hey, let's have a mass murdering psychopath

Yeah, it's the whole thing of hey, let's have

interest like let's put autos what let's put

auto in a situation where where it's so Foreign

to him to have to deal with yeah yet You know,

something like this would be on Peter's radar

every day of the week. Well, I wouldn't necessarily

say every day. Peter always to me was, oh yay,

another bank robbery. You know, that's to me

is what Peter, you know, kind of was. You know,

that whole thing. You know where he swings and

he's I love the commenters like unlike Parker

I can maintain my life as spider -man and keep

my appointments or like we get it Otto You're

better than he is. Let's move on The one thing

I don't like about in this issue is that part

of that panel and we'll see that in I don't like

the way that Spidey is drawn in that because

it makes it look like he has webbed feet Oh,

yeah, just where he's swinging in and all that

it it looks Freaky as all hell. It looks weird

Well, yeah, cuz you look well his foot cuz they

all of a sudden see he's got like claws for toes

or something Yeah, it just it looks too damn

strange. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. You know, we

see Anna Pull up your Penelope. However, you

want to call her? Yeah, you know Anna pulls up

in her you know in her smart car and she just

walks away and she doesn't really pay those guys

any minds and just the absolutely evil pissed

off look on auto's face and that last panel it's

like oh someone's gonna get a whooping yeah and

then you go in and all of a sudden it's like

spider -man's cruising the internet or cyberspace

because that's like his like auto's whole dreamscape

whatever you want to call it and then you see

him like flashback to this memory of being bullied

as a kid and You see kind of like the dark origin

of doctor octopus. I'll make you pay for that

I'll find a way to make you all pay So yeah bullying

bullying creates superheroes people. Let's not

do that And even spider for some reason Peter

can't recognize that you know Otto's getting

bullied and he's like Are you not because I guess

he knew he was getting sucked into the recollection.

So he didn't see what was going on outside Yeah,

I do like how they're doing that though I I know

what what slot and in the artists that are gonna

be doing the you know issues eight nine like

I I see that there I see that Dan slot in his

writing is building up to the fact of somehow

The two halves of the brain the awk half and

and the and the Parker half are gonna have some

sort of mental Duel or something like I can see

that happening because he even goes Peter says

oh, I'm getting sucked. Oh I'm getting sucked

into your brain and blah blah blah. I'm seeing

this I'm seeing so I like how that's progressing

I just hope that they don't end up I've said

this before I Like this new direction of spider

-man I like seeing Someone completely different

from Peter Parker that was actually one of it

makes sense to me that one of his villains is

now Is now spider really that makes a hell of

a lot of sense to me. It interests me I hope

to God with whatever slot is doing You know going

up to the issue 9 and 10 and whatever else. I

hope that they don't find a way to switch it

back I Just I don't want it to I want it. I want

this to last longer because I can I can see the

end result if if everybody finds out and you

know somehow someone whether it's kirk connors

or whoever finds a way to switch them back we're

just going to be back to hey it's peter parker

is spidey again you know and I I swear if that

happens I'll stop getting the book because I

am really loving this whole new take Well, yeah,

it can't last forever, but we'll see what happens

when we cross that bridge when we come to it.

The next couple of panels where Otto's like,

I could do something about that, I will thrash

those ruffians and teach them a lesson. And Anna's

like, let it go, dude, I am. She's being the

bigger person, which... Right, and I'm not saying

that didn't just like she's literally being the

bigger person. She's not really given into the

bully I'm just saying but yeah, the the whole

it yeah, I love that, you know the characterization

of Anna there and then she's like come along

you got a Pre what do you call it? Apologize

to dr. Schnauz. I mean dr. Lamaze You know and

I love the fact that it's like... Hello? Oh,

you're breaking up, dude. The one speech bubble

in the last panel is like, that's exactly what

I'm going to do. I'm here to apologize. And Otto's

like, in his head is like, oh, what fresh hell

is this? I've always loved that. I love that

phrase. What fresh hell is this? Yeah. because

you see him like he's just roiling in on the

inside. He's just like. And I love the idea is

like, I'm beginning to understand what Parker

was all about. He beat up people to take out

his frustrations on them, which, you know, certainly

plays into it. And then you go on to screwball

and jester up the shenanigans again. They're

caught by one of the spider cams. And you find

out that the whole idea of them pranking Jameson

was. Basically there it was thievery. It was

electronic thievery You know, they're using their

high tech goggles to steal credit card information

from all the people there Yeah So it's You know,

it's You know, it's the distraction, you know,

the the trick is over here while the distractions

over there so I mean, it's actually kind of ingenious

in a way because You know, she's getting her

jester and screwball are getting the Getting

their videos and getting their hits online and

they're getting paid. So Yeah, you know it hey

crime does pay It might not so it might not pay

well, but it does it it might not pay for long

considering during the battle between the jesters

and Superior Spidey he He's a little too vicious.

Yeah He's a little too vicious, because you'd

think that these are technically juvenile delinquents,

is what they are. Yeah. Well, what's kind of

creepy is screwballs about Peter's age and Jester's,

well, probably a few years older. You know right,

but the way that their antics are it's it's more

Think of Jack 40 year old body eight year old

brain That's you know that's one of those things

where yes, they may be Peter's age or a little

bit older But they're acting like teenagers Yeah,

no I get that it's just But anyway, I mean That's

really neither here nor there the the next scene

kind of sets up. You know was probably one of

the first Mistakes that Otto is making in that

he blows off this apology You know he's trying

to he's supposed to apologize to dr. Lamaze and

you know what your thesis is gonna be and Anna's

you know defending him and then he just gets

he gets the alert on his spider app and he just

kind of walks off is like sorry gotta go bye

and then Oh, sure. He's thinking. Oh, sure. I'll

make it up to Anna later and You can see that

Otto is kind of got feelings for her which You

know is creepy. It's creepy and that's I still

think it's kind of cool the idea that You know

Otto has met somebody that he kind of respects.

So You know at least in and not just in terms

of her being smart just you know her attitude

and all that He's like Oliver. I'll apologize

to her later In the meantime, you just see that

evil smile on his face as he's pulling the mask

down. I do have time for one more thing. And

I do not like that smile. Yeah. I can see why

he killed Massacre. I get that in issue five.

but I can't see why you would kill these essentially

harmless you know all of their antics yes they

stole something but all of their actual antics

were harm I mean you know you know pantsing people

and throwing water balloons or whatever you know

eyes and all that yeah it's yeah I mean that

they didn't really hurt anybody and it is only

money but yeah already autos kind of you know

Tightened up and yeah, he's a little you know,

the springs a little too tight at this point

At least today and I love that scene there sitting

there like who are we gonna, you know prank next

and you know You know, we got to keep her cut

our fans happy. It's like, okay How about that

guy too old her too ethnic it'll look all racist

II And then they're like we got to give it to

somebody who's really got it coming to inspire

man shows up Hold it right there. You're under

arrest. And they're just like, perfect. And then

they start live casting. I do not advocate violence

against women in any way, shape, or form. And

you see that one punch though, he just gives

her that one little right hook right to the chest.

And she's like, you totally punched me in the

boobs. And he's like, I oh it's I love Otto's

dialogue on spider -man. It is so Adam West Batman.

He's like I I assure you I had no intention of

and all of a sudden he gets shot right in the

arachnids Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, I mean I enjoyed

Issue six way more than issue five at the same

time. There are still there's still problems

I have with issue six. Yeah, it's like Enjoy

it for the fact that it's a message against like

don't you know? You know it's it's the whole

you know stop bullying now You know stop bullying

speak up now. Whatever else and I like it for

that I like it for all the different puns and

stuff in the way like you said the way Auto talks

is Spidey. I like that, but I Do say that issue

six. I didn't enjoy it more than issue five.

Oh, yeah final thoughts Sorry, you're going to

want to pause it there. My phone just went off.

I think we'll have to take a step back because

it probably caught that on the mic. No, it didn't.

Just give your final thought. Final thoughts.

Well, one thing I want to mention is that where

Spider -Man gets the shot in the nuts and they

do that kind of thing where his mask, like his

lenses pop. Just to do, I love that because he

gets it right there. Just the line of a hit to

the crotch really it's the internet no points

for subtlety And then they they give them like

the sticky paint balloons and you know He gets

ripped off and just you see the aftermath of

what Otto did to the bullies which is like, okay,

dude wreck the car not the people and Anna's

all like oh shit And then all of a sudden Otto

does his best Wolverine You know impression and

when you spoke about the art before like that

one shot where he's jumping down over top and

before he starts thrashing them with his spider

claws He looks very like alien like that is that

is not the anatomy of a human being No, it's

very spider -like, you know, just claws and legs

and all gangly and you know, he basically He

wrecks the jester. Yeah, and that's Like, I love

the ending of this thing, like, you know, Ghostbeard's

like, what the fuck have you done? Yeah. And,

you know, the gesture's all wrecked, screwball's

not much better, and it's setting up the next

issue with where the Avengers are now gonna step

in and, like, Spidey, gotta talk. Yeah. So let's

get to that after this. I'm starting to think

Jameson's wrong about you, Spidey. Spread the

word, Chief. And finally up today we're going

to be covering the superior spider -man issue

number seven Warning there could be spoilers

here because we are recording this it won't be

released Until that way after issue seven has

been Released released, but the podcast will

have been released after that, but we are recording

it One day after the issue it stands. Yeah the

cover the only thing I hate is Spidey looks like

a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle with that webbed

foot No, I don't I don't know I don't understand

your obsession with his feet Mike, but I don't

have an obsession with it. Just it looks it looks

weird to me I've never seen spider -man have

a webbed foot before That it just it looks weird

to me. Oh, I love the cover because it's basically

as you said, it's Avengers versus spider -man

and it's Cap Wolverine Thor Widow and the other

chick spider -woman spider. Oh, wow. Well, that's

weird But I like I like the cover I think it's

really interesting No, it's very I guess you

could almost say cinematic in a way like it's

kind of reminiscent of like the Avengers poster

where they're all gathered together and all that.

Right. I mean, and this isn't the whole roster

of the Avengers. It's just the characters that,

you know, they happen to they happen to be there

in Avengers Tower that day where Cap's like,

hey, Spider -Man's kind of being a dick. Yeah.

And Wolverine's well, who hasn't been a dick?

I mean, that's basically what boils down to Spider

-Man. Wolverine's just kind of like give him

some slack. We'll see what happens. You know,

let's not jump the gun here, you know, which

leads into this issue and the Again, I love the

fact that with slot writing this he's going back

to some of the stuff that he created in amazing

Spider -Man when he when they rebooted Spidey

and the idea that there was this guy named Martin

Lee who was like this split personality super

villain called Mr. Negative just Look him up

on the wiki people. It's a hell of a lot easier

than me explaining it and they bring back this

character The cardiac who's like this vigilante

doctor who's like a cyborg and he's got this

Beta reactor in his chest that you know that

gives him these superpowers or this energy power

that powers him and his weapon and he's really

he's kind of like a Superheroic version of Bruce

Wayne's dad and that he was like this rich doctor

He lost his wife and we dedicated his life to

you know, healing people and stopping crime and

you see he's got he's taking over one of martin

lee's homeless shelters and he's used it as like

a secret hospital for Not necessarily quasi illegal

treatments. Just he's it's like a free clinic

for absolutely everything and he's using like

suited like like possibly unpatented technology

to for skin grafts and people with massive brain

damage and tumors and all that and then this

is all before the recap i know that's what shocked

me i was like wait what yeah it's like a real

comic book joking joking but yeah no you get

you get the recap you know it's uh is like spider

-man apprehended them brutally well if by brutally

you mean he chopped them into swiss cheese Because

let's face it. There were a lot more holes in

the jester and screwball than there were when

they woke up that morning Yeah And then they

are the Avengers, you know, blah blah blah. We're

gonna question his behavior and take him in and

Yeah, and some and finally it invest step four

when you get into the actual story a step four

and the whole Peter coming back and You find

out when Otto's asleep Peter can control the

body somewhat Yeah Inefficiently, but yes that

and the fact that for some reason he makes the

comment is like, oh great So I can control my

hand but I can't access the speech center of

my brain Yeah And then I love this but I want

the spider app. I just love that. I love that

image on the phone I think that's awesome. It

does look cool. I mean the idea that again going

back like we're talking about in the last couple

of issues here is how auto is doing stuff that

like It's not that Peter's an idiot or ignorant.

It's just why it's just a different approach

Well, yeah, but why you know, you're certainly

smart enough to have thought of this. Why haven't

you? You know Peter so it it's just the way it

is, you know, and then he gets the alert and

I love the thing. It's like one of parkers. I

mean my foes is on the loose again and up to

no good And then it's I love the splash page

where it's you know How did the thing it's like

yeah, and what are a few hours of sleep compared

to the awe -inspiring exploits of the superior?

Spider -man and it goes here's like you're such

a dork Yeah, and It's yeah, it's just I love

that we're spears. Just like you're an idiot

It's like you know a little self promotion might

have done wonders for your Your ego there too

Peter. I'm just saying Yeah, but then he goes

he sees the I love how they name everything you

know with the raft and then you got the boneyard

which is basically the storehouse for all the

item sees from like superhuman related events

and crimes and Cardiacs there to build and you

know steal something and I knew it was going

to be something Involved with Dr. Octopus when

he asked where is the lot from the US atomic

research center? right because that's the place

where Otto was working, you know way back in

the day when the explosion happened and you know,

he got his more quote -unquote superpowers and

I love Spidey like Otto just shows up. I'm spider

-man. I'm an Avenger. I'm commandeering your

services Yeah And the cops are all like cuz Spidey's

all hardcore and at this point I don't think

we know whether the cops are in green to follow

Spidey's lead because you know Mayor Jameson's

his pal and he's got this hardcore attitude or

they all saw what happened to screwball and Chester

So I think that he's like get a perimeter and

then Peter's even like me. I would have just

rushed in there by now Right yeah, and then you

know he's attacking cardiac And I love the lines

like why do we feel like I'll stumble across

the arc of the Covenant before I find crate one

one three And I love how Ramos kind of draws

the the the warehouse does kind of look like

the warehouse from Raiders Which I thought was

kind of cool. Yeah, that's a nice homage And

then you see him, he's basically, Otto's like,

okay, I'm giving you a count of three to give

up before things get unpleasant. What I, I don't

like that. Like, okay, we saw last issue in issue

six where Peter got flung through his, through

Otto's memories of being bullied as a child.

Yeah. I think it's been since issue three, but

we haven't seen Otto like. Like with yes, right

with massacre and now with with Cardiac why is

an auto accessing Peter's memories to learn about

like like okay? I don't get me wrong. I love

autos approach. I love how he's doing things

differently granted I don't agree with spider

-man killing people you know, but it's one of

those things where Yes autos being smart. Yes

Auto did all this stuff before he just ran into

the warehouse But why when he's in the warehouse

does he not access Peter's memories to learn?

and figure out that okay, cardiac is doing something

bad. He's breaking and entering and he's gonna

steal something, but he's probably doing it for

a reason. He's not a green goblin. He's not a

hobgoblin. He's not a kingpin. As you said earlier,

he's a vigilante doctor, but he's doing it for

a good reason. He's not just doing it. It's not

a get rich quick scheme for this guy. So I don't

understand and I don't like the fact that they've

stopped basically saying that... auto can access

peter's memories well he probably just decided

not to i mean but the only thing like with where

peter previously interacted with cardiac at least

what i read i don't think he knows that he's

like this doctor he just knows him as this nutbar

vigilante so he's basically somewhere between

you know spider -man and the punisher Cardiac

is in front of the sink, but no I think you think

this issue Peter says stop doc You don't know

you know you don't know his story. You don't

know you know and that's what I'm talking about

Maybe Peter knows something like maybe Peter

as Peter Think of Maybe Peter interacted with

cardiac in their civilian IDs I don't know for

sure if that has ever happened so right you know

it's possible and like I said autos just you

know after the whole screwball thing maybe he's

just kind of like you know what screw it I'm

gonna do it this way so unless it's like something

major he may not look at Peter's memories but

the whole idea like the very you know they're

fighting there and he's given the one two three

and you see another step forward in Peter resurfacing

where you know he he's screaming at Otto is like

stop right there and then Otto's like who said

that where are you Wait, you can hear me testing

testing thing on yeah, I was like, oh wow, that's

And a pretty crucial point in the fight because

cardiac grabs his staff and he's like, yeah Bazinga

Yeah, and then I did like that. I thought that

was pretty cool Yeah, and then I mean the fight

continues and he's flipping around he's like

it's uh I forgot how annoying that spider sense

of yours can be and I was like, yeah, it's constant

source of irritation And then yeah, it's pretty

awesome. And then you know, it's like I'm an

Avenger. I'm in a hero I'm a trusted agent of

law and order and You know, then he gets smacked

around cardiac is like, ah Thank you. I was looking

for that and he you know runs away and yeah,

then he sees what Cardiac was stealing and he

just gets Right pissed off like and again how

they how Gerto Ramos draws the lenses where he's

like my neurolytic scanner one of my greatest

inventions and his it looks like them the I like

the I holes are just narrowing he's like oh you

son of a bitch yeah the only problem is spider

-man no matter who's in the suit no one can pull

the eye hole narrowing as good as Batman in DCA

you know and I'll give it up to the Dark Knight

not any better. It's just that's one of the things

you know I get you it's with spidey artists.

I love it when they play with the eye holes like

that Yeah, and then you know he's fighting and

again Peter kind of alters You know autos actions

in ways like he's about to straight pulp cardiac's

head Like there's no other ways of saying if

that punch connected Cardiac would be a couple

pounds short of grey matter. Yeah, exactly. And

then we get to Stark Tower. Yeah, priority one

alert, and they're all like, what's the origins

of this time? And it's all like, this is an intervention.

Experiments, explain. What's the meaning of this?

And I love the... No, it was Wolverine! This

ain't an emergency, bub. This is an interve -

Oh, god. I can so, like, okay. I've only seen

Wolverine, because I don't - Superior Spider

-Man is the only book I read in Marvel. Yeah.

So, obviously, I've only seen Wolverine here.

I can so hear Steve Bloom saying that line. Yeah.

And it's almost kind of funny hearing Wolverine

saying it's an intervention considering this

guy can polish off, like, three kegs by himself.

He's Canadian and we can drink a lot of beer

But and I mean one thing I want to notice about

the art is how in a lot of the Avengers comics

and then you see in this issue how they're drawing

cap and more of a movie Movie eyes costume, you

know, it's very similar to what Chris Evans wore

in the movie So and you know, it's caps like

no you explain to us what the hell's going on,

you know You've beaten all these villains within

an inch of their lives in massacre, dead by your

hand. Got the footage from the Boneyard. You're

about to apply lethal force to him. And I love

how Thor just kind of steps in. These are not

the actions of my ally, the good man I knew.

And then Piers like testify Thor. And I'm just

like, oh, God. And he's like, I don't have to

stand here and take this. And Caps like, actually,

you do. You know, if you want to be on the team.

Hold on a second. I just... Sorry. Ever since

I watched Super Hero Squad's show, I cannot take

Thor seriously. At all. It's barely tis hammer

time. But, continue. But yeah, no, just the whole

thing where you see... If he goes, Peter's like,

yes, there's Mightiest Heroes for the win. Finally,

someone's noticed. I thought you were all taking

stupid pills. Yeah. And then he's trying to walk

out and they're like, uh you think we're just

gonna let you leave and caps like, you know,

you're getting checked out head to toe and here's

like, yes, game over and he's like, again, he

hears Peter and it's like, I don't have time

for this and caps like this isn't a request and

he actually lays hands on Captain America and

and I love that whole the the bottom four panels

or any of Wolverine pops his claws and it's it's

you can hear the gun clicks and the clip you

know it's like an action movie where you hear

the clicks of the guns and the clips of bullets

getting put in and everything and just that last

image is like oh there's gonna be a show Yeah,

like I am so stoked for issues eight and nine

and whatever else happens because I'm just gonna

read the last panel because Oh what I wouldn't

give for some ghost popcorn right now Just whoever

thou art stand down or face the wrath of the

mighty Avengers What he said with me, I'm hoping

you put up a fight because I just love to carve

you a new one Whoever thou art now Well right

there because I mean they've been working at

this point spider -man has been an Avenger for

at least two or three years You know he's worked

with them all they all got to know Peter really

well. I don't know Since they've done because

he was Avenger before they did the whole Mephisto

deal with the devil Regroup I don't know if post

that they know who he is He's an Avenger, but

Yeah, I love that where Spider -Man's like, oh

boy, this is going to get good. And he's just

the way Oramos right draws Peter, you know, rubbing

his hands together. It's like a very supervillain

sort of thing where you can see he's just like,

this is going to get good. Yeah, it's it's so

awesome. Out of all four of the issues that we've

talked about today, I like this issue the best.

Oh yeah, this was definitely... I think number

seven is like... I love number one, two, and

three. Four, five... Four and five are... For

me, they're... Whatever. Six was good, but this

was really good. I wouldn't necessarily say this

is the beginning of the end, but... You know

six and seven is definitely You know, it's gonna

alter spidey's stance in the superhero community

of the marvel universe and You know, it's looks

like he's gonna get the das boot from the avengers

And I mean not you know, we'll certainly talk

about these issues down the road. But in like

I got the new uh previews catalog last week for

the you know, I ordered my comics from like what

I don't have in my normal pull list and there's

the marvel insert and you see uh You know down

the road this the way Otto has been acting and

how he's been thrashing these Super villains

within an inch of their lives is gonna come back

and haunt him You know it's gonna bite him and

the spider took us eventually so But yeah, I

can't wait for the next issue because it's gonna

be good Yeah, it's going to be so good, so good.

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we are back. We haven't really, in the future

there will be a grading scale here on the pull

bag. We haven't really implemented it yet. We

haven't really figured out what it's going to

be yet. But in the future we will do that. I

will say out of these four issues, number seven

is at the top of my list of being really, really

good. I would put number six after that and then

number five and then number six Age of Ultron.

The only reason why Age of Ultron comes last

is because I don't, I'm not reading that whole

storyline. It's kind of like, you know, coming

in the middle of a conversation, like, what are

you talking about? You know, I just, I don't

like it, but what I do like about Age of Ultron

is that cover is awesome. Oh yeah. No, it's a

Dexter, it's a Dexter, so I did the cover. and

the interior art and it's very it definitely

evokes more like stuff from manga than anything

like the kind of faux painted style and all that

yeah but that cover that digital cover where

it's all computer stuff oh yeah no it's brilliant

like a very you know one man against an evil

empire sort of idea i did dig that cover i mean

excuse me uh if i were to rate them like worst

to best in the four issues here. The worst would

be, you know, the massacre issue. Issue five.

Yeah, issue five. And then, you know, the age

of Ultron, which it's not a bad story. It's just

I didn't like it as much as, you know, the actual

six and seven. Yeah. Because, you know, it's

like this build up to, you know, Spider -Man

becoming, you know, dark Spidey or whatever you

want to call it. Then you know number seven obviously

was my fair like I said because the whole You

know, it's spider -man versus the Avengers. It's

the superior spider -man versus Earth's mightiest

heroes and oh There's gonna be a rumble Yes,

there is now. Do you want to give any predictions

as to what else? slot and his team are going

to be putting into this like after like issue

to like Do you think they would ever bring back

the symbiote? Can you imagine an auto version

of Venna? I don't know. Actually, like I said,

I got the new previews. Marvel has a whole separate

little catalog of all the comics that come out

for that month that the catalog's for. And in

there, there's a first issue. of the mini -series

called Superior Carnage. Oh boy. What happened

with Carnage is over in the other two Spider

-Man titles there's Venom where Flash Thompson

is now in control of the Venom symbiote. Oh wow.

And then the post Spider -Island Kane who's been

healed and now he looks like Peter Parker without

like the facial scars is in Houston Texas being

a superhero out there as Scarlet Spider. they

had this crossover where Venna or where carnage

was trying to take over and it gets to this point

where you know carnage is about to like basically

you know come to and you know start killing again

so Cain pops one of his spider pincers and basically

severs his brain stem so the body is alive but

Cletus Cassidy is you know brain dead and symbiotes

in there and in the promo paragraph for the superior

carnage is He's in this uh, you know, he's in

a prison for with super villains And there's

all these crazy super villains who are gonna

get together and do this very frankenstein s

experiment to heal the symbiote and get it active

again for some reason So and I believe slot I

I don't have it with me right now Like that I

can grab it and check but I believe slots involved

in that if he isn't outright writing it Yeah,

so they got that and then like I said, uh not

It's not spoilers, but I looked at the preview

issues for like, I think it's 11 and 12 of Superior

Spider -Man. And like I said, Otto's methods

are gonna come back and bite him in the ass.

All right, so that's gonna do it for this episode

of the pull bag Where can people follow you JT

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