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Marvel’s Luke Cage Season One Review

About this Episode
you I'm Mike and this is remote control season
passes and we're Doing another Netflix show.
The last Netflix show we did was daredevil season
one with my buddy Joe Reed and I Joe and I probably
gonna come back and do daredevil season two But
I have once again this week DJ Valentine from
simplistic reviews. Hello, sir. Sweet Christmas.
How you doing? No power man. You can't have any
coffee. I Really want coffee. I'm strung out
on coffee Okay, so the first thing is I Know
everybody's like, oh my god. Oh my god Netflix
new Marvel series. I have to watch it all right
now I can't I can't do that. I Still I still
have yet to watch Jessica Jones. It's not cuz
I don't want to it's just that I don't know like
I don't I know of Luke Cage I know of power So
that's why I was fine doing, you know watching
this series right after I watched air devil,
right? But I still just have not gone back to
Jessica Jones and I will eventually but I know
he shows up in that right? That's a good introduction
to him. Yeah, so I mean it's just one of those
things where I'm gonna have to go back to that
eventually and we'll do one of those episodes
anyway, so I was talking about Marvel's Luke
Cage and the whole coffee thing The first thing
I thought of... We start with coffee? We start
with coffee? We gotta start with the coffee because
we gotta get it out of the way. Let's go, coffee,
let's go. We gotta get the coffee out of the
way. The first thing I thought of, because as
I've said many times on all my podcasts, I have
been playing Grand Theft Auto for... Grand Theft
Auto 4, I should say, for at least eight years
since it released. And I remember in the San
Andreas days that the San Andreas game, if you...
did it properly, entered a certain code, entitled
hot coffee, that you could basically watch people
have sex with each other. Right, right. So watching
Luke Cage, the whole coffee thing, I'm like,
hey, this is Grand Theft Auto San Andreas all
over again. They stole their coffee idea from
Grand Theft Auto. I don't know if that makes
them worse or better. It's a good idea, actually.
I think they pull it off better. So Marvel's
Luke Cage, season one, 13 episodes. Like I said,
I had no previous notions. I had no previous
anything going into this because I think I've
seen, it's not Superhero Squad, which one was
it? There was a Marvel show recently where Power
Man was one of the. Oh, Avengers Assemble? It
might have been Earth's Mightiest Heroes or something
where I knew of Power Man before I had ever seen
this, and I knew of the character, I just didn't
know the whole story or whatever else. One of
my things is is if I don't know the character
I'll just essentially ignore the thing kind of
like with Jessica Jones It's not that I dislike
it. It's not that I am hating on it. I just have
no interest in it There is a huge difference
between disliking something before you see it
and just having no interest in trying it right
away Huge difference folks But Luke Cage, I knew
what I knew somewhat about it somewhat about
the character of power man that kind of thing
and what i didn't know and it took me about three
episodes watching this is holy shit i've seen
that guy halo no no this is no this is this is
actually kind of sad uh so mike colter we're
not gonna even in the cast just yet but mike
colter plays uh carl lucas aka luke cage in the
luke cage show And I'm looking at this guy and
he's all beefed up and bulked up and slightly
different looking like where have I seen this
guy before I know I've seen this guy before Turns
out he was So sad He was Malcolm Ward in 17 episodes
of the CW show ringer. He was a strong out Strong
out guy friend of mr. Michelle Gillers character
Bridget in the CW show Ringer from 2011 to 2012.
And I'm like, oh, like something in me. Like,
as soon as I look it up, I'm like, hey, that's
me. I know exactly who it is. So I'm like, oh,
awesome. Isn't Ringer that show that was supposed
to be like Revenge, but on the CW or something
like that? Well, Ringer was completely off -topic
at this point. But Ringer was a short -lived
one -season show on the CW. with Sarah Michelle
Gellar starring as twin sisters, Bridget and
Siobhan, and about how they can go back and forth
and exchange each other's lives and et cetera,
et cetera. At the beginning of the show, Siobhan
supposedly kills herself and Bridget takes her
life. So it's like orphan whack, right? Yes,
orange is the no -wack. Orange is the no -wack,
yes. Die I bite my tongue. I love Sarah Michelle
Gellar. I remember just seeing the posters of
that show and I was like How much do I love Sarah
Michelle? I was like not that much. So I never
once I Believe it's still on I think there's
only I think this is another debate, but I think
I think it's only Think I don't know Walter was
a strung out What was he a drug? He was a strung
out. What was he a bodyguard? What was he? No,
he was a He was a he was a fellow in a person
who used to be a drug addict Along with with
one of her characters. I swear this is still
on here I'm sure you can find it online. So Luke
Cage, Power Man, aka Luke Cage, this series,
when you first heard about this particular series,
was your reaction holy crap? I mean, my friend
is a huge, huge Luke Cage fan. He kind of introduced
me to Luke Cage and Black Panther respectively,
and I've become a huge Black Panther fan But
he is still like he was telling me everything
about Luke Cage He was like there was a comic
book issue where Luke Cage went to Latvia and
beat the crap out of dr Doom because dr Doom
owed him money He was like telling me all these
issues so I was kind of like oh they're making
a Luke Cage show and I was more happy because
I love iron fist and Heroes for hire is essentially
when iron fist and Luke Cage who are like besties
Team up and make their own superhero for hire
detective agency kind of thing And I was like,
well, this is a step in that direction. And I
liked that book. So I was happy. And I know you
haven't seen Jessica Jones. He is very good in
Jessica. He's maybe the standout, other than
probably David Tennant, who is, to me, I argue
the second best Marvel villain of all time. So
he's very good in that show. So when they told
me they're making their own series, and every
bit of news that came out from it sounded great
to me. Again the guy who? Who who did Southland
a very underrated show and he also did a couple
of wrote a couple episodes of NCIS Los Angeles
And he did Tori's big movie. I was okay. I like
this guy. I think his name is clee clee I can
never Cheo Hadari Coker, I think his name is
When he was in charge, okay, this is great I
get a good showrunner in there and they and they
told me Rosario Dawson was coming back and they're
gonna put misty night in it was another complicated
I was very Primed I wasn't daredevil like frantic
cuz daredevil gets in front of me. I have to
see it I must see it now. I was kind of like
alright. I'm really interested in what this What
this is because when I maybe two years prior
I wouldn't have cared at all about a Luke Cage
show I've been agents of shield kind of apathetic
to it where I was okay, whatever but Because
I didn't really like you're saying I didn't really
I Say I knew the character, but I didn't really
I'm not really in love with Luke Cage as a character
Daredevil, I love that character. Jessica Jones
has one of the most compelling origin stories
of any comic book character of all time. So Luke
Cage to me, it grew on me. It didn't grow on
me as much as Black Panther grew on me, but it
grew on me. So I was happy when it was coming
out and I was blown away after watching it. first
heard about I mean I knew of the character I
knew of the name Luke Cage but I remember now
where I first heard about power man yeah yeah
Ultimate Spider -man because it's it's it's him
and it's Spidey and Nova and that's where I first
heard about okay so I don't have the same connection
as you do and the sad thing is for me I know
this is gonna be horrible this is gonna tie back
into last week where you're talking about lethal
weapon I was waiting for Bruce Willis to show
up at the show with a sign on his back. With
a sight on his back? Sign on his back! I was
waiting for him to show up with a sandwich board
sign on. For anybody that doesn't know, Luke
Cage takes place in Harlem. The one thing that
I know we mentioned this last week and I know
I'm kind of do a gonna gonna do a flip -flop
here on Last week when we talk about the theme
song The opening montages for these shows are
great. The music is great. It stops. You can
choose to watch it if you want to. Yeah. If you
want to see, you don't binge, but if you binge
a Netflix show after maybe the third episode,
it'll just start the episode at the end of the
opening montage. You would have to actually choose
to play the whole thing. That's a good thing
that Netflix has built in so because they heard
you they heard you like somebody's gonna get
mad at this thing is so long Episode 8 somebody's
gonna get pissed off. So what is built in this
thing? Well, that must be That must be on the
actual website, because I use the website, but
I also use the Netflix, I assume it's a Windows
8 version app or whatever, but because I have
Windows 10, so I wanted an app for everything.
So I have a Netflix app, I have a Hulu app, I
have the CW app. So I watch most everything on
the Netflix app. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I do everything
official. I'm an official, I'm an official Netflix
user. Asshole! Excuse me. No, no, no, I am an
official Netflix user. We have the, no I'm just
joking, I have no idea. I have my pinkies. Will
you put your pinky down already? It is the official
Netflix app. Is that what they told you? They
told you from the Netflix. So Luke Cage season
one, I know a lot of people marathon these Marvel
shows. I can't. I just can't. It's not because
I don't like them. It's not because I'm too bored
with them. They're all wonderful, wonderful shows.
I have to watch two or three episodes at a time
throughout a period of three days So there's
13 episodes, you know You know if you want to
do some math on that to you know, three or four
episodes a day It takes me about five days to
watch a whole Netflix series because I have so
much other stuff I have to do like the ringer
like the ringer you have to watch with this Well
do that over summer when there was no television
Because let's face it not even though reruns
can save us now in summer So for me, I think
I I think I watched all of this series by Let's
see it released September 30th on Netflix. I
was done maybe Okay, I don't know somewhere October
7th. So it's not that bad about a week or so
Give or take a few days. Um, but I would watch
two or three episodes at a time and I really
really enjoyed what I saw. I liked how They built
it up. I wasn't so sure by episode four. I was
like I think I think episode four uh, I think
so Yeah, it gives us his origin of the Episode
four is uh step step in the arena. Yeah, well
trapped in the at least at least starts with
his origin a little bit in that episode. Yeah
Yeah, well, yeah Gives us the how he became sort
of and the prison scene and all that. So That
was their Shawshank. He's red. I get you I can
get you a harmonica If he's ready to do frame
Crawl through a river of shit came out with shades
By that point, I you know the first three episodes
I was hooked I was ready to go by the fourth
episode because they're trapped under the whole
building explosion because the rocket launch
I'm like, okay, that's where this is going We're
gonna get the backstory now and I started to
fade a little bit and then I came back to it
and I'm like, okay cool this is going well, this
is whatever and Think I forget which episode
it is that that he eventually gets killed off
but the episode where or cottonmouth Shot and
killed cottonmouth was beaten to death I Think
she just pushed him out of a window and then
he fell and then she gets the mic stand she might
drops him for about 10 minutes Wow There was
supposed to be an earth -shattering kaboom. Oh,
Marvin the Martian. But yeah, you're right. You're
right. She does push him up. So up until that
point, I'm like, OK, Cottonmouth is going to
be our big bad. He's going to be the one that
Luke has to go up against the whole 13 episodes.
At that point, when Mariah kills him, I'm like,
wait, so what now? And we'd been hearing about
this person dying back. Silence is a predator
kind of guy. up to that point this yeah yeah
and i'm like okay so cottonmouth gone who's gonna
take his place and obviously it's this whole
diamond backstory which ties back into luke's
story when he used to be carl lucas and everything
else and i was just kind of worried at first
and i know this is netflix and i shouldn't be
worried but i was really worried at first like
what kind of villain are they gonna shoehorn
in here now are they gonna you know bring in
like enchantress or something and screw it up
every other movie she's in. But sadly, not sadly,
luckily they didn't do that. They gave us Diamondback,
who apparently is Carl's half -brother, which
is interesting. I think what I love most about
this show, as it's gone along, is the fact that
Rosario - TV Coulson, TV Coulson, my caller.
... television universe for Netflix. She's great
Trust me. I am NOT crap and I was already awesome.
She's great Other than the fact that she is Like
the one of the most gorgeous women on walking
the freaking universe She is great on all of
these shows and I was angry when I first heard
her getting cast because I wanted to get cast
as echo Which is a character from the daredevil
comic books and they were like, oh, she's gonna
be this Claire Temple character I was like waste
of Rosario Dawson boy I was wrong about that
because she is great on all of these shows and
this role that on paper sounds like nothing But
if when you watch it in action, I don't know
how when she shows up. It's like a breath of
fresh air every single series Yeah, absolutely
She really, really is. And it's just so fun.
It really is. It's very, very fun to have her
around. And basically, you know. Why are you
hating on Colson? What did Colson do to you?
Well, that's not his fault. That's Perlmutter.
He should have stood dead. That's not him. Gotta
go back and try to watch that show again. Yeah,
you're fine You're okay. You don't either I mean
the season one screwed season two it gets better
But I can understand anybody dropping off a shield
but for as much as much as Marvel Carries around
the reputation Being like the safe. They don't
they don't do Risky things as they should make
it a movie called Ant Man was a risky thing make
it a movie called Guardians of the Galaxy was
risky Doctor Strange having Robert Downey jr.
As your flag bearer of your studio and now Luke
Cage, I think is gonna be remembered as the one
of the biggest risks when it's said and done
You have a show with like, not just a predominantly
African American cast that doesn't graze by,
they dive head first into Black Lives Matter
movement that's going on right now. A hero who
wears a costume, who he said, the actor said
he, Michael Coulter said it's an ode to Trayvon
Martin, all under the guise of like a black exploitation
show. That is, I mean, he was talking about risky.
That's pretty freaking risky. The showrunners
deserve a lot more credit for the balls they
have to have to make a show like this today.
I mean, back in the day, it would have been,
you know, it has been chalked about black exploitation.
Now we're kind of in the PC. I don't want to
talk about that. I don't want to talk about guys
kneeling at flags and stuff. And it's like Luke
Cage in your face. I'm wearing a hoodie. Talk
about cops brutality. All that stuff front and
center on a Marvel show. That's to me. way more
risky than I don't know having Batman kill people.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, this is a huge risk
and only Netflix would be, only a platform like
Netflix would be able to pull this off. And again,
Marvel going the route of using Netflix. Jessica
Jones was super risky. That's all about like
PTSD and survivors remorse, rape. I mean, that's,
I mean, I always hear that on Marvel's list,
antiseptic, you know, safe place. I'm like, are
you watching some of these shows? Oh, no. Yeah,
no, I've never said that Marvel's a safe place
never Because they do touch on a lot of different
things and I think with Netflix as that platform
Allows them to do that without really needing
to and again the difference here is Instead of
having to wait 13 weeks We can watch it all in
one day we can watch it in, you know I saw, I
went through Luke Cage in about a day and a half.
I got through Jessica Jones a little bit faster
than that, because I really like Jessica Jones,
but I can see it. That show is more, I think,
polarizing than I think Luke Cage is, because
of what the subject matter dealing with is very
dark. But Luke Cage, to me, it's just, there
are some problems I'm going to have with it,
and you brought it up. I think after Cottonmouth
goes That should have probably been the end of
season one. I just to make it tighter because
Diamondback seems like a season two villain I
think if they would have I know they didn't really
rush it and I know they were trying to he's kind
of connected to the Finishing of Luke Cage's
origin so they kind of had to have him there
but just because I Wanted more time with him.
It seems like if they would have just ended it
with cotton mouth because I love the Superman
Lex Luthor dynamic that Cottonmouth and Luke
Cage has, because I don't think Luke Cage touches
Cottonmouth this entire series. He doesn't lay
a finger on him. And that's kind of what Superman
Lex Luthor was, where it's kind of like, you
know, brain versus brawn. And I liked how Cottonmouth
always had like a, I liked that whole relationship.
And I think if it would just culminated with
that, you would have had an almost perfect series.
But because that Diamondback storyline kind of,
I don't say it was rushed. It was just, I wanted
it to be filled out more. That's kind of one
of the major things I didn't like about the show,
but I like the show overall, but that's just
one of the holes, the Jericho or Judas bullet
size holes that I think I can poke in the show.
Yeah. I mean, for me, you're right. Like I said,
I'm like, okay, well he's dead. Where are they
going to go from here? Are they going to turn
Miranda into the, you know, the mama or whatever
the mother's name is supposed to be? You know,
are they going to turn her into that character
or are they going to go a different direction
with her? And no, you then have the introduction
of more of Luke's backstory with, you know, his
whole family thing and the whole stepbrother
thing with... Diamond back aka striker and I
think what's gonna happen is they set this up
They set all the origin stuff up for the two
of them now and then season two they're gonna
do more with that like some sort of ultimate,
you know, like Right battle or something cuz
scientists guys lurking around them does recover
Of course Yeah, and and I think that's what's
gonna set up with Season two with what's gonna
happen and him him and Luke so I don't mind The
whole care the whole killing of a character change
and then bringing in more of Luke's, but I don't
mind that I just thought it was a little bit
of a new maybe but I think imagine if that was
the final episode Let's say you reposition some
of Luke's origin earlier and then have that be
the final episode where it's like and maybe Luke
Cage is on the run for Cottonmouth's murder and
you have to wait till season two that would have
been like what the fuck holy shit kind of ending
but they kind of kind of resolve it really I
think again I don't say fast it's just they resolve
it in such a way where I wish there was that
this felt like something that could have been
handled better if it was a season two you open
with Luke Cage on the run kind of thing But I
mean, the way that Marvel has their Netflix shows,
I'm not sure if season two of Luke Cage comes
before the defenders or after the defenders or
what? I have no idea. Again, like I said already,
I have to watch Jessica Jones, and then I'll
be caught up on all the stuff that they've done.
I believe, yes, Iron Fist is next, and then it's
the Defenders. I think I have to double check
that. And the thing that I'm worried about, I
heard a rumor earlier. Because Rosario Dawson
was just talking about her earlier how she's
in all of the Netflix shows She's in Jessica
Jones. She's in Lucas. She's an iron fist today
They allude that she's gonna be an iron fist
because she gets the the the martial arts flyer
thing at the end I think she might be the reason
the rumor was that she is going to be the reason
defenders get together and That reason is because
she dies and if that happens, I'm gonna be fucking
Heard and I hope to God it falls if they kill
her I mean it makes all the sense in the world
because she has at this point Will have known
all of the defenders personally. She knows Matt
who? When she's kissing up on Luca kind of made
me feel a little bad because I always wanted
her with Matt and I Luke in the comic books and
Jessica Jones have a they're like married and
with a kid so it's kind of like that weird for
me but yeah she knows Matt she knows Jessica
she knows Luke she's gonna know iron fist so
her getting killed off it would be a reason to
get it again I just hope to God it doesn't happen
they're going to be like do you want us not to
kill him? Marvel, Netflix, do not kill, come
on now. Not kill Jason Todd. Please, nobody call
that 900 number and vote to say yes. Kill him.
We've gotten so far off topic but anyway. it's
yeah so season one what i love about the marvel
shows is that it's a it's a full story is obviously
full story but it's a full story told to us that
we can watch on our time on our terms instead
of having like i said already having to wait
13 like you look at something like lethal weapon
or you look at any any network tell it doesn't
matter Game of Thrones a little different, it's
HBO, but whatever. You look at anything that's
on broadcast television, Flash, Supergirl, whatever,
you still have to wait until that next week to
find out what's happening next. With Netflix
shows, bam, they're all there. The future. The
future. You can watch them on your time when
you want. No commercials, thank God. Somebody
cute John Cena the time is no I agree with you
wholeheartedly. That's why I remember when Marvel
made this deal with Netflix God feels like forever
ago and I was like this is great because one
I was more happy because I knew at the time that
they're not gonna be beholden to censorship,
which means we're gonna get Darker heroes like
god bless him John Baranthos the Punisher, which
is one of the greatest things ever So we're gonna
get the Punisher. We're gonna get daredevil or
we're gonna get Daredevil we're not gonna get
we're gonna get the freaking Hell's Kitchen breaking
bones daredevil We're gonna get Jessica Jones
who's gonna be talking about her backstory and
not hiding tiptoeing around it because her backstory
I don't want to ruin it for you is dark as hell
and you could not put that on Brockett and they
try to put on ABC years back and I didn't know
how they were gonna do that because It is one
of again. I would say the dark Batman. Just look
at Batman like you're a pussy Your backstory
means nothing to my backstory. Not only did my
parents get murdered or died, that was before
I even had powers, okay? So yeah, get out of
here. So yeah, the fact that they put all these
shows on Netflix, I knew that we're gonna get
the actual versions of these characters without
any punches pulled. We're gonna get Luke Cage,
and we're gonna get blaxploitation Luke Cage.
We're gonna get that character. We're gonna get
Iron Fist, so we're gonna get Brutal which I
guess we'll talk about that later brutal martial
arts action sequences to the death We're gonna
get that stuff. So yeah, well sweet Christmas
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Thank you. On with the show. It's this series
this these first this first 13 episodes was just
so fun for me Like even though I've said I took
you know took my time true or three episodes
at a time every episode that I watch normally
when I You know watch something I put on my analytical
glasses and I plan to nitpick the hell out of
it Not because I don't like it, because I want
to be able to analyze something about it. I want
to be able to point out this moment or that moment
or how many times they actually said, let's go
get some coffee. I don't know what that number
is, but normally that's what I do. When I sit
down here to podcast, I go over every aspect
I most possibly with this. I was just sitting
back having fun, enjoying every minute of it.
There's nothing about the story, about the way
the plot has unfurled other than the whole villain
change. Other than that one thing. Is it episode
four or episode three? It must be episode four
when Luke is going around the town getting people's
stuff back. And I'm like, this just reminds me
of Shaft. This is like the old that I keep going
to blaxploitation. This is like one of those
blaxploitation montages with or the black dynamite
made fun of it. It's kind of like a black dynamite
moment where he's just going around and you had
never thought, you know, we're going to make
a blue cage show and we're going to model it
after blaxploitation. We're going to make a Captain
America movie. We're going to model after a spy
spy Robert Redford movie or whatever. It's just
that is. Don't say ingenious. I just like a really
interesting way to take it where it could have
been fumbled You know how bad Luke Cage could
have been it's very it's a very small margin
of you know error for a Luke Cage show Oh Could
have cast Damon way you could have cast the Old
Spice guy who was lobbying for the role for years
Isaiah Mustafa wanted to have this role for years
and they could have with that direction and it
would have been Not as good, because something
about Mike Holter, he's not like a super well
known, I mean, he's not the rock or something,
but just something like quiet confidence about
him where it's like, yeah, that's Luke Cage.
When I look at him, I buy him. Same thing about
Rosario. Every line of dialogue Rosario Dawson
says, you don't think it's a line and this feels
like it's really being said by this person. Like
I think she has a scene with Misty Knight in
the police station. And it's just like, it didn't
feel like acting to me. It just felt like she,
this is like Rosario Dawson would normally handle
this situation. She would just talk down to this
woman just like this, exactly like this. She
was saying things that I would think of saying
if I was in that situation. So yeah, that's the
way they mine their talent. They get these actors
in these shows that may be not as like super
or popular characters, but they embody these
characters so well. Absolutely. Halo is the only
thing I've seen them in before this. Grand Assault,
folks, it's Wiki. But looking at just as Wikipedia,
because IMDb, I'm sure, has more. Oh, yeah, he
wasn't. Fuck, I forgot about him in that. I forgot
all about that. If you've seen some of these
movies, you've seen him. Million Dollar Baby.
He was big, Willy Little. I kind of voiced that
movie for a long time. I have seen Salt, but
I've watched it. He was in Salt as the CIA tactical
leader from 2010. Wait, that's the father he
was in men in black. He was in men in black.
He was very skinny. He put some pounds on He's
like a chameleon this guy. This guy is Gary Oldman
in black three So that Gary I didn't say Gary
Coleman I said Gary Oldman no, I cannot do a
different strokes joke, dude. Come on now Oh
Commissioner go okay wait a second Last film
they list is zero dark 30. He was dev grew operator
operative Mike He was in various episodes he's
in one episode each of Law or criminal intent
in SVU. He was in the royal pains as officer
Tanner One of the episodes and Like I said, you
know Jessica Jones Luke Cage right before that
last year. He had agent X for eight episodes
I mean, he's one of those I guess he's just one
of those guys that's been working and we just
at least I have not even paid attention the first
time he ever like stood out to me was the halo
short film or whatever and I was like this guy's
pretty cool and then I heard he got cast as Luke
Cage I was like Okay, let me see what he does
and then when I saw once you see him in Jessica
Jones because of this show He's um the lead but
it's almost like the world revolves around him
He and we kind of see how he deals with certain
things And Luke and Jessica Jones their relationship
is just and I think they're trying to nail the
hell out of it because their relationship in
the comics is very very It's like the foundation
of their characters almost and it's very where
we're very very well done and he's very good
in that show They kind of make an illusion to
it in the end the Luke Cage show, but it is in
the show I like it somebody made a comment where
he's kind of like I Mean this with no further
disrespect or he's at the Black Captain America
where he's he's very like a decent dude and he
kind of reacts to how Indecent people are around
them with and he fights them with his decency
Because Luke Cage is not like, you know, he's
not he's not Matt Murdock that Murdock He doesn't
he has a different trade of thought that Murdock
is the closest you're gonna get to get a Batman
character in Marvel than anybody Luke Cage is
kind of like gonna do the right thing if it doesn't
that means it's gonna be coming at the cost of
himself He's gonna do that. And the only person
that reminded me of is Captain America. That
is a Captain America trait. On your left. Because
even Mackie's not like that. Mackie's like, look,
man. They're shooting at you. They're gonna shoot
at me. I ain't gonna be dead. And I love Mackie.
Mackie's amazing. But Mackie's a different character
than this blue cage. And Black Panther's, oh,
that's a, that's a, that's a. Yeah, exactly.
It's a whole other bag of cats Yes, and Sadly
all I can think of is that Facebook meme it's
going I have not but I Snuffle up against from
Seth Sesame Street where it's called sniffle
grab a puss Have you seen this It's essentially
just snuffle up against from Sesame Street draw
just drawn not colored with a yellow toupee on
top I'll have to show it to you, but all right,
so we're so far off So Luke Cage Absolutely loved
it. I thought it was so fun. The storytelling
is well done. The acting is it's a different
show. It's a noir Not that noir It's literally
black and white It's I always think of Leaving
Las Vegas because she's self -destructive Because
she's been through people like why she she's
just depressed and she's been through some shit
She's been through more shit than anybody you
name a Marvel character. I have not I'll put
her against anybody with terms of the shit she's
went through. So yeah, and the villain, David
Tennant on that show, I know we're talking about
Jessica Jones on the Luke Cage show, but Luke
Cage is a part of that show. David Tennant's
villain is frightening. Frightening in the fact
of I don't know how to defeat a person like that.
I mean, we talk about horror. making this during
October or whatever and talking about Halloween
characters and the person that scared me the
most was Freddy because I don't know how you
defeat that person. You can't, I have to go to
sleep eventually. Purple Man is a person that
can make you do whatever he wants by just saying
it. So how do you defeat that person? So it's
very scary. So, and the way, and Luke Cage is
central to that climax of that story. So yeah,
you might like it. but just be prepared it's
not it is not christmas and rainbows my friend
it is not sweet christmas and rainbows yeah what
i love about the luke cage series the first season
at this point is just how like We wonder why
in the first three episodes why he constantly
says I didn't ask for this. I didn't want this
I don't want to be a superhero. I'm not gonna
wear a costume you constantly ask yourself Why
is he saying all this stuff is he just trying
to be modest or is there something that happened?
and then you watch that fourth episode where
you have the The flashback of the prison and
how he got the powers and the whole procedure
to get him the powers and how he got out of You
know and then he just starts punching walls and
starts taking car doors to you know fend off
bullets and Just that's what I love is they Between
Daredevil and Luke Cage they do the superheroic
power the the powers abilities very well like
you know he's super strong you know he's not
you know in in in luke cage specifically you
see however they give them whatever the hell
i don't want to call it mutagen because it really
wasn't mutagen but this elixir this you know
super soldier formula whatever the hell you want
to call it whatever the hell they whatever the
hell that damn doctor gave him you know you see
how it Has made his skin cells his old body stronger
not just inside not just outside on the inside
as well because they have the whole scene with
Claire trying to Help him and she can't she can't
cut into him and that kind of thing and it's
just so interesting. It's just so fun Though
the soundtrack have we even talked about the
center of the show yet? Which is with I would
compare only to maybe Garry's of the gossi is
one of the best Marvel sound tracks of all time.
It's Mean every I think it's the guy politically
who's in the first episode. I think he Did all
the music he's from this group. If you don't
know called a tribe called quest which is Like
my childhood. I grew up on a tribe called quest.
So when I heard that I was like, oh my god I
must download soundtrack. I mean I was like a
robotic must download soundtrack Must have it
on person at all times. So yeah, the music on
the show and the musical acts are Great. I like
how they kind of incorporate the nightclub Into
these episodes Yeah, that's always fun it really
is because Harlem's paradise for the you know,
the majority of until cottonmouth dies That's
the central villain layer stage except it's it
operates as a legitimate business You know and
yeah, I mean That was just so compelling, having
these musical acts and having all this criminal
activity going on in the background. Essentially
having Cottonmouth and Miranda, or not Miranda,
Mariah, sorry, you know, their cousins, their
family. So again, I was waiting because Alfred,
whatever it is, she's an actress that always
plays those characters that most of the time
will have some sort of turn. and I oh yeah she
she always is and it's one of those things where
I was waiting for Mariah's turn like I was waiting
for her to turn to the darkness you know like
you're saying last week with rigs where we need
rigs on Fox's lethal weapon to be dark I was
waiting for her to do that she doesn't do that
which is interesting Makes me she she kind of
has a Michael Corleone type art where she kind
of doesn't want to be cottonmouth She wants to
be legitimate, you know, I'm not my family Claire,
you know Kate, you know, she's kind of that person
and then Like Michael at the hospital. He kind
of knows he sounds that he can flick the lighter
because he knows he was built He was made for
this. So when she starts doing her Creepy criminal
activities later in the series. It's kind of
like She's good at this. She doesn't want to
be this but this is what she was made to do being
a diabolical criminal so Right Yeah, that's very
very true It's just It's just so fun and just
so funny. I know a lot of people are like I know
one person that I had to Ask him how many episodes
he watched. He's like, oh, I watched the first
couple and it didn't really bring me in Attention
span it is a slow burn. I would say that the
show is a slow burn. It isn't like have that
inside their devil like the first episode they're
like he's fighting like a ninja in the parking
lot or something like that so yeah uh luke cage
that's why i say it feels like a blazeploitation
blazeploitation it kind of builds everything
builds to an inciting final confrontation which
i guess in this show is the street battle with
diamondback that's how that's how these shows
typically Or at least that genre typically worked
where it's like, you know one guy on one side
one guy the other fighting the man or fighting
whatever and then they finally at the final thing
they would do something if you Go in there thinking
that in the first episode Lucas is gonna be beating
the shit out of a thousand people and every episode
is just action -packed It's not that type of
show that stared out Yeah, that's true. And I...
That whole end fight with him and Diamondback...
Somebody was like... I was talking to somebody
who was kind of like iffy on the show. He was
like, this is kind of like the Hulk versus Abomination
if it was, you know, cheap. They didn't really
break Harlem this time. They just kind of just
fought around a block. And what like you said
before the music apparently Adrian Young and
Ali Shaheed Muhammad are the composers on the
series for the score Yeah, yeah You know Just
the music in this show whether whether it's the
the performances at the Harlem's Paradise or
whether it's the the intro music or whether it's
the instrumental strategy It's just so good the
funny thing about the about the show in general
for me and it's so weird and I'm not gonna take
any points off of it for this, but it's just
one of those things that I noticed Well watching
the opening credits The opening credits run so
slow for me. It's not because of the visuals.
It's not because of the music It's because they
have to list and I counted 13 executive producers
Why the hell does a marvel that everybody won
the piece? Why does this show have 13 EPs? That's
what I'd like to know it's like I've no clue
I've never I mean I'm like I said I know from
watching daredevil and from now watching this
I know those intros are meant to be somewhat
long ish and and draw you in to you know to get
into the mood of what the show is and kind of
you know you open the show with a big action
sequence with daredevil fighting seven guys in
a hallway you know You have to slow it down some
715 doing with these opening themes, but And
I have not counted on daredevil I refuse to count
on daredevil how many EPS they have but I I had
to go back to this Yeah, I had to go back to
this and I'm like 13 executive producers really
13 and I think I might happen after their defenders
because I think I'm pretty sure I know iron fist
is next I'm pretty sure it's defenders and I
think Jessica Jones might come before that and
then Come after defenders and then Luke Cage.
I believe this is just me shoot in the dark Punisher
is in there somewhere too, which people keep
forgetting unless your comes out soon. So And
I guess he's splintering off from the defenders
because I know he has Karen page on his show
As it will guess I think Karen page is gonna
be his Rosario Dawson Connection or whatever,
but I don't know when the hell Luke a season
two comes out. It's it's it's I think up in the
air I believe it's so confusing. There's like
sexity show so scarred hard to remember The episode
I was thinking of was the one I mentioned it
before we're Lucas like I'm gonna if you keep
my name out your mouth and he's walking around
and get everybody's stuff back because cotton
-mouth decides to Steal things and say tell him
Luke Cage's this is Luke Cage's fault or whatever
that was like my favorite episode because that
was the one where I thought the show hit its
stride and any scene where Rosario Dawson's talking
because you gotta understand and it's not again
it's not just because she's beautiful because
it's no doubt she is she is so real it's you
rarely see an actress on a tv show like a marvel
tv show where you buy her you just okay she's
she doesn't feel like you know she's being i
don't want to throw your show your favorite show
under the bus arch gotham where she's like jada
pink it's she's not She's not being super arch
or super, you know, over the... It's real. Wait,
wait, wait. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Fish
Mooney's not walking in the street, but Claire
Temple could be walking in the street. I never
said... I... I have never... She would know exactly
where to hurt her. If... fish Mooney and Claire
Temple any day over fish Mooney yeah exactly
let's clarify something Gotham is not my favorite
Joe I I sometimes defend it because when I think
it's getting good I like it but the biggest downfall
for Gotham for me Is that horrible fishy smell
and thankfully they got rid of it For the most
part. I hope she doesn't come back. She went
into the woods last time we knew And as we know
nobody really comes out of the woods after a
while, but anyway Elements. No, I bet superhero
Is a cop procedural with Batman elements in it
essentially is what that is. Yeah You dug you
maybe more than I did buddy It's essentially
all super all week, I mean really Arrows Oh,
yeah No, I really did dig Luke Cage. I thought
it was great. I thought it was fun. I thought
it was in the great straight from Pulp Fiction
Who I think his name was was his name. He had
a weird kind of criminally sounding name. Is
it Shady? No, no, not Shady. Oh, God, what the
heck is the guy's name? He's gonna kill me now.
He was he was Brett in Pulp Fiction. Say what
again? Detective Scarf Scarf Detective Scarf
Frank Frank Whaley. I think this is a real name.
He's the only little white guy I remember this
year. No, no. He was the only one that was kind
of thinking like you're kind of acting buddy
He was because he was always saying like really
over the he was kind of doing it over -the -top
cop buddy kind of thing a Little bit so when
he died it was kind of like, okay. Thank you
Yeah, because Misty is again another actress
who plays it pretty real she doesn't play it
super over -the -top I think her name is a Simone
music. I think her name is she's I dug her and
I really not a huge Misty night fan. I know she
gets a robotic arm later on and that kind of
hint to it during the show But I thought that
we're gonna you know, I thought she's character
is gonna be like a nothing But she's kind of
like this one of the centerpieces of the show
She is one of those big elements revolving around
Luke She kind of gets lost near the end of the
series where you're kind of like what is she
doing here? But she from the big from the get
-go. She's very good. She has great chemistry
with Luke. I mean that literally and figuratively
But yeah, she's great No, it's all what do you
want and my friend from mr. Robot my favorite
show on television Ron Ron Jones This guy came
out of nowhere, I don't know from Mr. Robot,
first time I ever seen him. And now he's in things,
and I'm like, thank God this guy's here, because
he's great in everything. I think he's a, he,
what the hell was it? The Mr. Robot character
he was playing, he beat out Steve Buscemi's brother.
They actually filmed a scene with Steve Buscemi's
brother as this character, Romero, and then they
recast him with this guy who plays Bobby Fish
on Luke Cage, because he's awesome. He reminds
me a lot of the guy who plays Bubbs on The Wire,
but he's not him. His name is Ron, I think it's
Ron, I believe it's Ron Jones. I saw him in another
show on ABC with the guy who played Christopher
Darden on The People versus OJ. I was like, this
guy's popping up everywhere now because he's
just good. And he's kind of like I think going
to be the new Pops. I think he's taking over
the barbershop that Luke is running and he kind
of is kind of helping Luke get around some of
the legal pitfalls as it were. So hopefully he'll
pop back in season two. Mm -hmm First time I
ever first time I've ever seen him was mr. Robot
and I thought it was the guy from the wire But
I looked at closely at him was like, oh, it's
a different guy that guys this guy's Ron Jones
a little bit older But he's great. I mean wherever
he popped up first I mean, he's always solid
another guy when you hear him talking to you
you buy him You're like, okay this guy's he's
I know whoever this character is. I know this
is not He's the character, he's not performing
the lines as it were. Don't remember that. No,
no, I remember the movie. I still remember him.
Wow. He was in He Got Game. Denzel come on now.
He was the he was the he was the prison guard
prison guard Burrell or Burwell He seems like
seems like a Broadway guy because these Broadway
guys when they come over like the guy who plays
Martian Manhunter on Supergirl He's a Broadway
guy. You could kind of just tell when you get
a Broadway guy cuz they they they know there's
They don't mess around you can just tell this
guy. Oh, yeah material He's read the script backwards
and forwards. He knows his lines. He's all into
this character. So yeah Absolutely, but I is
one of those things where I got I'm confused
with the guy who plays bubs on the wire But it's
not him I forget that it's a different guy somewhere
else in some other Television piece or film or
something Great play that's one of my favorites
of all time Motherfucker with the hat that's
with you. That's you know when you write the
player like we're gonna call it. I got it And
he played he played crooks and of mice and men
in 2014 as well But yeah, no, I mean all these
cast members have just really obviously made
the show the writing and everything else just
everything has come together with this show and
All 13 episodes. It's one thing to have a 13
episodic television show weekly It's another
to have one that's right there When you want
to watch it whenever you want to watch it and
you can find the story by yourself Without needing
to wait six or seven days to watch the next episode
I Do it ironically probably Including up until
pops death where I used to chuckle when pops
would call him power man because I'm wondering
like if he's ever going to take That was the
one thing that sadly that was the one scene if
I'm gonna poke another hole in it where I thought
my cultures acting was a little off when pops
is dying his His crying scene. I didn't really
like it that much everything else. He's fine
when he's playing like, you know angry and Charming
and stuff. He's perfect. Does that one scene
guy kind of took me out of it a little bit But
you know, it's he's not he's not Daniel Day Lewis
not everybody can I Mean not everybody can nail
the crying scene as well as let's say Mr. Mr.
Gary Oldman nobody got though. I told him black
area open earlier. He can't nail as much as He's
not he's not on lost he's not on Hawaii 5 -0
no I give it a solid I give it a solid four.
It's probably my my fourth favorite of the Marvel
Netflix shows. I mean, that may sound bad because
you gotta remember the top three, Daredevil season
one, Jessica Jones, Daredevil season two, and
now Luke Cage. Ironically, I think by this time
next year, all of those shows might get trumped
for me. I think Iron Fist is gonna be the truth.
I've got my fingers crossed, but... Think it's
gonna be great and I want to see these guys cuz
I saw him at the New York Comic Con Mike Holter
and the guy who plays iron fist I forget his
freaking name Finn Jones, I believe I Want our
heroes for hire TV show which is essentially
gonna be both of them I want that show to happen
So if iron fist is a is a smash success like
these four Netflix shows have been I think it's
gonna open up, I think that show's gonna take,
I think Heroes for Hire will be awesome. I think
Iron Fist will be, I need Iron Fist to be great,
so Hire for Hire will be also great. And I think
Mike Holter is gonna parlay this into some other
stuff because now he's on everyone's radar. Who
the hell is this guy that plays Luke Cage? Who's
the Luke Cage guy? He's more of a he's more of
a he's that's Loris Tyrell than another game
of Thrones reference guys I know who you're talking
about. You're talking about mr. Jones. I know
I know I'm talking to the man He's the he's the
night of flowers over there he's from he's a
Tyrell Loris Tyrell, right? It's okay How can
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