Arrow, Season 2 Review

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second season pass episode, we're taking a look

at a little show from CW entitled Arrow Season

2. We'll be giving you our thoughts on the cast

and the entire second season's events. Before

we get started, obviously, it's on the CW. debuted

in 2012, one -hour show, season three so far.

I was really surprised with season two. I was

more surprised with some of the casting that

they brought in than anything else. Half the

people I've never heard of, but they are such

strong characters that it doesn't matter that

I haven't heard of them. as actors um so i like

that what were your initial impressions for season

two steve um well i i liked the direction it

was going the the action ramped up uh this is

actually the reason why i kept going was the

first episode kind of hit it running uh and it

gave a nice little flashback at the end of the

season one uh it also kind of uh uh showed the

uh the dr ivo and the the mirakuru and uh um

you know the destruction of of starling city

the death of of tommy um of course a lot more

uh flashbacks and then the introduction of slade

uh like the really i don't know the the the real

slade you could say so Yeah, what about you,

Chuck? I think right from the get -go, they set

this bar where, you know, because the intro changes,

and he says, you know, to honor my friend Tommy,

I can't be the killer I once was. So you see

that, and you see all the destruction with, you

know, the earthquake in the city and everything,

and you're like, well, how is he going to handle

this without killing people? Like, how is he

going to take that step to become the stronger

person? and it just kind of, like Steve said,

hits the ground running and takes right off from

there in a really good way. I do like how he

changed from being a killer to killing these

guys to just maiming them enough to lock them

up. Yeah. Absolutely. Jumping on the casting

couch, we're not going to be here long, but I

did want to... point out about some of the new

characters. Roy did come in I believe at the

tail end of season one or was he introduced here?

I think he was here. Okay. So we have Colton

Haynes as Roy Harper. I like that they're introducing

this character. I'm not too sure about the actor.

In the role, I like him, but as far as some other

things he's done, he did the MTV series Teen

Wolf. He did... If I haven't watched it, it doesn't

count. Yeah, I know. He was the voice of Linus

Van Pelt in 2011 in Charlie Brown Blockhead's

Revenge. He was... In the updated version of

Melrose Place as Jesse Roberts, he was on an

episode of CSI Miami. He was on an episode of

Pushing Daisies from ABC. Okay, I've seen that.

But, I mean, really, Arrow is really where he

shines. Um, I liked that they brought him in

as Roy. What do you think of Roy in this series,

Chuck? I like his, his inclusion in the show,

but it's, I'd like to see them do more with it.

I mean, they, they do a little bit more with

him, I guess, towards the end of season two.

Um, but maybe because there's so much else going

on with Slade and, uh, you know, things that

happened in the past that, Maybe there's not

enough room for him in a lot of the episodes,

but I just kind of wish that they would feature

him more. I know they had kind of Oliver training

him a little bit, you know, kind of slapping

the bowl of water, which I tried repeatedly,

and it still doesn't make me a better fighter.

But yeah, I mean, I like him overall. Season

three so far, he's kind of non -existent, but...

Season 2, he was good. He's somewhat more existent

than in Season 2, in some regards. Yeah, in the

beginning of Season 2, yeah. Considering in Season

2, he was laying at a table for like three or

four episodes. Yeah, yeah. So we also have, another

one I want to hit on is, no pun intended, Katie

Lotz as Sarah Lance, a .k .a. Black Canary. I

was really surprised they were going to go this

route. I guess I shouldn't have been because,

as I said before, it's Warner Brothers and it's

DC and nobody ever really stays dead. Unless

you jump over to Marvel and take a look at Uncle

Ben's grave. Or Bruce's parents. Yeah, true.

You know, I like her. I think it's interesting

what they did. with Black Canary in this series,

because the only other time I've seen Black Canary

in live action was Rebecca Donaldson. Oh, God.

Oh, God, I'm blanking on her name. Shit. Lori

Loughlin. who used to be on Full House. She starred

as Dinah Lance Black Canary in Birds of Prey

in 2003, and they actually had a scream effect

that she used for the canary cry. It was pretty

cool, but I kind of like this a little bit better,

that it's just this little device that emits

a high -pitched, what sounds like a canary chirping.

I thought that was a little ingenious to not

have to deal with or not have to work on special

effects for her screaming. And Katie, as Sarah,

she does a damn good job. Although that wig is

a little ridiculous after a while. It is, but

it isn't. It kind of is actually interestingly

oddly fitting. See, the funny thing is, I like

her with it on more than I do with it off. That's

the weird thing. Well, it goes with the costume

really well. Yeah. It's better than green eye

paint. Let's put it that way. That's true. That's

true. We also have Manu Bennett as Slade Wilson,

a .k .a. Deathstroke. I wasn't sure where they

were going to go with Deathstroke in this story,

but I do like where they went, that they were

originally quote -unquote brothers and friends,

and then it went south, quite literally. The

winner. Yes. They brought in someone, Carrie

Adams, for Bethany Snow. Bethany Snow is essentially

the DC New 52, or I should say, our favorite

thing about DC Comics, Steve, Channel 52. She's

basically the news reporter. I do like that they

brought her in and used that character name.

But, and that's, yeah, I don't know. I do like

Dylan Neal as Anthony Ivo. I find it kind of

weird that they brought Dr. Ivo into this world

since the only place I know Dr. Ivo from is from

Superman, from Lex Luthor. Robotnik. Yeah, true.

Who else? Summer Glau as Isabel Roshev. She was

all right. She's a little weird at times. Yeah.

Any other cast members you guys want to talk

about before we move on? How about Sebastian

Blood? Yeah, we can talk about him. His mask

looks like a cheap knockoff of Batman Begins

Scarecrow mask. At first, when I first saw it,

before he put it on, when I just saw it in his

hand, that's... Well, and it had the same kind

of effect. Almost a fear toxin thing, and then

he kind of goes... When it's, you know, on his

face. Yeah, the distorted voice kind of going

on. He's had some interesting roles over... Over

time. He's been on Psych for an episode. The

Mentalist. Lawed under Special Victims Unit.

He was on True Blood for a number of years. I

like Sebastian Blood. It was interesting. I was

kind of wondering where that was going to go.

If they were going to allow Moira to defeat him.

Honestly. In the race. Obviously that's not the

route that they took. I don't think they played

him up enough, though. Like, in the end, he's

just a stooge for Slade. But he doesn't know

it. Right, but, like, I thought Brother Blood

was supposed to be this whole badass separate

villain, and now he's just a random henchman

for Slade. For now. Well... For now. No, Slade

killed him, didn't he? There could always be

another Brother Blood. There's many. I was going

to say, I think he did kill him in the show.

I think he killed this one. When he confronted

him at the desk, yeah. And he was kind of hinting

that he was going to turn on him, and he kind

of just took him out. Absolutely. So let's jump

or not to jump the shark. A basic plot for season

two. Chuck kind of already ran it down that,

you know, Oliver has to change his ways to honor

the memory of his friend and no more killing.

This season is basically the, I don't want to

say origin, but it's the backstory to how Oliver

and Slade got along on the island and how they...

Eventually became enemies, so there is that.

Steve, what kind of notes did you take for Season

2? What did you like? What didn't you like? All

that good stuff. Well, actually, I liked a lot

of the flashback scenes, and I liked the fact

that they showed how Sarah survived, how the

grudge got wedged between Oliver and Slade, how

Slade got his monstrous power. The further kind

of showing that Oliver has to make a difficult

decision twice in his life. Right. At the same

type of scenario to only a different person pulling

the trigger, or in this case, a blade. But it

was nice to see the mother finally go away, as

wrong as that is. Because I found her really

annoying all the time that she showed up. I mean,

yeah, she was a part of that underground evil

network, but again, she just came out whenever

she showed up. They gave the sister more purpose

in this season. Again, love Black Canary. Absolutely.

I like the portrayal of it. I'm not sure what

they're going to do later on. I like that. Seeing

the Suicide Squad again. Yeah, that was interesting.

That was pretty sweet. Which is funny. Especially

the little nod to Harley Quinn there. Yeah, that

they wouldn't show. They didn't need to. The

voice was spot on. Yeah, and then plus seeing

she's like a therapist, which she kind of...

was in the comics she was like a prison therapist

or whatever yep um i wish they'd almost would

have let her out that might be a cage that they

open later on yeah but with the suicide squad

movie coming out i don't think they want to open

that can of worms no not unless they're going

to get the same actress that they already have

gotten for the movie to do it um When I heard

the voice, I really had to do a double take for

Harley because I thought it was Tara Strong at

first. I could so imagine her as Harley. I did

too, yeah. I could so imagine her as Harley.

What about you, Chuck? What did you like, not

like about season two? Well, there's a lot of

things. I guess the first thing I would say is

that I thought the show took a... took a big

step up in a lot of ways like the the acting

was improved like some of the some of the stiff

acting from the beginning of season one is kind

of pretty much gone away by now um i like the

added like stress in oliver's life uh not only

because of slade wilson making him sweat bullets

but just all the family issues and the lies and

everything with his mother and his sister and

Every episode was just this huge crushing mental

weight on him. It was interesting seeing him

try to handle that throughout the season. I thought

Manu Bennett was terrific as Slade Wilson in

the flashbacks and in the present. Flashbacks

were even better than season one in my opinion.

Let's see. Felicity had a little bit bigger role,

but that crappy love triangle thing kind of came

back a little bit. But it was a little bit more

tolerable this time around. But yeah, Barry Allen,

that was a big thing for me. Super excited to

see that. And then I guess one bad thing I would

say about Isabel Rochev, what is her purpose?

I don't know. like I know she was trying to like

take over the company and stuff and that was

some more added stress on Oliver but other than

that she didn't like her character didn't like

fill out the way I thought it would well I was

I was almost scared that she was introduced because

and she's such a forgettable character I was

almost afraid that because whenever she joins

a show it dies I mean, that's horrible to say,

but it's true. Whenever she seems to join a show,

it just dies. And so I was kind of glad that

they offed her before the season was up. Yeah,

I was surprised that they kind of brought in

such a big -name actress for that part. That's

why I was expecting so much more out of it. I'm

like, okay, they got Summer Glau. This character's

going to last. Don't get me wrong, I like her,

but... She's a good actress. It's just, I think

that, like you said, she's kind of wasted. Yeah.

The only other thing I know her from is the,

was it the Terminator series, I think? The Sarah

Connor Chronicles, and she was on Dollhouse.

Oh, okay. I didn't see that. I've seen that.

It got canceled after season two. Why does that

not surprise me? Every show I tend to watch that

I've caught on Netflix has gotten canceled after

a season or two. She doesn't always show up in

them, but sometimes. Well, at least her guest

appearance in a certain comedy we liked didn't

ruin that show. She guested on an episode of

The Big Bang Theory. That's right, she jumped

trains. No, Sheldon shoved her off the train.

For me with season two of Arrow, in episode two

of the season, that poor Mustang. I always hate

it when I see cars get destroyed like that. Oh,

man. I love Felicity in this season because she's

like, oh, great, my secret identity is being

your secretary, your gopher. Dig is like, well,

it could be worse. My secret identity is being

his black driver. I can't believe they get away

with a lie like that. Why wouldn't they? Last

Man Standing gets away with a lot worse than

that. True. Black Canary, hell yes, more of that.

somebody needs to beat Hollywood over the head

with a stick. And I say Hollywood in general,

and I know a lot of our listeners hate when I

do this, but somebody needs to beat Hollywood

over the head with a stick because it is not

Raz, it is Raish. There is a damn difference.

It's Raish Al Ghul. There's no goddamn Z in his

name. Ugh. Um... Chuck already said about The

Scientist, Three Ghosts, and Blast Radius. Those

three episodes are probably the best three episodes

of the season, just setting up Barry and setting

up for the whole new series. That's how you set

up a spinoff series, is bring them into the world

that you've already... Season one, we're done

with season one. We did season one last week

on the show, on the podcast here, but season

one, they built all this up. And you said earlier

in this episode, Chuck, that... You know, season

two got off to a better start because all the

setup for the most part is in season one as far

as who Oliver is and what he's there to do and

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, they had

the opening set up for this season immediately

right in the intro when they changed the voiceover.

Yeah. You know, I mean, that was all the backstory

you needed for season one. I'm not saying people

shouldn't go back and watch season one. I'm saying

that jumping into season two, the opening montage

is all you need for continuity -wise. Go ahead,

Steve. I was going to say, I was almost scared,

too, that Barry Allen was being played by somebody

from Glee. Yeah, I have stereotypes as far as

certain shows are concerned. I have never watched

Glee. I've never watched Glee, but I've caught

bits and pieces of it just because it's happened

to be on and I'm passing channels and I'm waiting

for a commercial to end. But I'm not a fan of

that kind of show. But again, it doesn't really

speak much of their talent unless you see them

actually try something different. So I gave him

a shot, seeing him in Arrow, and then kind of

seeing that he was kind of this almost nerdy

Peter Parker -y, Tobey Maguire -type -ish character,

but better. Thank you for adding the but better.

Well, no, he is infinitely better. I'm not going

to even... I mean, he's kind of a quasi -comparison,

not actually... If Garfield never wants to do

it again, Gustin can step into the role. Sure.

That'll never happen. I'd prefer to see him in

the Flash movie, but that's true. But yeah, so

I kind of was liking the way that they did that

and they brought him in and kind of not to mention

all the other name nods that have dropped in

this season of different characters that are

going to eventually become somebody important.

And that keeps on through season three as well.

I kind of like the sitting back going, I know

who that's going to be. I know this. I know who

that is. Trying to figure out how they're going

to actually evolve into what they turn into later

on. Absolutely. For me, the one complaint, you

guys were complaining about the love triangles

in season one and stuff like that. Honestly,

my biggest complaint about Season 2 is the whole

arc with Laurel. That... I understand they needed

to set it up for the whole Sebastian blood thing,

but... That just... I don't know how... It just

felt so forced and so wrong, and honestly, it

felt like the actress couldn't... Like, she kept

having two left feet. Like, I felt zero emotion

from the character. Okay, sure, her other love

triangle boyfriend died in the quake. Okay, fine.

And I think my problem is they make it last way

too long. It's like seven episodes of the season

that she's going through all this emo bullshit.

Now, I get it, she's grieving, don't get me wrong.

I just don't like... the direction that they

took the character. Cause she is such a whiner

in this season. Laurel. Yes. That's the one thing

that a lot of shows I think kind of do is they

kind of make the women characters. And it's,

I'm not saying this happens all the time, but

a lot of them are just kind of throw away. And

the shows, I mean, they're just kind of there

a means to an end. She's there because of continuity

purposes. But other than that, she's not really

that important. At least not yet. Until she gets

out of her stupor. Yeah, very true. And when

she and Canary are in the alley, why does Sarah

need to take the wig off? If Laurel would just

sober up and look her in the eye, she would know

it's Sarah without having Sarah take the wig

and the mask off. That was just... That was just

crazy. I love this line. Just wondering, when

did you become so scary? I just love that. As

the season progresses, we get, you know... How

Oliver got in with the Russians through the flashbacks.

We get what actually happened between him and

Slade. We get Slade's kind of final plan, which

is basically to use Sebastian Blood and then

create his own army with the Mirakuru. We also

have Thea taking over the club full time. We

have her and Roy being in some weird... quasi

relationship I don't know what the hell you'd

call their relationship it's not on again off

again it's like it's not even will they won't

they it's more of like what the fuck is going

on with the two of you and then of course Roy

gets injected with the Mirakuru and that adds

a whole other dynamic to it um what else did

you like about season two Chuck um Let's see,

I guess... I don't know. There's one thing I

didn't like, which was... I guess Diggle sort

of had a diminished role at certain points, and

I was kind of sad to see that because of what

he built up in Season 1. I wanted to see more

of his character. But I guess they brought him

around more at the end and stuff. I did like

the addition of the League of Assassins and the

whole name dropping with Ra's al Ghul. And by

the way, the first, I believe, on -screen adaptation

to properly refer to them as the League of Assassins

and not the League of Shadows. Right, yes. But

yeah, that was pretty cool to have them in there.

What's her name? I can't think right now. Talia

is her real name. They call her Nissa here. Yeah,

they call her Nissa. She was an interesting skill

set. It was kind of like a... I guess sort of

a copy of Merlin and stuff like that. I wasn't

expecting her and Sarah to be in a relationship.

That is something that I was not expecting at

all. Yeah, that was one of those moments where

you're like, what? It's like, what the hell happened

to you the last five years? Oliver centered over

to the other side. Well, you know, the League

of Assassins isn't always... That way? Oh, man.

Kind of a... Can you imagine if... Can you imagine

if the League of Assassins was built out of the

Amazon? Anyway. Season 2, it ended... ended differently

than what I thought it was going to end. I mean,

I knew we were going to get the ultimate showdown

between Slade and Oliver and all that, but in

Unthinkable, Season 2, Episode 23, I love how

Oliver basically pulls a Bruce Wayne in this

episode. where he basically tricks slade um and

it also is kind of a lie to us the audience because

they the writers hook us in with oh he loves

felicity that's so nice they're gonna start dating

in season three yay And they hook us in and hook

us in, and obviously they have the reveal in

the finale that, oh, I'm just saying. It's kind

of like that stupid line from Not Another Team

movie. All I said was, I'm whispering something

into your ear. I didn't say anything else. It's

almost like one of those Spaceballs moments.

Because good is dumb. Yeah. What I wasn't expecting

out of the finale for season two is more backstory.

Like, I wasn't expecting more backstory. I was

like, okay, well, five years, the island, that's

done. The ship, all of that is all over with.

So no more flashbacks. We're just going to have

the present day stuff. And then they hit us with

the fact that Amanda Waller brings him to Hong

Kong. I'm like, wait, what? That was great. It

was. It was cool. It was interesting. I like

it. But I just was hoping for no more flashbacks

after a while. After two full seasons, 46 episodes

of flashbacks, I was hoping for no more. Not

that I think they're bad. I just... I prefer

the stuff that's going on. But I think it works

for this show. Instead of having to do all backstory

or all in the thick of the battle, they get the

opportunity to still storytell, but it's locked

in a previous time so that they can actually

kind of cut away from all the expensive bits.

Absolutely. Going at the rate they're going right

now... We should have five seasons of flashbacks

since he was on the island for five years, or

missing for five years, I should say. Oh, God,

no. Stop. Don't give them ideas. We still have

two and a half years of flashbacks left. Oh,

God. Yeah, then they're going to try to, you

know, make one of the flashbacks, oh, hey, I

spent time at Alcatraz for half of the fourth

year. Not that I think they'll do that. Then

they'll be like, wait, that's when we get cancelled.

I wonder if they're going to use those opportunities

to name drop more DC characters. I would assume

so. Like, oh yeah, I ran into this guy named

Bruce and he was training and learning 12 different

martial arts at once. I don't think they're going

to do that. Especially with Gotham being over

at Fox, I don't think that they're going to name

drop Bruce Wayne. They can name drop the League

of Assassins. They can name drop Ra's al Ghul.

They can name drop Talia because I refuse to

call her what they call her in this series. They

can pull in other DC Universe characters. Like

I already said, they pulled in Ivo, which the

only place I've ever seen Ivo is with Superman

and Lex Luthor and all that. It's going to be

interesting to see. If there is one Batman character

that I obviously want to see them pull in, and

Steve, you already know what I'm going to say.

Nightwing. Is Nightwing. They need to team up.

So season two ends, and after the second season,

I was more pumped after watching the end of the

second season than I was watching the end of

the first season. Because it's kind of hard to

fight an earthquake. You can fight a guy with

one eye. I mean, you know. It's the one -eyed

man. Sorry. It's the one -eyed man. Battle Royale,

Slade Wilson versus Nick Fury. Oh, Lord. Tony

Stark would say that sounds exhausting because

you have to turn your head. Yeah, absolutely.

Any final thoughts for Season 2, Chuck? I think

I pretty much got everything out there. I guess

something I could mention, cause they were showing,

uh, the Oliver queen, the queen mansion a little

bit, but, uh, that, that actually, and I remember

thinking even back in season one and, and see

in season two as well, but I'm like, that looks

like the same exact like mansion that they used

for the Luther mansion in Smallville. And it

is. Yes. It's, um, I forget the name of it. It's

some sort of castle in British Columbia. Mm -hmm.

Hatley Castle, yeah. Every time I see the exterior

of the Queen Mansion, I'm like, damn, that's

a big house. And then they go in, and they're

in seven rooms out of however big it's supposed

to be. Is the interior different from the exterior

shots, or do we know? I mean... Yeah, I think

it might be a little different. Okay. Because

it just doesn't... Like the outside, it looks

like it's a five -story mansion. It looks like...

I don't want to compare it to this, but the only

thing I can compare it to is like a five -story

townhouse. You know? It's just one of those things

where it doesn't look like it's... On the inside,

it doesn't look as big as it is on the outside.

So it isn't... Go ahead. I'm sorry. I do like

Slade Wilson's little trick there where he wanted

to look at all the artwork, and he was actually

planting little cameras throughout the house.

I was pretty sly there, but Oliver eventually

figured it out, of course. Yeah, absolutely.

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All right, we are back here on Remote Control.

Chuck, what are your predictions for season three

and what are you going to rate season two? See,

it's weird for me because season two was like

everything that I wanted out of the show. So

honestly, like if they canceled the show after

season two, I probably would have been satisfied.

because i was like you know slade's his ultimate

villain you know he outsmarted him at the end

he got him you know i was happy um so i'm like

where do you go from here you know obviously

they're gonna try to bring in more dc characters

um i hope they don't reach that jumping the shark

moment yet in season three um maybe they'll actually

bring in uh henry winkler and have him jump jump

a shark but that would be awesome i i would pay

to see that i would i would pay to go to la to

see that happen yeah i think he ran into him

in hong kong and he was doing a stunt um i don't

know i think uh i know obviously there's i i

had anticipated a lot of like roy becoming uh

red arrow from the comics um so i was kind of

looking forward to that And I was also looking

forward to, you know, not to give anything away

in season three, but I was looking forward to

maybe the mantle of Black Canary being passed

to Laurel somehow. I guess my prediction would

be that that would happen eventually. I don't

know if they're going to go that direction or

not, but, you know, we'll see. There's a lot

of interesting things they're bringing in. Ray

Palmer, which is Brandon Routh's second crack

at a DC character. Well, at least he won't be

Superman. Yeah. I like the guy as a guy. He's

a good actor. He's kind of cool. I'll leave that

aside. I didn't like Superman Returns, but I

do like the guy. I like his personality in Season

3 so far, so I'm really looking forward to where

that goes. But as far as rating season two, I

really would love to give it five stars, but

I know I can't. It's not that perfect. As much

as I was satisfied with it and really enjoyed

how it ended, but I'm going to have to go 4 .5.

There's still some issues going on there, like

you mentioned with Laurel and her whole story

arc. Some other little minor issues here and

there. They could have used Diggle a little bit

better in Season 2. So I guess I did like Season

2 better than Season 1. So I should probably

move my Season 1 down to 4 stars. But I would

say 4 .5 for this one. What about you, Steve?

I would give a strong 4 .5 as well. I really

like this season. As Chuck said, I... If they

would have never made another season, I would

have been content right here. But since they

are making another season, obviously, and it's

airing, I really love this show. I'd definitely

give it a 4 .5. And I'm not going to go into

my predictions because they're all spoiler heavy.

Yeah, because as of this recording, we were like,

what, four or five episodes into season three,

six episodes, something like that. For me, I

really was left with my jaw on the floor with

the whole Hong Kong thing because I was like,

you, Chuck, okay, well, if Slade is gone, no

more Slade, none of that, what else are they

going to do with the show? And then, holy crap,

he knew Amanda Waller, blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah. And we kind of see that in season two with

the whole Suicide Squad stuff. We kind of see...

I think in that episode he says, I'm going to

have to make a call that I never thought I'd

have to make, or something like that. So I'm

kind of liking the new flashbacks. Thank God

we're not on the island anymore. That is really

what was weighing me down with the flashbacks

of constant island stuff. I think you may go

back to the island, though. Well... He does,

but he does of his own free will this time, at

least in the season three opener. But it's one

of those things where for season two. But I'm

also going to give it a 4 .5. The only reason

why I don't give it a 5 is because of Laurel's

arc. I'd love to rate this lower, but there were

so many more awesome moments in Season 2 than

Season 1. And with her whole, you know, woe is

me, oh my god, pay attention to me kind of thing

in this one, it's like half a point is all that's

really needed to cut her down to size. So that's

going to do it. here on Remote Control for this

first or second season pass, I should say. We

are going to be doing more season passes coming

up next. I'm trying to see. We don't know what's

going to actually happen coming up next. We might

do the Blacklist season one. We may do Dallas

season one. I'm not exactly sure yet. We might

do Rizzoli and Isles Season 1. I just don't know.

So that's what's going to be coming up. Steve,

where can the people interact with you online?

Well, generally on the internet. Just... You

asshat. Yes, and I'm, of course, at TF2 and Mike.

You can also follow at Geekcast Radio and all

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time when we'll all be fighting over the remote

control. Who are you at Foxton? Talk about unthinkable.

You and me, I mean. When you told me you loved

me, you had me fooled for a second. Maybe you

might have meant it. What you said. You really

sold it. We're both dead. It's gone. Dick, what

was the news about you and Lila? You can wait.

I'm flying. Be my guest. I got one more question.

Wouldn't be you if you didn't. If you spent five

years on this island, when did you learn how

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