Transformers War for Cybertron Earthrise Discussion

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I'm your host, Steve Megatron Phillips, and joining

me in this adventure into All Things Transformers

is TFG1 Mike. Hello. Hello. Hello. Yes. This

is actually going to be our last episode of 2020.

You know, because for some reason we just, we

can't get off the Transformer train. Uh -huh.

You know what? Next year is going to be a lot

of Star Wars. I haven't told you this, but...

Studio is gonna have a lot of Star Wars next

year because I have a plan. Mando? Sort of, but

not really. Plus all the other Star Wars stuff.

Oh, you have no idea. I'll tell you all fair.

Okay. I'm scared already. As you should be. I

have my computer back. I can actually do shit

again. Yeah, you're scary when you have your

computer. I'm not afraid of you when you don't.

Anyways. So this episode of All Things Transformers,

we're going to touch on Transformers Earthrise.

It's not going to be a full -blown review because

I'm waiting for Optimus Solo and Mike to see

it first. I have, and this is recorded on December

28th, I have heard, well, I was on the AllSpark

forum and I was like, you know, it's on Netflix.

I can get screeners. And on Allspark's Discord

page, they were like, we're watching and we're

going to do a spoiler, blah, blah, blah. The

only thing they told us not to spoil is the ending

of episode six, which is literally the last like

10 to 15 seconds. I had no such. Notice, but

I think it's because they're spoiling it on the

28th, whereas I. Will not be. This is being released

after the 20th, after the 30th, and so therefore

it can be spoiled. This is Transformers War for

Cybertron Earthrise. The second chapter of the

War for Cybertron trilogy will be released December

30th, 2020 on Netflix. By the time you hear this.

With that being said, so I'll be covering some

of that. I'll be covering some of the Transformers

Headmasters English dub. And no, it's not professional.

It's fan dub because they're actually back in

action, which I'm excited about. And then, of

course, some other Transformery news, whether

it be comics or other aspects. So That being

said, what do we want to tackle first, Mike?

I think we need to get the non -spoiler teaser

thing out of the way with Transformers War for

Cybertron Earthrise, so... Okay. Spoilers. Let

me ask you this before you get into your overall

opinions of it. Did the promotional the screener

whatever you want to call it Did it include all

six episodes or did it include like episode four

and episode two like the Animaniacs thing? Well,

unlike Hulu When Netflix gives you a screener

they give you the screener You actually get to

see the entire season Cool because when I saw

lost in space when that came out Netflix, let

me watch the whole thing the only The only difference

between Hulu and Netflix is Netflix puts the

date you accessed it, the time and your email

address stamped across the top. Right. Should

you screen cap these? Yes. They will know it's

you. Yes, you do that. So same thing for anybody

that decides to rip the video. There are ways

to do this. Yeah. And It should not be done,

because for one, if you're already paying for

Netflix anyway, you wait two days, you get it

for free. And that's the thing, like you've offered

this to me, you know, well, you don't get it

for free. You're still paying for it. But you've

offered this to me before in the past because

you wanted to jump the gun, not just necessarily

jump the gun, but you wanted to be on the ball

with maybe getting out an earlier view of something.

And I'm like, No, that means I have to log out

of my account, log into this other account. I'm

like, yeah, I'll just wait and do a full spoiler

review after the fact. Yeah. But that being said,

like I, I enjoy getting the screeners and I saw,

like I said, all spark had it. And I was like,

you know, I can get this too. And so, and so

like they were dropping, like they still have

like the guy that was doing it and had access

has only seen the first episode out of it all

so far. And I was like. I'm like I It's not telling

me anything that I'm not gonna know from episode

one Because he was kind of keeping it minor non

-spoilery wisdom spoilers And then because you

get a spoiler tag that you can use in discord.

So anyways that all aside It's They make out

the trailer to be what it's not in a lot of ways.

I expected it to be a little bit different than

where it went They kind of open on the precipice

of, you know, how everything was left off in

the last season, you know, the absence of the

All Spark, the dire circumstances, you know,

Megatron's trying to figure out how to escape

the dying world where. You know they don't have

factions anymore for the most part because you

know you have a leader one that's running the

autobots now along with jetfire and a multitude

of others left behind but for the most part i

mean they're they're trying to they have an audience

with megatron at one point you come to find out

that megatron doesn't exactly want to do what's

going down. His hand has been forced by shockwave

much like the first episode. Are the first season

and. Shockwave is the actual megalomania guy

here in this season, kind of pulling the strings

with Megatron, and Megatron has to remind him,

you know, look, I'm in charge. But there's really

no other way of going about it, because Shockwave

kind of forces Megatron's hand to get Project

Nemesis going. So what it amounts to is they

have to harvest, in a way, what Beast Machines

Megatron did. Gotcha. They have to harvest. And

that's what's being used to power the nemesis.

And because there's not enough energon on Cybertron,

including the arc is running out. They do still

have the annoying slow speech. In a lot of ways,

their Galvatron does. talk faster than Megatron

and has a slight difference and it's the same

actor doing both. So it's fun hearing him play

off of themself. Still not a fan of Soundwave's

voice. They have a brand new intro for this season

and I actually rather like it. They have some

communication stuff with holograms on arms and

it looks actually really cool. Almost reminiscent

of the High Moon Studios graphics. Very cool

very cool pacing seems a little bit better You

get to see a junkie on ship like the twirly type

ship at one point The one of my dislikes was

the copies of character bodies that they use

for the third faction that kind of shows up The

mercenary faction which is led by double dealer.

They did something pretty interesting. They they

have a nebulon space bridge And nebulon like

nebulose type thing kind of teased much earlier

and you get to meet scorponok And his giant form

he's not a headmaster, but he's definitely a

dysfunctional Robot that has In a lot of ways

a lot of dysfunction because a lot of the problems

that happen in the Transformers in this particular

series are caused by the Quintessence. And apparently

Scorponok is one of the only one of his race

remaining of the Scorponoks. Oh, interesting.

Which is kind of cool. I don't remember, was

RC in season one? RC? Yes. Don't think she was

for a half of a second. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways,

she's predominantly in this and she's on the

arc cool Which makes no sense when you think

of Steve season one and two Well, I mean It is

what it is. I don't care She could be in stasis

for all we know So anyways, we get to see a flashback

with alpha try on with the matrix and showing,

you know Magnus prime and Megatron all being

more or less the ones that Alpha Trion's like,

you three will reunite, Cybertron, blah, blah,

blah. Well, yeah, obviously didn't happen. You

get to see Skylinks and Alpha Trion kind of duking

it out for a while and Alpha Trion banished Skylinks

to the dead zone. Wow. Because he wanted the

Matrix. Alright, so he gets to see what real

power is. They have a lot of cool portal jumps

and dimension jumps in this Sky links kind of

is there to mentor prime and showing him, you

know, this is the path you need to take in order

to not become Nemesis prime and you know, you

will die at some point pass the matrix onto another

and More or less shows, you know, this is how

it's going down. You know, if you follow your

path, you're going to die whereas You know, Galvatron

is there showing Megatron. Look, this is where

your path will take you if you don't kill Prime

now. Right. So and then you do I don't know if

they showed in the teaser Unicron. It briefly

in the in the teaser trailer, because people

have images have had images of him all over the

Internet since that last teaser trailer came

out. He's literally in for five seconds long

enough to say. um you know something about your

treachery well more or less he does like a you

know your treachery type thing um uh comment

um all i can think of is when um witness your

dismemberment yeah no not that when uh when john

noble played him in prime what is this i sense

Taint of Primus? That was hilarious. That was

horrible writing. No, that was great writing.

I love that line. It was great. Oh, it's a terrible

line though. Oh, I love that line. Primus is

sick. Yeah, so anyways, it kind of shows you

get to see Galvatron materialize in the way that

he was created in the movie, the 86 movie. He

materializes to Megatron that way, and he also

is taken out by Unicron that way. Well, he's

being pulled back to his own dimension. He's

like, it's only a matter of time before my master

pulls me back. But they do tease the Golden Disk.

Galvatron does that before he is whipped away,

shows Megatron that. So it basically leads to

how Beast Wars Megatron finds Earth in the first

place. Sweet. What's funny is when they come

out of this dead zone portal, they appear by

Earth. Oh, wow. And the mercenaries are the ones

that come out of there after. And that's why

the ships are both damaged to the point that

they crash is because that ship is blown up.

There's the one Quintesson, though, is kind of

interesting that he You remember the line from

the first movie, give me your face. Mm -hmm.

Yeah, he cuts all of the other heads off. Oi.

Because all five of them are not able to come

to a consensus of what to do with the Autobots.

Oh, no. And so the one cuts off the only like

stable face, like the one crazy one that's like

evil looking with the red. And cuts all the other

faces off and so they become the only face so

they're like we are consensus you know so they're

they're kind of trying to destroy the autobots

and decepticons so. But yeah one of the one of

the cool things is shockwave can cloak when he's

fighting Alita one. Albeit temporarily and then

they end the season with. Dinobot watching the

Ark in the Nemesis crash land on the planet.

And you know that because he comes out of the

woods and his eye changes to a picture of him

zooming in on the Ark. And then it fades out.

There's no voices or anything for the Beast Cast

or anything. But yeah, I mean, graphically, it

was CG without calling back to the actual Beast

Wars animation. Right, so I look forward to seeing

what they do visually with the beast cast and

using modern CGI because I feel like They'll

get a little bit more of that realism in there

a little bit more of that detailing and information

that they were unable at that time in the 90s

I just hope that they don't make it like super

wonky looking which I doubt they will be Because

I mean looking at the rest of the Autobots and

Decepticons. They look pretty much how they should,

like blocky. I think that they'll do them justice

visually. It's the vocals that I worry about,

but I think visually, I think we're going to

be all right. Cool. Awesome. Yeah, that's kind

of my spoilery filled. Obviously, there are things

I left out. I'm just going off a bullet point,

but it'll be interesting to converse once the

two of you have seen it and kind of go through

it. Um, definitely, definitely an improvement

over the first half or the first part of the

trilogy, I would say, um, in a lot of ways. Um,

there were some slow elements in it too, but

I, I feel like that they got through a lot more,

uh, jumping around between different storylines

that it kept it going enough that you weren't

going, okay, is this done yet? Right, right.

Yeah. Um, I, I disliked the Cybertron side once

they'd all left the planet though. It wasn't

my favorite part at all. I was kind of like the

part with Alita and Shockwave. I was kind of

like, eh. But the rest of it, I was kind of involved

with caring about. So, but yeah, that aside.

Very cool. Very cool. So we had mentioned that

we also have some news things and I remembered,

hey, I got an email the other day. So I'm on

IDW's press list. And I get emails for the regular

weekly. Oh, these previews are now on the server.

I also get these solicitations are now on the

server. I have the, what they're calling this,

um, I think it's January. So it came out in January.

It's essentially the March, 2021 solicitations.

And I'm only obviously going to. talk about the

transformers one because hello we're not a turtles

or whatever other podcast at least not this one

anyway so transformers in i believe it's march

i just want to make sure yes march 2021 so these

books will be out in march of 2021 transformers

number 29 written by brian ruckley art done by

anna malcova war world Titans. Sentinel Prime

has a secret. Something that could change the

fate of Cybertron. Something that Megatron wants.

It's a battle for control of the Forge as the

Autobots and the Decepticons come face -to -face

in battle for the first time. And then Steve's

favorite. Transformers Beast Wars number two.

Written by Eric Burnham. Art and colors done

by Josh Bircham. Celebrating 25 years of Beast

Wars, the Maximals led by Optimus Primal and

the Predacons led by Megatron have crashed on

a strange new world and they are not alone. To

survive the planet, much less each other, they'll

have to explore their surroundings and their

new bestial alt modes in search of an advantage.

The Beast Wars begin here. And then we also have

Transformers Escape. This is the new five -issue

mini -series. This is for issue number four of

that series written by Brian Ruckley. Art and

colors done by Beth McGuire Smith. As Wheeljack

Hound and the others lead the evacuation efforts,

they learn that one of their allies has secrets

of their own that could ruin the whole escape

plan. Meanwhile... Decepticons search for the

Renegade Insecticons, but who's really hunting

who? Hmm. Hmm. So yeah, those books will be out

in comic stores and online digitally in March

of 2021. I'm not sure what I think about the

Escape once. It's a yeah, it's a it's an IDW

miniseries. Sometimes their miniseries are good.

Sometimes they're not. I'm excited because I'm

interested to see what the story is. I haven't

actually kept up with all of the the solicits

on that, but it's obviously something we'll cover

at some point, whether it's you and I or me and

somebody else. True, true. What other news items

do you have, sir? Well, you sent me a video earlier.

Yes. Our other good buddy, video reviewer buddy,

Pia, Pia is the guy that back, I think it was

2009, 2010, he was coming from where he lives

to Kentucky to visit other family members and

I had won his YouTube contest or whatever and

I won basically a free Transformers animated

Rodimus figure from him and he delivered it to

me in person. Nice. If you go back to, I think

it's GCR. Is it GCR or Toycast? It's a bunch

of them. He's been on a bunch of them, but mainly

I had originally had him on, I think it's GCR.

Yeah, it's GCR episode 17 where he and Optibotamus

and I talk about YouTube way back when. I might

have to actually fix that audio file so we could

actually post it in the show notes or whatever

else, but essentially he's one of the... big

transformers reviewers on YouTube and I had not

seen if OptiBottomist had done a Megatron review

yet but his showed up and I'm like oh cool I'll

watch this and I'm like well it's Megatron I

gotta send it to Steve cuz you know he's Megatron

yeah I I was impressed yeah that face man that

that that head sculpt is amazing Oh yeah, it's

on par with the masterpiece, the head sculpt.

The legs and some of the... I was rather surprised

by the fact that the joints and the bottom of

the foot was just unpainted or bone color. It

was just weird. But yeah, I was definitely down

for it. It just cemented the... The interest

Cool, so yeah, and obviously I'm looking forward

to the the Beast Wars comic Obviously, yes. Yes

gonna be interesting and fun and cool and all

that good stuff in more ways than one Yep So

yeah, there's there's that I think it's funny

that they're still doing the Transformers 84.

Oh, that didn't end yet? No, they're still doing

it. Really? Yeah, because in February, they're

having 84 legends and rumors. It's a 100 page

issue. Expensive. It's representing the classic

stories that inspired the series. Um, so obviously

it's got Marvel's number one, uh, man of iron

UK, uh, number nine through 12, which that was

in the, the American one too, just later on.

Um, and then the, uh, the 84 number zero one

shot. Right. So is it just a reprint or is it

new stuff? I think it's a, um, companion book

that kind of explains it. I think it's, um, does

it say some events, uh, Others remain shrouded

in mystery only resurfacing as snippets of the

real story their legends and rumors the perfect

companion book to the secrets and lies miniseries

Representing the classic stories and inspired

the series So it sounds like it's showing what

drove them into it Okay, so transformers 84 secrets

and lies was a four -issue miniseries Okay, and

they have that as a collected edition. I'm looking

at it here in Comixology and it's a pre -order

When's that gonna be released? So if you want

to get the the collected edition of secret lies

with all the issues It'll be 14 bucks on Comixology

and it releases January 27th of 2021 well, they

use the art on the cover of the of the 84 like

issue one type style, right? Yeah And what you're

talking about is Transformers 84, Legends and

Rumors, 100 page giant. That is $8. It is also

coming out January 27th of 2021. I'm more interested

in the Beast Wars. I know you are. Megatron.

Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, I have I have plans for you.

I await them off air. Depending on what he looks

like and what he says, you could actually essentially

do a comic reading of Megatron. And Waspinator.

All true. As long as Waspinator's there, I assume

he would be. He will be. Yeah. But yeah, I would

definitely do it. Very cool, very cool. So, yeah.

And then they have War World, which looks interesting.

Is that what I just mentioned? Is that the comic

thing or is that something else? It's a comic

thing, yeah. But it's part of the ongoing, though.

Yeah, that's what I just mentioned. Issue 29.

Well, it starts at like 20... Five or twenty

six, right? It probably does Yeah, it starts

at issue 25. Yeah But yeah, and then Yeah, and

then the because it's 25 years of these doors

next year, you know, and obviously It's funny

that it corresponds with Oh, my panel. Yes, your

panel at Iacon Online. Yes, which I'm looking

forward to. I've got to get some information

put together, but I know what I'm going to do

and visually in the PowerPoint to make it look

on point. So it's funny because they mentioned

on Tformers the concept designs for some of the

old McDonald's toys. We've got the actual figures,

the kingdom, the masterpiece that is slowly coming

out, and some of the generation stuff. There's

some stuff that was shown in the McDonald's presentation

binder. Did you know that the Maximals led by

Optimus Primal? They were known as the Cyber

Beasts, and Optimus Prime was their leader. Ooh,

strange. It says, additionally to other alternative

McDonald's promotions for being considered, the

creature auto rollers and vehicle auto rollers.

And it sounds like that there's still some stuff

that's coming from Tformers on it. And they were

going to have a Megatron that turned to a Gator.

Buzzsaw which was Ended up being Torca the the

turtle that transformed And then they had You

know Scorpion Scorpanoc Optimus Prime was the

bat Optimus Primal Prowl was going to be a type

of It looks like almost like a baboon or a cat

of some kind like it doesn't really show They

were gonna have a lion character, which looks

like Leo convoy, which was another Optimus Prime

consideration And in the the differences of some

of them were the the auto rollers was it was

they would feature wheels underneath and Then

they would gradually transform into robots, which

was some of the stuff What's funny is cheetor

looks like it was going to be prowl to some degree,

which is funny to me. And then the vehicle auto

rollers are going to have a prowl that looked

like these vehicle auto rollers look atrocious.

And then they were going to have, because they

had different levels of age recommendations they

had. PVC toys which feature the heads of characters

in an untransformed state and so when they flip

it up Flip it over like stand it up Basically

the head cracks in half so you'd have like an

optimus prime that would crack in half and he'd

be in his robot form They had a a sea turtle

that they were going to do as Megatron and one

of the renditions which looks absolutely ridiculous

they were gonna have a man array that turned

to Optimus Prime they were gonna have dragonfly

to Megatron they were just like hyper focusing

on Megatron and in Optimus but lizard to iguanas

which that they actually made a toy of panther

that's what the animal was to prowl then they

had of course the auto rollers which would basically

the same thing. I'm scrolling down to see if

I can see anything else. It looks like all of

them, but it's kind of interesting to see the

ones that they went with over the ones that they

didn't. I don't know. It's just really interesting

to see the designs that almost happened as of

a McDonald's thing. Right, right, but but it

does explain the original two pack of the bat

primal and gator Megatron Very cool. Yeah, that

is awesome that happened before, you know Obviously

none of these were featured and used for the

TV series which thankful on that You know and

some of them appeared later speech towards toys

under different names or same names or you know

similar product line like Scorpion ock and stuff

like that, but Yeah, it's it's just it's weird

seeing some of it Yeah. So the other thing that

I was going to bring up is the Transformers Headmasters.

And for some, some may not remember Headmasters

all that much, even though, you know, I mean,

it's basically the Japanese continuation, season

four of G1, and they've never ported it over.

Sadly enough. Most of you that have heard my

story know how I got involved in podcasting was

because of TFCOG and the Transformers Headmasters

fan dub, which I started in 2005 and it's still

going. We still have not broken episode 10 yet

because it's gone under three different production

groups with a couple of the same people that

were involved in all of them. But they started

2005. I became Scourge when they then I was able

to perfectly replicate the G1 voice actor, which

I just I love the fact that I can do it. It was

from the rebirth three parter though that I do

it. Oh, very cool. And I can do his voice like

spot on. And the fun part is, you know i'd auditioned

for and i was looking back at my auditions because

for some reason i still have all my audio files

um from over the years because we don't get rid

of anything it's like you know and don't get

me wrong i appreciate all the advice but when

i didn't have my computer for a year because

it was in storage people are like well just you

know Use your phone and edit that way and do

this and do that. But yes, but I have 11 years

worth of, I don't want to have to go back and

grab one shelf stand one shelf. I don't want

to have to go back and grab that again when I

have it in a folder in a storage unit in Illinois.

So again, so thankful that I have my computer

back and I can actually do the stuff that I need

to do the way I need to do it. So yes, we keep

stuff fully. 12 years of audio at this point,

but yeah, anyway, sorry, so I'll give you the

the the video teaser with the information for

for the episode post So anyways the guy that's

running it now, it's prime productions You know

unofficial Transformers Fandub So they have come

to this point now where it's been long enough

Because I was looking, I was like, when was the

last episode? Like, I honestly could not remember

the last time I recorded one for the for the

Headmasters project. And I was like, OK, I have

my files for episode seven, which I recorded

in 2011. I have my files that I did for. Let's

see when were these recorded. OK. Cause I had,

I had some redos for episode eight. I was looking

and the last time I recorded was February of

2012. Wow. That was the last time an episode

came out. Wow. And I mean, I get it. Life hits

everybody. It's, it's, it's the same reason the

dark glass projects never had the light of day.

Like I'm trying to work on that on my own, but

it's, it's again, it's one of those, um, one

of those things that They don't make a diff,

you know, make it easy on you. Um, so, uh, so

anyways, I few years later, I think, um, uh,

shout factory was doing a, the head masters release

on DVD and we did a redub of episode three, which

was probably the strongest with the old cast

and new cast kind of. mixed in there. And they

were like, okay, we can't get half of these actors

anymore, because either A, they're professional

now, or B, they just aren't available. So I ended

up playing the roles of Chromedome, Daniel, I

think, Cup, Scourge, Weird Wolf, among some others,

and I think Skullgrin for that redub. And that

was fun. And I think that was the last time that

I ever did anything with the project because

they haven't had any. Well, I was excited because

the guy that's been running it and I met him

at TFCon back in 2012, which was awesome. And

they're working on episode nine and 10 simultaneously.

And so they finally got around to it and they're

like, yeah, so. Currently, we're casting for

characters appearing in the Transformers Headmasters

Fandub Beyond Episode 9, which is where we are

at production of the series. We have several

episodes worth of scripts ready to be recording

as soon as editions are completed. This is a

long -term production. All finalists will be

expected to commit long -term to their characters

and remain in contact for future episodes that

are produced. Microphone quality is an important

factor. Um, and casting, we may also request

alternate takes in a closed audition and to test

your commitment to the role. Um, so yeah, and

then they have a deadline of January 24th, um,

2021 at 1159 Pacific standard time. So this round

was a high amount of Decepticons. Um, which I

mean, I've already got squirted in the bag. I

he's mine no matter what. Unless something happened

to me. Don't jinx yourself. Yeah, I know. Anyways,

back when I originally was trying for Scourge,

I auditioned for, because some of these names

are going to pop up again, I auditioned for Frenzy,

Goldbug, Onslaught, Rodimus, Rumble, Scrapper,

and Ramhorn. What's funny about this is, granted,

my voice is back then sucked. Um, cause I listened

to the original clip and I'm like, yeah, that's

not going to do it. Um, not only was the audio

quality bad cause of my, I had that desk microphone,

not, not the yeti. Um, but, uh, I was like, I've

gotten so much better since 2005, 2007, 2008.

So, uh, so anyways, the Decepticons they're,

they're going for is mind wipe. which they're

still looking for a Bela Lugosi voice like simple

sounding voice so I did my own impression of

it so I tried that they got weird wolf open for

interpretation I think I tried that one I tried

my own skull cruncher my own onslaught brawl

I think I skipped blast off I know he's gonna

establish voice Astro Train, they were looking

for like a Vzarkon from the original Voltron

type series. Jack Angel, because Jack Angel played

Astro Train. So they're looking for that voice

type of thing. And I was like, I don't think

I can do that. But I probably will still try

it anyway. And then the worst that'll happen

is they'll hate it and they'll move on because

Galvatron sounds nothing like Frank Walker's

Galvatron. They kind of kept him more with the

Nimoy sound for the Headmasters, which honestly,

I like more. They have dead end. I don't think

I went for him either. I did audition for rumble

And I think I did Frank's voice the best I could

anyway, and so I'm hoping I get that I auditioned

for dive bomb tantrum headstrong and razor claw

I auditioned for hot spot defense or silver bolt

and superior The funny thing is Defensor, I have

it spot on with the original voice actor. Cool.

Because they told me as much. And then they have

a couple of the train bots, like the bullet train

bots, like Suikin and Midnight Express and some

of the robot guards. So anyways, that's all they

have for right now. They're going to have another

audition with the Autobots later on that aren't

in this, but I think this is just to get them

through episode nine. But I thought that this

was pretty cool. I was like, oh, so I can dip

my hand back in the Transformers world. Do some

voices. So I'm hoping I get some of them. I know

that I impressed them to some degree. So if I

even get one, I'll be ecstatic. If I get more

than that, I'll be just like super ecstatic,

even though it may take like a couple of years

for them to come out. I'm still available for

Beast Wars Megatron. Do you hear me? Do you hear

me, F .J. DeSanto? Do you hear me, Rooster Teeth

and Netflix? Beast Wars Megatron. I think what

you really need to be doing is Beast Wars Megatron.

Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Can

you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Well, as

a matter of fact, I can. Yes. Yeah. So anyways,

they need to do that. They need to get me for

that and they need to get Chris McFeely for DinoBot

because honestly, he's spot on if they're not

going to go for Union. Although, I'm hoping that

they break for that for the second part. They

really do. I know they won't, but I wish they

would. It is what it is I mean, you know, you

know what the way I before I even found that

out that it was non -union actors versus union

actors I Was still fine with what? And Jason

are doing with optimist and optimist No, no,

no, no, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'm saying

like the beast for the beast cast I know yeah

that that's where I feel like it's gonna fall

apart more So speaking of the year that was 2020

I figured since this is our last episode since

we are releasing it on New Year's Eve for 2020

I figured we would go back through the year and

see how many episodes we actually did we started

2020 in January with episode 168 where we talked

about expensive transformers the 90s to 2020

We then went to. Cyberverse season one and two

we will eventually get to cyberverse season three

if it ever shows up on netflix i know the series

is on netflix but i'm just waiting for the rest

of it show up. Which is funny cuz has barely

basically treated it like the. you know, redhead

stepchild of the franchise, even though they

could have done great things with it. They just

kind of treated it like, eh, it's just a crappy

Netflix or YouTube show. Yeah. We talked about

the new Transformers TV that is. We did our Siege

full -on spoiler review. We did the Anniversaries

episode. We did, where does Hasbro get those

wonderful toys? Two Origins episodes this year,

my good friends Jonathan and Maggie Schaefer

-Hames, along with our buddy DJ Valentine. We

started the new IDW Transformers universe. And

now we're, you know, talking about Earthrise

and Kingdom and whatever. So yeah, I mean, from

168 to 180, that's not bad. Almost 12 episodes

in one year. It's not bad at all. So, absolutely.

2021 is going to be very, very interesting to

see what happens with Transformers, whether it's

Beast Wars, whether it's Generation 1, whether

it's IDW, whether it's whatever. I'm sure Hasbro

has a bunch of things up their sleeve. So it's

going to be really, really interesting. What'll

be what'll be interesting and really nice is

to see how much Beast Wars has an impact on the

franchise this year Yeah, because it's been 25

years since it was out originally. Yep. The funny

part is is Not only because of that We get to

see We get to see whether that makes an a positive

impact on the franchise Because I mean, I mean,

you know, and I'm gonna mention this in my panel

too is Transformers has gotten kind of stale

Like they're they're running the same thing again

and again and again and the only way that it's

actually deviating is with Beast Wars I Think

the thing of it is though Hasbro has to market

to most like back in the 80s They marketed to

us kids there were to my knowledge Not many adults.

I knew in my family and in my friends families

were watching The action cartoons of the 80s.

It was us kids that was watching the action cartoons

of the 80s and 90s So now that it's for almost

40 years later For g one and twenty five years

later for beast wars. You know they have to cater

to not only. The kids like for you specifically

here. More of a child of the nineties but anyway

the point is you were born in eighty six by ninety

six when the stores came out you were ten years

old you were just like us back in the eighties

waiting for. that cartoon to come on the TV,

you were a kid then, you've now grown up, you're

an adult, you're married, you have two children,

and at some point, don't know when, but at some

point I'm sure you'll probably pass the stuff

on to your kids. At the same time, with those

of us, not me obviously, that grew up and went

on to have families and whatever else, well Hasbro,

oh, these are kids. from our kids that were kids

back then so we have to cater to them so we have

to give them something like rescue bots that's

kid -friendly that we have to give them something

like prime that's that's for the for the collector

generation so there's multiple generations of

fans for transformers at this point And Hasbro

has to cater to all of that type of stuff. They

can either cater to one or the other, you know.

But why do they have to compromise is kind of

why what I kind of wonder like. That probably

boils all down to budget. Well, and this is my

thing. We had one line at Beast Wars. Right.

I was, you know, even my brothers were like,

you know, five and eight. And, you know, when

I was 10 and Uh, or five and seven and they loved

it just as much. It's transforming animals, you

know, what's not to like. And, and so I feel

like, I feel like part of Hasbro's problem is

that they feel like they have to segment into

multiple iterations. Now, yes, with this Netflix

series and the machinima stuff. No, that is not

kid friendly at all. Um, But I feel like everything

that's come before it other than prime You could

have shown to your kids and been fine. Yeah,

probably so like again, I kind of wonder What

is Hasbro's big hold up and why they keep going

dipping back into the same pool I get it that

primal and prime and Megatron and um you know

Bumblebee they're their big money makers and

that's that's that's what draws people in but

i think that they've put their eggs too far into

that basket instead of like and i get it like

they introduced slipstream and people just lost

it myself included um but it wasn't for the same

reasons as fans like i'm not a purist of g1 i

just i have no problem with new characters being

it because like i know the beast wars comic they're

gonna have like Basically night scream in there

and um or like on it on optimus. It's on its

tribal It's onyx. I know it says nyx, but it's

it's onyx. They just cut the name But you know

or spitter, you know Some of these other characters

may show up and so like I don't have a problem

with that Honestly, like I didn't have a problem

with the the ascending or the gathering comics

where they had all the People that never actually

showed up in any of the series or that were in

Beast Wars 2 or Beast Wars Neo. So I didn't have

a problem with any of that. It was more so when

they start screwing heavily with the originals.

And honestly, the ascending and the gathering

had nothing to do with the original Beast Cast.

And I was perfectly fine with that, even though

it was continually trying to rip Megatron from

the timeline. and failing miserably. I guess

where I'm coming from is they can afford to take

some chances. If they need to test the theory

out in comics, I feel like that's the more budgetable

avenue other than doing it in a cartoon. Look

at how many Transformers movies we've had live

action that were just utter The first movie was

good because it was the first of its kind. After

that, the Bumblebee movie was good, yes, because

they went more standard with the designs instead

of way out there. Ultimately, they kept it as

close to the chest as they could have and had

it as G1 as possible with the playground they'd

put themselves in. Yeah, you know, I'll say this

I Years ago when animated came out I was not

you guys can go back to the old episodes of this

podcast I hated it too. What the hell but you

know what in retrospect and getting to see the

screen the the complete series from shot Factory

I actually really enjoy animated for what it

is because it tried to tell a story and It used

the G1 characters, but it used them in a way

that it created its own mythology to it, and

I thought that was cool. Same thing with Prime.

No other cartoon series in Transformers history

decided to put Unicron as the center of the planet,

and basically is saying that the entire Earth

is evil because at the core of it is this evil,

evil thing that wants the taint of Primus. What

is this I sense? The taint of Primus? You know,

it's stuff like that where a cartoon comes out

and says, oh, hey, by the way, this is not your

kid's Transformers. This is for you people who

grew up in the 80s who want a more serious, dark

Transformers. And I, you know, there were certain

aspects of Prime that I'm not that big on, but

overall, most of it, I thought it was really,

really good. Yeah, I mean it had a lot in both

directions So I think that we kind of got a little

little bit of everything right and the same thing

I've been saying all year long now when we covered

cyberverse season one and season two Cyberverse

to me even though it was a YouTube 10 -minute

kind of episode thing Cyberverse to me is a cart

as a Transformers cartoon that any generation

can watch kids can watch it adults can watch

it and they can enjoy it for what it is, because

it applies to all of us. Yes, it's not Peter

Cullen. Yes, it's not Frank Walker. I'm actually

glad it's not, because it's somebody different

in there who gets to kind of make their own mark

on the voice, whether they're trying to do a

Peter Cullen impression or not. I just was so

refreshed with Cyberverse when we talked about

it earlier this year. And I'm excited for the

War for Cybertron trilogy. I'm hoping not necessarily

that it goes on to do more, but I'm hoping that

Hasbro continues to go in the direction that

they've gone with Siege and with what Earthrise

is going to be. Cause as we said at the beginning

of this podcast, we're recording this before

the actual second chapter. of the War for Cybertron

trilogy gets released on Netflix, even though

you guys will hear it after the fact that it's

already released. I'm excited, man. I'm really

interested. I'm glad that we're doing the comic

stuff. I can't wait for us to do the Beast Wars

stuff. You know, it's an interesting time to

be a Transformers fan. Totally. Absolutely. All

right, Megatron, get us the hell out of here.

How dare you, Maximal scum. Do you, Dan? Oh bloody

hell. Where's my spark extractor? I will extract

your spark and destroy you. It's hiding in your

bathtub next to your rubber ducky. That's sad

but true. Until next time. Be excellent. Yes.

Anybody home? Do you know who I am? I know what

you are. That is enough. Bring me the ugly one!

Oh, come on! We'll just beg. The future... is

unwritten. Focus your mind. Take us to the Allspark.

I hate to break into the Decepticons, but they've

already won the war. Not yet, they haven't. There's

still some spark left in my soul. I'm so glad

someone on our team can fly! You'll never escape

this dead place. You must stay off the path.

Or a much darker future awaits. I will guide

you to your rightful destiny. You will kill Arta's

pride and take the phatrix for yourself. I don't

trust you. Good. Never trust anyone.