Talking in Circles

Luke Cage Series Review

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About this Episode

Chuck, Greg, and Craig dive deep into Netflix's Luke Cage with full spoilers. They discuss the show's strong performances, especially Mike Colter as Luke Cage and Rosario Dawson returning as the Night Nurse, the compelling villains in Cottonmouth, Shades, and Diamondback, and how the series uses Harlem's culture and contemporary themes to enrich its narrative. They also touch on the show's biblical undertones, sparse action sequences, and what might come next for the character, including the possibility of Heroes for Hire and the upcoming Defenders series. Before diving into Luke Cage, they share stories from their New York Comic Con trip, including meeting Stan Lee, and discuss trailers for Rogue One and Power Rangers.

Touch! Touch! You got the touch! Stan Bush here,

and you're listening to the GeekCast Radio Network.

You are now on the inside of what I like to call

the circle of trust. We are all connected in

a great circle of life. You know something, Bert?

What? I think you and I are going in circles.

It feels like we're going in circles. The circuit

is now complete. When I left you, I was about

to learn you. Now I am the master. Because it's

a circle. Yeah, we heard about the circle. Yeah,

we're familiar with shapes. Hi, this is Chuck.

This is Craig. And this is... And we are talking

about the Canada Radio Network, the podcast that

is going to get you sucka. Today, we will be

discussing Netflix's most recent Marvel TV show,

Loop Cage. Yes, we finally marathoned it, got

through it. Last week we gave her some initial

thoughts. We're gonna dive deep into spoilers

and all that great stuff in our second segment.

But before we get to that, how's the week been

going for you guys? It's been an eventful one,

I know that much. Mm -hmm. Indeed. A week for

me was very good. I went on a couple adventures.

Obviously, we hinted last week, Greg and I were

going to New York Comic Con, so we'll be able

to talk a little bit about that later on. And

also, the next day, when I got home, I went up

to... There's this ski resort by us, this really

tall mountain, and it's one of the highest in

Pennsylvania. And they actually had this like

fall festival thing so you could like see the

leaves changing and they were operating the chair

lift so you could go to the top of the mountain.

And I got to go up there and check that out.

And that was really, really cool because I'd

never been up there before. And you could just

you could see for like. Just miles and miles.

It's unbelievable. It seems like you'd see for

like 20 miles and it almost like It almost like

looked fake like you like your eyes couldn't

like grasp what you're seeing kind of it was

a really really crazy experience because like

you know, you had like there's like some cloud

cover and Then you know, you're just looking

way off into the horizon and it just looked like

this painting or something It just I don't know.

It didn't look real But that was a really cool

experience and everything. So you had a pretty

good time to do it, too. So yeah, it was, you

know, the leaves were good and everything. But

it was like cold up there, like freezing cold,

probably 20 degrees colder than it was at the

base of the mountain. So but yeah, cool, cool

weekend. Nice, nice. Greg, how things going with

you? It's it's been a bit of an up and down week

for me. had an awesome time with Chuck and everybody

that we went with to the New York City Comic

Con and everything, so that was really good.

But then we kind of lost kind of the unsung mascot

of the show, especially when we had live episodes.

If anybody's ever listened to them, my dog, Raisin,

you could hear occasionally in the background.

And unfortunately, she has passed away, so. Rest

in peace, Raisin. Love you a whole bunch. Losing

Daleks sucks. That's never a fun thing to do.

My week has also been kind of eventful. I didn't

get the chance to go to New York Comic Con, but...

This I did have Unfortunate run in with an animal

literally as I hit a deer driving this week Yeah,

please please not in your car because I feel

like you could have got really messed up if it

was in your car Oh, it was my car. Yeah. Oh cuz

your deer is like ten times the size of your

car It is luckily wasn't it was It wasn't like

a fawn but it wasn't full -size and it hit my

like it was weird. So I was driving I dropped

my son off at daycare and It's like kind of driving

and they're kind of back roads a little bit and

you know, like I'm just driving going around

this corner it's a two -lane road and freaking

like I legitimately I don't even see it honestly

because they're kind of a sharp turns and it

hits my like left fender area and like bounces

right off and It didn't have like have a really

like big impact. It almost sounded like It hit

a bird in a way, but it was it was much bigger

than that obviously so I uh So I luckily I was

you know my son was biting the carpet myself

so Parked and then a very nice woman who I saw

it saw it happen helped me bring the deer to

the side of the road but felt really bad because

like in the there was this big field that I could

see and there was all these other deer kind of

looking at me and I'm like I Clearly killed their

family member. I am now a villain in the Disney

movie. So that's awesome Sometimes they I don't

know how Dead it was but sometimes they actually

like pop back up and kind of keep running after

Yeah, after a while. No, it's still dead because

I drove by the same place this morning and it

was still there So unless it's really playing

dead for like really good at it and dedicated

but But it was a, it was a, it was a smaller

deer, but it did, you know, like Greg alluded

to, my car is very small, so it did some damage.

It's still drivable. Had to go get it fixed tomorrow.

It was just more of a, a very expensive inconvenience,

but you know, stupid deer. What are you gonna

do? I kind of felt bad because I killed it, and

like, I didn't expect to kill a deer today, but

you know, it happened, so. But, um. You guys

did allude to, you know, you guys went to New

York Comic Con, so I was curious how that all

worked out for you, how did you guys enjoy your

trip there? I don't know about Greg, I had a

pretty good time. I think one of the complaints

I had last time was, this was five years ago,

I think we went in 2011 was the last time we

went to New York, was the crowds, and it was

just so hard to get around, and that was kind

of still true. But I think expecting it this

year, I was able to deal with it a little bit

better. And a lot of cool stuff there. One thing

I was kind of surprised at is I feel like it's

becoming less and less about comics and graphic

novels and more and more about merchandise, apparel,

and celebrities. There were so many toys there.

There were so many Clothing shops and like weird

little accessories and just like a lot of useless

crap to be honest So like I kind of you know,

I walked around and I was able to easily see

everything I wanted to see In less than a day

as opposed to like, you know some of the other

ones like Baltimore and stuff We go to like it

takes me a couple days to like look through everything

because they have like huge selections of yeah

Comics and things like that trades and stuff.

So that's one thing I noticed and I think Greg

will agree with me that the cosplayers are great

But it's just really annoying when they stop

in the middle of the aisle for everyone to take

pictures Yeah, they're they're a little out of

hand and they need to control their community

a little bit I don't mind pictures but like kind

of stay off to the side a little bit. I don't

know It's really tough to get around there like

especially around midday like noon one o 'clock

I mean, yeah, it's just so jam -packed at that

time and like just kind of forget about you know,

seeing Anything detailed this kind you're just

roaming around seeing if you know in general

if there's anything you're interested in but

And I did some cool things I think Greg did more

cool things than me. So I'll just list off my

list of things. But I did get a print from an

artist that I really like. His name is Greg Horn.

He does like some really it's almost like photorealistic

type of art. If you Google Greg Horn art, you'd

see some of his stuff. But I remember really

liking this one. this one piece of art that he

did of Galactus. And when I saw that he was there

at his stand, I was like, oh, that's really cool.

And he was selling these prints. They weren't

original, obviously, but they're just prints,

color prints. They're only 20 bucks. They're

like 11 by 17. So I was like looking through

his binder and he had the Galactus one. So I

bought that. And he was actually at the table

sort of doing all the sales. So when I... Asked

him for that one. He took it out and signed it

and everything and so that was pretty cool to

meet him He seems like a really nice guy What

what books would I know him from or you know,

I'm not really sure. I don't know if I Mean,

I think he just does like kind of he does a lot

of covers Yeah, it's mainly what you see him

through is his cover work. I don't think he does

a whole lot of interior work at all I mean, maybe

maybe some but There was a lot of cool stuff.

I mean he had a ton of great prints there and

you know I wanted them all but I was kind of

limited on budget so I had to pick my favorite

but another cool thing I did get a end up getting

a free near -comicon t -shirt nice because Chevy

was there Chevrolet and They had this thing where

you fill out a survey you can get a free t -shirt

and stuff so I kind of like when I was going

there I was kind of like I want to get a near

-comicon t -shirt and just looking at them they're

only 25 dollars and my co -worker mentioned that

if you do this survey thing they give you a free

one so we ended up doing it and i was happy i

got my t -shirt so did you give him fake information

it's like yeah no i did because well i figured

i'm already getting a crap load of emails from

chevy anyway because i just brought a new truck

last year So I'm like, what's the difference

with a couple more emails from them? And then

the first one I got, I unsubscribed from it anyways.

I was like, yeah, that's how we get a free t

-shirt, ladies and gentlemen. So that was fun.

And then my one cool little story, other than

I found some graphic novels that I bought and

stuff, but I found this this doomsday. It's kind

of a figure slash statue, but it was from. This

special line a few years ago the Maddie collector

line. It was called the signature series and

this is a This is a doomsday figure. It's like

10 inches tall things massive Doom it doomsday

is one of my favorite characters and I I've never

actually seen this thing in person and I saw

one of the stands had it there so I remember

you know asking the guy what he wanted they wanted

a hundred bucks for it while that's still a good

deal i obviously didn't want to pay that and

you know the art of haggling as i've learned

from the american pickers is um you know and

it's something you have to practice that so i

was like well i'm not going to carry it around

all day so i'll go back later in the day which

i did and uh ended up i offered the guy 80 for

it he wouldn't take it he would only go to 90

and this and that so i kind of like you know,

stayed firm and what I wanted and kind of walked

away. And, you know, it was very polite and everything,

like nobody was mad, but kind of turned away

with my friend Tom. And we were talking. The

guy actually like follows me over. And this is

this is the cool part of the story. He's telling

me he's like, well, he's like, I'm going to make

a deal with you. And I'm like, oh, boy, here

we go. And he's like. He's like, I'm actually

from Las Vegas. And he's like, you know, I'm

a bit of a gambler. So he's like, what do you

say we settle this with a coin toss? I was like,

okay, I'm listening. And he's like, all right,

I flip a quarter. And he said, if I win the toss,

you pay the $90. You win the toss, you get it

for $70. So he even went lower than what I offered

him. Hmm, you know just trying to kind of entice

me into doing it. Yeah, and I'm like, you know,

I thought about for a second I'm like All right.

Let's give it a shot. What the heck, you know,

I don't know what made me do it I just felt like

in that mood at that particular moment. So like

let's do it And so you can provide the coin cuz

you know, you're thinking, you know doubles that

well, that's it's funny cuz that's what Tom was

saying He's like he's like you better check the

coin make sure it's not like a two -headed. Yeah,

you know and So he's like, yeah, you could call

it in the air. So I called heads and it hit the

floor and it was heads. So I got this thing for

much cheaper than he was actually asking for

it. And I was pretty excited about that. And

I thought it was a really cool story, the way

to happen. So I thought that would be cool to

share on here. But nice. That's pretty awesome.

Yeah. Was he very devastated when he lost it?

In a way, because like it was funny. I could

see when it hit the floor I could see it was

head like immediately and he like It took forever

to announce that it was heads because like he

didn't want to like accept it He's like bending

over looking closer. He's like, uh, I'm like

dude. I could see its head like five minutes

ago He's like, oh, yeah, it's heads. Did it land

yet? It's like it's not moving I think it's still

like wait there could be a tremor and it'll flip

over It was pretty funny I It's just I've never

had anything like that happen before, so I thought

that was pretty funny. Yeah, yeah. Very cool.

Greg, how was the con for you? Really good. I

spent the first two hours of it waiting in line

to try and get a wristband for Toyotokyo, which

they counted out and they were like, okay, it's

gonna be capped right here, this is the last

person to get a wristband. And it was like 10

in front of me and people were like, oh, and

they moved out of the line, whatever, but we

were all welcome to stay there wherever we wanted

to see. this lady's count was off or not she

was like my counts never off it's never off it's

my counts usually dead on I'm like okay well

it could be a little bit off I'm only about after

some people left I was like I'm only like four

away from this guy so it was I thought it would

be worth the wait yeah maybe they miscounted

on wristbands who knows things happen so I figured

I chance it and yeah it ended about a good 30

to 50 people away from this guy. She was way

off. It was way in front of this guy even. And

if I knew that I would have definitely been out

of there. So I kind of wasted the first two hours

of my con. I picked up some pre -commissions

that I got before the show started. So a lot

of those turned out really awesome. The one I

was kind of disappointed in, I asked this one

artist. I don't think she's really well known,

but she does some stuff on the bombshell for

DC. It's kind of like what happens if these superheroes

were around during World War II kind of thing.

And it's a lot of the heroines of DC. And so

I really like the one Batgirl statue that I have

of where she's kind of like in a more aerial

parachute kind of Wardrobe as opposed to batwoman

who's kind of in a baseball leader own kind of

thing so I asked her for batgirl So I go over

to her table, and I'm like hi. I have a commission

with you. My name's Greg She's like okay. What

did you get? I'm like bombshell batgirl I don't

have anything for a bat bombshell batgirl Like

crap so yeah finally she finds out that she misread

it and she already had a bombshell supergirl

like pretty much done all she needed to do is

color in a little bit and add some Tonal values

for the skin color and everything. She was like,

oh, do you want me to redo it? I'm so sorry.

This never happens and especially after Some

experiences at Baltimore con where I still haven't

gotten One of my commissions from there. I just

wanted her to finish what was there So I have

bombshell Supergirl and I'm not as we all know

I'm not a big super here Superman Supergirl kind

of category person So I this super girl drawing

now But otherwise it was pretty good. I spent

most of my time an artist alley I got some certain

did she at least give you like a discount for

that for me Really? Yeah, nothing. She was just

like I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry

but what was cool was chuck was kind enough to

get me some uh exclusive funko pop figures and

wait in line because he won the raffle and everything

uh so he kindly grabbed those for me thank you

chuck i appreciate it they're they're displayed

uh prominently on my dresser then i also picked

up some other like little kind of like vinyl

figure kind of things And I got a Japanese puzzle

box which my dog's collar is now in and Yeah,

that was about it besides the the one big end

of the day thing that Chuck will talk about I

Was gonna let you do it Yeah, so We ended the

day on pretty much the highest note you could

possibly imagine as far as a comic -con goes

We ended up getting a photo taken together with

Stan Lee himself. Nice nice nice. Yeah, and this

this was a This is like a new thing that New

York Comic -Con is doing these photo ops to actually

you schedule them ahead of time you pay for them

and schedule them ahead of time and What it does.

It's it just allows It allows you to have up

to four people in a picture. So you can kind

of like split the cost of it, basically, which

was nice because the photo with Stanley, whether

it was one person or, you know, four people,

it was one hundred bucks. So being that there

was four of us, we were able to split it twenty

five a piece. And like you get a picture of Stanley

for twenty five bucks, which is pretty awesome.

It's like once in a lifetime thing. So and you're

there with all your friends and everything. So

that's pretty neat, too. Yeah. And the cool part

is the picture came out great. Like nobody was

blinking or like yawning or anything. Like everybody

looked like great. It was like perfect smile.

Like I don't know how we pulled it off. But the

one thing that kind of disappointed me about

the whole thing, though, was like when we ordered

the tickets ahead of time, you know, they they

kind of made it sound like you have this appointment

at seven o 'clock and it said do not be there

any earlier than six forty five. So that's what

we did. We got down there exactly at that time.

Well, there was already like a hundred people

in line Yeah, and I'm like, how the hell does

this happen? Like I was kind of mad and so we

actually didn't get the picture with him till

what was it like 745 probably and I mean, not

that it was a huge, huge deal, but it was just

annoying because it was kind of misleading the

way they represented it. It was kind of like,

you're going to get your picture at seven, you're

going to be done. And I thought we would at least

get like 30 seconds to like talk to the guy.

In reality, it took about 10 seconds. You're

in a line, they rush your group in, they place

you like you're standing behind them, then they...

hurry up okay smile snap the picture okay you

guys gotta go next group coming in and it was

like like greg said less than 10 seconds we were

actually there it was like a blink of an eye

yes it was by quick i think i one kid in in line

in front of us described it really good it was

like a fever dream it was just like did that

really happen and then like you know, at least

I don't expect to stand there and talk to the

guy for half an hour, but I at least wanted like

a minute just or a half a minute just to ask

him. And they just totally rushed us in and out.

They said absolutely no shaking hands, which

I kind of get with that many people. But, you

know, if they didn't allow so many people to

do it, they would be able to give people a better

experience. But I think they kind of just like

they kind of got greedy with the tickets and.

You know, it kind of decreased the quality and

the experience and everything like that. But

I think you'd get a fist bump at least. I mean,

you know, that's actually what I said when I

walked in. I was like, can we fist bump? And

the one guy shrugged his shoulders. Like, I don't

know if Stan knows what that is. I better not

try to. Yeah, it'll be awkward. You think you're

going to try to punch him in the face. It's like

Ed's fist was coming at me. Like security tackles

me and everything. Like handcuffs and stuff.

but I didn't even know if he was relift first

because he looked like a wax figure sitting there

like he's sitting in the chair not moving and

we're like stand there I'm like this could be

like a Ripley's you know one of those wax figures

in the Ripley's museum like I don't even know

if this is the real I definitely proved that

he used the actual Stanley yeah we you said you

said hi to him and I think I did right after

you yeah it was it was kind of funny because

I'm like hey Stan And then all of a sudden, I

hear Chuck go, uh, hi, Sam. There's like a little

like rush of a thing there that you heard me

do. And you're like, okay, I could do this. Yeah.

Well, I felt like I didn't want to be like, I

wanted to be cordial. You know what I mean? Like

we're. We're not just there like for your picture,

like, you know, we actually like you, you know,

so I kind of wanted to express that a little

bit, but. And he kind of didn't he like kind

of chuckle when he said hi back or something

Yeah, he kind of turned to me and he was like,

hello I don't even it was because I would had

my head up at that time because I was waiting

for the pic I didn't know when the picture was

gonna go off. So I had my head up the entire

time Was him kind of turning around looking at

me and he said I think he said hello back or

something I don't really remember. Like I said,

it was a fever dream Yeah, it was so fast. It

was kind of disappointing Well, I guess you know

you can say even so that's at least cool and

you got the photo evidence to prove it So yeah,

I actually did a survey when I got home the other

day They like emailed me a survey and I took

it and I kind of complained about the photo ops

like yeah But it was kind of poorly executed.

I'm like, I will not be purchasing another photo

op It's a waste of money and time and stuff.

So I slammed it really hard Yeah, that's like

that is kind of that does think it's like Especially

like knowing that he's getting up there and what

probably not that many cons left at him like

give people an opportunity This was his last

New York on really. Yes, which is probably what

they were milking in as much as possible because

they wanted Yeah, yeah. Well, that's disappointing.

But what? Well, you guys were at New York Comic

Con. I was reading about it. So that was fun

There was a lot of news that dropped different

comics and stuff like that, but one of the biggest

things I don't know but one thing that did happen

was that The trailer for the new Power Rangers

movie came out and we are children of the 90s

So we did grow up watching the Power Rangers

and currently reading the Power Rangers by boom

studios Which is a pretty good comic but greed

Yeah, I know Greg you really didn't get to see

it but Chuck you did so I would be interested

in You know what your overall thoughts were of

the Power Rangers trailer. I thought it looked

pretty good. I guess In the beginning, I thought

it started off really strong and actually like

the kid that's playing Jason I kind of thought

that was Billy at first just because he kind

of looks like the original Billy a little bit.

Yeah so my mind just went to that immediately,

but I heard them later on call him Jason, but

It seems like even just from the trailer, I get

this sense of like a camaraderie between these

kids already, like they're going to have kind

of a strong chemistry on screen. I hope that

proves to be true. But one thing I wasn't expecting

was kind of them having the. The superpowers

just in normal everyday life. Yeah, they show

them like breaking the sink They show them jumping

then over the the canyon and stuff like that.

I was like, okay That's a little weird. But I

mean, I guess whatever yeah, like I thought they

only had their powers when they you know morphed

kind of like You know, obviously they have their

martial arts training matter what but I know

that thought that was the purpose of morph in

time was in order to then morph into being a

superhero. So right, right But yeah, I mean overall

I I think it has some promise. I'm kind of looking

forward to it. I Think what's her name? Oh my

gosh straight in the end of my tongue with banks

Elizabeth banks. I I am a big fan of hers I like

her a lot. So I'm really curious to see how she

does is read her pulse. So I think that will

be highly entertaining. Yeah You know, like I

said, I it looks like they have pretty good chemistry.

I hope that comes through in the final cut. So

Yeah looking forward to it at going into this

I didn't know what type of tone it was gonna

be like I remember seeing some of the images

of Rita and she's got this like really bright

green Costume on and I thought it was gonna be

a little bit more slap like more like Pacific

Rim maybe or even a little bit more Little bit

comedic. I guess not comedic a little cheesy

in a way. I don't know Basically, maybe the tone

of something like 21 Jump Street. That doesn't

take itself too seriously Like that's what I

thought I was gonna go, but this is pretty straightforward

It's not like it's not cheesy like the cartoon

like the TV show of the 90s. It's definitely

a more I think you know mature tone without being

like, you know Batman versus Superman dark or

anything like that, but That that was a little

bit. I don't know how I feel about that. I just

hope it doesn't try to be like too cool It's

nothing like that fan film they made was it like

two years ago? That was like ridiculously dark

and everything and yeah, that was intense Yeah,

so nothing like that, but I do think it looks

good. The uniforms are I don't know I'm getting

used to them. I guess like they're different

Yeah, they basically are and I know a lot of

people made the comparison to the the movie the

trailer to like Chronicle that runs them a lot

and I can kind of see that I am kind of confused

because they're not all wearing the same color

So Halloween supposed to know which one is which

like I thought that was the whole like, you know

the black right? You're supposed to wear black

all the time Like that's come on now. It's Power

Rangers 101 and we don't get to see the Zords

much So they did kind of like alter the lore

a little bit as if like Power Rangers lore is

gospel But it's you know, whatever so that I'm

interested in I mean, I'm not gonna I guess I

don't have huge hopes for it to be honest just

because it's a Power Rangers movie, but it could

be it could work it could work maybe like a The

next thing after Transformers, it'll kind of

fill that void, even though we're getting another

Transformers movie, but it seems kind of along

the same vein as that from what I saw. I'm just

really glad they didn't bring in Michael Bay

to do the Zords. That's true. That's true. Yeah.

There's millions of sharp edges. No. I will say,

at least at the Comic -Con. The Power Rangers

were actually pretty huge. Really? I saw a ton

of Power Rangers stuff there. I don't know if

it's probably, you know, partly because of the

movie and everything. But I saw a lot of merchandise,

a lot of new toys coming out, you know, some

shirts and stuff like that. There was people

cosplaying as the original Power Rangers. Actually,

those were really good costumes to that group.

I'll have to show you guys the pictures. But

yeah, they were their presence was was felt there

for sure. There was a lot of Power Rangers stuff.

Guess they're making a comeback. I mean it makes

sense. It's like Yeah, don't call it a comeback.

I won't call it come back They've always just

I can't call that come back because they've had

like 24 shows in a row So they've never really

gone away. They have so Interesting interesting

All right any other news or anything else you

guys wanted to talk about before we take a quick

break and come back to talk about Luke Cage How

about the newest rogue one trailers you guys

see that oh that was beautiful I Want that movie

to exist now Yeah, that does look really really

good Yeah, you get a little bit more backstory

a little bit more plot. I don't know. It looks

I'm excited They kind of show the Vader cameo

a little bit for a split second No voice though.

I'm gonna say I mean I think they have to have

James Earl drones, right if he's gonna be in

it They have to that's a that's a must -have

the people will be riding in the streets of that.

Yeah Yeah, but is that December that's coming

out? Yeah, so we're on the same time as the one

last year Ben Mendelsohn looks like a great Imperial

villain Don't know it looks like it's got a good

lot of good going for it It's I think a very

different type of style than that of force awakens.

It looks a little bit more putting the wars in

Star Wars, so Finally something to look forward

to in 2016. Yeah, exactly Instead of all the

crap this year. It's like the worst year ever.

Yeah, it's Least we'll end on a high note. I

guess you know Star Wars so That I am certainly

excited for. Very nice. All right, so what we're

gonna do is take a quick break and when we come

back, we'll be talking about the power man himself,

Luke Cage. We'll see you in a bit. Hey guys,

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Yes, today we're gonna be discussing Luke Cage,

and since we already got our general thoughts

last week, I will say we're just gonna... go

right into it, give spoilers away. So if you

have not listened, sorry, if you have not watched

the actual Luke Cage show, I would say stop,

go back, finish that, because what else are you

doing? Come on now. More priorities people. And

then come back and listen to this. I think it'd

just be easier to just get right into it as we

go. I know last week we didn't all finish it.

We were all at different spots, but now we're

all done. So maybe Greg, I can start with you.

Just what were your overall thoughts regarding

that of Luke Cage? really liked it for the most

part there was maybe small little things that

I don't even remember offhand but I thought it

was really well done it wasn't as good as daredevil

I still think daredevil is the best of all of

them but it was definitely better than Jessica

Jones I thought I thought the gentleman who played

Luke Cage did an awesome job I was very happy

that through most of it Oh crap, what's her name?

Rosario Dawson was there as the night nurse.

I just love her character at this point. It's

so great, easy to fall in love with that character.

Villains were pretty interesting, especially

Shades and Cottonmouth. I thought they were cool

and so was Diamondback. This was definitely more

of a psychology type of thing than just like...

Superpowers like busting heads back and forth

that kind of reminded me of old Incredible Hulk's

to be quite honest but a lot better done and

not as corny and It was like how the Incredible

Hulk back in the day should have been done kind

of and the thing that really stuck out which

I found Incredible I wasn't expecting was I thought

that music was really well done through the whole

thing There was a lot of music in there that

I really enjoyed especially The the main theme

I thought was was really cool So yeah, it was

I thought it was was really great Yeah, as I

mentioned last week, I absolutely loved it and

like I said, I wasn't sure where I was gonna

stand on it because I Loved both daredevils very

much really did not care for Jessica Jones at

all. And So this one I wasn't sure luckily this

one fell more on the side of daredevil. I thoroughly

enjoyed it. I think I would put the two Daredevils

slightly above it, but I did enjoy it quite a

bit. As Greg mentioned, one of the things that

stuck out to me the most was the music, and everything

just fit so perfectly. It built those dramatic

scenes and everything. I feel like Marvel hasn't

used music this well since Guardians of the Galaxy,

for sure. this I think maybe somebody said that

before but it's so true like everything just

like reflected the characters that were in that

scene type of music they were playing and everything

very very appropriate all throughout and for

me to like notice the music it's got to be pretty

significant because usually I'm just kind of

like I don't even notice it I'm kind of ignoring

it and stuff so that was well done another thing

I really liked how Luke Cage was sort of different

than in the comics in the way that they sort

of made him like the super nice guy. Like he

was extremely polite, refused to curse, you know,

all that stuff. And like, you know, in the comics

back in the day, he was not only cursing, but

they were coming up with like alternative words

to cursing that basically meant the same thing.

And, uh, you know, the comics were kind of riddled

with that stuff. You know, this was totally different

like he was the the total like almost like a

Boy Scout type character like didn't like anyone

swearing he he kept perpetuating pops swear jar

and everything even after he was gone So he's

kind of like he believed in those ideals even

though they were no longer in the barbershop

didn't apply and stuff So I thought that was

really cool. They did that one thing. I was really

happy with the character of Cottonmouth I thought

that guy did an excellent job. He made like such

perfect villain Personally, I thought they killed

him off way too soon I really wished he had been

able to stick around for a few more episodes

Maybe even till the end. I realized what they're

trying to do like bring a diamond back in and

everything And I know like the whole thing with

him being his brother and stuff was supposed

to be a better story But for some reason The

cottonel thing was working better for me like

that. I don't know like they had like a real

like rivalry going there like where you could

see the like He like luke cage is really getting

under this guy's skin and everything so I kind

of would have liked to seen that played out more

but he seemed a little bit more of a Complicated

character in a way like he obviously was an evil

dude like he would do But he was a little bit

more subdued, you know, like he would let it

kind of explode. He felt like along the same

lines as William Fisk in a way where he was able

to kind of put on that type of personality to

make within public, but every when he had to

he would explode in bursts of violence and things

like that where Diamondback was just kind of

crazy from the get -go. Yeah, and I think Marshal

Ali who's a guy who played Cottonmouth is a little

bit better of an actor. Yeah, so I think that

was a big factor, but I agree I He was he was

a huge highlight for me for the show and I was

kind of Like I get like there that's a powerful

moment and you can you can the story was able

to be built upon that but I After he was gone.

I think that his presence was was needed for

a while and eventually You know cotton not that

diving back and came or rattlesnake. There are

a lot of snake names. They love their They got

almost a whole serpent society. Yeah One thing

I liked about Cottonmouth too was he was definitely

playing the head games. He knew he couldn't match

Luke Cage's physical prowess, but he was trying

to turn the whole city against him and stuff

like that. I really liked that aspect of it.

You hit the streets and you're seeing the people

actually still are with Luke Cage and they, you

know, they start telling him that they started

seeing, seeing him out there. They started telling

him that. And it's really like a cool, cool moment

when you're looking at like, you know, this guy

controls everything in the city and he's like

trying as hard as he can to influence the people

and sway their opinion of him. And it's just

not working. because of Luke Cage's actions like

are speaking louder than the words like they

know what he's doing for them and stuff and that

was a really cool plot for me like Greg said

it wasn't your typical like smashing back and

forth just trading blows it was it was really

like about the mind games and stuff like that

and I thought that was really awesome I also

enjoyed too how like you know towards the end

you know you really start to see Misty Knight

kind of losing faith in the system so to speak

in the in the legal system and stuff like that

whether if you know if they do a second season

if she's going to become her superhero character

i'm not sure they kind of like alluded to that

with the arm thing yeah yeah like i don't know

she'll lose the arm and she gets like the the

stark bionic arm i don't know if that's gonna

happen rocky raccoon comes and says i need that

arm and then right Is it bad that like in the

first episode I didn't at all realize that that

was misty night until like You know when they

basically said it in episode two. I'm like, oh

That makes more sense. I did the same thing though.

I Was like, okay now I get it. Yeah, I will mention

one one or two negatives and I may be alone in

this but For whatever reason there were two characters

in this that I did not care for at all For whatever

reason, I'm not even quite sure why but I could

not stand the character of shades I felt like

he kind of like He was just kind of creepy to

me and like he felt like he had sort of like

this faux power Like he kept talking about how

he was such a big shot but like in the end like

he wasn't one of the You know crime bosses so

to speak and it was just weird. It's like how

is this guy coming in? you know talking to Cottonmouth

like this and you know trying to persuade his

cousin into doing all these things and he just

seemed like sort of a weasel type of character

to me for most of the beginning I mean he gets

he's a little bit of redemption at the end you

know in the elevator scene and stuff but I felt

like for most of it he just kind of was like

annoying to me and I really didn't like especially

the whole shades thing too it was like really

lame but Because they were like that was a joke

and then I realized oh, that's actually there

No there that's his real name because I think

the first person that says it is Luke Cage, right?

And I'm like, I thought he was you know, kind

of a dissing him like Oh sunglasses during the

day there but and like Yeah, I don't know sunglasses

at all. But to me they looked like two dollar

like cereal box sunglasses like a really small

head so So he was one of them and then The other

one actually was Cottonmouth's cousin. I think

it's Mariah was her name. I just I did not like

her I think There were some scenes where she

was very genuine, but there were other scenes

where it was like Man, I guess she was trying

to be fake, but it just came off a little too

strong for me. Like I don't know Especially the

the scene at the end where they were they're

actually interrogating her in the room It was

just so fake and I'm like Even like I know they're

trying to get that point across but still too

fake for me She's like doing the fake crying

and the fake concern and I was like, I don't

know. I don't know about this character, but

She felt to me like the evil Oprah which I can't

which is what I kind of liked about it Or more

evil Oprah. I don't know. However, however you

want to take that but I did actually like her

as a character because I felt like she was Her

in cottonmouth. I kind of really like that relationship

where it goes and stuff like that. So Yeah, I

shades I could take him I didn't expect him to

be as big of a character as he becomes by the

end I thought he would be like, okay, he's there

and then maybe he'll notice Luke Cage or I was

waiting for Luke Cage to kind of like Take him

out like I felt like he you know But he survived

to the end that if you asked me in the beginning

of you know I would assume well shades dies and

cottonmouth makes it to the end, but it was the

opposite So but I did find I did get get some

respect for him as I went on and it didn't seem

like I don't know like he had this like better

understanding of like everything that was going

on like Like there was things he knew that seems

like no one else was aware of he was like ahead

of the game I don't know why that is if he's

a character in the comics. I don't remember him.

I don't know. I've read some of the kids I haven't

read a lot of the old stuff, but Anything else

before I get my general thoughts? Are they just

gonna make no like connection to? the lady that

played mariah dillard was the same lady from

Avengers age of Ultron that met Tony Stark in

that hallway complaining about her son being

killed I guess they're not gonna acknowledge

that at all. I guess not I don't know if she

was like cast in that and they're like, yeah,

who knows they're there You know, they're twins.

They just don't know it. Yeah, and I guess I

mean she had totally different hairstyles So

maybe it's different enough where they just like

maybe most people won't notice Yeah, cuz notice

well my Carol my wife was like wasn't she in

the you know, Civil War. I'm like, yeah Yeah,

that I don't think was the same person. Yeah

Civil War not age of Ultron. She was talking

about age of Ultron, but yeah So I enjoyed it

a great deal I liked everything Marvel's done

Netflix wise to this point and I thought I think

I enjoyed this a little bit more than than Jessica

Jones What I liked about it was similar to what?

how Daredevil very much used his Catholicism

to kind of richen the themes of that film, of

that show. Like there was a lot going on here,

similar. Like Luke Cage, when he was first created,

was very much a product of his time. You know,

I love the throwback we get here with the yellow

shirt and the tiara, you know, back in the 70s.

He was so much a 70s character, and he's kind

of been reinvented. But I think like now, somehow,

he's... Come back in the fold and he's been able

to kind of reflect the times of today and you've

seen you see that throughout It's from you know,

the use of Harlem's culture to everything politically

and socially is going on. So that he ends up

being kind of a Walk into his wrong word, but

like he's been he's I think be able to come a

stronger character not because of his own traits

but Because of things that around him that he's

been able to represent Not that I like him a

lot as a character as well, but I think that's

helped a great deal Think the acting around overall

is was pretty strong. I love the fact that it

had like 18 actors from the wire And it's like

every other scene. It's like oh that guy's a

character in the wire. Oh There's another one

and all the scientists got he was in the wire

I know he's evil because he was evil in the wire.

I I really enjoyed mr. Knight as a character

too. I like I think you could Easily even get

a show based on that character I did not expect

it to take as much time and develop her and focus

on that character as much as I did but I thought

it worked pretty well and like Greg when Rosaria

Dawson came in it was She was she brings a life

to it I love how she's been kind of the Phil

Coulson of these universes being able to pop

in here and there keep them all connected Beyond

that there's always this this really good biblical

theme that went went to it. I love from like

seeing Luke Cage actually choose his name and

how he comes up with it to you know I am my brother's

keeper and in their ties to to one another. My

biggest issue with it with the season though

is kind of like the plot regarding Diamondback

in the sense of it seemed really convenient the

fact that you have Luke Cage you know coming

on the stage becoming this character and Diamondback's

there and he's kind of Been in the background,

you know being mentioned since in the beginning

and then he also so he's just you know, well

known crime person within You know the the system

and then he's also lucate his brother like it

It just seemed like did they need like I felt

like the way they handled that was a little bit

messy. It's like Yeah, they could have in a way

maybe not even mentioned him or somehow make

it seem a little little less force because it's

like You know Luke Cage up to this point is not

a known force and you know, they're bringing

diamond back in and up But to that point they're

bringing him in not because of his relationship

to Luke Cage well because of everything else

so it did seem a little bit like that like that

kind of came out of nowhere and Logically doesn't

kind of fit all that much I liked where it goes

and where ends up but I almost wonder if it would

make some somewhat of sense if they kind of flip

the script where they taught they start with

diamond back and they get into Cottonmouth who

seemed more like Who's to me seemed like a stronger

villain? I do like the style of very black sportation

like Light not so much if you go back and watch

a lot of black sportation films that you have

that here very heavy themes that are very apparent

very Overt and I think that was very similar.

But yeah, it was it was really good Kind of methodically

paced like I think the action wasn't up to the

same level as daredevil when it was there I enjoyed

it but Also thought it finished the strongest

maybe not Maybe that's hyperbolic, but I thought

it stayed really current like I thought it was

kind of slowing down Then episode 12 hit and

I think that was probably my favorite episode

Specifically the moment that he breaks up the

the robbery and the convenience store And he

just smacks the guys in the face like like like

he would like a bug. I don't remember that moment

Just like the fact that randomly method man was

there Method man is he's ever -present. He's

everywhere. But just like you wear a double XL

I Just thought it was funny because it makes

sense. You have this dude who's like super strong

So if you have this normal human being he doesn't

really have to hit him that hard so you can just

like, you know Like backhand them lightly and

it's like getting punched in the face. I thought

it was just really I don't know I found it very

funny and so I really liked that scene. I liked

what they did with diamondbacks costume where

they sort of You know, you had the zipper down

and it sort of made it look like the belly of

a snake Yeah with the yellow coming out and it

was kind of a ripped thing. Yeah, I thought that

was pretty cool. I did too. What I didn't like.

It's ugly as hell. Yeah, but it looked cool.

The color of that green color. Oh my gosh, the

green with the yellow is a puke green and then

the weird ass helmet. Yeah. But what I didn't

like was that whole fight. Like he was like kicking

the shit out of Luke Cage. And I'm like, come

on, man. Like, what the hell? And like, I guess

like the more I thought about it, it wasn't so

much. I don't think it wasn't so much as he was

stronger than Luke Cage and everything. I think.

Luke was kind of holding back because it was

his brother. He was still trying to reach him

on some level. So I kind of took him took it

more that way. And he finally realized that he

couldn't. So he just had to finish it. And then,

you know, obviously he's thinking during that

whole thing about the boxing match reset to tire

him out. But I just thought they made it look

like he struggled a little bit too much because

I'm like, he should still be mopping the floor

with this guy because he's had these powers for

much longer than Diamondback has been using this

power suit. You know, he have better control

over them. He should be able to you know, just

destroy this guy But yeah, I I can see that but

I guess they had to try to build, you know tension

in some matter of fact way And I had to say like

I'd like you mentioned think partially was that

being resistant to trying to basically kill his

brother because like I mentioned with the one

thing it seems like he did for the most part

hold back his powers as much as possible and

I think maybe he thought if he part of it like

what I saw too was like if he felt like if he

went forward and he thought he would have to

kill him and you know I think that was something

he tried to avoid throughout throughout the show

was going down that aspect of killing. There's

that really great moment during the funeral for

Pop where he sits down with the one lady who's

about to basically shoot. She's caught mouth

for basically, you know, for taking her father's

ring and things like that. So he kind of just

sits down, talks to her, walks away, and she

pulls out the gun. It's basically been bent into,

you know, so she can't use it. So I did like

how he had as a... Character the cage to kind

of figure out who he was and what he represented

like he there was a lot of challenges he faced

and his from his little reluctant being reluctant

to do anything to to where he began so I don't

did you guys have any specific episodes or moments

or anything like that that you felt? Sit out

to you, or were they you're talking about I?

Guess one of the the best nerdy moments was when

he had the classic costume on yeah When he pulled

the yellow shirt off the clothesline and he still

had the metal tiara on and stuff. I agree. I

love that. And he even had the chain. He grabbed

the chain off. I was like, that's awesome. But

then he kind of made me poke fun at it because

he was saying, like, how awfully looked and stuff.

So that was pretty funny. Yeah. What do you guys

think of that episode as a whole, like the whole

prison episode with the flashback and how they

kind of. They did the Netflix thing where they

don't really get into the origin right away that

it takes them some time to kind of explain What

exactly happened to them? I? Thought it was good,

but one part that didn't make sense to me. It

was like They did that whole sequence while him

and his landlord were trapped in the rubble Yeah

building collapsing and usually you do that type

of sequence when the person is like knocked unconscious

or something And it's, I don't know, it just

makes sense that way. That's the way they usually

do it. Like he's, he's unconscious and he's like

thinking back over his past or something. So

they play it out that way, but he was awake through

that whole thing. Like he was trying to get out

of the rubble with his landlord and stuff. So

like it kind of worked, but it kind of was a

little forced, but I don't know. I liked it overall.

I thought it was cool. What did you think of

the action overall? Cause I know Yeah, it was

a little sparse, but I don't think they had a

huge budget for it. I'm assuming this is done

well, so maybe next year they'll have a little

bit beefier budget and maybe they could do a

little bit more action stuff instead of him just

getting shot and people going down. Maybe we'll

get more powers in there, so I'm hoping it leads

to next season. getting more action because it

was a little bit spare, but what was there was

good. I mean, we did get, of course, it's like

the role when it comes to Marvel movies. We did

have a hallway fight a little bit different with

the car door. Yeah. One one thing that that was

cool, too, was the little bit of explanation

of his powers that we got kind of when he went

to Georgia to see that doctor and they were talking

about like. And this is something that I had

not really realized or thought about, but it's

not just the surface of his skin that is hardened

like steel. It's actually all the way through

his flesh. Yeah. That's hard. And I thought that

was really interesting because that's not something

that I thought about before. And I was like,

oh, that's cool. Because even though he has a

wound, like an opening, still the flesh underneath

it is still just as strong as the exterior. So

I'm like, that's crazy. Yeah, that that was interesting

and it makes sense too because it I mean makes

sense as much as it could make sense But you

know if like you're gonna fall off a building

and you have bullpup scan if you know if you're

if you're Yeah, yeah mashed potatoes exactly

exactly. So I Did I did like that? I mean, I

agree the action was a little bit sparse But

I think it it didn't want to make sense at the

final, you know showdown was okay I don't remember

in the comic books him having a military background,

but in this he did. He seemed to be more of a

strategic fighter, more in the comic. He was

really just a street fighter that used brute

force. I just wish they kind of maybe displayed

that a little bit more. I guess maybe he didn't

really need to for the most part because he's

just super strong going against people shooting

at him. But every time you saw his shirt, basically...

Be really riddled with bullets and stuff like

that's that image. I thought it was always really

cool It was just really funny to watch so um,

yeah, and his like nonchalant attitude in in

fights where he was I don't know like he wasn't

like the you didn't really get the anger You

would get with like a wolverine. He just seemed

to kind of just go through the motions, which

was different Yeah, it was kind of like he was

annoyed at times. It's like time to deal with

this right now Like I think buy a new shirt now.

Yeah What do you guys think Will happen in the

future because like the way they ended it that

Doctor sort of salvages the hard drive of the

laptop that still has the information on it Obviously

diamondback is still alive even though he's badly

injured I mean, do you think they're gonna go

that direction or they sort of try to give him

those powers or I? Could see that I could see

that being a possibility of I wish I knew more

Luke Cage's villains, but I really don't know

any of them My I'm guessing maybe for like the

the future of it the way like, you know, you

get the misty night we're having iron fist and

Coming that maybe like it moves into the heroes

for hire. I was not expecting at the end with

Luke Cage you going to jail so how they how they

deal with that fallout and I'm curious like does

he meet someone in jail? Maybe he meets the Punisher

that that would be pretty awesome, you know I

was I was kind of excited for that but that's

maybe my guess is that somehow it kind of goes

into the heroes for hire and maybe you know diamond

back comes back as a more powerful character

in some way and Chuck or Greg if you any thoughts

Yeah, I just want to see more super powered people

kind of come in, come up more to his level physically.

I still like the little mind games back and forth

and it being a matter of intelligence, but I

would also like to see something a little bit

more threatening to him on a physical level as

well. So there's something there to maybe challenge

him a little bit more. Yeah, I can see that.

Yeah. One thing that kind of annoyed me going

back to the Jessica Jones season was how they

did the The 12 gauge shotgun blast up under the

chin was enough to knock him unconscious and

I was like, I don't know about that like that

doesn't even to be consistent with the other

things that you're doing here, but I Don't know.

So I thought that was interesting. I guess would

depend upon the amount of force maybe that That's

that's it. That's the tough thing when you have

a guy like that. Like how do you How do you build

it in that was kind of one thing I was wondering

like how do you he's fighting basically all normal

powered people for the most part till the end

obviously and I think that's maybe why the action

was sparse because There's only so many times

you get watch a guy beat up people that are you

know that are just shooting him with a gun So

I think they kind of used it when they could

So maybe if they do bring in more super power

people, they do have additional like, you know,

villains or additional heroes alongside him.

It could kind of make that action a little bit

more variety where you have something like Daredevil

or Daredevil, which is just two people fighting

and martial arts. So you don't really need as

much as a budget. You don't need as much as you

mean. Choreography is amazing, but I think it's

maybe a little bit more easier to do compared

to like getting a fight where people are going

to go through buildings, things like that. I'm

excited for the defenders now because I remember

that little teaser we got where you kind of hear

Sticks voice. Yeah saying like you four think

you're gonna, you know protect the world or something

And so now I'm like really interested to see

how they're all gonna interact with each other

We yes at all disappointed by the fact that Outside

of Rosario Dawson, we didn't really get any other

Netflix character like there were some mentions,

but Daredevil didn't show up Jessica Jones wasn't

there It was just pretty much look at the Luke

Atria Uh, I think I actually kind of expected

that I didn't think any of those would show up

except for Night Nurse So I didn't really have

an issue with that. I thought I thought Jessica

Jones might but Just because but I don't know

Greg. Were you at all disappointed by the fact

that We didn't get any more, you know, Marvel

cameos per se, no Punisher. No, because I thought

I was very happy that Rosario was there. And

I don't know, I thought there was enough going

on that I really didn't need an entrance of another

character. I thought the mentions that they did

do were quite well done because mentioning, I

know Good Lawyer and everything was kind of fun.

But no, I I wasn't expecting like anything big

cameos or anything like that Yeah, I get that

too because it's you know, you kind of want to

save that For defenders, I guess make it make

more be more special when they finally get together

I remember chuck you mentioned last week that

you had had some easter eggs I don't know if

you wanted to talk about those at all or yeah,

just talk about a couple because there's there's

literally dozens and dozens of Easter eggs that

you can find you can you know Google the whole

list, but a couple of the cool ones I wanted

to mention was Obviously you had the stanley

cameo with when he's on the little poster on

the side of the building Yeah, yeah, I thought

like I was so happy proud of myself that I saw

that I'm like no one else saw that and then I

went online Everyone else saw that Yeah, it was

funny because they kind of like left the camera

on it for like a couple extra seconds. And I'm

like, yeah, it was pretty blatant. But I'm like,

I wonder if anybody else caught that. Like I

saw I thought the same thing. So that was cool.

And then obviously, I mentioned the throwback

to the original costume was cool. Seagate Prison.

That was brought up in the was the extra scene

from Iron Man 3 with the Mandarin. Like remember

remember that little yeah, yeah extended movie

thing or whatever they call them that took place

at seagate prison So that was pretty cool tie

in there Yeah, I Don't think anybody was in that

scene per se like I don't think shades was hanging

out in the background. Maybe it was I don't know

but And this is this one's really obscure and

I did not catch this one at all, but this is

One of the ones I think is the coolest Apparently,

like in a couple of the scenes, they show them

at Mount Olivet Church, which is a big Harlem

landmark. But apparently in the comics, which

I have not apparently been following close enough,

but that is a frequent hideout of Spider Woman

because she hangs out at the cemetery and refers

to it as her quiet place. So that was a cool

little Easter egg there I Don't they're gonna

introduce her as a character, but I think it

was just kind of a little shout -out thing Yeah,

that'd be cool cuz she is like friends like best

friends with Jessica Jones. So yeah And then

yeah, I mean you have the Hellcat character,

which I'm not sure if they're gonna pursue that

but You know she was in Jessica Jones. That was

kind of cool. They also had her doing a little

voiceover thing During oh, yeah. Yeah, that's

right Yeah, so there was a little bit of cross

over there and then we mentioned the the thing

with misty's right arm You know if that ends

up getting amputated or something in the comic

she has a Sort of a bionic arm like the winter

soldier. I think it's is it that was made by

Tony Stark though, right? I I don't know honestly

i'll say yes, but I really don't know So yeah,

there was uh, those were the Kind of the high

points. I guess there's a ton of other ones if

you want to Google them like I think I saw there

was somebody had a list of like 40 or 50 of them

or something like that like all little tiny obscure

ones and stuff So we're all thinking rather successful

liking what they're doing here and super excited

for iron fist Have you guys seen the like the

brief? They've had like a you know, they had

a really small introduction trailer at san diego

comic -con Yeah, but then they introduced like

the actual like, you know two minute trailer

You guys excited for that at all? I don't think

you guys have read much Iron Fist from what I

remember. Well, I haven't read much Iron Fist

or Luke Cage. Yeah. There's not much Luke Cage

to read, honestly, outside of New Avengers. Yeah,

I'm definitely excited for that. I was kind of

like, I feel like they were really hinting at

that stuff at the end of Daredevil. Yeah. Curious

if they pick up there or if they will tie into

it later or how exactly they're gonna do that

but and then obviously his relationship with

Luke Cage is you know in the comics they work

together and stuff became friends so And then

if you remember for a while Was it was it during

Civil War after Civil War when Danny Rand actually

was Daredevil for a while It was before and during

before and during yeah, yeah So that was pretty

cool. I don't know if they would tackle anything

like that in the show, but that's uh, I forgot

all about that. That's about that. Yeah, that's

like and then there was Where you know, uh, you

had daredevil go to jail and punisher show up.

So Yeah, they kind of so yeah I I think I think

we're gonna see in the way of punisher coming

next year, too So I I enjoy the marvel movies,

but I think i'm my enjoyment of the tv shows

has been richer I think especially with daredevil.

Yeah, okay, so And especially because I think

I'm gonna be confused as hell watching Doctor

Strange That movie just looks like so confusing.

I don't maybe it won't be but I'm excited for

I'm not gonna lie. It does look weird, but yeah

All right. Anything else before we bring this

episode to a close? Alright, well overall we

all enjoyed Luke Cage so go out and watch it.

Most of you probably have, of course. But I'd

like to hear your thoughts, what you thought

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Movie Revolts. But that'll be it for this week.

We'll be back next week. Same time, same channel,

same podcast feed, but for now. This has been

Chuck. This has been Greg. Or Raz. Aw, R .I .P.

R .I .P. And this has been Dan, and we've been

talking in circles. We'll see you next week.

I will start jingling my keys just as I remember

them during my headache. Just show off a present

to your father. Did you like that, um, Luke Cage

Family Matters mashup? Oh yeah, I should have

brought that up. That was amazing. I'm sorry,

I didn't have a chance to watch it. Oh, it's

freaking hilarious. It works so well, it's scary.

It works so well, it's scary. It really is scary.

It's unbelievable. I don't know if he, the guy

who edited it, lightened the video at all or

anything like that, like the look of it, but

it looked like, you know, it just looked like

the opening from the, you know, accomplishing

everything from that show was amazing. Yeah,

like all the happy moments where they're smiling.

I didn't think there were that many. I know.

Like shots of people laughing and smiling. He

got all of them. He got all of them. I like how

instead of Urkel, they had Turkel. Yeah, yeah,

that was nice.

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