Avengers: Age of Ultron Review

Hi, this is Kyle Higgins and you're listening

to the Geek Patch Radio Network. You are now

on the inside of what I like to call the circle

of trust. We are all connected in a great circle

of life. You know something Bert? What? I think

you and I are going in circles. It feels like

we're going in circles. The Circle is now complete.

When I left you, I was but the learning. Now

I am the master. Because it's a circle. Yeah,

we heard about the circle. Yeah, that's what

the million would change. Hi, this is Chuck.

This is Greg. And this is Dan, and we are Talking

of Circles, brought to you by the Geekcast Radio

Network. The podcast that has no strings. I say

that today because we will be reviewing one of

the biggest movies of the year, actually probably

going to be ever as we get into the movie we've

been long anticipating, Avengers Age of Ultron.

We'll be talking great deals about that and if

you listen to our Daredevil episode we'll do

something similar to that where we'll have a

special spoiler free section and then we'll save

all the fun spoiler -ific stuff for the end.

But before we get to all that, how's the week

been going for you guys? Probably better than

yours down in Baltimore there. I Mean Orioles

lost today, but it wasn't that I mean, you know,

we'll get over it. I think Well, they they won

the game in front of the invisible fans Yeah,

it was like they were playing at the Marlin Stadium.

I Like the guy running around pretending to sign

fake autographs and stuff that was funny. Yeah.

Yeah, that was great Yeah, my week was pretty

boring. I did kind of have I got something funny

in the mail I got this random thing that was

like an advertisement card from Clorox. It was

for a special Clorox product called Clorox urine

remover. They're trying to tell you something

and I'm like, why are you sending me this? I'm

a 30 year old guy. Like I don't like I guess

they assume that we all have bad aim. I don't

know I just thought that was kind of weird that

they singled me out like that, but We know we

know we know it's okay, maybe there's some like,

you know cameras set up in the bathroom or something

I didn't know it was that big of a problem where

you have to make a special Clerox that is just

for urine. Yeah, yeah. Needless to say, so I

bought it and gave it yesterday. That works great.

Greg, how's your week been going? Boring, as

per usual, but hey, what you gonna do? It's better

than... than Baltimore. But in Baltimore, that

should be today's podcast. But didn't you get

your Marvel mail kit in the mail or whatever

they call it? Yes, I did get that in the mail.

I got not urine stuff in the mail. It was pretty

cool. I got the two weaker parts of the box where

they gave you a pin that had cap on it. And it

said, I think it said collector core or something

on it, which like, okay, I'm not into pins. So

whatever pins, not pens, by the way. And then

there was also a patch with Ultron on it that

was pretty cool, but I don't put patches on anything.

So that was kind of pointless for me. But then

they had the Hulkbuster Iron Man, which was the

coolest thing in the package. He is quite hefty

and large, but he is definitely the best part

of the box. Probably the best part of the movie

too, the Hulkbuster Iron Man. Is that a pop vinyl

figure, Greg? Yes, that is a pop vinyl figure.

And then Funko is also coming out with these

things called Dorbs. And they're like smaller,

supposed to be cutesier type of vinyl figure.

And it was an Ultron. He's kind of cool. He's

kind of tiny. I'm wondering how much they're

going to sell them for when they actually go

to market with Dorbs. The packaging, though,

is like a huge box for the small little guy inside.

So like, I never understood that with packaging.

But then the second best item was a shirt that

I wore to the movie, which had a kind of a box,

the old school boxing poster motif to it with

I had the Captain America version. There was

four different versions. I had the Captain America

version where it was Captain America versus Ultron.

No strings matched. And that shirt was pretty

cool. And I wore that to the premiere of Age

of Ultron, which I don't normally do. I don't

like wearing the shirts of the things that I'm

going to to the things. Like I won't go to a

Foo Fighters concert and wear a Foo Fighters

t -shirt. It just feels weird to me for some

reason. How do you know you're at the right event?

I guess so if I'm really really really stupid

that night for whatever reason. You just looked

down like where was I? That probably would have

been good when I went to the brew fest Did you

guys have anyone cosplay at your show at your

showing and he put you dressed up at all? Oh,

yeah Saw a couple people I saw one guy dressed

up as spider -man and I wanted to point out and

be like you are not in this movie Like what are

you doing? I predicted that on the last podcast

and then There was a I didn't see it personally,

but one of my friends that was with me I guess

was in the bathroom and he saw I think it was

Nick Fury and Thor in the bathroom. I was in

the bathroom at the same time as all of your

friends, totally not gay, and I did not see any

of them. I must have been focused on the task

at hand. I think he went before you, but he was

standing right next to Thor, and I said, you

should have looked over and said, nice hammer.

He thought that was funny that the ironic thing

is he's not many enough to lift it. So he has

to sit down He's not worthy maybe he needs an

elevator Good call, uh, yeah, I only had two

people Cosplay mine. I was like an 830 showing

and it was like then there was like four showings

at the time There's like an IMAX 3d other 3d

and then I went to the regular one. So we didn't

actually wasn't sold out But I had someone dressed

up as Thor, and it was actually a pretty solid

costume, and it was some girl dressed up as Quicksilver.

And I was at the concession stand there in front

of me. And after they walk away, the cashiers

are trying to talk about who that person was.

They're like, I think it's like Female Flash

or Lightning Girl. I'm like, I want to correct

them, but there's no way I can do that without

not looking like a dork. So I'm just going to

have to let it go. No. I'll have you know very

much that it's Quicksilver. You put your glasses

on and you're like Nice jacket you like that's

really quick silver. I'm not sure why you didn't

understand that. Yeah But besides the whole yeah

the whole Avengers thing for those that don't

know I do reside in Baltimore and if you don't

want to go in Baltimore I guess you don't own

a television or a newspaper. Maybe I don't know

it's kind of crazy, but it's been an it's been

an interesting week It's uh, it was crazy early

in the week on Tuesday I had to we had to go

down to mercy and it was like or eight and I

got out around like ten ish like after the curfew

was enacted and uh, It was so weird like walking

out in the streets and it was like no one there

It's like kind of it's like reminded me of like

28 days later and that scene was like walking

on the streets and it's like nothing It was just

it was really odd Uh, but you know, none of the

stuff has been in really my area, but it's been

it's been kind of It's been an eventful week

to say the least. So what about your job? Have

you had to deal with it while going? To work

or anything. No, I, uh, I work in like Columbia,

which is a completely different city. And I take

the subway, which goes around the city though.

My company does have an office in downtown and

they've been closed. They closed for a couple

of days. They went on what's called liberal liberal

leave, which is, uh, you can basically meaning

you don't have to show up. You just have to work

from home. So, okay. But, uh, yeah. I know people

who are like currently in school and if you're

in school and you're driving around you get like

a put a thing in your window in your car window

No, it's meaning like you have the authority

to be driving at night since you're going to

class But besides that, it was a tough decision,

right, this past week, because going to the Avengers

and watching the NFL draft, like two things I

really look forward to. I chose the Avengers,

but I did catch up a little bit with it. And

I'm kind of glad I chose the Avengers, because

it was just kind of by the book for the most

part, because there were some rumors of trading.

Like, you know, the Eagles were rumored to be

trading to try to get up Marriota, and they never

did. Rumors that the Cleveland was trying to

trade and you pick up Marriott a tube because

Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die So

they needed another one There was rumors that

Cleveland was gonna trade their whole team for

somebody anybody I was curious how you thought

your your dolphins did it in the trade by the

time? This is recorded the first three rounds

have have gone I don't know how many now to pick

up how many picks the Dolphins have but you've

been happy to check it Yeah, I'm pretty happy

with so far. I really like the guy that they

got the first round. They'd 14th pick. They've

got a Devante Parker out of Louisville the wide

receiver I was really happy with that pick because

we completely overhauled our right receiving

core this year and we we dumped three of our

old receivers and We acquired three more now

and somehow our receiving core is even better

than it was before so now they all they look

like geniuses now, so But I really really like

this guy. He's like six three, you know goes

up for the ball Strong guys good runner after

the catch and everything. So pretty excited about

him And then they picked up a I think they got

a defensive tackle in the second round which

was tonight So and then they don't they don't

pick for a while. I don't think they have a third

round pick but Nice. Yeah, the judge is the judge

of the ninth pick. I was kind of hoping that

like they get some they got an offensive lineman

eric uh flowers from miami which they need they

need on the offensive lineman but i was kind

of hoping amari cooper would be available but

the raiders had to draft him because they need

to ruin the life of another wide receiver uh

they couldn't hold off on doing that but uh you

know it's not a you know not the most uh a glamorous

pick but they definitely need a better offensive

line so and they drafted though i'm really happy

with their second round they traded up and got

the first round at pick of the second round and

got a Lynn and Collins which who I thought was

gonna go in the first round but He stayed on

the board, which was great. So you guys should

have got Odell Beckham's like half brother or

whatever he was Foster brother or whatever Dorial

green Beckham or something interesting Greg,

I don't know if you did you pay attention at

all to the draft if not that we can I didn't

pay attention because I don't watch the college

football, so I have no idea who's getting what

if that's a good choice or not. So you like the

Jets, so that's good. The Jets are terrible.

I do not like the Jets. But I guess one question

I had for you, Chuck, and then we can move on.

Looking at the top two picks, you have Winston

and you have Marriota. Do you have a prediction

on who you feel who's going to have the better

NFL career? Yeah, I definitely think Mariotta

I wasn't too crazy about either one of these

guys, but I like Mariotta's character a lot better

and I think he might be set up to succeed a little

bit better where he's at but Winston I just had

my doubts like obviously there's some character

issues there with the whole you know stealing

crabs and Jumping on tables and screaming at

people and yeah, not he stole the food Greg not

the you know, he didn't Yeah, not that I was

like, why do we want to like encourage getting

crabs? Like who wants to get a venereal disease?

Well, yeah, no one has to steal them cuz you

you know, you can't give them away. So But yeah,

he actually stole crab legs from a grocery store

last year When I worked at a grocery store, I

heard a story once of some lady in the seafood

department, well not a customer in the seafood

department was stuffing lobster tails down their

pants. Nice. That seems a little intense. Oh

yeah. the crab legs would have been better because

then whoever busted her it just would have been

hilarious and apparently it was a teacher at

a local high school as well nice nice but but

yeah uh check i have to kind of agree with you

like i don't know i don't i'm not a fan of james

winston he's certainly talented but he seems

kind of like a doofus when you're a quarterback

there's so much put on your shoulders and you

got so much pressure on you especially in a number

one pick pick and plus he's gone to tampa which

is not a great location for anyone really i mean

they They'll have good runs here and there I

mean the what the only good run was when they

had the notorious like the warren sap era when

they had that great defense I think mariotta

too it has his own questions like he doesn't

seem like the most accurate quarterback in the

world like he seems he's kind of the prototypical

like college quarterback that has whose Whose

athletic ability kind of allows him to get away

with a few things which I don't think will happen

in the nfl, but Think in the right system and

I don't know Tennessee. I don't know if that's

the right system. I think he I think for him

I bet you he really wish he was picked up by

Eagles or a Team he felt like would actually

use him appropriately But yeah, absolutely. We'll

see how it goes. We'll see how it goes But yeah,

it's like it's funny trying to explain to someone

who's not in the football over like who? You

know doesn't follow it like why you would watch

the nfl draft because you can't do it without

seeming like a crazy person It's like it's like

so they don't play any no, they don't play games

Uh, you know, they just they're just picking

names You had to be a hardcore fan to understand

I guess. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little weird speaking

of hardcore fans Hardcore fans were revolting

last week. This week's a celebration with adventures,

but last week there was well, I guess maybe Depending

on your fandom. Some people are celebrating some

people revolting, but we got our first image

of what the Joker will be looking like in the

Suicide Squad film, at least one image of what

he'll be looking like with Jared Leto in his

new role. And there's been a lot of debate about

this photo if you have not seen it. I doubt you

listened to this podcast because it was all over

the realm of geekdom. It doesn't have the iconic

white face, but that just could be for this one

photo. It does have the short green hair with

Infamous tattoos all over his body and like the

teeth from Josh from the James Bond movie from

the 1970s on in his mouth, but uh I'm curious

to hear what you guys thought of this new look

of Joker for at least for this photo Yeah, I've

already seen Marilyn Manson. I'm good. I lived

through it once. I don't need to see it again

He does he does have that like Marilyn Manson

like drugged out look to him a little bit Yeah,

I'm not impressed. I think they lobbed it over

the plate. Chuck, what were your initial impressions?

I just kind of like I clicked out and I was like,

oh, let's see what this and I was like, oh, that

sucks. Well, like, well, maybe next time. Like

I was disappointed, but I was kind of like I

kind of expected it, I guess, because like at

this point, everyone is trying to be so like.

I'm just trying to be so new age and so fresh

with stuff. It's just to the point where it's

almost annoying now because it's just Stuff gets

pulled out of left field and you're like, what

is that? Like I don't know. Yeah Yeah, it's just

trying to trying to modernize like all these

characters and though this one doesn't seem like

very modern It seems like you said like Marilyn

Manson circuit like late 1990s. Oh, yeah, so

I I don't know like I didn't hate it as much

as a lot of people I get like the complaints

like the one thing that I took out of it that

seemed rather Ridiculous was the damage tattoo

on his forehead. I'm like that seems kind of

Obsessive obsessive and doesn't seem like the

Joker cuz I feel like the Joker wouldn't I don't

know it seems like he would Not admit to that

like I don't know like it seems like he wouldn't

be someone who self prescribes himself as as

damaged he's you know some of the tattoos i thought

was okay like i didn't mind the one on his arm

that was like of the smiling face or something

like that like that seemed fine to me the ha

ha ha ones were a little much you know a little

much kind of seemed like a wrestling character

a little bit a tad though i i will say like i

think a good a good actor can can make it work

and i think jarrett little's from alisa i saw

is a good actor i don't know if they're official

photos but there are photos that are supposed

to show him like Without the tattoos or like

with more covered up and more of like the white

face which look a lot better So, I don't know

how that's how that's all gonna work. So I don't

think it's a total failure I do think though

that it it's not the direction that I would have

particularly chosen and I think it's kind of

a sign that DC is not Like they're just making

a lot of decisions where i'm like, I don't I

don't know like i'm like it does. I don't know

if it's gonna work but um I'd love to see them

go with like a Greg Capullo Batman Or Joker.

I mean look what kind of is that the one with

the face cut off or whatever? Well, not the face

cut off part, but a little bit more the newer

version That he's in now He looks a little bit

more like the old -school Joker that we know

But he's got his hair kind of cropped on the

side really close or even like shaved off where

it's just the top part and it's kind of uh pushed

back and greased down and he's he's kind of back

into he's wearing a little bit more of a um a

regular type of suit not really uh bombastic

with the colors or anything but just it's not

over the top at all i think it does it makes

you focus more on the crazier parts of him Yeah,

yeah, I kind of like my first impression after

seeing it was like I think that would work better

for like the Riddler Than it would for the Joker.

I don't know Maybe not maybe I could be wrong.

I just I guess I'm wondering like why when I

showed this to my wife She's like why are they

doing the Joker like like why would they do that?

Like they kind of already perfected the Joker

where I go again, but Did you guys hear the rumor

that uh Batman could possibly show up in the

Suicide Squad movie. I heard I did that like

Van Affleck showed up on set one day or something

like that Yeah, like I didn't look too much into

it, but I just kind of saw it and took it with

a grain of salt, but Well, yeah, I mean I think

they're gonna try to put Batman and he's gonna

be like the agent Coulson of all the DC movies

He's gonna show up in each one Which actually

wouldn't be the the worst idea if done right

it could actually kind of work but uh anything

else before we take a quick break yep i think

i'm good all righty so let's take a break here

and when we come back we'll be talking about

the big enchilada as we get into age of ultron

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We can tear them apart. From the inside. All

right, and welcome back. And like I mentioned,

we're gonna be getting into the age of Ultron,

and what we'll be doing is we'll be talking about

our general thoughts. So you haven't seen the

film. Thank you for that one person in Macra

who was not seen age of Ultron because I think

it's making what a trillion dollars a day at

this point But if you've not seen it, don't worry

What I'll be doing is after we end the show There'll

be a little bit of the end theme song and then

if you keep listening we'll get into the spoiler

section where we get into more the juicy details

and All the fun Easter eggs and stuff like that

that might actually spoil for those who have

not seen it. So as we focus into more of our

general thoughts, I guess Chuck, we will start

with you here. We've been talking about this

movie for quite a bit. We went over the trailers.

We've had all of our theories about what could

happen. You know, if this is going to be as good

as the other Avengers movies. A lot of anticipation,

a lot of build up. You know, we've been riding

a high for Marvel films. We've gotten Guardians

of the Galaxy. Winter Soldier, Daredevil. Considering

all that, a lot of pressure was put on Age of

Ultron. After you walked out of the theater,

what were your initial impressions? My initial

impressions were sort of mixed in a way. I was

really psyched about certain things. I loved

a lot of things in the movie. There were certain

things that stuck out to me that I couldn't quite

get over at the time, which is why... I want

to go back and watch it a second time. I haven't

gotten to yet, but I do plan on doing that maybe

later this weekend or next week or something.

But, um, I really, there's a lot of things I

liked. Like, like I mentioned, I thought it was

like paced out. Well, I thought like they mixed

the action and like the the other stuff very

well like the development of the team and stuff

like I heard someone phrase it like team building

exercises almost like sort of in between the

action but it was kind of cool like they you

know would have these intense action sequences

and then they would kind of go into something

that was a little bit slower but would kind of

build the plot a little bit and then jump back

into some more action. And I thought that was

mixed in pretty well instead of having like a

slow build and then one huge action scene. Like

I kind of prefer it this way. I like the way

they did that. I like a lot of the new characters.

I like Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. I like

the sort of the change that they underwent, the

story arc for those two characters. I really

like that. And I was really surprised by those

two actors, they did a lot better than I kind

of thought they would. Kind of creepy at times,

to be honest, like they seemed a little bit too

close for a brother and sister maybe, but maybe

that carried over from Godzilla because those

two played a husband and wife in that movie,

so I don't know. But I did like those two a lot.

Actually, that was pretty cool. And I enjoyed

sort of getting to know Hawkeye better. Each

each Avenger sort of got their time to shine

in this movie, but you start seeing some other

things about Hawkeye that we didn't realize and

So the reason they kind of did that too is because

he's not getting his own solo movie like some

of the others so These movies sort of give them

a chance to flesh him out a little bit more and

they they took advantage of that And they did

a pretty good job. I enjoyed it and I kind of

sort of made me like the character of Hawkeye

even more So that was really cool to see there's

a lot of other good things I liked about but

I'll just I'll save some for you guys, but I'll

just quickly mention it definitely had some like

plot holes in my opinion There were some things

that I didn't like I I liked Ultron for the most

part. I thought he was really cool I thought

spader was pretty awesome as his voice I did

kind of have a problem with I guess they sort

of Gave him like a sarcasm like a sense of humor

That didn't really work too well for me. I know

we could get into that more later and Sort of

why why he has that and stuff, but I I thought

they just they could have done it better Seemed

to like make him less intimidating less menacing

sort of as the evil evil robot should be I mean

I realized what they were trying to go for, which

like I said, we'll get into later, but I think

they could have done it another way and made

them work a little bit better. But just some

smaller things about his evil plan and stuff,

which we can't get into with the spoilers. But

overall, I really enjoyed the movie, though.

Greg, what were your initial impressions? I think

I'd go a little bit opposite of Chuck with how

Ultron was portrayed. I thought it was kind of

refreshing there was plot holes and things that

really didn't match up for me I'm not sure if

that's because I just missed some lines of dialogue

or if I'm just an idiot or what. But yes, I had

trouble with some of that kind of stuff. I did

enjoy a lot more attention on Hawkeye and I thought

they really brought the more street level characters

to life in this one. I think they did a lot more

with the street level characters, which I kind

of enjoyed. One of my favorite characters from

comics is Vision. I thought they did a pretty

decent job with Vision. I liked his attitude

and I wish there was more of him fighting. I

think we saw a lot of his fighting. I thought

his power set was kind of a mystery, and so was

Scarlet Witch's, but they kind of poked fun at

that a little bit at one point in the movie itself.

She just kind of does whatever. She does a lot

of weird shit or whatever they said exactly.

Overall, I enjoyed it. It's tough to compete

with the first movie, I think. I'm not quite

sure if it pulled it off. They started off with

the whole one -shot action scenario, which I

thought was pretty awesome. And they kept having

a bunch of those, which are kind of great. But

I felt like it was just too much. And then you

didn't have the great scene of them all coming.

Together for the first time that was only be

achieved once and they did that in the first

movies So it didn't have that quite that feel

so I feel bad Judging it as harshly as I could

But overall it was still a great movie I think

I don't think it was quite as good as the first

one, but I don't think it can be as good as the

first one that it would Yeah, it's it's definitely

challenging because it's you know there's nothing

like that your first time as I say but I would

say like my initial impression walking out maybe

this will come off as more harsh than I and I

intended to but it was a disappointment and that's

not necessarily because it wasn't as good as

the first Avengers looking back at like everything

Marvel has done since the Avengers I felt like

it didn't even hit those levels for me personally

like I like Winter Soldier a lot more like Guardians

a lot more Like Daredevil series a lot more and

you know I did I did enjoy it like the one word

that kind of comes to my mind when I Was watching

it was a mess like it was a mess because there

was a lot going on. It was a fun mess It was

an enjoyable mess. Mm -hmm. It was somewhat of

a controlled mess Like there were a lot of moving

pieces a lot of little So plots like you know

each character had their own little story But

it was it was kind of a little bit of a mess

in that end it kind of reminded me of like when

you want reading like an event comic and You

just stick with the major event storyline like

the the one that's like the the title book of

that story and You don't read any of the side

story. So everything kind of seems a little bit

rushed like there seems like to be story developments

that Could use a little bit more time, but you

don't get it and you're okay That must be in

the side that must be in a side issue or something

like that that kind of kind of the thing I got

because there are little things with like the

Hulk and you know Bruce Banner and Scarlet Witch

they're not Scarlet Witch but a black black widow

and We know Hawkeye, which I did like I agree.

I liked I liked how he I liked him in this movie

a lot more. I felt like he felt more part of

the team. I liked how they played on that aspect

of does he really belong with all these people.

I did like how the action set pieces were varied.

The first one was, you know, you know, sitting

in snow. Completely opposite of what we've seen

them so far, you know in the city landscape more

in the rural woods And I think that that was

cool little little touches here and there like

not to getting anything away but a specific moment

where Cap and Thor team up which I thought that

was a nice little touch and you know, we didn't

does have that ability to get those little like

uh, let's say gimmicks with the little gags here

and there that are that are really great, but

In a truck you kind of mentioned already though

and the one thing I think That bugs me sometimes

with Whedon the guy he knows how to write good

team dynamic like he knows how to do that but

on occasion he can just add a little more sense

of humor a little bit more quips in like witty

remarks and he really needs to at times I feel

like he overloads those things and I think he

took out he took a lot of those moments that

people loved in the first Avengers and tried

to Regurgitate them here and they weren't as

effective like in the green zucchini Yeah That

made me cringe But I mean I did have a lot of

fun with it I did overall enjoy it I just to

me like looking we can get into other you can

kind of get it look more of a retrospective later,

but I didn't have that Like a joyous experience.

I was hoping for and like you guys mentioned

it could be just because you're comparing it

to the first film Which I just remember being

one of the most fun times I've ever had at them

at the movies like the crowd was Chatting clapping

cheering and I know do you guys have a lot of

like fan or interaction in your in your? In your

screening this time around Well, it's it's a

small town kind of vibe here in Scranton with

the smaller theater So yeah, I don't think we

really got that much I got a little bit this

time like there is a specific moment near the

end where you think all is lost and then suddenly

You know as comic book movies often are You know

something happens and there is a big uproar there

like a lot of you know a lot of laughter but

I just not that like overall just joyous feeling

from the last one, but yeah, so So kind of regarding

the action of the film like how did you guys

like felt that was handled? And you don't have

to get in specifics of it spoiler spoiler ish

But what moments do you feel you know wore those

standouts for you that did give you? That phone

that you're hoping for anything kind of come

to mind For me, I think one of the one of my

favorite parts of this movie was watching cap

lead the team nice and it's Like honestly, like

I walked out of the theater and this is one of

the things that stuck out On the positive side

for me. I'm like it's it's truly a privilege

to watch him work as the leader of the Avengers

like You know, here's a guy that's like sort

of If you want to talk about strength and power

he's like he's outclassed by Hulk and Thor obviously

even Iron Man and stuff like that so but you

have a guy that has like sort of a beautiful

mind when it comes to like Tactics when it comes

to leading people placing people where they should

be in order to gain the victory. And I mean,

I really think they they did him like they wrote

him really well in this movie. They gave him

some great lines. Chris Evans did a great job

even down to like, you know, there's like this

one like actual like pep talk before they sort

of it kind of reminded me of the football team

running out on the field before the Super Bowl

or something like he's like he sort of gives

them. like a pep talk just to kind of bring everybody

back down to earth kind of everybody's like really

you know just amped up and like ready to go for

this final battle thing and he just kind of gives

them all a reminder of what they're fighting

for and what they're doing kind of brings everybody

you know back down to the ground it was just

amazing like maybe maybe not a lot of people

picked up on that but Something like me being

close to that character. That's something that

I picked up on and Realized like the time and

effort that they put into getting cap right in

this movie and I that's something I really appreciated

Greg did you feel the same way? Oh Yeah, I thought

they did a great job with cap as always along

the lines of favorite action scene or anything

like that Not really cuz the action scenes were

some of them were were long. They were enjoyable,

but they were just Long and I don't think there

was anything that really stuck out in My mind

as being my pivotal action piece. I did enjoy

Hawkeye's little pep talk with Scarlet witch

to kind of get her back in the game and everything

I thought that was really enjoyable with especially

with his arc through the entire story, but is

going to name a specific Action sequence. I die.

I can't really pick one out for it. I'm sorry.

That's fine I did it I didn't enjoy like like

you mentioned before Dan about the Sort of the

gags but like the the team ups yeah, I thought

some of those were done really well like with

it kind of reminded me of in a very vague way,

but it kind of reminded me of the Marvel Ultimate

Alliance 2 game where you could kind of mash

together two people's powers into like a combo

thing. And they like they sort of explored that

a little bit. I thought that was like really,

really cool. We have Thor and Cap teaming up

a couple of times in there. And I thought those

particular things were very cool. And also, I

think there's one point where Cap is for quite

a while. Cap is going. hand -to -hand against

Ultron for quite a while and He's definitely

holding his own, but it's like you know everything

that he can do to keep him occupied because like

you know he has such a Indestructible body and

everything like that so but I thought that those

things were done really well with and You know

kind of showing caps fighting prowess and everything

like that Yeah, yeah, I would agree. You know

what? I thought was kind of weird like Hulk was

like such a I guess standout in the last film

and I don't know for this one I he didn't seem

to Like have as because of role like he kind

of like obviously there's a specific sequence

I did really like the Hulkbuster sequence in

Africa. That was really great But one thing that

kind of stood out to me, too, was kind of thinking

about, you know, one complaint we had a lot with,

like, Man of Steel and a lot of people have was,

like, how you have these battles taking place

in the city. And what I found interesting about

the Marvel films is, like, how a great deal of

time and effort is put into seeing, showing,

like, the Avengers, like, helping civilians.

And, like, that's a, like, part of, like, that

is part of what they're doing, you know, that's

part of their tactics include that. It's a priority

for them. I think that's a good thing. A, it

adds more stakes to what's going on and it shows

that, you know, it's not destruction for drug

destruction's sake. Maybe it is for a certain

extent, but I think that's a good piece because

it does show them being heroic in that way. It

does, you know, there's that they understand

the idea of collateral damage. That's a good

point. The one specific part, too, in the Iron

Man and Hulk fight, you see them kind of heading

towards this building. And if you look quick,

they show Iron Man's perspective through his

helmet and everything. And if you look quick,

it says on there that it scanned the building

and there was no life forms detected. So that

goes along with what you're saying. So he realized

that it was safe to sort of carry the fight into

that building or crash into it or something.

So that was a cool little detail they threw in.

Definitely, definitely. And it is a little bit

like, you know, you could argue it's like G .I.

Joe in the 80s where, you know, a plane would

explode and you'd always see the guy parachute

out of the plane because no one could ever die.

But, you know, I think it at least shows that

they're paying attention to that type of stuff,

which is good. Unlike Superman who just blew

everything up. Yeah. Okay. And you mentioned

the Lulz though, and to me some of my favorite

parts were those when we're seeing them interact

as human beings. Think it was unfortunately ruined

a little bit in the trailer, but I still love

the sequence of them trying to pick up Thor's

hammer and like that like party sequence and

I love the idea that the fact that When they

have this like party in and caps or sorry Iron

Man's location that That you see a lot of like

World War two veterans and at first I'm like,

why would they do that? Why would they have a

lot of like were they doing some sort of ceremony

or something? Oh, no Yeah, I'm like, oh no, it's

caps friends. Obviously, you know, those are

people that he knows so my god That's that's

that's funny. I mean, I like to didn't even like

call attention to it It was just something that

was happening. So Let me ask you something Dan

also in that scene and quite a few other ones

There's quite a few cameos by players from the

single Marvel movies. There was war machine.

There was Sam Wilson the Falcon Showing up. Did

you feel like that was a bit overwhelming that

there were so many of them in there because I

felt like it was maybe a little bit overwhelming

like Holy crap, there's that guy over there.

There's this guy over here. There's this over

here. Oh my god There's this guy over here. There's

over here. There's over here. Like it was a lot

I didn't have an issue as much with like the

war machine and Sam Wilson's I felt like I okay

I know those guys are so it's more so when they

also introduced like a brand new character at

that same time like the Show character and I

felt like that was like I'm like wait that it

did seem Adding in those side characters and

then this other new person, too It did seem like

it was like, oh, okay. Hold on. Let me get my

bearings here for a moment Okay, so we got this

guy over here doing this thing and uh, so yeah,

that was kind of a challenge But that that didn't

bother me at all with the with the characters

from the solo films like I was trying to pick

out as many as I possibly could. I was like,

give me more. I was loving that particular part

of it. I've heard that I should call out Mike

Powers who does the off the cuff. I saw him on

Twitter mentioning that if you watched the last

shield episode that a lot of what happens being

a shield of this movie makes more sense. Chuck,

have you kept up with Agents of Shield? No, I

haven't been actually. I kind of was. getting

disappointed with it again because it was it

got good for a little bit um at the beginning

of season two and then it really started to go

down for me anyway so i kind of just quit watching

it yeah i've heard i heard that because it is

interesting when you think about how captain

america winter soldier ended and how this begins

like did that bother you at all because you do

have a pretty big chunk of like okay what happened

there but do you feel like there's enough to

kind of put the pieces together yourselves i

i thought there was plenty to to match it together

in your head because like they kind of they kind

of say like you know how they're rating a hydra

facility and they kind of state like well that

you know this is more heavily guarded than any

of the other ones that we've taken down so it

kind of makes you realize like after Winter Soldier

like what happened with like hydra infiltrating

and everything like to me like it wasn't hard

at all to sort of make that connection and they

sort of say it blatantly and I like how they

the fact they just picked it up opened it up

with an action scene um I thought that helped

it because it was kind of like it was kind of

like a seamless transition it's like okay this

is what they've been doing like not only at this

site but there are other sites similar to this

yeah it did uh i heard someone mention this i

forget who it was but they're like they reference

they felt like the beginning of that did feel

like an old gi joe movie or episode like the

just having the fort that you had to go through

with the protective layer that you had to get

you know come across and I guess one question

we kind of touched upon Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver,

and you know, I guess one of the debates that

might come up now is who had the better Quicksilver?

Do you guys think it was last year with Days

of Future Past or this year with Age of Ultron?

Days of Future Past. Yeah, I would have to agree

with that. Why would you go Days of Future Past?

I just don't feel like Age of Ultron did anything

interesting with the character. It kind of sucks

for them that Days of Future Past came first,

so maybe they had ideas like that, like there

was little elements of it, like Quicksilver punching

Cap and everything, slowing it down, but they

only did a little bit of it, maybe because they

did have that idea and then they saw Days of

Future... Days of future pastor were like, oh

shit. They did it. We should cut it a little

bit out So it doesn't look like we're stealing

from them or something, but it was just kind

of boring with a little bit of uh, like a little

Effect going behind them for the most part. How

did you what do you guys think of? Aaron Taylor

Johnson, do you feel like he was better than

this and then he was in Godzilla? I thought he

was better in this than in Godzilla to be quite

honest there I don't think there he there was

a lot for him to do in this really I thought

the accents were Interesting. I'm not sure if

they were good, but they definitely entertained

me So, yeah, and I thought Elizabeth Olsen was

a lot better than I was expecting. I still don't

think she visually makes a great Scarlet Witch.

I think acting -wise she did a really great job.

I don't think Elizabeth Olsen is that pretty

and whenever I think of Scarlet Witch, I think

she's smoking hot from how she's drawn in the

comics. I don't know. I think she looks fine.

uh uh whatever um i don't know why someone's

attractiveness should affect their well it's

it's just how i picture it from the comic books

to the movies you know what i mean like if you

picture like robert downey jr looks like iron

man so that kind of helps sell that character

to me elizabeth olson doesn't really look like

the scarlet witch at all to me um so it kind

of doesn't help her out Sell that character to

me if that makes any sense Feel it feel free

to disagree and we'll move on because I feel

like I'm Yeah, I can kind of see where you're

coming from I've had similar thoughts with people

but yeah, that's all I want is I want somebody

to just go I see what you're coming from. I mean

honestly I don't care if they're pretty or not.

I mean, but I know like that wasn't my point.

That wasn't my point It's just like the hotness

of that character Kind doesn't define that character,

but it definitely is what? Kind of made that

character for me if I'm being a sexist pig here

or not. I don't know. Yeah a little bit, but

you know I didn't think I did think air Taylor

Johnson did a really great job like much better

than I was anticipating to be honest and I know

they like they did play around a little bit with

his powers like there was a scene with Thor's

hammer that was kind of funny but like I kind

of wish they did more things from his perspective

because like after seeing like what he can do

in days of future past where they gave him that

whole scene where you see things from his perspective

like I guess that's just the advantage they have

of doing the character first, but I thought they

could have done some more things in Age of Ultron

where you see from his perspective because I

think it makes you appreciate his powers more

when you see that. Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree.

Like it didn't seem like you just saw the effects

of what he did. Almost like you see more interesting

things in the Flash TV show and how they use

his speed and things like that. Exactly. And

that it was just kind of just, you know, he's

moving really fast. I mean, this is definitely

a different take on him. These are two characters

that are coming from much more of a damaged past.

So cursed, they're not going to be as comic relief

as the last film. But I do think just overall,

he just was kind of there. I just remember Josh

Whedon saying things like, oh, like he really

wanted to get Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch because

like the Avengers that he had, like a lot of

their powers are very similar. It was a lot of

just punching and kicking. And I think, oh, great.

That would lead to a lot of different and unique.

things with these characters and It did to a

certain extent but not nearly as much. I still

think that they didn't really Expand upon like

the move set of the action as much as I thought

they would so but for for Elizabeth Olsen I I've

you know, I've had seen her in past movies like

she's been really good in mostly like any dramas

like marcy may martha marcy may marlene and a

lot of like smartphones i think she's a really

great actress going into this i didn't know how

she would work with scarlet witch because it's

a weird role and uh scarlet witch is such a hot

character right she's such an oddball of a person

but i thought she handled it well I really like

the sequence where we see or the the resulting

effects I would say that When she first like

say they want to get spoilers since we're not

there yet When we see her mind games taking shape

for the first time or I guess with most of the

characters I think that's when I like really

like some of those sequences and like the the

different ways that it affected different characters

except for Thor's I thought there was was kind

of I don't know what happened with with Thor's

with how that got resolved. That was weird I

guess that's something we can get a little bit

in more to spoilers But one thing that kind of

stuck out to me is like this one felt a lot like

set up for things to come in a lot of different

ways more so than the like the avengers felt

like the culminating moment last time like this

was it this is what it was all building for this

one feels more like the middle child where we're

like you have stuff from the last one kind of

kind of still you're looking forward to the next

one and it ends up kind of losing its like his

own identity a little bit and then james rhodes

is behind they're going marcia marcia marcia

i know that seemed unnecessary like i i don't

i didn't i didn't get that but How was how yeah

and you mentioned about the Like those sort of

mind game sequences with scarlet witch and stuff

and I thought at the very beginning those were

sort of weird because they like They should they

seem like horror movie ish. Yeah, like some of

the effects they did I thought came off really

weird like like things moved quickly like it

looked like the Looked like the movie real skipped

or something and things were moving like really

fast like a horror movie Yeah, like just like

a weird effect that I didn't think really fit

into the movie like I don't know Yeah, like her

first time you see her. It's almost like she

looks like the character from the ring or something

like that Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah Interesting

looking but it definitely didn't fit the movie.

I agree Yeah, like I'm glad they sort of like

they only did that once and then they kind of

like back off and took a little bit different

approach to it. But I think they definitely could

have done a better job explaining her powers

a little bit more or just explaining comics could

do a little bit better explaining her powers.

I still don't understand her powers. But like,

you know, I had some of my friends who aren't

quite as familiar with the Marvel Universe as

we are, at least the comic universe. And they

were like, like, what are her powers? Like, what

is that? red stuff, like, what is that all about?

It tells me, like, for the more, like, you know,

for the lay person, like, they really should

have explained it better, like, just take an

extra minute or something where they're kind

of talking about it, like, the Avengers get together

and kind of, you know, pull their intel and,

like, talk about it a little bit, something.

Because I think vision suffered from the same

thing later on, like, because people were, people

were sort of confused. Like that weren't comic

book fans. They're like, well, what is that?

Like, how did he just appear? And like, how did

he just change himself and everything? They didn't

even show much of his him fighting anyway. Right.

So people are like, OK, it's just this weird

guy now that they just they should have taken

a little bit of time to just flesh it out more

like just make the movie five minutes longer

and like address those things like I just don't

think. You know, they address it properly. Yeah,

I and I can completely agree Greg that like I

was looking forward to like some really great

moments with vision because his powers are so

great like the using the you know, the phasing

and stuff like that that could lead to a lot

of cool stuff and it Didn't really I don't know.

I don't know if they're trying to like save that

or you know what the thought process is, but

it just seemed for much of like the third act

he was kind of Gone like even now that final

sequence. He wasn't there. There was a lot of

characters They had so many characters that a

lot of characters went missing during certain

elements and it's like, okay Well, what about

this person they could do this and why does this

person have to? So it was yeah, it was kind of

weird Yeah that I mean that's the truth like

did you guys feel at all that there was too much

going on at all or? With all the characters and

all the different little bit. Yeah I don't really

get that feeling at all. I just wish that they

sort of explain certain things better to people.

Like, I was sort of connecting the dots on things,

but I could definitely tell where somebody that

hasn't read comics or anything would kind of

be like, wait, what? Because there's like 10

things going on right now. I could definitely

see how people would think that. But I think

a way they could tie in the characters better,

like instead of having one just Completely missing

from scenes like maybe just kind of tossed them

in the background. So you kind of see that they're

there Yeah, but they're obviously not the focus

of the scene Like, you know, maybe you have an

important moment going on between two or three

characters but you know in the background you

see like cap shield fly by or like Hulk run by

or something like I do think was kind of smart

worth Except for like the last sequence where

you had a lot of sequences up to that where like

you like you mentioned the one with cap and Ultron

where it was just one or two Avengers that you

that were in Taking place or if the focus of

the action which I think helped like in those

sequences why I think I'm probably my favorite

part was the Iron Man Hulk throwdown because

it was it was a little bit more contained and

it like You just had that you didn't have to

worry about 14 other characters and what they

were going through but and plus I just love the

I love the action sequences during the day and

I thought that looked kind of cool in the the

veronica suit That that is it still looks really

cool. Yeah But all right anything else on general

thoughts at all I guess the question becomes

because you got to rank things that you like

that goes and it's quite difficult to rank all

the Marvel movies at this time But looking back

at phase, this is what phase two still so you

have Iron Man 3 Guardians Winter Soldier and

then this that seems is that it I guess or chase.

Oh Yeah, Thor 2 and then this you know, where

do you feel like each of Ultron falls falls into

that or if you want to? include the other Marvel

movies as well I guess like as far as phase two

I know like their their method is like each time

an Avengers movie comes that's like the end of

a phase so we're from now you know this day for

they're starting phase three but with the phase

two ones I think I would probably still go like

Cap Winter Soldier Guardians and then this probably

third and maybe Thor 2 after that and Iron Man

3 last because I don't like that one. But yeah,

I really enjoyed it. But I think Guardians and

Winter Soldier were much more well crafted as

far as the plot and like things tying together

and being thought out and everything. This was

definitely a fun ride that I don't want to take

anything away from that. Greg, what do you think?

I would go Guardians, Winter Soldier, Age of

Ultron, Thor 2, and then Iron Man 3. Interesting,

interesting. The Iron Man 3's ending, well, second

half of that movie, kind of. See, I would, I

go Winter Soldier first and Guardians too. I

feel like those are... Usually the best of the

two. I think guardians handles the team might

dynamic a little bit better and it's comedy I

think is better Spaced out I would say after

that it gets a little bit harder for me. I actually

I know a lot of people hate Iron Man 3 I guess

you guys as much or didn't select it. I actually

like Iron Man 3 a lot So I'd probably would go

Winter Soldier Guardians Iron Man 3 Age of Ultron

and probably Thor 2 would be mine Would be my

ranking Do you guys overall think phase two compared

to phase one has been an improvement? Yeah, I

would say so I'll go with that too without any

explanation as well. I think like I think just

because In my personal opinion, I think cap winter

soldier was better than the first cap. Yeah,

just a little bit and I think Think Thor 2 maybe

was a little bit better than the first Thor.

Yeah, and Like obviously the first Avengers I

still think is ahead of this one But um, but

you throw in Guardians as the wild card Guardians

was so well done. Yeah, I think this phase was

better Yeah, I think that is the that's like

the you know, the special teams player that makes

it all work wild I'm interested in seeing how

phase three goes It's gonna be interesting at

times almost a lot like it might have been better

if they made this movie into two movies in some

ways But that might have been too much. So one

thing that I was talking about with one of my

work friends was the The the very title that

they gave this movie was kind of a poor choice

In our opinions because it's like when you when

you say the age of something You're like you're

suggesting that it was a long period of time

Okay, not that like okay, it should have been

probably called like avengers the brief encounter

with ultron It's like you're talking like a span

of like three or four days or something if that

even it might have been like two or three days,

but um Well, they're on that farm for a while.

So Yeah, that was that was teenage mutant ninja

turtle kind of vibe there. Yeah, they were on

that farm for like at least like five hours definitely

but yeah i just thought that was weird like maybe

the title could have been a little bit better

because like you're expecting like this this

awesome villain because it's like wow age of

ultron like this guy must be really powerful

like you know he does a lot of damage and it's

like nope not so much yeah all righty so That

was it for our general thoughts on Age of Ultron,

and like I mentioned, I'll be putting on the

end of the episode more of our spoilerific thoughts,

more details, so make sure to stay tuned and

you'll be able to listen to that. But before

we go, we like to end each episode with a letter,

and I do have one for this week, and I just hope

you will bear with me as I go over this real

quick. Sally, not far removed from the devastating

earthquake in Nepal, we in Baltimore are suffering

from a self -inflicted wound. A wound that has

long been festering but now has opened up to

the recent events. Perhaps if we paid as much

attention to those that attempt to improve our

communities as we do to those that destroy them,

we could have addressed some of these issues

long before they reached their boiling points.

There's no question that the action of those

who rioted were in the wrong. Destroying communities

is cowardly and it does far more to hurt you

than help your cause. When I saw the city that

I called home for the last eight years on national

TV burning, my only emotions were anger and rage.

The issue becomes is when we stop at those emotions

and never investigate these situations with a

sense of tempered logic. The anger that was expressed

both peacefully and non -peacefully comes from

systemic issues that are complicated, rampant,

and criminally ignored. These communities suffer

from much including failing schools, destroying

infrastructure, broken promises from a multitude

of politicians and police officers who are forced

to follow Idiotic orders that place more credence

on pointless arrests than actually serving the

community. It worries me greatly when we pass

judgment without asking questions. When people

who never spent a day living outside their small

communities are unable to recognize that maybe,

just maybe, there's a situation out there they

can't fully understand. That simple answer is

like, get a job, don't solve complex problems.

The riots in Baltimore are more about one man,

they're more about one issue, they're more about

one situation. They're not limited to political

parties, economic barriers, or city boundaries.

These are issues that are universal and ones

that are bare talking about. I personally find

solace in the fact that those who have long been

attempting to mend the wound of Baltimore will

continue to fight harder for a city that's far

more than these actions. Even the chaos of the

riots we saw men and women fill the streets of

Baltimore calling for peace. And even though

many of those cries fell down deaf ears, their

actions speak volumes. The police officers, firefighters,

protesters, teachers, doctors, nurses, students,

community organizers, religious leaders, and

citizens whose focus is on making a situation

better than the way it founded is what the city

is truly about. As the riots subside and the

used cameras dissipate, it will be them tending

to the wound once more. We shall not be defined

by our worst moments, but the way we continue

to fight to pick up the pieces. Despite these

events, Baltimore will forever be full of charm.

Sincerely, me. I tried to stay out of politics

as much as that was I could with that. But uh,

I had to say something You know, I do live in

Baltimore and uh, you know, it's I'm hopefully

as I'm writing this things aren't on fire I have

not turned on the news. So I don't know but we'll

see how it goes. It's been peaceful so far I

just want the older I just want to get get the

back to the fact that you know I can go see the

Orioles playing Canyon yards again. They've not

been here for a while. Yeah But uh, anyways anything

else before we uh, we bring this episode to a

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next week. I don't think anyone would ever make

a statue for Aaron Hickman Johnson. They will

at the MILF Academy because my wife is way older

than Aaron. It is very weird and awkward. If

someone did ever make a statue of him, Godzilla

would try very hard not to knock it over. Please

step around, Godzilla. Thank you very much. I

very much appreciate it. And it would show as

much as motion as he does. That's also very true.

I had my emotions taken out of me and we've actually

had them installed in Ultron. Does explain the

lack of personality for sure. If you're still

listening, that means you've seen Age of Ultron,

because we're going to get more into the mini

-gritty details, so we're going to spoil the

hell out of it. So you've not seen it, you don't

want to spoil it for you, stop listening, save

this, and come back to it at a later time. But

there's kind of a lot to go over, and I think

a good spot would maybe be... the way it ended.

And I guess I should probably start with you

here, Chuck. What were your feelings on the little

stinger we got at the closing of the credits

for Age of Ultron? Best scene in the entire movie.

I saw that and I was like, holy shit. Like, that's

awesome. That just got me totally pumped, like

walking out of there. Because, I mean, obviously

we knew they were doing a mid credit scene. And

I just I wasn't sure what it was gonna be I don't

know if it was gonna be something with spider

-man or ant -man or you know even Black Panther

because they mentioned Wakanda in the actual

movie which was pretty awesome in and of itself,

but So I've started kind of swirling around I'm

like, what's it gonna be? Like there's so many

options. There's so many things they can do even

they can bring up dr. Strange or something and

Just to show Thanos again and set that up even

further. That was That was a great choice, I

thought, because a lot of people are still like

wondering about this guy. And I think a lot of

people are actually getting impatient, too, because

they're like, we've literally had like 10 Marvel

movies and the guy doesn't have one stone yet.

So just kidney stones. There's there's actually

a Twitter feed donated or. specifically set out

for this I think it's like at lonely Thanos or

something like that like it talks about how it

has no stones and everything it's kind of funny

but it's gonna start a Kickstarter to get the

get the stones yeah maybe we could get him one

of those styrofoam ones from comic -con or something

but Yeah, I thought that was that was a really

awesome choice to put that in there because For

the people that were getting impatient and everything

like who is this guy? Why is he just sitting

on his ass and not doing anything? It was a little

bit of a shot in the arm to like, okay, just

sit tight because he's coming like he's You know

coming all over the place with his non -existent

I'll do it myself. So it's like alright now you

can kind of You can kind of rest easy like it's

it's it's coming sooner rather than later. I

guess even though it's three years away That's

kind of funny the next movie I swear the next

I'll do it myself in three years What did you

did you enjoy Greg? I did I always enjoy seeing

Thanos on the screen Definitely creepy voice.

It definitely pissed me off when the guy behind

us goes, who's that? And then somebody goes,

oh, that's Thanos. Oh, my god. That was that.

And when vision came on screen for the first

time, the guy goes, who's that? I seriously wanted

to go, behold, the vision from his cover, first

cover he was on. Like, yeah, it would have been

awesome. Does seriously bother me when people

say Thanos cuz I'm like really I'm like you don't

see Captain America Like some people do I did

like it in what I was when he said I'll do it

myself the like the first thing that came to

my mind was Was he responsible for Ultron being

created? because you know you see in the movie

where like Tony Stark leaves he's like, oh, we're

not nowhere close to it and suddenly it changes

and even they even to call it out again We was

like we weren't even close to it. We weren't

even there Is it do you think we'll find out

that Thanos was partially responsible for creating

Ultron? yeah, I think I think the the artificial

intelligence that ended up becoming Ultron was

sort of a Sort of a failsafe almost a guardian

for the mind gem. Yeah, in my opinion like I

think it was meant to sort of be like almost

like a I guess a landing party maybe you could

call it to sort of take out some things like

whatever Thanos is gonna be trying to conquer

like maybe this origin horse This would sort

of come out. Yeah sort of come about to try to

clear the way so he wouldn't have as much dirty

work when he does get there Obviously, it didn't

work and the Avengers defeated Ultron. So he's

kind of just like, all right. Well, I'll just

do it myself. It's not the big of a deal Yeah

When that reveal happened, I know we talked about

it previously that if sat at the slow lucky staff

was a Was a gem or not? Did that surprise you

at all that they went there or did what was it

kind of like? Oh, of course. That's where they're

going It didn't really surprise me too much because

I like I know we talked about it. What was it

like last? Last year last fall or something like

that. Yeah, I think we talked about guardians.

I believe yeah and I I had initially had a problem

with what they were doing with the scepter and

I didn't think it was a Infinity stone at first

because of a couple reasons one the color Which

and this one I was kind of disappointed that

they just went like oh, yeah, it's yellow on

the inside Yellow filling Is that the right color

for the gem in the comic or no? No, it's it's

a little different I think it was orange in the

comics, but they did change them a couple times

though So it kind of doesn't matter at this point

what color they are. Yeah, but um, and I'd also

like What was uh, there was another reason that

I didn't particularly think it was because I

know the color they were sticking with the color

theme and It didn't make sense to me that they

had two blue ones and stuff like that. But the

other thing that didn't make sense to me at the

time of Guardians was, or even at the end of

the first Avengers was, okay, why would Thanos

gamble with one Infinity Gem to get another one?

He would think he would keep that one for himself

and use it to gain another one. To me, he was

really... He was really playing a game, but they're

giving it to Loki and potentially losing it So

I didn't think that that would fit that well

but you know, I obviously I stand corrected when

when this happened and I kind of thinking about

it over the last few months I'm like, you know

what? It's it's got to be the mind gem because

of the way it was controlling people's minds

and everything like that But I was just curious

how they were gonna do it with the color and

everything and you know Lo and behold they just

kind of the thing breaks open. It's like oh,

it's yellow inside. So if you all What did you

think about that correct? How did you feel about

them using like bringing any infinity stone into

this based upon the staff Yeah, it didn't bother

me. I didn't see a problem with it. Yeah. Well,

I guess I did have a question for you Greg and

Knowing that you're a big fan of vision What

was your opinion on the way they like handled

his creation in that sense? It is a little it

is very different than the actual comic. I enjoy

the character, but I really don't know his origins

too. Well, oddly enough. So would somebody like

to fill me in? Well, he was created by Ultron

to be his ultimate weapon, which is kind of what

happened here. But he starts off as a villain

and like he consciously makes a decision to turn

on Ultron in this it was you know he was with

them from the start he was with them from the

start and you know being based with Jarvis obviously

he was kind of his found foundation and which

i think it was an interesting choice but i i

was just wondering if like the fact that like

it wasn't him choosing like it wasn't like a

choice it wasn't like a decision that like he

changed his mind based upon what he saw, but

it was more like that was what he was like from

the beginning. I was wondering if that bothered

you since that's kind of a key element of that

character. Not really, because at the end of

it, it was still a vision like character. It

still held beliefs that were close to the to

the comics, if you ask me. So it didn't really

bother me that much. Do you like the what you

think of the look of vision little weird? Paul

Bettany's face doesn't really say vision to me,

but Yeah, there's more of it. There's definitely

more of like a Expression there than you would

expect. Yeah and His face just looks weird as

the vision for some reason I found the color

scheme weird, but it was still acceptable my

Bigger beef is the um That they didn't really

show his power set too. Well, yeah That was that

was disappointing. I was hoping like you see

him get there and he like he turns off ultron

like I didn't really Completely, I guess maybe

like just the his actions his wi -fi. Maybe is

that what he took off? I guess Yeah, I guess

I guess because he had the mind gem. It was just

sort of uh invading ultrons artificial mind sort

of altering it but That was an interesting choice

of having him having the gem on Visions head

be the mind gem. I mean that I I thought that

made perfect sense to me yeah, and like I I did

like I mentioned like earlier in the show like

I think they should have they should have explained

his powers a little bit more and stuff, but Like

I think it made a lot of sense to to put the

mind gem there because it's sort of It's sort

of an ambiguous thing to begin with. So I guess

you can kind of be like, all right Well, he gets

most of his like, you know, that's a that's actually

a part of his consciousness like the mind gem

and it's kind of an amalgam of that and Ultron

and Jarvis like all into one but um, I think

I think also like The I think the mind gem is

a lot of the reason that he could pick up Thor's

hammer Yeah, I was actually gonna ask you guys

that like how you felt about him being able to

pick up for his hammer like at first I was totally

Taken aback by that cuz I'm like, whoa, wait

a second. I'm like cap definitely should have

been able to pick it up caps I agree that caps

should have been able to pick it up as well he's

done it in the comics and everything but the

more I thought about it was like well, you know

what vision has the mind gem and like in my mind

like I would think that the mind gem by itself

would be good, but if it were in the hands of

someone using it for evil, that's when it would

be bad. So I'm just making sense in my own head

of it. I was kind of thinking, okay, so the mind

gem is probably good to begin with. It's just

the mind gem. So the purity would make sense

to me that he would be able to pick up the hammer

because there's nothing inherently evil with

like vision, like it's just sort of based on,

you know, Jarvis, which Tony Stark designed and

everything. So. Well, here's here's my take on

it. Vision is like a brand new creature. It's

kind of like a baby, essentially. It was born

yesterday. So babies are innocent. So it's kind

of a clean slate. So why wouldn't it be able

to pick up? It doesn't really have anything.

Bad going against it in the first place here,

which makes me want to see a baby pick up Thor's

hammer It's interesting because I feel like we

all had different reasoning for like why he could

do it, which is kind of cool But uh, my thought

was more so since like Thor helped create him

like he brought him to life with majority Mjolnir

Mjolnir Mjolnir that Like because of that like

that allowed him to pick it up since that's where

he was it was almost like he was a part of that

I didn't think of that actually, but yeah Which

at first when I thought Thor landed there, I

thought he was destroying like Ultron and that's

what he was trying to do He he Frankensteined

him and brought him to life Yeah, that's what

I thought too. But I also see also like caps

explanation at the end where like, you know,

he's a machine so Like, you know, technically

if you put Thor's hammer in an elevator, it's

lifting it up. The elevator is not worthy You

know what I mean, but it's doing it because it's

a machine But wouldn't that mean Ultron could

pick it up too? You would think but he didn't

try to though, right? I thought he I thought

he caught it once I could be wrong. I could remember

I think he was like he was twisting forms up

arm and forward dropped it or whatever on the

ground, but yeah That's interesting. Yeah, but

one thing I want to go back and vision was like

the when he first came out of that little chamber

thing that he generated and His whole body at

first was like red, kind of red with like silver

trim. And then he kind of like... First of all,

I don't know how the hell he can fly all of a

sudden. Like, at least with Ultron, they were

showing the little jet propulsion things out

of his back and his feet and everything, sort

of like the Iron Man suit. But somehow, magically,

Vision couldn't come out and fly on his own without

any of that stuff. But not only that, but he

sort of... his body just starts like changing

automatically and it turns to like mostly green

and Then he sort of looks at Thor's cape and

he's like, oh, I like that and he just like grows

his own cape Like what the hell was that? Like,

I don't know. Yeah, it was a little weird to

me Like I thought they could have done a better

job at that But yeah, I was I was hoping waiting

for like a piece of dialogue which were would

have been like, you know, I you know trying to

take that from from him, but it Guess the defying

thing didn't bother me because I figured since

it was Jarvis and he has experience with the

Iron Man stuff I didn't I didn't think about

that, but right, but how can he fly though? You

know what I mean? Like oh, yeah, that's how is

he actually hovering in the air like This Thor

technically can't fly only if he throws his hammer

and he hangs on to it. Yeah, you know, but That's

a good point yes Tinkerbell come over the top

of them sprinkle a little fairy dust and he's

good to go. Hey, yeah He thought happy thoughts.

That's why he can lift up the hammer. He has

a little fission dust. We didn't talk about Ultron

a lot and then general thoughts, but I know,

Chalky, you mentioned like... like one of your

issues was like how he had like a sense of humor

that seemed a little bit like out of place and

The and I wanted it I didn't want to talk about

it in the general thoughts because I thought

it was kind of spoilerish Yeah, the one the one

spot I felt like that was really true was with

the guy with any circus and playing the claw

His name yeah, and he cuts off his arm and like

his reaction to that. I yeah, it was funny, but

it felt I don't know, it just felt really clunky.

It felt forced, like they were trying too hard

to be funny there. I don't know if there's anything

else about Ultron you wanted to talk about. Well,

I think Ultron had that humor because he was

kind of being based off of Tony Stark and everything.

Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, I mean, I understand

that's what they're trying to do, but I don't

think it worked though. Like I don't think you

need that to make it work because like Ultron's

like a Cold menacing like robot, you know, that

doesn't make it interesting for the movie though.

I think that would I think it would have I think

it would have made it better because it's like

it's terrifying and Terrifying is what they were

going for with James Spader's voice and the things

that he was saying and It's terrifying in himself.

I think he would have been more in terrifying

if they just got James Spader You are now on

the blacklist I've mixed feelings for it cuz

like I do think that You know the sense of humor

helps but and that one didn't mind I didn't mind

as much it kind of just took out to me It was

more so like the one that kind of felt like I

don't know about that was when he's flying the

Quinjet and like the Hulk comes and he like jumps

into it and like he gets like he like he's like

whimpering you know uh with the Hulk it felt

like it was it I get what they're going for there

but it felt like they were trying to do the the

low -key moment again like the going back to

like we didn't try to do like we do like standout

moments and it didn't work as well for me because

one we didn't see it happening which is you know

interesting choice but I wouldn't take away the

humor completely. I just thought there a specific

moment which really could have dialed it back

Just just a tad. Yeah Even like the the comment

about the omelet like I thought that was good

that was that was something that he would say

like it's like a It's like a mildly sarcastic

thing like, you know, obviously you've never

made an omelet But like when I look at like Dan,

you mentioned the the thing when he cuts off

Ulysses claws arm and he's you know, his reaction

is oh, I'm so sorry like, you know and like that

was too much and even like the the first time

that they sort of did it which was really like

lucky left me with a bad taste the first time

where that that girl I can't remember a name

but the one that would like invented that tissue

chamber thing show yeah, yeah Who maybe is Amadeus

chose mother maybe possibly that's what I was

Was curious about that as well. I thought there

might have been a connection or something but

like when she could I don't know if it was her

or if it was Scarlet witch or somebody said like

you're gonna kill the Avengers or something and

he's like I'm gonna he's like I'm gonna save

humanity, but yeah and I was like that was like

That was the start of it for me. I'm like, okay,

so they're going this way with the character

like he's he's trying to be like cocky almost

like it's it just didn't fit the description

of an artificial intelligence to me like i don't

know maybe it's just my my take on it like from

what i've seen but it's it's certainly different

it kind of reminds me of going back to like uh

we talked about daredevil and how vincent and

afrio certainly took the the character of daredevil

or not daredevil he took the character daredevil

no he took the character of the kingpin and kind

of did his own thing with it and i felt like

it was a combination of like we didn't the 20

star character and like james baiter and like

this that kind of like twisted sense of humor

he has and a little bit so i think like i said

at times it didn't bother me there were just

those few moments i'm like i don't know if you

need it and it and i don't know if it necessarily

was the fact that it was ultron doing it if it

was more so the fact that i felt like every character

Was like that at one point or another and I don't

and I'm not against that I think there were I

just don't think there were like the as great

of moments because I'm thinking about the the

first Avengers right in the Galaga moment and

I thought that was hilarious and Chris Evans

with the you know, I got that reference and they

tried some of that stuff here I'm like, you know

with the beginning having the running joke of

the language joke going throughout nowhere Which

I get it and it was interesting enough, but I

just don't think it was as as strong as some

of the other humor in the first one Oh Ultron's

ultimate plan How do you guys feel about like

that like it you just basically think I want

like creating a meteor to kind of destroy With

vibranium just destroy the earth. I was curious

like how you felt that worked out It was fine

We got an army now we've got a meteor coming

down it was I don't know Six one half a dozen

of the other to be quite honest with that. I

think yeah What were your thoughts on that Chuck?

Honestly, I thought I thought his master plan

seemed oddly simplistic Frankly like poorly thought

out for like a super intelligent robot. Yeah,

I'm like Trying to crash a giant chunk of landmass

into the earth like it it seemed far -fetched

for even this movie Yeah, it's like how did you

build these giant thrusters to to lift this piece

of like? This piece of land like it was pretty

it just reminded me. I'm like am I watching Superman

returns? It's like kryptonite things growing

out of the bottom of it. I don't know. But like

to me, it would have made more sense for like

Ultron's potential was like so much greater.

Like it would have made more sense for them to

go in other directions. Like you could do things

like you could collapse economies. You can shut

down nuclear power plants. You could cause explosions

all around the world. Like he could potentially

like cripple the entire earth in the matter of

a day. with like the things that he's connected

to like connecting to basically our internet

and all of our systems and everything but like

his efforts are kind of wasted on like hoisting

this giant mountain in the air and Not only that

which was a big enough thing for me but also

like putting all his eggs in one basket and Sort

of making it easy for the Avengers to destroy

all of his copies like the first thing I would

have done like if I were Ultron is like hide

like a bunch of Ultrons all throughout the world

and just kind of keep them there for a rainy

day. Because like if the Avengers don't know

they're there, he's already got like a sleeper

body that's kind of waiting to come back. You

know what I mean? Like he really put all of his

copies, all of his eggs into one basket. And

I thought that was like sort of oddly convenient

and didn't make much sense to me. I don't know.

It I know it I get it's challenging because like

you You know, you can't you're probably not gonna

go back to Ultron for another villain so you

you have to make it so it's like you know, this

is it like you kind of have a completion you

feel like you've defeated the character and It's

just like creating a full floating island. I

thought visually it was interesting at times

like When I talked about in the general when

there's like the daisy daisy x machina of like

nick fury showing up the helicarrier that felt

like one of those moments in a comic where you

would have the side comic that kind of gets into

that and explains it and doesn't so it doesn't

seem like a like a cheat to get out of a really

difficult situation but you know it it's kind

of it is very comic booky in that way where you

have that like out of nowhere rescue but i don't

know like you said chuck it didn't seem it didn't

to me have much of a There's a lot of unfulfilled

potential sort of yeah, there's lack of logic

I would say yeah, though I I wonder if I think

kind of with the floating island if that's gonna

be like a lead -in to like Avalon for the inhumans,

you know and How like they you know, they eventually

have the floating city above New York if that's

some some route they end up going That's like

a lead -in to that potentially, you know, they

tend to they know build things up here and there

so I think a cool angle for them to go is if

he's shutting down things all over the world

that he's connected to. They mentioned he was

going after the nuclear launch codes, but Jarvis

was buried deep into the internet and he kept

changing the codes and everything. They did address

that, but there's so many other things he could

do to collapse economies and literally plunge

us into a dark age sort of thing that would be

an age of Ultron. I think that would have been

cool because there would have been opportunities

for... The team to sort of break up into smaller

teams and go to different parts of the world

to like To solve these issues or something. I

think maybe that could have been a Possibly a

cool aspect to go like cool way to go. I Get

I get that I could see that it's interesting

because it does seem like at the end of this

movie that the team has certainly shifted because

there's a little bit of a You know, we come to

the Avengers and it's like new Avengers training

facility, which I don't know if that's like a

supposed to be a hint of something. But my other

question for you guys is, do you guys actually

think that Quicksilver is really dead? I do not.

Agreed. I just think. Well, the obvious the obvious

reason is that Aaron Taylor Johnson signed on

for more than just one film. Well, there you

go. But other than that. the fact that they didn't

address his passing at all, like they didn't

acknowledge it at all. Yeah. Hawkeye sort of

carries him onto that, uh, helicarrier boat thing,

but they didn't, you know, you didn't see Cap

talking about it. Like, you know, Cap would be

broken up like something like that. Like we lost

a warrior today, like someone that fought alongside

us bravely, like there was zero mention of it

at all. It was just left it totally wide open

for you to kind of wonder but I mean honestly

like they still have that chamber thing that

they use for tissue regeneration and and they

mentioned that he has an accelerated metabolism

sort of like something similar to the flash or

Yeah, you know like if he has a broken arm it

heals in like three hours or whatever. So I Definitely

think he's still alive. They could bring him

back with those things Do you guys think that

Wanda and we'll find out that Wanda and him were

actually inhumans? Well, they did say enhanced.

They didn't say mutant or anything. Enhance.

Enhance. Well, one thing I found out, which was

I didn't realize this, but apparently they sort

of... They combined Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch

with like... Baron Strucker's children from the

comics. Yeah, yeah and like cuz he like sort

of experimented on them to give them powers and

I never like knew that that part of it like the

Fenris twins they called them. Yeah, so I Don't

know I get I don't know if they're gonna call

them on inhumans like if he experimented on or

maybe that's what they're gonna say an inhuman

is you know, just somebody that was experimented

on with Infinity gems or something. I don't know

Yeah, I was I was wondering like how they would

bring out I don't think he's dead either like

you said he signed on for more and once they

like they throw in that and enhanced metabolism,

it just feels like it's a key that you know that

there's more to it, but you you uh There you

mentioned like the how that's like kind of an

Easter egg tying into You know past comics there

were actually were were a few things that we

can maybe go over real quick We you know with

uh, you know agent with ultron's date not debut

but like when you see him in the church with

the With like the capon or the the hood how it's

kind of a throw It's a kind of a mention of his

early debut as crimson cowl In the early days

of ultron. Yeah, that was really cool. I I really

like I noticed that like When he was sitting

in that chair thing and I was like, oh, that's

really cool that they kind of put that nod in

there Yeah, and uh, we talked about the the show

and how that could be chose. Uh What's his name?

Amadeus chose i'm an amadeus. That's I mean,

I want to be called amadeus That's a great amadeus.

Um amadeus The seventh smartest person on the

planet But with thor I I My assumption is like

his little like mind trickery thing was supposed

to be somehow in reference to Ragnarok that's

coming up That's what I kind of took out of it.

I wasn't really sure like it was kind of weird.

I was confused Yeah, I kind of I kind of saw

that too like his whole interaction with Heimdallr

Yeah, like things he was hinting at what he was

saying. I felt like they were trying to hint

that Ragnarok a little bit Thing that sticks

out to you. Oh, did you guys you know how they

call? The Hulkbuster Omer Veronica. Do you know

why that is and what that's in reference to?

Yeah, I just I read it was something to do with

the Archie comic and because Bruce Banner loved

Betty that they just named this the opposite

Yeah of ever being a name for I had no idea that

I'll be lying if I did. Yeah, I didn't know that

either I just I totally read that and I was like,

okay, that makes sense. My Archie my Archie knowledge

is not up as it used to be They didn't do me

nor is anybody's yeah How about the Friday one?

That was I didn't what was that? I did not I

didn't get that at all That was I guess that

was from the comics too. I wasn't real familiar

with it, but they said he had actually Stark

it actually created another like artificial intelligence

that was called Friday Sort of he had like I

guess some backup ones you could call it like

backup ones his original like Suits AI so he

you know He had one named Friday and I guess

someone said that if you look closely in the

movie When he picks up the I guess it was on

a disc or something and you can see it says Friday

on it Yeah, I didn't catch this but someone said

that if you look closely you see him like moving

a couple and the one actually said Jocasta Really?

Yeah, which was like the you know the Bride of

Ultron or whatever you want to call it. Like

he made the female robot in the comics I did

not I did not pick that I'm gonna I'm sure there's

like a ton more easter eggs once the blu -ray

comes out. Yeah I'm gonna look for that one when

I watch it the second time because I thought

that was pretty cool I don't know you guys hear

that for the blue ray. They're supposed to have

like an alternate ending and uh And uh additional

like it's supposed to be extended edition of

it, which should be interesting I think it's

I don't know how much longer I don't know if

they're gonna try to like water the rings it

and make it another like 40 minutes long Is it

is it just an extended or is it an alternate

or it's like things are different? It's an alternate

ending This is though. I've heard that that isn't

true. There's not an alternate ending But I do

know it's supposed to be alternate and extended

what extended means how much? You know, you don't

know it could be like an additional scene or

two or one or something like that. Yeah Another

thing that I heard or just today that I read

was um a lot of people are asking too about how

like in the first Thor They could they sort of

show the infinity gauntlet in Odin's weapons

vault. Yeah, and People are saying like with

this after credit scene with Thanos obviously

putting the gauntlet on they're like all right

well how did he get that like did he go to asgard

and get it did loki give it to him like what's

going on but i guess someone from marvel i'm

not sure who but they sort of confirmed an interview

that there's actually a right and a left gauntlet

and if you looked i guess if you look closely

at the one in thor as a right -handed one Because

in the age of Ultron Thanos reaches in with his

left hand and he puts it on his left hand So

does that mean there's 12 infinity gauntlets

or 12 infinity stones altogether? No, I don't

think it I don't think it means that I don't

think they're gonna go that far but I what I

I mean it does open up some possibilities though

because it's like All right. Well, what if like

Somebody else wields the other one and they each

have three stones and they fight each other with

three stones You know like and it's sort of like

maybe it matters which stones you have because

you sort of use them in your strategy to beat

the other guy so it's like It's weird. Like I

don't know how they're gonna do it and I was

thinking personally I'm like, well, maybe that's

just a screw -up and they just sort of like you

know, it was like a rewrite or a retcon or whatever

you want to call it like but According to this

article, I mean, we'll see if it's true. But

he said this guy from Marvel said that There's

a right and a left one So, I don't know Hmm,

that'll be interesting. I guess, you know, maybe

one was made by Ned Flanders in the left -handed

Torium or whatever they called it Eleven percent

of people are left -handed Apparently Thanos

is a Southpaw. Yeah, yeah and so I don't it's

interesting because it like where this leaves

off looking at like the where we're gonna be

going after this because There were like little

hints of you know Iron Man makes a like a Tony

Stark makes mention that he's going to go help

write legislation for the government I don't

know if you guys caught that At the end like

that's where he's going and you have the new

Avengers team But I one of my question is like

with Hulk did anyone else think like Is he going

into space that he's not going into space? Because

they they said at the end that he like landed

off the coast of something and he must have swam.

I thought it seemed like you or something. They

said, yeah, I was kind of hoping that to Dan,

but they definitely said he was swimming to Fiji.

That was my that was my first thought. I'm like.

Are they doing it? Yeah, that's what that was

my first thought too that that whole thing was

weird at the end as well There was there was

a lot of we like I don't understand why Iron

Man went away I don't understand why Hulk went

away. I don't just wants to be left alone I guess

I don't understand why some of these people like

went away. It was just like yeah, we're leaving

though You can have fun with the new team here.

Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was weird how they kind

of they almost lied because I remember, I don't

know if it was Whedon or or Fagie or however

you say his name. I could have sworn they promised

that Falcon was not in this movie and he shows

up in a couple of spots in this movie. Clearly

at the end, he's on the new roster. Yeah. So

I was like, that was kind of a I guess they were

just trying to keep a tight lid on that. But.

I gotta say the new roster like not not to knock

anyone but kind of a huge step down in every

area like for For power wise. Yeah, it was it's

very street level kind of the biggest hitters

are vision and scarlet witch Yeah, yeah But you

got war machine on there at least though Yeah,

I guess vision is pretty powerful and you do

have uh, you do have scarlet witch who? You know

is a wild card as we said because her powers

are still like, you know Whatever you want them

to be I guess at the moment But even that in

itself was almost a little mini Easter egg to

me because a sort of a nod to like how the roster

kept changing in the comics like all the time

like people were coming and going like constantly

and You know, you might lose some powerful characters

and he kind of had to make do with the members

that you have there Yeah, that's true. I did

like that and I feel like in a way like I'm gonna

get a lot of what I wanted out of civil Captain

America civil war I feel like that that more

and more it's just gonna be like Avengers 3 .0

or 3 .5 or sorry Avengers like 2 .5 because it

just the way it's set up and the way they're

moving it because My assumption would be Falcon

would be in that maybe war machine 2 Um, you

know if that if those are the avengers would

they also be in it? I'm i'm curious how that's

gonna work out. So did did you guys think? and

especially after Bruce bander mentioned wakanda

Did you guys think black panther would appear

somewhere in this movie? Yeah, I was I was hoping

like there'd even be like a statue someplace

when they because Is the is the city that they

were in was that supposed to be wakanda there?

Do you or? I guess not Well, yeah, I don't know.

I forget the name of the city. It was like some

weird name that I can't pronounce. But I think

they're supposed to be close to Wakanda, right?

Or in the country of Wakanda, maybe. Maybe because

like he was, you know, he got he got out. So

maybe he was not no longer there. Yeah, because

they were I mean, that's where the vibranium

mine was, obviously. So it was in that country,

I think. But yeah, I was kind of hoping that

he would just kind of. Not that not that they

had to introduce him, but you would see a guy

and be like, oh, that's probably T 'Challa, you

know, like yeah I was hoping I'm not gonna lie

for some sort of reference or something. I mean

they did reference it but they would uh I'm interested

in seeing how because he's supposed to show up

in Civil war or so how that's gonna work out.

Yeah. Yeah um, I had one last like part of the

movie Well, at least that I wanted to ask you

guys about sure. Um Sort of had an issue with

it. I don't know if anyone else did I'm curious

to hear what you think but The whole relationship

between Black Widow and Bruce Banner. What'd

you guys? It was kind of Fun with them flirting

back and forth, but that was the only thing that

I really got Like any interest out of for the

most part Because it was just definitely weird

and it kind of muddled things more at the end.

I think as well Yeah, I agree At first I thought

it it was just gonna be like, okay, it's just

like, you know You know the Hulk has a soft spot

for the ladies so, you know when she shows up

that you know, he gets a little weak in the knees

and but I Putting her in that I felt like it

weakened the character of Black Widow a little

bit and like how That that was my issue with

it. It just seems like it doesn't Seem it felt

like I don't know. That's my issue. It just it

felt like it weakened her character and it didn't

seem It felt like a weak way of giving her more

to do. Yeah and just Just like in general to

me. It just seemed It's no pun intended. I know

Greg's gonna crack up when I say this but the

whole thing just seemed rather stiff to me Green

zucchini Like, it just seemed kind of forced.

I didn't really get the feeling of chemistry

between these two characters. Not necessarily

the actors, but the characters. It's obviously

an interesting avenue to explore, but I don't

think it really worked in this very well. Like,

it felt kind of awkward. And if you'd think anything,

like you would think Black Widow would have that

relationship with Hawkeye or something. Yeah,

yeah, especially after the first movie where

she was so scared of him and Hulk and yeah And

like obviously we learned about Hawkeye. He has

a family He has a wife and like three kids and

he's expecting another one which which was awesome.

By the way, that was like Really cool to find

but just that I felt the whole black widow and

Hulk thing just could have been totally left

out and I think it would have Been fine totally

fine without it Yeah, I agree agree and it's

funny cuz I you so touch on Hawkeye and I think

I Look like I felt like his personality in this

really felt like he came from the matte fraction

comic I thought it was really cool what they

did was him Because he's not getting his own

movie obviously, but I know I wonder if he's

a done after this I wonder if we this is the

last of Hawkeye I don't know if we're coming

back and I'm not sure that's a good question

Could see if any if you're gonna say what event

I I just wonder if there's more to do I feel

like that's kind of this one song and it makes

sense, but You know, we'll see I really like

his scene where they were loading people on the

shield boats and He kind of thinks he's the last

one because he's like looking around and he finally

gets on and he sees like a little boy like Struggling

in the rubble and he he kind of like hangs his

head he's like ah man you know but he goes out

anyway to get him even though like things are

really ticking down like the things about to

like blow up and explode i just it showed like

a lot about his character like i thought that

tied him in with a lot with like captain america

or something like that like i don't know if that's

necessarily caps influence but it said a lot

about who hawkeye is too and like the fact that

he has kids so You know, he recognized that kid

struggling and I thought that part was awesome

that he went out to get that kid Yeah, and I

did a little like little like rivalry that was

between him and Quicksilver, you know, yeah Didn't

see that coming. Yeah, you didn't see that coming

that was spot -on How are you? What is it like

to chase Rocky and Bullwinkle? I do not like

moose and squirrel. All righty, anything else?

I'll probably think of something later, but I

guess... I'm sure. I will probably see it a second

time, so I'm curious if... I had the feeling

after I walked out of X -Media's Future Pass

for the first time where I'm like, I think I

need to sit... See it a second time to really

get my complete opinion on it. So we'll see I

could probably talk more uh, you know thanos

infinity stones all night, so If anybody wants

to talk about that hit me up on twitter or something

Well, we're we're done we're done here so go

away go watch age of ultron go do it now again

for the 12th time just do it Yeah, let's do it.

It needs more money