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I am your host, DFJ Mike, and I am joined by

Pecan Court Michael. And we have yet again, for

the second time in this podcast lifespan, killed

Steve Megatron and buried him in Michael's backyard

in a shallow grave. I hope Megatron resurrects

him soon because we're going to have a birthday

party for my boys back there this weekend. I

can't have rotting Steve in my backyard. A rotting

Steve, that's funny as hell. It'd be a shame.

It's like, alright kids, go play. There's a dead

body over there. Don't move on him. Megatron's

going to revive him any day now. Just leave him

where he is. Today we are going to be reviewing

four more episodes from Beast Wars Season 3.

So how have you been, sir? Not awful. Yeah. Yeah,

that's pretty much it. It's the best way to describe

it actually I've been playing with power core

combiners lately in order to Get ready for our

power core combiner review episode tomorrow Yeah,

I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to really break

the mold on that episode and talk about Mighty

Mugs Iron Man mark 6 You're just gonna be quiet.

You're just gonna be quiet and Brian and I will

talk about stuff that matters. I don't. I don't

dislike PowerCore combiners, but at the same

time they're not something that I want. I don't

know, they're pretty awesome. No. Pretty awesome.

No. Someone else has been going on with you.

Um, didn't you take a couple of trips this week

or something? Did you go to some events or something

or other? Uh... Events or something? Well, we

went to touch a truck last weekend. That sounds

so wrong. It does, you know, and the trucks don't

enjoy it. Hahaha! Uh, basically... Stop fucking

my axle! Exactly. Quit touching my horn. Quit

touching my horn And that's basically what it

was because well there's a you know The town

over from us has a thing called touch a truck

every year and they line up trucks And they you

know like a garbage truck or a fire truck or

the semi truck and this year there was a payloader

Which was cool? They had a police car An army

vehicle. I think they got from the local National

Guard. It was it was fun. They had them all lined

up in a parking lot and You show up. It's free

and you bring your kids and let they let the

kids climb on them So we got a bunch of pictures

of Aiden and Gavin in a fire truck and playing

with the nozzles Exactly the fire trucks like

don't touch my nozzle. Oh, I feel so dirty now

I feel so used. But yeah, so we used all the

trucks basically. Climbed up in them and I actually

got to sit up at the payloader which was very

cool for me because payloaders are awesome. It

was fun. We spent a little time there just playing.

Aiden ran into some little friends from preschool

and swim class because they're doing swim class

now for the summer. Yeah, it was nice. I'm surprised

we haven't posted photos of that yet. Yeah, you're

way behind on blogging. Of course, I really can't

say much either. I'm way behind on blogging,

but you do it way more than I do. Yeah, I keep

meaning to, and I just don't... I mean, generally,

when I... You know, we'll do something, we'll

take pictures of it, and the fact that we have

pictures of it means I have to write a blog post,

you know, around the pictures. And we just haven't...

taking a lot of pain besides the touch of truck

i don't think we've done a lot of stuff that

required pictures i think that a while back now

there was some some facebook post you made about

a blog post or something or other and i commented

on there's i don't there's a comment back and

forth between you me and chris or your wife about

Why is it that you have to do all the blogging

and she doesn't blog at all? I mean, it says

michaelandchrissey .com. Yeah. She doesn't blog.

I don't know why, you know, she's just mentioned

before, oh, maybe I should write one of these.

And it's like, yeah, that'd be fine. You know,

I would welcome that. I think that'd be great.

But she never does. She's just not into it. She's

too into that scrapbooking. Yeah, oh. Yeah, she

just signed up for another scrapbooking event.

She's gonna abandon me for three days. Oh, at

least she didn't dismember you this time. Yeah.

That's always fun, too. Oh, boy. I have... Well,

unfortunately, I've had to start paying rent,

which that's $220 a month that I could be using

towards other things, but... uh... so there's

no sir yes so there's that uh... uh... uh...

it's barely ever had to be but i don't know what

still uh... it but i mean i i haven't had to

pay rent over five years because i've more expensive

than free yeah exactly uh... uh... so yeah but

that's good going on i i've actually gotten But

load of toys I got I think since the last record

I got War for Cybertron Optimus mobile be Mighty

Mugs Iron Man mark 6 SDCC 2010 Mighty Mugs prowl

which I talked about in Well, it'll be next next

week of the week and that week after is episode

of toy cast with protoman episode 68 of that

show Just today as we're recording this I got

the challenge at Cybertron set the three pack

of Classics Rodimus and truly hot rod colors

Cyclonus and Galvatron Galvatron's a junk toy

He is Galvatron's a piece of shit I think Galvatron

was originally supposed to be a Voyager And they

shrunk him down to a deluxe. Yeah, I, um... Yeah,

maybe this there'd be more room to twist this

around here or you know Maybe I'd be able to

pull this arm around where it's supposed to be

better But you know because they literally just

kind of microed him It's just not as good a toy

Yeah, I I wish this would have just been a two

-pack with so cyclonus and Rodimus because the

cyclonus in this is way more tftm movie accurate

as far as colors the u .s. version of that the

two of them so right here and not turns into

a toy cast but uh... the darkness of the purple

of the u .s. version and the light lavender color

the henkei version this this one with the three

packages like right in the middle and it looks

like he looked just like in tftm even though

he didn't speak which is unfortunate. And you

know that they had this box set in mind a year

ago, you know, or two years ago when they were

deciding what color scheme to go with the general

release. Oh yeah, this was planned. It's like,

you know, we're going to release this kind of

crappy deco and then a year later, wha -bam,

now we're going to release the good stuff. Yeah.

But I'm glad I've got it. Of course, because

of Rodimus and Cyclonus, I have to get another

one so I can have two more. For alternate mode

purposes. But very, very cool. I also got...

What else did I get? I got my first Puggle former

from Cali. I don't think I've mentioned that

on this show yet. Very, very cool. Nice little

shattered glass Rodimus thing. What else did

I get? Uh, I won a contest, but I'm not gonna

reveal what that is just yet. I'll talk about

that next episode. Because by the next episode,

that will have been hand delivered to me. Hand,

yeah. No, no, no. Hand delivered to me. I'll

tell you off air what that means. Okay. I got

a... I went over to MaddieCollector .com and

I looked at their SDCC stuff, and of course...

As we all know, their MOTUC stuff and all that

sold out. They had that they also, Mattel also

does the Disney Cars tunes things. And they had

this exclusive Tokyo Mater thing and I didn't

think it was light up and sound stuff, but apparently

it is. So I had them in the package, of course

I don't have, I looked search and search and

search for my Phillips screwdriver, can't find

it anywhere in this apartment. So I call and

when you go on MaddieCollector .com they said

if you have any product questions call Mattel,

don't talk to us. So I called Mattel and I said

is this figure able to come off of this stand

and just be by itself? And they said yes. Well

apparently you have to unscrew every single screw

because there's one screw for the battery pack

but there's three other screws. for the bottom

of the thing and like I've actually destroyed

the box because it comes in like this nice little

window small box because it has a display of

the Tokyo Mater episode like Tokyo in the background

so I've destroyed that and I can't get him off

the damn thing because he's like He's not glued

on there, but it's like he's bolted down and

it's like, holy crap. And they've shown pictures

where he's able to be, by himself, a tow truck

by himself. And it's like, holy crap. So yeah,

I have to find a Phillips screwdriver. OK. Yeah.

OK. Yeah. Yeah, I already mentioned I already

teased up the contest that I won, so I'll skip

that. The other thing that I have coming in to

thank me for adding him to the show, Octobotamus,

he... No one's gonna be able to watch this because

he keeps them private, but he used to do Masters

of the Universe classics reviews, and he still

buys the figures. He just doesn't review them

because he doesn't want to do that, I guess.

uh... but he has all the ones he already done

private i said well you know let me see them

uh... i'd i'd i'd like to see his opinion on

them so he said to me on youtube and in one of

his things he said he had an extra adora figure

and i'm like who really and of course i'm thinking

this is last january that she came out this past

january twenty ten i think there's no way in

hell he's still gonna have this minted box adora

this extra figures i'd be in my city you know

do you do you still have her He goes, yeah, I'll

send it to you as a thank you for having me come

on the show. I'm like, oh, cool. So yeah, that

should be here by Saturday. Yeah, very awesome.

Other than that, not much else is going on. We

have a huge thing in two weeks on the 26th of

August that we are going to be doing here on

Beast Unleashed. And I'm not going to. Really

tease it any more than that. Let's just say we've

gotten yet another voice actor interview from

Beast Wars and unfortunately while it's great

that we got it and Steve is really the one that

deserves all the credit even though we killed

him in this episode He actually got all this

set up together and everything else so Unfortunately,

it is not the one the only scabbing nail, but

it's still cool so Yeah, I think... I think I'm

about done, so are we ready to get into some

episodes? Sure, why not. Let's do that then.

Nothing to say for yourself, eh? Yes. Duck! Huh?

This is between Predacons! First up this evening

is Proving Grounds. The original air date was

February 14th, 1999. It was written by Arthur

Sellers. The Maximals look on as Rhinox scans

Black Arachnia and discovers the shell program

encoded in her core by Tarantulas. Rhinox explains

that the separating it would free the spider

of any last vestiges of Predacon control, but

could also wipe out her mind. Frustrated, Black

Arachnia goes off on her own to the forests outside,

but stalking her is the transmetal two hunter

known as Dinobot. My first note was, Wowsers

Blackarachnia calls Cheetor out on his crush.

Did you just say Wowsers? Yes, I said Wowsers.

Yeah, I thought that was funny. She's like, you,

who's tearing up my tits? i know you're doing

it i know you're doing it you just fucking stop

it i keep waiting for steve to chime in yes but

we killed him i think we should like you know

pause briefly in between lines and then just

filter him back in later after the fact no make

it so it sounds like it kind of like photoshopping

him into the picture so it sounds like he was

really here? he's deader than a doornail ah well

just taking up space in my backyard see i don't

have a backyard so i couldn't put him where i

live so yeah um let me see here what the fuck

was the weapon that tm2dinoBot had? that was

like a holo projector oh okay That's why, uh,

when Blackarachnia jumped at him and tried to

attack him, uh, he kinda, like, flickered and...

Right. Right. Well... I... I really liked the

holo... Well, holo -dino -bot, I guess you'd

call him. Yeah. Yeah, I did too. Um, I... I just,

at first... I wrote that note down when I first

saw it. When I just first saw the weapon. and

it didn't i didn't actually or didn't actually

activate yet so i'm thinking what the hell is

that uh... you know i don't know if you've ever

played it but uh... uh... as a game called portal

no i've never played it uh... for it it's short

and sweet and you know it's endearing even if

you're playing you'd be like oh my god this is

the best game ever but uh... it's like that by

the time you get to the end you think it's the

best game ever no matter what But there's these

gun turrets that look like that and they're kind

of like a pod. And then it splits open and the

gun barrels pop out. And the coolest thing about

these particular gun turrets is that they talk

when you get close. And they're like, hello,

are you still there? Oh my god. It's funny. It's

funny because when they kill you, they're like,

I'm sorry. It's just really funny. But no, the

holo -projector reminded me of a portal gun turret.

Did you notice the games Rat Trap played? Yeah,

in Street Fighter. Well, it's Street Fighter

in... in Beast Wars style because it's him versus

Megatron with the background of the outer doors

of the base of the new base yeah yeah and then

the other game was which is like a million Waspinator

Splat Alerts yeah that was like a well I want

to say Doom but it I think it was supposed to

be more like Wolfenstein 3D yeah yeah the original

yeah like which is really really old yes yes

it is Now hold still, this will hurt. Of course,

when I first heard him say that line, at first

I thought he was going to say, now hold still,

this won't hurt a bit, kind of like lockdown

in animated. Oh man. I just keep seeing this

whole, you know... Physical violence against

women thing over And it's like man is what what's

going on this seems to be a recurring theme?

Granted she's you know well she look at the way.

She's dressed clearly. She's deserving of beating

Yeah, really um I'm just goading listeners I'm

kidding. I don't really think like that. But

it seems like everyone's trying to hold her down

and beat her up lately. Yeah. Well, she actually

gets back some stuff because damn, she shoots

Silverbolt, then she headbutts him. This is just

not Silverbolt's day. But you gotta love the

damage models. I'm gonna beat the shit out of

you, but you look cool beat up, you know? It's

kind of nice. Yeah, it seemed like everybody

got a good damage model. What do you have for

this one? Because my last note was, while this

episode was fun, it barely featured Megatron

and kind of just meh. You know, I don't know.

I like the use of Blackarachnia. And of course,

if you have Blackarachnia, you have Silverbolt.

And I like the idea that That, you know, Dinobots

out there, you know, kind of mentally sparring

with Blackarachnia for a bit and kind of dragging

her into a trap so that he can rape her. It's

essentially what's happening here, right? I mean,

he's literally, you know, kind of luring her

into a dark alley so that he can have his way

with her. Yeah, I'm not condoning this. I'm just

saying. But yeah, I I don't know I'm thinking

why can't we have another Rhinox episode? Yeah

Does every episode have to be about black or

acne and silver bowl? I get it. They're in love.

It's sweet, but come on Yes, we need another

trip down the low road We get that later I Don't

think we need that here, but I mean seriously,

you know, let's have a nice Rhinox episode. Let's

have an episode all about Quickstrike. Quickstrike

brushing his teeth and having Fritos in front

of the TV. But god, not another black correcting

a silverbolt episode. I mean, come on. Oh boy.

I'm sorry, that's just the way it comes across

to me. Yeah, I agree. I'm not disagreeing here.

I'm just trying to figure out where to go from

that. Oh. Well, no, that was the return of the

snake rejuvenator. Snake? I should say so. Well,

yeah. Well, I remember when Cheetor had the green

snake coming out of his eye. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

that was clearly is not his ass And now we have

Dinobot who's got I think it was purple purple

snake Coming out of his chest came out of a spark

Yeah, well, you know wherever you keep it in

your ass in your chest The reason why is because

his spark is half of rampages and rampages spark

is indestructible. So that's why that that's

there Well, no, I just assume that, you know,

again, I think you mentioned in that last episode,

which I forget the name of it right off hand,

but that's how they regenerate. And, you know,

Blackarachnia, not knowing that that's how they

regenerate, made the mistake of turning her back

on Dinobot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, while his purple

snake rejuvenator was taking care of his wounds.

I love this model of Dinobot. as far as the design,

the alt mode and the robot mode. I think it's

a hell of a lot cooler than the original DinoBot

as far as the design aesthetic. I've got the

toy and after playing with the toy I can tell

you that it's kind of crap. The toy probably

is because they didn't know how to translate

from cartoon to toy. Well, no, I actually I think

that they it's the other way around I think they

made the toy and then handed the toy over and

had them scan it You know and then make a 3d

model out of it But I mean, you know if you look

at him, you know, especially like the way his

hands are and the way his arms are I mean literally

it's all hinge joints and There's it's the pose

ability is compromised put it that way and then

you got this big ass tail That you know looks

cool on screen, but in reality It's you know

you can't do a whole lot with it and at least

the last one it was split in half And you could

you know spin it? You know like a I don't know

like you know like the the helicopter blades

he would use as a well But you can't even do

that with this. This is just a big chunk of plastic.

That's in the way Well, I'm not saying I enjoyed

the toy. I like the cartoon model Yeah, I mean

honestly, I think I like the last one better

Just in that, you know, I mean he had proper

arms and you know proper legs and such and they

took some liberties but You know, I think he

made he made a better, you know, he made a better

model on screen Whereas this one it's uh, you

know They spend a lot of time focusing on his

face because the rest of him kind of looks like

ass Well, you know, I guess once you take a look

at enough pictures of his entire body, it's like,

ugh. Do we have anything else to say about Proving

Grounds? Yeah, this is Proving Grounds. Do we

have anything else to say about this episode?

Uh, I like, in the beginning, I like when Black

Reckonia was trying to stalk Dinobots. Yeah.

not realizing that he was leading her into a

trap but uh you know and she's kind of jumping

through the trees and it reminded me of predator

yeah i'm like dude she could turn invisible and

have like uh what do they like infrared vision

yeah yeah that would rock interesting well yeah

yeah one of those things i picked up on um But

the one of the closing quotes optimus landon

says you both look like scrap Just you know just

out of the off the cuff, you know the two of

you You look like you you look like you have

excellent damage models Really nice someone put

a lot of effort in making you look like you got

the crap beat out of you Speaking of that, you

know Dinobot He was injured, but he didn't really

get much of a damage model. No He had like a

sparking shoulder. Yeah, and yeah, and then the

the you know the rejuvenator tentacles came out

and And kind of focused on his arm and fix that

but the rest of him wasn't so much beat up I

don't think this Dinobot is meant to be damage

model worthy like the like the original Dinobot

was because Let's face it. He's entirely metal

as far as his entire body goes and he's meant

to be a more vicious version of Dinobot Especially

since rampage is still alive of course once once

Dep charge does him in then we'll see slightly

the older more nobler Dinobot and once we get

the nemesis, but Yeah, this one's meant to be

The cartoon's over ten years old. Fuck spoilers,

damn it. If people haven't watched this cartoon,

which they should, by now, no. I could see if

this is like, we're reviewing the episodes as

they came out, but you know. But this Dinobot,

this TM2 Dinobot that's under Megatron's control...

uh... fully under megatron's control because

even when black arachnia tried to give him this

way again this way over he's like man and is

going to kick your boyfriend's ass uh... you

know one thing that i thought she was going to

bring up uh... mainly because i read in the wiki

and he does that but uh... well you just called

out on his own show he's not even here holy crap

Exactly, he's yeah when he comes back to life.

He'll call me out for that, but No, he you know

he does that that that's like his thing in fact

most the time I won't even mention things in

the wiki because I know he'll bring it in but

One of the things that came out of the animation

error list was There's a scene where the Maximals

work out where silverbolt and black arachnia

have gone and a green piece of metal kind of

clips through right next to his chest. And I

read that and thought, you know, I didn't see

that. And I, you know, knowing that Steve was

going to mention it, I thought I'd go back and

look it up. And yeah, it does. It's very brief.

And if you didn't notice, if you didn't notice

it, you would just assume it was another one

of the teeth in his chest. You know, he's got

the teeth. And it's kind of like a little piece

of green right next to one of the teeth. Yeah.

It was tiny. I can understand why the animators

just either didn't notice it or left it in. But

if you have way too much time on your hands,

you'd probably notice it. Or if you'd watched

it 15 times and then went, ooh, what's that?

You might notice it. Yeah, I watched it once

and I didn't notice it. Oh, yeah, I didn't notice

it either. But once I went back and read the

wiki, I was like, wait a minute. I'm gonna go

back and see that. Yes. So, anything else on

Proving Grounds? Uh, Home Rover. Yeah. I was

trying to come up with a clever acronym to combine

the two of them. Like, Spider Doggy Bot or Spider

Wolf Fly Thing. I don't know. Oh god. You're

not going to have one of those Brangelina showman's

names, are you? I don't know what the hell I

was thinking. Brangelina. I hate that. Silver

Bolt and Black Arachnia. So it would be what?

Silver Arachnia or Black Bolt or... Okay, we're

just pulling stuff out of our ass here folks,

so we're gonna move on home rover Get that compression

tower back upright! Once those others have located

our targets, it will be time for a final test.

At full power! Old man, are you sure you can't

move? Shut up and push. To the water. If only

we hit the simplest piece of standard - Up next

is Go With The Flow. The original air date was

February 18, 1999 and it was written by Bob Forward.

Cheetor and Rattrap teach the pro -human children

simple machines and defensive techniques. High

above, Megatron aims a gigantic cannon at the

Ark. Unfortunately for Megatron, activating the

weapon might short out Predacon's circuitry,

so Tarantulas suggests forcing the pre -human

children to completing the last steps of the

firing sequence. That's a horrible synopsis.

I'm sorry. Rhino, what the hell were you people

thinking when you wrote that? That's about what

happened, right? I know it's about what happened,

but I don't know, it's just horribly short for

me. I don't really like it, whatever. This wasn't

the most fantastic of episodes. There's not a

whole lot to tell here. Tutor the Teacher. Awesome,

yet tragic. Yeah, I'm wondering where he got

the chalkboards. It's like we have all this advanced

technology. How about some chalk? Okay, sure.

Yeah, can anyone say slave labor episode? That's

right, Megatron's sweatshop. There you go. It

wasn't much of a sweatshop though, because I

mean, he really had to work for it. Oh yeah.

And see, this is really where, even though he's

currently dead and Megatron has to revive him,

this is really where we need Steve in this episode,

because there's so many awesome lines from Megatron

in this episode. That's right. Oh boy, uh...

Splat! No! Over there! That one! No! No! Oh god,

you're killing me, kid! It was just some really

funny stuff. Oh yeah. Splat alert for all Preds!

When the machine backf... Not when the machine

back... Not at the end, but at the beginning

when it first goes to... Oh, when it starts up?

Yeah. They all get shocked? Yep. Yeah, Megatron's

gun has... Shocking results. Hey Cheetor is Transmental

too now. He's supposed to be more powerful than

before Why the heck does he get blasted so good

in this opening scene? Because well it's point

-blank range basically snuck right up behind

him. It doesn't but see that's the thing though

They made him seem in Feral Scream like he's

this all -knowing badass transmittal to batman

wannabe and now he doesn't seem to think uh...

well i think what he's doing with the children

he almost uh... you know he almost refers back

to his preteen voice even a little bit yeah but

not much he's not you know he's not quite acting

like all on the big tough guy i'm not sure if

i've said this before i don't remember if i did

it i think so i think you might have made a comment

about a pizza thrower but that charges weapons

coming out of his mouth it looks like he's spitting

firepower like fire mario it just does oh yeah

turtle power I was surprised that Depth Charge

finally took some time away from his never -ending

quest to defeat Rampage. And he really came through

this episode. He had a lot of screen time, and

Rampage didn't have any. There was no Rampage

here, which kind of explained why Depth Charge

was so helpful. No, he was in the cave scene.

Briefly he was in the cave scene. I don't remember

him seeing him at all. Yeah, he was in the cave

scene He was I'll have to go back and look but

I'm thinking that if he was there and I don't

remember seeing him But if he was there death

charge would have been all over him Like stink

on doo -doo. Let's see. Let's see. That's the

thing though death charge And Rat Trap and Cheetor

never got to the cave because of the blasting

from the weapon. What I'm saying is, when they

first went to fire it up and everybody got splatted,

Depth Charge was... not Depth Charge, Depth Charge.

Jesus Christ. Rampage was there because I remember

seeing him scream. I guess I could be wrong,

but I could have sworn I remember seeing Rampage

in the cave when they all got shocked. Yeah,

well, it would've been odd that if you were there

and then suddenly not there at all for the rest

of the episode. I don't know. Yeah, Wasp. Wasp

-a -litter delivers Fleshybot, then goes splat.

And then falls to pieces. I thought it was funny

that, you know, he's trying to bring her back

and the whole time she's just chipping off arms.

And she's like, just like, you know, what's this

do? Smack, smack, smack, and there goes this

leg and another leg. Well, she remembered what

Cheetor told her when you're when you're battling

bots, aim for the hinges. So I mean, so these

pro humans aren't as dumb as Megatron thinks

they are. But. The Waspinator calls and he's

like, Megatron, I have fleshy female bot, but

there's a problem. Is she injured? No, is she

injuring Waspinator? Oh, well then it's normal

then. Rather than make sure she doesn't, isn't

harmed. Situation normal. Yeah, yeah, situation

normal. It's funny because you know what snafu

stands for. Yeah, situation normal, all fucked

up. That's what I was thinking he says situation

normal and then and immediately I chime in with

it all fucked up That was funny it he's like,

you know, I don't give a rat's ass about you

Here's my rat trap. Oh wait, you can't have my

rat trap because I don't give a rat traps ass

And you know, he's basically more worried about

At least getting someone in there to help him

with this electrical problem. He's got yes, and

that goes into the next note poor Megatron dealing

with a simple mind He's like yes, yes, no no

not there over there. No. Yes. No fine. Just

Whatever whatever yeah, but he's so exasperated.

He's just like oh, man. I can't shoot you Want

to Because if it would have been any of his own

people he would have been like, oh, yeah Depth

charge is a boat and rat trap is paddling that

was so freaking sweet The best part is yet to

come as the episode closes. Fried Flounder? Tail

smacks Rattrap? Damn, that is a good ending.

It reaches up and cups him upside the head. Yeah.

That was funny. Yeah it was. Oh man. This episode

wasn't as funny as The Low Road is, but this

was pretty good. The Low Road wasn't funny, it

was dumb. The Low Road was funny. I don't think

so. What do you have for go with the flow? This

is another one of those situations where it would

have been nice to have Steve here because he

would be able to confirm this. I think this is

the first episode where they actually name Chalk

and Una. They've been in the episodes before,

but I don't remember them having names. Yeah,

what yeah when they were in love was it last

week yeah, not last last episode When black or

at yeah, they've never named them until now As

far as I know Yes, I thought and it's weird because

I had seen them named in the wiki yeah in the

episodes I'm thinking I don't I don't think that

they've named them. Yeah, I don't know I don't

know where these names are coming from Man, here

they named them and I thought, oh, wow, now I

feel dumb because I should have known this. Yeah.

But, uh... Yeah, there's, uh... There's a what?

Yeah, dead air, I'm sorry. My brain just went...

What I don't get is that... You've got this disruptor

cannon, right, that... When you try to start

it has electric feedback that shocks everybody

Yeah, and they don't they don't like this. So

they're going to you know get outside help well

Once it's activated Right. They're all standing

there while it's running and it's still pumping

out sparks And or electrical feedback and and

they don't see in the mind It's like, well, shouldn't

it be a little safer at that point? It just didn't

make any sense to me. Yeah, not a lot of things

with the disruptor thing made any sense to me

either. Yeah, it's like, you know, why not, I

don't know, get Tarantulas's spider drones to

do with that. Because apparently you had to use

a wrench to smack the screws in. Using a wrench

as a hammer. Yeah. I'm a hammer. Pound, pound,

pound. All right, that's fine. Whatever. Can't

touch this. Yeah. Hammer time. Did you notice

that the disruptor cannon kind of looked like

a huge gold staff weapon? Yeah. From Stargate?

Yep. Yeah, so I thought that was neat. But overall,

again, could have done without it. And it's sad,

too, because the last episode I'm bitching because,

oh, it's another Blackarachnia Silverbolt episode.

And this one's not. It's clearly about Una, for

the most part, and the fact that the proto -humans

can be taught, that they learn. And that's nice,

but again... You know, the huge glaring plot

holes here. I don't know. I don't want to say

maybe better writing could have fixed this, because

generally the writing is really good in this

series. And this one wasn't horrible, but still,

it just seemed like... I'll admit it was a...

It was a filler episode because, I believe, and

I'm not too sure on this, this episode replaced

an episode called Dark Glass, which Kristy Marks

wrote, which apparently was deemed too... violent,

maybe? I don't know, look it up on the wiki and

see what you can pull up. I know it's there,

but... Yeah, I saw it, I didn't read it. Yeah,

there's there's there's something there was something

about dark glass that they that I think it explained

a whole bunch of stuff from the end of season

two or something or to tie up to now to where

we were just with proving grounds and Maybe the

network said our mainframe might have said no,

we're not gonna do that and this episode replaced

that So this is basically a filler episode. I

do like that. They're showing cheetor actually

has a functioning brain and Actually does you

know some good and he wants you know? He's trying

to help these kids and everything else and that

you know that's very cool They're not they're

not just showing them in constant war even though

Megatron still has a scheme up his sleeve You

know they're they're they're showing us that

the Maximals do other things other than fight

the protocols constantly so well i didn't actually

read it um... i'm gonna have to go back and do

that uh... because i mean you know i don't think

the script is there i just think information

about it is there i'm not sure i think the only

i don't even think the script is available anywhere

other than whoever you know probably chris miss

marks might still have a copy of it I'm not really

sure as far as dark glass goes. We need to talk

to her Yes, I'm working on that I've been meaning

to talk to you about it, but you've never around

when I want to talk to you about it. So anyway

Anything else on go with the flow? No, not so

much Alrighty then so we're gonna move on. Holy

crap. I just pulled a Steve Ace Ventura thing.

Damn it Attention. Attention. Attention. Shell

program T -70 in jeopardy. Blackarachnia. Tarantulas

to Megatron. Our lieutenant. What news? I've

just learned the Maximals are tampering with

Blackarachnia's shell program. Impossible. They

wouldn't chance that unless... Unless she's passed

the access codes onto someone else. Optimus,

no doubt. Of course. Which fits in nicely with

our little plan for him. But what of Blackarachnia?

She'll never survive the attempt. The shell I

implanted in her has certain... safeguards. Excellent.

But just to be on the safe side, I believe we'll

give the Maximal something else to worry about.

Yes. Up next is Crossing the Rubicon. The original

air date was February 22, 1999, and it was written

by D .C. Fontana. Black Arachnia attempts to

upgrade herself with Megatron's Transmetal 2

driver. She collapses and begins suffering from

seizures in effect of the coded program left

within her by Tarantulas. Rhinox volunteers to

perform a risky operation that will sever the

Predacon code from Black Arachnia's core consciousness.

Hmm. Yeah, these... they're really failing me

on these plot synopsises. because they're not

that well that and i need to you know everybody

knows between tfg1 podcast and the beast on leash

podcast i use booklets well for the most part

i use the booklets tfg1 there was a couple of

times where i wrote out long drawn out synopsises

but ever since then i've used the booklets that

come with the dvds as long as they have synopsises

and yeah rhino is really failing me on this one

uh... This series is so sci -fi writing with

all the mad experiments. Not that it's a bad

thing. It's just... I mean, mad experiment after

mad experiment after mad experiment. For science!

Yeah. No. Not for science. Mad science. We're

in science. Anyway, let's not go there. There

will be no Anthony Michael Hall in this episode.

Thank God the energon surge interrupted the PDA.

That happens a couple times in this episode.

Yeah. Thank God. That surgical table, whatever

it is, looks like an oversized cereal bowl. It

does! Because she gets up and she gets into it,

and it's deeper than what we're led to believe

from the other Maximals standing around it. It

looks like a freaking cereal bowl. Once it actually

spins up and puts her up against the wall. And

then you see how just how big it is, but yeah

I really liked the designs on the insides of

black for a while that sounds so horrible Yeah,

the designs on the inside of her consciousness

Were very awesome oh As far as yeah, you know

I I keep waiting for the Johnny Memnonic interface

to come back, and it just doesn't. But no, this

was neat. I really liked the Rhinox submarine.

The Rhinox submarine, yeah. Yeah, just like the

Beatle song. Yeah, Yellow Submarine. We all lived

in a Rhinox submarine. well done well right so

that we have two songs for this podcast we have

debt charge fishpans which will never happen

never well if we were going to bring up a little

bit of a last episode never have uh... i was

going to spare you the uh... depth charge fishpans

and now we have rhinox submarine old god rhinox

i like the rhinox submarine you're gonna have

to uh... you're gonna have to Pull up lyrics

for Rhinox submarine and put them on the comment

this episode post you already did on depth charge

fish pants So you can do it for this? That was

easy so I'm sure you could figure this out You're

a smart guy come on We'll figure something out

pop goes the crab cake How many times does she

call him Crabcake? I don't - How many times does

she call Megatron Grapeface? Uh, you know, I

thought she said Rapeface. No, she said Grapeface!

And I was like, oh, what? Wait, I'm - No. Now,

with face raping action. Hasbro, do not listen

to this. Isn't that essentially what Michael

Bay's optimist does? He runs around raping faces.

Give me your face. My face has been raped. Ow,

ow, it hurts. That spider is dead, dot, dot,

dot, dot, dot. Maybe. Because there's part of

it before... Oh, they do a cut... to have sworn

maybe they didn't do a cutscene i thought they

when they left her after she did supposedly die

yeah she actually flatlines yeah she flatlines

but i believe as they're leaving as they pan

out of the shot they show the tm2 driver yeah

and then it goes to another scene and then it

comes back to that and it shows it hovering over

so yeah i mean you know she's not dead i mean

Well, I think she's dead but the the thing is

going to bring her back to life. Yep And with

with tentacles. Yeah Nobody expects the tentacle

porn. Oh It's like a repeated theme here, but

the second or third time has happened. Yeah And

it's like, okay, so we have this I mean literally

unconscious female and tentacles okay where they

go oh oh oh yeah so it was yeah nobody ever expects

the tentacle born no I really I didn't expect

to see this next no I didn't expect to see this

but this was just awesome silver bolts eye going

red that was nice He was very Yeah He's like,

I think I think I'm pissed off and you know,

he goes through all this effort to to you know

defeat tarantulas He could have just dropped

a rock on you Is this really you know you do

that he's out he's gone for the episodes, you

know Transmetal 2 coming at ya in relation to

Blackarachnia's new body which I really like

the body model on her Transmetal 2 versus her

original. I've never liked her original robot

mode. No, I don't know what it is. I don't like

that original model, but I really enjoy this

new model. See I always liked the original one,

but the new one's nice too. It's you know. It's

just she's wearing a bra It might be considered

like a Sports bra You know it's it's uh You know

tight keeps them all pressed up against her so

they don't bounce when she runs But, I mean,

literally, it doesn't seem to be a whole lot

there. No. If that makes any sense. Round and

round and round Rampage goes, and where he stops,

nobody knows. The spinning of Rampage, that was

funny. I didn't so much like, you know, when

he hit the wall. I thought maybe he should have...

Hit a rock. No, it's just gone over and disappeared,

you know, so we could have a nice team rocket

moment No, we didn't have any rocket moments.

Well, I mean he hit a - I mean granted he went

through the wall Yeah, he went through it. Technically

that might have been a team rocket moment, but

not so much. There was no ding Yeah, there was

no ding And my final note for this one And with

the new and improved black arachnia, Transmetal

2, she still has no real fucking hands Yeah,

yeah, let's just get these weird Yeah, I like

that when you know a silver boat reaches out

and takes her hands and I'm like So what were

you thinking about this one? Well, there was

a line from Megatron earlier where he says, uh,

oh yes, this fits in nicely with our plans for

him, you know, meaning Optimus. And I'm thinking,

ooh, foreshadowing, you know, that's, that's

going to line up, uh, exactly. I, you know, generally

when they foreshadow things, it's usually a couple

episodes ahead. So I was surprised that, that,

uh, you know, this one paid off so quickly. Yeah.

Did you see the transmetal ducky? Yes. It's funky

looking. I had to stop and take a good look at

it. You mean the shot of him going into the monitor

with it in his hand, you mean? He's in the tub.

Yeah, exactly. I think I grabbed that as a picture

way back when. So that might be alternate art

for this episode. I'm not sure yet. Yeah, I thought

that was funny Yeah, it was the the anti -maximal

missile. Oh Yeah, oh yeah, it's like Tarantulas

had this you know rocket launcher and on the

front of the missile had a little maximal symbol

with a kind of a cross X across it, you know,

which I thought was kind of neat He says goodbye

my treacherous creation and then fires it off.

Yep I thought that was very it's a nice touch.

You could have just you know fired off a regular

one of those You know nuclear missiles with the

little nuclear Insignia on the front of it or

something. Yeah, so now I thought I thought that

was a nice touch quick and easy Yes, very much

so I forget what episode it was. It was a couple

back, but I think Steven made a big deal about

tarantulas using his leg guns. And I honestly

didn't remember seeing him do it. It was like

a blinker, you miss it type of thing. In this

episode, he uses his shoulder guns. Where shoulder

pads actually have circles in them that are supposed

to be guns. And I wasn't sure, it's like, well,

is this what he did last time or did he actually

use his leg guns? I think he used his leg guns

last time. I don't think he's used his shoulder

guns until now. Yeah, honestly, I think the shoulder

guns make more sense with the transmetal body.

Yeah. But no, I mean, I thought it was cool.

It just surprised me that it wasn't on his legs.

Or that he didn't use the legs, he used the shoulders.

Was he in... He was in robot mode though, right?

He was in robot mode, yeah. I think what Steve

was saying with the leg guns was he was in the

bike mode at the time that he used them for the

legs. Oh, really? Yeah. That's interesting. The

one where he and Quickstrike and whoever else

was with them come... Was it... What was that

episode? Cutting Edge. Yeah, it was in cutting

-edge. It was yeah, it was last episode of the

podcast I'm not sure I don't really but I think

if I remember correctly Steve said that he was

in he was in alt mode He was in he was in like

mode when he used the leg guns Again it was a

blinker you miss it type situation, and I blinked

and you missed it I Missed I don't remember seeing

it. I'll have to take your word for it Yeah,

I I can't remember for the life of me cuz cuz

honestly as I'm watching these episodes I'm not

going back. It's like I like I'm I'm I'm not

ready to have the show over but I'm like Constantly

going forward and I'm not going back and rewatching

them. And of course Eventually, like maybe I

don't know a year or so down the line I'll come

back to Beast Wars and do like a marathon watch

of it again But once we finish this show, I probably

won't watch this these cartoons for a while Right,

right. Well, you know, I mean, at that point,

we'll have Beast Machines to watch. Yeah. Or

I should say, next week, when we do the last

three episodes of season three. Well, we have

season three, last three episodes, and then we

have the recap. But after the recap is Beast

Machines. Right, right, yeah. So I'm really looking

forward to that. The recap or Beast Machines?

Uh, no, I hate recaps. Uh, waste of time. Well,

they're short and sweet. I mean, come on. You

can't complain saying, oh, I'm gonna be up until

3 a .m. doing this. I mean, they're like 30 minutes,

like 20, 30 minutes. It's not, I mean, hell.

Not a lot of time wasted. Yeah, time wasted.

It's like, haven't we talked about all this stuff

already? Well, yeah, but, you know, we're gonna

do it in a very small episode now. Oh, okay.

Well, it's more of a top ten type of a thing,

you know, like our favorite overall just discussing

the season. And I've said this before, and you

know this, I've said this before, it's a top,

you know, it's us discussing the overall season

arc, story arc, favorite characters overall from

watching the entire season, and favorite episodes.

That's pretty much what the recap episodes are.

Right. And then we move on. But I'm really looking

forward to watching Beast Machines again, because

it's been a while. Anything else? Do you have

anything else for which episode? Oh yeah, crossing

the river that there is no river in this episode.

Oh yeah, well, you gotta read the wiki for the

background there. The idea there is that the

Rubicon is a river in Italy. Uh, pronounce rub

icon. Okay. Kidding. Yeah, I'm a little slow

on that one, I got it now. Took a second, yeah.

No rubbing icons. No rubbing of the icons. There

will be no rubbing icons. Will they change color

if you touch them? Exactly. Talk about signs

of rub. it's a G1 reference. Exactly, there you

go. I'm Decepticon, dammit. I don't see it offhand,

which is killing me because I just read it earlier.

But what it comes down to is the Roman generals

were not allowed to move past this particular

river. And I'm not entirely sure why, but the

idea was we hold the line here at this river

and make sure that invading armies don't come

in. So they were not allowed to cross that river

but at one point Caesar as a general general

Caesar or whatever his name was before he was

Caesar he did and that in turn caused a civil

war that led to Rome being a you know like a

city -state to being an empire. So the idea there

is once you've crossed the Rubicon you've You've

passed the line of no return. There's no going

back now. The die has been cast. Gotcha. Yeah,

and that was the whole point of... The transmittal

to Blackarachnia. Right, Blackarachnia has crossed

the Rubicon, she's in Maxwell now, there's no

going back. Okay, anything else on crossing the

Rubicons? The Rubicon? What did you think of...

i don't want to say black reagan's new mode but

i mean her face in general is just funky looking

the spider face you mean or the robot mode face?

uh... well both really the spider face is kind

of funky but the robot mode really is what i'm

thinking of uh... actually i had steve mock up

the the last shot of the episode as artwork uh...

with silverbolt with his eyes closed and her

new face It's okay. It looks more good guy ish

than her other face did I guess? She just doesn't

seem like she would be evil now and of course

She's got the shell program gone, and she is

now maximal, but I mean it I don't know No, she's

not purple she's blue She's she's she's yeah,

she's a smurf if you choke a smurf it turns green

The gold lines, the gold outline stuff, like

around her cheeks and her nose and her headband

here, they look like some sort of masquerade

ball mask. You know how you go, like if you're

going to, well, Mardi Gras. They have all those

weird masks and scrap like that. That's what

it kind of reminds me of just the the gold pieces

on her face Because they don't they're not actually

doesn't it looks like it's more armor than it

is something is a part of her face Okay, I don't

know her spider mode is probably Just going off

of memory from seeing it earlier today when I

watched the episodes It's probably the spider

mode. I like the second best out of all of them

It's the one that I can like that I'm least likely

to cringe at But I think that You know when they

first show her she's got these weird tentacle

things on top of her head mm -hmm They kind of

move on their own accord which bothers me a little

bit. And then what I noticed in Master Blaster

coming up is that she's got ears. Yeah, she does.

And I'm just not thrilled with the ears. I mean,

you know, I understand if you're a cheetah and

you've got cheetah ears, but she's a spider.

Spiders don't have ears. Spiders don't have ears,

yeah. Well, unless you're Spider -Man, but then

they're covered up. Yeah, they're under your

mask yeah, so I mean yeah, I'm Again that is

true. I think she's got a weird shaped head like

her profile Her head is shaped funny, and it's

not like oh, she's wearing a helmet funny. It's

like no that's her head Yeah, and that's what

I'm saying the the gold pieces on her forehead

and around her Around her her cheeks That's why

I think they look like some sort of mask type

of deal because then it's not a part of her face.

It's Like clearly when you like in the next episode

when we get to master blaster You can see her

talking and you can see her chin moving, but

it's separate from the gold piece. That's next

to her fucking cheek So it's almost like it's

an armor. I I don't I don't know Should we just

move into the last episode of this episode? Sure.

Alrighty then. She's in that episode too. Yeah,

I know. Unfortunately. We're almost begging for

Una to come back at this point. Lever! Bully!

It's a Lever 2000 for all of your 2000 body parts.

Oh crap, we do not need soap commercials. Finally

up today we have Master Blaster. The original

air date was March 1st, 1999. It was written

by Eric Toren. Waspinator leads a...sortie to

the Ark as a diversion for a more devious mission.

Tarantulas implants a device inside Optimus Primal

that allows Megatron to control the Maximal leader

with the help of Quickstrike. Megatron plans

to enter the Ark using Primal's access codes.

Dun dun dun! And this was what you were referring

to in the last discussion where they were head

plans for him. This is what those plans were.

Right. Yes. Um... Damn, not five minutes into

this one and watch from there, it gets a splat

alert. Was it only five minutes? Yeah, it wasn't

even five minutes. Huh. Wasn't even because they...

Oh, that's right, he flew right into that one.

Yeah, Megatron said, yeah, Megatron said, Waspinator,

you will be subcommando for this mission. And

he did another thing like he did with Inferno

last episode of the podcast. You know, always

send the boob in first, type of move. And it's

like, where Waspinator's troops at? Oh, no. Oh,

yeah, Dawn's on him. I'm kind of in trouble.

Yeah, and then cuts a Megatron and he goes, ah,

diversion is always better when you're trying

to be sneaky or something. I don't remember what

the hell he said. Deception is the better part

of value. There! Yeah, that's what it was. Deception

is the better part. But I thought it was funny.

You've got these two great big hands on either

side of Waspinator and it's like, are those hands?

Oh crap. Yeah, he got flattened. Just squashed

him. Yeah, he got flunked. I still say, and I

will continue to say until we do the Season 3

recap of Beast Wars, that the Chaingun of Doom

from Season 1 was the best and funniest Splat

Alert ever. Well, I like the Chaingun of Doom,

but I also like the Waspinator Ginsu. Oh yeah,

there's like three or four of them. Yeah, that's

a good one. Yeah, so let's see here. Tarantulas

goes back to elementary school and he shoots

one mean spitball. Yeah, what is up with the

blowgun? I understand it's like a poison dart

analogy, but you know, you've got guns. Honestly

now. Come on. Come on. I just thought that was

dumb. Yeah, but the first thing I thought of

when I saw it before we started, when I watched

these episodes before we were going to record

this episode of the podcast was, oh wow, it takes

me back to elementary school and spitballing

days. Oh boy. I don't think I mentioned this

before. I might have. I'm not sure, but the black

arachnid screams must have done a number on Venus

Terzo's voice. seriously cuz those and and they're

gonna get worse yeah once we get to beast machines

yeah oh yeah that's right I wasn't even thinking

I was like what next couple episodes? no once

we get to beast machines they get worse so Black

Ratnia's Transmetal Tube Body has the force with

it huh? that's right she's like telepsychotic

it tell us i thought it uh... i like that but

that's what i think that you can move things

with her uh... uh... there you know i was gonna

say with her unstable personality but uh... c

and i wish we hadn't killed steve because i know

he's going to be kicking himself in the ass when

i read this next note i know he wanted to be

here for this specific episode This is the episode

where Megatron gets G1 Megatron's spark. It was

terribly cool to see G1 Megatron. Yes. Uh, and

speaking of Megatron, I wonder if at all possible,

hahaha! Megatron, actually, we actually killed

you so you're going to have to revive yourself.

Huh? Continue with the episode or do you want

to go back to sleep? Sure! okay well at this

point we just started master blaster yeah we

just started it so after my note about Megatron

getting a G1 Megatron spark the core implosion

oh noes oh yeah that's kind of an afterthought

really yeah Inferno is the big bad wolf let me

in let me in Kicked him out. Yeah, I know It's

like I really for me. I think the the majority

of this episode really centers around Megatron

getting into the arc and and trying to pull an

optimal optimus with G1 Megatron spark and then

subsequently beginning yeah I don't really like

the fact that they had to pull the whole quick

strike controlling him thing because of course

then but it was kind of funny because then we

have the note after quick strike is dispatched

when primal and Megatron are going at it Megatron's

thinking it's quick strike and he goes primal

it's you again Surprise! I love that. That's

so awesome. Well, you know, as dumb as Quickstrike

is, he can whip ass with a giant Autobot body.

Not hard to do when you're using Optimal Optimus.

Exactly. I mean, that's essentially what Optimal

Optimus is. He's an Autobot body. Yeah. I mean,

he's literally, when he's standing in the arc,

he's looking, you know, looking around as...

pretty much almost at eye level with the other

Autobots. He's big. Yeah, he's huge. Yeah, I

mean, and you know, he's standing in front of

Teletran and, you know, it doesn't look like

he's looking up at it. No, he's looking right

at it. Exactly. I don't know why I wrote this

down, but this is my last note for this episode.

That's one hot -footed ape. I'm not sure what

the hell happened, but... That's probably transformed

and shut off after Megatron. Oh, that's Feeder

actually behind him. Yeah, that's that's right.

They're clearly feet. Yeah, no, I know What smells

like eight feet What did you step in oh my god,

it's on fire Oh So I guess we'll go to Steve

since he hasn't been here for the majority of

this episode. What did you think of Master Blaster?

Well most certainly this would be my favorite

of the four from today. I like the fact that

each Maximal gets ambushed one by one until they're

all gone. Yeah. And Megatron's little comment

like Pokemon. I almost have the whole set. The

episode is much better with Megatron here. Yes.

We keep lamenting the fact that you're not here

to do the lines. It's like, god damn it. Yeah.

Stupid friggin' alarm and cell phone. Yeah. But

yeah, I like this episode overall. I like Megatrend's

little comment on how he got his power from,

or how Optimus got his power from Prime Spark

and he got his, you know, he's gonna mingle his

spark with a... G1 Megatron's and the snake scene

with his stomach was kind of disturbing. No Yeah,

no specs tentacle porn. Damn it. You stole it

They probably got it from that they're like that's

a mix a little bit of vinyl tech in here And

Megatron's smiling in a weird way in this big

pink spot in the center or red spot center chest

I have a question about his chest in robot mode

We all know the transmetal one Megatron his head

goes behind his dino head goes behind him on

his back or wherever it goes What is what the

hell is his chest supposed to be? it seeps through

but I was gonna say it's almost like Like a power

master prime situation where you know, even though

that's not really his windshield It's kind of

like a hidden windshield to make it look like

a windshield So even though it's not a dinosaur

head, it's kind of like a fake dinosaur head

to make it look like there's a dinosaur head

there. Oh, okay. If that makes sense. Yeah, that

kind of makes sense. I like how it's split open

and kind of moved out of the way. Yeah, for his

spark. Yeah, his spark chamber opened up and

then you've got... The tentacle porn. Tentacles!

Yeah, I'm like... You know, they're just gonna

ease up on the tentacles here because it's starting

to get monotonous now. At least they only used

it this time. Oh. Yeah, it's like spiky tentacles.

There could have been like four or five of them,

you know? I mean, one, even though it had spikes

on it, is probably enough. At least he didn't

get a... make his tentacle grow stiff. Oh. Oh,

that's not what I needed. Yikes. Well, the sad

thing is, once he actually gets a hold of the

spark, you don't know who's raping who. Because

G1 Megatron's trying to get away. It's whipping

around, and he's like, whoa, whoa, down, doggy.

And yet he doesn't actually get away. Nope. He

completely absorbs him. Yup. I think that tarantulas

is betrayal. Yeah, I think that would be dangerous

as far as that. I love how tarantulas makes quick

strike, drop. Black ray. Oh yeah. Disappears

and you see his hand flowing down like terminator.

Yeah, that was a... That's an entitled sequence.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a good death scene

for Megatron. I was actually thinking, whoa,

here we are at the end of season three and they're

gonna kill him off. Not that they're gonna, but

I can imagine if you're watching this for the

first time in, you know, 1997 or whatever, 1998,

this scene would probably make you completely

freak out. I was like, what the hell? And then

all of a sudden I see this... little dragon arms

start flowing out of the lava and staring at

Tarantulas from behind and then Tarantulas is

like, he turns around and he's like, oh shit,

oh shit, yeah. And then he kind of drops a little

bit of spider niblets on the ground and then,

you know, Megatron comes up and isn't marveling

at his new form. Yes. Had the toy come out yet?

I mean, was there... Yes, I owned it. Oh, okay,

so at that point, you know he's gonna change.

Yes. Oh, okay. So I wasn't sure... Yeah, I wasn't

sure if it was like, oh, he's dead, what now?

Or if it was like, okay, he's just transforming.

Or he's evolving, let's say. I think he knew

he was gonna evolve, though. He played with Megatron

Spark. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, you know, they

dropped him in the lava, so that's basically

how they killed off, uh, Laserbeak and, and,

uh, Scorponok. Laserbeak? No, uh, Quickstrike

and, uh, Pterosaur. No, it was Pterosaur and

Pterosaur. Laserbeak was a repaint of Pterosaur,

my bad, sorry. Yes, but they fell into lava and

they were transmittal and they died. Yeah, exactly

so that must mean that Megatron plus Megatron

equals no death He's immortal That's probably

why his spark is Having issues as far as the

next show. I figured that the Lava just wasn't

that hot Well, he actually throws tarantulas

in the water. Yeah, but tarantulas technically

isn't Cybertronian of by nature or you know Autobot

Decepticon nature he's a spawn of Unicron Where'd

that come from? Well Megatron's made several

references to the fact that he's a spawn of Unicron

and plus Tranceless has said that he's not of

Autobot Decepticon origin Yeah, he had, I remember

him saying that in a previous season. He said

that numerous times throughout the series. I

always thought that he just meant that he was,

uh, you know, working directly for the Triceratacus

Council and that. Well, why else would he keep

continually trying to destroy the Ark? He's like,

it wouldn't affect me. He's like, what the hell

do I care? Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna take a

big ass dump on top of you. I'm going to take

a big -ass dump of Dark Energon on top of you

because Dark Energon is Unicron. Okay. It's a

warped Cybertron reference, man. Come on. I know,

I know. I would know I haven't played the game.

But anyways, so technically if Tarantulas blew

up the Ark, Megatron would still survive. Yeah.

His body would not survive, but his spark was

still in Megatron. You know, as far as the Beast

Wars Megatron, so therefore, he would live on.

Huh. Anything else, Steve? Um... Let me see.

Uh... I like this... the quote of... Read the

wiki. That's what I'm doing. Uh... This is not

hard to come up with stuff, though. I love this

episode. Okay. Uh... I like the... Oh yeah, and

the ice, you never see him shoot the ice. The

ice beam. Yeah. It's used this once and then

he's all fire after this. It was very cool though.

I expected him to break his arm. Snap it off.

An optimal optimist sickle. It's an optimal sickle.

Oh, that sounds so wrong. He's like... I want

I want to bite some monkey. Oh boy. Anyways um

your entrance is like by the pit you live I am

not easily destroyed and thanks to your treachery

my power is greater than ever. Let me thank you.

He had an excellent entrance. Yes. can suffer

your treachery lieutenant but not your incompetence

treachery requires no mistakes yeah this might

be my favorite Megatron alt mode that's it's

this one is my favorite but a close second would

be his transmittal form mmm I really like such

raw power between the two Just not a big fan

of his dinosaur modes, you know transmetal or

otherwise But now the dragon mode is really cool.

I really like the dragon mode. I Just like the

impressiveness that his robot form gives off

Yeah, he's just big I Mean, well, you know, well

as far as the show like he goes I mean, the toy

isn't much difference. I mean, it's a little

bit bigger in size, same with the Optimal. However,

in the show, they're pretty much eye to eye after

this. And, you know, Megatron is quite a bit

larger than the rest of the Predacons other than

Rampage at this point now. Right, right. I dig

the roar. Oh yeah. He's got a great roar. I mean,

it reminds me of, uh, I don't know if you've

played Bioshock 2. Nope. Oh man, when the Little

Sisters come after you, or not the Little Sisters,

uh, the Big Sisters. Once you've harvested enough

of the Little Sisters, a Big Sister will come

and try to find you. And, uh, you know, you know

when they're coming because they let out this

horrible screech and it sounds, you know, like,

like the Megatron roar. It's a it's a horrible

horrible noise It's like fingernails on chalkboards

really loud While the dragon mode is not my favorite.

I'm getting used to it I still say transmetal

one shiny purple dino is better However, I will

say that I love the wings the wings on that thing

are awesome. Oh, yes Now I wish they would have

done a color accurate toy of this yeah for the

most part it is just completely red and there

aren't much you know paint differences as far

as the figure like there's no things detailed

the head's pretty much just black with four orange

squares on it and green eyes and he's got that

shitty grin on his face but uh the the rest of

the figure looks The form looks pretty damn close

to the show, but the colorations are not accurate

by any means. Now I thought that the wings, you

know, they weren't, they're in no way show accurate

in color, but I thought that they had different

shades. No, the, um, like they, on the metal

-istic parts on... As far as his wings and his

dragon head. Oh, yeah, they do transition a little

bit, but it's that's about the most detailed

The figure gets like as far as the robot mode.

Yeah, it's pretty plain Hmm it's a lot of solid

color instead of uh, you know more like to show

which yeah have been nice to actually see Better

detail as far as color Again, they didn't do

this so this would be something nice to see a

repaint of in the future for like a Some new

updated version of it kind of like they're going

back and redoing them if they ever come back

and do a 15th anniversary Then a nicer version

of this would be great the I Don't want to say

they repainted this is cryo tech they did and

I had both of them on my desk for a long time

I still have the Vengetron on my desk. The Cryo

-Tech I would probably get if it weren't for

the fact that I have a cheap ass. Oh, no, I got

it. I love the Dragon Mold so much that I bought

that one. And they have repaints of this at big

lots. They're, you know, cheap knockoffs. It's

actually bigger. You know, I never took mine

out of the package. I've got the black one and

silver one. They look awesome. They're they're

sharp. I liked it, you know, and it's like ten

bucks So it was totally worth it just to display

it in the package I'll never open it because

you know, it'll disintegrate when it touches

the air There by far no, you know quality product

no, but they look really good so master blaster

Yes, and Oh yeah, and then of special note the

toy does say Transmetal 2 on it even though it's

a Transmetal and it weren't if it weren't for

the fact that Basically they're saying the lava

is what made Megatron become the dragon Otherwise,

he probably would have been killed if it weren't

for the fact he's being upgraded right And then

he's telling primal in the episode tells black

right near that Megatron gained control of teletran

even though he's the one that did it Right They

call it teletron. I know like this episode which

is retarded. I know well the thing about I Don't

think no Megatron never got control of teletran

in this Tarantulas did well Megatron had to make

uh... primal gain control of it to get in right

he had a quick strike open right right but that

was quick it wasn't that it was it was optimist

but it wasn't really because it was quick strike

but after that megatron went into the lava and

then quick strike and tarantulas went into the

base and quick strike uh... treasurer said quick

strike give me direct access to tell a trend

one and he did all i'd be the thing through optimist

and a little keyboard popped out and tarantulas

with his ugly ass deformed hands started typing

away. And I have just a couple more notes. They

actually returned G1 Megatron Spark to his body,

although it's never actually shown. It was released

afterwards. At some point after Some events and

nemesis part two, but before they took the ride

home There is a a quick scene of that floating

around plus on the DVD Which is not? Complete

like it's it's just kind of a rough Yeah Yes,

but it actually got released through BWTF Benny's

website at the time before they threw it on The

DVDs Yeah Megatron's head when he Says that he's

almost collected the whole set is the wrong colors.

It's already his dragon colors for his head.

Oh Really? Yes, all the colors are exactly the

same. It's just that they accidentally screwed

up a couple scenes early and then The next scene

after he says that it's back to the standard

trans metal head Huh pretty producing pretty

noticeable clip for the most part Yeah But yeah

They also made with back on they made Tie -ins

to this episode with the power suit frame used

by quick strike is later used by the bike to

create primal prime and prime able dawn. Oh Cool

and the universe They use the alien transmittal

driver and this to create primal prime somehow

For the most part, I would say this is one of

the better episodes out of the four today. You

did have a lot of just, it's mostly a Megatron

-centric episode, which hasn't pretty much been

done since season one. Yeah. So it was quite

nice to see that. What do you got for this one,

Michael? Basically, pretty much things that Steve

already covered or that we already talked about.

I liked the better look at Optimus' insides when

the little spider was inside of him. It was kind

of funky. I liked Megatron's death scene and

subsequent rebirth. And I liked Tarantulas finally

showing his true colors again. After several

episodes of playing Knights, inexplicably, he's

like, ha ha, I'm in charge now, didn't ya? Well,

he doesn't have that much longer to do it either.

Very true. But that's really all I had. Alrighty

then. So I think we are... Done you're gonna

hear. I don't know clips quotes. I'm not sure

exactly what Steve's gonna put in here He'll

probably put some whole rant about How he missed

95 % of this episode So I guess we'll be back

after this Hey, this is cheetor and you're listening

to the beast unleashed podcast Ultra gear will

return to the beast unleashed podcast after this

Here's quote number one. By the way, thanks for

coming after me. It was sweet. As was the way

you confessed the truth to Optimus. We'll make

a maximal of you yet. In your dreams. I like

myself just the way I am. And I... Quote number

two. Hardly be any fun at all. Yeah, for you

creepazoid! I love the new look. Goodbye! You

missed. And you're ugly. Quote number three Only

thing worse than a salesman is a pushy Predacon

Auto guns online No Quote number four I can suffer

your treachery lieutenant, but not your incompetence

Treachery requires no mistakes And quote number

five. Quickly! Go! Primal! It's you again! Surprise!

Now, back to the Beast Unleashed podcast. I want

to bring up something before we close. Steve

had mentioned the full animatic special feature

that's on Season 3. And I'll cover this more

once we get to the recap of Season 3, but...

I want to put a call out or a fan question out

to all the fans of the show. In the description

of this, it says, let's see. To guard the dormant

Generation 1 Autobots and Decepticons from the

Predacons to find a way to return home, casualties

will mount on both sides as the Beast Wars roar

to an epic conclusion. Season 3 features first

appearance of fan -favorite Depth Charge, the

defection of Blackarachnia, and the debut of

I should say the transgendered tiger hawk. My

question is, and maybe Steve will answer this,

I don't know because I know Steve's a fan, but

how the hell is Depth Charge a fan favorite?

He was only in one season. Because he was the

new badass of season 3. Still no replacement

for Dinobot though. No, but he was a different

type of replacement Yeah, exactly trying to replace

Dinobot himself, but though I know the dynamic

that was Dinobot because He argues with rat trap

constantly throughout season three And rat traps

like I think I found someone else to piss off

Yeah What else? Steve, do you have anything you

want to say? I don't know, because I don't want

to just close the show and be like, oh, well,

we kind of fucked Steve over for this episode.

Well, I would have to say that as far as episodes

today, I would say Master Blaster, of course,

would be my favorite. Crossing of the Rubicon,

although, was not one of my favorites. I Do like

the episode it was nice to see black right now

finally get upgraded yes And it kind of weird

seeing the inside of a Predacon as far as the

programming chip Interface yes Go with the flow

I would have to say was A pretty good light -hearted

episode, a lot of comedy clips between the humans.

Now I did mention in that part of when we did

talk about Go With The Flow that that is a replacement

episode. It's basically a filler episode. That

was where Darkglass was supposed to have been,

correct? Yes. This was definitely a replacement

for it. Can you, like, without... Just off the

top of your head, do you remember what Darkglass

was supposed to be? Because I think I said something

in the episode about it being a continuation

or a conclusion from Agenda or something. Wasn't

it a conclusion from Season 2 or something? No,

what it was was Darkglass was supposed to be

a reference to... and this episode, Darkglass,

was written by... Christy marks and Larry to

tell you it was the only one to have another

copy of it at the time and They I believe we're

gonna give away copies of it and then decided

no They they actually said that It was a rumored

as a lost episode that was to feature rat trap

attempting to restore the original Dinobots personality

to Dinobot 2 Okay, and when the episode was to

refuse go with the flow was made instead They

this is something about dark glass is written

for season 2 and rejected by the editors but

They're saying they was replaced by transmutate,

but it's still wouldn't have applied considering

Dino Bot wasn't even made yet until season 3

Yeah, so 2 wasn't made yet till season 3. And

the old Dino body merges for a short time and

then Rhinox says something about he's only a

shadow of his former self and Yeah, basically

the reason why this episode was never made other

than Okay program because apparently it was it's

like although I don't see how it's too dark because

they had a metallic gargoyle and gargoyles that

had half a personality that was just freaking

evil and then the other half that was, you know,

evil. So this would basically be the same type

of element because the old Dinobot and new Dinobot

would constantly fight for control over the body

in this episode. Oh, so it's kind of like a me,

myself, and Irene thing. Kind of. And it doesn't

actually seat into it. Like, all of a sudden

when... Well, we'll discuss that next episode

as far as Dinobot, but it doesn't actually seat

until the final episode of Beast Wars. Right,

right. One other thing I want to mention before

I close this out, because we are kind of running

long in the tooth here. I noticed, and I don't

know how the hell this is, but several times,

Maximal Computers, it's Sentinel Voice. Sentinel

was taken by Megatron. In all four of these episodes,

I've heard the Sentinel voice today. Have a nice

day. No, I'm serious. Yeah, that's the art computer.

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about

the maximal base computer stuff. Sentinel's voice

was, again, there. I don't know why. Because

if they don't have the Sentinel program, how

can it be Sentinel's voice? But whatever. I want

to give a shout out to Glade Packer, a very cool

guy. He runs the Game is a Foot podcast at the

Sherlock Holmes podcast, and he's been listening

to the show. I also want to give a shout out

to Godspeed again for sending me an alt mode

War for Cybertron Optimus Prime. Also, of the

PredaconEmpire .com slash Nexus forums, Wing800

helped me out immensely where Michael Wilson

left me dangling and sent me two missiles plus

the orange gun for Optimal Optimus. So my Optimal

Optimus is now complete, no thanks to Michael

Wilson. Oh, very nice. Yes, very, very sweet.

I've had a lot of generosity come my way from

the fans and I want to thank every one of you

guys for sending the stuff that you've sent.

This is very, very cool of everybody. Hey, shut

up! You're getting a free DVD copy of G .I. Joe

the movie from Shout Factory. Shut the hell up.

Yes, that has still yet to arrive, but I will

be quite happy when it does. Yes. Blencher's

got, you know, free accessories thrown at him,

free Puggles thrown at him, and... Hey! Wait

a minute. I get the grand scheme larger. items

yeah okay then yeah throw some toys at me uh

yeah i was uh on uh facebook last night and uh

glade popped in and we chatted for a bit and

uh that was very cool uh you know he likes the

show and that means that uh you know aside from

the three of us and at least two other people

um five people like the show Well, this is a

very dark show so We have gone to no end to not

hide that I mean that that fact is not hidden

ever since this show Started it's gone down the

just dark humorous path. So I mean it's always

gone down the crapper It's just a matter of opinion

From a certain point of view At least it's not

TFG1 where it's like, oh this happened, this

happened, that happened, that happened, oh I

like this. Oh, Skylinks is shitting guns out

of his ass and, you know. Then you hear him crap

in his pants. My pants are full! My pants are

full! So what we're saying here is that the shows

are no fun unless we're just taking the low road

all the way. Yes, and the low road is awesome.

Energon farts and all. No. Yes! Burn in your

infernal hell. And on that note... Thank you

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