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SparkWar: The Strike, The Search, The Siege Review

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About this Episode

Steven C. Phillips, Mike Blanchard, and Michael Wilson analyze the three-part Beast Machines arc covering 'The Strike,' 'The Search,' and 'The Siege.' The hosts discuss the introduction of new Vehicon generals Obsidian and Strika, the controversial characterization of Optimus Primal and the Maximals, and the evolving role of Megatron. They also break down the plot points surrounding Iacon, the fate of the sparks, and the return of Rattrap's humor. Finally, the group reacts to the dramatic moments involving Savage/Noble and the series' darker tone compared to its predecessor.

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Hello and welcome to the world's first ever Beast

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know Mike and I'm joined by Peek on Court Michael.

Hey, how's it going? It's going and Steve grumpy

Megatron Bananas The fuck the bananas have to

do with anything Like a banana. Today we're reviewing

a three -pointer from season two of Beast Machines.

So Steve, what have you been up to? Working on

the fan version of Darkglass as well as various

other voice like TFN or Transformers movie abridged

which is quite funny and just got done watching

the new Nightmare on Elm Street, which is blasphemy.

Really? Yeah, uh... Freddy is... stupid. Okay.

I was kinda looking forward to that, too. Well,

there you go. There's your spoilerific review.

Freddy is stupid. Well, he looks nothing like

the original, so he looks really stupid, and

then he doesn't... he sounds more, I don't know,

pedophilally. Well, that's because you have Jackie

Earl Haley playing him and not Yeah So And what

has been going on at the house of Wilson Catching

up on blog posts and yes, you've got a lot of

them about damn time, too Yeah, you know I had

a backlog and I finally finished them and I processed

some photos and put those out there on our website

and Chris you put a bunch on Facebook Uh, you

know, we've been doing Halloween -type stuff

lately with the boys, and a lot of that went

up, and I also posted some photos of, uh, our

jack -o' -lanterns. We've got a lot of them now.

None of them are very good, but, yeah. Yes. Uh,

me? Uh, I'll probably elaborate more on a headshot

episode, but, um, the monitor I've had for the

past two years died the other night, and, uh,

yeah. Uh, I had to... do some stuff to, not anything

illegal or anything, I had to basically sell

some DVDs to get some money to get a new monitor

so I could actually have, you know, use out of

my computer. So, yeah, it seems like the last

two years, twenty, well, last three years actually,

2010, 2009, and 2008, the end of the year, like

once October hits, just, all things just go down

the shitter for me for some strange reason. I

don't know why. Okay. Yeah, so. On a positive

of questions on the forums. The first one mentions

you, Michael, the last episode that you brought

up the same thing that he was thinking in regards

to new looks for Optimus and crew. Logic aside,

this is a kids show after all. It's strange that

they would not have a new look toy to sell after

the switching around in Beast Wars. I wonder

why, maybe the toys weren't selling and they

needed as much publicity as possible, or maybe

they had already decided no new molds. Anyone

got the scoop? Well, we don't. I know, I don't

have the scoop. Yeah. Honestly, I don't think...

I mean, yeah, they made several different versions

of Optimus Primal from Beast Machines, like we

have Blast Punch Optimus and... a bunch of other

stuff but as far as new animation designs i don't

think that they had intended on upgrading anyone

else anymore because of the whole storyline of

beast machines of the techno organic stuff so

while it would have been awesome to see an upgraded

design between season one and season two of beast

machines i don't think it was going to happen

because of the overall story arc well not only

that but uh... hasborough already had their next

series pretty much dubbed and ready to go. Which

was RID. Because it debuted like pretty much

six months after. All I gotta say is if it's

not in English, good riddance. And number two

Godspeed says, I never watched Beast Machines

before, so I'm going through it as you guys do.

Gotta say, unless there is a quick turnaround,

this is one of the weaker TF shows I've seen.

Prime's Holy Quest is just off -putting, the

organic core is ridiculous, And Megatron is a

shadow of himself. I can understand why fans

were so upset at the time. If you look at it

objectively, they do more to trample G1 in the

spirit of Transformers in Beast Machines than

even Bay did. Which, I disagree with that, Godspeed.

Sorry, dude. Bay killed Transformers. They don't

even treat Beast Wars with respect that they

should. Come on, that Rhinox arc is not in character.

Suddenly reformed in the Matrix? awful please

tell me it gets better please i want to like

it i'm trying to like it so thank you for writing

in godspeed and yes you're not alone in the reynox

thing michael disagrees with that arc as well

i think we all do i don't i mean yes it's not

exactly in character i will agree with that but

it was just the way that stuff progressed i guess

As far as Megatron being a shadow of himself,

I disagree with that because he's much more darker.

He's much more maniacal. He's less comedic. And

of course, that was the whole point of this series

is it's dark and serious and there are no rubber

duckies or, you know, spider cat rape stuff stuff.

So, I don't know. i think that uh... he's an

evolved character same character just different

any other thoughts steve? i do feel they glossed

over beast wars a little bit but they were going

for a totally different feel to the show which

granted none of them acted in character and i

guess they were trying to evolve them but it

would have helped if they would have had the

original Beast Wars writers on to kind of keep

them more in character than what they were because

a lot of the time they didn't seem like they

were themselves. Yes. It's funny you mention

that because we had asked in the interview we

did with Mr. Larry DiTilio, we had asked him

something about as far as what would happen if

they had continued on or if they had asked to

do Beast Wars and not Beast Machines. Larry basically

told us that Beast Machines was network and Beast

Wars was syndication. So Fox didn't want Larry

and Bob. But Larry had said something about putting

them in space or putting them back on Cybertron,

but he mainly said that he thinks that it would

work better if they were just traveling between

the two planets or something like that. I don't

know, if Season 4 of Beast Wars had actually

happened, maybe we would have seen those, you

know, Transmetal 2 characters on Cybertron. Maybe.

So let's get into some episodes. The Sparks.

Optimus, what is it? The Oracle. Contacting me.

Warning me. Megatron was shielding the sparks,

preventing the oracle within me from finding

them. But that flash... Megatron must have moved

them. But where to? I'm not sure. But we must

retrieve them before Megatron destroys them.

Or worse. My enemies are going to be in locations

to which I will now direct you. I want every

Maximal destroyed. Except for Optimus. I have

other plans for him. The Sparks! What are you

doing? Fulfilling my destiny, Optimus Primal!

Uniting every spark on Cybertron into one power!

First up is Spark War part one and this will

be the three -part discussion that will just

be one long record The synopsis for part one

the strike is Megatron unleashes a new pair of

generals who are not exactly as they appear And

I know I still have to say this again Rhino really

I mean geez I actually wrote this down a few

minutes ago Name this tune! Oh, Night Screaming

your quips. Oh, that whole one -liner... corneacopia,

let's say, was just awful. Yeah, there was a

whole lot of one -liners. Megatron Head. Eek,

the eyes even emote. Because there's a point

where it just, like, they glow or something or

other. Yeah, those eyes had to be huge. Yeah,

they are huge. Uh, new generals take no backtalk

from Thrustinator. Thrustinator? Yeah, it's sad

that, uh, you know, Thrust is going back to being

Waspinator here. He's just getting slapped around.

He gets slapped around like three or four times.

Yeah. Um... Okay, I'm getting tired of the spark

-filled bots starting out as dumbasses, then

turning into geniuses. that was strategy no I

I know I know it was but if you look at the if

you look at the the pattern from tank knocks

yeah I mean I get it was strategy don't get me

wrong I know that cuz my next note is eek it's

a trap it's a trap only a true nerd would get

that exactly it's like Akbar in stereo Yeah.

Greatest generals in Cybertronian history. Really?

How come before this show I've never heard of

these assholes? Uh, they didn't get on the arc.

They stayed behind. I don't know. And my final

because of my monitor issue, I kind of slacked

off on watching these episodes. There's another

at any cost line. At any cost we will free the

sparks no matter the cost That's like optimus

fighting wars right there. You know anytime an

optimus says that he's gonna die Yeah, Steve,

what do you have for this one this first part

um I like how thrust thinks I'm top dog now all

the other two guys are gone, and he's like so

you'll listen to me And they're like yeah, shut

up Smack, you know, and then he's gone and Megatron's

like, haha. I got some bad asses now You know,

and then he's like, oh, I've got myself an inferno

and a rampage awesome Basically But um, yeah

and I like how the they have a lot more explosions

in this level they're in that this level this

episode and Primal's kind of getting annoying

with the oh, what was me? Crap Yeah, just I don't

know he's too I Don't know. It's just he's getting

annoying to me. It's They they should have so

much more. I don't know action should have been

added to his character I mean, I know he gets

it towards the end of the series, but He's kind

of a puss right now. Mm -hmm I'm still not too

thrilled with Botanical, but that's just because

I don't really care for her character. And Nightscream

is kind of redeeming himself, being nice to Silverbolt.

Trying to get him to warm up to Blackarachnia

again. I only really start to like Botanica when

she and Rattrap become entangled with each other.

Yeah, that's about the only time I start liking

her. But um, but yeah, definitely I would have

to say that I I'd like That they have a lot more

Megatron in this I like the new keywords that

these new generals use obliterate and terminate

even though it's retarded I Think that was just

a ruse. I know it's It's it's similar to like,

you know thrust over over burn or whatever after

burn and then Or overdrive that's what he says,

right? And just arm said after burn and yeah,

I don't know It's kind of stupid that they all

have their own little key command like that Yeah

Considering it's getting kind of redundant with

these screams all they're saying is different

words for either speed or destruction Yeah As

for the generals I like Obsidian Don't like strika

I Just like the design. I just like the design

for obsidian better. What is there not to like

about strika? She's awesome She's like a big

Viking opera singer. She's like guns. Yeah She's

she's like a more advanced tank or but smart

at the same time yet She Wants to take the other

Maximals back to her closet Okay, she's like

a female Arnold No, I will take you back to my

room and show you a good time. Well, you're not

voted because Michael and I both like Stryka.

Stryka's cool. Do I care? No. I created those

scumbags and I will destroy them. You wouldn't

have created them if you didn't need them, dumbass.

Yes, and you violate them. No, that's your job.

I create them, you violate them. That's how the

game is played. No, no, no, no. I am not your

pet, Barney. Thank you very much. You're full

of it. OK, anything else, Megatron? I like Rattrap's

line. Honey, I'm home. Yeah, I like seeing Rattrap

with a sense of humor again. Yes, it is quite

nice, especially starting with the last episode.

or you started doing it again. We've gone far

too long with everybody being serious and now

finally we have something to laugh at. And it's

almost too little too late. Season and a half

in, it's like, oh, haha, we see the old rat trap

again. Yeah, it's kind of late, but at least

they're doing it. Any other thoughts, anybody?

Michael, do you have any thoughts or notes? I

do. Of course I do. My monitor works. I've got

plenty of it. That's a coincidence. Yeah, that's

how things work. You watch things on the TV and

then they write them down. I like the Waspinator

parts reference. You know how many Waspinator

parts I got? They don't actually say that but

you know during the first battle thrust is basically

covered in little bits of thrust Okay, and then

they then they build a little wagon out of little

bits of thrust. Oh Yeah, that's right Yeah, it's

like tiny pieces of wasp and that are flying

through the air Rubber baby wasp eat bumpers

And then they tie them into, you know, they actually

take all the parts and build something with it,

which I thought was funny. And it's like, was

that the whole point of the mission to go and

collect thrust parts to build a wagon out of?

I mean, they need a wheelbarrow to farm with,

so I guess that makes sense. So they get down,

you know, back down to their base where Botanica

lives because she's a pacifist. Because apparently

you can't have a Transformer series without at

least one pacifist. Yeah, they had Tigertron

in season of Beast Wars. Yeah, and then you've

got first aid in G1. I will not play with diapers.

I don't know. I don't know what reference that

has. Yeah, coming from a guy who plays with diapers

on a daily basis, you know, it's not that big

a deal. That's leading too much into your personal

life. We don't need to know about that, Michael.

I didn't say I wore them. I mean, I got a two

-year -old. No, you said coming from a guy that

plays with diapers. Oh, well, yeah. That's so

much playing with the diapers as much as, you

know, changing. Wrapping them. Yeah, exactly.

Unwrapping and wrapping. It's kind of like a

present that I give myself every day. And it

keeps on giving. It won't stop. I'll be so happy

once we get in potty training. Anyway, uh, yeah,

one down, one to go. Night Scream is like, you

know, talking with uh... Silverbolt. Silverbolt,

and he says, you think I don't know that? I,

and then bang, fuck, I'm dead! Shot out of the

sky. I mean, this was just a very satisfying

moment for me. I was like, ha ha! He's dead!

This is awesome! But, uh... You know, it's pretty

bad. But you know, Team Silverbolt needs to get

shot down too. Because he's just being way too

emo. Uh... Yeah, nobody agrees with me. He doesn't

have the flipping hairs, so he's not totally

emo. But he is being a dark... dick. He's just

a giant dick the whole time. And the only person

who doesn't seem to mind is Nightscream. That's

because Nightscream wants to go find Savage Noble.

Oh boy. I want my dog. My dog. Lassie. I want

to pet my dragon. No, no, no. I have an even

worse analogy. Talk about a bad threesome. A

bat, a wolf, and a dragon. Oh boy. They walked

into this bar and they picked up Stryka. Now,

now, watch it there. And they rolled out with

her. No. Speaking of - God, stop it. Speaking

of - Speaking of Stryka. Oh, man. Stryka and

Obsidian, I was kind of hoping that they would

be able to combine. How cool would that be? You

know, like a duocon. And I was actually gonna

look up the name of the duo con who's like part

tank and part helicopter I think his name was

flywheels Yeah, I'm for no maybe that was the

jet Jeep guy I forget but There was a duo con

in g1 who you know who could do that? I thought

wouldn't that be the coolest thing ever I mean

as long as they're borrowing all this stuff from

g1 that would have been terribly cool You know,

and then we get into the stock footage for all

the flashbacks and I'm so sick of flashbacks

at this point I don't want to use any Content

over again. I mean, I don't I don't want to see

rehashed scenes at all Just you know, if you

if you have a flashback just kind of have the

character kind of rub their chin a little bit

Yeah, I seem to remember that and then move on.

I don't want to see the flashback because that's

just wasted time. You've only got 20 minutes

to work with here. We should be jam packing every

minute with action and interesting things. That's

the problem I have with this three -parter especially

is the first five minutes, and Michael, you brought

this up before, the first five minutes is recap.

Yeah, I timed it. It was actually like a minute

and a half between intro and recap. Not nearly

as bad as earlier, but it was still like, man,

do we really need... I understand it's a three

-parter, but this whole season has been nothing

but three -parters and four -parters or whatever.

Yeah. So it's like, do we need a recap every

episode? I mean, that's another minute that we

could see Nightscreen being shot out of the sky.

Woo -hoo! Uh, you know, and then we get to the

end of the episode, and, you know, as always,

the pacifist decides that they're not such a

pacifist after all. We refuse to fight! We're

not gonna fight! And then a giant bird comes

down and craps out a huge pile of guns, and,

eh, let's fight! And they go rawr. That was on

the G1 reference. Mm -hmm. I don't remember which

episode it was. Skylakes flies in and says, look

I brought guns and only people that listen to

the TFG on podcast will get that like toward

the third season yeah I'm really stretching here

but that's basically it you know the pacifist

is always like I'm not going to fight and then

at the end okay I'm gonna fight now yeah I just

it's like yeah way to go you know just complete

180 and all of your ideals and sure why not Yeah,

the one thing that I will give this three -parter

especially with the introduction of obsidian

and strika oh My god their theme music. I'm sorry,

but their theme music put puts Megatron's theme

music to shame in this show Oh, holy crap that

that big huge beat and is just so sinister. I

was like wow There really needs to be a soundtrack

for the show. Yeah, I tried to email in the guy

that actually did the audio for the show and

Yeah, I didn't get a reply Really I thought I

would but it's probably all under copyright.

There's nothing you can do about it. Well, you

never know Yeah, you never know unless you try

I suppose So like he can do it himself Yeah.

I guess we're gonna move on to part two then?

Sure. Spark War part two, The Search. Desperate

to thwart Megatron, the Maximals search for the

missing Sparks. Oh, well, duh, like we didn't

know that by the damn subtitle. Oh god. It's

The Search. The search for Optimus Prime. And

they find him. Want every maximal destroyed except

for optimus. I have other plans for him. Yes

Of course, it'll sound better when Megatron says

it So moving on a Redheaded stepchild is more

like it the only other The only other note that

I have for this episode, and I know I completely

slacked off on this three -parter, but Rattrap

Inventions Return, yay! The little spark thingamajiggers

to disguise themselves, to hide the signatures.

Six for the price of one. They worked for a little

while. Well, you know, I I don't know the whole

premise of blocking their signal in robot mode

just kind of rubs me the wrong way It's uh, you

know, that's something you would see at the beginning

of a new season You're not midway through a season

and that's certainly not this close to the end

of the season. I mean, this is a game changer

It's like it's like being trans metal took away

the energon overload and beast force It's like

this is the reason why we can't transform into

in the robot mode all the time and in beast wars

it you know turning into transmetal was this

is where we're cutting the season next season

now we don't have to worry about energon overload

anymore and here in beast machines it's okay

cut the season now we don't have to worry about

our robot mode signal being But it's not the

end of the season. It's right in the middle of

this season. So I'm just kind of discombobulated

here thinking, well, they've got all this new

stuff going on. They've got new generals, new

game -changing tactical changes. And really,

this should be a cut in season. Yeah, the problem

with your theory here as far as cut and season,

this three -parter is the three episodes before

the last four episodes of the series, so really

there was no other way for them to move it in

or move on with it because of the fact that the

series was ending and it wasn't getting picked

up again. I don't know about that. If you did,

then sure, I can understand that. We won't find

out until we interview Skier. Yeah. Well, if

he ever talks to us. He will. Well, I haven't

messaged him yet. I'm sure he will. Oh, okay.

Well, that would be nice. Yeah. Um, what else

you got, Michael? Oh, uh... You know, Rattrap

and Botanica don't like each other. So so of

course they're gonna be romantically involved

Well, they start arguing and then all of a sudden

they get like inches away, and they just kiss

and it's like ah Instant spark you know that

wasn't this episode No, no, it's later. Yeah

this episode. You know they get paired up for

a mission and they immediately start backbiting

and You know they're they're uh you know saving

each other's ass by the end of the episode, but

there's no Spark yet It's like it's it's all

metal inside, right? I'm a trigger deal with

it Of course that comes way later Now the Silverbolt

is all chummy with Nightscream, who is, you know,

the kid for all intents and purposes. Uh, he's

starting to be demeaning towards Cheetor, who

is not the kid anymore. And even Cheetor is like,

don't call me kid. That's, I don't, that was

one thing that I could not stand. Yeah. I mean,

you don't hear Silverbolt calling Nightscream

kid. Why not? I think you do, at least once.

probably but the thing is is that Silverbolt

knows what they've been through as far as up

to the point where they hit Cybertron and obviously

his spark was removed or changed or whatever

he knew everything up to that point and now he's

coming back and you know Blackarachnia basically

defends Cheetor and says hey you know a lot's

happened since you were you know since you've

got you know what whatever and you know yours

grown up and you know so at least they come to

the tears defense but yeah i i hated that part

i want that's the only time i want to just bitch

slap silver bull uh... silver bulls new bitch

slap ever since she got changed it uh... i like

the fact that the they went underground and found

i a con Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Hmm. I mean, it sounded

like the Prime was voiced by Gary Chalk. He was,

probably. Yeah, and... He has lips. Yeah, so

you have Optimus Primal, you know, being handled,

let's say, by Optimus Prime, this huge, green,

kind of animated statue looking thing. I don't

know if it was a hologram or what, but Optimus

Prime Sounded like he was voiced by Gary Chalk

He probably was Yeah, see I didn't like that

I'm not gonna be like, you know G1 ish and go

it should have been Peter Cullen, you know But

I mean he didn't even try to sound like G1 Prime

Well, did you look at the face of Prime? It was

Optimus Primal from season one of Beast Wars

You know, it was weird because from a distance

when he was looking up at Prime It didn't look

like he had a... It looked like he had a mouth.

But then when he picked him up and looked into

his eyes, you could see there was just a faceplate,

there was no mouth. So, I thought, well, maybe

not. It was definitely an Optimus Primal head.

Like, all they did was port it over for some

reason, not using Prime from Season 3 of Beast

Wars. Yeah, it just didn't look right to me.

But, I mean, like I said, they didn't even try.

I mean, I honestly think that David Kay could

have done a better G1 Prime than what Gary Chalk

was doing. It just wasn't, I don't know, didn't

like it. Well didn't, or correct me if I'm wrong,

didn't the whole Prime statue turn out to be

Megatron? It did, yeah. So. So yeah, it would

have been cool to hear David Kay transfer from

I don't know what the word would be. From Optimus

Prime to Beast Machines Megatron at this point.

I think that would have been cool to hear. I

think K has done a fairly decent G1 Optimus in

the past. Anyway, I don't want to harp on that

too long when we move along. Rattrap finally

finds his titty bar. In a hologram? It's the

hologram bar. I don't, I mean, it was supposed

to be like a travel agency, but, you know, he

kind of made it clear that, oh, look, this is

the, uh, the less respectable, you know, vacation

places, which, you know, titty bar. Yeah. Um,

Cheetor wasn't there, unfortunately. He could

have gotten the holodisc for Six Flags over Cybertron.

Which I think Megatron probably sent a tentacle

through. I never liked that ride. Speaking of

Cheetor, he's got the hand solo move down. He's

kind of like, watch this, and he tears off around

the corner, chasing a bunch of Veikons, and he

gets around there and sees like... You know,

a whole battalion of stormtroopers and goes,

uh! It runs back the opposite direction. Yeah,

that was awesome. Yeah, I like that. I thought

it was funny. I think that's what they were going

for. Oh god, now I'm flashing to a half Harrison

Ford, half Cheetor Design in Star Wars running

from the stormtroopers. I just thought that was

funny. But we got more Soundwave cameos. Yep.

Or more to the point that there was Soundwave

scattered all over the ground. And that was kind

of neat. I was like, alright, one of these has

got to be Soundwave, and the one with no legs

was clearly Soundwave. I think that was the generic

Cybertronian robot model that they used. It was

easy. Oh, well, it's a Soundwave copy. It's just

a little... robot with legs, arms, and a tape

deck on the front of him or whatever. I mean,

not just a tape deck, I mean he had like the

play button and everything underneath him. Yeah.

Yeah. It was pretty obvious. And Optimus, Optimus

Primal I should say because Optimus Prime shows

up in this one, but Optimus Primal, just so stupid.

You are so dumb, for real. He's falling for the

old hacked deity trick again. Like the first

time the hacked deity told me to jump off a bridge

and I did it, I should have learned! But he doesn't.

He falls for it again. Once again I was smarted

by Megatron. He ends up sending all of his troops

off in the wrong direction because he just can't

help but... You know take advice from the oracle

despite the fact that he knows it's so easy to

hack the oracle Even when it's yeah, yeah, well

in this case. It's not so much the oracle It's

it's optimus prime, but you know for all intents

and purposes optimus prime is a god You know

what would have been hilarious in this the whole

hologram thing Megatron is optimus prime If they

would have worked in the I am your father line

at some point What does that make us? Makes bacon,

what? Yes, I have a griddle. Is it a George Foreman?

No, mine broke. You broke your George Foreman,

oh wow. Crappy warranty. It was not made by Tony

Stark or Rampage. Oh wow. Talk about a Jericho

missile. He likes to fillet his fish. He likes

to fillet his fish? No, fillet, not fillet. That's

completely different. So Megatron, where exactly

do you keep your sparks? Wouldn't you like to

know? He keeps them in his heavily fortified

big giant head. I can hear everyone speaking

at once. It's like the ball cube. Or a lot of

semen. Because they're all at sea? But I don't

give them away to filthy women. No, not because

they're at sea. The other semen, Michael. I'm

done. I'm outta here. Are you serious? No. Oh,

God. Well, you know, we have to drag this show

down at some point. If two girls in one cup can

make it into this podcast, I think, you know,

one semen joke can. Uh, so is that all you have,

Michael? That's all I got. Oh, well, you know

what? There was one more thing. And I'm really

surprised Steve didn't pick up on it, but this

was the, uh, the triumphant return of, oh, yes.

Yeah. Megatron says it in the very beginning.

I didn't watch the very beginning, so unfortunately.

Dumbass. That was the best part. Yeah, so Steve

do you have any thoughts on part two? Yes, I

do like the I like the 3d optimus prime primal

optimus prime primal I like how they you know

try to be like oh, I'm your ancestor here Give

me your oracle connection and primals like sure

And then, you know, Megatron's like, dumbass.

You know, I mean, it's just... That's exactly

what it was. Dumbass. Basically, you know, Primal's

like, I believe everything that is from the past

of Cybertron. Megatron's like, a weapon I can

use against him. Stupidity. You know, just because

Primal... We're so dumb. For real. Dumbass. Yes.

But um Yeah, it was quite funny watching primal

just be like oh sure here. Let's hand over control

to Megatron You know let's share it And you know

it's I don't know it's just retarded, but it

was cool to see icon show up Yeah, that was really

interesting and that was nice Just to show I

mean That it is once again building upon the

past so again it cements this as the future Yeah

and see the other thing is and I'm surprised

they waited till I'm sorry to interrupt you but

I'm surprised they waited this long because they're

you know from from beginning of this series you

know as soon as they found each other as soon

as they're you know traveling down the hole to

get to the oracle they're like oh this is all

the past civilizations well where the fuck was

Iacon then if it's a part of the past civilizations

but they finally bring it up here they went down

the wrong hole Transformers go down the hole

Well, see, it's like a giant bowling ball. They

went down one of the three holes. And now they

happen to get down one of the other holes. God.

Oh, such horrible things are going through my

mind. And then Primal Omega Tron fall down the

last hole at the very end. But anyways, that's

what they call the rat hole. Turkey, cover good

reason. Okay, yeah. One ball, three holes. Ok,

anything else on part two? In terms of the little

random white cloud things that are in it, it's

kind of reminiscent of the energon. Yeah, I think

I'm going to have to go back and screen cap that

for art. I have it. I stole it from the wiki.

No, I'm going to screen cap it and you can use

the screen cap for art because the wiki pictures,

I'm sorry, they suck for the most part. Not this

one. Are they all low res? Yeah. Very lores sometimes.

Um, so, is that it for part two? Um, yes. Part

three, which is The Siege. Having discovered

the location of the missing sparks, the Maximals

race against time to stop Megatron from achieving

his ascension. I was waiting for him to say ascension,

dammit. Ascension. You, uh, uh. Oh, damn. I'm

gonna have to have Megatron say this as well

because I think it sounds better coming from

him than it will from me. And that was my first

it when Noble or Savage or Animal Pet of Night

Scream, whatever the hell you want to call them.

was attacking Megatron and going after him which

I think it's nice that they had that because

it shows that Megatron used this creature whatever

the hell it is because we never actually find

out I mean you know it's just it even though

it does have a mind of its own it can't speak

anymore and obviously when it was speaking it

was Megatron but I mean still it's nice to see

that this thing still has a you know it's not

brain dead It pretty much just follows night

scream around. Yeah, that's pretty brain dead

It's also, you know, not only being the lost

puppy look It's like I've been used and abused

by Megatron. I must fight him. Yeah Even though

it's Megatron's other half of his uh, his beast

contamination Mm -hmm used up and thrown away,

but am I the only one that felt bad for Noble

when he was crying? He's like whimpering and

I was like, oh poor puppy Well, my next note

- I can sympathize with that being that it's

not Megatron anymore and yeah Regardless of the

fact that he hangs around night scream, which

I can forgive him for because he's just a dumb

dog now He doesn't know any different. Yes. He's

like it's my master. That's my friend That's

my next note. Night Scream lost his pet. Aww.

Aww. I don't know. I really thought that Savage

was going to harm Megatron and free the captive

Maximals at the end. But then, you know, he just

died. Well, no. No, wait a minute here. He did

free them. Because he kept firing on the Megatron

spark and he hit part of Megatron's head. And

it - It freed them from being spark extracted.

It didn't free them, no. I think at the very

best he may have distracted them. What happened

is the lamest thing in the world happened, and

that was Nightscream was so distraught at Savage

dying that he... That's what frees them. That's

what it's like. Wait a minute now. I could see

this uber powerful dragon who everywhere he goes

Levels entire city blocks with his fire breath

I could see him causing damage to Megatron and

causing everyone to you know Get be free and

their sparks go back in their bodies But you've

got night scream with his stupid freaking sonic

attack is gonna disrupt Megatron to the point

where they think straight Alright, alright, alright,

hold on, hold on, Nightscream aside, okay, Nightscream

character aside, a sonic blast from anybody,

any kind of sonic wave, especially that powerful,

regardless of who it's coming from, would distract

anybody. I mean, just look at, the only, and

I hate to do this because DC fans are gonna kill

me for this, Nightscream is basically an emo

black canary for Beast Machines. He basically

has the canary cry. Except without the Mighty

Fine Ass. True. Night Scream's not gonna look

good even if you put him in the fishnets. No.

We're not playing Drag Queen Transformers, thank

you very much. And my final note was, ooh, free

-floating Megatron Spark. I wonder what kind

of robot body he's gonna have next, which...

that is most definitely going to if not it's

if not going to be official art for next episode

it's going to be alternate art which is a very

special art piece well yeah what bothers me though

is they're like all right we won again yeah and

it's like three more episodes yeah three more

episodes of us just standing around with really

bad writing because there's no running, there's

no via cons, there's just ignorant bliss until

Megatron turns out to be not so dead. Yes. I'm

sick of this happening. So Megatron, what do

you got? Well, not entirely thrilled. I mean,

I didn't like Savage Noble to begin with. But

I'm not entirely thrilled with the way they killed

him, although they did give him kind of a Dino

body heroic, uh, send off. What is it with you

people in adding Y to Transformers words? First,

you got... I got that from Michael. Yeah. It's

either Y or L -Y. Yeah, it's like... Well, he

started out with auto -botly and then it's just

kind of gone from there. Yeah. It could be an

adjective, sure. Dino -botly. But, um... Dino

-botly, yeah. But, um... I mean, at least Dino

-bot freed people though. I mean, well, and that's

what he noble did. He noble at best cause he

lashed out. Yeah, exactly. Like the wild beast

he is. Well, he did. He freed Nightscream. Oh

dear. And then they caught him between his two

tails. Well, yeah. OK, yeah, I'll buy that. So

he freed Nightscream just before he got killed.

And then Nightscream saved everybody, which was

just ass backward right there. And then at the

end, they're like, oh. Poor Noble, he was a good

guy and he freed us all. And it's like, no he

didn't. He got killed before he had a chance

to free you all. Which, again, ass backward.

Yeah, they should have just had him do it and

then had Night Scream go like, oh shit, they

killed my dog after he saved everyone instead

of just Night Scream. And then have Night Scream

do what he did. Exactly. Well, no, Night Scream

shouldn't have done what he did at all. He should

have just been really, really quiet and cried

like an emo kid. Cry, emo boy. Spider bat rape,

oh my god. Wow. Where bats rape spiders. There

was a dog. And a big orange glowy thing that

ate things. I believe a big orange glowy thing

can fly. It's called an orange with an LED light.

I don't really get this because we never have,

I don't think we ever saw Pterosaur or Scorponok

or hell even Waspinator, well we kind of see

Waspinator's spark but we never really see any

of the other transformer sparks other than the

Maximals and Megatron at the end of Beast Wars

or at the end of whatever the hell the episode

was where he merged with G1 Megatron. Yeah. So

we see that there, that Megatron Spark is red

in that episode, and then it's kind of like an

orangish color in this. What did you think of

Free Floating Spark Megatron, Megatron? Oh, I

likey. I like that giant orange orb. It was so

cool. Like, just looking at it, it's... You could

tell that this was no ordinary... Spark. Oh,

yeah Whereas like optimus primal and in Beast

Wars had a green one and then Megatron I don't

believe he had orange in Beast Wars. I believe

it was like red Yeah, it was red and I like that

they even though they changed it to like orange

You can tell this is like not just an ordinary

spark. This is like some Above average, you know

much higher level of a spark, you know Yeah,

well, well the thing is the the animators made

the spark emote because there are certain parts

like on the bottom and on the top of it where

there are clearly lines drawn to show different

parts of the actual spheroid itself that it actually

you know it not pulsates and You can see that

it clearly has Megatron emotions whereas like

all the other sparks are just like blue bubble

bath bubbles. Well, they're like blue bubbles

with a little bit of orange surrounding the little

eggs in the middle. Wow, I was actually gonna

make a... A little turtleneck eggs in the middle.

I was gonna read the reference, but okay. Yeah,

but yeah. So, it was cool to see Megatron like

that instead of this weakling. Yes, and the only

time we ever get Comedy and Beast Machines is

in Spark of Darkness, which is next episode for

TBU. Yes, I have plenty of notes on that one.

Yeah! We're not going to give it away yet because

we want it to be a surprise to people, but wow,

that's awesome. Anything else, Steve? I Think

it's funny how they're all like, oh poor savage

noble even though they all hated him Yeah, you

know, they're all like oh And you know night

screams, you know that actually gave a shit.

Yeah primals like indifferent about it But everybody

else is like we should have killed the beast

a long time ago That's kind of rough. I mean

that's kind of how they acted though Yeah, well,

you know, it's one of those things where it's

like we're gonna put him in stasis lock for his

own good but he doesn't have a spark yeah oh

yeah i guess you'd have to chain him to a fence

is there a fence strong enough to carry him considering

the fact he took down all the vehicons and took

megatron to actually kick his ass you could chain

him to the big giant head you won't go anywhere

then if this is torture chain me to the wall

So Michael, what do you got for the final part

of spark or Just horribly inappropriate things

It's not a surprise on this show, I mean we've

got testicles poop and eating of poop And I will

name them off in turn We've got a cheetor who

kind of you know to get Optimus primal's attention.

He kind of goes And he kind of nods his head

over toward Noble, saying, hey, what about him,

right? I don't know what it was that made me

think of that. I was like, turn your head and

cough, Cheetor. He's like, oh, your hands are

cold. Yeah, so testicles. Oh, and then poop.

uh... in uh... at least once you've got uh...

night scream telling noble to scat yes gets another

word for poop and then you've got eating not

so much eating of poop it just kind of ties in

nicely with scat megatron spark which is kind

of reaching out and grabbing other sparks and

eating them You know just kind of like come here

you Yummy It was weird too because you could

kind of see all the little All the sparks that

he'd eaten Were kind of being absorbed into the

center and they were kind of rotating around

in a circle almost yeah Inside of him which was

kind of neat to see it was hard to see but I

mean if you're looking closely you could still

see it His spark is full Yeah, it's a variation

on your my pants are full I wasn't thinking that

which leads us right back to scat. Yeah And then

you know lastly, where do you store the collective

consciousness of an entire planet? in a really

big fishbowl Yeah I thought it was funny cuz

they're all looking down at this giant thing

coming out of the ground and there's always sparks

on it and I'm like, it's a giant fishbowl. Kind

of neat. But yeah, that's all I got. I didn't

have a whole lot here. You know, I think mostly

because there's just a lot of action going on.

Yeah, and that's the thing about this series.

It's one of the reasons, like, I'm actually surprised.

Like, when I was watching a couple of the other

episodes and I'm like, oh. We're already done

with disc three. Wait, there's only four discs

to this DVD set, so we're coming up on the end

fairly fast, and it's like, holy crap. It's kind

of like I've been saying throughout a lot of

Beast Unleashed's lifespan that this podcast

has gone really fast. It just has. Well, somebody

decided to switch to weekly format, so... Well,

hey now. Going a lot faster than we thought we

would. It's the accelerated version. I went over

to DEI and grabbed the accelerator inator. Oh

crap. So yeah, overall I really enjoyed this

when I first watched it. Of course, I'm gonna

have to go back and watch it again, but I mean,

really, this three -part was fairly good. First

of all, you got an introduction of two new, very

sinister characters, even though we've never

seen them ever before in Transformers Mythos.

And they do give them a backstory. Thrustinator

kind of goes away for a while. Of course, he

comes back at the end. Just honestly, the music

just really, really, really impressed me, like

I was saying. I think we're gonna go to some

quotes and then we'll come back with the outro.

We'll return to the Beast Unleashed podcast after

this. Here's quote number one. Here's quote number

two. Six against one. No one can win against

those odds. Yes, you certainly raise a valid

point. I will brook no failure, not for anyone,

not for any reason. Optimus and his Maximals

continue to fester like a disease. There must

be how to beg it to my work is complete. A task

which is clearly beyond your capacity. No little

better than Tango or Jetstorm. You never should

have used Sparks from Optimus' pals. Least they

didn't turn on you like they did. End quote number

three. All new, all different, and dumber than

ever. Why would Megatron use Sparks with such

limited intelligence? Easy to control. This podcast

is released biweekly by the folks over at GeekCastRadio

.com and I want you to listen to it because it's

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review podcast. If you don't listen to it, I

will set my vehicles to remove your sparks. Before

we close the show I forgot to mention something

when we were talking about in the intro when

Godspeed rode in He was actually kind enough

to send me a war for Cybertron Megatron. So thank

you very much. Godspeed. This is very very awesome

and Silence yes, thank you for him. Yeah, thanks

for sending him free stuff. I'm waiting for mine.

Oh Steve you can't really complain Since you

won a war for Cybertron, Megatron, and Radio

Free Cybertron's contest, so you'll get one eventually.

So I mean, you know, you really shouldn't be

complaining. The only one that really has the

right to complain is Michael the Complainer Wilson.

And I'm going to complain about it, regardless.

Ain't that the truth? That's just how it works.

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Rebirth. Oh, I mean Seeds of the Future. For

now, I am TFG1Mike with... A swift kick in your

ass. And Michael Wilson. Megatron, close the

show. I told you I would give you a swift kick

in the ass for the Unicron comment. It's not

my fault that your giant Megatron head is a floating

tribute to Unicron. It's not a tribute. I just

have a big head. Hide your kids. Hide your wife.

Hide your kids and hide your wife. Wow. It's

a good thing your wife, Megatron. It's a good

thing Mrs. Megatron doesn't listen to this show.

So send us off with something witty, Megatron.

That's not funny. Oh wow. You know what? I bet

I could so kick Megatron's ass in Monopoly. I

do own the game, dumbass! It's kind of easy to

win all the property. Oh god, that's so horrible.

I got that all wrong. No, when I mentioned Monopoly,

I was hoping that you could say... Say... Do

not ask O. Do not collect $200. I will collect

your spark, however. It is trade in value, Dad.

Well, your life.

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