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Stalker Review

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in the third pilot premiere episode. We're going
to be taking a look at another show from CBS
entitled Stalker. Dun, dun, dun. So we are going
to head to a quick news break. We'll be back
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news Yes, yes you are and I found out from last
episode in the scorpion editing Process for the
scorpion episode last week that um me closing
the intro or transitioning to the news And then
me coming in and starting the news sounded like
crap so Yes, I Am here with Steve and we're gonna
be talking about some news Huge thanks to the
wonderful Kate over at the television .com for
her caffeine column This is news for Sunday,
October 12th 2014 We've got our first full season
pickups of the fall. But first a few premiere
dates November 15th, Atlantis. December 7th,
The Librarians. January 16th, 12 Monkeys. Wow.
February 8th, The Walking Dead mid -season premiere.
That's funny. The fourth season premiere just
happened. And March 5th, Dig. Twin Peaks is returning.
A new limited series from David Lynch and Mark
Frost will air on Showtime in 2016. Picked up
for full seasons, How to Get Away with Murder
and Black -ish. Renewed, Awkward for a fifth
and final season, The Game for a ninth and final
season, Transparent, Survivors Remorse, Black
Sails, Under the Dome, Extant, The Walking Dead,
The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret,
Canceled, Unforgettable, and Reckless. Now Unforgettable
is a show on CBS that stars Poppy Montgomery.
I remember watching parts of the first season.
I've been wanting to watch it. Since then, at
first, after the first season, Optimus Solo and
I thought it was going to be cancelled immediately,
but CBS brought it back, and now they're cancelling
it again. The mysteries of Lara and Constantine
have had additional scripts ordered, that's interesting.
So, the news topics we are going to talk about
this time around include... Uncle Buck series,
John Hughes and John Candy families displeased.
Neither the writer -director of the 1989 comedy
feature Uncle Buck, John Hughes, nor its star,
John Candy, are still with us, but speaking for
their loved ones, the families of Hughes and
Candy have voiced their disapproval over a planned
Uncle Buck TV series in the statement to Deadline.
The multi -camera project from Universal TV whose
feature sibling produced the title -hit movie
was recently set up at ABC. The families object
to the idea of remaking the movie, noting that
Hughes opposed the previous sitcom remake by
CBS, which only ran for one season, and would
have likely not been supportive of the last redo
attempt. So, you know how you and I are always
complaining about Hollywood needs to get new
ideas. Oh, yeah You know and and I know people
over on the altered geek posts for this past
Friday have said Oh, well, it's not Hollywood.
It's but but it is it really really is Hollywood
I mean Hollywood at large producers directors
networks, so it's probably more specifically
network executives Than it is, you know the actual
producer director people No, I'm glad that the
families are speaking out about this and they're
saying that they're displeased with this There's
no way in hell an Uncle Buck television series
would work today Well, it's just it's kind of
like a lot of the stuff from the 80s like if
they were to redo back to the future They should
be pummeled in the face and I was watching a
video earlier and this goes into a lot of the
same ground of rehashing 80s stuff like how they're
talking about Ghostbusters getting a An entirely
female cast and being written by the people that
did Like the heat or whatever, but um, but anyways,
they were saying that you know like that in that
instance You know during a reboot kind of makes
sense because all the guys are you know? Often
they're their own little land or whatever and
don't really care anymore and have passed away
sadly, but like in this instance in You're going
to see that trend coming a lot more lately. I
noticed a lot of it when I was browsing Twitter
earlier that there's attempts to bring more films
to TV. Unfortunately, like Resident Evil and
what's that one with Rush Hour? Oh, yeah. Stuff
like that. There's a lot of stuff that doesn't
need to come to TV, and I think that Uncle Buck
is one of them. It sadly would not work without
John Candy. Now, if he were still with us and
in good health and wanted to do it, that would
be one thing. But I don't think that honestly
there's anybody that could fill the void of Hughes
and... uh... candy here yeah no absolutely not
the only interesting thing about this is if they
recast not and i don't mean recast as in get
somebody different but if they cast again gene
louise kept gene louisa kelly the original tina
that's the only way that it would be remotely
interesting for me, but yes, no, I agree. I think
a lot of this stuff needs to be left in the past.
I know we're nostalgia freaks and everything
nowadays, but honestly, I think that it lived
best in our memories, and I think that it needs
to be left there. I think that they need to come
up with something new, which it does seem that
they are doing more and more on television now,
but the fact that they keep having to fall in
this crutch because... They're like, oh, well,
this is popular back then. I think it'll do well
now. Whereas a lot of the stuff is kind of hit
or miss that's on TV now, unless it's superhero
or comic -based. The next story actually ties
into something that is very near and dear to
my heart, along with this podcast. Exclusive
from tvguide .com. Peter Fonda to guest star
on NBC's The Blacklist. Get your motor running
iconoclastic actor, iconoclastic actor, Peter
Fonda. Peter Fonda has signed on to guest star
on an upcoming episode of NBC's The Blacklist.
Fonda will play Jeff Perl, a CEO and philanthropist
who funds millions of dollars for animal rights
groups. Produces our mum on the character Beyond
That, but... hint that he is not on Red Reddington's
list. The episode will air Monday, October 27th
at 10, 9 central. Where's your daddy? Fonda is
the latest in the string of high -profile guest
stars on the blacklist including Paul Reubens,
Mary Louise Parker, and Kristen Ritter. Any time
the blacklist brings in cast members, I'm always
interested to see who they... you know, bring
in. Well, and they're never throwaways. I mean,
they are. Sometimes they are, but they're they're
tasteful throwaways. Meaning that they'll be
around a few episodes before you see the end
of them. Yeah, absolutely. This next, well, this
last story here, I just found interesting because
you're a fan. You're a super fan. of the second
show, not the originating show. I am a super
fan of the Joss Whedon show Angel. And any time
Charisma Carpenter, aka Cordelia Chase, is in
the news, I absolutely love it. She has landed
a guest starring role on Sons of Anarchy. Now
Sons of Anarchy is an interesting show. I have
yet to crack that can of worms to watch it. I
know I should. I want to. And eventually we will
cover Sons of Anarchy here on Remote Control.
But she is going to be landing a guest starring
role. She'll play Kara, a conservative administrative
director at a medical facility. Further details
on her role are being kept under wraps. The actress,
whose credits also include The Lion Game, Greek
Veronica Mars, and Surviving Evil will appear
in an episode slated to air in this season. Sons
of Anarchy airs Tuesdays, 10 p .m. on FX. She's
also, she was in the first two Expendable movies
as Lee Christmas's girlfriend, so there's that.
I absolutely love her. I'm not just going to
watch Sons of Anarchy because she is an upcoming
guest star. I am going to go back from season
one and watch from the beginning because I am
interested in that show. It's just a lot of TV
folks I don't catch up on when it's airing. I
prefer to come back. That's why I love my DVR.
Right now, as we're recording this, I have probably
five shows on my DVR that I need to watch. Usually
on Monday nights when we do podcasts and stuff
like that, I've got my DVR all fired up, ready
to go to record every single thing that I need
to record, and then 4 a .m. Tuesday morning or
Wednesday morning I'll watch it when there's
nothing on TV at 4 a .m. Have you ever seen an
episode of Sons of Anarchy, or is that something
that interests you, or no? Well, not only do
I not get the channel, but it's not something
that registers on my radar. Ah. OK. All right.
Well, I think that's out. God damn it, I have
to edit this. I think that's it for news. We
will get to our feature after this. I'm gonna
get you really, okay? Okay, I will. Stalking
can be the result of a relationship gone wrong,
or delusional fixations that are pushed to extremes.
Anyone can be a stalker. Ex -boyfriend, spouse,
stranger. Anyone can be a victim. And it's on
the rise. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. Snapchat,
Tinder, whatever app is hot today, we have too
much access to one another. Social media is the
number one reason stalking cases have tripled
in the last decade. That's where I come in. I
run TAU, the Threat Assessment Unit of the LAPD.
We are responsible for all stalking cases and
threats to individuals... as well as politicians
and city employees. It is our job to assess the
level of threat in any situation and respond
accordingly. If I lost you, I'm seeing eyes glaze
over. How about this? Any questions for me? Did
you handle the Selena Gomez stalker? I heard
David Letterman had a stalker for over a decade.
Some lady you kept breaking into his house? No,
I didn't. And yes, he did. But celebrity stalking
makes up only 10 % of all stalking cases. Most
victims are like you and me Alright folks, that's
the news and now we get to the stage dressing
for stalker debuted this year 2014 on CBS. It
is a one -hour Drama I guess you could say so
far. It's supposed to have one season. We don't
know I don't know how many episodes are off the
top of my head, but the basic Premise for stalker
is LAPD's threat assessment unit lieutenant Beth
Davis and detective Jack Larsen search for a
stalker With an affinity for fire also Beth meets
with an exasperated college student who claims
his former roommate is aggressively harassing
him So I assume When I told you about this shows
the first you'd heard about it For this yes,
and then shortly after when we were watching
the Big Bang Theory premiere we saw Commercials
for it. I was like, oh, okay. This looks kind
of interesting That's what I'm gonna say about
it right now Yeah Yeah, it's yeah So let's jump
onto the casting couch here. You've got Dylan
McDermott and Maggie Q is the main stars Mean
these two people have been I mean McDermott himself.
He's been in a number of stuff Most famously
the the the practice He was in Olympus has fallen
He's done a lot and I just you know I'm drawing
a blank other than the practice for what he's
done American Horror Story dark blue that was
really really a short series in 2009 um big shots
let's see the grid no it has nothing to do with
tron um would be better if it did yeah uh uh
he his first ever role 1987 hamburger hill oh
yeah you're right i forgot about that sergeant
adam france yeah according to imdb um And Maggie
Q. Oh, god. Everybody remembers her from Live
Free and Die Hard. Yeah. She's also in Nikita.
She was in Mission Impossible 3. She was in Divergent
this year. She was a she was Chase Lin in Need
for Speed Undercover, which is a video game a
few years back. She was in Deception, which is
a show on NBC at one point. Honestly, outside
of... Oh yeah, she was in Rush Hour 2. She was
the girl in the car. Honestly, outside of Live
Free or Die Hard and... Need for Speed undercover.
I don't know her from much, but I mean, Lou Faradard
was fairly famous, so there is that. But I just,
I love her as an actress. You also have in this
a lot of unknowns to me. Obviously Elizabeth
Rome is Amanda Tate. Remember her from obvious
in law and order and as I said earlier angel
But the rest of the cast I just looking at their
names I would have to click on all their all
their names to see what else they've done But
these are not names that I know a lot about Yeah,
I mean they they seem I don't want to say unknowns
because obviously they've been around for a while
that you know, some of them have done other things
but mmm, it's nobody special really, I mean I'm
gonna be I'm gonna say this and I'm probably
gonna get hate for it, but Dylan McDermott He
seems to me like his best years were on the practice
Maggie Q again, it seemed like her best role
was to look like, you know a super hot kick -ass
villainous in live free or die hard I You know,
yeah, she looked attractive but just it didn't
do it for me. I'm sorry. Mm -hmm So we're gonna
jump or not jump the shark here In this first
episode, we see that obviously Beth and Jack
meet he gets transferred from New York He has
a past and he doesn't make a very good first
impression on her. But first of all When the
show first starts we have the scene with this
this woman coming home and I assumed she was
calling her boyfriend Yeah, you know like like
when she first you know picked up the phone and
says Troy are you home? I'm pulling up and I
thought the guy you know I thought it would have
been her boyfriend or whatever else and we don't
really know too much about her and then The the
the stalker shows up and let's go and go ahead
and get this out of the way here This is a Kevin
Williamson show people Anyone who doesn't know
who Kevin Williamson is just go look at a scream
mask and you'll know Because they actually use
they don't use the exact mask, but they use uses
writers and whatever else they use somewhat of
a scream Ask mask here. Yeah with this this stalker
so no one really knows who is who it is and So
we get this opening scene where he stalks her
he chases her back to her car she you know in
cliched TV fashion drops her keys so the stalker
has her keys he douses her with gasoline before
she gets in the car he douses the car with gasoline
and lights it on fire right as she is letting
the The emergency break go to roll down the hill
Several things with this the this pilot the first
the first scene You mean to tell me none of the
neighbors heard her screaming or horn heard the
horn hocking or Heard the crash when she hit
the telephone pole. Okay later in the episode
The neighbor says that he was asleep and he had
his phone on silent. I'm sorry Anybody that makes
as much noise as she did with the screaming and
the car and every Neighbors would have heard
that yeah would have been standing out, you know
Well, and what about the jogger that went running
past her surely that jogger couldn't have gotten
You know a mile away out of earshot of all this
shit. I know Exactly. So that's that's one problem.
I have with the pilot And then as so this scene
happens, what did you think of this first scene
this this opening attack? It was it was a bit
of a thriller. I'll say that because that was
what they were trying to entail but The guy was
the mask. Okay, I'm gonna bring this up my first
thought when I saw it was oh shit It's the human
being from community The guy I mean, that's my
first thought was he's wearing a hoodie, but
that's it. It's him I just kind of went this
is supposed to be scary. Well, okay Yeah, I mean,
yeah and the whole gasp it that and backing up
and running away from him trying to get away
The drama built there. I will give him that that
was good To a point, okay. I mean for what it
was for what they were trying to do. I got it
Yeah, it was a good action scene. It was just
don't believe that no one heard it yeah yeah
I mean those are that basically what I came to
with it but so we then go to we go to Dylan McDermott's
character Jack who we don't know who he is just
yet we just know hey there's Dylan McDermott
and he's Acting like a stalker himself. Yeah.
Like, I thought they were gonna set him up, like
I obviously knew that they weren't, but when
I first saw him in the scene, I'm like, okay,
so they're gonna set him up to be a stalker and
eventually Beth is gonna have to, you know, hunt
him down and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But
no, they pulled it the other way and made him,
hey, I'm the new guy. And he's the new cop. nothing
I can think of that's worse than a stalker who
is a police officer or in the police department
somehow. I've seen other television shows that
do this. Dexter. Well, yeah, Dexter. I was thinking
more so like there was an episode of Law and
Order where the crime tech guy. Yeah. You know,
was. was hunting various people down, but he
worked in the crime lab at the SVU, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. Again, Dexter. Sorry. No,
I know. Yeah, that's fine. I don't anything against
that show. I just I've never really watched it
that much. Oh, yeah. You know, so that's where
I thought they were going to go with McDermott,
but they went the complete other opposite way.
And he's the new recruit. But he is just. digging
himself a big old hole that he can be buried
outside of the Hollywood sign because he makes
all these jokes about Scarlett Johansson and
Yada yada yada. Yeah, I Should say I should have
said this at the top of this part of the show
but the the pilot opens with With that scene
and then we go to Or it might be interplayed
between each other but There's a scene in the
very beginning before we'd meet Dylan McDermott's
character where Maggie Q is at a school or something
doing some sort of lecture and she says, because
they bring it up, because it's LA, it's Hollywood,
they have to bring it up, but what about celebrity
stalkers? And she says only 10 % of stalking
is celebrity related. I believe that statistic,
but I don't think a lot of people would because
of the fact that that's the news. Like we don't
get, you know, news reports on your next door
neighbor or the girl across town. You don't get
news reports like that in this day and age because
everybody wants to know what the hell celebrities
are doing and blah, blah, blah. Well, that and
then you really don't find focus on stocking
until. Something drastic has happened such as
oh the kid, you know The guy killed his next
-door neighbor because he had a crush on her
and you don't find that out until afterwards
Yeah, absolutely My next note was man this show
is interesting but very scary and I don't mean
You know Freddy jumps and claw, you know and
claws you to death kind of scary I mean, holy
hell who is following me kind of scary because
like seriously this show really makes you think
oh, yeah about your surroundings yeah um because
we have you know as the show progresses um they
go through the crime scene uh and another girl's
apartment and they you know they they show that
oh you know she sleeps with her body to the door
so she can see who's coming and blah blah we
then skip to Beth at home She does the same thing.
So something is going on with Beth Davis Like
we know that she's they have an outright said
it but she's either been stocked before or Something
has happened to her in her vest and I like that.
They didn't outright Tell us right away in the
pilot. Well, especially with the way that she
mentioned it, you know All this woman was this
woman was stalking me my you know, she went after
me and my husband You know she boiled my kids
rabbit and he's like yeah fatal attraction. I
saw that too I love that it was intertwined.
It was very well done Hey, you kind of thought
at first that yeah, she was gonna be talking
about this and then no No, well, I think in that
end scene at the end of the at the end of the
pilot She was kind of throwing the joke back
in his face from what he was doing earlier. So
yeah Come to find out during this whole pilot,
we have the secondary storyline with these two
college roommates or former roommates, Perry.
What's his name? Perry Whitney or Whitey or,
I don't know, some bulger kid. Horrible, horrible
joke. You got Perry and you've got Eric and Perry
says that, oh no, Eric's just super weird, super
creepy, blah blah blah, where it's actually Perry
who is super weird, super creepy. And he is essentially
stalking Eric. And again, you have that standard
trope of television and movies where the dean
in the school don't want to make a big deal out
of it because Perry's, you know, from an affluent
family and... Yeah has money and our big contributors
like dead poet society all over again, honestly
You know, it's it's that kind of thing and What
surprised I think the most surprised as far as
character out of this is honestly Beth Davis
because I was not expecting her to stalk the
stalker No, I was so is not expecting that But
that then turns on her at the end. Because the
end of the show, we see him outside her house.
Yeah. And my wife, that was something my wife
said. She's like, she's going, so what's going
on with this? You know, he's following her now
because she was torturing him. And I'm like,
hell, I don't know. You know, that was my attitude
with it. You know. Did like how everything with
the story in this episode connected together
like you have the first girl who dated this older
guy and Broke it off once you found she found
out he was married and you know, and then we
tie it around to Laurie Lauren Kate was the name
of the first girl. You know, you tied around
to the African American girl Lori and the whole
parking garage scene and yeah, where she actually
fights back, which I thought that was really
good that they showed that, you know, she fought
back to get to get away from him. And it turns
out that all of this is kind of going around
where where Larry could be the stalker. Oh, but
wait, no, they all know the jib. Spin spins inside
spin instructor Knows them all and everything
else and turns out to be Larry and the spin instructor
together because they were both rebuffed by Kate
and Laurie Yeah, and that whole scene where we
find out that he's got somebody else. That was
fucking creepy Oh, and I said chill that was
like I'm watching this and I'm like, oh my god.
Oh And the the video is probably what creeped
me out. Yeah, it's in the video. It shows someone
filming Larry next to Lori And then at one point
the camera moves up and down vertically Like
someone's nodding with the camera. It was like
oh god So creepy yeah, I like stalker so far
I'm I Don't know I'm I Don't know what are your
would you continue to watch this or no? I'll
I'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt I
will probably watch at least another episode
or two before I make further judgment on it,
but right now my thoughts are one Maggie Q put
a little bit more clothes on please. Yeah, you're
hot but Your top at the beginning of the show
needed another button Okay, I'm sorry. I is you
know as Dylan McDermott mentioned. I stared at
your breast too much mm -hmm yeah, I kind of
was doing the same thing and it was really kind
of distracting I'm like Where is the story going
to go besides staring at Maggie Q's boobs? Yeah,
you know that was that was the one thing and
then just the whole stalking thing that he's
doing Don't know I I'm not liking it so far I
will give it a little bit more of a chance before
I really say no I'm not gonna watch it anymore,
but I'm at that point almost already I'll give
it another couple of episodes so far for this
pilot episode because it just premiered this
week Or well it premiered a week ago as of this
airing So I'll give it a couple more episodes.
I think what we may end up doing, ladies and
gentlemen, is, if at all possible, at the end
of the seasons... I know I've said before on
the show, we may or may not do finishing finales
on all of these new series, but I think I may
also do an episode where, if we didn't... Keep
up with any of the new shows that we did pilot
premieres for we'll do in like an all All -encompassing
episode like okay What shows did you keep up
with what shows didn't you keep up with and we'll
then talk about the ones you didn't keep up with
There you go So I think that's how that's gonna
work What would you how many remotes are you
going to give this pilots Well, I'm probably
gonna give it a I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna
say two and a half out of five Okay, only because
it did hold my interest. I do want to see a little
bit more of the story but at the same time I'm
like and It just really wasn't that interesting
to me. I mean it was it was too creepy to you
know The bit where the guy the spin instructor
pops out and grabs her, you know Goes to kidnappers
scared the crap out of me and my wife, you know
again We're watching it all in the dark at 10
o 'clock at night Bad idea. Yeah But you know,
we're both jumping we're both going. Oh shit
shit. What the hell, you know Yeah, I don't know
that I want to watch something like that again
Yeah, well and you got to look at who this is
coming from this is created by the scream guy
This is created by Kevin Williamson so Yes, I
jumped up at that scene that you're talking about
when he was under the rug, but at this point,
knowing who this show was created by, I can't
help but expect moments like that now because
of what he did with the Scream franchise. For
me, I'm going to give it... two and a half remotes.
There are certain things I like about it, there
are certain things that worry me about it, and
then the rest of it I'm just so unsure of. It
didn't blow me away. Like you said, Maggie Q
is hot, but that hotness can only take you so
far. I mean, this wasn't like... what we had
a week ago when we talked about Scorpion. Comparing
this to Scorpion, oh god, I'd watch Scorpion
again before I watched this. If I had to choose
between the two of them. But it just, I gotta
see what is gonna be going on further, at least
for a couple episodes. And if by the third episode
it doesn't get me hooked and it creeps me out
more than what it already has, I'll probably
end up dropping this. Yeah. I mean, part of the
feel with this here that I got was I watched
it and all I could think was it's a lot like
CSI where they have two or three stories going
in one episode. And you've got that feeling and
it just didn't hook. I'm like, I've seen this
sort of style before and I didn't care for it
then. But who knows? Who knows maybe maybe there
will be a bunch of people that'll be like I really
like this show and they'll keep up with it Keep
it on the air Not me Yeah, that's this is very
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