Talking in Circles

The Geek Oscars

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About this Episode

The hosts create their own awards ceremony for geek culture, giving out Oscars in categories the Academy ignores. Awards cover iconic movie lines, action heroes, comic book artists and weapons, villains, and 2014 pop culture moments, with discussion and voting breakdowns for each category.

This is Jason David Frank, and you're listening

to the Geek Cash Radio Network. Let's take a

look at the board. And the categories are potent

potables, letters that begin with G, who reads,

which is a category about books. I'm sure we

won't tackle that one. Let it snow. State your

name. In that category, all you need to do is

state your name. Famous operas and potpourri.

Sean, you control the board. I'll take horage

for 200. It is who reads. It's about books. It's

not whore ads. That's it, Connery. You're on

a timeout. You are now on the inside of what

I like to call the circle of trust. We are all

connected in a great circle of life. You know

something, Bert? I think you and I are going

in circles. It feels like we're going in circles.

The circle is now complete. When I left you,

I was about to learn you. Now I am the master.

Because it's a circle. Yeah, we heard about the

circle. Yeah, I swear. Hi, this is Greg This

is Chuck and this is Dan and we are Talking in

circles brought to you by the geek cast radio

network the podcast that is going to be geekifying

the Oscars Yes, by the time this is released

the Oscars would have come out But we're gonna

take what the Oscars does and do it better in

doing it the geek way and make it much more entertaining

Yes, yes, so we have our tuxes on Greg has his

evening gown on. No, I just have a pair of those

high cut or low cut briefs with the black tux

on it. Well, there you go. That's how I'm doing

it. Keeping it fancy. That's right. Keeping it

fancy. I'm in a tuxedo snuggie. All right. Not

really. I would never be caught dead in one of

those. And I'm gonna park it cuz it's freaking

freezing You know, it's really cold when I get

an email from my apartment complex telling me

things to do Because it's so cold out and it's

like keep cabinet doors open Keep the water running.

I'm like, all right. Well, that's kind of weird

But before we get to the craziness of the geek

Oscars in our second segment, how's the week

been going for you guys Greg? I know that you

have a special a tinder story that we might Get

the chance to partake. Oh, yeah. I'm back on

Tinder again, guys. Thank you. So far, it's all

right. I'm getting talked to a bunch of people,

whatever. I'm not really looking in their About

Me section because I'm just going by face. And

then I'd like to get to know people through actually

talking to them later instead of reading all

their stuff and instantly knowing everything

about them. So I've just been going off of, uh,

faces and, uh, so eventually I right swipe left

swipe and, uh, I got a match for somebody. I

was like, Oh, all right, nice. And I go look.

And then I, I actually looked at their about

me before I went and talked to them. Yeah. Halfway

through, I find out that they are a transgendered

person. So they were a really convincing female,

pretty good looking, uh, Woman, I guess I I don't

know any of the ends. I'm quite ignorant about

transgender people I've never really met any

transgendered person. So yeah, I've got that

going for me now. So Yeah, not talking to that

person. They may be nice person but Not into

that kind of situation they feel free to do whatever

they want and it's cool if they want to get that

done, but Not my kind of situation. So yeah,

I'm sure there's a A lot, you know a lot worse

could deal with though. I guess it tells you

that the the power of reading though I can tell

you a lot. So read The paper directions read

the directions before you get started because

you never know what parts you're gonna be playing

Don't judge a book by its cover. Yeah Very nice.

All right Chuck. Well Probably maybe one of the

biggest news stories to come out recently. It's

shocking. How will this frozen over all that

great stuff? But uh, It's sudden news that some

of our listeners might be aware of but Chuck

you you finally have joined Twitter Yeah, I have

I figured like well, you know, it was actually

the day over the weekend where we were having

wind chills at like 25 below zero, so I'm like,

well, this is the closest that we're going to

get to help reason over. So I'll just join. So

I was kind of bored. There was really nothing

you could do. I didn't even want to go out to

like do anything. So kind of just was hanging

in. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to join Twitter.

What the hell? Nice. Nice. I was actually, I

was at babies are us signing up for registry.

When I get a text, I'm like, or not a text, but

a tweet. I'm like, wait. What is this going on?

Really till my wife and wife's like really Chuck

is doing Twitter. It was it was done. I almost

told everybody in the store All the balloons

dropped down from the ceiling and toys are us

like alarms are going off Yeah, so, uh, you know,

it's been you know a few days almost a week How

have you enjoyed Twitter? Have you kicked yourself

off yet? Or are you still are you still enjoying

it? I'm actually kind of enjoying it so far I'm

not too busy with my activity, I guess. Kind

of just enjoying reading other people's tweets.

I think I've only done like 14 tweets or something

like that, but mostly just like retweeting other

people's stuff. Are you also retweeting Funko?

Not Funko, but Hasbro. Nice. Talking in circles

brought to you by Funko and Hasbro. A lot of

toys. Not to their knowledge, though. Yeah. A

lot of toy stuff, which I'll talk a little bit

about later. But and then, like, I think something

that Jimmy Fallon wrote, which was actually pretty

funny, because he was like, he said the Washington

Monument, they just discovered that it's 10 inches

shorter than they thought it was. And the Washington

Monument said, can you come back and measure

in June? You know, I like that. But now I tried

doing everything like, I think I tweeted a picture

to you, Dan, about that cable figure. Yeah. And

then i you know i tried retweeting and i did

favor things so i can i did all the steps and

like you know i did i got to the ten tweet mark

so i got like past level one of twitter if it

was a game even throughout some hashtags there

like within your first you tweet was impressive

is it some time to get handle the handle that

you know how that crazy mean the house is. Yeah,

I just, you know, kind of looked at what was

trending and the the Toy Fair stuff was kind

of trending. So I kind of threw that stuff out

there. And there's a really cool website for

that stuff that I go to called The Fwoosh. And

some of my fellow collectors, if there's any

out there, probably know that site. But so, yeah,

I was having a little fun with it and mostly

just reading other people's stuff. So you mentioned

stuff about Toy Fair. Do you want to get in?

I know you there's a lot going on in that world

this week. Yeah. I didn't I don't know like the

whole all the ins and outs of it and everything

because I'm focused on only certain areas like

I'm a big fan of the Marvel Legends action figure

line which I've mentioned on here before. I've

been collecting those for like over 10 years

probably 10 or 12 years since they first came

out and they released like a ton of pictures

of new like series and new figures they're coming

out with of those. I'm super excited for those

because they have They released like they're

gonna have an Ant -Man wave It's not gonna be

on a movie or more based on a comic. Well see

what they're doing now kind of is They're mixing

their waves up. So they have like a couple of

movie figures and then a couple of comic figures

Because from what I had heard if they do a wave

of like all comic figures a lot of retailers

Don't want to carry them Because they think there's

no market for them Yeah, because you know comics

And all right But like they you know the retailers

know the movies bring a lot of revenue obviously

so they want things that are associated with

those so they kind of like You know if they're

coming up with Avengers wave And that's one of

the big gripes about like Legends collectors.

It's like it seems like every wave There's like

an Iron Man figure or a Captain America figure

and like for a while there Wolverine was like

in every wave and stuff But they're kind of doing

that for a reason which kind of sucks but it's

kind of keeping the legends popular so in a way

it's a good thing if we can kind of put up with

it but yeah they're coming up with a new spider

-man wave which I guess everybody's excited about

this chameleon figure which they never made a

figure of him before so that's pretty cool it

gives you some alternate heads and Or or did

they and then just put it with a different character's

name? Yeah, you never know just buy like a double

like it just is by a second spider -man figure

and be like that's chameleon Yeah, there's a

craven the hunter figure that looks like really

awesome some Avengers figures some new figures

that look really great. So I was definitely excited

about that which I was kind of upset though cuz

I'm like damn it. I was almost done collecting

and You know now that all these cool figures

are out So if you had to like pick one or maybe

like one or two from the other new ones that

were announced anyone stand above and anything

above the other ones besides the fact that made

a chameleon figure I I gotta say I'm super excited

for that Craven figure because it just looks

awesome like It was just a picture that was sort

of released. It wasn't really on display there.

Yeah, so it was kind of like a rendering of it,

but it looks like It's a new sculpt and it just

looks like it's a statue almost like it just

looks amazing the detail on it and stuff But

also there's a scarlet witch figure that is coming

out. That's really awesome Really looking forward

to getting that because the old scarlet witch

figure from toy biz was like terrible So they're

kind of redoing some of the long overdue ones,

which is pretty exciting nice nice I remember

I had a craving figure and I was a kid but it

was from the cartoon series Yeah, so back man,

I probably have that someplace I don't know but

but that uh That cable figure picture that I

sent you looks pretty cool. Like that's actually

a Marvel select. Yeah, which is weird because

they're The same price as the legends now, like

they've always pretty much been $20 with the

legends have gone up in price So the select is

usually like a better sculpt It's still posable,

but it's more like a statue almost. I have quite

a few select figures and a lot of them are really

good. I have a Juggernaut one and a Colossus

one, Saber Tooth, stuff like that. They're usually

really, really good and that Cable one looks

like it's on par with that quality. It's great

though because you're almost like getting a statue

for like $22. Yeah, yeah, that's very cool. It's

funny. I had like a Thor one, but I lost it I'd

moved in work and I think it got kind of misplaced

when it was moving So it was like the the new

Thor look from like 2006 or so. That's yeah I

have a cap one to the Bucky cap when that debuted

so well they they're coming out They should they

really revealed a new picture of a Marvel select

Thor It looks okay. But the cool thing is there's

an accessory with it of hit of a spinning hammer

Nice so it's like a round piece with like all

these hammers like around in a circle So you

put it in his hand. It looks like he's like swinging

it like in the comics cool. So it's pretty cool

awesome and One thing I did get to do this weekend.

It is kind of within the Realm of the Oscars

going on and I do this every year. This is actually

the fifth year I did this and it's called the

best picture showcase. It's done by AMC I'm sure

a lot of other theaters do it too And what what

they do is they play all the best picture nominated

films over two days One was on one Saturday and

then the Saturday before the Oscars It's like

it's an all -day event. I go with a friend some

work. We've been going for a while now and it's

kind of it's a cool time It's interesting. It's

like the closest thing I get to going to a movie

festival because I don't go to anything like

can or Sundance or anything like that and they

do have like a Maryland movie festival, but it's

during the week So I don't have the opportunity

to go. So it's it's fun. Like the first day saw

Granby to Pest Hotel whiplash Birdman and Selma

And that was kind of cool. It's like, it's not

bad. It's like 50 bucks for the entire thing,

but I get 10 bucks back in for food. And then

I got an additional 10 bucks back from my rewards

card and I won some free movie tickets because

I won trivia. They had a trivia question about

like for who was going to be the star of. Grand

Budapest Hotel before Ray Fiennes and I knew

it was Johnny Depp. Because I listen to podcasts

so see podcasting can make you you know make

you a star I guess or get me one free movies.

But yeah, so that was cool and it's good time

and It's interesting though cuz last two years

in a row We sat in front of these ladies, you

know older ladies like late 40s 50 ish and They're

super annoying the first time that story. Yeah,

we sat by them in front of them one year The

very next year our own mistake because we sat

basically in the same location and so did they

two years in a row So this time we see them there

again So we're like, all right. Well, we're not

sitting in the same location We're going to a

different place and we did well, then there is

a really obnoxious guy behind us anyways who

wasn't as bad but uh, I think he would have drove

you crazy chuck because he ended up talking about

the The arrow and the episode suicide squad getting

it like really wrong, but acting like he was

knowing what he was talking about Like how it's

like Holly Quinn was never a member of it and

like all this other stuff and he was just getting

it really wrong and The guy I go with Larry he's

you know, he's actually probably more in the

DC and he was like this guy keeps getting things

wrong He's saying it really loudly. I don't remember

the character from Saturday Night Live Will Ferrell

had it was one that he couldn't control the volume

It sounded like that guy cuz he was just the

way he would project it was like he was yelling

but he was just normally talking so and then

It kind of set me off to I didn't know I say

anything but you was talking about her which

is one of my favorite movies last year and he

was like Well, I think the director and the writer

just they had different ideas like they didn't

seem to know what each other was doing and I

wanted to turn around and be like It was written

and directed by the same guy Unless the let's

think of who was schizophrenic. I'm pretty sure

he agreed with himself. Yeah, exactly I was like

I let it go. I was just whatever but It's interesting.

It's always fun. Like because I I've seen all

the movies are not well most of them by the time

I went to the screening and it was just kind

of interesting knowing the movie and waiting

for the reaction and like whiplash the I've only

gone to one day so far by the time this air has

helped go to two but so far whiplash got the

biggest crowd reaction like literally by the

end like there was almost a standing ovation

and just because of the way that movie ends you

can kind of understand why but After Birdman

like I think a lot of people are just really

confused because it's a different movie And I

think people didn't really know what to expect

with Birdman. I think people thought it'd be

like a comic book movie and it's not at all But

uh, the best experience I ever had was Tree of

Life and if you know anything about Tree of Life,

it's by Terrence Malick and this was from like

two years ago It's a different film. It doesn't

go through a linear story, very atmospheric,

some random imagery. It's a kind of out there

movie for a lot of people. And the reaction afterwards,

it was just like... What the I think someone

said like what the hell Academy? What the hell

was that? Like it was like the crowd was visibly

angry. It was kind of funny Just being there.

I'm like because there it was such a out there

movie I think a good chunk like walked out because

it's such a different film. But uh, it was it's

always a good time I look forward to it every

year. So but yeah, it's pretty much all I've

been up to that in the Putting the get it furniture.

We put together a dresser and kind of embarrassed

how long it took it took like, you know a good

like six hours to get it Get it together. Yeah,

but it was a very complicated dresser with eight

drawers. And it was like a serious one that took

a lot of work. But also we were also watching

flash and arrow while we were doing it. So that

kind of, okay. So that it was kind of like, you

know, yeah. So I was going to say, does it is

like, does the dresser have its own wifi spot

and like if the hook up the Bluetooth and yeah,

you know, it makes coffee. It's a, it's a correct.

Serious satellite radio exactly. You cannot you

know runs electricity. It's weird It's cool goes

back to the future and if you open it up in the

right angle, you can get the Narnia so We have

pretty uneventful week just dealing with the

cold and had a first snow day of the year Which

was exciting and get the work from home. So It's

always fun. But anything else before we take

a quick break and we get back and do the geek

Oscars? No, because Greg did absolutely nothing

for the most part, except I watched Supernatural.

And I don't think I've ever ever pimped that

on the show. If you have something that you just

want to sit down and watch, I highly recommend

Supernatural. It's really good stuff. Yeah, my

wife really loves that show. I've watched like

secondhand a lot. So but yeah, I hear a lot of

people love it. My brother actually really loves

that show, too. It's really good. Chuck, don't

watch it. I think you will hate it. I've tried

kind of watching and I don't really care for

it. Yeah, it's got a whole angel demon thing

going on and I think it skews what actually happens

in the Bible, so I don't think it's up your alley,

so. Yeah. It's not historically accurate. Yeah.

That goes without saying. But I think it's kind

of interesting. The characters are really interesting.

And I'm not into it to the point of believing,

like, oh, demons, ghosts exist. But I find the

concepts interesting. So it's kind of right up

my alley. Is it when you keep with every week

or is that just when you catch up on a book?

Oh, I've been binge watching I didn't start watching

that from the beginning I because like I said,

I can't keep up with stuff and I finally actually

forgot about agent Carter this week. So I was

wondering like it's kind of funny every week

Greg Texas that agent Carter is on But this week

we didn't get attacked. Yeah. Yeah, and I forgot

so and I was just waiting the binge watch that

anyways I've only watched the first two episodes

and then once over I'll probably just Stick that

one down one day and watch it. Yeah, but I've

been binge watching the supernatural show and

it's it's really good to be quite honest. Awesome.

I would like to share a food story. Oh, cool.

Oh, you have a food story. Those have been popular

lately. We have a lot of food stories. I'm seeing,

you know, from feedback from our listeners, they're

liking the food talk. So I just wanted to throw

another little quick food story out there. Went

to Pizza Hut last night with my girlfriend. I

don't know if you've ever had the pleasure of

ordering this, but we got the ultimate cheese

lovers pizza. It sounds delicious. Oh my gosh.

It's so good. It's like, I don't know if you've

ever had Pizza Hut's pasta or not. I have. But

they actually they actually have really good

pasta. And this pizza tastes just like their

little chicken Alfredo pasta. Like all these

cheeses on it. There's like parmesan cheese and

it's just there's like gar like this garlic sauce

kind of thing But it's not overdone It's just

like it's amazing So if you like if you go to

pizza and you haven't tried that like that's

on my recommend list for this week The ultimate

cheese lovers the thing is awesome. You had me

a cheese and garlic. Yeah, and yes ultimate and

Cheese and lover in a sentence. It's probably

gonna make it time I know and then we get these

little things too. They called they called kpapas

and They're basically like little tater tots

with cheese and jalapeno Things in them nice

and they're really good at different ranch dressing

and everything. Oh Yeah, they go good with it.

So now we got everybody all nice and hungry before

the break here. Yeah Unfortunately, I have no

food stories, nothing exciting this week. I kind

of had a boring week of food, just kind of your

normal stuff. I'll try to do better for next

time though, so. You gotta bring it, Dan. You

gotta bring it. Alrighty, so we're gonna take

a quick break and when we come back we will be

getting into the official Geek Oscars, so we'll

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and welcome to the 2015 Geek Oscars presented

by the Talking in Circles podcast in association

with Geek Cast Radio Network. Welcome, welcome,

welcome. Thank you all for joining us today for

today's very special event. Now that those fake

Oscars are out of the way, we can get to the

real Oscars. We're going to be nominating those

properties we geeks all love. And you may be

asking, like, 2015 geek Oscars? Yes, but not

just stuff from 2015. We're actually going to

be going through a lot of different geeky topics,

kind of almost like a... grab bag of different

categories that have been long forgotten by the

academy so we feel it's our duty to kind of recognize

those underappreciated categories like best action

star best geek weapon and best way to time travel

those are just a few of the oscars we will be

getting to in a short bit so you understand how

this works we came up with the categories we

came up with the nominees and greg chuck and

i all voted the one with the most votes won And

that was pretty much it. And very much like the

actual Academy Awards, we were all three white

men. So I guess we do have that in common. I

am actually 50 % black and 25 % Asian, Dan. Oh,

really? No, not really. You do not seem that

way. Because it's not true. Well, there you go.

We have five different areas that we're going

to be going over. The first one will be performances,

then action heroes, then comic book awards, then

miscellaneous, which will be a little bit of

everything, and then finally awards that are

just in regard to things that happened in 2015.

So it should be fun. Hopefully, you know, we'll

have a little bit discussion about who won as

well. I will preface this by saying is I know

who won, but no one else did. I have all these.

Winners in sealed envelopes that I'm going to

reveal here tonight and we'll hear Chuck and

Greg's actual reaction So it's cut. It's kind

of like the old -school America's Funniest Home

videos where we lock in our votes Like nobody

knows who wins until the end lock in your votes

out and unfortunately, we all don't win any money

though. So Be nice to me. Can we get Bob Saget

to have a special appearance on here? You probably

like he's doing anything else Alrighty, so we're

starting with our first categories and these

nominees are all references to different geek

performances. Starting with one of the most infamous

villains of all time and that is the Joker. There

have been many men that have played that role

but only three that have been nominated for this

role for best performance as the Joker. And the

nominees are... Heath Ledger. My father was a

drinker and a fiend. And one night, he goes off

crazier than usual. Mommy gets the kitchen knife

to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not

one bit. So, me watching, he takes the knife

to her, laughing while he does it. He turns to

me, And he says, Why so serious? He comes at

me with the knife. Why so serious? He sticks

the blade in my mouth. Let's put a smile on that

face. And... Why so serious? Mark? Hamill. And

Jack Nicholson. I always ask that of all my prey.

I just like the sound of it. Never rub another

man's rhubarb. And the geek Oscar goes to? Any

guesses? I'm gonna guess Ledger. And you're correct.

It goes to Heath Ledger. Nice. Yeah, I was actually

a little bit surprised by this one. I thought

we and we all voted for Ledger I thought there'd

be maybe one vote there for Hamill, but looks

like we you know, we all went with Ledger I figured

everybody else was gonna go with Ledger. So I

went with Ledger Is that a terrible way how to

vote? That's how the Academy votes Chuck any

reason why you went with Ledger over Hamill?

I guess just cuz he was better in my opinion.

I think like Hamill is the distinctive voice

of the Joker, like when you think of the Joker,

you think of Hamill's voice, but I just really

liked what Ledger did on the screen, right down

to like, you know, improvising certain moments

and stuff in the film. And I just think he totally

got that character, which may or may not have

been his downfall, but he did one hell of a job

portraying him, I think. Very true, very true.

Well, it's fitting that we go with best Joker.

So let's then go with Best performance as Batman

the Batman and the nominees are Kevin Conroy

No, you are not my father. I am not a disgrace

I am vengeance. I am the night Michael Keaton

Don't kill me, man! Don't kill me! Don't kill

me, man! I'm not going to kill you. I want you

to do me a favor. I want you to tell all your

friends about me. What are you? I'm Batman. And

Christian Bale. Wait! You could die at least

tell me your name It's not who I am underneath

But what I do that defines me And the winner

is Kevin Conroy nice. Oh, yeah, and it was a

clean sweep Just like Heath Ledger. Yeah, we

all voted Conroy. Greg, did you also vote Conroy

because you thought we would also vote for him

as well? No, I really liked him. I think he is

most certainly the best and the one I kind of

associate with Batman pretty much nine times

out of ten. So yeah, I definitely went with Conroy.

It was one of my favorite portrayals that you

get to see over and over and over again. Keaton

is really good as Batman, but I'm just... used

to conroy and that's kind of the voice i hear

in my head when i read that there was not one

right in vote for adam west i was expecting that

but alright now staying in the comic book realm

but going to a different character one who is

an actor that seems to change with every movie

but it seems to actually be kind of steady now

but so we're going with best performance as bruce

banner and the nominees are edward norton i've

got a problem There are aspects of my personality

that I can't control See a shrink it's a little

bit more complicated than that Bruce trust me

when I tell you I've heard them all Not this

one Mark Ruffalo Now might be a really good time

for you to get angry that's my secret cat I'm

always angry And the iconic Bill Bixby. And the

geek Oscar goes to... Mark Ruffalo. Woo! Nice.

This was not a clean sweep and I almost went

with Norton too. It was tough, but I personally

went with Ruffalo just because I thought he had

a little bit more fun with the character and

I gotta go with that line. You know, I'm always

angry. So it just hit me in the right spot, but

I do love Edward Norton. I'm like, I'm a staunch

defender of the Incredible Hulk movie. I think

it's really underrated, but I'm excited to see

what Ruffalo has to go. But Greg, I know you

voted for Norton, so any words on his performance?

I thought he was more convincing as Bruce Banner.

I just really love that movie. I do think Mark

Ruffalo is a good Bruce Banner. I don't know,

there's just something there that doesn't...

I would say that I do agree that I think Norton

probably has a more... Complex performance and

more will say well -rounded because it does get

some like I think he hits every beat of the character

Yeah, and also he had more has the look too.

I think to be honest he's a little bit more Skinny

taller kind of guy. Yeah, I think to be fair

if he had more Films where he got to play that

part. I think he would have definitely get a

lot more respect to their role. Yeah It's too

bad. I guess you just had some falling outs with

the director and it kind of went south Yeah,

I do kind of miss that cuz I I did think that

was a good movie, but I I do like Mark Ruffalo

Don't get me wrong All righty, and as you can

see Eric Banner was not nominated. So All right,

we got two more awards here for the press performances

in different geeks movies and as you can tell

this little bit of running theme here so but

Next nominations are Best performance as Professor

Charles Xavier in the nominees are Patrick Stewart.

James McAvoy. Are you gonna ask us to think of

a number between 1 and 10 now? No, Agent Stryker,

although I could ask you about Jupiter Missiles

America currently placing in Turkey. You brought

a damn spy into this facility! And Cedric Smith.

He's from the TV animated series. Is there no

limit to the torment in your mind, saber -tooth?

Have you only known betrayal by your friends

and persecution by humanity? We must probe deeper.

Your mind is full of torment, Sabretooth. Your

mutant life has been difficult. Your search for

acceptance of failure. Cruelty to creatures we

don't understand seems limitless. Let me become

one with your pain. Together we can find the

cause of your torment. And the geek Oscar goes

to Patrick Stewart. And I will say I was the

only one that went with James Mcdavoy. I'm not

gonna lie. But you guys went with Stewart. Chuck,

what is your opinion about Stewart's performance

as Charles Xavier? In my opinion, possibly the

greatest comic book movie casting that we've

seen. And it's not just cause he's bald. I don't

know. Like I don't get wrong. I really love McAvoy

and I think he does an excellent job. But for

me, it's just a Patrick Stewart's like sort of

wisdom and leadership, I guess, in that older

role. I think he just, I think he just pulls

that off so well. Like he just pulls off that

role of a teacher and a mentor. And that's really

what you look for in a Charles Xavier, plus the

voice is rocking. He does have a good one. Anything

to add to that, Greg? I agree with everything

that Chuck said. He just kind of embodies that

role. And I do think James McAvoy is a good,

younger Charles Xavier, but I guess I'm kind

of used to. The older version, uh, especially

in the comic books. So When they get somebody

to play the role, I definitely think of patrick

stewart as that older charles xavier There's

not a negative word. I would ever say about patrick

stewart as charles xavier It's pretty spot on

it is quite great everything you guys said 100

agree with I guess the reason I went with mcdevoy

is more so because It's almost unfair because

you know stewart is playing that character and

he's well established He you know, he knows who

he's it who he is, but mcdevoy. He's Sing Xavier

kind of go through this progression to become

that legend. We know all we all know so feel

like he had more of a Variety and kind of more

of a journey to go on as an actor that I appreciated

So that's kind of why I went with him and so

it's but like I said, I Stewart's definitely

deserves the nomination the award. That's a good

point though He's gonna use a little bit more

creativity in his role. Yeah Fittingly we talked

about perfection professor X. So who do you go

with next? and that of course is the best performance

as Magneto and the nominees are Ian McKellen.

My good boy. Whoever said I wanted you? Michael

Fassbender. How did you lose them? The treatment

for my spine affects my DNA. You sacrificed your

power so you could walk. What do you know about

it? I lost my fair share. Dry your eyes, Eric.

Doesn't justify what you've done. You've no idea

what I've done. I know that you took the things

that mean the most to me. Well, maybe you should

have fought harder for them. If you want to fight,

Eric, sit down. I will give you a fight! Let

him come. You abandoned me! You took her away,

and you abandoned me! Angel. Azazel. Emma. Fancy.

We were supposed to protect them! Eric! Where

were you, Charles? You abandoned us all and David

Heblen Like you I believe that mutants and normal

humans cannot live together in peace The war

for survival must begin now while we mutants

are strong and you are still divided Your assassination

would have ignited that war. I flew to Washington

to witness the beginning of a new age. But the

X -Men saved you. It is up to me to finish what

others have started. No, please! I've got a family,

children! Be quiet! When I was a boy, I saw men

executed. Women and children. Each night I saw...

And the Geek Oscar goes to, in a clean sweep,

Michael Fassbender. Yes, I was a clean sweep.

Yeah, I was a little bit surprised I mean, it's

interesting, you know Stuart waiting for for

Charles Xavier Fassbender going for Magneto,

but Greg what what a What do you appreciate about

Fassbender as Magneto? It was the first movie

He was so epic and it was a Magneto movie that

x -men first class It was more focused on him.

So it got more of the emotional backstory behind

Magneto, which makes him such a great character.

You got him going on this revenge plot, plus

his badass music that went along with his role

was just friggin awesome. But yeah, Ian McKellen

was good. It was just kind of so -so. I never

really pictured him as Magneto. It was like a

really old Magneto, whereas Patrick Stewart fit

the role perfectly. Ian McKellen just was kind

of like, okay, yeah, he's a great actor. Like

he can't take that away from him ever. He is

really great. But Michael Fassbender really encompasses

that kind of role and he's just got that feel

of Magneto behind him. He's got that vengeance.

I just feel like Ian McKellen just kind of like,

yep. Magneto whatever but Michael Fassbender

is just like I need revenge Kind of is like that

honestly, but Chuck anything else to add yeah,

I think just I mean Greg said it pretty well

there Thank you with my Mike You might get best

geek Oscar for performance for this podcast I

think like Fassbender just He is what like Stuart

was to Xavier like he already nailed that in

his first performance Adam like he gives you

that confidence Yeah, that Magneto has like and

he has a swagger too. It's just like Like every

villain sort of has a confidence that they they

know they're gonna win like they know they're

better than whoever they're facing And he just

like pulled that off. Yeah, definitely and he

has such a huge presence to him like it you just

Captivated by every moment. He's on screen and

similar to Mcdavoy like I think we see him as

this guy who like you mentioned Greg has just

been on revenge and has to kind of become more

of a complex person and become like to a leader

of Men when he never really set out to be that

so and to one of my favorite all -time scenes

in any Marvel movie Maybe even like favorite

movies is his moment with Charles Xavier in X

-Men First Class when he's moving that satellite

and literally like the entire thing is just him

reacting and it's on his face and it's just it's

great. He's a great actor. See, my favorite part

is him in the contained unit with Kevin Bacon

as the Sebastian Shaw in that conversation. Oh,

that's great. With the with the coin. Yeah. He

had the coin scene. That is that is pretty awesome.

I love that movie. First class. Yeah. It's there's

so many great moments in it. So and it's a lot

because I am so definitely and Also, I'm in this

thing called the podcasters of film fantasy league

act that started I key cast radio comm that Kevin

Optimus solo started and I had the first pick

and I picked Michael Fassbender So I'm hoping

the fact that you want to kick Oscar gets me

points somehow So not that I you know cheated

the bot, you know cheated The votes or anything

like that, but you know, I feel like there's

like one or two people Involved in that and I

saw their first pick. I'm like really what the

hell Well my first I had the very first pick

and I went Michael Fassbender. So I think that's

a good pick I don't know what you're what they're

getting the points for but I we get points for

box office awards and appearances and like like

a different like Acting awards and stuff like

that. I think fast vendors a good one because

I do think he's an incredible actor I think he's

got a movie that's gonna be coming out based

off a video game that I really enjoyed Assassin's

Creed Yeah, he that he's been rumored for that.

He's got a lot going out He's gonna be in Macbeth

this year. So that's that's kind of crazy He's

a dude who will do like a comic movie, but also

go do Shakespeare. So It's kind of actually that's

that's all that's all of Magneto and in Charles

Xavier apparently that's that's a requirement.

Can you do a comic book movie? Okay, we'll do

Shakespeare first and then come talk to us. So

it'll be classically trained. All right, so that

that was it for the performances. So now let's

move on to our next grouping of categories. Action

heroes and When it comes action heroes, what

is it? What's something they all have that makes

them so iconic? Great hair. Great. I was going

to say mullet. Yeah. Yeah. Around the same wavelength.

Nice. Nice. That's true. Really tight t -shirts.

Yeah, maybe. Maybe bulging muscles. Maybe if

you're from the 80s. Ash shots. Loving ash shots

from the 80s. Oh, there were a lot of those.

They're like 80s action films are like. Literally

like two steps away from being gay porn a lot

of ways Let's be you see commando and him like

getting ready for battle. I'm like, all right

I get that he's muscular but this is getting

like a little bit a little bit too much Yeah,

I heard on how did this get made? I relistened

to all those I really need new podcasts to listen

to but I was listening to that They were doing

tango and cashed recently. They talked about

What was up in the eighties with the loving ass

shots? There is apparently a shower scene. I've

never seen Tango in cash, but I most definitely

have to now. For the loving ass shots. Unfortunately,

we do not have a category for best loving ass

shot. Maybe next year. But our first category,

as I was alluding to something that a lot of

great action heroes have, and that is iconic

lines. So here are the nominees for most iconic

one liner. I'll be back. Arnold's Fortune Anchor.

I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be right back.

I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back. Ha!

You did not gonna say that, did you? That's what

you always say. I do. Bond. James Bond. Various.

Yes, I don't know what you say there. And go

ahead, make my day. Clint Eastwood Go ahead make

my day and The geek Oscar goes to and perhaps

a surprise win which I did not expect But go

ahead and make my day takes the geek Oscar for

most iconic line Voted for that. I'm thinking

I everyone else is gonna go with I'll be back,

but I was wrong So Chuck you went with I'll be

back. I gotta go to you first. What's your reaction

to this award? You know either either one is

good I think a lot of the old -school fans and

moviegoers will relate to the Clint Eastwood

line the reason I picked I'll be back is just

because it's like Everyone knows that and it's

like, you know, even like little kids are like

I'll be back You know, like they know what that's

from and everything. So I guess the reason I

personally didn't go with it because I feel like

Schwarzenegger is also this kind of solid That

with like doing it a little bit too much and

like even when it's like in the trailers now

I'm like I get it. It's funny. Did you say that

every time even when you're alluding to it in

the Expendables? Yeah So you're putting it in

there all the time like you said it last scene.

You don't need to see it again like every time

But Greg, I know you're kind of, you're a Clint

Eastwood fan, so you went with a good go ahead

and make my day? Yeah, you can have to, because

I had to, because I am a Clint Eastwood fan.

I do enjoy that movie. I really didn't agree

with Bond, James Bond, because I'm like, that's

just his name. He's introducing himself. Like

if it was, like, Martini Shaken. not stirred.

Like, I feel like that's more of his catchphrase.

And as for Arnold, he still haven't seen Terminator

at this point. I know we talked about our geek

shame last week. Yeah, the geek, geek shame is

continuing for me. Hey, well, you know, there's

always still time. Yeah, it was hard. I wanted

to go with something James Bond. And I think,

you know, Marquini might have been interesting.

But since that was his first line spoken on,

spoken in movies, I figured I'd go with it, you

know. So, but it's a good point. Thanks. All

right, moving on to the next category and kind

of alluding to last one. But here we go. Best

old school action star. And the nominees are

Duke himself, John Wayne. Clint Eastwood And

Steve McQueen. Just waiting and the geek Oscar

goes to John Wayne I'll be honest with this one.

I actually want Steve McQueen because he's my

favorite but in order to get it So it wasn't

a tie. I went with my second choice, which was

John Wayne So it ended up going with John Wayne

for the winner. So Like you alluded to last time

Greg you are a Clint Eastwood fan and you didn't

vote for Clint Eastwood So what reaction to the

award going to John Wayne you still think it's

deserved or? Yeah, he's he's he's a good old

-school action hero star. I just kind of felt

like he kind of hobbled here and there he The

best with his hurried walk to yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

he wasn't like Really in that action II he was

more of a tough guy kind of thing cuz he he didn't

really move around too Well, if you ask me Well,

he you know, he let the stuff come to him. Oh,

yeah Or just with a gun Yeah, check. I know you're

an old, you know, I know you're John Wayne fan.

So are you happy that he won? Yes, I am. I know

he's not really like action II per se like I'm

his own person but like You know just the the

things that he gets tied up in basically just

the situations he gets involved in it's it's

always some sort of crazy action scene and plus

he's been in like an insane amount of movies

like if you ever like Look at the movies is in

I think it's like a hundred and seventy some

movies He did or something like that. I could

be wrong on that. But yeah, it's it's some ridiculous

number If you just look at amount of movies he

made with John Ford alone, it is insane So I

think he's probably maybe still making movies.

We just don't even know it. So But do you have

a favorite John John Wayne movie? I'm probably

the Cowboys. Okay, but there's a couple other

really good ones too that I like Rio Bravo North

to Alaska is really good when I think too. I

see Are you more of a fan of World War 2 John

Wayne or Western John Wayne? I would say Western

John Wayne. What about Greg, what do you like?

Westerns. I think that's what I've mostly seen

them in for the most part. That's what my dad

mostly watches. And does not know any other genre.

What about the same question for please Clint

Eastwood? I think that's more of a compelling

question What's better Clint Eastwood like the

Dirty Harry Clint Eastwood or the man with no

name? Clint Eastwood all of those are good in

my opinion all of those Altogether are great.

I like the man with no name. He's definitely

badass and tough, but Dirty Harry he Complete

asshole cop getting shit done No matter who's

trying to take him down whether it's his own

own people trying to keep him contained or the

bad guys He's just freaking badass All right,

so we did old school now not getting the new

school quite yet. Let's go to the 1980s Maybe

the most iconic age for action heroes butt shots

and butt shots if we learned anything today 80s

loves their butt shells. And the nominees for

best 80s action hero are Sylvester Stallone.

This is over. I'm coming again. I'm going back

on your word. Yeah. You signed over custody and

Michael will never go with you because you're

a loser. You've always been a loser! Mr. Cutler

is talking to you. I'm through talking. John

Claude Van Dam I've had my ups and downs My fair

share of bumpy roads and heavy winds That's what

made me what I am today Now I stand here before

you What you see is a body crafted to perfection

A pair of legs engineered to defy the laws of

physics and a mindset to master the most epic

of splits. and the geek Oscar goes to and a clean

sweep, Sylvester Stallone. I was thinking maybe

Schwarzenegger would get one vote, but the fact

that Greg hasn't watched the Terminator films

kind of explains that. So I like Schwarzenegger

when he's with James Cameron, but films other

not so much. But I'll start with you here, Chuck,

because I know Stallone's your boy. So happy

that he won. I am. I'm a big fan of a lot of

his movies. There's not many that I didn't like,

to be honest. I mean, I don't know if he called

Rocky the action ones because they're more like

sports movies, but obviously all the Rambo movies

and stuff. Cobra, Lock Up was really good, Over

the Top and, you know, Tango and Cash like we

alluded to earlier, which is on Greg's list now.

Your favorite still on film, Greg? Favorite Stallone

film. That's a hard question to ask. I know,

I do. Stop or my mom will shoot? No, that one's

awful. I do like... Urban Cowboy? No. I do like

Demolition Man. There was something I had in

my head and I lost it. Of what my favorite Stallone

movie is and I can't think of it right this second.

It wasn't driven, was it? No. Because I know

you're into cars and stuff. Cliffhanger or...

Was it new school old school? Old school definitely

old school. Yeah, it's not coming to me I'm sorry

guys, but but I do enjoy me some rocky. That

was a really good film series Trilogy quadrilogy

or whatever you want to call it fifth quintology

Well, they're making another one so, you know

Well, it's kind of what's in the rocky universe,

but based upon the son of Apollo Creed The art

the RCU the rocky cinematic universe Alright

so let's move on to current day may not have

the action stars we once did but this they're

still there so the nominees for best new school

action star are Jason Statham We've never been

properly introduced your man. Well, I won't ask

your name I personally believe a reputation is

the most important thing. It's pissed off some

of the locals. Look, I don't want any more problems.

Okay. Anything else you're thinking hard about?

Because I can smell the wood burning. If someone

has an issue with me, keep it there. I don't

want my kid involved. I'm a little lost. See

the house? Mm -hmm. See, that's my fucking house.

No one who comes around again will find me standing

in it. Gerard Butler. You're a madman. Earth

and water. Or you'll find plenty of both down

there. No man. Persian or Greek, no man threatens

a messenger. You bring the crowns and heads of

conquered kings to my city steps. You insult

my queen. You threaten my people with slavering

and death. Oh, I've chosen my words carefully,

Persian. Perhaps you should have done the same.

This is blasphemy! This is madness! Madness.

This is Sparta! And Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

Hey, Chris. License and registration, please.

You're joking, right? License and registration.

Huh. What's the problem, Sheriff? You. And the

drugs are peddling out of your casino. Huh. Only

thing that's going on at my casino right now

is construction. You took care of that. Yeah,

that's right. I plan on taking care of everything

else too. If you can. Try to think this through.

A casino is a license to print money. Why would

I jeopardize that by selling drugs? Because you

own the town, Jay. It's changed now. Really?

See, the only thing that I think has changed

around here is that you get to wake up every

morning and put on that nifty little badge. But

underneath that badge is the same guy who couldn't

make it playing college football and apparently

couldn't make it in the army and not really gonna

ever make it as a cop. Is that right? Yeah. And

if you push too hard, you're gonna be a man who

never gets to see 40. License, please. Thanks,

Sheriff. Sir, get your tail lights fixed. It's

your last warning. What's wrong with my tail

lights? They're broken. And the Geek Oscar goes

to, in a clean sweep, Jason Statham. Woohoo!

Nice. Any surprise there for you, Greg? Yeah,

I'm surprised. The Rock, Dwayne Johnson, didn't

do better. He's been in a shit ton of stuff and

he is pretty freaking badass. I just love Jason

Statham as an action hero. He's freaking all

over the place punching people in the face, karate,

driving cars really fast. I can see him getting

all the ladies, which I kind of put with the

action hero, I guess. I mean, it's an element,

definitely for sure. Chuck, you happy to see

them one? Yeah, absolutely. And I think also

an important element of the action hero that

sort of needs to be included is, like Greg said,

the car chase, too. And he's got a lot of experience

with driving in his movies and stuff. A lot of

action sequences with that not to mention the

fighting nine guys at once thing Which is also

handy, but yeah, I really like all like all of

his movies pretty much anyone who was nominated

in this category you think that maybe had should

have been that we didn't include I debated about

Matt Damon, but he's more of an action actor

actor who does action You know, maybe Liam Neeson,

but like same thing. So I was thinking more guys

who are known for action I don't know if there's

anyone else out there that i'm kind of I would

I would maybe throw in like Jackie Chan. That's

good. We definitely could have put him out. You

know what? He's 70s, 80s, and 90s. Yeah, he spans

a long distance there. I thought about Jet Li,

but I think he kind of lacks the blockbusters

that the other guys have. Yeah. All right. So

we're going to finish up the action hero category

with this award. And this one is kind of a little

bit off the wall, but I think it makes sense.

The award is action hero you would want to save

you from a terrorist if you were caught by terrorists

What action hero do you want to be the one come

save you and nominees are? Jason Bourne I can

tell you the license plate numbers of all six

cars outside. I Can tell you that our waitress

is left -handed and the guy sitting up at the

counter weighs 215 pounds and knows how to handle

himself I know the best place to look for a gun

is the cab of the gray truck outside And at this

altitude I can run flat out for a half mile before

my hands start shaking. Now why would I know

that? How can I know that and not know who I

am? I don't know who you are. I don't know what

you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can

tell you I don't have money. But what I do have

are a very particular set of skills. Skills I

have acquired over a very long career. Skills

that make me a nightmare for people like you.

If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the

end of it. I will not look for you. I will not

pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for

you. I will find you. And I will kill you. and

John McLean. I was always kind of partial to

Roy Rogers, actually. I really like those sequined

shirts. Do you really think you have a chance

against us, Mr. Cowboy? Yippee -ki -yay, motherfucker.

And the award goes to... Brian Mills. Not a clean

sweep. Chuck, I was almost a little bit surprised.

You went with Jason Bourne. I thought you'd go

with Mills. Inspired you to go with Bourne instead.

I'm trying to remember my thought process at

the time, but it was something to do with Jason

Bourne. It's just in my mind having more like

experience and training or something like more

intense and Longer training or something like

that. I was I don't know I was on that thought

train for something and I'm like, you know He

just seems more and plus he has that killer instinct

to a lot of times like Mills like just does what

he needs to do to Save his family but born like

it's sort of a weapon you just point him and

get sort of handle anything I think I don't know

interesting Greg. Why'd you go with Brian Mills?

Cuz I felt like he would be the one that would

give most of the crap about me. I feel like I

feel like the others would be like It's actually

kind of similar to what I did too because I was

thinking well Jason Bourne's a little bit of

a head case at times like you know he has these

memory issues and There's a little bit of an

unknown factor there, but Brian Mills He has

a mission he does everything he can to get to

it so and John McClane's great But he's really

just an average guy at best and which is what

it's great about diehard so I went with a you

know super action hero from Taken that you know

no one even lands a hand on him, so I feel like

Maybe the best option, but I wouldn't be upset

if Jason Bourne's the one knocking down the door

and saving you from terrorists and killing everybody

with a pen. I'm surprised you didn't put your

boy in there from 24. Oh, Keith O'Sullivan, yeah.

I thought, well, I know you guys haven't watched

24, so I felt like it would just be kind of pointless

to put Jack Bauer. He would just get destroyed.

Plus the last season of 24 they just did kind

of You know sour the taste of a jackfire a little

bit. Just was really it wasn't awful, but it

was just like unnecessary and kind of uh more

evidence of that why that show went on too long

to begin with so It's kind of like the old quarterback,

you know hanging around for one year too long

in his career It's like seeing joe nameth on

the vikings where it just doesn't make sense.

It feels wrong so we're so we're moving from

the action hero category to a very new category

and that is the comic book awards and not comic

book movies but actual comic books the physical

manifestation of where all those comic movies

come from so in the first award we're going to

be giving out is to the villain most likely to

succeed you have those yearbook awards for the

most likely to succeed well there's got to be

a villain who's most likely to succeed and the

nominees are Dr. Doom, Magneto, and Lex Luthor.

And the Geek Oscar goes to Dr. Doom. If this

award was rewarded to villain that you want to

see succeed, I'm sure that Greg, that probably

went with Lex Luthor, right? Yes, I definitely

want him to succeed. Superman, I'm sorry, everybody.

Greg, I know you was Magneto and it was tough.

I could I definitely see some logic there. So

I'm curious to see why you went with Magneto

or dr doom x -men nerd first off So I was a little

biased pretty sure the people at the oscars are

kind of biased when they do theirs just a tad

I feel like dr doom is like So freakishly obsessed

that he just defeats himself all the time I feel

like Magneto is at least a little bit more level

-headed and Frickin look what Lex Luthor is up

against he's up against frickin Superman He doesn't

have a good chance so that that's kind of my

logic behind it makes sense Chuck I know you

went with doom so You know the character I stole

from you when we villain draft. So what is that

kind of sour grapes? Is that what you do here?

It was curious to see that stirred up. It stirred

up some bad memories You know it hurt but uh,

no, this was this was my way to to actually pick

him Instead of getting snubbed like before I

also thought about Magneto a great deal. But

in the end I just figured like I know Magneto

has spent some time sort of switching sides and

you know he does sort of have a a new ability

to him and he is likely to even play the good

side once in a great while so I think when it

comes to like a villainous plot. I think Doom

to me just seems much more relentless and sort

of the mastermind behind things. Yeah, I think

I went with Doom. It was tough because I think

Magneto, his goals are probably a little bit

more obtainable than that of Doom, who is just

basically obsessed with total domination. But

I think Doom has no conscience whatsoever and

will do whatever. But I think Magneto still shows

At times ship elements of humanity. Like I think

he kept magneto probably has the ability to do

what he needs to do to get his goal achieved

But I do think there's still some humanity left

in him that might hold him off in certain occasions

Which makes him such a great character, but also

hinders him from being completely successful

at times and why he Always straddles that line

of being good and evil, you know kind of being

an x -men leader or being an x -men villain All

right moving on to the next category And the

next category is staying in the world of x -men

best x -men artist and the nominees are Jim Lee

John Byrne and Andy Kubert and the Geek Oscar

goes to Andy Kubert I was the only one Jim Lee.

I was kind of surprised by that. I almost I Kind

of wrote that in without my goal chunks going

with Jim Lee But you went I was gonna say you

guys definitely thought I was going Jim Lee probably

yeah I really curious about this what inspired

you to go with Qbert. Um, well basically I Really

like what Lee did when he first started the the

x1 series in 1991, but he only did the first

11 issues of that series and He only did a select

few issues from the uncanny title so I looked

at a what Cuber did and I sort of have a running

list of favorite covers throughout my X -Men

fandom and Cuber comes up a lot and I really

like his stuff and just his body of work I think

sort of just was enough to outweigh Jim Lee for

me, I guess. Greg I know you you're the you're

the true artist here. So I know you would as

well as anyone and I think you're probably more

red X -Men than maybe all of us was anyone who

I didn't include in the nominees that should

have been should have been added Terry Dotson,

but I extremely love his and he doesn't do X

-Men way too often to be really Associated with

the X -Men. I think you could go Chris Pichallo

But he's I think at this point kind of more known

for his work on a spider -man and those those

are definitely more recent examples of people

to work on X -Men stuff, but other than that

they're just Nothing really that sticks out to

me. Jim Lee is definitely a big name that definitely

developed through X -Men, but I don't think you

could really nail him down just for the X -Men.

The only one that I might throw in there would

be an 80s X -Men artist, which was Sylvestri.

Yeah, Sylvestri is really good. He had a lot

of good stuff. But I don't associate him with

just X -Men. There's a lot of other stuff, more

indie -type stuff that I kind of associate him

with. Qbert does kind of go off and do other

titles, but I kind of mostly associate him...

with x -men i just love his covers from the 90s

for the most part so i i went with him i do enjoy

me some uh jim lee artwork and i've i've never

it's good but i i've never just been a humongous

fan of the old school artwork for some reason

i do enjoy it but as far as my tastes go i don't

tend to lean that way i do enjoy it though Yeah,

I'm the same way. It's such a different medium

when you go to the old school stuff. The tools

they were working with weren't nearly as advanced

as the ones we have today. So what they did was

very impressive, but it's definitely, it's like

seeing it in like going from 3D to 2D or something

like that. It's definitely a drastic change.

I will say my favorite cover, I'm pretty sure,

well this week it is anyway, but my favorite

cover. from the X -Men of all time, I'm pretty

sure is X -Men number 11, which is done by Jim

Lee. But like I mentioned, I just think Hubert

did so much more. I think for this particular

category, he was the better fit. All righty.

All right. Let's move on to the next category.

And that is best superhero team leader. And the

nominees are Cyclops. Captain America. Get ready

for the booze and Superman. Yeah And zombies

coming in and the geek Oscar goes to To no one

surprise Captain America. Oh, thank gosh I voted

for cap Greg. You'd probably be surprised No,

not really. I know you like cap. And by the way,

I wasn't surprised by you going for Cuber We've

kind of discussed that and I knew you had a thing

Good memory. See your memories not all that bad.

I remember I remember the important stuff like

that Priorities like we've all expressed our

enjoyment of Captain America pretty well So I

think it's pretty obvious why he won that category.

So let's move on to the next category and that

is best comic book antihero and the nominees

are Deathstroke Wolverine and The Punisher and

the Geek Oscar goes to The Punisher I wouldn't

want Wolverine, I was the lone wolf there. I

thought Greg, you'd go Wolverine, but you want

Punisher. He's not super anti -hero, especially

at this point with him, well, he's dead now,

but with him running the school, definitely killing

people definitely makes them anti, makes Punisher

an anti -hero. Wolverine is a tough guy, but

I don't think he is really an anti -hero, especially

in this day and age. Yeah, I would say like when

he was first established I think he maybe fit

that bill but I could see the argument maybe

that he's Evolved beyond that and then tastes

his overall change. But uh, yeah makes makes

sense. But Chuck you went with Punisher as well.

I did I just think like that's just the first

one that pops in my head when I think of Antihero

or vigilante is just the classic Version of that

for me. I am a big Deathstroke fan though. I

will say but Don't know why but I've really really

loved the Thomas Jean version of Punisher. Maybe

I'm Alone in that but for some reason that you're

not alone just like Yeah, that that just like

strikes chords with me. I don't know why like

I just really like that movie I always think

of that when I think of like antihero vigilante

type character All right, very nice very nice

and the last category for for the comic book

section and that is most iconic logo And the

nominees are Batman Superman yuck and the flash

and the award goes to Get ready Greg Superman

My first thought was I want to go Batman, but

then I'm like well which Batman symbol Like to

me the 1989 batman symbol wouldn't like the yellow

and the black one of my all -time favorite logos,

but it changes so much Superman s has kind of

stayed the same throughout his entire time for

the most part. So that's kind of my my reasoning

for going with superman, but uh Great chuck is

that i was kind of curious of why you went with

superman as well Uh, basically the reason I just

went with superman is because that Logo is known

the world over. I mean you could literally go

to just about any country and Flash that little

logo and people would know what it was. I just

think more so than Batman. I just think it's

like universally recognizable Makes sense. I

was curious Greg were similar to with the artist

any other logos it Could I get one here? The

third one was hard. I figured the flash, but

because I wanted to get DC represented, but I

couldn't think of any other logos that might

have been a good choice. All three were DC though,

Dan. I know, I know. But like any other categories,

we didn't have much DC. So I figured we might

go DC all for one, but any other logos come to

mind that maybe should have been nominated? I'd

say BPRD, but that's because I'm kind of infatuated

with those stories. I do enjoy those comics Yeah,

a lot of them have changed Captain America's

is just a star for the most part which kind of

represents a lot of different stuff I debated

about X -Men, but you know that could yeah that

kind of morphed around a lot You can't really

peg down just the X That's a tough one. Um, yeah,

but here's you know listeners to see like if

there are certain other Infamous logos that maybe

should have been included maybe green lantern,

you know that maybe might be one another gc But

and then I feel like there's uh can be a lot

of confusion with the flash's logo I feel like

isn't there a lot of other characters with lightning

bolts kind of going up? Uh, probably I would

assume Maybe spider -man his logo. Yeah spider

-man. Yeah the fat spider Can you bring that

fly over to me? What do you think was in that

fly? I do agree with you, Greg, though. I think

the Flash's logo could sometimes be to the less

casual fan, I guess, or the more casual fan,

however you would say that. You probably could

fuse the Flash logo with like, you know, Captain

Marvel from DC, Shazam. Yeah, it's true. Black

Adam and stuff like that, so yeah, good point.

Alright, let's move on to the next section. The

Miscellaneous Award. It's kind of a little bit

of fun here. Let's see how this one goes. The

first award is for Best Way to Time Travel. And

the nominees are The TARDIS, Doctor Who. So you

actually live up here on a cloud in a box? I

have done for a long time now. Blimey, you really

know how to sulk, don't you? I'm not sulking!

You live in a box! That's no more a box than

you are a governess. Oh, spoken like a man. You

know, you're the same as all the rest. Sweet

little Clara, works at the Rose and Crown, ideas

above her station. Well, for your information,

I'm not sweet on the inside and I'm certainly

not - It's called the Targis. It can travel anywhere

in time and space. And it's mine. Please. A phone

booth, Bill and Ted. One time traveling telephone

dude. Strange things are afoot at the Circle

K. I'm here to help you with your history report.

What? That book will give you the number of any

place you want to go. Let's switch out and touch

something. And the DeLorean, back to the future.

Wait a minute, wait a minute Doc. Are you telling

me you built a time machine? Kind of a DeLorean

the way I see it if you're gonna build a time

machine into a car why not do it some style Besides

the stainless steel construction made the flux

dispersal And the geek Oscar goes to the TARDIS

doctor who Yeah, I went with TARDIS cuz I would

the glory and little little unreliable, you know

has gotten into some people back to places They

didn't want to go the loins iconic But if I had

to choose which one I'm going which one I'm gonna

travel back in time with that's I'm gonna go

with TARDIS. It gives you more options Yes, sir.

It's you know, it's a little bit more reliable

in there. You can sleep Well, it's not reliable

at all Well, I mean more yeah true and but it's

got room. It's got more leg room. I like leg

room It's bigger on the inside. You have a place

to sleep at night Yeah, but but Chuck I know

you to go with Lorian. It is iconic. Are you

very disappointed that it didn't win? Um, a little

bit. I mean not really. I'm comfortable in my

own boat there. Here's another thing that might

convince you that the TARDIS is a better choice,

Chuck. The TARDIS is time and relative dimension

in space. So not only is it a time machine, but

it can move to different dimensions it can move

in space as well so it's not just okay you have

to drive down this road and you're going to appear

this road either in the past or the future you

can move to different planets and like we said

before it's much more comfortable to sleep in

that does sound very cool actually i would say

i would give you this that does sound like the

most effective way to time travel but sort of

sort of the way i looked at this was the coolest

way to time travel And any time that I get to

drive a sports car and, you know, get up to 88

miles per hour and get struck by lightning. Yes,

that is pretty cool. I'm just I'm just digging

it. Plus all the all the crazy controls in there

on the dashboard and everything. Oh, Tardis has

crazy control. It's got a nice switches all over

the freaking console. Plus plus the you know,

the future DeLorean can double as. Basically

your own personal private jet. You can just kind

of fly it around. Yeah, interesting enough both

of them don't need roads So there you go, and

yeah, and the TARDIS is a nicely lovely shade

of blue. I got a Nice it is a lovely shade of

blue. All right kind of staying in the Ville

vehicle realm best space vehicle and the nominees

are the Millennium Falcon the Star Trek Enterprise

and Serenity foam firefly and the winner is in

the clean sweep the millennium falcon that's

kind of just no i think that's a no -do situation

we could just move on from three guys who don't

really watch star trek yeah and love star wars

yeah kind of obvious but i was trying to think

of other iconic space ones and most of them all

were from star wars so it's like the death star

or the x -wing i'm like all right but all right

next one greatest geek weapon and the nominees

are the lightsaber what is it your father's lightsaber

this is the weapon of a jedi knight not as clumsy

or random as a blast an elegant weapon for a

more civilized age For over a thousand generations,

the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace

and justice in the Old Republic, before the dark

times, before the Empire. I took the liberty

of coming up with some options. This one's fun.

She's been fitted with electrical relays that

allow you to... What about this one? No, no,

that's just a prototype. What's it made of? Vibranium.

It's stronger than steel and a third the weight.

It's completely vibration -absorbent. How come

it's not a standard issue? That's the rarest

metal on Earth. What you holding there? That's

all we've got. You quite finished, Mr. Stark?

I'm sure the captain has some unfinished business.

What do you think? Yes, I think it works. And

the proton pack. from Ghostbusters. And the award

goes to... The Proton Pack from Ghostbusters.

Wow! Yeah. What? I know. I... I was surprised,

because I voted for Proton Pack. I'm like, you

know how to put Proton Pack, vote here, because

no one else is... Everyone's gonna go with Lightsaber.

But Greg went with Proton Pack, too, so... Yes,

I did. I'm curious to hear your reasoning for

it. Captain America's shield is just a giant

metal disc that it is... It's cool, but it doesn't

have a lot of flair to it to be quite honest

I don't know what my reasoning was for the lightsaber

But I was just like I really love the proton

pack and it just like with all these Sparks of

light flying out of them all over the place and

it Wrangles in the ghosts and everything. I don't

know. I just thought it was kind of cool and

I thought it was More of an interesting choice

lightsaber. So the reason I want proton pack

is I went back to my childhood and When I was

a kid, I so wanted a proton pack. I just I don't

know what about it like I Love the cartoon in

the in the movie and I just I don't know I always

wanted a proton pack never really wanted a lightsaber

So that's why I went proton pack, but I know

it's got to be disappointing to you Chuck, right?

Cuz you went with lightsaber. So is it I did

So it may come as a surprise that I didn't pick

the Captain America shield, but yeah, my reasoning

there was that. I wouldn't be nearly as coordinated

with the shield and I'm pretty sure if I threw

the shield, it would not come back. If I threw

it, my weapon is gone. So you throw it once like,

oh, well, that was fun. It's like having one

lifeline in, you know, millionaire. It's like,

well, that's done. But I've I've always wanted

a lightsaber and plus they're so light It's just

like one single thing you can carry on your belt.

You can cut through anything. That's true Awesome,

but what a great uses for the lightsaber Alrighty

next category or next nomination or go to The

best villains that never get old those people

we just love to see get hit with lasers get chopped

up get killed you know, get overthrown, what

have you. And the nominees are zombies, Nazis,

and stormtroopers. I'm realizing that would be

an awesome movie. The thing I'm writing does

have zombies and does have Nazis. And the geek

Oscar goes to the undead zombies. Honestly, I

was a little surprised. Greg, you went with Nazis.

I did go with Nazis. So you just can't get enough

of seeing Nazis getting blown up? Is that it?

Yeah, because they were really douchebags. The

zombies just can't control themselves. The Nazis

are making an actual choice to kill people and

they destroyed a huge hunk of a religious faction.

That's just not right. You shouldn't be killing

people for their choices, to be quite honest.

So I went with Nazis. It's also because they

were an actual real threat. Wait, zombies could

be one day. Stormtroopers aren't real They're

from a galaxy far away. That was my understanding.

Yeah, and I feel like this first I felt like

stormtroopers were space Nazis So I felt like

they were imitation Nazis so that's why they

kind of are I mean that's what storm named Nazis

had stormtroopers too, so Chuck I know you it

was zombies and is that more so because of Watching

walking dead recently because I almost thought

you would go with stormtroopers Yeah, I think

maybe a walking dead has something to do with

that. But I think it's just like You know You

really don't feel bad You know, you could take

out hordes and hordes of zombies and it really

doesn't you know phase you at all so it's kind

of like the the go -to The go -to bad guy that

could throw in there and just have your heroes

kind of mow down So stormtroopers, I never thought

of I guess yeah, I guess they would be but I

guess they just seemed so Easy to me like like

a zombie would feel more threatening to me than

a stormtrooper Yeah, that way that but You could

trick them really easily and like, you know zombies

you can't trick because they don't think Alright

just like go that way. Nope. It's not working

Alright, so the next award is for best worst

movie and the nominees are Birdemic shock and

terror Birdemic shock and terror Sharknado and

The Fantastic Four by Roger Corman. And the award

goes to Birdemic, Shock and Terror. Nice. No

surprise there. It's probably one we've all watched.

We watched the 90s X -Men or Fantastic Four together

as well. But we did have fun watching that. Just

watch clips of it. It is it is awful awful in

the wrong way. You have to watch it with friends,

though That's what makes it really great. Yeah,

if you watch it by yourself, it's just terrible.

But it's depressing Yeah, I feel like yeah like

and the reason I went with that is I feel like

the Fantastic Four movie at least had somewhat

of a plot. They were trying to go for a birdemic

lake their stuff just didn't even make sense.

It's like, why are you doing what you're doing?

And then the sound totally cuts out at the beach

in kindergarten. All you hear is like wind blowing

against the maker. Oh my God, we have to stay

away from the birds. Should we stay inside this

motel where there's no birds whatsoever and barricade

it? No, let's go in the car where there's freaking

windows. We'll protect ourselves against these

coat hangers. All righty now moving on to last

section of the night as we look at the last year

2014 and things that happened and the first category

is most overblown news story of 2014 and the

nominations are the new Captain America and Thor

characters Gamer gates and the interview craziness

and the award goes to the interview craziness

that occurred I Mean I almost went with a Thor

cap stuff But I figured since the interview stuff

legitimately was a national almost an international

Incident that that kind of was a little bit more

over anything else to add to that or we want

to move on to the next category I just didn't

know I know what the interviews about but Would

talk about gamer gape, but the more the less

you know about it the better just Google it It's

just a it's a ridiculous thing Billy Billy when

I truly thought was overblown was the cap and

Thor thing because it's it's a comic book who

really cares what very true That is a good point.

That is a very I know we argue about it like

geeks, but they change cap to the Falcon and

Thor to a woman. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I know

what you're talking about now Exactly. It's over

one that it's already been forgotten about That

may we might have to put a write -in and put

in that and since like we forgot all about it

and the fact that in a few months It's gonna

be undone. Anyway, so Really good. All right.

So the next category is biggest letdown of 2014

in the nominees are Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

the movie Amazing spider -man 2 and Gotham and

greg's life what no i'm kidding and the award

goes to teenage mutant ninja turtles the movie

wow that was awful no surprise yeah see i went

with gotham because i figured we all kind of

knew turtles was going to be bad but i've had

some faith in gotham but it kind of all let me

down though i should say i haven't watched after

the third episode but I didn't I didn't mind

Gotham for the most part. I thought it was halfway

decent, but I forgot to watch it So I'll probably

binge watch at a later date. Yeah Yeah, you can

hear more about our opinion on Teenage Mutant

Ninja Turtles if you go to spammer encounters

and turtle powers where we talked about the movie

itself, so No need to rehash those bad memories

All right moving on to the next category the

best character of 2014 and the nominees are Rocket

Raccoon from the Guardians of the Galaxy, The

Flash from The Flash, and Captain America from

Captain America, The Winter Soldier. And the

award goes to Rocket Raccoon. What, what? Ooh,

wow. Yeah, I went with Rocket because, I don't

know, I feel like he's been everywhere. And I

know Flash has been popular, but I feel like

considering the overall box office success of

Guardians and the fact that the Guardians, the

Rocket Raccoon comic book went crazy in sales,

so I went with that. If you look at his increase

in popularity, it's kind of got insane, where

Flash is definitely popular. But I know Chucky

went with Flash, so are you a little disappointed

that he didn't win? Not really. I mean, he could

go either way on this one. I'm actually wearing

a Guardians of the Galaxy t -shirt I have rocket

on there, but um, I just kind of I guess I figured

everybody else would go the rocket so I went

flash but fair enough I think like you could

definitely go either way that but flash is like

a Surprisingly sustaining itself this whole first

season and it's been a really great surprise

for me So that's kind of why I mean that way

mine one of the things the flash is better than

arrow because I kind of think that Yeah, I'm

not gonna lie, I'll agree with that. I still

haven't seen Flash yet. Arrow has definitely,

it has its moments, but it's definitely subsided

from the second season. Yeah, definitely. I have

to agree with you there. I will say the last

episode or two was really good, though. Moving

on to the next category, and that is the biggest

surprise of 2014. Kind of hard I'm gonna lie

to come up with these so apologize if they're

not that big of surprises, but the nominees are

Hydra takeover of shield Death of Wolverine and

the DC Marvel movie announcements and the award

goes to Hydra's takeover of shield But anything

to add to that it was just kind of you know,

uh to me I I figured the other ones we kind of

saw coming but that one was uh I didn't think

it'd be nearly as elaborate. Yeah, that's pretty

much what I thought. I agree with that. What

did I vote for, by the way? You voted for DC

Marvel movie announcements. Okay, but I agree

with that anyway. I agree with you guys. Stop

being so difficult, Rick. Dammit, Chuck! Moving

on to the most important category of not only

tonight, probably of awards history of all time.

It's this is probably going to go down. We should

probably mark this moment. Take some time to

soak it in because it's very vital to our existence

of human beings. And that is the best talking

in circles episode of 2014. And the nominees

are Space Pope. Coast to coast. extreme overkill

or the action hero draft. And the award goes

to us. Cause you know, we did them all, but in

reality, extreme overkill. I don't know how to

talk about that. The talk about our own podcast,

our own podcast. I don't know. It's kind of weird.

It's a little narcissistic, but you know, we

can, I think we can handle the pat on the back.

If I'm curious to hear if that, you know, that'd

be kind of a good thing to throw out there to

the. Everyone out there if they have a favorite

episode that we did I think the one we probably

got the most feedback from was probably the March

badass Brackets and action hero draft stuff,

but personally she overkill as a has a has a

personal place in my heart in space Pope as well

because that's when we did all together which

was you know where the infamous sitting in the

bucket story started so Probably the most important

episode of our existence My greatest contribution

to this whole thing. The most important Frank

movie. All righty. So the last award of the evening.

And that is the ultimate geek moment of 2014.

And the nominees are landing on a comet by NASA,

I guess. You mean the NSA? Guardians of the Galaxy

movie Also by NASA maybe this one is Star Wars

episode 7 movie trailer launches in the award

goes to and perhaps a stunning upset landing

on a comet you went with actual geekness not

just the fake yeah make -believe but Also talked

about that on one of our podcasts I'm on a comet.

But yeah, when we actually landed on the comet,

it was kind of a cool moment in science history.

So yeah. Yes. And the fact that it was real,

I think sort of kind of outweighs the other thing.

Yeah. And it's a it's a good and you know, it

could lead to future films. You know, are we

getting to we you know, who knows what what what

impact it could have. On the earth itself. Exactly.

Yeah, it could be used for evil. Dr. Doom, who's

the most - the villain most likely to succeed,

can use the common stuff to destroy Earth. So,

yeah, it all ties together. Alrighty, well I

hope you enjoyed the Geek Oscars of 2014. Let

us know what you think, what we got wrong, what

nominees should have been included, you know,

different awards we can do for next year. So,

trying something new hopefully worked out. But

we like to end each episode with a letter. And

Chuck, you're up this week. Let's hear what your

letter's about. My letter is this is probably

going to be a little bit of old news by the time

this comes out but I think it was a big sort

of a big event that happened and Got a lot of

attention for a lot of people and that was the

40th anniversary of Saturday Night Live Which

was a pretty pretty great episode a Lot of people

had a good time watching that. So here's my little

letter written to Saturday Night Live Dear SNL.

So, you just had yourself a pretty big anniversary.

40 years. Pretty amazing when you think about

it. Where has the time gone? Four decades is

a long time for a show to be entertaining its

audiences. I mean, think about it. You came out

a mere three months after the original Jaws movie

in 1975. Granted, you haven't entirely been on

your A -game those last few years. But I gotta

hand it to you. On your 40th birthday, he got

down and brought it. Now there's a great deal

of nostalgia there, so just simply bringing back

some of your more iconic characters is likely

to be enough to satiate your longtime fans. The

likes of Will Ferrell, Adam Sandler, Eddie Murphy,

Bill Murray, Jim Carrey, Michael Myers and Dana

Carvey, Dan Ackroyd, Norm MacDonald, Jimmy Fallon,

all made the night very special indeed. But for

me, the most notable skit was an old favorite

of mine, Celebrity Jeopardy. Sean Connery is

back harassing Alex Trebek, and Turd Ferguson

even joins the party. Got to admit, Alec Baldwin

was pretty hilarious with his Tony Bennett impersonation,

and how funny was Jim Carrey's Matthew McConaughey?

That voiceover recording just had me rolling

on the floor. This really brought me back to

some of my favorite times of SNL. I know I'm

not old enough to have enjoyed the heyday in

the late 70s and 80s, but there's a lot of great

stuff coming out with Will Ferrell there in the

late 90s and early 2000s. Back to the present

though. Although there were some less memorable

skits on the 40th anniversary show, I think overall

it was a terrific tribute episode and it was

truly incredible to see so many former cast members

reunited in one night. I'm not sure what lies

ahead for SNL. I'm really not familiar with any

of their current cast members. But if nothing

else, we had a pretty great memory with this

40th anniversary spectacular. I may just be like

Aunt Netta watching it every night in the VCR.

Sincerely, the Saturday Night Live fan! Yeah,

very nice. I didn't catch all of that, but I

did catch a good deal of it Which like the celebrity

jeopardy thing was I was actually trying to watch

it at work And then once he did the whore wheat

the whore reads line. I was done. I couldn't

I stop laughing That's that was great or whore

ad yeah, I messed it up so Yeah, that's my favorite.

Uh, my favorite skin of all time is the celebrity

jeopardy stuff and probably because it's a running

Skit like this, you know always a version of

it. So it's not just a one -time thing great

stuff Yeah, I would say though like actually

I've have not I don't tend to watch like Saturday

Night Live beginning the end But I was actually

watching a great deal of clips from this year.

There's actually a pretty good Some good talent

there. I was Kate McKinnon is really funny She's

got a lot of good a lot of good of characters

that she does and So I think it actually like

the cast that they have now. They're really built

in something good But yeah, I'm like you I don't

watch it nearly as much as I did. I think I was

funny I was reading something where it said That

people are most likely to say the best Saturday

Night Live were the ones that the cast when they

were like in middle school and high school Because

that's when people tend to watch it the most

which is kind of true Yeah, I say that's when

I used to watch it the most so Already anything

else before we bring this episode to a close?

I think that's about it. Alright, so there's

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Chuck, I can't believe I'm saying this. You are

also on Twitter. What is your Twitter name? My

Twitter name? I never thought I would utter this

phrase, but... My Twitter name is at heroic age

Chuck Which is if you follow comments, you know

the heroic age stuff, but just kind of threw

that in there So there you go. And Greg, where

can people follow you on Twitter? I am at the

create porch and I am at movie revolt But the

best way probably in contact with us is by going

to geekcastrea .com or nerdly .co .uk But that'll

be it for this week. We'll be back next week

same time Same channel, same podcast feed, but

for now. This has been Chuck. This has been Greg,

or the transgender Tinder person. And this has

been Dan, and we've been talking in circles.

We'll see you next week. That sounds like...

I'm waiting for that movie to happen. Transgender

Tinder person. Tonight on Mori. This should have

been a category on our Oscars. Best transgender

Tinder conversation. There was no conversation.

There was me going, oh, this girl looks cute.

Yeah. She's got a really nice Adam's apple. I

did not notice an Adam's apple.

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