Interview with JD Duran on Royal City Vol. 1

This is Jason David Frank and you're listening

to the Geek Cash Radio Network. Hello everyone,

Dan here. Thank you for joining us on another

episode of the Comic Concierge Podcast. Today

is another Concierge episode where I sit down

and speak with someone regarding a book I recommended

for them based on their interest in other media

like TV, movies, books and more. Today I'll be

speaking with JD Duran of the Incession Film

Podcast on the comic Royal City by Jeff Flamir.

It was a great conversation and really enjoyed

having it with JD. And I did want to give the

warning upfront, though, that there are some

audio problems with this episode. You'll notice

it here and there, but overall, I still think

it's worth a listen. And I thank you again for

downloading. We do get into some slight spoilers,

very, very little. But if you're someone who

likes to know nothing about a comic before going

into it or anything that you experience, you

may want to read it first and then come back

and listen. But nothing major. Some plot elements

are discussed. Anyways, on with the show. Hello

and welcome to the Comics Concierge Podcast,

where we believe the comics are for everyone

the key is finding the right one. based upon

their interest in other fields, recommend a comic,

we'll talk about that comic and have some fun

doing it. But today I want to welcome our guest,

JD Duran. You know him from the Incession Film

Podcast, the wonderful film podcast that you

can find in IncessionFilm .com. You can listen

to their weekly reviews along with their bonus

episodes on Thursdays, which are often my favorite

because that's when you get into the nitty gritty

films that I don't hear about. But JD, thanks

for coming on. Hey, thanks for having me down

very glad to be here. Thank you. Thank you. Yes,

so JD I like to start off with talking to my

guest about the world of comics and As many anyone

would know that you're you know, you're a fan

of a film but getting into this What is your

experience with the meaning of comics? Have you

read any before or have you any interest in reading

any comics? Yeah, so I've certainly had interest

in comics It's been kind of off and on over the

years when I was younger in high school Until

I'm in middle school, I would delve into some

Marvel comics. Now, I couldn't tell you which

ones or which issues. I wasn't very much an amateur

in that. But whatever ones I could get my hands

on, I did enjoy. I know almost all kids you kind

of grow up watching the cartoons and you love

that and you start to Do research and wonder

the origins of these characters. And so, you

know, I would certainly read a few comics You

know from time to time in particular spider -man

because he was my favorite character growing

up and as I got older I started to get a little

bit more into Transformers comics with IDW especially

as the films Uh started to come out. I really

dug a lot of what they were writing in relation

to the films or just other transformers storylines

That they were writing at that time So were you

into the the cartoon before the comics or the

comics get you into transformers? Yeah, the cartoon

for sure came first and I loved it. I mean grew

up watching Transformers It was my favorite TV

show as a little kid So, you know always certainly

excited for the films because of that but similar

to what I was saying about Marvel that's kind

of Getting interested in the lore in the cartoon,

you know wondering and wanting to spend more

time with those characters. It's kind of transitioned

to a different medium in this case with with

comics as well, and started to delve into that.

And once I started in Session Film, things got

a little bit busier. So since then, it's been

harder to find a time to delve into comics a

little bit more, which is why I am really eager

to be here. This was a great excuse to dive into

a comic that's one, not Transformers, not Marvel,

but something completely different, which was

a new experience for me. Yeah, yeah, I'm cuz

I know going into this I know your fascination

with Transformers the property in the movies

or some of the movies and your government of

some of the Marvel properties but that's why

the comic that Recommended to you royal city

the one I the reason I thought about this I try

to took you know the sensibilities that I know

that what you enjoy when it comes to film and

I know you're a big fan of things that often

deal with family and relationships and Ideally,

honestly, I would love you to read Essex County,

which is Jeff Lemire's first really big work.

But it's gigantic. It's a huge book. It's an

easy read, honestly, because there's not a great

deal of dialogue, but it's effective. But it's

also hard. You kind of have to get the physical

copy of it and stuff like that. But Jeff Lemire

is, to me, probably, honestly, one of my favorite

writers. And I think he's really good at depicting

human drama. So that's why I went with rural

city because it very much is in the human drama

realm It's it doesn't necessarily have the better

sweetness of Essex County But there's also kind

of an interesting like meta super supernatural

element along with the idea of him talking about

writing, which I know you often like movies about

movies. So this is kind of a comic about writing

as well. So I figured to kind of hit some of

the ticks of what you enjoy about film. So I

thought that would be something within here outside

of the realm of Transformers or Marvel or superheroes

that might explore at what also comics have to

offer in the more whole storytelling realm. So

with that said. I was curious to hear what you

thought about real city volume one. Yeah You're

absolutely right real city was a comic and at

least fundamentally that is so up my alley because

you're right It's dealing about drama It's family

and relationships and They're very messy. There

is something driving a lot of that Ultimately,

you know the thing that I responded to the most

about this this whole volume is that it delves

into just how broken these characters are. And

the writing of this comic does not hold back

in any sort of way. I think if, you know, it's

interesting because, you know, it's hard because

I don't know comic readers like I know film audiences.

I'll just say this. If this, if there was a film

of this, verbatim, you know, word for word, and

the characters were the same. I would have a

hard time recommending it to people, because

these characters are not very likable. They are

despicable, they just relish in their brokenness,

and that makes them just very egotistical, it

makes them very prideful, they're very defensive.

And that's what I love about them. Like, it delves

into a truth and a reality as it relates to family

and relationships that is very potent and powerful

and very relatable. I know that I can certainly

relate in a way. Now, the events that unfold

in this comic thankfully have never happened

to me and my immediate family, but my extended

family, I have seen it in some very visceral

and real ways. And these characters, are, it's

like they're taken out of a page from my real

life. I've seen these kinds of characters before

and it's interesting to see Pat and Richie and

Tara in the aftermath of a tragedy, everyone

being haunted by the same thing and not knowing

how to cope with it. And the result is you get

these characters that are striving for something,

they are seeking and searching for something,

They and they just don't know what it is And

so they lash out every chance they get whether

it's their husbands or our wives or each other

You know doesn't really matter They are just

stuck and they don't know how to get out and

it's interesting because this is a volume one

So when you get to the end of it, there's no

Who they are which you know from a writing standpoint

I thought was Bryant because now Am hooked I

have to I have to get volume to I have to see

where this goes now interesting. I I was I was

hesitant because As I was reading back, I read

this when it came out monthly, and it's interesting

reading it within one volume. It's a much different

experience. And I did see that. These people,

I didn't notice as much in a monthly read just

how despicable and just miserable everyone is.

I thought it had like in my head, maybe I'm twisted.

I thought it had more of a bittersweetness to

it. I'm like, man, I gave JD a really depressing

book to read. So that was a little my like I

didn't that was an interesting aspect reading

it reading it this way But I do agree with you

though because it like I think by having the

representation of knowing where it's coming from

and essentially reading that first volume and

In the way it opens or the first issue should

say you have that narration and you're not sure

where it's coming from. And that's a technique

that I have a lot more fun with when it comes

to comics than you can when it comes to really

any other medium, because you have unreliable

narrators. But with comics, you can have a narrator

you don't know who it is, because there's no

voiceover. There's no indication in a novel where

it's indicating what's coming from. It's just

text on a screen. And you can associate it with

the character. But I think for me, where this

comic sold me was in the first issue, when you

kind of realize where that narration is coming

from and that And I don't know how I missed it,

but the supernatural twist that's kind of at

the end, I wasn't even realizing what was occurring

there. And that was one hesitation I had recommending

it was I was curious how the supernatural aspect

worked for you. Well, I will say, regarding the

ending, I'm curious as to where things are going

to go. Will admit that last page that last line

of dialogue. I'm not sure if I get it Or if I'm

supposed to I'm assuming the next Volume and

as the story evolves, it'll give answers to those

questions But I will say regarding the supernatural

element regarding can we say the character's

name or at least there's one character that's

heavily involved Sure, I will I'll give a spoiler

warning up front when it comes to this. So feel

free to spoil so when it comes to Tommy and his

involvement with Tara and Pad and Richie and

also the father and the mother characters here

as well. One thing I love about it is that there

is a mystery early on as far as who is Tommy?

How is he related to these people? Like, you

know, why does he look different each time that

I see him? But you don't even get maybe 40 %

of the way in. I don't even think you get even

to the halfway mark before it's basically out

there that this is a dead sibling or a dead son

to these parents. And I love how the comic doesn't

necessarily make it like a huge reveal. Like,

I got your moment. Like, it's nothing like that.

It just kind of lays it on the table and then

lets these characters. just kind of respond to

it. Now, there is a couple of times where the

reaction of these characters from a physical

standpoint, like you see them wide -eyed and

shocked that they're seeing this presence, at

least with Pat and maybe the first time, when

the father character first responds to the radio

and he hears the voice. There's a couple of times

where it's like, oh my God, but for the most

part, once he enters the picture, I love how

it's just kind of naturally integrated into these

characters because it's not so much about Tommy

physically being among these characters as much

as it is the haunting nature of him and how that

has an effect on all of these characters. That's

what I loved about the supernatural element is

it's an everyday occurrence and you come to understand

throughout the entire volume. Why he is a haunting

presence on all of these characters and how that

again causes rifts between all of them is Pretty

sounding stuff. It's it's fleshed out in a way

that I found you know quite remarkable You know

and it's interesting because you know going back

to what you're saying about home how depressing

this can be. There was a film that came out last

year that I hated, absolutely hated, and people

loved and raved about. It's called Lady Macbeth.

And the reason I hated it and why I would compare

the two is that Lady Macbeth is also very depressing.

Characters are unlikable throughout the entire

thing. But there was nothing in that film that

grounded me with those characters emotionally

that... kind of earned that despicableness. I

just found them to be loathsome and nothing thematically

riveting about it. Where in Royal City, I do

think there's a pathos to these characters. And

I think overall, the writing of them immerses

me into their psyche. And I'm able to understand

why they're making The decisions they are and

I do think they're not always bad people There

are times where they are doing endearing things

as well. And to me they're just so fully fleshed

and fully realized in a way that Makes me want

to root for them despite their brokenness if

that makes sense I think though the way that

Tommy represented I think the way he is depicted

within the visions of all these characters also

gives you a lot of kind of where they're coming

from and often recontextualizes who those people

are especially reading this again in the first

few pages you can see obviously the way they're

seeing him and is it says a lot about who they

are and where they are in their lives and yes

either if it's a guilt aspect of it if it's if

it's a want if it's a selfish need it's all kind

of there on the page and you can see Lumiere

is, like I mentioned with Essex County, there's

not much more. He's not a very wordy type of

person when it comes to comic telling. In a way,

I often relate him to Richard Linklater. Richard

Linklater often is very dialogue driven, but

more so in the simplicity of the stories he's

telling, where they're not really plot heavy

per se. You're just kind of slice of life type

of situations. And this is similar to that. Obviously,

there's a little bit more to it regarding kind

of the context and the... The idea behind it

then you know your typical like you know everyday

life type of situation But I just think that

he's it's often very character driven And I think

that's really the key sir because you have multiple

characters you do kind of have a main character

but all of them kind of play a distinct role

and I think he is able to kind of provide you

an insight to them all and although they have

all those problems that we talked about there's

at least Context for where it's coming from where

you do have some element of sympathy sympathy

or understanding outside of you know Having a

relative that had some sort of tragic ending

There's there's a curiosity. I guess that kind

of comes to my mind Yeah, absolutely. And I think

one of the the driving forces for me and all

of this as well is the illustration by Lemire

I think he did the illustration himself and there's

a a starkness to this setting that I think amplifies

the emotions and the reality among them as well

that I found really interesting. I mean, this

is a very industrialized town. Its history is

rooted in manufacturing. But of course, it takes

place, I think, close to the modern age. And

so you have this town. that a hundred years ago

was thriving and now it's struggling to survive

and you see that in the animation as well. I

think he does a great job of supplanting, you

know, the kind of bare aesthetics that I think

kind of couple with these characters and what

they're feeling and experiencing as well. I thought

the animation... and i don't know like again

i'm not an expert in terms of how the the the

drama happens it is in terms of quality but i

will say this visually i think it's pretty striking

on occasion there's some great uses of symbolism

here that i think is great but again just in

terms of the color palette how dark and gritty

it is and again the starkness of this whole town

is a great vision where we find these characters

and that certainly helped yeah and that was actually

a question i was going to bring up because Lumiere's

art style is it's divisive like I personally

love it, but I know a lot of people there There

is a roughness to it It's not very clean if a

lot of people who like you're if you're used

to more of a Marvel house or DC house style that

have very clean lines It's very you know that

it's the ink specifically where they're almost

like a rough sketch with some color But I feel

it really correlates to the stories he's telling

and what's what's little weird though with this

is that more often when it comes to like the

Lumiere writes and draws some of his stuff sometimes

he's just a writer but when he usually when he

does his drawings it's more often it's black

and white like Essex County it's all black and

white and I feel it's it's actually more effective

that way but I get why he did it here because

I think color does play a part especially just

in the setting aspect of it especially the the

final chapter the first the first volume where

you can get that the specific panel of the one

character said Driven down the middle where you're

seeing its adolescent self and his current self

and I think without them without color It would

not have been as effective, but it's also very

very muted almost watercolor esque just kind

of a small You know, it's not it doesn't really

overstates welcome It's just kind of there and

it has the right punch to it, but it's not necessarily

I'm gonna really jump off the page Yeah, I completely

agree and you know this kind of funny though

that you talk about how it almost looks like

an unfinished product because when I'm sitting

here and looking at some of these images in some

ways it kind of looks like how I would do it

where it's not fully colored in. Sometimes it's

not in the lines 100%. And so it's like, it does

look a little grizzled in that way. But as we're

talking about, I do think there's a lot of intentionality

behind that, especially in the color palette

that he does choose and how overall the aesthetic

of what we see on the page, it's meant to be

a mirror representation of the brokenness of

these characters. So seeing an unfinished product,

seeing a broken image if you will, I think was

very appropriate. I think what Lemire also really

is great at is using limited, very few lines

that tell a lot of emotion with his facial expressions.

He's really great at face acting and that's something

I... as a comic reader I'm getting to learn more

and more is what really differentiates the really

great writers with you know the really good writers

is that ability to do that. It's a lot harder

than I think I realized at first but going through

some of these you can really see especially in

the panels where you legitimately have like your

side panels where you know it's just that difference

of emotion where you know it's easy to do high

you know that person looks surprised or happy,

but kind of a longiness or something of that

nature where that's a really hard motion to really

depict. But I think he's really good at really

getting that across without it being too obvious.

I agree. Yeah, absolutely. Those facial expressions.

especially given that this isn't, again, I have

no context to compare it to, but it didn't feel

cumbersome in terms of the dialogue between these

characters. There is a lot of visual storytelling

that's going on here, which again, I think is

why the drawing and that aesthetic we're talking

about is important. But beyond the startness

of the setting, the facial expressions on the

characters, it's a crucial element. of this volume,

at least, because there is dialogue, and the

dialogue I do find compelling, but equally as

striking to me is how he draws these characters

and how they're emoting. And I do find it evocative,

especially with Pat and how shocked he is at

first when he comes across Tommy, or later on

when he's being haunted at, I guess it's like

a diner and he's trying to write, and he just

cannot He just can't overcome it. Or later on,

he finds himself, I guess, at a pond or something

of this sort. And again, while the dialogue I

think is great, the way Pat is drawn, the emotion

we see on his face, I think, you can strike out

the dialogue and still completely understand.

Yeah, yeah, and and they kind of put some additional

context into this because the context you wouldn't

have is I think this is really coming from a

personal place for Jeff Loomier because as I

mentioned like he broke out with the story Essex

County became like the next big writer and he

kind of he started writing for DC and Marvel

and kind of going the superhero route but you

could tell like like even when he was doing good

work especially for me like when he got into

Marvel and he was starting doing some X -Men

titles he kind of lost his personality a little

bit I think some people you got started questioning.

I think you know is is he kind of done? Is he

not we was is he is that's the county his big

hit and I think he's gotten back to a lot of

personal work He's spoken out basically against

like he's had some good stuff from Marvel and

DC I don't I want to say it that he hasn't but

he's best when he's kind of in control of what

he's doing and I think this is very much like

a struggle that is playing out in these pages

because Partially doesn't want to go back to

what he did before he wants to prove himself

But also I think there's some comfort there,

too so I think And this can mean me be reading

into it, but I sure certainly think there's some

some meta text into this as well that really

gets into the struggles of him as a writer and

What he's been going through is because he this

is coming from I think a very much a similar

place to where he's from Canada It's a industrial

town similar to this maybe in better luck, but

it's very homely and kind of heartfelt, not of

America, but of Canada, I guess. But again, there's

a lot of, these are characters that I feel like

Jeff Lemire characters, and this felt like a

book where he was getting back to what he does

best. He does some great others, like Black Hammer

for Dark Horse, which is kind of like a throwback

superhero story, but I definitely think there's

some things he's working out in this, which I

felt was effective. Oh, yeah. Again, without

knowing that context that you just provided,

I could tell that this was something intimate

to him. There's a lot of care, a lot of put into

the telling of these phrase and how these characters

are represented. And again, these characters

are not likable. You're not going to love them.

At the same time, there's a lot of truth and

humanity behind them that makes it very powerfully.

And that certainly comes across in the artwork,

but also the writing of him and just the storytelling.

It's impressive. And again, I don't know what

called it is because we're bouncing around between

several different characters, right? You have

the dad beginning and then he's in the hospital

for a lot. We have their care. Then there's Tara

and Pat and Richie and... through a lot of this

story they're off on their own doing their own

things and every now and then they'll have you

know panels together where they're conversing

but you have several different storylines here

that are individual and are evolving on their

own and I think the way he bounces around and

keeps everything cohesive while maintaining that

pathos is very impressive and I think a lot of

that is simply rooted in the path that he has.

These characters definitely definitely so I'm

super excited I always get worried when I wouldn't

recommend something of this nature because it's

like this is kind of why I'm doing this entire

project is to see you know if people would enjoy

this or not and it is interesting because a lot

of you know you're talking about not knowing

the terminology but what I'm what I'm finding

out when it comes to comics a lot of the Terminology

when it comes to film is very it's very similar

when you hear people speak of them It's those

don't even specifically say you know where they're

putting the camera even though it's not necessarily

a camera. It's or editing in the sense of the

panel layout, that very much affects pacing and

things of that nature. So it's a, they're medium

that I think cross along the storyboards, but

movie comics are more than storyboards, but you

see, I think, how, when it comes to visual storytelling,

there's a lot that kind of, they have in common,

so. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, anything else

you wanted to bring up? Well, what I actually

had a question for you, um, you know as I was

talking about there's Several different characters

and storylines going on here. Did you have a

particular favorite storyline? I guess the storyline

about the writer I guess would be our main character

is one that I would always gravitate towards

the most just because obviously he's our He's

our window or into this world because he's kind

of experiencing things similar to the way we

are Yeah, but I just felt that I guess I related

to this story the idea of like doing something

great and then Having that trying having people

expect certain things of you Like that was I

don't know not the strongest but the one I yeah

related to the most Yeah, I certainly agree.

I think the character of Pat well in a lot of

ways he is the voice of reason at times I think

the reason that I under the reason I sympathize

with him the most is because I feel like his

personality is more my personality than the other

two but I will say I know a lot of Richie there

are a lot of Richie's in my family in particular

that do not struggle with tragedy very well they

just simply cannot cope and they resort to the

same tactics that Richie does so I know a lot

of Richie's and It was fascinating to see how

that character, you know, continued to progress.

Tara, on the other hand, I struggle. I struggle

with her. There's not much for me to grab onto

with her character. And again, I think a lot

of that is very purposeful. And I do think you'll

start to see her storyline crystallize and. More

enduring ways as the story goes on in the next

volumes, but in this particular one that we're

discussing There's not much positivity to her

character that I could relate with And I and

I found myself honestly rooting against her a

lot of the time But it did make for an interesting

juxtaposition though because with Pat I was very

much the opposite I was Sympathizing with him

I could feel this haunting presence that is just

illuminating over him. He doesn't know how to

cope with it. And maybe it's because he's a writer.

And so he's an artist. He's a creator. And that

is kind of my cup of tea more so than being a

real estate agent. So I think Pat and I just

have similar qualities. But it is interesting

how all three of them are distinctly. Yeah. And

I think to go back to the the terror character

and I think what would help me with her and what

has me interested is when it comes to how her

relationship with Tommy and like it just makes

me wonder kind of because we we don't have a

clear as a clear picture of you know her relationship

like to him as we do some of the other characters

and why she kind of views him the same way she

does, which I feel like within that, it made

me feel like there was a motherly quality to

her that we're not seeing for a specific reason

or something of that nature, like where that's

coming from. So that has me interested, but I

do agree where she's not necessarily someone

you're going to root for. She's pretty vicious

and cutthroat in a little bit. Like you get,

she has desires, but if you feel like, wow, I...

You can peel back a little bit. I mean, yeah,

there are people behind your actions that you're

making here. Yeah. And that's why I'm very eager

to see what is in store for her in volume two,

because there isn't much to her to grab on to

with her character. But there are teases, as

you're saying, but there is an older sister or

motherly instinct that is there. And it's interesting

to see how Tommy is depicted in the sequences

because he is. like a little kid and and so there's

kind of an innocent nature to it and it kind

of makes you wonder what happened with that relationship

or like why is he depicted that way or is there

more to that story that we're not being told

yet which is why I'm I'm eager to see what happens

with our character in the next volume. Yeah,

and the one one character we haven't really talked

about was the mother and She probably probably

has the least amount of not screen time, but

but page time I guess you would say yeah, and

she was often she was kind of rough around the

edges as well though Yeah, specifically considering

what you kind of learn about her and the actions

she was taking I do wonder if Lumiere's gonna

give them a little bit more as the volumes go

on to make them a little bit stronger of characters

or at least give them something beyond the harshness

of their actions. Yeah. I know it kind of makes

me wonder if his relationship with his own mom

in real life or if he has a sister if it's just

not very good because the female characters here

are just not the most friendly of characters

to be around and you certainly see where Tara

gets that ruthlessness from because her mom is

very much the same in a lot of ways and yeah

I mean there's a revelation with the mom character

that kind of breaks your heart near the end as

well so yeah I certainly want to see where Where

this goes for sure awesome great as as we're

recording this a second volume should be coming

out soon But the other piece of this lately that

I like to do at the end is based upon your reactions

Give you an idea of where you can also go next

Obviously volume 2 is there and I mentioned Essex

County as well, but I think another Big comic

that was one of my favorites last year that you

might find intriguing Which is one you'd probably

have to track down at your local library Which

I highly recommend because I spend way too much

time at libraries is this a novel called the

hunting the hunting incident Accident I should

say that it centers on again a father -son story

maybe I need to expand my thought process when

it comes to recommendations for you JD, but Yeah,

it's interesting because it takes place well

it takes place in two time periods and the 50s

and the 20s, I believe, but it's a story of a

father basically kind of telling his son a secret

is revealed and he kind of explains what happened

and it centers on this, the father's blind and

the reasons behind why he's blind are questionable

and it kind of unfolds and you kind of see the

relationship. It has a lot of different aspects

to it. Also, it's a gorgeous book. The reason

it comes up, because I think artistically it...

Does share share some common elements Tim LaMire.

It's it's different when it comes to layout as

a comic. It's not as a basic not basic but It's

a more freeform in in the sense of it doesn't

have the the specific grid style, but it's easy

It's easy to follow. It's quite a good good book

and I get off I can see it becoming a movie sometime

soon Okay, so but there's a lot look forward

to when it comes to all the comics, so Yeah,

absolutely. I'll be sure to check those out.

Well, I'd like to thank you again for coming

on here. And if people want to, you know, listen

to your podcast or hear more from you, how could

they do that? Yeah, so you can go to InSessionFilm

.com. That's the easiest way to find us there.

You can find links to our show on iTunes, Stitcher.

As of the time we are recording this, we've recently

been added to Spotify, which is really fun. So

you can check us out there. You can find links

to our social media, Facebook, Twitter, Google

+, and really everything. You need to know about

us is there on the website and you can listen

directly on the website And again, that's in

session film. I definitely check out JD stuff

in JD's podcast What you've been around for four

or five years now even you've been yeah since

2013 that was our first year. So yeah, we're

rounding out Year five as of the time we are

recording this Yes, that's great. That's insane.

But definitely check out JD's Kevin and I have

both been on the podcast a couple of times talking

different things Most recently I was on Justice

League for a few months ago. Enjoy that podcast

But thanks again for coming on spending the time

reading comic. Glad you enjoyed it and Have you

on again next time or another time? Appreciate

it, man. Absolutely. Thank you Well, that brings

us to the end of this week's episode. Thanks

you again for listening Thank you to JD for joining

us today Join us next week as I talk to Kevin

Optimus solo Thompson my fellow cinema geek about

the comic 16 on 2 but until then thanks for listening

and remember Comics are for everyone. The key

is just finding the right one