Tangled Web, Maximal No More, and Other Visits Review

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host, EFJU, and Mike, and I'm joined with Steve

Megatron. Hello. Hello. And the over... worked...

Underpaid very sick exercising mofo peak on court

Michael. Hello. Hey, how's it going? Yes, you're

dying tonight. Aren't you? I am suffering mightily

Today we'll be covering four episodes from Beast

Wars season 2 So how have you been Steve? Pretty

good. Yeah and Michael I've been better And I'll

tell you why I Pretty much had a cold all week.

So this is gonna be another one of those I'm

sick episodes where I wine incessantly And on

top of that in order to be a supportive husband

I've been doing it the Jillian Michaels 30 day

shred with my wife you poor slob Yeah, so every

night I'm doing 20 minutes of cardio and weight

training With the the five -pound weights because

my wife took the one -pound weights and all we

have left are five and that sucks Yeah, so I

heard and and sadly My wife called me around,

you know about 20 minutes before the podcast

started and said Get up here and exercise with

me and I was like, oh shit. So I went upstairs

and did it and now I'm On the verge of blacking

out, but I'm I'm gonna troop through this and

see what happens. Okay, um You know, it's one

of those things where I Steve and I talked about

this on the latest episode of headshot which

I don't think is out yet, but We talked about

how many subscribers each show has and apparently

I believe Steve told me that tbu has 44 45 people

that are subscribed through feet. It's the feed

burner numbers that he had and We're not getting

a whole hell of a lot of feedback on this show.

I'm not exactly sure why. What the hell? Oh.

You just linked another image. Stop doing that.

I'm sorry. Anyways. Well, you know, I've been

advertising TBU on Twitter and Facebook and everything

else on the fan page on Facebook and everything

else. well our friend michael powers from the

lunchroom slash lunch table podcast uh... apparently

started watching these tours uh... and he sent

us an email or is it mean email and i thought

it to me too yeah well i i put it on the forums

i made a little listener questions uh... thread

on the forums and we're going to try to clear

up his confusion on the show the email states

So Beast Wars begins after G1 and then they fly

through a wormhole of sorts and end up on Earth

slightly after the events of the G1 opening,

when the Autobots and Decepticons are in Stasis

Lock or whatever the hell it's called. Correct?

I deduced at this because the arc shows up in

Season 2 along with them blatantly finding out

that they are on Earth past before the Autobots

and Decepticons roamed it in G1. If this is the

case, then how does the Transwarp explosion from

Episode 26, Other Voices Part 2 reach Cybertron

when it's inhabited by Maximals and Predacons?

Wouldn't it reach Cybertron when it's inhabited

by Autobots and Decepticons, since that's where

they are in the timeline? Seems like a pretty

big plot hole, especially since... Especially

since quote -unquote older Decepticons like Ravage

are used at the end of season 2. This also contradicts

the use of Starscream's spark in episode 21 possession

since it can't exist before Starscream died at

least not when it remembers events from G1 and

Black Arachneon knows the truth about how he

died. And how can Ravage even appear if he's

in Stasis Lock in the Ark? From what I've deduced,

unless Transformers is immune to the base loss

of time travel, is that the rough timeline is

as follows. Sometime after G1, Beast Wars Megatron

steals the Golden Disk. Optimus and crew are

sent after him. They fall through a portal, crash

land on primitive planet unknown location. The

Beast Wars begin. At the end of Season 1, a quote

-unquote moon is destroyed and the transwarp

shockwave is released. Season 2, they learn they

are on Earth Passed and must defend the future.

They also learn that the transwarp wave will

hit Cybertron and alert them to their location.

At this point, I get confused. Wouldn't the quote

-unquote Autobots come to check it out and not

the Maximals? What's going on here? Probably

more complicated picture than I need to paint,

but yeah, I'm confused by this as it doesn't

seem to be explained in the show very well if

at all. But since it's cartoon, I've decided

to write it off as the writers not paying attention

and just doing shit for the sake of the show.

Stop posting pictures, damn it! See I am trying

to concentrate on reading the man's email. I

didn't say you read the pictures. I know the

answer this question I answered it on the phone

yesterday. Yeah, I'll repeat. Please do Go ahead

Steve. Okay the the thing is with Starscream

is technically That's the future Starscream,

which has no effect on the past one. Mm -hmm.

Same thing with the ravage Starscream as you

would have known from G1, got his body back after

being blown to scrap by Galvatron and that's

how initially he became a ghost and died. He

traded on Unicron after getting his new body

and got blasted into space, floating forever

and from various UK fanfics. And also some canon

stuff, it states that Unicron punished him for

traitoring, so he made him float bodyless for

eternity and through space and time. As for Ravage,

when they had the great upgrade or downgrade,

whatever you prefer to call it, from Autobot

and Decepticon to Maximal and Predacon, he was

granted amnesty and upgraded and converted. That's

how he ended up there as for Why the transwarp

explosion did not reach the Autobot decepticons

on The past Cybertron it's because they used

tarantulas stasis pod which had a transwarp explosion

or a transwarp cell Attached to it when he actually

meant to leave the planets and primal Shanghai

the the pod which caused the explosion to create

a rift in time and space to send it to the future

instead. So you know that's what I was going

to say is that when the transwarp explosion happened

the whole point of transwarp is that it goes

through time and space. So the transwarp signature

is not going to Cybertron in present time which

would have been you know 200 ,000 years ago.

it's actually going back to the side return of

the future because it's trends work that's what

we explained to him and he kind of got it but

he didn't really he said he would continue to

uh... watch the show just for you know just for

you know being able to get through it but uh...

i don't know but he said that that explained

it more stating that the stasis pot initially

had a transwarp cell which is what caused the

ripple effect of the future, which is where Tarantulas

was headed to begin with. Right. Right. And then

there's a subplot that starts, I think, in season

three, where the Predacons intercept the transwarp

message and block it from the Maximals. That's

the end of season two. Yeah. Oh, OK. So the Maximals

never load out. Yeah, that's that's when they

send Ravage back. Yeah. Yes, and he uses his

transwarp ship and goes to the past and then

also Depth Charge when attempting to go through

one of the many rifts to find Rampage hits that

same transwarp Wave right which mutates his superstructure

as well Which, oddly enough, if we cross over

genres here, is actually the same transwarp rave

that killed Captain Kirk. Oh, God. The Nexus.

Yeah. So, Michael Powers, we kind of explained

it to him, you know, off the air. We just wanted

to bring it up. uh... on air just to clarify

for people the problem i was having understanding

what he was asking was he was thinking it was

two different timelines like kinda like regular

nineteen eighty five and then alternate nineteen

eighty five where biff is taken over he was thinking

it was two separate timelines but it's not it's

once all right yeah that made that that that

is interesting point but no Alright, so we're

gonna get into some episodes today. Only thing

wrong with the day so far. Ain't had me a chance

to club nothing. You know, properly defended,

this cavern would make an almost perfect fortress.

Yes, I suppose it would. So much Energon could

sustain a frugal Predacon for quite some time,

but... Something's percolating in that devious

brain of yours. You're right about this place.

It would make a perfect new Lair. For all of

us. Look, I know you're upset about your old

Lair being destroyed in the Big Burn. What do

you mean, all of us? You, me, and perhaps...

the fuser as well an arachnid trio aligned against

Megatron and Maximus alike side with you against

Megatron you're out of your mind webs and inside

yours remember so you really have no choice now

do you maybe hey I gotta do all the work around

here tell me quick strike How do you feel toward

Megatron? BossBot? Well, he's done okay leading

us so far. In fact, my only complaint is not

having enough Geisters to wail on regular -like.

Side with me against him, Fuser, and you'll have

ample opportunity to prove how tough you are.

I will, huh? That sounds good. Destruction better

than construction. You get my draft? Still...

Megatron's pretty tough. I see. You fear him.

There is nothing that crawls, walks, flies, or

swims that I'm afraid of! Count me in. But if

you're lying, Spiderbot, yours will be the first

teaster I dropkick! Now there is nothing to stop

me. Laugh while you can, Spider -boy. When the

time is right, that data track I downloaded will

mean the end of - Something on your mind? Me?

Whatever do you mean? Don't play coy with me.

I'll scan your mind for the answers if I have

- Remarkable! A section of your circuits has

been blocked to me. Don't know what you're -

Talking about open your mind to me open it now

You have done well, insect. Yes. I wonder how

the others are faring. Tarantulas, come in. Tarantulas.

Blackarachnia. Quickstrike. Anyone! Blastersarachnids!

What are they up to now? You can run, she -spider,

but you can never hide! When I get my claws on

you, I'll... And just what do you think you're

doing? your slave either terminate the link between

us or I'll crack this cube and you know what'll

happen then you don't have the nerve besides

I can stop you with a single thought but I'm

betting the energon radiation will interfere

with our link let's find out First up today is

Tangled Web. Oh great, another spider episode.

Optimus Primal is back and better than ever in

his new transmetal body, Megatron dispatches

Blackarachnia, Tarantulas, and Quickstrike to

a nearby cave to build a refueling station. Rattrap

and Silverbolt track them. And a fight ensues,

the cave is destroyed, and the Predacons retreat.

Megatron is furious at their failure, but little

does he realize Tarantulas' plans for the now

-forgotten cave. I'm really surprised how forgotten

this cave is. I keep expecting Black Corrective

to show up and go, I wonder what ever happened

to that cave. Well, see, Megatron. Already knew

I think he just it took him a little bit to figure

it out. Yeah until like after Close to the end

of season 2 and then season 3 is like ah ace

in my hole. Yep Let's see Quick strike calls

Megatron boss, but damn it. That's only reserved

for cheetor to optimus bastard You mean to tell

me that neither Blackarachnian or Quickstrike

hear Tarantulas' probe hit the cargo load? That's

ridiculous. That was pretty loud. Yeah. They

were otherwise engaged with their flirtatious

manner. Sugar bot. Sugar bot? I'm gonna get lucky

tonight. Just wait and then speaking of all that

tarantulas is westernized talk is funny as hell

even though I don't like tarantulas that was

funny It's funny that tarantulas has a sense

of humor Well, you know, it's it's like Yes,

he's a mad scientist, but he's a mad scientist

that likes to laugh at other people. Well, that's

because he makes everybody else the butt of his

jokes. Yeah. At least tarantulas is more spider

bike bot than just spider. No more ass fluid,

thank god. Well, he still practices. Eww. Spider

torture. And silence. I'm sorry what part of

the torture use are you referring in general

spider torture the whole scene the energon battle

oh I like the energon battle that was a great

mind yeah literally yeah didn't you see the look

the cord crossing yeah it's like this giant so

yeah we're not gonna go down that route this

time let's just say that there's a certain shape

that the cord took Get out of my mind. Get it

out. Get it out. Especially if you take into

consideration our earlier argument that the invasion

of Blackarachnia's privacy constitutes rape.

Yeah. In which case, you have some weird kind

of double bondage rape thing going on here with,

yeah. It was just very strange. Well, this is

where Tarantulas figures out that, uh, Blaccarinia

has the codes. Well, he figures out she's hiding

something from him, but he doesn't figure out

what it is. Well, she was also muttering it before

he walked up pretty loud. Yeah, she's kinda giving

herself away. But at the same time, it's also

revealed that she has, uh, maybe not equal access,

but she does have reverse access back into his

mind. Only because of the energetic interference.

Which is an interesting plot point that comes

up later. Oh, yes. God damn you tarantulas. You

are no bugs bunny Shut up Oh Trish was had a

few good lines. Yeah, he did The sigh that black

arachnia has it looks like it came from Raphael

at first From Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Yeah,

I just didn't place it. Yeah Maybe you can stick

a sound clip or something as a comparison. That's

a horrible USB port And my final note for this

one was wow the spider John the spider energon

battle kind of reminds me of the sex and demolition

man Yeah Which again, it's a total one, you know,

if we're looking at like mutual rape here, it's

kind of eerie and spooky. It's not it's not Oh,

what's that term? Con consensual. Yeah consensual.

Yeah. Yeah And Blackarachnia says, ah, ah, you

can take it too, can you? Take it, take it! It

was just a little twisted. Yeah. What do you

have for this one, Michael? A couple things.

Silverbolt and Blackarachnia actually kind of

meet for the first time. Or silverbolt. Well,

I mean that's where he gets a crush on her. Yes.

That's well I don't think I noticed a crush on

her, but she definitely is Yeah, it's like my

lady, you know, he's very gentlemanly but the

the crush on Blackarachnia's part is evident.

Yeah, she's just like And that comes back later,

oh, yeah very much so Oh There's a term for when

two furries start rubbing on each other I forget

what that is, but it's only one and the other

one's an arachnid Yeah, well, I mean she's kind

of hairy somewhere. I'm sure Oh God But you know

the carpets mashing the drapes and such But this

has repercussions all the way through Beast Machine.

Yes, yes, it does. So it's interesting to note

that this is the first time it comes up. Tarantulas

managed to steal himself a fortress. But again,

I was really surprised that Blackarachnia didn't

catch on. In fact, as soon as she saw that explosion,

I was surprised she didn't look right at Tarantulas

and go, what did you do? I know exactly what

you did. Well, I mean it was pretty obvious considering

quick strike was like and where have you been?

You know and he says never mind that you know

and then goes exactly and then they always Yeah,

and then silver belt rules near and it blows

up You know just miraculously when there was

no shot fired because he was in beast mode Yeah,

but I think that's what he wanted all along.

He just wanted Maximals near it So it looked

like they blew it up when he blew it up. Yeah

And he saved all the energy for himself, that

greedy little bastard. Well, he has plans! He's

got something up his sleeve. I'm saving for a

rainy day! Exactly. Speaking of plans, I wonder

what exactly Tarantulas' plans are to overthrow

both Megatron and the Maximals. I mean, he's

actively trying to recruit Blackarachnia, who's

like, you know, fuck you! Quickstrike's dumb.

Yeah, Quickstrike's going to go with whoever's

going to let him beat up the most people. He

doesn't care. Oh, and it also should be noted,

this is not the first time. Well, this is the

first time, but this is not the only time that

Quickstrike teams up with Tarantulas. Yeah, because

he's a dumbass and Tarantulas promises much more

than he can deliver. Yeah, we'll talk about that

once we get to Season 3. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

He basically has his own little spider army you

know of three which isn't a whole lot granted

if it were like waspinator and pterosaur and

scorponok but i mean it's him who's really really

smart and really really devious and black arachnia

who's really really smart and like a ninja and

you know they're they're cannon fodder which

would be quick strike so i mean that makes me

wonder maybe he has a plan involving his secret

base where he could take out both Megatron and

the Maximals. I don't think Waspinator was in

this episode that much because I don't remember

seeing a splat alert. Waspinator was in it. Him

and Inferno were putting up the jamming station.

Oh, that's right. That's right. And Inferno's

like, you serve the royalty well. And he says,

Waspinator does not serve. Waspinator rules.

Yeah, but I don't really count that. Like, when...

Oh, this is the other thing. I believe this is

the first time that we see Megatron's tub. Isn't

it? With his rubber ducky. Yeah. Did we see the

rubber ducky? I don't know if we saw the rubber

ducky, but we see the tub. Because he's in it

while he's trying to reach Tarantulas and the

rest of the spider crew. Yeah, because he squeezes

it when he's pissed. Oh, does he? I didn't see

that. Yeah. Yeah, he does that when he's pissed.

But my point is, when Inferno calls in and Waspinator's

in the background getting splatted, it's kind

of hard. I mean, you can see it, but I really

don't count that as an alert, because it isn't

something that's on the main screen. It's something

that's off on a monitor. And it wasn't epic.

Yeah, it wasn't epic at all. It was just the

tower fell on him. Yeah. It's kind of like tarantulas

always getting hit with a rock. Yeah, pretty

much. What else you got, Michael? Megatron straightens

his shirt, just like Picard. And then Megatron

facepalms, just like Picard. I like that facepalm.

That was funny. He's like, oh my god, I'm surrounded

by idiots. Pretty much. At least it's not Scorponok

and Pterosaur. Well, yeah, it could be. Well,

you know, honestly, I would hazard a guess that

Quickstrike is dumber than Pterosaur. Maybe not

dumber than Scorponok, but definitely dumber

than Pterosaur. He doesn't even have the sense

to make plans of his own. He's just like, OK,

whichever way the wind blows. Yeah, pretty much.

Pterosaurs, like, how can I screw with them?

Yeah, whereas Quickstrike's just dumb. In fact,

Quickstrike is so dumb that he is easily manipulated

by Blackarachnia. And he's the butt of all the

future beatings and jokes throughout the next

season. Oh, as opposed to Waspinator? Or is there

double the beatings and jokes? Well, Last Vanator

gets just as many splat alerts, but he's not

as bad as, like, Quick Strike ends up in a lot

of situations. See, he's here. I mean, Blackarachnia

is basically like, hey, big boy, you know, why

don't you come up and see me sometime? And he's

like, ah, you know. I mean, honestly, with the

series. a track record of Looney Tunes moments.

I'm surprised he didn't turn into a wolf and

his face turned into a bugle and go wah, wah,

wah, and his tongue hanging out and jumping up

and down with his tail. Speaking of wolf, did

you notice that Silverbolt, when he growls, sounds

like Dinobot? No. Well, that's kind of obvious

though, isn't it, seeing as how McNeil voices

both of them? Well, he voices Waspinator, Silverbolt,

Dinobot, and Ratchet. So kind of a lot to juggle.

He's kind of the Welker of the Beast Wars. Yeah,

it's like all voices done by Scott McNeil and

accompaniments. I'm not sure what the quota was.

I know back in the 80s, and it might be the same

standard today, but normally. It was only like

one person can only do three voices or whatever

Right well before over time right it it might

have changed since then obviously But I find

it very funny that after Beast Wars and into

Beast Machines. He only has one voice Rattrap

in Beast Machines No, then he has silverbolt

and then okay. Well few occurrences a waspinator.

All right Okay, yeah, but I mean until silverbolt

shows up It's yeah, it's rat trap is the main

voice in beast machines, but anyway Okay, what

else we got Ain't no figure in a female effective

light fuse are Kick it and see if come on Why

yes, it's funnier when you say When I say tarantulas

The Yoda voice is more in tune with waspinator

a little bit those kind of blend Yeah, overall,

I dig spider episodes, even though you don't.

Because you're like, scared of spiders. I like

them in Transmetal. Yeah, I don't mind them so

much. Like, Blackarachnia, I can handle. She

wasn't the one always, you know, squirting ass

juice. But Tarantulas, I just... Although wouldn't

it be funny if she was? I knew he was gonna go

there. If I open the door, I see him. Oh Wow

Whoa That's a little wacky But yeah, I I don't

much Even though I still don't care for tarantulas.

I'm not that grossed out by him in transmittal

form He doesn't have the spindly spider legs

anymore, so he does he just doesn't use them

He uses his bike wheel which again as far as

as far as kibble where the hell does he store

that in his inside his own ass It folds sideways

under his abdomen His abdomen, yes His abdomen

it folds sideways under his abdomen. Yeah, and

then when he he kind of hops up a little yeah

And it pops out. It's kind of like a kickstand

for a bike. He's hugged like a wheel. What do

you got, Steve? I was going to say, when Tarantulas

is talking about, and we do live to please Megatron,

his green eyes and his chest plate were very

noticeably missing. Oh, were they? I did not

notice that. They disappeared for that quick

scene and then they were gone and they came back.

He was talking to Quickstrike. I noticed that

when he was talking to Quickstrike, well, during

the Ain't No Figure in a Female line, he kind

of looks at, you know, over at Quickstrike and

his eyes kind of bug a little bit, you know,

like he's kind of, you know, leaning in. And

I thought, well, that's kind of an interesting

use of emotion. He's kind of emoting with his

eyes despite the fact that he's got no face and

he's got eight eyes Yeah, he's got his eyes in

his stomach Yeah, no wonder you're creeped out

by him geez that's cool. Yeah, he's always watching

Oh God that's a horrible joke Keep your eye on

your food kind of reminds me of the old bill

bill Cosby sketch about About babies he likes

it when he watches the food go down the tube.

Oh, yeah, I like that. That's good Hey, get them

Brussels sprouts out of there What else you got

Steve Not really a lot I don't really particularly

care for this episode all that much yeah, I don't

either I mean it's it's somewhat important in

terms of showing how dumb Quick strike is and

you know in that he'll follow whoever happens

to be top dog of whatever situation I would say

it's more important as far as the spiders go

with Severing the link and and then tarantulas

finding the base Yeah, that that's about the

only instrumental part besides the silver bolt

and black arachnia meeting on opposition. Yeah,

right See there's a lot of stuff going on here.

Yeah still Megatron facepalming like mmm It's

important somebody should do a side -by -side

comparison picture of that I was so going to

And speaking of other things you have to do you

still have to make that video, you know You know,

I keep meaning to and and I You know the last

video I did just kind of it popped into my head

fully formed and I just made it Whereas this

one I can't seem to develop a script for it and

I'm having trouble So in that last video the

ending pissed me off Why you know why? Because

I got a yeah They kind of pissed me off because

the lighting was a little too dark and it was

grainy at the end which bothered me All right,

so we are gonna move on Why should I believe

this is anything other than a transparent ploy

to save your own hide? So I thought before you

chose to fight an optimist primal side You betrayed

me treachery keeps the wits sharp Indeed. And

yours are razor sharp, which is why I believe

victory will soon be in your grasp. I would share

in that victory. Computer, voice code, Dinobot,

change activation code. Activation code change

complete. From this moment on, I am Maximal No

More. Next is Maximal No More. What does honor

mean to a noble and complicated warrior such

as Dinobot? And is he willing to betray that

honor in order to tip the scales of the Beast

Wars? Dinobot handles the first golden disc over

to Megatron, betraying the Maximals and joining

ranks of the Predacon. I have very few notes

for this one. First of all, I have a real issue.

I know that the Maximals and Predacons are from

the future. But I have a real issue with Dinobot

having a fucking laptop. He has a laptop? Yeah,

in the very beginning. Yeah, in the very beginning.

But it's not really a laptop. It's more like

one of those little desktop communicators that

Star Trek has. Yeah, well, it still looks like

a laptop to me. I think in 96 they hadn't quite

envisioned paper thin, you know view screens

yet. So well, they actually did it's called Star

Trek Okay Trekkies That was a good wasp and interspline

alert rat trap Have no idea what I watched that

this episode so long ago. I have no idea what

the hell happened Oh, I know what it was I remember

that now because what I didn't send this picture

to you Steve But that was I don't think I did

that was originally gonna be one of the potential

art images of I screen grabbed something like

right when waspinators head is kind of like elongated

where it's it's up and down split open a little

bit and yeah I remember that now so I'm surprised

you didn't screen grab it just as the puff of

smoke goes in his face he's kind of like a waspinator

on the chronic no drugs are bad for you kids

yeah yeah just say no I think it's funny that

everyone seems to be able to mimic quick strike

You know the last one we've got tarantulas and

this one we've got rat trap. Yeah, you know honestly

I would argue that tarantulas wasn't mimicking

quick strikes voice. He was just talking Western

like quick strike does Wait, well, he knows it

by now. He doesn't do it very much anymore. They

can't help the way they talk. They're born like

that. Well, no he wasn't. He was born in the

ghetto and he just adopted that form. Oh god.

Alright, I'm trying to make an illusion of the

fact that he's probably retarded and you're like,

no, he's a ghetto. red trap pulls that uh that

charge out of his wrist so that usually means

bomb right yeah so i expected yeah usually so

i expected him to toss that over to waspinator

and waspinator says oh energon goodie and tries

to eat it and blows his own head off uh which

would have been cooler than what happened to

him well but then i'm thinking wait a minute

if that blows up he's sitting on top of dog bot

yeah he's gonna blow up doggy bot too so i'm

don't you want to follow waspinator waspinator

will lead Yes, I have three more Dino Bot you

are a true pred and of course he switches back

but still Have I mentioned since we started season

two that I really like Megatron Transmetal one

that is so fucking awesome I like the fact that

he's like uber -powerful, but I think he becomes

even more uber -powerful in his Transmetal 2

form. True. It's technically not Transmetal 2,

it's technically just an ascended Transmetal.

Well, as far as what it says on his package when

you buy it. Yeah, but you could argue that Optimal

is a Transmetal 2 as well, then. I would argue

that, yes. Yeah. Well, I have both Transmetal

2, but... In fact, I would argue that This series

didn't have nearly enough Transmetal 2 going

on in it. Oh, and it should have been more. Yeah,

it should have gone on another year. Well, that's

the same thing I said two weeks ago when we were

talking about Aftermath, about the two lovebirds.

They should have gotten Transmetalized and not

sent off to the great void. Yeah, have Airazor.

Have Airazor based off her toy and have Tigatron

based on his BotCon version. Yeah. The one that

looks like ravage. Oh, yeah, the the the x9.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Well, it's not not the car though

No, no the x9 which was uh, it was I mean it

was literally a It's like Transmetal one cheetor

with it's yeah with it. Yeah with a beast head.

Exactly Basically my note there though is the

design I like the design versus the original

Megatron. It's not so much his personality or

whether he's more powerful. It's the design of

the character model that I really enjoy. I was

just getting used to his head being his pet cat.

I like the fact that it folds into his back now.

Yeah. He gets to do it again. Actually, I was

going to say that his... His dragon head. No,

his... Robot mode kind of reminds me of G1 Grimlock

a little bit. Yep Yeah Which would have been

cool Dino butt it's not the first time rat trap

has said it but at the end of the episode when

they're When they're going down the steps from

the thing that was funny. This is the worst ride

of my life You're riding down the stairs buddy

It's like there's only two ways out of here.

You can take the window or you can take the stairs

It's like oh, we'll take the stairs, and you

know it also it brings up a good point with this

episode With With rat with all Four of McNeil's

care well three of them of McNeil's characters

wasp nader rat trap and Dinobot Do I wonder if

he does the lines? As a conversation like we're

talking now like if Steve started talking to

himself between Waspinator and Megatron Well,

I'm wondering if he did it that way or if the

producers had him do it Record dyno bot lines

and then record the other lines. I think it would

work better if He did it alternating as far as

going back and forth I can't say how he did it

in this instance, but I've heard him do the lines

where he's arguing with himself between Red Trap

and Dinobot, yeah. Cool. It depends on how skilled

you are as a voice actor, whether you can pull

that off for certain voices. Yeah, but I mean

these are two completely different voices and

for him the transition back and forth that quickly.

it's i mean i i really wish i had a video camera

the one time that i i saw him do it up close

we i was in like the third row and and he was

doing it and it was like i i i can't even do

it justice but i mean he was literally having

an argument with himself and it was like yeah

chopper face i'd like to see you try it is like

i mean i'll destroy you you know i mean it's

just going back and forth and it was it was awesome

it was epic uh... steve what do you have for

this episode Did anybody notice that Dinobot

had his clone having his skin hanging on the

wall? I did not notice it, but I saw the picture

in the wiki. Yeah. And apparently Dinobot has

a sky view from his room and a couple extra of

his dagger that goes in his tail. Oh, yeah. I

didn't even notice the decorations in fact. I

didn't even notice he was in his room. Yeah,

he was The first time you ever see it pretty

much Yeah, and so you can tell Dinobot's pretty

Pretty much the only one that doesn't have anything

to pack up when they go Yeah He very much. He's

got a little something to wrap around and to

keep himself warm It's like he keeps all of his

Rambo style weapons in the in the command center

Yeah, when he presses that button on his chest

and it opens up He opens the door like a light

shines down I'm gonna go It's kind of like Grandpa

Simpson in the Simpsons movie where the shining

light is looking for him and he leans over and

the light just like goes to the left particular

scene when they're uh they're scouting the area

and then inferno comes up to dino bot and he's

like Stand your ground traitor You're on my ground

insect You're on my ground It's like uh, oh,

what was that that that scene in? Commando where

Arnold Schwarzenegger and the other guy are fighting

and they're they're trading Trading, you know

quips back and forth and and Ray Don Chong says,

oh my god, I can't believe all this macho bullshit

We need Ray Don Chong in this episode, you know

in between Dino Bot and The ant saying I can't

believe all this macho bullshit Which would be

funny I like especially if you've seen commando

I haven't certain to think maybe you haven't

yeah probably haven't The hell is wrong with

you people you haven't seen commando. Oh my god.

What year did it come out? Probably before you

were born. What year did it come out? I'm not

sure. If it's the 380s, I won't watch. Well,

no, it was definitely uh, it was definitely 1985.

Oh, I haven't heard of it. I was too attached

to Back to the Future. Thank you very much. It's

just another one of those Arnold Schwarzenegger

movies where he's like killing everybody and

as he kills people he says these funny one -liners

Stabs stabs right through a guy and nails into

the wall with a knife and he says stick around

Which is just really funny, yeah. And he grabs

it, he gets this guy by the leg hanging upside

down over a cliff, and he says, Sully, remember

when I said I killed you last? And he goes, that's

right, man, you said that. And he goes, I lied.

And he lets him go. And then he walks back to

Rae Dong Chung, and she says, what happened to

Sully? And he says, I let him go. I love that.

It's, I don't know, it's just. Cheesy 80s, you

know, Schwarzenegger movie. It's funny as hell

though. Oh, and Alyssa Milano is his daughter

who gets captured by the evil mercenaries. I

will kill you! I will fucking kill you! That's

exactly what he says. Yes, you gotta go out and

see that. In fact, I'm surprised that's not an

M -Wire movie. Along with like Predator. Do you

know how long M -Wire is going? Oh, forever.

It's 2013 at this point. Yeah. Actually, it's

closer to 2015 at this point. Oh, OK. It's up

to like, well, I sent you an updated schedule.

It's up to like 236, 240 episodes. Doesn't mean

I actually look at the end of it. Why don't you

pull out one of those chick flicks like Made

in Manhattan and cover something cool like Commando?

Because Mike owns it. Well, first of all, no,

no, no. Now, wait a second. Hold the fucking

phone up right now, because first of all, I don't

own Maiden Manhattan, thank you very much. Of

course, someone dragged me to a theater to watch

it, but I don't own the DVD. Second of all, the

MWIRE schedule, and we're going extremely off

topic to this episode, but the MWIRE schedule

was basically based off of my DVD collection.

And I make changes as needed, whether I have

the DVD or whether Steve has access to the DVD.

So it's constantly changing, with the exception

of the big episodes, like episode 50, 75, 100,

stuff like that. So whatever. Anyway, back to

maximum no more. That's all I got. I like when

Megatron and Dinobot are talking. I mean, there's

a couple instances when there's a lot of good

banter going on. But I don't recall who said

what, so I can't say it as the voice. But treachery

keeps the wits sharp. And then the other one

says, indeed, and yours are razor sharp. I think

that's part of the audio for the episode that

I grabbed. I think it is. I think I grabbed that,

I'm not sure. We'll have to listen back when

we listen to this episode. But yeah, there was

a lot of good back and forth. And surprisingly,

I don't think Dinobot even punched Megatron in

this episode. Normally, since Dinobot defected,

he's always the one to be giving Megatron good

punches, especially knocking his tooth out. Well,

because Dinobot's the only one to pred, he's

pretty much the only one that can actually get

to Megatron and knows Megatron's style. Yeah,

true. I do love this this particular scene when

it was a sarcastic remark on Dinobots part, but

Megatron begins by Inferno, eight quick strike.

Yes, my queen. I was not aware you had given

yourself a new title. The untas -solving faulty

programming. I think it might be one of the quotes

again. I don't remember I've already grabbed

all the audio for this one So it's been a while

since I've actually listened to it But yeah,

I think that might be one of the quotes, but

yeah that that was great I always love that that

that exchange between Inferno and Megatron. I

do wish you'd stop calling me that that's happened

a lot lately. Yeah Well, it'll probably continue.

I think it continues all the way up until inferno

becomes a drum for the early humans So is that

it for this episode? No, okay. What else do you

have? Cheater and Rhinox don't even show up.

Oh, yeah, what the hell lazy bastards? Well neither

just this primal Yes, he does. Primal's in it.

Yes, he does. Because he's there at pretty much

the end. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right.

That's right. This one begins Megatrend's hint

dropping of his grand scheme that Dinobot only

confirms it when he says it will destroy Maximal

and Predacon alike and all who came before. Yeah.

Did you notice the? Jamming stations that were

shown Are actually related to the alien visit

like the symbol Oh, yeah, there was a lot of

continuity with the disc That'll come up in the

in the next discussion. It's like a chicken or

the egg thing though It's like did he plant them

there and they just happen to match up with the

disc or did he see the disc and say I kind of

want to put tracking stations in this array just

in case no i think he planned it because he saw

the desk because he is a backup right well he's

trying to figure out how the disk works still

uh... so i i i think he's discovering it as it

goes along and again like i said we get to the

final episode for today uh... that will most

definitely come up well she got steve Basically

Dinobot starts his own destruction in this episode.

Yeah his downward spiral because he becomes less

of a character until after this episode until

Code of a hero. Code of a hero, yeah. So you

know pretty much done for I think that's really

the only purpose this episode serves is to show

that Dinobots Having his doubts not really sure

which way he should be going kind of wants to

go this way But knows that his heart's really

not in it. So he was you know, I might as well

be a good guy if they'll have me You know, he's

kind of torn doesn't really know which way is

Right for him. And the only way he's gonna find

out is by dying Yeah, literally, I mean and and

dying is is is probably his only option considering

what what was said in way back in season one

in in the tree in the well I don't know if it

was victory or Beast Wars part two oh yeah it

might have been victory when they were when they

were planning on going back to Cybertron and

he's like oh well I'm a Predacon the Maximals

are just gonna put me in jail or whatever and

I would rather die than do that or whatever so

you know pretty much death is his only option

Yeah, he goes out well, but that's another story.

Oh, yeah, that's As far as this story goes though

I mean that to me that the only purpose this

story really shows is to or the only purpose

that serves is to show the Dino bot is Kind of

faltering not really sure where his path is.

Mm -hmm But you know, it won't be resolved so

much later Exactly, so When Dinobot begins looking

at the beginning of the episode with Megatron's

outpost and the golden disc on the screen, Cybertronic

text appears. It's translated to read, they killed

Kenny, those bastards. Does it really? Yeah.

And Rat Trap had a cheese scanner. Yep. He was

trying to find cheese. Since he likes it so much.

And, uh... If you like it so much, why don't

you marry it? I will let you. How do you like

that? I like the fight that Dinobot had with

Quick Strike. Hasbro wouldn't have let him do

this, but it would have been awesome if Dinobot

just freaking smoked his ass right there and

ended Quick Strike. He had the chance. Megatron

gave it to him. He just wouldn't do it. Yeah,

well that would have completely I don't want

to say ended the Final say the fairness of the

lineup, but yeah I mean they're they're pretty

much one -on -one right now if you killed off

one of the Predacons and Then down about switch

sides back to the Maximals there, you know They

wouldn't have that that one guy paired up against

one other guy ratio anymore But they could have

called it the going of the fusions You know,

two episodes later. Yeah, we're getting rid of

them. I don't know who I was talking to. I might

have been in another Skype chat. A lot of the

people that I follow on Twitter, we've been Skype

chatting for the last three nights. What's up

with that? Holding out on us? Yeah, he's flaking

out on us. No, whatever. hey i'm already through

the entire beast wars era uh... uh... i'm i'm

set until uh... until these machines comes around

but anyway arms are recording those are called

podcasts on the no no no no uh... anyway uh...

we somehow we got to talking about beast wars

and uh... i said something about coming of the

fuse or is and how that being a totally sticky

situation But anyway I'm sure all the slash fic

authors in there immediately chimed in The whole

story about fusions coming all over everything

talking about spreading DNA In a good way anyway,

that's more than we Is there anything else for

maximal no more no more maximal, okay, we're

moving on I'd forgotten what beauty this planet

once offered That's what Tarangelus is after.

And it looks like he's there. And so is the Maximal.

We could have warned them. That stinking Megatron

hadn't jammed if we could have... Well, you didn't.

So much for the Maximal. We must have activated

the alien site. I have been careless. I'm picking

up two more Maximals headed for that position.

Do we help, Tarantulas? Royalty! Waspinator and

Quickstrike report a Maximal attack at Jamming

Tower 3. Shall I reinforce them? No! With most

of the Maximals in the field, and considering

the circumstances... It's time we retrieved the

alien disk optimus. Did you see it the signal?

No, but Cheetor said it took Tigatron an air

razor what? See what you can find out. We'll

be there soon optimus out Freeze image magnify

Perimeter attack. Predacon unit, Megatron. Auto

guns online! I, uh... I come in peace. You're

about to leave in pieces. No need for violence,

Rhinox. I merely wish to talk. Maximal fool!

Only up today is the two -parter of other visits.

In part one, the Maximals detect another alien

device far away from the Axelon and investigate,

spying a mammoth plant slash structure. The Maximal

duo are attacked by a strange creeping vines

converted to energy and beamed into space. The

Predacons arrive to seize the device for themselves,

but it may prove too powerful for them. Um, and

it doesn't say, uh... And it doesn't say which,

uh, which two Maximals, but we all know it was

Tiger Tron and Air Razor. I didn't know that.

Yeah. No, I'm kidding. I knew that. So, um, I

actually love how this episode begins. It's very

different than normal. Very cool -looking it

was the computer image fade in Yeah, I did like

how they did that and they started off with all

of the alien Structures that they've encountered

so far really only three out of the five Yes,

which this episode launches the fourth. Yep Optimus

trusts too much. Ooh, I sense an illusion to

be machines tank or slash Rhinox I just sense

that Rhinox is getting tired very fast. Well,

yeah, we couldn't make him tank or this early

though. Why, he'd pulverize? Yeah. Megatron has

another jamming station up, dammit. Gee, like

we didn't see that coming. And I believe this

is the first episode that Primal says maximum

burn since he came back to life. i think i missed

that actually yeah i think so um yikes there

goes airazor and tigertron off to become a transsexual

i mean transmetal transmetal to be merged transmetal

sexual i am transformed god well it's kind of

bittersweet in the sense that you know they flirted

before tigertron and airazor of kind of like

you know the lady rides a tiger yeah But this

is the first time that they've actually like...

Wow, not yet, but... This is the first time they've

like held hands and it's been an intimate moment.

And it's like, uh, isn't this nice and sweet

and we're surrounded by nature and it's returning

and fantastic. And then there's the tentacle

porn. No one expects the spiked tentacle porn.

It sneaks up behind you. And then all is lost

and then all is innocence lost I like that eraser

and she's like, oh my god, I Have a real mile

that's wrapped around her legs and shit tentacle

porn aside I have a real issue with this this

opening scene because You you said Michael we've

seen them flirt, but we don't actually see a

whole developing relationship like this you said

this is the first time they've held hands and

all of a sudden when they're getting ready to

be taken away my spark will always find yours

it's played off like there's been like this years

and years of love they've only known each other

for what say two three months give me a fucking

break well you know what kills me though it's

like dude didn't your white tiger girlfriend

just die exactly I mean, she's not even barely

in the ground yet, and you're already chasing

tail. That's not cool, man. Have some respect.

That's cold. I know. That's cold. Yo, you reading

me, Trans Monkey? It just don't sound right.

No, it really came from Rat Trap. I liked it.

It was funny. In a weird sort of way. I don't

think there was enough of a segue between the

the tentacle porn and necrophilia To the trans

monkey I think we need a nice pause there. We

have to go back and edit in a good three or four

second pause before we move on to trans monkey

Wow. Wow. Waspinator splat alert. Waspinator

pinned like iron butterfly. Inigata Da Vida?

Sing along with me now. Inigata Da Vida, baby.

Come on, you're supposed to sing with me. Okay,

moving on. We don't know what scary thing you're

referring to. It's probably from Rocky Horror.

What, Inigata Da Vida? I don't know. It's like

classic rock. Who sings it? You know, it's like

Iron Butterfly. Elvis. Oh. The band, Iron Butterfly.

He said that. You remember the old commercials?

No. No, it was like, hey, man, is that Freedom

Rock? Yeah, man, we'll turn it up, man. And it

turned up. It's like, you're gonna defeat our

baby. Yeah, I don't remember that. Anyways, moving

on. I come in peace. You're about to leave in

pieces. So piece off I like the the the giant

gun with a little speaker in the middle Well,

that's what I was circle of guns and then the

little mouthpiece in the middle that goes what

the hell do you want? Yeah, that's This is the

other thing I was gonna bring up that is another

I think I've grabbed like two or three quotes

for this episode that is one of them that whole

exchange between the two of them especially with

the the ambient you know noise as far as you

know the the axel on giving off feedback which

I think is a really cool noise and then my next

that noise that noise of the other that's like

fingernails on the chalkboard uh... but it was

much better than fingernails on a chalkboard

uh... and when it's not was all the bfg is dead

uh... uh... it's just kind of drew yeah like

what is calling the mascot guns the inflatable

mask guns from the mass Okay crickets crickets

crickets crickets anyway Well Steve was supposed

to speak up there because we just did mask a

couple of weeks ago, so And then I purposefully

put ha ha ha ha ha like Owen capital letters

and then Rockham Sockham robots Beast Wars edition

I wish they would have sold a toy set of this.

Yeah, exactly But you know, this has brought

on the rights to Rockham Sockham, I don't know

Yeah, cuz I would have been awesome actually

they could have pulled that off Hasbro's missed

out on a lot of things they could do that's why

all these aftermarket companies are doing it

now Yeah, but you know the rock of soccer robots

was was neat. It was light -hearted and kind

of funny, but Compared that you can know compared

to the Point -blank chest shot that right Rhinox

got a minute earlier Yeah, yeah, I mean literally

he pulled him over put the gun in his chest and

said goodbye boom and he went flying and I thought

fuck you know it was just a couple episodes ago

that he literally had a giant hole blasted in

his chest yeah and I expected them to bring that

that damage mold back when he got up to have

a big ass hole in his chest that would have been

epic but he didn't he didn't have any damage

at all he's just like that hurt you know yeah

like that really hurt yeah yeah but I mean then

and then rock -a -sock on robots so yeah It's

it's kind of like the the juxtaposition of Double

Gatling guns of doom with all the spent carcasses

flying off and waspinator You know and exploding

in a thousand pieces it's like it's gruesome,

but it's kind of funny at the same time Megatron

must be stopped now a g1 reference a spin -off

of Megatron must be stopped no matter the cost

Didn't I didn't actually read no matter the cost

into it, but it would have an epic if you'd said

well, right? No, he didn't say that but I I alluded

to Between what what primal said of Megatron

must be stopped now rather than them waiting

for Megatron to make a move I'll I I made the

connection between the two as I said spin -off

of Megatron must be stopped no matter the cost

It's not a huge step. No, but still it's there

Think I use the term epic about 13 times this

episode. Yeah Well, it's gonna get me even more

epic as as season 2 and season 3, you know As

as we go through season 2 and season 3 The invaders

come royalty Look an inferno Queen this time.

Yeah, thank God for that Big giant surge of energy

then to be continued damn it We're all gonna

die like cheese We're gonna go to cheese hell

and eat cheese I like the part where Rhinox has

got black arachnia right in his crosshairs. He's

like You better put that down and he doesn't

see Megatron behind him. Yeah, and Megatron literally

disarms him Yeah takes his arm off it takes his

arm off and then when he hits the ground he says

Rhinox I am your father. No, he doesn't and right

next says Actually, you know what honestly went

now did Megatron really take his arm off or did

he just disarm his weapon? No, he took his arm

off. He ripped his whole arm off. It would have

been... They didn't actually show it, but there

was kind of a sound of rip, you know, and then

Rhinox... And then you see two metal bars sticking

out of his shoulder. See, it would have been

cooler if they went back and found David Wise's

old script of War Don and had him rip the arm

off and smack him in the face with it. And beat

him with it. No, that was it was pretty rough

I mean I had to rewind a couple of times and

say did he really rip his arm off and then later

on in the episode They show him putting his arm

back on Yeah, so at that point I'm like wow man,

they did tear his arm. That's hardcore It would

have been really hardcore if they'd have shown

it like I mean cutting his arm off and his arm

flying away Yeah, they show Megatron. It looks

like he has a hand His hand but then they kind

of cover it up So it's like was he holding his

arm or was he there was that his hand? I wasn't

sure Yeah, I mean if it had have been a green

hand I would have known but you know, they didn't

they didn't really show it as well as they could

have and I think that's because Ultimately, it's

a kids show and you don't want you know decapitations

or things like that in the kids show but you

know few minutes later there he is with the power

tool put his arm back on oh yeah that's right

i remember that now i just i didn't see it i

didn't really notice it i just thought megatron

knocked him down and took the disc from him i

didn't notice that he ripped his arm off wow

disarmed him literally that was awesome what

else you got michael uh... one last thing was

uh... they have the i should say rhinox and uh...

dyno bot are taking a look at the the records

they have of the the alien disk and you know

that they match up the the glyphs that they found

so far to the locations on where they found them

yeah and from that they extrapolate one more

the location of one more glyph and that they

go to find it and that's how the whole ball of

math sense of you know Tigers from an air razor

but There appears to be one more glyph left over

that they haven't triangulated yet. Yeah And

I'm wondering, you know, how long is it is it

gonna be visitors before that last glyph comes

into play or Steve Basically that last emblem

Yeah is pretty much useless Yeah, they I just

think that that's kind of portrayed by Well,

they never actually got to it because the disk

was destroyed so tiger Hawk was actually the

next alien intervention I Thought that would

be like something that would be useful in the

future No, unfortunately, they blew up the disk.

So there was no need for the symbol either talk

about seasons Yeah, talk about seeds of the future

not buried in the past No, they're buried in

your backyard. But anyways. Buried in your ass!

Along with your pod corpse. I'm sorry. All right.

Is that it, Michael, that you had for notes?

Yeah, pretty much. I'm good. What do you got,

Steve? I like that Megatron wanted the big pod

ship. And he put his face in it. Yeah, that doesn't

come till later, though. That's in part two.

We're not to part two yet. I know but I Like

we're tarantulas, you know Pretty much fears

the aliens. Yeah confused them and then The fuse

or not users the trans metals get affected by

the initial blast But don't go in stasis like

I'm like the rest of them. Mm -hmm I Also like

how inferno gets finally choked We're calling

Megatron Queen. Yeah, I mean I I noticed it,

but I don't think I I Don't think I wrote it

down Say the word and he will burn my queen Yeah

You know I gotta say You know Michael you brought

up that Cheetor and the others weren't in the

other episode I gotta say cheetor had a lot of

good good emotions in this one outside of the

sound like if you took if you took this episode

And you got rid of every ambient noise and every

sound effect and just had the cheetor lines You

know, you could hear the, you know, the real

regret in Cheetor's voice and stuff. I'm just

saying that Coralette pulled it off really, really

well. Yeah, okay. Talented group of people. I

think we covered that. Well, yeah, we'll cover

it until the end of the show. I'm just saying

that it... Same thing with the Tigatron stuff

a couple episodes ago. That kind of surprised

me that that... that Blue could do that kind

of voicing. So it's just one of those surprising

things. So is that it for part one? Apparently,

the Wiki has a little bit of trivia. The original

script called for the alien plant to lure Tigertron

and Eraser in with a stasis pad containing a

blank. OK. Which to me would have been quite

pointless. Yeah, I Mean it that they didn't even

need the pod I mean they were just exploring

to see what happened to the planet and ran into

it like oops shit. We're dead. Yep They probably

wouldn't have done as much hand holding and flirting

if they had been looking for something as opposed

to just like enjoying nature very true very true

All right, so are we ready to move on to part

two for sure For shizzle in part two of their

voices or other visits. I almost another voices

crap All these OV titles are getting me mixed

up What is the mystery of oh wait whoops? That's

the wrong one. He almost read bad spark damn

it Make a turn together what shut up? Megatron

boards the metal hunter and activates the plant

structure of the center of the alien site while

tarantulas theorizes about its connection to

the aliens Transmetal technology and the beast

oars at large Megatron sets his sights on the

maximals with this floating fortress at his disposable

The alien base controlled by the golden disk

that was very cool Yes, that was quite nice.

Because you don't think that, you know, when

you first see the discs and you see the symbols,

you don't think they're buttons. It's not like

a big remote control. And it turns out it is.

Well, it makes you wonder what the human disc

would control then. It's shown what the human

disc controls. Okay, I'm lost. You're talking

about the other golden disc, correct? I'm talking

about the one that they're using in this episode

Well, that's the alien golden disc, right? The

alien golden disc controls the podship. Oh Okay,

the original golden disc control right right

the one I think that's destroyed already though

The original golden disc, yeah, no, no, I know

bod gave it to Megatron I thought Dinobot gave

Megatron the alien disk. No, that's the one that

got stolen from Rhinox. Yeah, that's right. Megatron

already had right. When Dinobot defected back,

he gave him the human disk, which he had hidden

away. And then when Megatron went to get back

the second disk, that's what he stole from Rhinox

was the alien disk. It all makes sense now. Guess

I love rat trap sarcasm. We'll think of something.

He says well, isn't that just prime? Yes, he

always has good lines yes, he does fighting maxis

is quick straight needing some tampons And she's

gonna sell you some car insurance Corn insurance

no not corn car At least rat trap can ride on

the apes surfboard instead of his back Yeah,

less chance of singed tail that way ain't that

the truth he liked riding in the back. Oh That's

such a horrible horrible joke I Know I know Steve's

gonna bring this up, but I made a note about

the big medit the the big Megatron headed base

I Know that's the first occurrence of it, and

I love it And I put this in in bold because if

you guys looking in the Skype window and look

at my picture That's the the episode art. Hey

kids. Look, it's a hung monkey Because optimus

is hanging by his hands He's captured I see yeah

in other words he's going to be lynched Wow,

yeah, yeah Oh, um, oh This is a walk. Okay, this

is um This is a wasp near comedy alert not a

splat alert, but ant bot is major suck up And

I've said this before and I'll continue says

I know I've denounced the bug bots before but

I have to say it again I really love waspinator

for his comedy He says funny things when black

arachnia jumps out of the base does quick strike

slide down her web I Don't know I Could have

sworn because it looks like when she's like when

she's because she transforms when it looks like

she transformed it looks like she When she jumped

out it looks like the the webbing came out of

her ass again or whatever It looks like a quick

strike Slides down it. I don't know though The

Transmetal one optimus and Megatron battle that

was awesome I don't care what you say about not

liking the toy Michael as far as the trans monkey

surfboard thing, but that's surfboard Battle

was awesome It's awesome. I don't care so much

about the surfboard, but it's it's fine And the

final note I have is fire in the hole At the

end fire in the hole when the base blows up You

didn't get it anyways, oh shut up Steve Christ

I didn't get it either. Yeah, he's asking which

hole. He said which one. He said there's a fire

in his hole. I suppose that depends on if you

had the burrito. Oh, god. Yeah. All right, Steve,

what do you got? Oh, we're ready then. First

of all, I like that Megatron put his face on

the planet, which I think gave him the idea for

these machines nevertheless, it was cool to see

him pick up everybody and Drop tarantulas as

well as the other Maximals heal his loyal Predacons

as well as optimus primal and brought them all

inside the alien ship and tarantulas, you know

Being the scumbag he is Signing with the Maximals

to get back at Megatron Megatron basically had

a moment similar to black arachneas on the floating

island Yeah, so that he could gain control of

the push -button chair You know Megatron was

thinking, you know, I really wish I had one of

these in my base I like where Megatron bit off

more than he could chew in the electrical Yeah

And then he got electrocuted and zapped across

the room, yeah But uh, yeah, everybody did have

a lot of good lines in a tarantulas Mocking the

Maximals primitive computers Or so he may think

Did you learn nothing From the alien disks Megatron

gives the alien disk a kiss for good luck when

he puts it into the control Hey, I got a question

I don't know if you guys have this in your notes

and now that you think now that you mentioned

that Steve though But wouldn't that technically

be a record player the way it looked like when

he put on the thing look like you put it on a

turntable You spin me right round, baby. Oh,

god. I think I have that song in my iTunes. I

may have to put a 30 -second clip of that in

this episode. You know, because all those cymbals,

those are the different songs it plays. Musical

is the last time the aliens were prepared to

blow up the entire planet to stop the Transformers.

This time they just send this little plant -based

thing, make a single attack, hoping to disable

them, and then Megatron steals it and then decides

he's going to take over Cybertron and kill the

Vok, which, why would they send something so

harmless after trying to exterminate the entire

planet? See I didn't take it that way I kind

of thought that This plant thing was there all

along kind of like Stonehenge and That they hadn't

actually you know just found it yet Well, it

didn't appear until after the little ship from

the sky kind of hit it The ship from the sky

yeah No, I mean, like I said, I think it was

there. It was just somewhere they couldn't see

it. Almost like the Golden Disk that Inferno

found. It was like, well, we just kind of got

a signal all of a sudden, and we went to go check

it out, and there it was. Whereas here, I don't

think that it appeared after the VOC tried to

blow up the planet. I think it was there all

along and they just kind of found it there. It

was kind of like, you know, just another symbol

on the golden disc that nobody knew about. It's

like, yes, we found the stone hedge. Yes, we

found the floating island. No, we haven't found

the plant thing yet. I would argue that, though,

because of the fact of... Tigatron says this

is the first time he's seen plant life since

since the alien Explosion thingamabob tried to

blow up the planet so I thought he meant since

they blew up the floating island No since they

tried to blow up the planet Because all the damage

that was done by the by the mass driver or whatever

the hell it's called. Yeah Buster thingy -ma

-jiggy. Yeah. Yeah. I still think that it may

have partially been there, but it partially was

not. They still had to send the beacon to reformat

it to that current form. You can't have it both

ways. Nope. I always used to think Rattrap stopped

the... The whole teleport and kind of caused

the thing to be destroyed, but I didn't realize

that tarantulas Hooked himself into the data

tracks and the transwarp cell triggering it to

basically get a virus in it to self -destruct

I Didn't pick up on that No, I thought that's

what Megatron did no Megatron meant to teleported

to Cybertron Rattrap destroyed the chair and

then all of a sudden you see tarantulas hooked

up into something while they're all fighting

and then all of a sudden tarantulas is Flooring

it out of there I Got you back see ya He's like

you see this go fuck yourself He's like this

is my plan all along yeah, yeah, this is I'm

the only one going home You're going to die here.

You know, because he was secretly conspiring

with another Predacon slash Decepticon agent.

Yes, that'll come up later. Yes, that's why I'm

not naming, even though it should be obvious.

Everybody knows. Yeah. Everybody knows. I like

when Primal has that line for Megatron, telling

Megatron not to teleport. And he says, their

power is beyond what you can imagine. You can't

control it. I am power. Yeah. The only issue

I had here was that at the end, the actual destruction

of the pod was not nearly as climatic as the

last alien visit. Well, the difference is that

this is our own. Well, no, well, yeah, I mean

that that's a difference but what I was gonna

say is the difference is is that this is not

a season ending episode this is just a two -parter

to further the continuity of a story so But yeah,

right. Yeah, despite the fact that it didn't

blow up real good I'm sure that there's gonna

be repercussions from the transwarp tunnel at

the end of the episode. Yeah We'll hear about

that Yeah And we're still left wondering what

happened to Tigertron and Airazor And I don't

remember exactly if at the end they went well

shit, you know, we got to find them No, they

didn't they said something about What happened

to you know, they're one where they are. I find

them. Yeah Yeah, but it's kind of like, you know

Transformers movies. Oh shit jazz died. Well

fuck. Okay. No, we didn't In the bay movie. Oh,

okay. I thought you're talking about the real

movie not the heavy eyeball rolling sigh Well

real movie not the not the crappy live -action

ones. Do you want a piece of me? No, I'll take

two jazz dies. Yes. Okay, I get it It's like

you keep hammering that nail in I get it. Oh

god I'm going to send you this pic and you're

going to share it. Oh, God. Here we go. More

fucking pic. It's part of God. It's something

to distract you. I'm not clicking on that. I'm

not clicking on that, you bastard. Oh, I make

myself giggle. Anyways, more on other voices.

Again, I keep calling other visits. Do we have

anything else on other visits? No Steve Steve

Steve has said goodnight for the evening I'll

edit part of this out. Okay. I wonder if that

means it stopped recording as well Well, it's

just the outro that we have to record then that's

it I'm trying to Leaving the recording on because

I want to know a great call fail. So you must

be offline Lovely freaking lovely. I don't want

to test it. Well, I don't have to edit I mean

I can edit it out of of the thing, but I don't

have to Yeah, whatever Steve Bastard Damn dirty

ape No, it's failing You gotta click on the hassle,

I assume that's funny. Oh, god damn it. You'll

enjoy it. You bastard. That's fucking wrong.

Fuck you. That's fucking wrong. That's gonna

be your background picture now. No, it's fucking

not. That's fucking wrong. Steve pick up okay

do we have anything else on other visits no okay

we are moving on you hear some quotes and then

the outro optimus primal how good to see you

awake I wouldn't want you to miss our voyage

home You're taking this thing back to Cybertron.

Yes. You can't. Who knows what the aliens might

do if they become aware of Cybertron. Let them.

In time, I will destroy them as I will your precious

Maximals and the Autobots too. The boss sure

thinks big. You're mad! Optimus Primal, maximize!

There is no heroic escape today, Primal. With

you and this weapon as trophies, the Predacon

Alliance will finally see that conquest of Cybertron

is the only true path! Maximals attacking! Better

cancel your appearance before the Alliance. Oh,

on the contrary. A few more captors can only

enhance it. Megatron, you can't win! We shall

see. Encage the Maximals at once! Your comrades

fight well. Yeah, well, you Preds give us plenty

of practice. Now quit your yacking and get inside!

The trap must be holding Optimus in the control

room. That way! Lead the way, and don't try anything...

Slag! So much for your Maximals. Now, to play

my final card. Yes. Lock in coordinates. Begin

teleport sequence. Hey, this is Cheetor, and

you're listening to the Beast Unleashed podcast,

Ultra Gear. This is quote number one. I come

in peace. You're about to leave in pieces. This

is quote number two. Well then, partner, let's

head him up and move him out. And quote number

three. Ant -Bot is a major sucker. You are joining

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