Talking in Circles
Kingdom Come, True Detective, and 2014 Previews

About this Episode
This is Jason David Frank and you're listening
to the Geek Cash Radio Network. Hey guys, Dan
here. Just wanted to make a quick note before
the episode gets underway. This episode was actually
recorded second because we wanted to get our
Super Bowl episode out there before the Super
Bowl, and this one was actually recorded live
at Greg Beppler Studios, aka Greg's Kitchen Table.
So it took a little bit longer to edit, but hopefully
it all works out in the end. Anyways, on with
the show. Here is Talking in Circles, episode
3, live from the Electric City. You are now on
the inside of what I like to call the circle
of trust. We are all connected in a great circle
of life. You know something Bert? I think you
and I are going in circles. It feels like we're
going in circles. The circle is now complete.
When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I
am the master. Because it's a circle. Yeah, we
heard about the circle. Yes, we're familiar with
shapes. This is Greg. This is Chuck. And this
is Dan. And we are Talking in Circles, brought
to you by the GeekCast Radio Network. Episode
2 here for all you out there. This is a special
live and in -person episode taking place in the
good old Scranton Pia. Maybe one of the first
for Geocast Radio. We tend to do it over Skype,
but we had some time. We do this in actual person,
which is great for those that are joining us
for the first time. You're not alone because
this is only episode two. And what we are with
Talking in Circles is we are the sports talk
show about pop culture. Basically, we're going
to get lost in conversation about a little bit
of everything. And starting off, what we'll do
is talk about what we've been up to in the past
week here in the world of geekdom. And I'll kick
things off here to start. And what I've been
up to is a few things, and this is kind of in
response to... what greg you said last time we
talked a little bit about superman and you mentioned
that there aren't really any great superman stories
and i can kind of see where that's coming from
but uh he's boring he's a little bit i understand
that but i think there are some good ones out
there and what i would point you to is kingdom
come in a lot of ways it is a response to that
criticism that superman's a boring character
that there's not he's past his prime came out
in the 90s and i think you might appreciate it
too because it's on an art perspective because
it's Drawn by al troughs and his part is just
amazing to look at panel by panel and kind of
lost in it and it's very lifelike. Yes. Yeah,
very full realism. Is that the right word? Yes.
All right. Yeah, I don't know much about it when
it comes to art. It's a very famous story. A
lot of people know about it. But the premise
is it's about 50 years in the future. Superman
has retired. New superheroes that are more violent
and vicious have taken over. Yay. We know where
Greg stands, but after a tragic accident Superman's
kind of brought back into the fold and his conflict
ensues. The flash broke a hip. Possibly, but
it's interesting because it is great on that
that criticism of where superheroes were in the
90s is you think about it at that time. That's
what image is hitting big, Punisher's really
not at the height of his popularity, but you
know superheroes are different than they were
and interesting on that aspect and this the story
overall is really in depth and there's the main
character that's kind of in it too as a specter
um i think that's how you say it who plays in
the background and uh the the art is fantastic
like i mentioned and it's just written really
well it's one of those Comics and graphic novels
that you can show people and say hey graphic
novels and comics are written as well as any
Novel out there because it's it is I mean the
the wording and everything is very existential
and philosophical Philosophical again, yes So
yeah, I would recommend that even if you're not
a Superman fan and a lot of people probably already
read it I heard of it, but I'm apprehensive to
DC. I'm a Marvel guy. I think we all are but
so but Who was the author of that damn thing?
Do you know offhand or...? I do not. I'm gonna
say... I don't know. I will get back to you and
I'll check that out. I should have researched
this beforehand, but I didn't because I am ill
-prepared. But anyways, and I just want to talk
about one thing real quick. It's only one episode
in, so I can't talk about it in great and depth,
but it is a new HBO... tv drama cop drama called
true detective starring like the man of the hour
matthew mcconaughey who recently nominated for
an oscar for that was virus club and also a huge
everybody start bumping your chest yeah also
using wolf of wall street he would keep doing
that entire episode apparently that Uh, you'll
wake up with big bruises on your chest. That's
the main reason I didn't want to see that movie.
But yeah, but the show True Detective, it's interesting
because it takes place in two different time
periods. Matthew McConaughey and Riley Waterhillson
play two partners, but 17 years apart, you have
one crime going on and then they're bringing
any of you 17 years later. Don't really know
why yet. It's just interesting seeing those two
characters that far apart and both of those actors
can pull it off. It's really moody. It takes
a different spin on the whole genre of serial
killers because there's tons of serial killer
shows out there, but this is a little bit different.
It's not really about the serial killer or the
case. It's more on the characters. And I love
Harrelson and McConaughey and both of them are
just really interesting. And what's cool about
Harrelson, Harrelson's character is he's just
a general guy. He's just, he's not a super cop.
He's just a normal cop who makes mistakes. He's,
but McConaughey is more of a savant. He, he's
an interesting like Extrovert, I guess he says
things that really make no sense to a lot of
people in real life and in this show If you're
a fan of any of those guys or you're if you do
you're looking for a different spin on crime
dramas Check it out. It's only one episode in
next episodes coming in soon. So and it's also
looks fantastic. I guess I will Sometimes it
can look fantastic and not have naked people
Maybe and there might be naked people. I don't
know actually there are but they're dead bodies
I don't know if that goes for you, but not into
necrophilia. Sorry Thank God. All right into
dead people zombie wise not people inserting
things into Well, unless it's a head and you're
killing them Well, yeah, an axe through the head
if they're the undead. That's fine. That's standard.
Yes. Alright, so I guess I will throw it over
to Greg real quick and we can talk about what
you've been watching this past week. I found
a really great movie on Netflix. It was an independent
movie, which I'm not too big on independent movies.
It was really good. It was really fanciful. It
was called The History of Future Folk. Weirdly
enough one of the I think it was like in the
second scene we get to experience the acting
chops of D Snyder which I don't think you get
a lot of movies with him in it. I don't believe
so Unless you count his music and the thing is
I don't think he was that bad in it because When
his when he was off screen, I kind of forgot
about his character. He wasn't awful enough that
I remembered him He wasn't so good that I remembered
him either But it was just kind of in between
which I I think kind of fit with being a second
a second or third to your character. It's a little
bit weird because pretty much the movie is about
this alien that comes down to try and start off
an invasion of Earth with this virus that will
make people fall asleep because his planet needs
another place to live because there's a meteor
coming their way. So they find Earth and decide
that that's the place to go. So they send this
general down and he's gonna set off and set off
this virus and everybody's gonna fall asleep.
Aliens are gonna come in. attack the planet pretty
much take it over but this general that they
send down finds love for music because apparently
there's music nowhere else in the galaxy but
here which i found a little bit odd but even
odder than that as he's going through the store
he listens to music gets really into it then
he magically finds a guitar The fact that he
knows the guitar is the instrument that plays
this music because he has only been listening
to it on a radio I find to be a little Outstanding,
but then he starts to like he doesn't actually
play it. He kind of more air guitars it which
that kind of blew my mind I'm like, he knows
how to hold it and everything. That's impressive.
He's an advanced species though. That's good
Yeah, they do cover that up later on when when
an assassin comes to take him out who they become
friends throughout movie sort of but you kind
of find out later that they they do pick up on
things really well because he kind of comes up
on stage and plays in this like little rock band
type of scenario because the general that came
down all of a sudden starts playing a rock band
he's married with a kid and he's kind of using
his whole backstory is kind of like a fictional
tale where he plays music about and everything
and the music in this in this movie is is really
great But it's it's very fanciful. It doesn't
take itself too seriously because their outfits
from their planet Are very weird. They have buckets
on their head, but they kind of make fun of that
in later scenes, which I thought was uh Great
and it's a trading between serious and funny
at the same time and they do make up with some
of the makeup later on When the the true villain
comes in his makeup is really great. It's just
a fun fun movie You can't take it too seriously,
but I think it's great and the characters falling
in love finding their reasons to save the planet
It's it's just an amazing movie altogether. I
saw it, too I actually talked about a little
bit on MWIRE and the way I described it It's
like that movie inside Lewin Davis crossed with
John Carpenter movie with a mix of the Power
Rangers. Go, go Power Rangers! Yeah, that's a
good way to go with it. The music in it is really
good. It's really, it's self -deprecating in
some instances. It's a fun film for sure. Like
you said, it doesn't take itself too seriously.
And for the budget, which is obviously is really
cheap because there are scenes of them like running
through New York City and you can tell no one
else on the street knew they were shooting a
movie because they're just looking at them really
weird. When they run over the bridge, people
are stopped at the end of this bridge and you
can see the expressions on their face. going
what the hell is going on here what are the people
wearing buckets on their head it was yeah I'm
surprised no one called the police because the
guy's running around with like a fake ray gun
I guess I just assumed that's just it's Wednesday
at New York City yeah is there a comic -con in
town maybe they did it during comic -con weekend
so it made sense but yeah cuz they kind of do
look like comic -con outfits in a way I could
see them like if this becomes popular Like every
comic -con will you'll have a slew of these because
they're easy out to do it. I'm guessing Yeah,
and they're very lovable characters too. Even
the assassin the first assassin that comes down
he he's very humorous character I I thought and
what how did you how did you check it out? I
found it on Netflix. I was just flipping through
and I believe the image they had for it For the
little icon was them with the bucket head on
and I was like, what the hell is this? And then
I read the description saw that it was a science
fiction thing. It was comedy so that it was just
kind of Whimsical looking and and the the title
kind of got to me and so I decided to watch it
the one day It was it was really good. Cool.
Cool. You've been watching anything else another
a find on Netflix Which I think just recently
came on there was a sexy evil genius That I have
not seen. I right off the bat, I'm going to tell
you that I really loved it. Are you into kind
of an autobiography? No, no, I'm not that delusional.
It's kind of dense, but it's kind of like done
it type of movie. But backwards, it's very dense.
It's got some great actors in it, though. It's
got Seth Green, Katie Sackoff, Anthony Michael
Hall, Michelle Trachtenberg. And one of the bald
ones. I can't keep track of the bald ones. I'm
sorry, everybody. All I know is Alec. I think
he's the most well -known, famous. The one that
hates gay people, the one that makes fun of gay
people, or the one that is gay. Mind blown Yeah,
it's the most famous one he's one that was on
30 rock the one that looks kind of like his face
is blown up in the last few years Yeah, but you
see he's still a good -looking gentleman. Yeah,
I would call him sexy evil man Yeah, but the
sexy evil genius in this though is Katie Sakoff
who does phenomenal if you ask me she is treading
between she seriously treads between sexy evil
and genius she pulls it off well i thought is
she i don't i'm not familiar with her is she
and she was in um the newer version of battle
star galactica she was playing what used to be
a male role which they switched to a female and
i'm having trouble remembering the the character's
name which i'm probably going to get a whole
a whole lot of shit for everybody did their parts
really well sets green kind of plays his his
typical part in the movie where he's kind of
a uh intelligent man who's very nerdy and kind
of eccentric but that's the parts we kind of
look him in and everybody else fills in their
roles pretty well like i said it's kind of dense
you really have to pay attention to it because
everybody's it's essentially they all meet up
at this bar and they all knew katy sakoff's character
before and they they kind of knew some of them
knew about each other like a little bit from
katy sakoff But none of them know exactly why
they're there and they're trying to figure it
out the whole time While waiting for her to show
up and while waiting for other characters to
show up. Okay, and there's there's some little
things in there that point to Katie Sakoff's
character murdering somebody and Having recently
gotten out and so these people aren't sure if
what they're there for It's just incredible.
It's who's done it type of movie Okay, cool.
Anything else you wanted to check out or talk
about? No, I think that was all I got done this
weekend. All right, Chuck, I guess we'll pass
that on over to you. Anything you wanted to talk
about? You've been watching, listening, reading,
thinking about, drawing, I don't know. Anything?
Well, I have a couple of things on something
I've been watching and a couple of things that
I've been reading. First off, I wanted to start
off with, have you guys been following Agents
of Shield? I stopped the fifth episode in, so
now I have to catch up. I think I stopped around
seven. I'm not exactly sure. I haven't been keeping
up either. I'm still hanging on. Stage five,
Clinger. But I'm really hoping that it starts
getting better. It's just really not what I expected
it to be. I could really understand why you guys
stopped watching it. It's just kind of mediocre.
There's no actual superheroes going on from what
I watched up to it's it's all been like mostly
street level type like, sea level characters
that I really don't have any feeling for. Yeah,
that's been the big knock on the show without
giving really anything away, and I know you guys
want to probably catch up on them at some point,
but they kind of cover what happened to Coulson
after Avengers. That was the only serious thing
that was keeping me attached to the show at all,
quite frankly. Actually, I was kind of even disappointed
with the way they... presented that. I heard
rumblings of it, like how it kind of worked.
He has three testicles now. She did it. I was
really interested in that portion of it, too.
So I looked it up. I know what happened, but
I guess I don't know how it happened. It's the
best way to explain it. So have they gone into
that, like how it happened? Not really. I mean,
they're kind of keeping it like, you know, shrouded
in mystery for a little bit longer. They kind
of just said that he died and they showed a little
bit and that was about it. But it's really kind
of anti -climactic. I'm going to finish out the
season just to see where it goes. But did Brian
Michael Bendis write that? Because that's how
his stuff. Probably. Yeah, probably. I did hear
a rumor. I don't know if you guys heard this,
but I heard that Lady Sif from Thor is actually
going to appear in an episode. I don't know.
I don't know if there's any truth to that or
if it's just a rumor. I have heard that. I've
just seen like the title for the most part. I
didn't go into it much more than that. Yeah.
Because I guess they're getting a lot of complaints
that it's like, it's a superhero show and there
are zero superheroes on it. Oh, you mean that
thing that I said before? Yeah. Well, I heard
they're going to have Stan Lee in it too. Has
that happened yet? No, it has not happened yet,
but I did hear that in the last week that they're
playing that. Oh well, hopefully that gets better.
Are you watching anything else? Um, I'm not really
watching anything else. Been reading some stuff.
Using up some Amazon gift cards that I got for
Christmas and stuff. Picked up some graphic novels
on there. I did read, uh, Batman the Killing
Joke. Okay. Um, which is kind of a classic, I
guess. I don't really think I'll be ruining anything
because that's been out since like the 80s, so.
No! Spoilers! No! Bruce Wayne is Batman. I know
who the red hood is That's an insect joke, but
sorry Everybody I know who it is I could tell
you right now basically like if if you don't
really remember the story that well It's kind
of like the origin of the Joker But there's also
a story going on in the present where he's shoots
Jim Gordon's daughter paralyzes her and you know,
he holds Jim Gordon in this like Abandoned carnival
and strips him down naked and basically tries
to break him mentally He's trying to prove a
point that it just takes one bad day to drive
a sane person mad but I really thought some of
the stuff about the Joker's origin was pretty
interesting like He actually was trying to make
it as a stand -up comedian and he really wasn't
making any money because he kind of sucked and
So it's Carrot Top. Yeah, minus the props. Carrot
Top is actually halfway decent. His older stuff,
I believe, is better than I haven't seen in any
of his movies. And nowhere near as ripped as
Carrot Top. That guy's like a beast now. So he
looks like, his face looks like it's decaying.
The guy from that one Cher movie? Yo, the math.
That's all I can think of. Sorry, Carrot Top.
You're probably the nicest gentleman ever. I
shouldn't say things like that. I'm going to
hell for it. It could have been more if you could
have said he looked like Cher. We'll put a disclaimer
at the beginning of the podcast. If you're Carrot
Top, please don't listen to this. We got Carrot
Top and Brian Michael Obendis so far, and we're
two episodes in, so we're aiming high. Carrot
Top's parental discretion was advised. Honey,
don't watch that. It's a podcast. You don't watch
it. But anyway. But he has a wife and they're
expecting a baby and you know his wife is kind
of on him because he's really not bringing in
any money as a stand -up comedian. And I mean
the other thing is they never really say his
name. Like you know in the Tim Burton movie they
said it was was it Jack something? Say my name.
Jack Napier? Is it Jack Napier? Yeah Napier or
Napier, however you say it. But in the in the
killing joke they never actually say his name
which is kind of cool. It leaves a little bit.
Little bit of mystery but but anyway, he's desperate
from when he gets in with the red hood gang.
They still know who he is He knows it's red hood
But um, it's Sorry we're losing them But they
they try to like they get him to wear the hood
so that they can kind of pin the evening's activities
on him if he gets caught But in the stuff going
on in the present is like really sick and twisted
too. Like the stuff that he's doing with, uh,
I forget Jim Gordon's daughter's name, actually.
Is it Barbara? I thought Barbara is his wife.
I could be wrong. I believe Barbara. I'll look
it up. It could be both. It could be Barbara
Jr., I guess, maybe. But it's really sick. Like
he takes, he takes her clothes off and takes
pictures of her and he shows them to commissioner
Gordon, just trying to break them and stuff.
He doesn't to his credit when Batman arrives
he finds out that he's still in the same sane
state of mind It is Barbara. It is Barbara. Okay,
and the the weird thing is like at the end like
Batman like actually extends an offer to the
Joker because the Joker kind of says, you know,
obviously you had a bad day, too Or else you
wouldn't be dressed like a bat, you know jumping
around the rooftops and Batman said yeah, but
the difference is, you know, I didn't go mad
I could work with you, I can teach you how to
deal with it. And I think for the first time
that I've ever seen, the Joker actually gets
serious for a second and he just says like, no,
it's too late for me. Like he just flat out turns
down his offer and like a little tear comes down
your eye. But the weird thing is the thing that
I hated about the ending is the Joker says it
reminds him of a joke. The whole situation reminds
him of a joke. and he tells this joke and I can't
remember it but Batman actually laughs like he
kind of laughs at the end and I'm like I just
don't think that would happen I don't see Batman
laughing because he always just kind of stares
at you no matter what you're saying but I think
that ending had a lot of scrutiny from fans and
stuff from what I've read anyway yeah I know
a lot of people and there's been a lot of talk
about how people take that ending because I know
a lot of it's like Some say it's a little bit
ambiguous, but some say that he actually killed
the Joker at the end. Yeah, because he reaches
across, you see like a silhouette and he's like,
you know, hitting him in the chest or doing something
there and they don't really say. For the viewers,
Chuck just kind of made a jerk off motion with
his hands. To Greg, it appeared as a jerk off
motion. But I mean, that kind of leads into the
other question I had. Do you guys think that?
It's good to tell a Joker origin story Do you
think it's better to kind of leave his whole
past like shrouded mystery because that kind
of makes him who he is I think it's better to
leave it as a mystery because I think the thing
about Joker's you never understand him or Understand
his motivations. So if you give him an origin
it puts it It answers that question that you
don't want answered. Yeah, and it kind of kind
of gives some some Sympathy and relatability
and stuff like that I think if don't want to
know his feel that strongly where you don't want
to know his origin Just don't read the book and
don't listen to this podcast Just forget what
you just heard right now But I know a lot of
people make have made the claim that that origin
is not is I'm designed just to be the origin
but because there's been some takes on it where
It's like the Dark Knight every time he talks
about how he got the scars. It's a different
story. So Some people have even mentioned that,
like, the idea behind the killer joke was that
it wasn't meant to just tell the origin, but
just be, like, one of the many, I guess. Yeah.
Well, yeah, I mean, you could also look at it
in a way, like, I mean, Joker mentions several
times in the comic that his past really is kind
of fragmented to him. He really can't remember
all of it. So maybe that's kind of a clue to
the reader as, like, you know, this really might
not be the actual truth about how it happened.
I mean, this is kind of like the the movie that
I was discussing before, Evil Sexy Genius, Katie
Sakoff's character is kind of like a Joker type
of character where you don't really know whether
she's lying about her past. See everybody, we've
actually got something to come to a full circle
when we talked about it. Callback. Evil Sexy
Genius, Killer Joke, Circle. It's a circle. And
then Batman the Detective, which goes back to
True Detective. Show over and we're done. See
you next week. No, the show's completely over
now. We just ruined it. We set out for a goal
and we hit it within an hour and 30 minutes.
So we're not saying we're the best podcast ever.
We're just saying we shouldn't be nominated.
We're just saying we're the most complete podcast
ever because a circle is always complete. Yes.
It's circle. But the other thing I wanted to
bring up about the killing joke was I got the
deluxe edition, which is actually recolored.
from the original printed version that came out
in the 80s. I don't know if you guys are familiar
with that at all. No. But they actually, I think,
I think the artist's name was Boland. Was it
Tim Boland or something like that? I will look
it up for you. He, I guess he wanted it colored
a certain way when they did it back in the 80s.
Like he kind of wanted it colored darker and
he wanted the flashbacks black and white and...
It's Brian Boland. Brian Bowen, that's right.
Or you can say Al Bowen from Home Improvement.
I don't think so, Chuck. Greg is my assistant.
He assists me. Back at that time in the 80s,
a lot of things were bright colors and just that
was the way it was. So that's how they did it.
And he never got to see the book done the way
he wanted. So they kind of remastered the deluxe
version. And it was kind of more of what he actually
wanted. I mean I kind of like it. It's it's pretty
cool with the three colored version. So if you
get a chance to check out the deluxe versions
It's pretty cool. I think that's probably I read
and I've read the killer joke and I was the deluxe
version But I didn't even realize it at the time.
So yeah, but that's interesting I did find a
site and I I don't know where it is now somewhere
lost but Internet. Yeah somewhere somewhere in
one of the corners of that thing It had like
kind of a split screen comparison between the
old version and the new version, the colors and
stuff. Do you have a preference? Uh, I don't
know. I mean, at first I kind of liked the original
colors, but then after reading through it, I
kind of liked the remastered version, the recolored
version. Cool. The only other thing I read was
Spider -Man Sinister 6, which is a collection
of Amazing Spider -Man. I think it's like 332
to 337, somewhere in there, in the 90s. I guess
I was kind of getting ready for what they're
going to try to do with the Amazing Spider -Man
movies, because there's rumors of them introducing
enough villains to make a Sinister Six. Yeah,
and even possibly making a Sinister Six movie
as well. Yeah, and I've actually always liked
that villain team because... Well, I really liked
it on the old spider -man cartoon from the 90s
Yeah, even though it was called the insidious
six, but I guess they couldn't spend the money
for the word sinister. I don't know Yeah, they
couldn't they couldn't corral the copyrights
on the word sinister So that was that was on
the x -men cartoon with mr. Sinister. So they
didn't want to confuse people I guess sinister
is too bad of a word. It's like yeah Sinister
is a little too much for Saturday morning cartoon.
I think Disney actually owned the word sinister
up until until they got They got they bought
marble and so now they could actually use sinister
on everything Or they said let's use insidious
because kids don't know what that means I mean,
yeah, I won't go into a lot of detail about that
one, but there's some great art in that and The
classic 90s art that I grew up with I I love
that stuff the bright colors for I mean spider
-man You guys know has one of the best rogues
galleries like any character. I'm in batman usually
Yeah, his villains are so colorful too, you know
like green and yellow and so who was actually
part except There's been so many different versions
of the sentence center six Who was actually part
of the the first center six? Do you remember?
I don't know the mic. Uh, the first one It's
actually included in this in this volume that
I got, it was from Amazing Spider -Man Annual
Number One, I believe. It had Craven, Sandman,
Electro, Doctor Octopus, I wanna say, was it
Vulture, and Hobgoblin? Mysterio. Oh, Mysterio,
yeah, Mysterio. Hobgoblin was in the later one
of the 90s. They replaced Mysterio with Hobgoblin.
Hey, that kind of comes full circle about what
we were talking about last podcast with Stanley's
writing. Back in the 60s, it was really simplistic
and, you know, just over the top explaining every
little thing. We're going to have the whole set
of Olympic rings by the fifth podcast. A lot
of circles here, but I appreciate the old Stanley
stuff, but I really liked the newer stuff from
the 90s. I mean, that story was, I think, written
a lot better. I think it might have been written
by David Michelini or however you say it. Guess
as good as mine. He was a pretty good Spider
-Man writer there for a while. I like his stuff.
So yeah, that's pretty much what I've been up
to lately. Alright, and talking about circles,
that kind of gets into what we'll be talking
about when we come back from break. Yeah, and
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right and welcome back with it being the beginning
of 2014 some you know people are setting their
plans out what they're gonna be doing and part
of that is you know what would be watching listening
to reading all that good stuff so we're gonna
talk about stuff we're looking forward in 2014
and hopefully by the end of this year our expectations
will not be diminished. I'm not going to go personally,
I won't go in depth a lot of it with movies,
because I'll be posting my top 30 movie article
on Geocache radio, so make sure to check that
out. We are not important enough to hear this
information right now. And also what we're talking
about at an MR, but sure Chuck and Greg have
a lot of stuff they want to talk about. And surprisingly
enough, 2014 has a lot of TV I'm looking forward
to. Which is unlike me, so I guess I'm changing.
Times they are changing. And one big reason is
a lot of stuff I have watched is coming back.
And I don't know, have you guys ever watched
24 at all? No. No, I've actually never watched
it. Okay. I got into it, interesting enough,
wow, a few years ago, right before the last season.
And this is when Blockbuster was still open.
And we ended up what we ended up doing because
we didn't have, this is before really streaming
was all that popular edit is now. So we had this
deal with Blockbuster. It's like, you play $20
a month and you can rent as many things as you
want, as much as you want basically. Is this
why they went out of business? Partially, this
is partially. So we watched a lot of 24. We kind
of started at season one and walked our way through
and I'd have to go by and get a new disc every,
not every day, but I got known as like the 24
guy because of this. So it's just like, it was
kind of random. It's better than the guy that's
down the block from where we're at right now.
We got called a squirrel guy. What did he do
to squirrels or do I not want to know? i don't
think you want to know because i i i don't remember
and i don't think i want to know i think i expunged
it from my mind but uh but anyways the reason
i'm bringing 24 up is because it's actually coming
back in 2014 but it's not going to be 24 episodes
it's going to be i guess 12 or so keith or sutherland
is coming back as well so i'm curious how that's
going to work it seems like they're sticking
with the 24 hour format but adjusting it so much
is good because what you had a lot in 24 because
of the fact that like each episode was one hour
that took place in real time and you had 24 of
them was you had a lot of like filler episodes
a lot of filler plot lines of stuff that's like
you all this is just taking up time so this guy
can drive an hour away in this episode so um
hopefully they can get rid of that so it was
a gimmick that worked i think is it was interesting
but it by the last season it was just like okay
we get it like so just hopefully with 12 episodes
they can get around that and then some ones I'm
not gonna talk a great deal about but Game of
Thrones is coming back which I'm a big fan of
I love the first two seasons looking forward
for that coming back they need to put that on
Netflix so I can watch it yeah only thing is
HBO won't do that but uh there's HBO go and Greg
I can I can hook you up alright And I'll also
let you watch Game of Thrones. Also coming back
very shortly, it already came back in England.
What is Sherlock? Have you guys ever checked
out Sherlock? I love Sherlock. They came out
with Elementary. I'm not sure how much later
they came out with Elementary, but I refuse to
watch it since Sherlock has been so good. I don't
want to ruin Sherlock Holmes' mythos by watching
Elementary because I think BBC is doing it so
well. Have you checked it out, Chuck? No, I've
never seen that. Okay, well, for those that have
or haven't, what's interesting is similar to
24, all of it's in the format. There are only
three episodes per season. There's been two seasons
so far. Each episode, like I said, is three episodes,
but there are 90 minutes each. So it's, you know,
it's your classic miniseries. So each episode,
each season is three episodes. And with only
being three episodes, they have high production
value. It feels like a movie. I do like like
the Robert Downey Jr. movies, but this is so
much better. It takes place in modern day. Martin
Freeman plays. Watson's Cumberbatch is Sherlock.
Cumberbatch is fantastic, and that's Sherlock.
A lot of people know him from Con. Spoiler alert,
he played Con in Star Trek In the Darkness. No,
you ruined it. Yeah, but so looking forward to
seeing that comeback. Walking Dead coming back,
it's really, it's the second part. Okay, no spoilers
on that one, please. I need to watch that one.
Yeah. Cut up on four at least, like we're four
in that. I think I finished to the end of season
2, and I think they're up to season 3 on Netflix.
I just haven't gotten around to watching it.
So I usually watch stuff at work is when I have
the most time. And I don't think anybody really
wants to see that at work. Well, I mean, we need
to talk about it, so we can get caught up here.
Should I go into the other room? Greg, go into
your corner. You're going to get a great corner.
I guess without Shux or Choo talking about it.
You've seen, you've watched it. What are they
in season four now? For Walking Dead? Yeah. Yeah.
They're coming back. We're not talking specifics,
but I guess generally have you liked the first
half of the season? Yeah, I think so. I thought
it was pretty interesting what they're doing.
Kind of new threat for the season. I thought
it was interesting. I could definitely see it
happening if that was happening in real life,
you know, something that's believable. So I thought
it was cool. Yeah. And what I liked about the
season four. halfway point was like the season
finale we wanted in season three. So I was glad
that came. One thing I didn't notice like the
early seasons of Walking Dead, it seems like
kind of like there was people dying left and
right on some of the episodes. But it seems like
now there's a little bit more stability with
the characters. Like you're kind of on there
longer. Yeah. That's one thing I noticed. Yeah.
I think there's not as many cannon fodder characters
that just are there to die. Right. So I'm curious
what's going to go in season the rest of season
four because it left off in a really straight
not strange place but really uh the last episode
was pretty insane and everything that happened
so yeah definitely um also coming out house of
cards season two the netflix original series
i actually haven't finished the first season
so what i saw i like for those that are breaking
bad fans they're getting the breaking bad spin
-off better call us all with uh baba odinkirk
uh it's supposed to like be a prequel -ish i'm
assuming it's gonna be a lot different than breaking
bad and To me, the last season of everything
you've had is like some of the best television
that I've ever seen. Just happy to be back in
that world again. And Greg, I think Greg and
Chuck, you both were looking forward to this
and that's the Gotham TV series that's possibly
coming out. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's
it. Batman's pretty much the the top DC character
for me for the most part. It's pretty much the
only character that makes me read DC comics.
Yeah, I mean, even though Batman's not going
to be in the show, I still think it's going to
be really interesting. I don't know what you
guys think, but probably going to be a lot like
Fat Man year one, maybe like more of a Jim Gordon
story, kind of like how he came to be lieutenant
then commissioner maybe. I could see that. I
mean, a lot of people talked about some people
said, oh, it's going to be like Smallville. I
don't think it's going to be like Smallville
at all. No, no. I think it's. So the whole we're
going to miss the whole police department in
high school. Freak a week. So I'm curious to
see how it's gonna work. I could see it being
like year one. My question is he gonna be like
Batman? Is it gonna be just him as a kid? I'm
thinking they might touch on some things like
they might just have like a little boy and say
like his parents get shot just kind of touch
on stuff that way and bring Batman to the fold
that way not without mentioning him. I've heard
rumors going around that there's going to be
a show about Batman as a young child. I'm not
sure if those rumors are actually true or what's
actually going on with that, but I'm pretty sure
I've seen some rumor going around that there's
gonna be some kind of young Batman kind of smallville
type of thing going on. Is there any rumor on
who's gonna play Gordon? No, they haven't done
any type of casting or anything like that yet.
I doubt it. He did do pretty well as in the movie.
Oh, I love him in a lot of his movies, especially
Fifth Element. I'm not sure if you guys have
seen that, because that's kind of way far out
there science fiction. It's in pieces I've never
seen in a while, but I love it. It's got Bruce
Willis, which I think you would enjoy, Chuck.
And the girl that's in all the... You? Yeah,
the other... What's her name? I forget her actual
name in real life, but... She's in all the Resident
Evil movies. Yes. The poor woman's, uh, Angelina
Jolie. And a little bit on the difference, maybe
not as serious as Gotham, maybe no superheroes,
but Girl Meets World, and growing up, I don't
know about for you guys, but Boy Meets World
was a show I was really into. Yeah, a great show.
I loved it. I would never really got into, I
had to turn off the TV for some episodes, I felt
like they got... really awkward, but it's still
a very nostalgic show for me. It got a lot more
serious as it grew, for sure. I mean, it makes
sense because we were on the same age as the
characters. Remember when we were in sixth grade,
they were in sixth grade. When they were in seventh
grade, we were in seventh grade. So it came out
just at the sweet spot for us. I'm also hoping
this show can finally answer the question of
what happened to Mr. Turner, because he just
kind of disappeared from the TV show. He had
an accident and he just never came back. Well,
there was there was a sequel that Kind of said,
what happened? Mr. Feeney became a voice for
this black car. David Hasselhoff was driving.
It was weird. Yeah, that's where it's weird too.
That that came out, that sequel came out, you
know, 20 years before Boy Meets World, but I
guess technically in the future. Kind of like
Star Wars, whatever. Yeah. And my last one and
then I'll pass on. And this is one Greg, I know
you're into too. And because it's based upon
a book series written by Chuck Hogan and Guillermo
del Toro. Don't you hate saying his first name,
by the way? Yeah, that's why everyone says del
Toro. Plus, it makes it make some sound way more
epic just with del Toro. Yeah. Del Toro! Isn't
Toro supposed to be bull in Spanish, too? I think
so. I believe so. So that makes it even more
badass. Whatever Del means, whatever adjective
that is. It's a computer company, too, and I'm
getting a Del Toro bad joke. Anyway, the team
shows a strain. It's based upon a novel. I only
read the first one, but... I know there's tons
of vampire stuff out there. It's kind of based
upon vampire, but it's also like an outbreak
story too. It's, it reminded me a lot of, if
anyone's read Stephen King's The Stand, it's
in the sense that it's like end of the world
type of mystery. A lot of people end up dying
and it's not just of evil creatures, but it's
also kind of like a virus too. That seems to
be kind of a popular theme right now in the last
few years. Yeah. Like end of the world has been
really big. Last year we had like oblivion and
we have walkie dead going on we have Elysium
I think wasn't it that kind of one to Elysium
World War Z. What was the Tom Cruise one? Oblivion.
Oh, yeah. Wasn't there another Reacher or something?
Well, there was Jack Reacher. Yeah, but that
wasn't that was more like a Jason Bourne tech
movie Tom Cruise has a lot of he's also coming
out with like edge of tomorrow, which is similar
Which is like it and not really end of the world.
It's more future There's that After Earth one
too with Will Smith. Yeah, we forgot that like
most people. Stop trying to push your son on
us, Will Smith. I will not accept him. You're
fine and not your son. Put him in more movies
with Jackie Chan. Yeah, so a lot of TV that I'm
looking forward to, a lot of that's coming out
really shortly. So maybe we'll start with Chuck
this time. I know you had some other stuff you're
looking forward to as well, TV, movies and whatnot,
so. let you take it over. Yeah, thanks. I guess,
well, I know I share one of them with you and
that's Gotham. Really looking forward to that.
Not really disappointed that Batman's not going
to be in it. I'm still pretty interested on the
take on Commissioner Gordon or Lieutenant Gordon
or however he starts off. By the way, I looked
up, I don't think there's an actual young Batman
spin up. I think it's talk about a young Batman
being in Gotham. I just wanted to clear that
up from the floor. Yeah. Greg has become a researcher.
It's pretty awesome. Jack researcher. Also starring
Tom Cruise. As Greg. Minus the craziness. On
whose part. But yeah, it should be, it should
be pretty interesting. The other thing, well,
I mentioned on the last show, I'm a big Arrow
fan and I guess in the fall, I'm guessing it'll
be season three. They'll probably. Continue it
because they're getting some pretty good ratings
right now, but um that'll be good and everybody's
buzz about that show, too I think it's been getting
a lot more a lot more people talking about it,
too I've heard good things on other podcasts
that I've listened to kind of a tangent, but
have you guys watched the tomorrow people at
all? No, I think I've seen a commercial for it
maybe once but that was about it looked like
it was up my alley, but I can't remember when
tv shows are on so i think actually steven amil's
cousin is in that isn't he i have no idea who
is that's the guy that plays arrow oh okay i
think his cousin is in the tomorrow i think so
too yeah i think i've heard that it's pretty
it's pretty good i'm a little bit behind on it
too but it feels like it's based upon a comic
book but it's not to me the it looks so much
better than shield which uh like with the superpowers
and whatnot and i'm like why can't shield look
this good yeah anyways you were saying about
uh era Yeah, they just came back from break,
their little midseason break or whatever for
season two. They kind of touched on The Flash
a little bit. They kind of brought Barry Allen
into the fold. And for the fall of 2014, they're
planning a Flash spinoff show. He's going to
have his own show. I mean, I'm just going to
go around flashing people. Starting Greg. No
one wants to see that. But I mean, that should
be cool because They kind of did the same comic
origin in Arrow, like, they did the whole accident
with the lightning and the chemicals and, you
know, because, you know, you wouldn't just die,
you would obviously get super speed powers. But
I'm not positive that they're getting the same
actor for the Flash show. I think he might be
from Glee. I'm not mistaken. But yeah, he wasn't
a main character. I hate the fact that I know
this. I'll say this off the bat, my wife watches
that show. so in part i've nice excuse so he
he was like like a rival oh god i'm just um he
was on like another team that was uh like that
against the main glee people so he wasn't like
a main character but he was on it and oh god
i'm gonna go cry in shame now but all right go
ahead let me just put ugg in front of that make
it ugly But yeah, I think he's from that. I'm
not positive that they're bringing him back.
I think they might be. Flash is one of my favorite
characters. I mean, obviously I like Superman
and Batman a lot, but I think Flash kind of holds
his own in his own right there. Do you prefer
Barry Allen or do you prefer Wally West? Probably
Barry Allen. I'm not extremely well versed in
the Flash lore, but I think I prefer Barry Allen.
Have you seen the Justice League Flashpoint?
Yeah, Flashpoint Paradox. That was pretty good.
Very violent. That earned its PG -13 rating.
It could have legitimately been an R rating.
Yeah, definitely. Showing Thomas Wayne shooting
people and stuff like that. In the face. In the
face. It seems like DC does a lot of those like,
you know, parallel universe kind of stories.
They're really into that kind of thing. Yeah,
definitely looking forward to Flash and Arrow
Season 3. And then Walking Dead we talked about
before, I guess, in the season 5, probably. Yeah,
season 4, rest of season 4 and beginning of season
5. Yeah, that's pretty much the son of my list.
I guess we'll throw it over to Greg before we
get into the movies. But how about you, Greg?
Any TV shows? Really, no. But I did, I seriously
just pulled this up. Founded on Yahoo TV. ABC's...
Agent Carter books Haley Atwell and Resurrection
Duo as showrunners. Apparently they're gonna
make an Agent Carter TV show. I did hear that,
now that you mention it. And she played her in
Captain America, the first movie, right? Yes,
and there was also, I forget which DVD it came
with. I think it was Iron Man 3, she did one
of those minis. Yeah, the little minis, yeah.
So, and I thought that was actually pretty decent,
so I'd like to see where that goes to be quite
honest. I know I haven't really been happy with
Agents of Shields, but the fact that they actually
have an actress from the movie and seeing what
happened for this little mini movie. I'd be interested
to see if they would kind of go that path and
keep it like that because I'd be very interested
in watching that. Speaking of movies, I guess
we'll keep it on you. Are you looking forward
to any 2014 movies coming out? I looked up the
list of movies and it seems like I just kind
of stuck with superhero movies for the most part.
from Marvel. I'm not even sure if DC is really
coming out with anything this year. If they are,
it's probably getting pushed back, so. What do
you mean, Lyle? You mean like Batman and Superman,
when it's been pushed back. I think it was 10
months I've seen on the internet. They need to
visualize more, as in, we don't know what we're
doing, and we kind of rushed the gate a little
bit. Maybe we just like, oh yeah. we can't just
announce characters we need to actually have
a story along with it so you can't just throw
every character ever in there so you can't adlib
a movie it's a funny story okay just like oh
you mean you actually need a sorry anyway sorry
to cut you that thing that marvel did the 8000
planning for years can't just do it in the afternoon
But I guess I'll just name at least one of the
movies that I'm interested in because I'm assuming
you guys are going to be interested in these
as well. First one off the bat off the top of
my list here is Guardians of the Galaxy, which
you got a little sample of at the end of Thor.
If you stayed, I believe it was after the credits.
It was a really good after credit scene. I thought
Vinicio del Toro. Had a really, really interesting
take on the collector. We're gonna say it differently
every time. But we do love you, Del Toro. We
do. Thanks, Gulliver. Gary Del Toro. We're just
gonna make it simpler and simpler. Until it's
to the point we get it to... I found his choice
of... accent a little bit weird, but I'm really
looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward
to what's your name? Zoe Saldana as, uh, Gamora?
Gamora, yes, thank you, Chuck. Real quick before
you get too far off it, did you hear anything
about anything hidden in that scene? Like, I
know they were talking about maybe like Adam
Warlock's cocoon was kind of in the background
in that scene. No, I haven't heard anything about
that, but probably as soon as you start talking
about a movie, I will go look that up as my new
research role is taking place. That is your new
position. Sorry, but go ahead. I like all the
positions. But yeah, I thought that was well
done for the most part and it looks like a crazy
world that I'd like to see. It kind of looks
like it going into the realm of fifth element
kind of crazy, which I love. I'll just say that
one, because I think Chuck is going to actually
run into a couple of the ones that I'm also interested
in. And I talk way too much on this. Anything
else before we pass it over to Chuck? Well, I
have a book, but I think I'll wait till we get
done with the whole movie segment here. All right.
Words are too hard. Bringing it back over to
Chuck, how about you for movies? I actually have
a ton of movies that I'm looking forward to this
year. I'm not going to go into detail about a
lot of them, but I mean, most of them are Comic
book movies by default because that's like mostly
what's coming out really looking forward to Captain
America Winter Soldier I mean caps one of my
favorite characters begin with so those trailers
look amazing Yeah, and the Winter Soldier story
is like right when I got back in the comments.
It really sold I like Captain America, but I
never really saw him as like a in -depth character
but that storyline was holy crap is when he brutal
breaker being in his past and especially with
What you find out Bucky is and all that? So yeah,
super looking forward to it. So and I don't know
if you guys I think Greg you saw it But Dan,
I don't know if you did but like for Thor in
the 3d version of Thor dark world You got to
see an extended preview of the Captain America
movie. No, I didn't I didn't see Thor in 3d.
So I missed it I just don't remember. It's my
memory. Once again is awful. Well, what it was
was it was like the regular Captain America trailer,
but they throwed in They throw it in? Okay. They
threw in a little bit of extra footage about
the elevator scene with all the guys getting
on the elevator. They fleshed that out a little
bit more, yes. He sees the guys beat a sweat
rolling down his temple and another guy has his
hand on his sidearm so he kind of knows something's
up and they're planning something. That extended
clip was really cool. They really kind of showed
Caps fighting prowess. which I thought was a
little underrated in the first Cap movie. I mean,
it's understandable because he was kind of his
origin. He was just starting out, but that's
one thing that I hope they got into. Like, Cap
is a really skilled, you know, hand -to -hand
combat fighter, so let's see. Next, definitely
Guardians of the Galaxy like we talked about
before. X -Men Days of Future Past. Nice. That
I'm really looking forward to a lot. Love the
X -Men. I think we're all... huge x -men fans
here so we can't wait for that one yeah i mean
first class it was amazing i still love that
movie and like that franchise was like dead on
the water but that brought it back to life and
that i do having like fastbender mckellan steward
mackleboy all in the same movie jennifer lawrence
hello there you go that's and that's a huge cast
like just to bring all those guys together call
me jennifer i don't think she's listening i don't
know she will Will you freak out at all when
that news broke that like Ro got out of the movie?
Does that make you worry at all? A little bit,
but I mean, there's so many characters in it.
It didn't really worry me that much. Like, I
don't know. I think most of the most of the characters
might just be kind of cameos like in the future.
Like, you know, do you remember the X -Men cartoon
when they kind of they kind of covered the day's
future past story? Yeah. They kind of like just
did a pan of all the gravestones and like Cyclops
and you know storm and gene and all those people
but maybe it'll be something like that they'll
just kind of show some clips in the future i
don't know also probably be on the uh blu -ray
when that comes out so it's not it's not that
big of a concern i think it's a good thing honestly
because if they're realizing okay we're just
not gonna put this character in here because
people because they want another character yeah
it seems like they're trying to make a good movie
besides just trying to frame as many characters
as possible i think it made sense because they
kind of showed that rogue lost their powers after
the last stand yeah whereas like magneto they
kind of showed him he still had his powers a
little bit because he moved the chess piece why
do you think that would be chuck like uh just
that off the cuff kind of answer i just think
magneto is a much more powerful mutant so it
you know it just didn't have the same effect
on him i don't know he is quite a talent Plus,
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we'd be awesome right now. Anyways, go ahead.
I was never really too happy with the rogue from
the X -Men movies anyway. They got her absorbing
powers right, but of course... Maybe it's too
much of a story, but they never really got into
her strength or anything like that. So, I mean,
she's kind of expendable to me. Yeah, she's the
character is much better in the books. Also,
I don't think I don't think Anna Paquin fit look
wise for Rogue. I feel like she was kind of the
same feeling that I got from Tobey Maguire as
Spider -Man, who I really didn't care for in
that role. But. I felt but I like Anna Paquin
and other things don't get me wrong, but I just
I think somebody else would have been better,
but that's kind of Moot since she was in the
first ones and they're just trying to bring her
back. So what they have to do I think she worked
in the first one more because it was almost like
a cross between rogue and like a kiddie pride,
you know, that's that scene character that Wolverine
can bond with that. He always seems to bond with
teenagers. I don't know what's like Jubilee Jubilee
kitty as Wolverine's a pimp Yeah, I guess that
I think like you mentioned that the hardest part
is trying to retcon it saying how she got her
powers back I guess you'd say like the cure was
only It was not a permanent cure or something.
But yeah, I mean plus without without gambit
there I mean that kind of takes a little bit
interest away from her character because that's
a lot of depth like everything going on gambit
Yeah, and I love their relationship in the comics
and the cartoon. Yeah, and without that there
It's like it's just not the same. All right looking
forward to anything else Yeah, just some quick
stuff. There's a lot of Bible movies coming out
that I'm actually interested in. I won't talk
about them too much. There's actually like five
of them. Holy crap. There's going to be... There
might be some good ones. There probably is. There's
going to be Son of God, Noah, Exodus, and Heaven
is for Real, which is more of like a true story.
And then there's going to be Mary in December.
So I'm looking forward to all those. Looking
forward to Godzilla. That looks pretty cool.
Have you guys seen that trailer? Is that also
a Bible or a religious story? That is not, actually.
That is not. That trailer is just phenomenal.
The image of them flying into the city is just
with the parachuting in with the red banner behind
them and the clouds. that image has just sold
me immediately. Oh, I know. That's really cool.
Do you think that's going to be better than Del
Toro's Pacific Rim? I think it's totally going
to be a lot different because I think Pacific
Rim was just a lot of fun. It wasn't ever really
too serious. So they're going to be hard to compare
towards one another. But I would say I love Pacific
Rim and they're like, yeah, it's a really fun
movie. But I think Godzilla has the possibility
to be a step above that totally and more of a
I don't know, more of an epic movie, I guess.
Just with the cast that's involved and just the
scale of that, of Godzilla. It's gigantic. I
mean, if you look at people in Pacific Rim, it's
like four or five of those on top of each other.
So I think it's going to be like a change the
game type of movie potentially, which is kind
of unfair expectations to put on something. But
I don't know. The trailer sold me. So and the
cast is really good. Yeah, definitely. I think
Cranston's in that, too, isn't he? Yeah, Brian
Cranston. I think he's playing like a scientist
or something. Chuck sells math. Chuck, will it
be better than the Godzilla movie with Matthew
Broderick? Yes, thank you. I don't know. That
one's like, sounds pretty darn good, let me tell
you. I mean, the whole eggs hatching in Madison
Square Garden, that's tough to top. That one
was also done on Ear Wolf's How Did This Get
Made, which I highly recommend you go check out.
Yeah. So if we're lucky, it'll be that good.
If we're lucky. Oh, yeah. Let's see. What else
we got? 300 Rise of the Empire. That was pretty
interesting. Expendables 3. I enjoy those movies
just because it's like pure action. It's kind
of a guy movie. Definitely a guy movie. Well,
it could be for the ladies, too. The little man
muscle there. Well, man muscle is completely
not what it is. But they've got some beefcake
factor in there for the ladies to stare at. I'm
pretty sure... Jason Statham I think is very
popular with the ladies next time I'll deflate
all your balls With the female action heroes,
but so how many of them are in that they're like
I said Mila Djilovic or whatever from the We
got her I've got her name. I got her Zoe Saldana
would be a good one in there some of like the
old ones like Pam Grier she was like the 70s
like Yeah, I enjoy some of those movies Maybe
what's your name? Oh that crazy lady from this
that was married to Dolph Lundgren Pritchett
Nielsen. She's 40 feet tall. She played Godzilla.
She is the villain. And I think that actress
from Heroes, the one who had the kid, I can't
remember what their name, but she does a lot
of woman type. She was in one of the Resident
Evil movies too. So they can make a lot of fun
references. Yeah, and maybe like Gina Carano,
who was in Haywire, she was in the Fast and Furious,
Michelle Rodriguez, but yeah, anyways, that's
kind of another maybe another another podcast,
but uh, any other movies you're looking for?
Um, yeah, just a couple of them quick. I guess
the Michael Bay TMNT. Oh, yes. Ninja Turtles.
Oh, is that coming out this year? I believe so.
I don't think he's directing it to. I think he's
only producing. Oh, producing? Yeah. Well, at
least he switched it back to TMNT instead of...
Yeah, instead of alien turtles. That was horrible.
I hope he keeps the explosions down to a minimum
because I don't think that's the type of movie
where you have a billion explosions. Yeah. I
mean, the turtles aren't going to turn into cars,
are they? Hopefully not. No, but I'm sure there'll
be a lot of pictures of a lot of shots of Megan
Fox from behind. For no apparent reason. Maybe
she'll be April O 'Neill. She's April O 'Neill.
Oh, that's right. That's what I meant. Another
one was Draft Day. Oh, yeah. That's about Kevin
Costner plays the general manager of the Cleveland
Browns football team. How many movies is that
man in? And that's a documentary, right? That
explains the trade they made earlier this year.
When I was watching Wolf of Wall Street, they
had Trailers that went on forever and there was
at least 10 minutes of Kevin Costner on the screen
before Wolf of Wall Street He's in the Jack Ryan
movie and he's in like three days to kill what's
coming out Which I thought which is like him
trying to do his taken but not as good because
he's not Liam Eason I thought it was I thought
it was two trailers for the same movie They do
look very similar because they were it was kind
of back to back with the the other the jack reacher
I think if you say it was or like jack jack rye
jack. There's a lot of jack movies. Uh, you don't
know jack Whatever that was All right. Anyway,
I guess the from what I heard the owner of the
browns He used to be part owner of the stealers
and he kind of helped bring uh, the dark knight
rises To film in pittsburgh. Yeah, this guy's
like a big movie fan. So He brought him to Cleveland
to film this. So I'm guessing that they're not
going to paint the Browns in a bad light. Yeah.
And if they were to paint them, you know, what
color would it be? Orange. It's just weird because
like, I don't know how you make a draft movie
about the Cleveland Browns because like, who
have they drafted like in the last 20 years?
Sim Couch. Yeah. And where is he sitting right
now? On a sofa. Oh, wait. Oh, I get it. He's
the sofa king. And then another cool one. I don't
know if you guys heard about this, but Pompeii.
Oh, yeah, the role in Emmerich movie. Yeah, like
about the volcano, you know, the famous volcanic
eruption from Pompeii, Italy that just buried
an entire like city. Spoiler alert. Yeah, I just
ruined it. So I'm sorry. No one needs to pay
money for that now. Oh, and in Titanic, the boat
sinks. Wait, no. Actually, I wanted to go back
on a couple of them. For Son of God, it actually
is the same cast as that five -part History Channel
series, The Bible. Oh, really? Yeah, like it's
the same. His mother is actually the girl from
Touched by an Angel, like the same actress and
the same actors playing Jesus and some of the
disciples and everything. So they're kind of
like kind of branching off the success from the
History Channel show, which is pretty cool. And
Touched by an Angel. That was a great show. Great
show. Which one? Della Reese and everything.
But that's about it for me. All right. Greg,
I think you had a couple of books you wanted
to talk about, right? Yeah. There's one that
the comics are actually out for it. But there's
been a lot of talk about this comic series. I
thought it was great. I only read the first graphic
novel, so I can't really expand beyond that level.
But I really want to get Saga Volume 3. It kind
of brought back little bit of that nostalgia
that you kind of got from Star Wars and I thought
that was pretty good but I still have to get
number two but that series so far has been really
good and it's been getting a lot of praise from
different places. I've been really into the Percy
Jackson series of books not movies that I didn't
see the new the Percy Jackson that came out this
this last year. No one did so come on. I still
want to see it though because I very much like
the books even though they're for like teenage
kids and i'm like 28 at this point i still thoroughly
enjoy them so are harry potter so yeah and if
you read the books it's kind of in that same
same vein but they just kind of didn't follow
through with the the movies to be quite honest
they didn't get the best parts but uh heroes
of olympus mark of athena is apparently coming
out this april since i've read all of the other
ones and i've enjoy those thoroughly. I definitely
have to pick that up at some point. Very nice.
A lot to look forward to in 2014, for sure. Movie
book -wise, TV -wise, and like I mentioned, I'll
be posting an article with a lot of the stuff
on it, a lot of the movie stuff, including trailers
and whatnot. So if you're not sure if you want
to check some of this stuff out, I'd advise you
to go into Geocast Radio and you'll see that
in the posts. But before we let you go, we'd
like to end each Podcast with like a letter to
a specific person group positive or negative
last week Greg talked to Brian Michael Bendis
this week It's my turn and it's not a specific
person per se but earlier today I had the luxury
of taking my nieces and nephews to see Disney
on ice Yes, I know they greatly enjoyed it and
you think oh I'm gonna be talking bad about Disney
or talking about how they mark no not necessarily
more so to families or parents In general not
all parents. I understand it. I'm not a parent
myself, but I understand it's a tough job But
my issue is while at that event while I just
turn them on ice sometimes parents just Don't
understand us as Will Smith like to say Sorry
Greg I beat you to it But more so what I saw
a lot of is how people this is not just something
you blame on parents people in general I feel
like people tend to like want to record what
they're seeing and doing so they can talk about
it later and not actually enjoy the moment. While
I was at Disney and Ice, you're seeing a lot
of these families trying to take photos for Facebook.
Like, oh, I need this for Facebook. Get a photo
for Facebook while they're holding their kid
who's missing out because they can't see anything
because their parent is more focused on getting
something for Facebook or talking about it later.
You see that a lot. Like you go to any concert
people are more focused on. They're looking at
their screen, not even looking at the thing in
front of them. They're more focused on recording
it so they can share it later. And I think it's
good to share stuff, but sometimes it's just...
it's fun to just experience it as it happens
and photos are great videos are great but you
know there's something about doing something
while you're there and not just doing it to see
a video of it it just it just struck me as an
odd thing it's when with their parents who just
literally spent 90 % of the time just on their
phone recording it. And I'm like, well, do you
really get that experience at all? I don't know.
It just seems like you're missing out when you're
doing that. And I think we're so focused on like
telling other people about what we're doing and
not focused on actually doing what we're doing,
which is something they say when we do a podcast,
I guess. But I don't know. So, yeah, that's wasn't
a specific letter per se. I guess it's more so
not to sound cheesy, but it reminds me of we
saw Super Life Walter Mitty and there was this
Specific scene about someone had the opportunity
to take a shot of something but inside of not
taking the photo They just decided to just enjoy
the moment and I just something I think it's
always good to remind ourselves about enjoying
the moment So I know this podcast is running
a little bit long. So we'll end it here. So Anything
else you guys want to talk about before we bring
the show to a close? No, I think I think we covered
everything I was interested in. Yeah. So hopefully
this live to record podcast went well and we'll
hopefully be doing this again sometime very shortly.
So for now, I have been Dan. I have been Greg
or Harry Potter. Either what you would like.
And I have been Chuck. And we have been talking
in circles and we'll see you next week.
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