The Comic Concierge
Interview with JD Duran on Royal City Vol. 1

About this Episode
This is Jason David Frank and you're listening
to the Geek Cash Radio Network. Hello everyone,
Dan here. Thank you for joining us on another
episode of the Comic Concierge Podcast. Today
is another Concierge episode where I sit down
and speak with someone regarding a book I recommended
for them based on their interest in other media
like TV, movies, books and more. Today I'll be
speaking with JD Duran of the Incession Film
Podcast on the comic Royal City by Jeff Flamir.
It was a great conversation and really enjoyed
having it with JD. And I did want to give the
warning upfront, though, that there are some
audio problems with this episode. You'll notice
it here and there, but overall, I still think
it's worth a listen. And I thank you again for
downloading. We do get into some slight spoilers,
very, very little. But if you're someone who
likes to know nothing about a comic before going
into it or anything that you experience, you
may want to read it first and then come back
and listen. But nothing major. Some plot elements
are discussed. Anyways, on with the show. Hello
and welcome to the Comics Concierge Podcast,
where we believe the comics are for everyone
the key is finding the right one. based upon
their interest in other fields, recommend a comic,
we'll talk about that comic and have some fun
doing it. But today I want to welcome our guest,
JD Duran. You know him from the Incession Film
Podcast, the wonderful film podcast that you
can find in IncessionFilm .com. You can listen
to their weekly reviews along with their bonus
episodes on Thursdays, which are often my favorite
because that's when you get into the nitty gritty
films that I don't hear about. But JD, thanks
for coming on. Hey, thanks for having me down
very glad to be here. Thank you. Thank you. Yes,
so JD I like to start off with talking to my
guest about the world of comics and As many anyone
would know that you're you know, you're a fan
of a film but getting into this What is your
experience with the meaning of comics? Have you
read any before or have you any interest in reading
any comics? Yeah, so I've certainly had interest
in comics It's been kind of off and on over the
years when I was younger in high school Until
I'm in middle school, I would delve into some
Marvel comics. Now, I couldn't tell you which
ones or which issues. I wasn't very much an amateur
in that. But whatever ones I could get my hands
on, I did enjoy. I know almost all kids you kind
of grow up watching the cartoons and you love
that and you start to Do research and wonder
the origins of these characters. And so, you
know, I would certainly read a few comics You
know from time to time in particular spider -man
because he was my favorite character growing
up and as I got older I started to get a little
bit more into Transformers comics with IDW especially
as the films Uh started to come out. I really
dug a lot of what they were writing in relation
to the films or just other transformers storylines
That they were writing at that time So were you
into the the cartoon before the comics or the
comics get you into transformers? Yeah, the cartoon
for sure came first and I loved it. I mean grew
up watching Transformers It was my favorite TV
show as a little kid So, you know always certainly
excited for the films because of that but similar
to what I was saying about Marvel that's kind
of Getting interested in the lore in the cartoon,
you know wondering and wanting to spend more
time with those characters. It's kind of transitioned
to a different medium in this case with with
comics as well, and started to delve into that.
And once I started in Session Film, things got
a little bit busier. So since then, it's been
harder to find a time to delve into comics a
little bit more, which is why I am really eager
to be here. This was a great excuse to dive into
a comic that's one, not Transformers, not Marvel,
but something completely different, which was
a new experience for me. Yeah, yeah, I'm cuz
I know going into this I know your fascination
with Transformers the property in the movies
or some of the movies and your government of
some of the Marvel properties but that's why
the comic that Recommended to you royal city
the one I the reason I thought about this I try
to took you know the sensibilities that I know
that what you enjoy when it comes to film and
I know you're a big fan of things that often
deal with family and relationships and Ideally,
honestly, I would love you to read Essex County,
which is Jeff Lemire's first really big work.
But it's gigantic. It's a huge book. It's an
easy read, honestly, because there's not a great
deal of dialogue, but it's effective. But it's
also hard. You kind of have to get the physical
copy of it and stuff like that. But Jeff Lemire
is, to me, probably, honestly, one of my favorite
writers. And I think he's really good at depicting
human drama. So that's why I went with rural
city because it very much is in the human drama
realm It's it doesn't necessarily have the better
sweetness of Essex County But there's also kind
of an interesting like meta super supernatural
element along with the idea of him talking about
writing, which I know you often like movies about
movies. So this is kind of a comic about writing
as well. So I figured to kind of hit some of
the ticks of what you enjoy about film. So I
thought that would be something within here outside
of the realm of Transformers or Marvel or superheroes
that might explore at what also comics have to
offer in the more whole storytelling realm. So
with that said. I was curious to hear what you
thought about real city volume one. Yeah You're
absolutely right real city was a comic and at
least fundamentally that is so up my alley because
you're right It's dealing about drama It's family
and relationships and They're very messy. There
is something driving a lot of that Ultimately,
you know the thing that I responded to the most
about this this whole volume is that it delves
into just how broken these characters are. And
the writing of this comic does not hold back
in any sort of way. I think if, you know, it's
interesting because, you know, it's hard because
I don't know comic readers like I know film audiences.
I'll just say this. If this, if there was a film
of this, verbatim, you know, word for word, and
the characters were the same. I would have a
hard time recommending it to people, because
these characters are not very likable. They are
despicable, they just relish in their brokenness,
and that makes them just very egotistical, it
makes them very prideful, they're very defensive.
And that's what I love about them. Like, it delves
into a truth and a reality as it relates to family
and relationships that is very potent and powerful
and very relatable. I know that I can certainly
relate in a way. Now, the events that unfold
in this comic thankfully have never happened
to me and my immediate family, but my extended
family, I have seen it in some very visceral
and real ways. And these characters, are, it's
like they're taken out of a page from my real
life. I've seen these kinds of characters before
and it's interesting to see Pat and Richie and
Tara in the aftermath of a tragedy, everyone
being haunted by the same thing and not knowing
how to cope with it. And the result is you get
these characters that are striving for something,
they are seeking and searching for something,
They and they just don't know what it is And
so they lash out every chance they get whether
it's their husbands or our wives or each other
You know doesn't really matter They are just
stuck and they don't know how to get out and
it's interesting because this is a volume one
So when you get to the end of it, there's no
Who they are which you know from a writing standpoint
I thought was Bryant because now Am hooked I
have to I have to get volume to I have to see
where this goes now interesting. I I was I was
hesitant because As I was reading back, I read
this when it came out monthly, and it's interesting
reading it within one volume. It's a much different
experience. And I did see that. These people,
I didn't notice as much in a monthly read just
how despicable and just miserable everyone is.
I thought it had like in my head, maybe I'm twisted.
I thought it had more of a bittersweetness to
it. I'm like, man, I gave JD a really depressing
book to read. So that was a little my like I
didn't that was an interesting aspect reading
it reading it this way But I do agree with you
though because it like I think by having the
representation of knowing where it's coming from
and essentially reading that first volume and
In the way it opens or the first issue should
say you have that narration and you're not sure
where it's coming from. And that's a technique
that I have a lot more fun with when it comes
to comics than you can when it comes to really
any other medium, because you have unreliable
narrators. But with comics, you can have a narrator
you don't know who it is, because there's no
voiceover. There's no indication in a novel where
it's indicating what's coming from. It's just
text on a screen. And you can associate it with
the character. But I think for me, where this
comic sold me was in the first issue, when you
kind of realize where that narration is coming
from and that And I don't know how I missed it,
but the supernatural twist that's kind of at
the end, I wasn't even realizing what was occurring
there. And that was one hesitation I had recommending
it was I was curious how the supernatural aspect
worked for you. Well, I will say, regarding the
ending, I'm curious as to where things are going
to go. Will admit that last page that last line
of dialogue. I'm not sure if I get it Or if I'm
supposed to I'm assuming the next Volume and
as the story evolves, it'll give answers to those
questions But I will say regarding the supernatural
element regarding can we say the character's
name or at least there's one character that's
heavily involved Sure, I will I'll give a spoiler
warning up front when it comes to this. So feel
free to spoil so when it comes to Tommy and his
involvement with Tara and Pad and Richie and
also the father and the mother characters here
as well. One thing I love about it is that there
is a mystery early on as far as who is Tommy?
How is he related to these people? Like, you
know, why does he look different each time that
I see him? But you don't even get maybe 40 %
of the way in. I don't even think you get even
to the halfway mark before it's basically out
there that this is a dead sibling or a dead son
to these parents. And I love how the comic doesn't
necessarily make it like a huge reveal. Like,
I got your moment. Like, it's nothing like that.
It just kind of lays it on the table and then
lets these characters. just kind of respond to
it. Now, there is a couple of times where the
reaction of these characters from a physical
standpoint, like you see them wide -eyed and
shocked that they're seeing this presence, at
least with Pat and maybe the first time, when
the father character first responds to the radio
and he hears the voice. There's a couple of times
where it's like, oh my God, but for the most
part, once he enters the picture, I love how
it's just kind of naturally integrated into these
characters because it's not so much about Tommy
physically being among these characters as much
as it is the haunting nature of him and how that
has an effect on all of these characters. That's
what I loved about the supernatural element is
it's an everyday occurrence and you come to understand
throughout the entire volume. Why he is a haunting
presence on all of these characters and how that
again causes rifts between all of them is Pretty
sounding stuff. It's it's fleshed out in a way
that I found you know quite remarkable You know
and it's interesting because you know going back
to what you're saying about home how depressing
this can be. There was a film that came out last
year that I hated, absolutely hated, and people
loved and raved about. It's called Lady Macbeth.
And the reason I hated it and why I would compare
the two is that Lady Macbeth is also very depressing.
Characters are unlikable throughout the entire
thing. But there was nothing in that film that
grounded me with those characters emotionally
that... kind of earned that despicableness. I
just found them to be loathsome and nothing thematically
riveting about it. Where in Royal City, I do
think there's a pathos to these characters. And
I think overall, the writing of them immerses
me into their psyche. And I'm able to understand
why they're making The decisions they are and
I do think they're not always bad people There
are times where they are doing endearing things
as well. And to me they're just so fully fleshed
and fully realized in a way that Makes me want
to root for them despite their brokenness if
that makes sense I think though the way that
Tommy represented I think the way he is depicted
within the visions of all these characters also
gives you a lot of kind of where they're coming
from and often recontextualizes who those people
are especially reading this again in the first
few pages you can see obviously the way they're
seeing him and is it says a lot about who they
are and where they are in their lives and yes
either if it's a guilt aspect of it if it's if
it's a want if it's a selfish need it's all kind
of there on the page and you can see Lumiere
is, like I mentioned with Essex County, there's
not much more. He's not a very wordy type of
person when it comes to comic telling. In a way,
I often relate him to Richard Linklater. Richard
Linklater often is very dialogue driven, but
more so in the simplicity of the stories he's
telling, where they're not really plot heavy
per se. You're just kind of slice of life type
of situations. And this is similar to that. Obviously,
there's a little bit more to it regarding kind
of the context and the... The idea behind it
then you know your typical like you know everyday
life type of situation But I just think that
he's it's often very character driven And I think
that's really the key sir because you have multiple
characters you do kind of have a main character
but all of them kind of play a distinct role
and I think he is able to kind of provide you
an insight to them all and although they have
all those problems that we talked about there's
at least Context for where it's coming from where
you do have some element of sympathy sympathy
or understanding outside of you know Having a
relative that had some sort of tragic ending
There's there's a curiosity. I guess that kind
of comes to my mind Yeah, absolutely. And I think
one of the the driving forces for me and all
of this as well is the illustration by Lemire
I think he did the illustration himself and there's
a a starkness to this setting that I think amplifies
the emotions and the reality among them as well
that I found really interesting. I mean, this
is a very industrialized town. Its history is
rooted in manufacturing. But of course, it takes
place, I think, close to the modern age. And
so you have this town. that a hundred years ago
was thriving and now it's struggling to survive
and you see that in the animation as well. I
think he does a great job of supplanting, you
know, the kind of bare aesthetics that I think
kind of couple with these characters and what
they're feeling and experiencing as well. I thought
the animation... and i don't know like again
i'm not an expert in terms of how the the the
drama happens it is in terms of quality but i
will say this visually i think it's pretty striking
on occasion there's some great uses of symbolism
here that i think is great but again just in
terms of the color palette how dark and gritty
it is and again the starkness of this whole town
is a great vision where we find these characters
and that certainly helped yeah and that was actually
a question i was going to bring up because Lumiere's
art style is it's divisive like I personally
love it, but I know a lot of people there There
is a roughness to it It's not very clean if a
lot of people who like you're if you're used
to more of a Marvel house or DC house style that
have very clean lines It's very you know that
it's the ink specifically where they're almost
like a rough sketch with some color But I feel
it really correlates to the stories he's telling
and what's what's little weird though with this
is that more often when it comes to like the
Lumiere writes and draws some of his stuff sometimes
he's just a writer but when he usually when he
does his drawings it's more often it's black
and white like Essex County it's all black and
white and I feel it's it's actually more effective
that way but I get why he did it here because
I think color does play a part especially just
in the setting aspect of it especially the the
final chapter the first the first volume where
you can get that the specific panel of the one
character said Driven down the middle where you're
seeing its adolescent self and his current self
and I think without them without color It would
not have been as effective, but it's also very
very muted almost watercolor esque just kind
of a small You know, it's not it doesn't really
overstates welcome It's just kind of there and
it has the right punch to it, but it's not necessarily
I'm gonna really jump off the page Yeah, I completely
agree and you know this kind of funny though
that you talk about how it almost looks like
an unfinished product because when I'm sitting
here and looking at some of these images in some
ways it kind of looks like how I would do it
where it's not fully colored in. Sometimes it's
not in the lines 100%. And so it's like, it does
look a little grizzled in that way. But as we're
talking about, I do think there's a lot of intentionality
behind that, especially in the color palette
that he does choose and how overall the aesthetic
of what we see on the page, it's meant to be
a mirror representation of the brokenness of
these characters. So seeing an unfinished product,
seeing a broken image if you will, I think was
very appropriate. I think what Lemire also really
is great at is using limited, very few lines
that tell a lot of emotion with his facial expressions.
He's really great at face acting and that's something
I... as a comic reader I'm getting to learn more
and more is what really differentiates the really
great writers with you know the really good writers
is that ability to do that. It's a lot harder
than I think I realized at first but going through
some of these you can really see especially in
the panels where you legitimately have like your
side panels where you know it's just that difference
of emotion where you know it's easy to do high
you know that person looks surprised or happy,
but kind of a longiness or something of that
nature where that's a really hard motion to really
depict. But I think he's really good at really
getting that across without it being too obvious.
I agree. Yeah, absolutely. Those facial expressions.
especially given that this isn't, again, I have
no context to compare it to, but it didn't feel
cumbersome in terms of the dialogue between these
characters. There is a lot of visual storytelling
that's going on here, which again, I think is
why the drawing and that aesthetic we're talking
about is important. But beyond the startness
of the setting, the facial expressions on the
characters, it's a crucial element. of this volume,
at least, because there is dialogue, and the
dialogue I do find compelling, but equally as
striking to me is how he draws these characters
and how they're emoting. And I do find it evocative,
especially with Pat and how shocked he is at
first when he comes across Tommy, or later on
when he's being haunted at, I guess it's like
a diner and he's trying to write, and he just
cannot He just can't overcome it. Or later on,
he finds himself, I guess, at a pond or something
of this sort. And again, while the dialogue I
think is great, the way Pat is drawn, the emotion
we see on his face, I think, you can strike out
the dialogue and still completely understand.
Yeah, yeah, and and they kind of put some additional
context into this because the context you wouldn't
have is I think this is really coming from a
personal place for Jeff Loomier because as I
mentioned like he broke out with the story Essex
County became like the next big writer and he
kind of he started writing for DC and Marvel
and kind of going the superhero route but you
could tell like like even when he was doing good
work especially for me like when he got into
Marvel and he was starting doing some X -Men
titles he kind of lost his personality a little
bit I think some people you got started questioning.
I think you know is is he kind of done? Is he
not we was is he is that's the county his big
hit and I think he's gotten back to a lot of
personal work He's spoken out basically against
like he's had some good stuff from Marvel and
DC I don't I want to say it that he hasn't but
he's best when he's kind of in control of what
he's doing and I think this is very much like
a struggle that is playing out in these pages
because Partially doesn't want to go back to
what he did before he wants to prove himself
But also I think there's some comfort there,
too so I think And this can mean me be reading
into it, but I sure certainly think there's some
some meta text into this as well that really
gets into the struggles of him as a writer and
What he's been going through is because he this
is coming from I think a very much a similar
place to where he's from Canada It's a industrial
town similar to this maybe in better luck, but
it's very homely and kind of heartfelt, not of
America, but of Canada, I guess. But again, there's
a lot of, these are characters that I feel like
Jeff Lemire characters, and this felt like a
book where he was getting back to what he does
best. He does some great others, like Black Hammer
for Dark Horse, which is kind of like a throwback
superhero story, but I definitely think there's
some things he's working out in this, which I
felt was effective. Oh, yeah. Again, without
knowing that context that you just provided,
I could tell that this was something intimate
to him. There's a lot of care, a lot of put into
the telling of these phrase and how these characters
are represented. And again, these characters
are not likable. You're not going to love them.
At the same time, there's a lot of truth and
humanity behind them that makes it very powerfully.
And that certainly comes across in the artwork,
but also the writing of him and just the storytelling.
It's impressive. And again, I don't know what
called it is because we're bouncing around between
several different characters, right? You have
the dad beginning and then he's in the hospital
for a lot. We have their care. Then there's Tara
and Pat and Richie and... through a lot of this
story they're off on their own doing their own
things and every now and then they'll have you
know panels together where they're conversing
but you have several different storylines here
that are individual and are evolving on their
own and I think the way he bounces around and
keeps everything cohesive while maintaining that
pathos is very impressive and I think a lot of
that is simply rooted in the path that he has.
These characters definitely definitely so I'm
super excited I always get worried when I wouldn't
recommend something of this nature because it's
like this is kind of why I'm doing this entire
project is to see you know if people would enjoy
this or not and it is interesting because a lot
of you know you're talking about not knowing
the terminology but what I'm what I'm finding
out when it comes to comics a lot of the Terminology
when it comes to film is very it's very similar
when you hear people speak of them It's those
don't even specifically say you know where they're
putting the camera even though it's not necessarily
a camera. It's or editing in the sense of the
panel layout, that very much affects pacing and
things of that nature. So it's a, they're medium
that I think cross along the storyboards, but
movie comics are more than storyboards, but you
see, I think, how, when it comes to visual storytelling,
there's a lot that kind of, they have in common,
so. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, anything else
you wanted to bring up? Well, what I actually
had a question for you, um, you know as I was
talking about there's Several different characters
and storylines going on here. Did you have a
particular favorite storyline? I guess the storyline
about the writer I guess would be our main character
is one that I would always gravitate towards
the most just because obviously he's our He's
our window or into this world because he's kind
of experiencing things similar to the way we
are Yeah, but I just felt that I guess I related
to this story the idea of like doing something
great and then Having that trying having people
expect certain things of you Like that was I
don't know not the strongest but the one I yeah
related to the most Yeah, I certainly agree.
I think the character of Pat well in a lot of
ways he is the voice of reason at times I think
the reason that I under the reason I sympathize
with him the most is because I feel like his
personality is more my personality than the other
two but I will say I know a lot of Richie there
are a lot of Richie's in my family in particular
that do not struggle with tragedy very well they
just simply cannot cope and they resort to the
same tactics that Richie does so I know a lot
of Richie's and It was fascinating to see how
that character, you know, continued to progress.
Tara, on the other hand, I struggle. I struggle
with her. There's not much for me to grab onto
with her character. And again, I think a lot
of that is very purposeful. And I do think you'll
start to see her storyline crystallize and. More
enduring ways as the story goes on in the next
volumes, but in this particular one that we're
discussing There's not much positivity to her
character that I could relate with And I and
I found myself honestly rooting against her a
lot of the time But it did make for an interesting
juxtaposition though because with Pat I was very
much the opposite I was Sympathizing with him
I could feel this haunting presence that is just
illuminating over him. He doesn't know how to
cope with it. And maybe it's because he's a writer.
And so he's an artist. He's a creator. And that
is kind of my cup of tea more so than being a
real estate agent. So I think Pat and I just
have similar qualities. But it is interesting
how all three of them are distinctly. Yeah. And
I think to go back to the the terror character
and I think what would help me with her and what
has me interested is when it comes to how her
relationship with Tommy and like it just makes
me wonder kind of because we we don't have a
clear as a clear picture of you know her relationship
like to him as we do some of the other characters
and why she kind of views him the same way she
does, which I feel like within that, it made
me feel like there was a motherly quality to
her that we're not seeing for a specific reason
or something of that nature, like where that's
coming from. So that has me interested, but I
do agree where she's not necessarily someone
you're going to root for. She's pretty vicious
and cutthroat in a little bit. Like you get,
she has desires, but if you feel like, wow, I...
You can peel back a little bit. I mean, yeah,
there are people behind your actions that you're
making here. Yeah. And that's why I'm very eager
to see what is in store for her in volume two,
because there isn't much to her to grab on to
with her character. But there are teases, as
you're saying, but there is an older sister or
motherly instinct that is there. And it's interesting
to see how Tommy is depicted in the sequences
because he is. like a little kid and and so there's
kind of an innocent nature to it and it kind
of makes you wonder what happened with that relationship
or like why is he depicted that way or is there
more to that story that we're not being told
yet which is why I'm I'm eager to see what happens
with our character in the next volume. Yeah,
and the one one character we haven't really talked
about was the mother and She probably probably
has the least amount of not screen time, but
but page time I guess you would say yeah, and
she was often she was kind of rough around the
edges as well though Yeah, specifically considering
what you kind of learn about her and the actions
she was taking I do wonder if Lumiere's gonna
give them a little bit more as the volumes go
on to make them a little bit stronger of characters
or at least give them something beyond the harshness
of their actions. Yeah. I know it kind of makes
me wonder if his relationship with his own mom
in real life or if he has a sister if it's just
not very good because the female characters here
are just not the most friendly of characters
to be around and you certainly see where Tara
gets that ruthlessness from because her mom is
very much the same in a lot of ways and yeah
I mean there's a revelation with the mom character
that kind of breaks your heart near the end as
well so yeah I certainly want to see where Where
this goes for sure awesome great as as we're
recording this a second volume should be coming
out soon But the other piece of this lately that
I like to do at the end is based upon your reactions
Give you an idea of where you can also go next
Obviously volume 2 is there and I mentioned Essex
County as well, but I think another Big comic
that was one of my favorites last year that you
might find intriguing Which is one you'd probably
have to track down at your local library Which
I highly recommend because I spend way too much
time at libraries is this a novel called the
hunting the hunting incident Accident I should
say that it centers on again a father -son story
maybe I need to expand my thought process when
it comes to recommendations for you JD, but Yeah,
it's interesting because it takes place well
it takes place in two time periods and the 50s
and the 20s, I believe, but it's a story of a
father basically kind of telling his son a secret
is revealed and he kind of explains what happened
and it centers on this, the father's blind and
the reasons behind why he's blind are questionable
and it kind of unfolds and you kind of see the
relationship. It has a lot of different aspects
to it. Also, it's a gorgeous book. The reason
it comes up, because I think artistically it...
Does share share some common elements Tim LaMire.
It's it's different when it comes to layout as
a comic. It's not as a basic not basic but It's
a more freeform in in the sense of it doesn't
have the the specific grid style, but it's easy
It's easy to follow. It's quite a good good book
and I get off I can see it becoming a movie sometime
soon Okay, so but there's a lot look forward
to when it comes to all the comics, so Yeah,
absolutely. I'll be sure to check those out.
Well, I'd like to thank you again for coming
on here. And if people want to, you know, listen
to your podcast or hear more from you, how could
they do that? Yeah, so you can go to InSessionFilm
.com. That's the easiest way to find us there.
You can find links to our show on iTunes, Stitcher.
As of the time we are recording this, we've recently
been added to Spotify, which is really fun. So
you can check us out there. You can find links
to our social media, Facebook, Twitter, Google
+, and really everything. You need to know about
us is there on the website and you can listen
directly on the website And again, that's in
session film. I definitely check out JD stuff
in JD's podcast What you've been around for four
or five years now even you've been yeah since
2013 that was our first year. So yeah, we're
rounding out Year five as of the time we are
recording this Yes, that's great. That's insane.
But definitely check out JD's Kevin and I have
both been on the podcast a couple of times talking
different things Most recently I was on Justice
League for a few months ago. Enjoy that podcast
But thanks again for coming on spending the time
reading comic. Glad you enjoyed it and Have you
on again next time or another time? Appreciate
it, man. Absolutely. Thank you Well, that brings
us to the end of this week's episode. Thanks
you again for listening Thank you to JD for joining
us today Join us next week as I talk to Kevin
Optimus solo Thompson my fellow cinema geek about
the comic 16 on 2 but until then thanks for listening
and remember Comics are for everyone. The key
is just finding the right one
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