Dallas (2012) Season 3 Review

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about my generation hello sir hello how's it

going it's it's going um yeah what i've found

out folks is when we do season passes in the

future here inside or here on remote control

they're going to be split up yeah So we may do

season one of The Blacklist, we may do season

one of Alias, we may do season one of whatever.

And then we'll do another season one of a different

show and then come back and do season two, because

back to back to back, while I've enjoyed the

conversation and everything else, I'm looking

at it in the release order and all that and I'm

like, wow, that's too much of one thing at one

time. The bitch of it too is that we're cramming,

you know, I was doing marathoning for this and

don't get me wrong This is a show that you can

marathon But I was like, oh fuck and I still

didn't finish the very last episode until last

night You know after I got scolded I got my ass

chewed by Mike for this like wait a second you

didn't even Know the whole point. Well, that's

the whole point here folks is whatever host I'm

I'm able to have on to talk about what whatever

show we both like whatever it is doesn't matter

what it is the point of the season passes is

that we do watch an Entire season of television

and then come on and talk about it. That's kind

of the whole point so it's a different way instead

of Instead of talking about a series overall

uh... you know every little minute aspect of

a television series we just examine one season

at a time and i figured that would allow people

to you know explore and expand and you know varying

people come on varying episodes uh... with dallas

here uh... dallas season two was quite the cliffhanger

came back yeah Dallas season 3 which sadly is

the last season Pretty much they blew the show

up in our faces So as I've said the past two

weeks 2012 to 2014 TNT was the channel one hour

with commercials 42 44 minutes without three

seasons 40 episodes The end of season two well

when we talked about season two The way season

two ended I was like Okay, that's a nice little

wrap -up of you know where you know because I

didn't expect them to To do more with JR after

season two because and I don't mean JR himself

obviously he passed away before film or right

after the filming of the seventh episode happens

but uh... seven episodes into i mean uh... i

wasn't sure what to expect from season three

if they were going to continue on jr's plan or

if you know it If it was going to You know what

it was gonna do when we get to season 3 and season

3 has all these twists and turns and folks Because

we're not gonna come back and talk about this

show We're gonna spoil the hell out of season

3 for you. So yes, if you haven't seen it yet

Stop the podcast go to Netflix and watch season

3 of the 2012 Dallas show You know casting is

pretty much stayed the same there are a couple

of new players, but i mean we we we've talked

about these people for the last two and a half

three weeks i will say as far as the characters

go the depth of every single character was explored

at the you know from the middle of season two

to now and it continues to be explored uh...

we see so many different sides of different people

uh... we see Judith light in a light that I never

thought I would ever see her in. Oh my god Well,

and that was kind of funny cuz I'm watching I

was watching the final episode Mm -hmm, and my

wife was in the bedroom She comes out and all

of a sudden she sees Judith light on and she

goes, oh my god. She's on here I'm like, yes,

and she's a ruthless son of a bitch And she goes

Really? I'm like, yeah, you need you need to

sit down and watch this at some point in time

not tonight cuz I got to finish this up but You

got to sit down and watch this and see it and

just My god, I can't believe how how nasty she

was all the shit that she's been involved in

that, you know the the coke ring dealing with

the cartel I died boom I Think the coke ring

is probably what had everyone really really surprised.

Yeah, you don't see elderly men or women specifically

elderly women you don't see them snort a line

of coke and say mama like yeah after it's like

oh my god and Judith light for as bad as the

character of of Judith Ryland is she pretty much

stepped in and took over not we're not really

she shall never replace him But she pretty much

stepped up and filled JR's shoes for season 3.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she was in every little nook

and cranny. The only thing that she wasn't in

was the stuff going on with, um, Nicolas. Yeah,

Nicolas. And I say that in the vein of Aunt Catherine

from Thin Man. Come in Nicolas. Hello Nora. Oh

my god. Oh god That's what we ought to do at

some point on talking. We ought to talk thin

man movies. I love anyway Dallas people season

3 Main story plots here Elena and Christopher

break up Christopher finally has closure on his

mother. She is dead. Pamela Ewing, Pamela Barnes

Ewing, whatever you want to call her, she is

dead. She's not coming on the show. Get over

it, people. Yeah. It would have been nice to

have her in some sort of dream sequence or something,

but this is a... Christopher is a character.

He's been a character like this for 30, 40 years

now, where... Everyone's always well. Oh, you're

not a true Ewing. You're adopted and this that

the other thing and everything else and Well

He was adopted yeah, I mean, yeah, you know,

but it's one of those things where He They when

they had him go the route that he went After

his mother died and looking for closure and looking

for this that I'm glad the kid got closure. I

think that's great I don't think they should

have drug out the whole Pamela thing longer than

they did because Just to try to see if they could

get her on the show. That's just so stupid and

lame and I'm glad they didn't do that Yeah, but

I mean Christopher in the middle of season two

and somewhat here in season three When it came

to his mom and the family and all that stuff

he he kind of turned into a whiny little bitch

for a few episodes Yeah, and glad that righted

itself So you have him and Elena broken up You

have Him starting this whole new relationship

with Heather I was like wait a second. What are

they doing? Yeah. Why are they doing this? And

I guess it kind of fits into what the classic

Dallas series was because you always had to have,

no matter what was going on with JR Bobby and

the feud with Cliff and all that and whatever,

no matter what was going on with that or what

was going on with Sue Ellen or what was going

on with Lucy or whatever. In the classic show,

You always had to have at least one or two episodes

per season that focused on the ranch hands the

people you don't normally see and Have some sort

of ranch hand throwdown or something or other

and that's what I think that the storyline between

Christopher Oh god, what was his name? All I

can think is just Jesse Metcalf. I mean that's

no no no No, yeah Christopher Heather and and

and the ranch and what the hell's damn ranch

hands name. I can't remember off the top of my

head folks You know see you got that I like that

storyline. I thought that was a nice little innocent

thing. There wasn't really anything too I mean

it obviously ended up being complicated because

of her having a child and this that the other

thing and everything else, but at first when

they first started showing them as quote -unquote

dating i like that because it's not a we didn't

seem as complicated as christopher's relationship

with elena usually is there uh... so i like that

about it uh... you have uh... john ross trying

to live up in in phil jr's built buckle uh...

because he is uh... married to pamela he's stuffing

Emma oh and that green lunch ray yeah I told

you about that off air I knew that was gonna

come back and bite us in the yeah oh man and

just the reaction though just the fact that she

went into shock and oh my god I remember watching

that that episode live I was like holy crap what's

gonna happen next week I'll give Dallas season

three this. It really did live up to expectations.

It really did succeed even without JR. Yeah.

And it really was one of those things where damn,

I wish we had a fourth season. Yeah, so as go

ahead as you're watching through this. What did

you what were you thinking as far as everything

that happened? Well a lot of it. I thought was

just kind of like John He was an ass. I'm gonna

say that right out. I mean he was he was manipulating

he was becoming JR and Everybody waiting about

him. You know they're all saying you're just

like your daddy. You know everybody was saying

that and You kind of start to see that, yeah,

he's trying to be somebody else, but he's falling

into his dad's footsteps. You know, even when

he goes out and he. You know, he tries to rescue

Emma, which I still am not sure. You know, part

of it, I guess, was me being half in, half out.

I'm not sure why he was going after Emma other

than, oh, it was Emma and he was sleeping with

her. But it was kind of interesting to see how

that played out. And to see that he really is

becoming worse than his father That just kind

of blew my mind Yeah, he um He's made his bed

and he's lying in it in a big heaping pile of

cow dung because holy crap. Yeah You know that

and Pamela having the overdose that was I was

kind of like Oh, shit. Well, I kind of saw that

coming. You know, I mean, I didn't want to see

it, but obviously the fact that it did come up,

it's like, huh? You know, and. Geez, I don't

know if I want to spoil this just yet. No, I'm

going to hold off. Well, and then you get the

whole thing with the cartel and the kidnapping

and the killing of Drew and all this and all

that. Oh and Elena going down to Mexico and we

find out who she was visiting Yeah, that was

kind of like shit. That was Joaquin Yeah, you

know aka Nicholas. It was like what the hell?

Yep and The whole cartel thing ended up and I

don't think we ever got a real answer to this

But the whole cartel thing ended up where they

kidnapped Anne and Emma Bobby has to There's

this whole other side plot where Bobby has to

become the railroad commissioner and in order

to get the women free and He picks and Emma is

left there. So John Ross has you know feels the

need to save Emma We're not sure during the time

of Emma's capture if she was raped or not Yeah,

I I Wish they would have given us an answer either

way Instead of just leaving it up to the imagination

because I think that's just when it comes to

a rape I think that's just wrong. Yeah, like

let us know What whether it happened or it didn't

happen? Even if you don't come out and say it

like if there's a scream Or something off -camera

that's just audio Just let us know some sort

of inference whether it happened or not. Yeah

It was I mean it was good that they kind of let

our minds go down that path, but at the same

time it's like Shit, really just say it. Yes

or no. That's all we wanted So we have the whole

cartel thing. We have Nicholas trying to protect

Elena, which he's really not because he's pretty

much trying to Quite literally get her pregnant

because like yeah, I remember That scene with

the diaphragm it was like oh My god, no, he did

not I saw that and I'm like what? What? No, no.

Yeah, that was creepy as all hell. What else

did you like or is there anything you didn't

like about season three? Anything you wish they'd

changed? Not really. I mean, it was there. There's

some interesting stuff which ties into the season

finale with with them going through with. You

know seeing Christopher driving the Tesla. I

thought that was kind of a nice touch The very

end how that happened Jesus do I really want

to spoil us just yet? No You know what I'll save

that comment for later. Sorry But I mean there

was for the most part I thought it was pretty

good it was a Little hokey when John Ross is

down, you know trying to save Emma from the Mexican

cartel and he's you know, he's being given the

lighter so that they can track him and he uses

that the signal come in and shoot them. I thought

that was a little hokey. I'm like that probably

could have been changed just a little bit. They

should have burst in without him signaling. But,

you know, that's just my little nitpicking. Yeah.

For me, I don't think there's anything they could

have changed. Think at this point even I mean,

it's a year after the show ended at this point

and I Think really I wanted to you know, I think

everybody that watched this show that enjoyed

this show wanted a fourth season out of it Because

that that's that season finale was just amazing.

Yeah Let's Let's go ahead and talk about that

since I'm I'm like dying and trying not to spoil

good No, just well, I said we were gonna spoil

it. So yeah. Well, okay. Let me talk about that

Tesla first off I'm watching it you see You see

Elena in the bathroom and they've just hinted

about eight or nine months that she's gonna be

coming back to Nicholas Yeah, and I'm watching

that and then they show her in the bathroom like

shit. She's got morning sickness Before they

even look at the pregnancy test and we find out

that it's positive. I was like Jesus I knew that

was coming I could see that Then she walks outside

to go see Christopher This is what bothers me,

okay, he's sitting in a fucking Tesla the guy

Bombs it. There's a guy sitting out in the truck.

He dials the bomb and sets it off and the car

explodes in a flurry of Gasoline explosion. I

mean those flames were gasoline caused Mm -hmm.

It's a fucking electric car There's no fucking

gasoline sorry They had to find some way for

it. Yeah, you're right. It is an electric car

it That was my one big bitch about that. I watched

that and I just kind of went Wow, okay fine,

whatever, you know For me the season finale was

amazing There were so many points where I thought

they would have ended it. I mean, I know it's

a 42 minute show but I don't know. There's just

certain shows and certain movies that it seems

like it's at a certain calm point like everything's

okay and then boom the next thing happens the

next you know, the other shoe drops and The ending

to this I Remember watching this series finale

When it was live and as soon as it was done I

went online to see if it had gotten picked up

and sadly it didn't and You know they can cite

budget and whatever else and costs and all this

and all that and everything else, but Television

studios today television companies production

companies Hollywood at large when it comes to

television There's a lot of people that put a

lot more money into a lot more Shows than that.

I mean Dallas. Okay. Sure. They have the fancy

cars. They have South Fork they I'm sure I'm

sure the city of Dallas probably charges them

to shoot on location in the city or something

I don't know but it's one of those things where

Yeah, it's not two point five million per episode

for a fucking animated series that went nowhere

Father of the Pride, excuse me. Yeah. And the

sad thing is that was NBC and this is TNT. Yeah.

You know, I wish it would have come back because

I have the, because before we got on air, folks,

I had told Doug what my ultimate theory was as

far as how they could bring Christopher back

alive. And, and, uh, You know obviously that's

not gonna happen, but if they had brought it

back My theory was it would all be a dream sequence,

and he you know Elena would wake up she'd walk

into the bathroom, and he turned around and be

in the shower Yeah, I love Bobby Ewing because

it's one of those things where This show if you

really examine Dallas the 2012 series from TNT

in various ways it didn't copy but it mimicked

and Updated the old storylines You had obviously

you had the who shot Jr You had the whole Ewing

Barnes feud You had all these other side deals

that that JR would normally be known to be doing

I Don't know how it's been a very long time folks

since I've seen the a classic Dallas series.

I don't know like was Like I think the whole

Aspect of Judith and the brothel and all that

stuff. I think that was kind of new for the series

I don't remember too many whorehouses in the

old show I'm sure they were there But I just

don't remember them. Well, if we start thinking

about whorehouses, we're going to start thinking

about Burt Reynolds and Dolly Parton in Best

Little Whorehouse in Texas. And that's not where

we want to go. Good Lord. No, that's not where.

I'm just saying like that was another added thing

they did here. And the other thing that they

had done was they brought in the McKays again,

which is interesting. Yeah. They brought in Tracy

and Hunter McKay and and all this and all that.

And I. I like that angle. I thought that was

an interesting way of seeing who could fight

to buy the shares of UN Global. I wish Cliff

had a better send -off. Yeah. I mean, okay folks,

JR is gone. He's gone. And sure, Judith did an

amazing job, you know, kind of filling the villain's

shoes here in Season 3, but let's face it. If

it's not JR, it's Cliff. Cliff has always been

the ultimate antithesis to the Ewing's and the

ultimate villain to them. And just having him

in jail the whole time? I don't know. I've never

been one to root for the Barnes's in the feud.

But with no more JR and with the way that the

show was going. I almost wish Cliff had found

a way to rise up and find another way to screw

with the Ewing's. Yeah. So I have to ask this,

I mean, yes. What were your thoughts on Bum?

Did you do you get the feeling like he was just

the slimy little snaky yes man for everything

that J .R. wanted done? Because I noticed that

throughout the season with him. John Ross that

he was kind of acting as John Ross's gopher I

Love I love bum. I thought bum was an amazing

character that they brought in because she JR

is gonna need somebody I mean JR will absolutely

JR in his old age now at this point in the in

the context of the show not not Larry himself

But in the context of the show JR Ewing is going

to need a right -hand man And the way they wrote

the story in this is Bum has been cleaning up

JR's messes for 30 years. And I don't remember

Bum from the old show. I don't think a character

like him was there. But I like that they added

that in. And I like how instead of it being Kristen

or whoever, Shot him. I really is more, but as

this sounds folks. I really like the whole twist

of fate of that his best friend Shot him because

he asked him to That was a great story. Yeah,

that just it broke my heart to see it, but at

the same time Yeah, absolutely bum knew that

he only had a couple of days And that's the thing

JR was dying so Why not? make it Why not make

his death matter? Instead of just him being succumbed

to cancer, why not make JR's death matter, set

Barnes up, and bang, bam, boom, the Ewing's win

the feud, and then we can move on from there.

It was a pretty good way, and I mean, even the

whole thing that I started seeing, the whole

story that I started seeing throughout this season

was JR was still manipulating from the grave,

even though... Oh, yeah. You know, even though

John Ross was kind of trying to step in and be

JR, JR was still adding little twists at the

very end and little things that was coming out.

Oh, absolutely. And the other reason why I wanted

a season four to come in more so than the whole

Bobby or the whole Christopher Angle was because

of the other bombshell that was dropped. The

last thing that was said on the show? Yeah. Yeah.

Fuck you very much for not telling me about that

sooner. I completely forgot about it, honestly.

Jesus. And what he was talking about, folks,

is that apparently John Ross has a illegitimate

sister. Oh, man. I could... Oh, God. I... So

want to know what the writers were working on

for season four if there would have been at all

like this is one of those shows folks that It

had a satisfying yet what the fuck kind of ending

with the whole explosion of the Christopher's

car It made you want to come back for more but

at the same time sadly, we're probably never

gonna get a conclusion or an explanation to the

fact that JR had an illegitimate daughter. Uh

-oh. But honestly, when I was giving you little

hints and stuff, I completely forgot about that

aspect of the episode. Yeah, that was kind of...

I looked at that, I'm like, what the... Wait,

what? God damn it! Why does it have to end now?

Absolutely. I was so pissed off about that. I

guess I mean I'm pissed off in a good way because

I was like I want more of this what why can't

we get more in? damn Yeah, it just It just so

sucks that the show got canceled it really does

you know I It would be fitting if they did do

a TV movie Mm -hmm and they go through the TV

movie, you know a two -hour thing where they

kind of just close up some of these ends We get

to meet the illegitimate daughter and then they

pull You know, they pull the Bobby Ewing Nonsense

of oh it was all a dream But the question at

that point lies how far back do you want to make

this a dream? You know Yeah, true. I I you know,

I mean obviously I would say that JR has to stay

dead John Ross has to be trying to step in to

fill his father's shoes bum has to have killed

him You know you can't really you can't really

leave anything more than that Maybe South Fork

not burning down or you know portions of the

ranch not burning all the way down to the foundation

that was I Thought that was kind of a nice touch

as to where they were leaving the end of the

season and that had they left it with We need

to rebuild And then South Park South Fork will

be back good. God. I'm slipping South Fork not

South Park South for us. If they had left it

at that, as you know, we will be back and the

South will rise again type of thing. I would

have been OK with that. I would have liked that.

And that would have been a nice fitting end.

But to have this. Oh, I have a sister bit and

to have Christopher get blown the fuck up in

his car. Oh, damn you writers. Damn it. It...

It was a satisfying end to the series, as far

as the overall episode goes. As far as, you know,

cleaning up all the loose ends. At the same time,

they still left us on the cliffhanger. Oh yeah.

And... And damn if it wasn't one of the best

cliffhangers in the 21st century here in television

Because you got to think I mean that that cliffhanger

How many times have people exploded in cars in

Dallas before in the classic series? I mean,

you know That's just something they do regardless

if they're electric or not. Yeah, you know Although

there was one nice twist at the very end there

that I did like with Judith Ryland Yeah. Where

she becomes the new Texas Railroad Commissioner.

Yeah, that was... And the look on Bobby's face

was like, what? Wait, what? Ah. So, he's like,

he looks at Jon Ross, you do realize that making

a deal with the devil isn't always the best thing.

And Jon Ross is like, when he says that, he looks

at him and he goes, you know, everybody keeps

comparing me to my father, JR. I'm not, I'm not

JR. I'm worse. Yeah, and I saw that and was just

like, yep. Yep. Here we come You know and for

him to leave it on that with Bobby that was pretty

much the final end of that With him and Bobby

is I'm gonna be more of a jackass than he is

more evil and more conniving And for us not to

have it think more of the story on that That

pissed me off It was it was really really well

done. It really really was they They planted

seeds for a potential future that will never

get at the same time. It was a satisfying ending

Season 3 overall. I very much enjoyed it. I thought

it was great Let's see here I think we're going

to go ahead and give a rating for season three

and then the series overall. For season three,

I'll give it four and a half out of five stars.

What about you? About the same, just because

of the cliffhanger ending, but that's my only

niggling point on it. Right, right. And the series

overall, what would you rate it, zero to five?

Probably four and a half, just because there

were a couple of slow spots that I thought that

could have been left out, but... They weren't

critical to the overall story, but they were

still good. So we'll leave it at that. I'm going

to give it an overall 4 out of 5. As you said,

there were a few... I don't even want to call

them nitpicks, but there were a few things that

bugged me about certain points in the storylines

and stuff like that. I think after a while, I

got tired of... The whole Christopher woe is

me attitude that he had yeah, I think that got

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Shitty -ass Brandon Ralph Superman as as Adam

and find a way to get in his own damn TV show

As just the way I feel whereas, you know flash

came in And I'm not saying that the storylines

to bring in the Flash or bring in Adam are bad.

I'm just saying the whole concept of using Arrow

as a dumping ground. I mean, the Flash thing

was great. It launched it off, and it did a great

thing with it. I thought it was great. But the

whole thing with Adam... I'll say this Brandon

Ralph is a better Ray Palmer than he was Clark

Kent. So there is that I Haven't seen any of

the episodes yet, but I was kind of like, okay,

please tell me he's you know, please tell me

he's not this Bad, you know bad father absentee

father of a superhero child. I think I think

the difference is it's nine years since Superman

returns so Ralph is obviously Aged in nine years.

He looks he He doesn't look as young as he did

obviously when he did Superman returns And it's

a completely different character completely different

so I honestly I had to I even find out that honestly

didn't even recognize him Didn't even like didn't

even register to me. Maybe it's good Yeah, maybe

it's cuz I just cannot stand his version of Superman,

but So all of that will be coming up here inside

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listen in as we bring you current TV topics and

other things What have you got going on over

at talking about my generation sir? Well, we're

in the middle of failed franchises February We're

actually getting ready to do we will be recording

later this week an episode for Basically franchises

that really should have gone on in a sense that

That you know they they had failures afterwards

or they had failures before they even really

got out the door So we're looking forward to

that things like clerks land of the lost wild

wild west as we've got those things coming up

We've got stuff to talk about look for us over

there. Go ahead and visit us on my generation

podcast calm and Tell us what you think Yeah,

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