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Yes, after a week off, we are back and we are

back in full force. We have a lot of fun stuff

to talk about today, a fully jammed episode coming

at you. But before we get to all the fun, how's

the week been going for you guys? The week was

pretty good. How'd you enjoy your 4th of July

holiday? It was good, wasn't too exciting, I

guess. Just had a little kind of a little barbecue

at my uncle's place and that was about it. It

was very rainy here in PA. So oh jeez Yeah, it's

been a damper on things. This has been the summer

of rain. It's been like crazy thunderstorms Yeah,

we had a tornado watch today. I think we're like

I get three a week I think if we get four in

a row we get like a free car or something. I

don't know Yeah It was actually it sunk like

last week. My power went out for a long time

It's the fact that like I actually I was supposed

to podcast at night you couldn't podcast and

if it wasn't for the fact that I went home for

the for the Vacation it was still out for a while.

It was just sweet so much flooding going on.

It was insane Yeah, I feel like there's the water

going on in the u .s It just either you have

way too much and you're flooding or you have

none like there's no in between Too bad we couldn't

hear. Tom Selleck stealing water from a fire

hydrant. Is that a reference? I don't understand.

Yeah, he actually did that. Nice. Nice. Do you

think he was fine for it? I don't know. My mom

told me this morning when I woke up, it was kind

of weird. She's like, Greg, wake up. You got

to point news to share about Tom Selleck. She's

like, do you know Tom Selleck? I'm like, I know

of him. Don't actually know the man and she's

like, well, he's stealing water California has

a flood. I'm like, hey Keeping you updated on

Tom. So yeah, but uh, Greg Greg, how are things

going with you? All right. I also didn't have

crazy fourth of July. I just ate a lot of food

But I did get to meet one individual who i'm

sorry is a better friend than both of you combined

his name is connor i'm sorry he's a good guy

he's a good guy he is a good guy yeah since we've

actually recorded we were actually met in real

life because i went home for the for the fourth

of july holiday so you got to meet my my son

which was a lot of fun uh in the classic meeting

place with dunkin donuts Yes. He is a coffee

addict. I don't know why you keep feeding him

coffee, Dan. I think protective service has something

to say about that, but... It's what he asked

for, you know. I guess we'll let it go. I think

it's the creamer, so it balances out. Instead

of creamer, we use the formula, so it's okay.

That's my model. Oh, okay. So that helps out

with the coffee jimmy's. Yeah, exactly. Though

it's weird having a baby that doesn't blink.

Staring contest go His favorite thing it right

now is looking like he's really into looking

He gave me an awesome look when I was holding

him he was like Who do you hang out with you

know Greg? That's awesome knew but I know besides

the 4th of July, you did have a rather life -changing

experience. I don't know if you want to talk

about it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely life

-changing. It was actually before 4th of July,

and we just haven't had a time to really talk

about it since I got it. But I finally got my

tattoo. Quite painful. It is nerdy. It is X -Men

logo. It hurt a lot, actually. I have it underneath

my arm, and I didn't realize that is also one

of the sensitive areas, along with on top of

bone. It also hurts to get it underneath your

arm. Yeah a couple points it felt instead of

like getting a Sunburn applied I liked Sunburn

applied it turned into hot exacto knife digging

into my skin Which I was not expecting and it

was also fun when a random person came in and

Asked me if I wanted to be tickled by them What

what kind of tattoo parlor did you go to apparently

really weird one? I don't know I just was like,

I like this guy's work. He has nice straight

lines and his line work is very good. So I'll

go with him. And yeah, I get crazy people coming

in while I'm getting tattooed. So, you know.

Hey, you know, a tattoo and free tickles. You

can't really ask more. So yeah. So Greg has totally

upped his geek cred. Now is, you know, donning

the X -Men tattoo. That's impressive. Yeah. And

I also get along with bikers now. Not really.

You have skull I have a I have an x -men tattoo

So I went but I don't think a layman may even

realize what it is Yeah, because the way I have

it tattooed because it's not like an actual just

x -men Logo like X MEN. It's a circle and then

I have like it's kind of like a directional pad

type of situation going on so it kind of has

the the skin being the logo and the actual ink

is kind of uh the negative space uh that you

would see from it I guess is the best way to

explain it yeah it's like uh it's it can double

bill as a gamer tattoo and a x -men tattoo so

yeah kind of yeah I guess maybe I could throw

a photo up on Facebook and people can check it

out and and compare geeky tattoos I I have I

will probably never join the club, personally.

Being wimpy and combination of just not feeling

like I would be able to think of something that

I would want permanently at my body, because

I would just freak out and pick something really

stupid and then regret it immediately. Well,

I kind of picked out something stupid, but I

like it, so... Yeah. I mean, I'd be like, I want...

I was going to say My Little Pony tattoo, but

I know people that have gotten those. Really?

Oh, yeah. Like in real life, you know people

that got those not just like oh I saw this guy

on the internet who got a My little pony tattoo.

It's not someone I met in real life, but I've

met them vicariously and yeah, so, okay I mean

everyone's got their thing, you know, I'm sure

like, you know, people will sport tattoos something

like that That's why I would I would go with

like the I probably go with like a Giants tattoo

because I figure like that's something I would

I would stay with but then you know Then you

would also have to associate yourself with some

really stupid people. Speaking of the Giants,

have you guys heard about the story involving

Jason Pierre Paul? I have. Yeah, I heard you

got a tattoo of a firework going off on his hand

Yeah, you got a tattoo of a missing finger on

his hand Yeah for those that know don't know

Jason Peter Paul is a defensive end for the New

York Giants actually, you know arguably one of

their better defensive players though some Myself

feel like you maybe last few years. He's been

plagued by injury So he's not been nearly as

the player that people helped him to be but over

that was July weekend. I guess he Decided to

be really stupid and had a firework Firework

incident all it doesn't indicate indicate what

he did. It just said there was a incident with

the firework that left his hands injured to the

point where he's getting his index finger removed,

which Is kind of important for a football player

I would assume But yeah, yeah any in the Giants

like it's interesting because he's actually in

a contract here right now try and suffer through

their offer from him and Which he wasn't gonna

sign anyways, but like there's this huge thing

to do I was reading where the Giants actually

sent players sent like medical staff down to

visit him and he refused to let him in My guess

is probably cuz like it's worse than he wants

to let on so People debating like is he gonna

meet the miss the season? Like what's it gonna

be like so I'm like, how dumb are you? That you

would do something like that and literally cost

yourselves millions upon millions of dollars

because You wanted to see what happens when you

hold an M80 in your hand or something I have

I don't know what he did unless he was like fighting

off firework aliens or saving a child from like

a blast of fireworks like there's no excuse for

being that done when you're an adult No, if you

just wanted to not get millions of dollars, why

couldn't you just give it to us? I I should have

wrote him a letter. I don't know what I was thinking

I mean, it's definitely a boned move. But actually

what intrigues me more about this story was the

fact that um reporter Adam Schefter of ESPN felt

the need to tweet a photo of Jason Pierre Paul's

confidential medical paperwork. Yeah. Wow. And

I know like ESPN said they didn't break any HIPAA

laws or anything by doing so. But in fact, the

person that broke the law was the health care

worker that released it to them. They'll probably

end up losing their job. But still worth it.

Still it doesn't take much common sense on ESPN's

part or Adam Schefter's part to say hey, wait

a second This is some confidential type stuff,

you know, maybe he wouldn't appreciate it if

I just showed it to the entire internet I mean,

come on Schefter like use your brain, you know,

I didn't even know that happened. That is kind

of ridiculous Yeah, I just heard about that today

It's crazy like so many of these reporters are

just like little twerps, you know, like That's

it feels like the perfect word to me Like they

don't care whose privacy they violate as long

as they're the first to get the story out, you

know, yeah, yeah Here's this it is. It's like

a tabloid journalism and it's just the excuse

that we're the first one to report that story

It's like maybe just wait. It's it's all right,

you know Mean I usually like Adam Schefter. I

do think at times are kind of crazy with the

like getting the access information about disguised

like injury It isn't saying just the resources

that they go through to find out the most mundane

information ever. I know I personally I've never

really liked the guy. He's just like too over

-the -top for me was like like you said the smallest

stuff and it's like, you know, he's texting during

the middle of the Interviews that he's in and

stuff. He's like just re -achieve word that Tim

Tebow wiped his butt like I Need to know that

information though for my fantasy team this year

I need to know if Tim Tebow is wiping his butt

and how well Front or front to back. What does

it do? I need this information from fantasy football

Chuck and I mean, how does he lay the toilet

paper? Is it? You know over or under I mean that's

that's huge like that is that's gonna that's

a telltale sign of how he's gonna Tell us exactly

how hit the spin of the ball goes for them Yeah,

it is it has become like the espn Their news

has just become ridiculous. It's just tabloid

and it's it's becoming more like entertainment

news Which is it's all like relationship stuff

and like it's going in tmz basically Definitely

definitely adding to my increasing dislike of

espn It is becoming unwatchable. The only thing

I can watch on ESPN is like the 30 for 30 docs

and like Mike and Mike in the morning. Oh, yeah,

those are really good. Yeah, it's like that's

what they got. Everything else is like and I

think mostly because the 30 for 30 docs are done

by people outside of ESPN. So people that actually

have common sense and personality. Yeah. Yeah,

they do have like a few good Jeremy Schaap is

one. I feel like he usually he does pretty good

work most of the time. But we are really ungeekifying

our episode as we're talking. So we can maybe

switch it up a little bit. And there is some

geeky stuff to talk about. And for a second segment,

we're going to play one of our favorite games,

Sequel Reboot and Destroy. And largely inspired

by some of the recent movies that are coming

out. There's like a ton of reboots that are currently

working. And we got a trailer for, I guess it's

not, is it a reboot? Is it a sequel? We need

a word that's like both a reboot and a sequel.

I don't know. Seaboot, maybe? Was it a racehorse?

What was that check? Wasn't that a racehorse?

It was. Seaboot. It was the sequel to Seabiscuit.

The trailer for Creed, the Rocky -related film,

I guess you would say. Sorry, Michael B. Jordan,

directed by the guy who brought us to Field Station.

Chuck, I got to ask you, because I know you're

a huge Rocky fan. What did you think of this

trailer? Are you looking forward to it, or are

you thinking are you going to pass? Honestly,

it looks really good to me, and I'm really looking

forward to seeing it. Of course, I'm a huge Rocky

fan, like you said. I can be honest here, I can

be unbiased enough to admit there really doesn't

seem to be anything new here. I mean, it kind

of looks like a combination of Rocky V when he

gets to train somebody and Rocky Balboa, which

kind of had that more modern feel to it. But

that being said, I think it's one of those deals

where you like if you like the Rocky movies,

you're going to like this. If you're iffy on

them, you kind of get sick of them. then it's

probably not going to bring enough new style

to make you like it, to be honest. Yeah, I think

that's definitely a good point. It may not seem

like something that's nearly breaking the bake

of virginality or so, but Greg, what did you

use? Did you get a chance to see the trailer?

Yes, sorry, I didn't. Just didn't, sorry. That's

okay, because I didn't see the other trailer

we're going to talk about in just a second. I

think the one thing that might... Make it a little

bit different that the one angle I think that

they could approach that might be a little bit

interesting I guess it would be similar to rocky

five though Hopefully a lot better is the relationship

with like Michael B Jordan character Creed's

son and rocky I think that could lead to a lot

of interesting dynamic for sure. Oh, this is

a Rocky film? I thought it was about Creed Branton

from The Office. No, that would be amazing. I

would watch that immediately. That's funny, I

was just watching the office today. That's like

literally as we walked in. I just finished the

entire thing again. I was watching an episode

and I forgot how amazing it was, but it's Scott's

Tots. Oh, yeah, that one get that one makes me

feel anxious because I just feel so bad for that

episode. Yeah, it is. I forgot. I forgot about

that episode and I was just like, wow, this is

anyways. If you've not seen the office, it's

a good one to watch, but. But yeah, I'm looking

forward to it. I really like True Fill Station.

I like Michael B. Jordan a lot. So I agree with

you, Chuck, that maybe it's not gonna, it's probably

gonna follow the same formula, but I like that

formula. It's worked really well for, I would

say five out of the six movies. And if this one

can do well, I'd be looking forward to it. What

I really liked about the trailer too is how it

didn't indicate that it was related to Rocky

until like halfway through. It's established

itself and then it... let it slide a little bit

by little bit until you see Sylvester Stallone

walk out. One thing I thought was interesting

was I was talking to some people at work about

it and my boss was saying that he thought it

kind of looked dumb and his reasoning was simply

because Stallone's old give it up already. I

personally don't think that's a valid reason

but unfortunately that's the opinion that a lot

of people are going to have. I mean, if they

don't pay attention to the trailer, like, or

if they're blind, they're going to be like, oh,

Rocky is fighting again. This is stupid. You

know, like, but I mean, you hate to say it, but

that's a lot of people are going to say that,

you know. Why would they make a movie with him

fighting again? Like, you know, grudge match

like that. That's a movie that happened two years

ago that no one talks about. I think he'd be

good in that role, their mentor and stuff. I

know, like we said, we saw him do it before,

but. I think it makes a little bit more sense

now. He's a little bit older. A lot a bit older,

I guess you would say. His face is bigger. His

veins are popping out more. Am I one of the things

that looks like his head's gonna explode? It's

because he took a bullet to the head in that

one movie. It's like he's becoming his own real

-life bobblehead. He's a pop vinyl. I'm actually

curious about a couple of things though. I'm

kind of curious if they have rocky Sun again

Because that's oh, yeah, that's always been a

weird relationship throughout the rocky movies

like yeah It's kind of like they're on good terms

then they're not and they are then they're not

in rocky balboa they kind of started off like

they're not on good terms the son didn't want

anything to do with them and then by the end

he's like in his corner cheering him on and everything

and you know he's a believer in everything but

i'm kind of interested if they actually have

rocky son in it too and where they go with that

but be interesting i mean that i mean the actor

is not doing a lot he was he's like i think he

is in the he was a hero so i think he's in the

reboot of it but uh i do like that guy for the

most part so that would be kind of cool seeing

if he returns to it uh But it's kind of cool

to they're using the same restaurant that was

in Rocky Balboa Yeah, that's in this so they

are trying to you know, have a little ties together.

I like it stuff I'm also curious to see if they

um, if they touch on anything with the russian

Yeah, since we're like, you know where he's at

and everything since he was the one that killed

Apollo in rocky 4 but based on what Apollo's

son is saying in the trailer he's like i don't

know him he he ain't got nothing to do with me

like it doesn't really sound like he cares who

killed his father but i'm kind of curious if

they do anything with the russian or if he has

any sort of resentment to him for killing his

father in the ring or what yeah that would be

interesting if they would bring that up i mean

that also could just be the angle of him like

rejecting his father then coming to accept him

and all that good stuff yeah It's funny because

of the rocky theme I've actually when Connor

right my son does what's called tummy time It's

like they try to like it's been the process of

learning the crawl and stuff like that. I hum

the the rocky theme I call him baby push -ups

as he's trying to you know train for his his

big momentum of crawling so He got him signed

up to climb Everest next week Exactly. I mean

it got it got a wear out that that coffee somehow.

So is he gonna be? Lifting random objects in

a barn. I'm gonna have them chase squirrels around

just I Don't know bottom line. I love anything

rocky. So I'm most likely gonna enjoy this Yeah,

I'm definitely gonna check it out myself. So

But the one trailer that I didn't like to see

that I know Greg and Chuck you both saw and it's

again something I guess not necessarily a reboot

because it's but it's related to something that

it's a huge part of our childhood that we've

talked about on this podcast a few times and

that's Goosebumps and that trailer was just recently

released so Greg I'll start with you and what

did you think I know you talked about this movie

a little while ago I was curious if you uh if

you're looking forward to seeing it or if the

trailer turned you off I just found it odd that

they they did like a very very very very quick

mention of that Jack Black is playing R .L. Stine.

They didn't like really set him up. So it kind

of was an odd trailer for me at first. If I didn't

know the background information already that

he is R .L. Stine, like I would have been completely

lost and like, what the hell is this? And it

would have just been like a weird, goofy horror

movie to me. But since I knew that It kind of

flowed a little bit better for me and everything

and it looks I wish it was a little bit more

scary, but Goosebumps was for kids and it kind

of had this Goofy horror sense to it. But um,

this just seems kind of a little bit more goofy

than Scary for the most part, but I like scary

movie type of scare like kind of goofy Comedy

years it no more more kiddish definitely more

little kid like Pratt fall Jerry Lewis kind of

Physical humor kind of stuff like old -school

screwball comedy like three suges step. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah that kind of stuff But with CGI monsters

Chuck, how did you feel about it? It's interesting.

I thought the exact same thing because I really

was kind of hoping that it was more on the horror

side, like more scary. Cause like, I know the

books were meant for kids in a very young reading

level back in the day, but when you're at that

reading level, these books are kind of terrifying

when you're reading them. When you're like eight

years old, they are very scary to you. So I was

kind of hoping that they would parallel that

correlation to like us growing up and it would

be a scary movie, but. I was kind of surprised

that they went this sort of quirky and fun route,

but I kind of knew that when they said Jack Black

was going to be in it. He kind of brings that

with him. Do you think that's also kind of how

our culture is in some ways where movies or things

for kids, they can't approach being scary or

something like that. You know, it has to be very

safe. Is that just more of a product of the environment

or do you think it's because of Jack Black being

in that role? Well, I think it's part of Jack

Black, but I think it's. Also like a target audience.

I think they're Targeting the younger crowd again,

maybe to try to stir their interest in it and

stuff like if they were targeting like late teens

and 20 -somethings they would make it more like

a I don't want to say insidious but like some

of those more really terror movies that like

and scare the crap out of you, but Do you think

they can? Maybe approach it on the level of something

like are you afraid of the dark or goosebumps

the TV show? Like are we unable to make things

like that anymore? Do you think I'm not sure

I Really didn't see too much of the goosebumps

TV show and they saw like one or two episodes

and That to me looked more scary than this movie

is gonna be Yeah, I guess I mean I could point

to something like Harry Potter which I guess

is more on the darker side So maybe just what

they were going for for this movie. So Two just

assumed it would be kind of like a horror kid

film or something like that, but not approaching

that just makes me think that maybe they're afraid

that they wouldn't be able to make a horror film

for kids because it wouldn't work or they wouldn't,

you know, they would get yelled at by parent

groups or something like that. Yeah. Though you

could be like that one movie theater that instead

of playing Inside Out, they played Insidious

3. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. That was very nice of

them. It's work. Well last year they it was I

forget what kid movie it was a theater to also

instead of playing like a Might have been how

to train your dragon or something like that.

They played nymphomaniac too Nice is like basically

has hardcore point in it for kids with like immediately

but so equally Yeah, you also have to wonder

it's like when you start seeing the trailers

for all these horror films Don't you kind of

get the idea that maybe you're in the wrong movies?

Like this stuff did not happen by accident, I'm

sorry these are purposeful things that were done

I'm going to slice the penis into the scene right

here There it is. What are you at like a 90s

Disney animator? No fight club Total Fight Club

reference. How many Goosebumps do you guys read

as a kid? Like all of them or like half of them?

I think I had all the Goosebumps stuff. I had

one of the Pick Your Adventure type Goosebumps

book. And then I had a couple of Fear Street

books. And then also I had another R .L. Stein

book that wasn't Goosebumps related, wasn't scary.

It was called Space Cadets. Interesting. Yeah.

I don't know. I think maybe... Remember Say Cheese

and Die? Oh, yeah. I had one of them, Choose

Your Adventure one too. I don't know how many

I owned, but I think I read a lot because I felt

like every time we had to pick a book from...

the library or something if that was available

i would get one so it has to be 20 plus or so

i would think if not around that yeah that's

that's around where i was i don't actually know

how and how many they ended up making like the

last i knew i thought they were up to like 60

but they gotta be they could have did more than

that i have no idea There were pretty quick reads

even for a kid, you know, they weren't really

yeah. Oh, yeah I remember picking them up like

remember that scholastic thing that would come

to the school and oh the best day ever. Yes You

could buy a book for like three dollars or something

or as I know it as I really came to know it buying

sports posters cuz that's And those a lot of

novelty pencils and stuff Exactly. Exactly. Yeah,

I'd take one of those home and like read it like

three hours or something Yeah, oh man, that was

like the best day ever, this Scholastic Book

Day. Remember, they were always a good thing.

Do you remember the one, there was a teacher

that we had that was like trying to tell everybody

that Goosebumps books were bad for your mind

and stuff and... Oh yeah. I can't remember who

it was, but she would always tell everyone like,

like, oh those books are bad for you, you shouldn't

read them and blah blah. Worst human being ever.

Yeah, I was like, yeah things that promote imagination

or Yeah, yeah, it's always something right there's

always some book series that kids like the people

are told not to read It's like, you know what

kids are reading as long as it's not porn She

probably wanted us to read like friggin hamlet

and like your crap. No Sorry, I do not like Shakespeare

Bill's a good guy Duff mother know you wear with

her drapes Yeah, I can never get into Shakespeare

either. I'm not gonna lie. I can pretend and

say I did, but I was always like, really? All

right, I get it. It's more scary than Goosebumps.

It is. The language used because you can never

understand sentences. Yeah. Speaking of Shakespeare,

Spider -Man. Good segue. No, just another...

Quick news story I wanted to touch upon. I just

I thought this was kind of interesting because

I just saw a lot of debate going on over this

and as we're in the mood of secret reboot and

destroy, why not talk about the Spider -Man reboot

number three that's coming out and we got who

is going to be Spider -Man a while ago, but a

few days before we're recording this, he also

announced who hot Aunt May is going to be, and

it's going to be Mercer Tomei. I love how you

put that in there. Who hot Aunt May is going

to be. Mean people don't realize that's that's

her name in this movie. So maybe that's why there's

so much controversy But yes, Marissa Tomei who

a lot of people know from the wrestler my cousin

Vinny She is playing like that title role and

there has been a lot of hubbub about it because

you know She's not necessarily who you picture

as Aunt May. She doesn't have white hair. She's

gorgeous But what do you guys think about her

being cast? Do you think it's it's a bad thing?

You think it's a just them too afraid to hire

an older person or is it? people making a big

deal out of nothing. I think they should really

hire Helen Mirren so we can actually have somebody

that looks age appropriate, but is still hot

because I don't know. I feel like next they're

going to go to a supermodel. Like, oh, here's

Emily Radziakowski. You could be Aunt May. And

Peter's just going to go through puberty this

entire movie trying to spy on you in the shower.

And it's just going to turn into a game of Thrones

is going to turn into porkies. And so we're going

to have a spider ham. And some and yet a base

motel field, too Yeah incest spider -man the

one we've always wanted so incest is best It

really isn't Thank you random person at the bookstore

for giving me that quote from out the rest of

my life Chuck what did you think of Mercer Tomei

being cast as Aunt May? I saw it and I was like

Wait, seriously Whatever at this point, I don't

know. I just I don't really see it to be honest

It doesn't really get me excited. It kind of

gets me a little disappointed if anything But

I mean, we'll see our Peter Parker kind of looks

like he's 12 now so I guess it makes sense to

have a younger looking aunt maybe I don't know

but Yeah, I do realize. Did you guys realize

she she's actually 50 years old? Yeah, she's

50 years old, which is I hope I'm nearly as that

attractive at 50 years old. I know I'm not going

to be. I don't look that good now and I'm 30.

So, Dan, you're going to look better than that

when you're 50. This is funny. I wanted to actually

read some tweets that people wrote about her.

Some of these are actually pretty funny. This

guy at superhero feed says Aunt May is Never

thought I'd say this but Aunt May is kind of

Someone say it for me. Damn it And then the other

guy Jonathan Corman he says I am not okay with

being sexually aroused by Peter Parker's Aunt

May Well, you know who said that didn't happen

in the first movie just yeah, and then there's

a this other guy says Don't worry. It'll only

be for a film or two before they reboot it again

It's pretty much where I'm at cuz I would not

doubt that See like my theory is that this is

just getting us one step closer to that. It may

adventure We all want so yes where she marries

dr. Octopus and Yeah, yeah, she's a crime fighter

and I don't know I I mean it is weird. It's just

the initial idea of it Mr. Tomei as Aunt May

just doesn't necessarily make sense. You look

at Aunt May and you think older I mean even Sally

Field was felt a little young for the role But

I guess in the sense if you think that he is

younger. He's in high school. So maybe if you

Ten years when he's like in prime of being spider

-man. She'd be 60 years old So maybe that would

make a little bit more sense. So I'm not completely

against it. I think ultimately personally when

it comes to casting I get more upset when they

cast someone who's not very talented. And I think

Bruce Tomei is a really great actress. It does

seem like it's part of Hollywood being afraid

of casting someone in a woman world that's not

drop -dead gorgeous, which makes me sad. But

it also just, it just seems like they're just

going younger in every way now with this and

Fantastic Four. It's just, I don't know. I just,

I think their goal is to make us all feel old.

Guys, this just in. I just got an update on Twitter

feed. Uncle Ben will be played by Zac Efron.

See my theory was they just they cast Alan Arkin

as uncle Ben just to screw with people It's like

to go the opposite end of it or like someone

super old Alan Alda I love Alan Alda Ed Reznor,

whatever his name is Ed Asner, yeah, that's what

I was going. Ed Reznor, that's not a person.

You might be. I don't know, he's out there somewhere.

That's Trunk Reznor's grandfather. He'd be great.

You'd be fantastic as Aunt May. Well, see, I

had always, I don't know, just from the comics

and everything, to me, it always seemed like

Aunt May was actually his great aunt. Yeah, that's

what I kind of took to. I felt like she was...

His mom's answers or dad's yeah, like kind of

somebody that would be like, you know his grandparents

sister or something, you know, but yeah, it wasn't

because it never felt like aunt may was his Mom's

sister like never felt like yeah So, I don't

know That is kind of weird. Maybe his mom is

like 22 and had him when she was like Good 12.

They were an episode of mori Jerry springer You

said you're not spider -man the white detective

proves that is a lie Do you guys think that we

won't see her until 2017 or do you think she'll

make an appearance in the Civil War movie? That's

a good question Hmm. The fact that they cast

her now makes me think that she'll at least have

an appearance in Civil War even if it's a brief

one Do you think she'll be in Civil War? I kind

of don't. I mean, your reasoning definitely makes

sense. Like, why would they announce that casting

this soon, like two years ahead of time? But

I don't know. It just makes sense to me to wait

and show her in the actual Spider -Man movie.

But maybe, who knows, maybe they'll show her

in Civil War a little bit. Maybe the after credit

scene or something like that. True. I mean they

are already filming civil war so that could also

I could be wrong I don't know how much time I

have left of filming that movie, but if they

just cast her now maybe she wouldn't be ready

by the time they're rats, but If she is I would

assume it's just a brief brief counter. Maybe

he goes home and she's like in the background

or something like that Stripping what I'm gonna

go see this movie now. Well, just see the wrestler.

Okay She'll be explaining the exact tire tread

on a 1972 Pontiac or whatever she did in my cousin

Vinnie. She's gonna just combine all of her roles

into one for Ant -Man. That's why she got the

part. Alright, well I think enough Spiderman

talk. What we're gonna do right now is take a

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welcome back and we are playing one of our favorite

games today if you've never heard it before it's

pretty simple what we're gonna do is we're gonna

throw out some sort of property movie TV show

what -have -you and we're gonna decide should

we make a sequel to that property like we talked

about today with Creed being the sequel to Rocky

or reboot like Creed Being a reboot to rocky

or destroy the idea all together and just say

just leave it alone in the franchise should and

make it about the office creates brand Exactly

on the run from the lobby I think Cree Brandon

might be the only person that's older than Stalone

is uncle Ben Time to go with great power comes

with great responsibility like come on man Since

we are getting that rocky sequel, I guess you

would say, or at least spinoff, whatever you

want to call it, I figured what's another great

90s property or 80s property from Stallone? that

maybe could get the same type of treatment. And

that, of course, is Rambo. You know, should Rambo...

Do you think we can get a sequel to Rambo? We

had one like, I think, 10 years ago. And could

we get another one? I mean... How hard is it

to carry an oxygen mask and tank through the

jungle? Is it hard? I don't know. Can you put

like... It would be extreme fire hazard with

all the explosions he has in this movie Maybe

he could have multiple ones and he could put

them on that bow and arrow that he uses You can

have a little chassis He's just stuck on like

one little twig He shoots like exploding arrows

out of the wheels or something But still he can

tie a headband like no one else So should I'm

guessing maybe not a sequel to? Rambo then you

guys are I don't think so. I think you could

go with somebody else I think Jason Statham would

be awesome. I but he'd be awesome in anything.

So Would he fit in the rainbow row I think yeah

Yeah, he said he fits in all the super models.

So if it's in an Audi really well, so the car,

I mean, Chuck, what do you think? I do enjoy

some Rambo, but I think I think that story has

been told. I think it's just after four stories

all this time. Yeah. I mean, I know in the first

one, he says nothing is over. It's just it doesn't

feel like it has that Factor to it that can keep

continuing like kind of rocky does and there's

no real way easy way to pass it down to anyone

else It's not like they ever showed him having

a son or anything that I know of So, I don't

know Maybe they could like continue it in like

animated form because the Rambo 80s Cartoon series

which was so amazing. Maybe you could hunt down

all the Care Bears and Smurfs That I would I

would see But then you find out the Care Bears

are actually ruthless killers and they're impossible

to stop He traps them all in a field and sets

it on fire Well, I mean you got to give some

stone credit, you know Rambo single -handedly

Well allowed us to win vietnam again like vietnam,

too And then rocky won the cold war so maybe

maybe if we have another rambo movie He could

end all these other wars, so exactly It could

it could actually be for the good of mankind

So maybe we should we should allow he does have

a strange like political power about him Although

it's a swartz neighbor He just wants to be president

Yeah, I will say Stallone got a little bit of

help from Top Gun and stopping the Cold War That's

true. That's true. Maybe if him and Tom Cruise

combined into one movie our powers combined Maverick

and Rambo in the same movie like come on and

they bring goose back to life and he's zombie

goose. Oh Spoiler alert, sorry. And everyone

playing volleyball in jeans. No, I got something

better than Zombie Goose. I think he reincarnates

as an actual goose in this movie. You know what?

I would love to see that volleyball scene redone

with Val Kilmer today. Which one's the volleyball?

Know there's a white white ballish looking thing

over there. I don't know I can't really talk.

I don't look much better at this point. So I

don't either but it would be he would look better

than me Did you say you had some um, I did have

a couple These are completely random ones Let's

see This was I guess another sort of 90s franchise

that was Popular in a different media was video

games before game movie, but um, how about the

Mortal Kombat movies? I don't know if you could

do sequel. I think it's maybe it's gone too long

And you think sequel I think of Mortal Kombat

Annihilation, which is legitimately one of the

worst things ever in the history of the world

So unless they for like forgot that movie ever

existed because you know, they killed Johnny

Cage like how can you do that? But I think I

could see possibly a reboot. I know they have

that online TV like that online series It's like

more of the realistic version. That's actually

really good I've not I've not seen it. I think

it's a Mortal Kombat legacy. I want to say I've

yet to I saw like the first like preview that

was leaked or came out and then I never saw it

but So maybe they couldn't make a movie around

that that Alan but I think no Mortal Kombat has

been around for it's still making mutant games

so there there I think Michael J. White was actually

in that uh that YouTube series and The fight

scenes are really good. Actually, like it wasn't

cheaply done at all So there there might be possibility

there for something so I would say I would say

a reboot of anything I want to make a sequel,

but that's my decision Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't

necessarily destroy it I think there's Definitely

good storylines to write since they used one

of the bad ones first off And I wouldn't do a

sequel to the the terrible first one, so I would

definitely reboot it and make it proper this

time around. It'd be kind of cool because they've

been like incorporating other characters from

other licensed properties like they had Freddy

Krueger and the Predator is in the most recent

one. If they could somehow get those and that'd

be like this ultimate like monster mashup of

like Scorpion and the Predator. They're doing

the monster mash. Yeah. Predator fits perfect

in that. I would have to go reboot on it as well.

Like I said, they've proved that you can have

a lot of success with the legacy show that they

did on the YouTube series. I think they had like

two seasons of it even or something. And the

few episodes that I watched of it was really,

really good. But I'm sure there's a lot of good

actors out there willing to do it. A lot of action

stars and stuff. So I just want to say one thing

about when I used to play the video game as a

kid, my favorite moment ever. Was when I was

sub -zero and I was fighting Johnny Cage and

he did the split thing and I froze him like that

at the exact moment the Was there anyone that

you would hate more than Johnny Cage I always

hated that character like in a good way like

he just seems really I don't know him in his

$500 sunglasses or whatever they were Yeah To

keep the theme going of the 80s action star movie,

I'm thinking, you know, recently Arnold Schwarzenegger

tried to come out with a Terminator film, Terminator

Genisys. It didn't - wasn't very successful critically

or financially, did not do very well. I have

not seen - Even though Amelia Clarke is gorgeous.

Yeah. Only reason I would go see that is just

to stare at Amelia Clarke. I have heard from

a second -hand source that that movie is very

good. Oh, really? I have not - Very, very good.

I've heard - For most of what I've heard it wasn't,

but again, I can't speak. Well, this is from

a hardcore Terminator fan, so I'm hoping that

says something. Okay, well, there you go. Terminator

didn't work out. Unfortunately, what others?

Like, you don't really have any franchises, I

would say. You know, I don't think we'd go with

Jingle all the way to, or Hercules in New York

to, or maybe Commando again. I don't really like

Commando. Conan? That might be sacrilegious.

Conan though. They are they are making a Conan

sequel so I didn't that uh that is happening

and they've already rebooted it which wasn't

very good in my opinion, but one movie I thought

you know what I could I could possibly see a

sequel or maybe even take this idea and reboot

it with someone else and It's one that he did

it with one is probably the director that got

the most out of him and that was true lies seeing

possibly a sequel to True Lies, a reboot with

the kind of a similar idea with new actors or

maybe not do that and destroy the idea altogether.

What do you guys think? I don't know. I think

you have to get Jamie Lee Curtis out of those

biotic yogurt commercials first to make that

happen. That'd be really hard to do. Yeah, that's

a hard contract to snap. But one good thing about

that would be Eliza Dushku. I think she would

be great in that. I do not think Tom Arnold would

be able to come back. But I don't know how you

would really make a sequel of that. And I don't

think they'd make it as good. As the other one

with new people in it, I don't know. I think

he would just destroy that one. I actually like

that one a lot I do like true. That was a good

time. What do you think Joe? Just to double -check.

I'm pretty sure that's the one with the With

the harrier right where the yeah blades rotate

and the things like hovering yeah, that's where

in like his his wife is Jiminy Curtis like He

mentioned and greg fighting in the limo on the

bridge and everything. Yeah Exactly. Exactly.

That's and his daughter was flopping around on

top of the jet while he was trying to see beautifully

flopping very I should not say that I know she

was like 12 greg like calm down. I know like

at the time Yeah at the time like you were on

the same age, so it's okay, but now it's a little

weird Chuck again what so do you knowing that

now what the movie is would you give it a secret

or reboot or destroy the idea? I can see given

that a reboot I think you know maybe they could

not quite go so over -the -top on the action

I know that was kind of Arnold style back then

but I think it could be interesting I would possibly

go sequel. Maybe you could get electric you screw

to come back and maybe she's the one with the

true lies Maybe she's a secret agent all she

teams up with her dad nice Nice, see what I did

there. It's actually really good damn. I like

that though do you get them you get like that

hard five, which is kind of the same thing, but

I would be maybe an interesting dynamic with

them now. And I would love that if I would say

only do a sequel if James Cameron comes back

because that guy can do sequels. He can he knows

how to use Arnold really well. And I think Arnold

Schwarzenegger needs someone like James Cameron

to kind of bring his career back to what it was

because right now his movies have not been not

been what they once were when he was at his height.

He's have Arnold Schwarzenegger, a giant boat,

and then they go to a strange planet. But that

I'm sure explaining speed to again for some reason

They did that speed to yeah Chuck do you have

any more I do? Okay, here's another we're really

sticking with this time period. Aren't we in

the 80s here? This is it. Well, he's true life

was 90. So at least we got out of yeah, so yeah

80s 90 So I think one of the mortar beds was

in the 90s, right? Yeah So here's another 80s

90s type of time period I think we've talked

about this movie equal times in past episodes

for different reasons, but uh the two The two

movies starring snake plus getting escaped from

New York and escaped from LA I thought of that

one last night when I was thinking about coming

up with stuff for this Do you think Kurt Russell

could reprise the role? Do you think they could

reboot it? I think that would be, I'm going first

Dan, sorry. Go, do it Greg, go. Out of the way.

I would love to see an older, like he was very

grizzled back then. Imagine him like how many

years now into the future. I would just think

that would be amazing and it'd be like escape

from Canada or something, someplace larger, an

entire country instead. Escape from Canada, they're

all really nice to him. Just to smuggle bacon

out of there or something. He's like, I've got

the protein, go! It'd be like a cross between

you know escape from New York and Canadian bacon.

Yeah I Would like to see an older snake fliskin

because he was very grizzled back then so Like

I think you could either do you could do? sequel

or Reboot you could you could definitely see

some other people in there like once again, you

could definitely have Jason Statham in that And

I would watch it So welcome to Jason season podcast

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achievement Interesting secret we better show

it's funny because you bring this up because

they're talking about making a reboot to Big

trouble little China, which is another Kurt Russell

movie done by get his name. Why am I John Carpenter

as well? So I would say if you're gonna do it

do a sequel and considering how escape from Los

Angeles escape from LA escape from LA ended I'd

be curious to see what that world is like now

like So that'd be yeah, it's a very interesting

world Yeah, so if you're gonna do that, I would

definitely say Make a sequel because I don't

think anyone else could play snake plus skin.

That's not Kurt Russell person. I gotta agree

there I think, I mean, Kurt Russell is one of

my favorite actors. I really like all of his

stuff and I really don't see any role for my

taste anyway, but I would definitely love to

see a sequel to that. I mean, you bring up a

good point about seeing what 25 years later or

30 years later, whatever. Very cool. Very cool.

So I was trying to I'm looking at one that I

have listed in like the 90s and I don't have

one. I just I didn't realize that till now. They're

all in the same time period, but. Hey, I don't

want to be like sony and reboot a movie that's

been only out for like five years. Yeah, well

We've been talking about movies. So i'm gonna

throw out a tv series and it's one again that

was in the 90s and We actually I brought it up

when we did our ultimate tv network. It's one

of the favorite ones I had as a kid and dinosaurs

are really big right now. Jurassic world is making

like a trillion dollars and Maybe dinosaurs will

be back is a big thing So can they in we're seeing

a lot of 1990s TV shows come back full houses

getting a sequel Boy meets world has girl meets

world. What about dinosaurs? Do you see possibly

getting a sequel to that? Ice age, I guess would

be I don't know would be how you would sequel

eyes it but or a reboot of that series or Continuing

it. I don't know. What do you guys think? I actually

rewatched dinosaurs recently and it was not as

good as I remember it being I don't know why

but it just favorite part is The baby dinosaur

with not the mamas and that stuff. I don't know.

I just think I heard that at this point I think

you could kind of I don't think you could sequel

it because of that but maybe Reboot I don't know

It was it was a weird weird niche kind of Show

and I think it was with that time period. I don't

know. I I would destroy it. I think The muppets

are getting a sequel. It's or not a sequel getting

a new series. Yeah tv. Yeah Yeah, did you ever

see the last episode of dinosaurs? Because it's

like, oh, yeah. Uh, yeah, I did see that it is

very depressing Holy, yeah. Well, that's one

way to end the show with completely uttered doom

and gloom. But yeah, Chuck, what do you think?

Let me guess, they ended with the asteroid hitting

the Earth? No, it's like the Ice Age starting

basically and the temperature is like falling.

And it's like a news reporter basically announcing

that the world is basically coming to an end.

And then a giant mammoth crosses the screen and

he's like, Deborah, what are you doing, Deborah?

For a second, I'm like, I don't remember a mammoth.

You think you're waiting for a joke to happen

and it doesn't happen and you're like, oh it's

it's really just gonna end that sad, huh? All

right. Well, yeah So what do you think I I think

I'm gonna have to go with destroy I think just

let it be I I did enjoy it for a little bit as

a kid, but I really don't think I would enjoy

it now and It's it always was like weird to me.

It was like this weird combination of like the

Flintstones and like Roseanne Somehow with dinosaurs,

I guess. Yeah, I don't know. But it's I just

don't think it would hold up like maybe maybe

if there was a new, you know, creative spin on

it, maybe. But I don't know. Just it's not it's

not hitting me right right now. Yeah. And my

worry would be like they would make the dinosaur

CGI. Yeah. It wouldn't be they wouldn't do puppets

because I can imagine like that they were. Difficult

and the puppetry still holds up pretty well.

Everyone I hear that goes back and tries to watch

it It's like yeah, it's not it's not that good.

So, I don't know Maybe it was a kid and they

were dinosaur so I really doesn't hold up because

they have they have it on Netflix I believe and

I watched like an episode or two and I was like

I can't really watch this It's better how it

was in my memories than it is in my watching

It's always better. So with that with that in

mind, I'd go to story as well. So three destroys

for that one. I Have one actually. Oh, yeah Kind

of going with your TV thing, but this one was

also a movie I just was watching this while eating

dinner tonight and I find it amazing that my

Parents actually like this one. But what do you

guys think of Buffy? I have that listed down

too. That's funny I'm not an avid Buffy watcher.

So I've seen a few my wife watches a lot She's

actually watching out like re -watching it now.

So I've got a few episodes I would think if you

do it you have to do like a sequel like I don't

I don't know if you get reboot it with new characters

or anything like that since they're that's such

a cult following And it's not like Sarah Michelle

Geller is doing anything else. So she is still

probably gorgeous though Sarah Michelle Geller

Oh, yeah, nothing against her. I mean, I liked

her and she had that show with Robin Williams

a little while ago. I thought was pretty good.

For whatever reason, she's not currently in a

major TV show or anything like that. So she had

one from the CW a couple of years ago, but it

never worked out. So I would say maybe do a sequel,

but like do a movie, not a series, you know,

maybe like a special or catch up something like

that. Maybe like do what Serenity did for Firefly

or I know it like Buffy ended right, but maybe.

you have like a huge spectacular with like Angel

or whatever. So I'd go with sequel, but with

a movie. Okay. Chuck? To be honest, I really

haven't seen much Buffy at all. I don't have

a whole lot of interest in it, but I think I

kind of agree with Dan. Like those actors are

pretty... ingrained in those roles, like in the

fans eyes, like every time you go to like Comic

Cons and everything, like people flock to those

people. And I know when we went to New York Comic

Con a few years back, I actually went to meet

James Marsters, who is from Smallville, but he's

also on Buffy. He still gets a lot of fans because

of that and everything. And then you have the

guy from Bones. What's his name? Forget his name.

Oh, uh injury and gory. How do you say it's something

be? Boring out us or yeah, it's all an ace I

mean, let's go bone a mayonnaise But I mean they're

all they all look really good still I think they

can do They could do well in a sequel to that.

I think they would probably all have interest

in doing it So I'm gonna also bring back Eliza

Dushku again Yeah, well some of the Jason Statham

Elijah do some podcast Jason Statham making appearance

in it So, what would you go with Greg? I actually

I'm not gonna really say much and just go with

what you guys said because I think you both made

really good points All right Chuck you anymore.

Um, yeah, I could do one more I'll stay away

from some of the bigger franchises because I'm

not sure if we've done them or not, but I think

we may have But I'll do one that I know we haven't

done before. And this recently has become one

of my favorite movies for some odd reason. And

that is the Tron series. Oh, really, really?

Tron and Tron Legacy. Yeah, I've really gotten

into those movies. I don't know why. When did

that happen? Like two weeks ago. Really? It's

a long lasting love for that franchise. I actually

saw Tron Legacy a while ago, probably like a

year or two ago, but I was able to actually find

the original Tron. The entire thing was on YouTube.

So I watched that and while I appreciated the

originality and where it came from, I definitely

like Tron Legacy better. But I was curious to

hear you guys thoughts. Would you go sequel,

reboot or destroy on Tron? No, let me think.

I'm not the biggest Ron fan to be honest with

you So and I know they were they plan on making

a sequel to Tron legacy, but it fell through

my my idea was since like that didn't work and

I know like I see I mean Wasn't at least as financially

successful as they were hoping for that maybe

I would I would think that maybe there's not

much more there I know they had a cartoon series

that was going pretty strong, but that that that

kind of fell through as well, so Uh, I don't

know. I'd probably go destroy thinking since

it's currently they're having trouble making

it as as we speak So it just seems for whatever

reason. Yeah, that's kind of why I wanted to

bring it up because I know they they cancelled

out on doing the third one, but Yeah What do

you think? Um, yeah, I I like you like you. I'm

not the the biggest uh tron fan Um fools all

of you. Yeah, thank you. Um Are there any tron

fans out there? Yeah, Tron guy. Oh, you got to

hang out with Chuck is Tron guy He's like one

of the first YouTube stars built like a Tron

suit and everything. He's yeah He's a very large

man that should not be in a suit like that. I

must find this man. I find the aesthetic of that

world to be beautiful, but I don't know it just

The the storyline is a bit I don't know. It bit

much. I think what killed it was like, yeah,

it was like the Matrix, right? Because it kind

of took what Tron did and the idea. Yeah, made

it in a year, I think. I won't say stole the

idea, but I think it took a lot of its luster

away. So maybe that's why Legacy wasn't as popular

as people hoped it would be. See, I'm able to

separate them. Like, to me, I'm not a Matrix

fan at all. That movie just is a total turn off

for me. But well, like everybody else, I think

that the first one was really, really good. And

then they just crapped the bed on the last two.

Yeah. What would you say for Tron? I would definitely

say sequel. I really, really, really liked Tron

Legacy a lot. I like the whole concept of it.

Like, I like that going into the game and, you

know, these other. like constructs basically,

they're basically like programs, like they're

not real people, they're programs, but they find

a way to give them like character and give them

personality and everything. And it was just something

that really intrigued me. And I kind of related

it to Wreck -It Ralph, believe it or not. Yeah,

that's a good idea. Because, you know, you're

kind of taking these two -dimensional characters

or things even, they're not even characters,

and you're giving them life, you're giving them

like purpose and... you know direction and everything

and i think it's really interesting how they

did that but basically like the light cycle is

the coolest freaking thing ever to me like i

just i just want a light cycle to drive around

and i could cut people off on the interstate

and just de -res them i gotta admit that is a

good sequence i do like that sequence in in legacy

what what do you think about because i feel like

even watching legacy there was kind of a cool

world they built like there is Interesting like

aspects to it and you know, they've built there

like a little bit of a lore there And I'm sure

there's been Tron comics. I know there's a TV

cartoon What do you think about maybe doing like

a Tron TV series? Would you be up for that? I

would but I think the graphics are a big thing

for me Like especially with the light cycles

and everything like everything else would be

fairly easy to do You know the fight scenes aren't

that spectacular? As far as needing special effects,

but I mean but look at stuff like the flash I

mean they do a great job with their effects I

think so and a different thing it would be possible.

I would be up for that. Definitely I guess it

doesn't have to have this like it wouldn't have

to have Jeff Bridges or I don't know the other

guy's name the younger guy Charlie Hanum, is

that what was that? I forget. Was that him? He

has to have Olivia Wilde though. No it wasn't

Charlie Hanum. Yeah Olivia Wilde was in it too.

Olivia Newton wild Yeah, I guess I guess it wouldn't

necessarily have to have those characters I would

like to see them back, but I would still watch

it if it wasn't them Yeah, I think it'd be good

if they just if they bring Jeff Bridges back

it would only be old Jeff Bridges. I think that's

the one that they kind of turned me off was just

the the younger looking Jeff Bridges just it

didn't look kind of weird and just didn't work

completely. It did but I know like I understand

why they like he's just a like a copy like a

program or whatever. Yeah. As long as they made

a reference to Flynn you know I would probably

be happy. All righty, so that's it for this week

for sequel reboot in this story But before we

go we do have a letter and again We are blessed

by having a fan write in a letter and of course

we had a couple other emails for questions We

didn't get to them today, but you know what we

may do like our mailbox episode coming up So

if you have questions or anything you know anything

you want to ask could be about Whatever have

you but this game whatever you know any topics

you feel like we don't cover you wanted to talk

about Go ahead and send us an email to Talking

in circles at live .com or feedback at ecastradio

.com, but today I have to definitely We all have

to send out a huge. Thank you to Reggie Williams

who sent a letter and it's like yes. Thank you

Reggie and it's actually pretty timely because

it is regarding San Diego Comic -Con and I will

I will go ahead and read it for you. So here

it goes If you have any affinity for comic books

that runs more than two inches deep, Comic Con

International San Diego is set up to support

you. Why? The old saying absolutely applies here.

It's not about the comics anymore. Comics fandom

is largely an affinity based pastime. You go

to Comic Con largely because you dig comics.

You feel part of something. You feel like you

have some skin in the game. Now let's pretend

you're going to GreedoCon. As a Breedocon aficionado,

Breedocon should focus on burritos, dig? Tacos

are fine as well, and hell, if you have to do

it, you can even accept other food products such

as pizza. But suddenly, when there is a panel

on Ford Mustang, you rebel. Things are out of

place. This shouldn't be. The carpet -bagger

effect just hit, and the safety of your burrito

is at stake. These are the base opportunities

with their Mustangs, exploiting you and your

burrito buddies, tempting you with something

shiny. The Carp Riders just don't get it. They

don't understand what burritos are about, and

they'll never love them like you do. And look,

everyone's gravitating to whatever's shiny. Your

burrito has just been reduced. San Diego gives

itself a wonderful aesthetic clause. Just look

at the banners hanging from the street lights

all around town, and they'll tell you that Comic

-Con is celebrating the popular arts, but the

name has become disconnected from its origin

and from the reality of what it represents today.

Is it a Comic -Con? North America's biggest pop

culture expo seems more appropriate and accurate

description. In this, San Diego sits at a paradox.

They have more comics than anyone, yet comics

are somehow subdued and pushed to the side. With

Marvel seeing that they're sitting at a Comic

-Con, we may see San Diego Comic -Con return

to its original roots. Some look at this as a

good thing. Now San Diego won't become glorified

Hollywood hype machine. Why, I get this mindset.

Personally, I enjoy being a part of the hype

machine. Sitting in Hall H as a long -awaited

and unexpected trailer hits, causing the crowd

to act like we're at this World Series, the World

Cup, and the Super Bowl combined. Soon I can

see people talking fondly about the days when

Comic -Con mattered and just wasn't a bunch of

people looking through an assortment of long

boxes. And that is it. So it seems like from

what I'm reading here that Reggie was indicating

why he understands people have issues with Comic

-Con being more about pop culture than Comics,

but it seems like he is in favor it being that

way because it makes it matter. And so I think

that's an interesting Angle to take with it.

I don't know what you I know Greg you as someone

who's been to San Diego comic -con I know you

really haven't gone to the panels all that much

but I don't know what you think of things like

what's Marvel sitting out of comic -con you feel

like it's going to Change comic -con for the

better or the worst last year that I did go which

was actually last year There were a lot of big

movies that were coming out that didn't involve

themselves in the con and I really didn't feel

the there was so much other stuff going on that

I really didn't make a huge hit. To me, if you're

just watching it from the outside, something

like Marvel movies not being there is kind of

a big deal. But if you're actually going to the

thing, your focus is so spread out to... to try

and get everything done that you want to do.

There's already so much stuff that you going

on that I don't think you even notice something

like just one thing like Marvel. Now if it starts

to kind of like a cascade effect where like next

year there's not like Marvel DC and like. Like

a whole bunch other different movie stuff coming

out then I think you see it going back to kind

of an older feel of Comic -con where it's just

about the comics for the most part and maybe

TV but I think that Makes it even better and

makes people feel like they can get more done

at it. I guess I would say As someone who's never

been there, I really can't speak to it but Think

that I think what we're seeing is a lot of Hollywood

is seeing that there's not much kickback to Spending

a lot of money at comic -con like there's been

a lot of movies that have been huge you know

everything from like Scott Pilgrim vs. The world

which spent all this money there and then nothing

really came of it and I think people thought

they saw like 300 when that came out He thought

oh, it's because they went to comic -con and

it's never really come to that point again So

I could see it kind of returning back to the

roots like Reggie was saying and maybe not as

much of the hype machine. I think it's always

going to be that somewhat though. I think it's

I think it's never going to be able to escape

that totally because people are going to look

at it as free marketing opportunity. But I don't

know. Do you have any thoughts on the subject

at all, Chuck? Yeah, I mean, I personally I think

like I tend to like the smaller cons that are

more catered towards the creators like the Baltimore

Comic Con, which I know we all love. But I think

the big ones like San Diego and New York, I think

the industry needs those though, because to be

honest with how big they've gotten just say in

the last like five to seven years, I really think

that they're that's helped to drive a lot of

things that have happened in the comic industry.

I mean, I don't have official statistics or anything,

but I would think, you know, comics are becoming

more popular. Probably a lot more graphic novels

are being sold. As you know, these movies come

out, people like to look them up in the comics

and read about them. I think it's like a gateway.

It's bringing more people in. I think it's it's

it's sort of like the, you know, the rising tide

raises all ships. So, like, I think it's really

helping the comic industry. Now, you could get

into the argument of quality of the stories,

but that's another whole different thing. But

I think as a whole, it's definitely helping it.

And you can kind of pick and choose which type

of con you would rather go to. I know they're

all getting bigger. And actually, New York last

year had more attendees than San Diego. So technically,

according to last year's numbers, New York could

lay claim that they're the world's largest comic

con. Yeah, I mean, I think that's definitely

a good point, too. I mean, you think about it,

Marvel was declaring bankruptcy not too long

ago, and it's with these movies, and it's allowed

them to be what they are now. I don't know if

more comics have been sold or not. I definitely

think they're certainly more popular in the lexicon

of everything. and that could be possibly why

you're seeing more things like a new 52 or mobile

we're doing what it's doing because it's trying

to capture those fans who are now interested

in the product there the issue i think a lot

of people have like as i think he was alluding

to in his email was when you have those things

that are outside of the realm of geekdom and

just try to make it about them or try to kind

of uh Use that popularity for their own gain,

even though they don't really felt fall in that

rain all that much I don't know how prevalent

that is I know like like WWE has stuff at comic

-con and maybe people would think that's not

really geeky But I think in some ways it is so

and they're like racing bad That's necessarily

geeky and that had like a thing at comic -con

So there are certainly a rideway range of things

that that go there, but I don't think that's

a bad thing. I think I think most geek geeks

are into a variety of things. So I think that

just it's just more of a testament of showing

that there's no such thing geeks are not Shouldn't

be pigeonholed into like you have to speak. I

think those those uh, you know other genres sort

of leaking into comic cons. I think they've sort

of spawned other like new comics like You know

new companies and new comics like getting into

that medium And they've sort of inspired people

to create new characters. And I think like everything

coming together, I think really is affecting

everything and bringing everything up. Because

we've seen a lot of I mean, to be honest, we've

seen a lot of new comic book concepts in the

last like 10 years or whatever. Like like, you

know, everyone thought of comics as superhero

comics, like for decades. And now there's like,

there's so much more that's come out just recently.

I mean, image comes out with like three new cities

every week. That's very true. And all of them

are usually really good. So, yeah, who's to blame

them? All right. I mean, I definitely think there's

more we can even touch upon with the topic even

on a later episode. But I'd be curious to hear

what people think of San Diego Comic Con this

year. I know I haven't really heard a lot of

news, big news so far. I'm very sad that I can't

be there to get all the pop final like Very sad

about that you bought enough. They should like

send you with like three copies to like a beta

tester Please tell them that Chuck This should

make Greg Greg Brepler exclusive pop they have

Conan O 'Brien ones for the comic -con Alrighty,

so let's bring this episode to a close. And if

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but for now. This has been Chuck. This has been

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this has been Dan, and we've been talking in

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Yeah, I can't even do it. Ah! I remember those

commercials. Not that it's over, just give me

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that. I wish they would do that. We should have

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Or just claymation. You should secret it, but

destroying it would be so much fun. That was

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today's celebrities Celebrity Deathmatch episode

To be continued