Recapping Season 3 of Transformers Animated

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been megatron! you're going down! episode of

Transformation Animation Podcast features Stephen

C. Phillips, Mike Blanchard, and Michael Wilson.

I watched Kermit the Frog on YouTube earlier

complaining about customer service. Cue the radio

voice. Hello and welcome to episode 16 of Transformation

Animation Podcast. I am one of your hosts, D

.O .G. and Mike, and joining me is Steve Megatron.

Hello. Hello. Pecan Court Michael, hello. Hey,

how's it going? It's going and returning from

Cybertron Optimus solo. Hello. It's been a long

strange trip, but I'm back And you survived So

far space bridge did not malfunction not yet

Today we are going to be recapping season 3 of

Transformers animated. So Steve, what have you

been up to? Nothing much besides playing DC online

You see universe online because it's free so

I've been playing that and I Have because you're

only allowed two characters for the free account

so I have one bad one good and One that looks

kind of like Batman and is mentored by Batman

and one that kind of looks like the Joker and

is mentored by the Joker Surprise surprise. Yes

It's awesome Although I still am waiting for

Arkham City to come out on the PC because it

keeps getting delayed, bastards. Really? Yeah,

for some reason. No interest. What? No interest.

I'll send Captain Clown after you. Actually,

I'm in the parking lot of the GameStop right

now. I've been waiting here for three days for

my copy of Skyrim Boo You guys don't play the

Elder Scrolls games come on I'm saying boo for

the whole game Oh, no, yeah, I did see the line

outside the GameStop the other night though.

That was crazy Speaking of modern warfare. I

guess over in the UK somebody Held up a couple

of semis and stole a million dollars worth of

them Really? Yeah, that's what I heard I read

an article this guy bought a copy Drove home

and someone had followed him into his parking

lot and then tried to mug him and take his game

That's why I don't play video games. He ran up

and beat the guy up. It's the 90s with Michael

Jordan shoes all over again. That's why you go

on Steam and you download it. There's no physical

copy, bastard. I want to hold it in my hands.

Yeah, this just increases piracy now. I've never

played those. I mean, I like first person shooters,

but I've never played the Call of Duty games.

The modern warfare games. I forget which one

it is. Is Call of Duty Modern Warfare what it's

called? There we go. It looks really good. I've

seen the video. So, Michael, what have you been

up to? This month is National Novel Writing Month.

Yeah, so I'm writing a novel. Totally writing

a novel. It's turning out to be more like a short

story You're supposed to write 55 ,000 words

in a month and I've got 16 chapters planned and

as it stands each one is about 500 to a thousand

words and that's 16 ,000 words and I'm not gonna

get anywhere near 55 ,000, but this is my first

try so Yeah, you know, it's it's a nice first

try. It's an interesting story When I'm done

with it, I'll probably burn it Yeah, but it's

a nice first try Don't burn it Well, you know,

I like Christy read the first chapter and she

was like, did you write this? I'm like, yeah,

she's like this is dumb Well, you know, it's

it's stupid sci -fi so Nothing to do with transformers.

Although that's probably what I should have wrote

just for fun because I know that better than

almost anything else but But I didn't want to

go that route. I don't want I don't want to go

down the creepy fanfiction route, you know Well,

the only way you could go down the creepy fanfiction

route is if you melded g1 beast wars beast machines

animated and primal all together Shut up. I think

that was Cybertron Oh my goodness, I have been

on a movie marathon for behind the voice actors

i've added so many movies in the last i don't

know two or three weeks i've never heard of at

least every time i see you post about each movie

i added one of the alvin and the chipmunks meet

the wolfman i did uh... astro boy i did uh...

barnyard i did all four bionicle movies uh...

What else have I done? Here's the ones that you

haven't heard of are the Ralph Bakshi ones, Cool

World, Coonskin. I did the movie based on the

video game Dead Space, Downfall. Dirty Duck,

which is not a rated G movie. Fire and Ice, Fritz

the Cat, another one that's not rated G. The

last one I just did was Happily Ever After, the

filmation version of Snow White. So trying to

get our speaking of Snow White. I've gotten into

a debate with someone on Twitter Because I well

and I know I know Stephen Kevin don't care about

this. I don't know how Michael feels about this,

but I found get glue and it's just addicting

and I watched the Snow White in the Huntsman

trailer It's probably the best rendition of Snow

White ever, because that animated movie sucks

ass. And I got into a debate on Twitter with

somebody about this. He's like, person's like,

that's blasphemy. That movie is great. I was

like, here. go to tune cast episode twenty nine

snow white listen to kevin and i's thoughts and

then you can debate me if the movie is that great

because i'm sorry that is i don't care how many

people say oh it's it's number one because it's

it's the first or whatever else that movie sucks

but snow in the huntsman the new movie coming

out next year looks pretty decent i think michael

wants to say something well first of all I didn't

realize that you were an expert on the lore behind

the Snow White story. I realize that once a classic

folklore gets fed into the Disney meat grinder,

it doesn't come out quite the same. And yet,

that's the accepted version for almost everyone.

And secondly, how many renditions of the story

have there really been? The Disney version, the

version with Drew Barry, I mean, there's so many

different... There's a Drew Barrymore version?

Oh, no, wait, that's the Cinderella story. Because

I would watch the hell out of that, yeah. There's

the Filmation version that I just talked about.

Yeah, there's the Filmation version. That's seven

female dwarves. But they're all troll -like things.

Wow. Awesome. Lesbian dwarves, lovely. Yeah,

so it's just like, oh, what was the movie that

came out not too long ago? It was... With the

big bad wolf it was it was it was a it was a

new version of Snow White No, they had Little

Red Riding Hood. I'm sorry nice. No, it was really

bad. Sorry I'm sorry. It was a little new version

of Little Red Riding Hood with the Big Red Wolf

and You know that was supposed to be oh the new

version and I Could just couldn't get into it

and I'm afraid I'm gonna go see this new movie

and say folklore type shows and they're trying

to capitalize on the you know what is the twilight

slash you know supernatural phenomenon and right

that's what little red riding hood was gonna

be and i'm guessing that's what snow white they're

gonna do with that too it's just a darker more

adult version of these fairy tales in live -action

cg right after the after the disney version there

was uh... all new Quote unquote live version

was done as a West German film in 1955 In 1961

which is a parody An episode of the pretty bunch

was dedicated to it Well the thing with the filmation

a little known fact here filmation actually at

one point had planned to do follow -up sequel

slash prequel movies to all of the Disney movies

in their version, but they only got through this

Snow White one and one other one, and I think

it was either like a Peter Pan or 101 Dalmatians,

and then they didn't continue that, but originally

they were going to do something out based off

all the different Disney movies, and that would

have been kind of interesting, but my problem

with Snow White has nothing to do with the Snow

White lore or the Snow White story. My problem

with Snow White is people saying that it's the

best Disney movie ever. Oh no, it's ancient.

Yeah, and you can't hold it up against so many

other Disney movies that were way better, and

that's my problem. I don't have a problem with

Snow White as compared to other Snow Whites.

My problem is Snow White compared to other Disney

movies. If you're 90 years old, it was awesome

back in the day when you were used to seeing

all black and white movies and then a 34 minute

color animated film. You can't hold that up next

to like a Lion King. Yeah, Lion King, you know,

Little Mermaid in Aladdin smashed the hell out

of it. Oh, yeah. No, those are awesome. Those

are the new classics, to be honest. And yes,

folks, this is Transformers animated. One more

thought here before we go. As far as I'm concerned,

any of these new movies that are coming out that

are trying to twilightify the old folklores,

I can't get into it because... vampires don't

sparkle well except for that last second before

they burst in the flame when the time hits them

in the case of Snow White and the Huntsman it's

one of the better remakes it's one of the better

newer stylized movies thank god well the thing

about Little Red Riding Hood I think it hasn't

come out yet how can you even say that because

I like the trailer damn it Another blaster just

made an opinion it is law don't contradict it.

Fuck you guys. I'm going home I thought what

was interesting about that is that the whole

movie I don't I haven't seen it But I thought

the idea was that you don't know who the big

bad wolf is it's one of the other characters

in the movie And they're supposed to be some

type of mystery involved in that or suspense.

I saw it coming a mile away Okay, I haven't seen

the movie. So I was hoping it was gonna be good

when I saw it. It's very pretty. It's a pretty

movie It's it's a really nice period piece, you

know, it's not like it's not like you have villagers

in the 13th century wearing mascara, you know

It does it's a it's a very pretty movie. It's

just Not what I expected. I really expected to

be really kind of deep horror and It wasn't Something

more important talking about get glue and We

don't get glue or else I'll rip Mike a new one.

No, you won't It's such an annoying thing to

see pop up on Twitter every five seconds It's

better than four square. It's almost as bad You

know, it's better than four square. Anyway, we're

gonna get into the season three recap of Transformers

animated. What are you better? My dad put Megatron

parts in me? Ew! We are back, and as I said,

we're gonna be recapping Season 3. We have a

few different categories for this. We have favorite

episodes, favorite characters, favorite moments,

and then we have least favorite moments, least

favorite episodes, and least favorite characters.

And then each of us will give our overall thoughts

on Season 3 individually. Starting out with favorite

episodes for me. It's fairly fairly simple Transwarp,

where is thy sting? Predacons rising decepticon

air. This is why I hate machines in endgame You

just named half the episodes in the season. Well,

that's because though they're all the good ones

There's like nine episodes in the season and

you just named six of them there's 13 Well, I'm

not counting the two -parters Blanchard has formed

an opinion and that opinion is law I love Transwarp

for all the homages, I love seeing Rodimus in

that. I love the story, what they did with Wasp

in Where is Thy Staying. Obviously the Beast

Wars references in Predacons Rising. I would

love to see... I love how enhanced you are on

your favorite episodes. Shut up. I would love

to see an animated version of, and I mean animated

as far as animation, an animated film version

of Con Air, because I think that would be hilarious.

sigh shut up all the world needs is more nick

cage oh god here we go my hair is a bird your

argument he never ages he's from the civil war

time didn't you see that picture yes that is

great yeah This is why I hate machines just for

all the cameos and all the Cybertronian stuff

and the jazz moments and the shockwave moments

and that was really great and of course endgame

because it Even though we all well, maybe not

all of us Kevin probably didn't want this But

even though most of the transformers animated

fandom wanted a season four I think endgame kind

of put a very distinct period on on the series

Especially with that last 54 seconds of music.

That's just awesome So Steve, do you have any

favorite episodes? I know I know I know you have

at least one pass. No, I'm just playing No, I

would say probably trans warped was was a good

All of it Yeah, give or take I mean a few that

were displayed but you know, I Had master and

all that crap now hold on wait a second shut

your pie hole it's my turn that wasn't headmaster

that was the headmaster unit ah blow it out your

ass um Predacons rising that would be my next

one and end game that's it of course you'd head

straight for the beast wars episode oh yeah I

would that was the best series of all of them

the only one that matters in the long run What

about you for favorite episodes from season 3?

Gonna start off with five servos of doom I like

the prowl backstory Anything with Lance Hendrickson

in it has my vote George Takai gets a voice There's

ninjas, which is always awesome and I want to

say the downside is that they introduced the

new quote -unquote, the starry's key of season

three, which is a processor over matter. And

I actually think they introduced it earlier as

a kind of a concept, but this is the first time

that it's actually been a key part of an episode.

Secondly, this is why I hate machines. You know,

we get to, I'm not a huge fan of a fan zone.

a fan zone fan, if you will. But this is nice

because we visit Cybertron and there's a lot

of cameos, a lot of cameos. We get to see Metroplex

in city mode, there's a purple shockwave, Rat

Trap is there. One of my favorite lines is, robot

dame in a room, explains everything. I thought

that was great. Decepticon Air was good. because

Fred Willard was in it. He comes back. The clones

get G1 helmets, which I really like. Alpha Trion

made an appearance. And at the very end, there's

a homecoming parade with lots of G1 cameos. It's

a crowd scene. I like that. Yeah, so those, I

think, some of my favorites. You have to take

Transwarped, you know, as a given, and... At

the end yeah at the end of the season you have

to Take endgame as a given but in between you

know, those are the three I like the most Yeah

Okay, now I gotta edit this damn it yeah, no,

it's like Did you could did you crap out that

time I noticed that the No, it was Kevin. Yeah,

my whole thing shut down. It was all Kevin's

fault. Oh, okay. Last thing I heard, Mike was

still talking about his shows. Oh, well then

you missed all of... Oh, fuck. All of me yapping.

Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Alright. Which shows did

you like, Mike? That sounded like bullet points.

Uh, oh. And Kevin, what are your... If you even

have any favorite episodes from season 3, what

are they? Well apparently you weren't paying

attention because I gave quite a few episodes

high ratings. Well just because you give them

high ratings doesn't mean your overall opinion

of the series is good. So I mean as far as season

three, what do you like for episodes? I like

three episodes kind of stand out for me above

any of the other ones. I'd probably put them

as the three of the better episodes over not

just this season but the entire series. One of

them is This Is Why I Hate Machines. There was

just a lot of cool moments a lot of a Cybertronian

based Environments and storylines going on there.

So that was cool Decepticon air. I just thought

that was all kinds of goodness and The other

one was where is that sting? I really liked where

is that sting? It was really cool. Mm -hmm. That's

surprising because I Have that on my list of

not favorites Like where's this thing because

you had you know you start off with jazz and

ultra Magnus. That's cool You have some awesome

moments from shockwave The whole wasp and bumblebee

thing was fine The only thing I didn't really

like about that episode was the you know Jetstorm

and Jetfire part, but and I had a good ending

of that episode I thought too, so those are my

three favorites. I don't like any one of them

more than the other I think they're all on equal

ground, but decepticon air. This is why I hate

machines and where does I stay? So, moving into

our favorite characters from Season 3, we're

going to mix it up a bit. Steve, why don't you

go first? Any favorite characters from Season

3? Yes. I would say, first of all, Yoki -Tron.

Despite the fact that he was only in the one

episode. Not only did he look cool, but he had

a legendary voice. As far as... Star Trek actor

that's how I mean legendary not that not Frank

Walker Yeah Rodimus Prime Also because they got

back the original voice actor Yeah, Judd Nelson.

Yes, so that that's why he's epic and awesome

Waspinator despite the fact that he was nothing

like the other the Beast Wars one other than

similar appearance I still like the character

and finally I'd have to say Omega Supreme just

because he's a big -ass ship I have no main characters

in there so take that shit Kevin what about you

favorite characters from season 3? I also have

none of the original main characters except for

one I kind of broke down in the three different

groups as far as like just like little cameos

or quick appearances or one episode type things

I liked Alpha Trion RC and the very brief appearances

of tracks warpath and Metroplex Tracks, especially

I thought was a great appearance and I know metropolis

didn't talk or transform, but he was there damn

it As far as like the more minor characters that

at least got a little bit of time I guess not

minor characters, but I liked swindle. He had

some cool moments in this season Lockdown, of

course made a reappearance and an ultra Magnus

I liked a little bit more this season than I

did before as far as the major characters that

I love in this season obviously jazz is epically

awesome in this whole series. And then as far

as this season specifically, I thought Shockwave

and Starscream really had some shining moments.

I liked them more and more the more I saw them

in this season, so Shockwave and Starscream really

kind of came to the forefront. And I think the

best developed character in the entire series

was actually Blackarachnia. I know there wasn't

a ton of episodes on her, but I just feel like

they did more with that character than they did

with 90 % of the main characters. A story and

a sob story. Well, it was, but they really kind

of went into the emotion of it. They went into

her battling the balance between the organic

and the robotic or whatever you want to call

the other part. And it kind of tied into the

whole Sentinel Prime. Optimist feud and ultra

Magnus angle and everything kind of tied around

that one event with black or acne I just thought

they developed her better than they did like

let's say bumblebee or bulkhead or even you know

ratchet to a point So I guess I give a shout

out to black or acne. I didn't think I'd like

her but I did What about you Michael I liked

oh First of all, let me clarify here. Oh As far

as just Season 3 goes... Yeah, Season 3 characters.

Season 3, okay good. Because I was going to say,

out of the entire series, my favorites would

have to be the Starscream clones. Yeah, this

is just the Season 3 recap. The overall series

recap comes later in Episode 20. Okay. Well,

yeah, even here Starscream clones are pretty

cool. I like Starscream's head. Because he was

ahead of his time. He should have stopped while

he was ahead. Yes Yeah, but but out of just season

three Characters, they were only in season three.

I got to go with Yoki Tron. I agree. He's uh,

he's awesome and not just because it's George

Takei But because he's an homage to Hideyeko

Yoki who actually created he was the designer

who created the first transformer Way back in

the Daikon days Other characters that are just

in s3 I Mean it's not a whole lot. I mean, there's

gotta be like waspinator dirt boss Warpath maybe

but he doesn't really count. He was only there

for a second And then there's safeguard, but

but he's in my list of not favorites so So out

of the characters that were just in season 3

There's not a whole lot to choose from but but

you'll keep trying fits the bill the and the

head of Starscream fits the bill Okay, then and

for me, obviously, I am a Rodimus fanboy. So

that was awesome seeing him seeing him updated

I agree with Kevin on jazz jazz's is just amazing

I wish we actually had more of soundwave in his

key tars. I really like those Finally shockwave

gets his true colors. That was awesome. And just

shockwave in general is awesome blur blur even

though sadly He's dead I Never like blur. It's

kind of happy when he died Shut up. There's no

nice homage. Yes It was a really good moment.

I just didn't like him as a g1 character and

I didn't like him as an animated character I

like him better an animated because he'd repeat

himself over and over and over again. No Yeah,

I mean it was nice that they use John Machida

You know to reprise the voice, but I just didn't

get into that character And finally probably

even though she didn't get enough screen time

RC I Wish that there was more with her as far

as that goes So moving on to favorite moments.

Oh boy here we go Kevin any favorite moments

Yeah, I got a few. When Shockwave got his true

colors, it was a pretty cool moment. I really

liked out of all the flashbacks, I really liked

the one with Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus,

where Ultra Magnus basically, you know... Punished

him to a point and then gave him his own command

even though it was just you know the maintenance

crew Whatever, but I liked that whole flashback

sequence with with prime and Magnus. I thought

that was well done I liked most of the scenes

on Cybertron Most of those moments were pretty

cool, especially when they showed the the council

and a couple couple different things on Cybertron

As far as like one of my favorite lines I think

was waspinator or wasps before he got put into

the Chamber he's like, no, thank you. Yeah Hilarious

And yeah and Starscream being the comedic relief

in season three was just awesome Starscream's

head was pretty cool my favorite moment of all

of his was when he landed on Megatron ship and

was it one that's asim if we're picking up hitchhikers

now or something does the other way around star

scream was in the ship and will love that we're

not on the ship that's that's when that that

moment was pretty cool as for my number one favorite

moments of season three pral's death all this

you know it right i cry i cheered but i can't

even tell you what Really? I'm just indifferent

to it at this point. You're a hateful bastard.

All y 'all. Well, I wanted more jazz. I'd give

a shit less about Prowl. I want a G1 Prowl. He's

my favorite G1 character. They bastardized him.

I would have been happier if G1 Prowl was more

like animated Prowl. I like that character. Don't

ever say that. G1 of these poor ninjas. more

viable than just not like now they don't budget

it as it did this to create new characters away

there to have bludgeon's characters like that

so those are comic exclusives so that was the

only ninja they needed exactly for uh... steve

any favorite moments from season three done whatsoever

no i'm just playing uh... Where Rodimus is taking

on the Decepticons by the space bridge Mm -hmm

and shooting them with his dual -arrow bow and

arrow Like the Ranger yeah, and then he went

to cosmic rust so he died fucking oil slick but

um I Agree with Kevin on the scene with Wasp

where he's like no. Thank you when he goes in

there. That's a great line. No, he doesn't go

in there, she throws him in there. I know, but

I mean, still. Jumping to later in that same

episode, I like the very end where Blackarachnia

is teleported to in front of a ape, a rhino,

a cheetah, and a giant rat. Yeah. You're thinking

too deeply into this. I know. This is the same

person that wishes they'd come out with a masterpiece

dragon Megatron that turns into the Beast Machines.

That would be cool. It would be cool never happened,

but it'd be cool. Yeah Yeah, they're gonna keep

re -releasing Prime I think it would happen if

the Beast Machine series had been better received

in Japan. I think it may have happened if Hasbro

had learned how to make actual action figures

around that time instead of these clunky pieces

of shit, but anyways Yeah, uh and then of course

the very end of animated where prime and his

crew Have the Decepticons in tow and he has the

Magnus hammer and the matrix around his neck

Yes, I'm surprised. That's not everyone's favorite

moment. Well, it was a scene of the Transformers

the movie the real movie. Yeah. Yeah We know

what you mean by Transformers the movie. It's

not yeah, it's not Transformers Revenge of the

Fallen Dark of the Moon Michael what about you

for favorite moments from season 3? Favorite

moments I liked a snarl getting named by scrapper

He says I was going to call him slag, but I think

he took that as an insult Personally, I wouldn't

end up with Slag anyway. Just for purest reasons.

It's just no good reason to call him Starl. There's

a good reason, but still. He's Slag. He'll always

be Slag. I liked the Brundle teleporters in Predacons

Rising. And they showed the in followed by the

that line that everyone loves no, thank you I

Just I think that's hilarious. I really liked

it when Prime got his wings He's flying through

the air and he says excellent. Yes Makes it sound

like an angel getting his wings. Yeah. Wow. Yeah,

exactly. You drink Red Bull It's wings, but it

didn't sound anything like Beast Wars Megatron,

but it was a nice homage there And it was pretty

cool. It's too bad. He had to have his ass handed

to him by slipstream But that was cool, I like

to think the slipstream got away oh she did yeah

And you know I have to agree with the that final

scene with the music and they're standing there

and they're all in a row and He's got the hammer

prime has the hammer and the matrix around his

neck It was just a really cool scene We'll have

to remember to link that image that Mike sent

out last week Yeah, I can I can put it back in

in the episode 16 post. That's not a problem

Yeah, I'd say it's so awesome. You should put

it in every post. No, that's just how cool it

is No here on out every put in fact I want to

try really hard to kind of find all the figures

and reenact that scene or so epic I'll talk to

you about that off -air, because I actually have

a job for you with your toys. So, talk to you

about that off -air. Are you going to say anything

else about favorite moments? That's all my favorite

moments. Okay. For me, sadly, even though it

was only the five minutes he got, anything with

Rodimus. Surprise, surprise. Anything with Jazz.

I think Phil Lamar did an amazing, updated, cool,

hip voice with jazz and It's pretty vague for

favorite moments. It's just like okay Well thing

with jazz was in like five or six episodes And

jazz was awesome in in every episode He was in

was there a particular thing that jazz did that

was more awesome than every other thing that

he did when he said That he never listened to

Sentinel Prime. Anyway, yes Honestly, I think

for jazz he has a very unique character turn

from season two to season three because throughout

season two of the times that we did see him in

season two he's just kind of going along with

it and then sentinel constantly continues to

piss him off and by the time I think it's this

is yeah this is why we this is why I hate machines

he says screw it I'm not dealing with him anymore

I'm on your team now uh... phil did such an excellent

excellent job i wish i had i thought i i edited

the interview with phil and i put it up a particular

upon you to when he we asked him uh... did they

want you to do scatman or do they want you to

do your own thing with the with the voice me

said well if they ask me to scatman once you

have scatman your head it's it's kind of hard

to do anything else And we had asked him if he

could, you know, give us animated jazz in, you

know, in a Scatman voice and he did it and it

was so awesome. I just wish I had a slightly

cleaner version of it. It's still very... Was

it vulgar? No, no, no, no. Slightly cleaner as

far as audio quality. Oh, okay. Woo, all right.

No, no, no. When he was doing the voice, you

know... When we're in interviews and we hear...

There's the audio quality, not the... Yeah, not

the quality of his voice, no. The audio quality

of the recording as far as because in the middle

of the line, I go to start to say something and

he hadn't finished and I'm like, oh God, I need

to shut the hell up now. But it was just so awesome

that he did that for us. It was so great. So

yeah, anything with jazz. I do like the character

development for Optimus. You know, each of the

main characters have their own story. Well, minus,

you know, that stupid energon farm bullshit.

Starfish on an energon farm, I'll just never

get over that. You know, I do like the overall

character development for Optimus. Shockwave

is by far the most vicious villain. Are we talking

about characters or moments? No moments, but

I'm just saying I The moments that I liked with

optimus were all the character developments with

learning about his backstory with you know those

types of moments as far as shockwave You know

he's such a a badass villain that any scene with

him is awesome I specifically like the The eye

into the camera fade is he's going to attack

Ratchet and this is why I hate machines. And

then they cut away from it and then they cut

back to it. I thought that was awesome. And of

course all the cameos. So not really a spoiler

warning here, but for those of you who are...

Fainted heart or don't like to hear us curse

a lot because we are an explicit podcasting network

It's best to turn back now because we're getting

into a lot of the negative stuff. So these last

categories are all the least Categories and we're

starting with least favorite moments Kevin. What

are your least favorite moments? I know they're

numerous I've narrowed it down to only a handful

of the worst of the worst. I think 25 First of

all the moments where Autobots Do things that

are non Autobot esque Not Autobot Lee Drinking

oil I just hate every time they put a scene of

Transformers drinking anything because I think

it sends a bad message to kids That's the teacher

and coming out I especially didn't like when

they had the Autobots destroying the city That's

just not something I'm about to do they wouldn't

have done it When they're taking buildings and

stuff in there Oh god, I'm forgetting which episode

that was it was towards the end and they're Throwing

they're like picking up buildings and ripping

them apart and throwing them at people to throwing

them at a deceptive kind of stop them or something

Shoot, I can't remember what what episode that

is. I'll look it up here in a little bit, but

It's not that, you know, I can understand that

there was a purpose in it and that it made sense,

but it's still not something that's in the Autobots

programming to do something like that. So I just

don't like seeing that because it just doesn't

make sense to me, I guess. Is that the one where

they, where they're in Tigatron Stadium and they

tear down the billboard? Yeah. Ah, okay. So those

are just little nitpicks about like when Autobots

don't act like Autobots to me. The whole spitwad

and snot scenes with Falzone. Those were some

of my least favorite moments. There was just

there was ways to do that without being completely

grotesque but I Understand it's organic and that

but there was ways to to show the organic side

without having a spitwad Haines and to get across

to them that hey look you fear this I understand

that I'm saying there was other ways to do that

Besides having a giant spitwad hanging from somebody's

mouth other fans on drop his pants and piss all

over They didn't need to show it graphically

He just reaches around and gets a big stick fist

to chase his rat trap around with it. I would

have rather had him stick his finger in his own

nose and then pointed at him. I'm just seeing

a spitwad hanging three feet in the air. That

was horrible, yeah. Let's see, my other moments...

I'll just narrow it down to the two final ones,

I guess. The Beast Wars reunion at the end of

Predacons Rising. I know Steve likes it, but...

I hated it. I loved all the other Beast Wars

moments in that episode. I just did not like

the finish with him showing, Black Ragnar showing

up in front of the animals that would never be

together. And the last one... Unless it was leading

into something else, which it wasn't because

you're thinking too deeply into it. Exactly,

I had no point. It was a bad ending to a good

episode. And the final least favorite moment...

Is the Allspark gathering in the final episode?

The meditative Allspark gathering. Oh, the processor

over matter jam session? Yeah, that was stupid.

I think it was fine up until... Prowl died. I

think it was fine up until the part where they

decided to do it. Because it's just a cop -out

easy way to end the problem that they were having,

and it was absolutely retarded that the Cyber

Ninjas were the end -all be -all of Transformers

animated. I like the idea that Season four would

have started with a non fragmented All spark.

I mean it wouldn't have been yeah, it wouldn't

have been the gotta -catch -em -all mentality

of let's say like season three where oh, there's

all these all spark fragments We have to gather

up and right here. I missed something different

I missed something under my least favorite moments.

That's in all capital letters. I don't know how

I missed it cyber ninja Bullshit. Okay, I'm done.

Anything that had to do with cyber ninjas. Steve,

do you have any least favorite moments for Season

3? Anytime a human appears. Which wasn't very

much in Season 3. Anytime the Constructicons

appear. When the Expendables appear. If you don't

catch the Expendables, that's... yeah, that's...

You're shitty at about replacements. Um Yes,

I caught that yes, um Let me see what else uh

the death of blur That's true, I agree I cheered

yeah, you should be punching the balls sir I

don't know there are too many for me to actually

count Well, there are some I didn't talk about

because they're just entire episodes but yeah

Yeah, I was gonna go there. But yeah, we're gonna

get there when we get the least favorite episodes.

So Anything else Steve for least favorite moments

I think you better pass Michael least favorite

moments Least favorite moments snarl not getting

a speaking role. Yes You know, I think Snarl

should... I think he should speak. He's a Dinobot,

not a Doggybot. Slag should definitely speak.

Slag, exactly. Slag should be speaking. We should

name him Slag, and make him speak. And if he's

gonna speak, he should be like... That's why

you couldn't talk, because people kept calling

him the wrong name. Exactly. He's like, I don't

respond to Snarl. That's not my name. It hasn't

been my name for 20 years. That's the other guy.

We figured it out. Exactly, that was a problem.

I mean, it's cute. Oh, he's a dog, you know,

woof woof, you know. I like the interaction between

him and Scrapper while he's a dog, but I'd rather

have him have a speaking role. And then that

leads into my second least favorite moment, which

is the general misuse of Dinobots. You know,

Grimlock is there when he shouldn't be, and then

he's not there when he should be. You know, they

throw him in there, just, why the hell is he

here? He's like, urr, urr, urr, and then he walks

away, and that's it for the scene. It's like

they introduced the Dinobots thinking that they

were going to use them at some point, and then

they never had a use for them. So then every

once in a while they're like, oh, we got to feature

the Dinobots. But their storyline never went

anywhere. Exactly. And that was my whole issue.

And the thing is, is you've got Grimlock, who's

the only one that speaks, Swoop is thrown in

there whenever they need a flyer that's not a

jet. And then they introduce the jet twins The

sigh they introduced the jet twins and and then

swoop doesn't show up anymore. They don't need

a flyer now So a storyline that never got wrapped

up Yeah, no, they were just thoroughly wasted.

I mean wasted as characters I should say and

there's a lot of G1 storylines that involve the

Dinobots that they could have stolen from and

made new Or they could have just killed him,

which would have been fine for me. I'm not a

huge fan of Grimlock. I like seeing him. I like

seeing the Dinobots in general. The Dinobots

were my favorites as a kid. There could have

been some type of all -out epic battle between

the Constructicons and the Dinobots where everybody

just died. That would have been awesome! You

know season four we have the third boss who creates

Devastator and and they fight the Dinobots and

they all die on the island and then the island

sinks into the Sinks into the ocean and they

call it Atlantis or something and they become

shark to comes. Oh, oh god. Yeah Yeah Green and

purple shark to come So that no, okay. We've

just created an epic season four episode right

here Yes, let's get on that any other least favorite

moments I Don't know That's especially I suppose

there wasn't too much that hated this this season

For me, I only have to really because I didn't

really over analyze it so much as far as just

the general stuff, but I've hated bulkhead this

entire series and bulkhead as a human it is The

worst thing they ever did in this series because

he's even more gross than than when he was a

robot Low Road Yeah, yeah series is is one million

times worse than the low road. No Yes, bulkhead

excused himself to go to the toilet. He didn't

you know shoot missiles out of his ass for an

entire episode There's a huge difference here.

Are we forgetting the low road how awful it was?

I hate the low road, but I would rather watch

that than watch any more of the bathroom humor

and stupid robot talk in this series. Yes, the

robot talk is also a least favorite moment. Yes.

See, I don't mind the robot talk. That drives

me fucking batshit crazy. I think that's good

writing, to be honest. No, it's cheap writing.

No, you know, this is this is back to I want

to say, you know, how many times can you can

you actually say how many how many ways can you

do the The head joke, you know, he's ahead of

his time. He should have stopped while he was

ahead Well, the writers here take that to the

extreme every time and it's a lot of times it's

clever and a lot of times it's like oh man make

it stop but you know in this case i think you

know the fact that they've done it so many times

it makes it clever by by nature more than meets

the viz scanners is not clever It is well, I

don't know, you know, I've read enough of the

fanfiction, you know say well, why do they call

that? Why do they call them optics? Friggin fanfiction.

There's a lot of good fanfiction out there to

be honest. I mean, there's a lot of really good

stuff, but no, it's not fanfiction Yeah, I've

read a lot. Anyway, what it comes down to is,

you know, there's a lot of fan fiction out there

that's like oh Moving my servos or seeing things

with my optics there, you know or my olfactory

processor, you know Yeah, we get it. They don't

really have noses. All right, you know, and they

they're not they're not organic you got to describe

them in different ways, you know, I understand

but You know, sometimes it can get a little sickening

Steve what was okay besides the low road? What

was the worst episode in the Beast era outside

of that? Out of The Low Road? No. Besides that?

Besides The Low Road and the entire Beast Wars,

Beast Machines, both those cartoons, what was

the worst episode outside of The Low Road? None.

Come on! That's it. There was only one bad episode

and it was The Low Road. That's what you're saying.

Yes, no my what I was going to say was for me

he hates tangled web Okay. Yeah, there we go

I would much rather watch be forced to watch

tangled web over and over and over again than

watch anything with bulkhead as a human Because

he gets to hear tarantulas down there playing

with I just don't want to hear the word maximum

burn ever again unless it's from Anyway, moving

on, the other one for least favorite moments

I had, and Michael brought this up last week,

the fact that they start storylines, they start

a new storyline and they never even close it

off. Oh, yeah. We never found, like, okay, season

one, season two, Saray's his daughter, by the

time season two comes around... Oh wait, she's

not his daughter, she doesn't even exist. They

built that up so much. Season 3, she's a Cybertronian

and throughout Season 3, through her upgrade,

through her all this and all that, she starts

getting these extra sensory Cybertronian powers

of she can telepathically link to the machines

and this that and that. They specifically show

her in the ship. talking or communicating with

the proto forms and she says oh that's why i'm

here we never fucking get any resolution to the

sorry story whatsoever honestly as bad as this

is you know the way they built her up in the

way that she was the human that was not a human

she was the answer to everything she had the

key as sad as this is she to make this series

come full circle she should have been the one

that solved the problem in the last episode not

the cyber ninjas that should have been sorry

I wouldn't have liked it either but she should

have been the one that solved everything in the

end because she died well she could die yeah

that's fine but uh you know if the series was

going to be true to itself she should have just

solved everything by using some finger key or

something and just it makes sense you got a point

I yeah yeah no I agree All right, so moving on

to least favorite episodes now We have to start

with Kevin and his hatred for human error, I'm

sorry which episode Human error parts one and

part two. I don't remember an episode called

human. Yes, you do. Come on now I told you last

week because you didn't mention it in your clip

that on the recap you had to talk about Do you

know how many times in my notes I cuss in this?

Just go ahead, I've already said we're ex - people

have listened to us for two years now, they know

that we are ex - I actually used - I actually

used the word, fuck, shit, bitch. And, well I

guess those are the only cuss words I used in

there. Um, anyway. I have no problem with Soundwave,

let me get this right. You know, let me get that

straight, Soundwave is one of my all -time favorite

characters. Soundwave, being - merged with bluegrass

from Silverhawks playing a Sonic Attack Soundwave

guitar session I have a problem with. I thought

that was cool though. I thought that was the

worst moment of the episode. Okay but hold on

before you go any further they had to figure

out a way to homage the cassettes. the cassette

characters, without actually making Soundwave

back into the cassette deck boombox that no kid

in 2007 and beyond would know what the fuck a

cassette deck is. So the fact that Laser Beak

and Rat Bat are a guitar and keytar, I did like

that though. That's forgivable. Yeah. And then

we also get Prime with his axe. Oh, the Transformers

turning into humans. Um, I will say that Prime's

voice fit his human character better than his,

uh, robot. Well that's because the model of the

human is David Kaye. I know, I'm just saying.

But Bulkhead's voice did not fit the human character

at all. In my opinion. I thought Bulkhead's voice

only fit the Transformer, not the actual human

character. Um, I have written down here, sorry

is an ungrateful bitch. I don't know. uh... i

don't remember what that's in reference to because

she's going on she's because it this is the this

is the christmas episode the two -part winner

she she's going around showing them her new jetpack

and not realizing that they are not there they're

in trouble well and she was ungrateful every

time she opened a present or whatever from her

dad or all this other stuff she was just uh...

didn't like her in this episode uh... why did

the bombs from mario world show up in this episode

The bombs had teeth and faces. Like the Mario

1 sites. Oh! Yeah, I know what you're talking

about. Yeah. The Bob -ombs, yeah. It took me

a second. Why were the Bob -ombs in Transformers

animated? I don't know. I was confused. We got

another great anime sequence when Megatron showed

up. That was terrible. Then I have a note here

that says, this is so dumb. Followed by a note

that says you've got to be fucking kidding me.

Followed by a note that says it's taking everything

I have not to shut this shit off right now. Sorry.

The worst line in the entire series was uttered

in this episode. If you believe it here, you

can make it so. Are you kidding me? Somebody

actually wrote that? Oh my god. And my major

problem with this is it was a season one episode.

This was not a season three episode This this

was had nothing to do with anything else that

happened before or after it really Well, it is

a season three episode in the essence that we

already had sound waves introduction So he had

already been there and this was him making a

comeback. So that's the only reason one episode

I Just don't it didn't had nothing to do with

see it didn't fit in in season three It didn't

fit with the other stuff that we have going on

We got we got space bridge stuff. We got stuff

going on with Cybertron. We have the whole Sentinel

Prime Optimus Prime feud We have the whole shockwave

angle and this is an episode that has nothing

to do with any of that Okay, and I just could

not stand either part of this episode I would

have had a hundred more notes. I stopped writing

Sonic guitar attack. I'm sorry Okay Other than

Human Error, what are your least favorite episodes?

I only have one other one. I only had two episodes

this entire season that I think I rated under

a five. Human Error, I gave a one, and Three's

a Crowd, I gave a four. Yeah, Three's a Crowd

was just dumb. It was another throwaway episode

that didn't belong in season three to me. Yep,

I agree. Those are my only two least favorite

episodes. Yeah. See, there's only two. Steve

least favorite episodes oh Boy Three is a crowd.

Where is they sting? human error per wanted to

Decepticon air You didn't like Decepticon air.

I don't care for half this show I like Decepticon

error for the the multiple Decepticons that were

in it But it was just kind of asinine yes prime

climbs out of a a transwarp Bucket that's in

swindle Swindle gave birth to Optimus Prime and

Swindle is a crack whore that could not hold

a space bridge in his chest Because you saw what

it did to Omega and Megatron and Starscream and

no this guy carries around a portable one in

his pocket Good point. I Did like that episode

but good point and all the deceptive kinds get

free. It's like can you be any more stupid? I

Think they just use the wrong terminology there.

They should have called it his subspace pocket

and somehow subspace and trans warp coincide

somehow and that's how it happened but to actually

say he has a You know a warp gate in his chest

is kind of ridiculous Prime just wanted to feel

like what it was like to be inside a Decepticon.

I want to be in you. Now I want to get out! And

then he says give me your face as he grabs his

face. Need I go on? Do you have any other least

favorite ones? The Expendables. Showing up in

the human error the the Autobots being evil Soundwave

being a lame -ass Agreed Michael any least favorite

episodes Not anything with such vehement hatred

as Steve, but I Like to wear Never mind. I didn't

like I didn't like any of these. I didn't like

where is thy sting? Well, yeah exactly I like

that they brought Wasp in Well, let me clarify

here. I mean, I like wasp and wasp I like wasp

the fact that you know, he's a traitor, but he's

not a traitor or they think he's a traitor and

now He's back and we have to try to apologize

to him, but he never does basically They didn't

use wasp well enough in this episode in my opinion

and I think they just kind of brought him in

to set him up for his later appearance as waspinator

Which was a much better episode This episode

seems like an excuse to introduce the jet twins

Which I didn't know I've been I know that just

my two least favorite characters Have we covered

least favorite character? Yeah, those two Yeah,

big time. Uh, so yeah, I didn't, I wasn't as

happy with this. Just, you know, the whole, what

the hell is an electric paint job? And I don't

know. It just didn't, it didn't sit well with

me. I didn't like threes a crowd. Uh, you know,

in the beginning, some deck compares bulkhead

to Hitler to do that. You did do that. Yeah,

and I just like seriously There was almost a

Devastator, but they spoiled it Yeah, it's like,

you know the I Understand that you don't know

if there's gonna be a season four But you know

that there'd be a Devastator in season four and

there's a chance you might not have a season

four So you've got two minutes to spare here

at the end of this episode Instead of you know

top of the world, but you know, why don't you

give us something we want to see? Make the three

of them combine. You know, I mean, you've already

got Safeguard who's literally, you know, the

left half of a guy and the right half of a guy

smooshed together to make a guy. But here you'd

have Scrapper and Mixmaster smooshed together

into one guy with a hat on top of it. It would

still be twice as big as any one of the other

Transformers, including Megatron. I would have

taken that, even if you had blown them up at

the end. That would have been fine by me. I agree.

You know, and maybe they set it up for Scrapper

later, but I really think that was an afterthought.

I think toward the end they just said, you know,

we're never gonna get a Devastator, let's just

slip Scrapper in here and make him a replacement

Autobot. Which is dumb on many levels, but number

one because he's a Decepticon! So I didn't see

it. And Dirt Boss is just not a good character.

He'd make an awesome head for Devastator. The

only thing good about that episode was Rekgar.

And 3's a crowd? Wasn't he in there? No, later

on. Oh. No, he was later. He was in... This is

why I hate machines. Oh, that's right. I'm getting

my things confused. Yeah. This is why... No,

no, no. It was human error part 2. Yeah. The

replacement. Yeah. So you've got Scrapper, you've

got Rekgar, and Snarly. Snarly was there. Snarly!

Here, Snarly! Do you have any other least favorite

episodes besides the words I sing in Three's

a Crowd? Uh, God, I'm so ranting about Three's

a Crowd, you know? Cerebro shells, really? And

he dances around going, you got a problem? You

got a problem? You know, no, I couldn't take

it. Yeah. So, no, I didn't like that episode,

but that's, uh, it's about the only two I didn't

like, though. For me, as far as least favorite

episodes, like, there are... Couple episodes

in here stuff like there's some stuff in five

servos of doom I can do without there's some

there's plenty of stuff in human error I can

do without but Mainly overall what it comes down

to in season three is threes a crowd does not

fucking belong in this series whatsoever It's

it's a full -on throwaway episode. It adds nothing

to the total story The dirt boss is dirt boss

is nothing but a Burgess Meredith ripoff and

a bad one at that uh... that's a burges meredith

it's we talked about this in that episode there's

a yes we did and i think it was james cagney

was the writer well no anyway it just that that

was just horrible horrible horrible episode so

moving on to the worst the worst part about human

error was that was two parts though Okay. This

sucks. This sucks and it's gonna suck next week

too. Okay, I'm done with the episodes now. Alright,

moving on to the final category is least favorite

characters in season three. I'm gonna go first

because I'm gonna get these out of the way right

now. The entire series. I've never liked Lugnut,

Bulkhead, and Bumblebee. But specifically, Lugnut

in season three... He's constant pontificating.

Oh my god. If any if any decepticon deserved

the mouth clamp from Sentinel Prime, it's Lugnut

He said pontificate Did you not like Inferno

and Beast Wars either No, Inferno was Inferno

was funny Lugnut is not funny. Lugnut is you

know sucking on Megatron's dick all the time

So if he had called Megatron my queen you would

have thought it was okay Swear it's the same

character. It's very similar. It is the same

character, but Lugnut is just... He's a baby

-backed bitch. Plus, plus the other thing for

me, and I know they only wanted to have one triple

-changer, it should have been Blitzwing and Astrotrain,

god damn it, not fucking Lugnut. I kinda like

Lugnut. No fucking Lugnuts. Bulkhead, again,

why are you creating or inserting a character

that has nothing to do with the Autobot team

whatsoever? Bulkhead? Yes, bulkhead, you know,

I I think that they created him because they

needed a strong guy and they didn't want to use

brawn Honestly, if they had named bulkhead brawn,

I would totally would have bought it. Yeah, but

it had to be a different voice actor Not necessarily.

It just would have been better. Well, look at

Prowl Prowl was still probably so a police car

kind of but it completely character Whereas this

would have been brawn. It's so would have been

brawn, but a complete different character They

could have had hoists, they could have had brawn,

they could have had gears. Well, look at Ratchet.

Ratchet is still an ambulance, but a complete

different character. That would have been okay.

What were you going to say, Steve? I said, but

he has a lot of homages, whereas Bulkhead looks

nothing like any of those other characters, and

so that would just piss people off. There were

just plenty of characters they could have chosen

to do instead of Bulkhead. If they needed a strong

character, there was dozens to choose from. Brawn

was never was that a green 4x4 APC? When when

was grunt brawn not a grunt grunt what was brawn

not a green truck? He was a green truck, but

he was never you know this overweight APC I You

know I honestly think that if they had named

him bra people would have been a little more

forgiving I doubt it. I would have I would I

would I don't like the character. I think he's

lovable. I like him You know, honestly, I like

this rendition of brawn better than I like transformers

prime brawn because transformers prime brawn

isn't lovable at all He's kind of horrible. It's

mean wait Okay, not brawn stop calling him fucking

brawn. Oh, I'm at bulkhead transformers prime

bulkhead is awesome Oh, that's a whole nother

show, guys. Yeah, exactly. I don't think we're

gonna go there. Yeah. Let's talk about what primed

it, the Wheeljack. Hold on. My... Shut up. I

like the Wheeljack a lot. Anyways, the final

character that really takes the cake, this character

has only had one redeeming smart thing that he

ever did the entire series. For season three,

though, he's still a dick, which is Bumblebee.

Still cannot stand Bumblebee. I so could not

tell which character you were talking about.

Take one. Again, Bumblebee has this transition

that he goes through through the length of the

series where season three Bumblebee is way better,

mannered, more mature, you know, he screws up

less than season one Bumblebee. I thought Balkan

and Bumblebee were better in season three than

the other two seasons, whereas Lugnut I thought

was a little bit worse in this season than the

other two. Yeah, I agree. About lug nut, I mean,

I mean lug nuts At some point ended up being

comic relief Yeah, I just liked lug nut a lot

in the earlier seasons and I didn't really care

for him as much this season Yeah earlier. He

was more like the brawn He's like the the answer

to bulkhead on the septicon side and then when

they introduced shockwave Well shockwave is badass.

So now we have to kind of Domify lug nut. Yeah

lug nut kind of got the The Grimlock treatment

in season 3 of g1 where it's like, well, we have

this badass character, but now we have to put

him in the butler uniform and make him serve

drinks. That would have almost been awesome if

they did that to Lugnut in this. That would have

been awesome. Come here, Jeeves. Where's my martini?

All right, Kevin, what are your least favorite

characters? All right, I narrowed it down to

six. First of all, for just... They're all human.

No, I didn't none of them are human on my list

because there really wasn't many humans in season

3 Which was a good thing? over the Just brief

appearances. I could not stand red alert and

I could not stand striker I hate when reboots

do this and I'm actually gonna do a blog on this

one at one point, but I hate when remakes change

the gender of a character. It's just weird. They've

done it in Care Bears, they've done it in Transformers,

they've done it in G .I. Joe, and I just don't

understand why you change a male character to

a female or a female to a male. Like, why did

it have to be Red Alert? Why couldn't it have

been one of the other female Autobots? I think

I was happier seeing Red Alert as a nurse. Well,

he acted like a nurse in G1, yes. Hello, nurse.

Yeah, Strika can burn in hell. It was a terrible

voice, it was a terrible look, it was a terrible

character. As far as the characters that actually

had a bigger part, Sentinel Prime obviously can

go rot in hell. Jetfire and Jetstorm are... by

far the worst character that they ever came up

with in this entire series. Amen. And it's a

shame that they actually even called the one

Jetfire because that's just like blasphemy. It's

like a bitch slap to the face. Yeah, it's almost

as much of a bitch slap as creating a emo character

and calling it pro. Because that is. I was hoping

that eventually he would grow on me since he

was my favorite G1 character But I just cannot

stand anything they did with this character.

It should not be Prowl They should have called

it Hound or something or Mirage or or something

else besides Prowl and My last character that

I didn't like and you guys are not going to agree

with me, but I could not stand Yokotron Wow,

I could kind of understand that I just liked

him for how he looked and The look on the voice

was okay, I just don't like him as a character

and I don't like him as the sensei of these cyber

ninjas. I did, well you just didn't like the

ninjas all together, but I like the fact that

of the character in the voice, but I didn't like

the fact that he just kind of rolled over and

died. He's like, oh we have to protect the Sparks,

but I don't want to come back to life, so fuck

you. No, that was wisdom there because Prowl

does the same thing when he dies. Was my ass

that's just my time to die It's easy to die and

give up the best things the writer did the best

things the writers did was kill yokotan and pro

It did fit it did but no I would have been happier.

You know like Kevin said it would have been happier

if it was uh, sorry Saving the day with her key

and her magic fingers. It would have wrapped

everything up in a nice little bow. Yeah she

said of uh, she could have really pressed megatrends

buttons and Put him offline. Wow. Give him a

nice massage with those ghost in the shell fingers,

you know? Yeah. That's all I got. That's the

end of the second run? Tentacle fingers. Who

else has least favorite characters they haven't

talked about? Steve, one of your least favorite

characters from season three. Okay, we're gonna

have fun with this one. I'll just say Yokotron.

No, I'm not. First of all, I would agree with

TFG1 as far as I greatly dislike Bumblebee, Lugnut,

and what's -his -face. Tells you how important

he is to me. His face. Yes. Uh, Bulkhead. I hate

the rendition of Rattletrap. Yes. Really? Despite

the fact that it's an homage. Yes. That was so

Rattrap, and I know you love Rattrap, so... I

like Rattrap, but... They kind of butchered his

personality. At least they could have done is

at least stuck similar kind of like they did

with Blackarachnia and Waspinator. Yeah. See,

if they had brought Scotty in there, you would

have been like, Woohoo! Rattrap! But Rattrap's

not little bitch that cowers to the bad guys.

The thing is, everybody's forgetting Season 1

Rattrap. Yeah, but everybody that sees Waspinator

and Blackarachnia in Transformers Animated will

recognize immediately who they are. Half the

people will not even realize that that's Rattrap.

Really? That's pretty obvious. Oh no, the entire

fandom was up in a uproar when Derek - I'm talking

about the casual fan that saw Beast Wars and

then - I'm not talking about die -hard fans I'm

talking about the casual person that saw Beast

Wars and then saw Animated. You would see Black

Racking and Wasmater and be like, oh they're

from Beast Wars. You would see that character

and you'd be like, who is that? It did not -

Well, you wouldn't give him a second thought.

He would be no more important than Huffer, Power

Glide, Sea Spray, any of those. Right. You wouldn't

have been like, oh that's Rattrap from Beast

Wars. You wouldn't have said that. A casual fan

would not say that. No. Well, so boo not monkey

fan would say that yeah, probably but they're

die -hards, so Why can I see his brain that makes

no sense to me Perceptor I would say is horrible

because of the voice That wasn't Stephen Hawking

that was Roger Ebert Oh God. It was Microsoft

Bob. Remember Microsoft Bob? That was a long

time ago. The look of Perceptor was cool. Yeah,

the voice just destroyed it. Yeah. I couldn't

understand a word he said. I liked him because

it's Perceptor, but I... Yeah. He was talking

about pantsing the Decepticons and that's all

I got out of it. Wheeljack should have said something.

Sentinel should have been popped in the forehead.

Yeah, it is chin well popped in his chin and

then shot through the brain and never to be revived

Or prime should have just hit him with the Magnus

hammer. Yes. Okay before you go on about Sentinel

I looked up perceptor on here and It doesn't

have perceptor is isn't it? It's a computer voice

It's voiced by Plane Talk, which is an unknown

speech synthesizer. So there was no actual fucking

voice actor. Right. No. But it shouldn't have

had that. It's no different than in TF Prime,

which obviously we'll get into a hell of a lot

longer from now, but of Bumblebee and Soundwave

having no voice at all. Let's not get into that

argument. But yeah, I would say overall that

there were quite a few characters, but those

are just the tip of the iceberg. Yes. Okay. And

Michael, what are your least favorite characters?

Safeguard. You know. Just why? Yeah, there's

no more toys. No, you can't even say it's to

sell more toys because that toy sucked That was

not even a good toy. It's like, you know when

you're in bed with a woman and No, and you're

kind of cuddled up, you know and you're next

to say you're cuddled and You have your arm kind

of under her right and you don't know what to

do with that arm because it's just going to sleep

Well, you don't want to move it because it's

like then you're not cuddling anymore. That's

Kind of a nice reference for the entire safeguard

toy Safeguard it's like you've got two halves

of two people kind of switched together in the

middle Except for the extra arm is hanging out

their back It really doesn't know where to go

it doesn't look right it looks like someone's

arm hang out their partner's ass I Would take

that I would say that's fine, you know I would

accept that from the toy if they had you know

somehow managed to get that arm in between the

two of them and factored in So that it wasn't

hanging out and even even if they did we have

it Hanging out there. There's still the leg hanging

out. So it's like is that a wing? Is it a giant

hemorrhoid? I'm not sure exactly what they're

trying to get at here Even individually the two

characters weren't very good toys and this is

from a series with just awesome toys with good

articulation and nice transformations and You

know, it was just it was a travesty. I didn't

even take mine out of the package I had to buy

it because I bought them all but it's still sitting

in the closet in the package. So, yeah, I don't

like Safeguard. Didn't like the voices. I mean,

you think Perceptor's bad. I couldn't understand

a damn word these two were saying. And when you

read the transcript of what they're saying, it's

kind of clever. It's like, oh, well, that's kind

of neat, you know, how they said that. At one

point, they say something, Sentinel Prime tells

them, oh, go create a diversion. And he's like,

well, being diversion. And he says, well, diversion

is blowing stuff up. And he goes, oh, I like

diversion. And they said it almost like the version.

And it was a play on that. And it's clever written

on paper. But when they actually say it, it's

like, oh, god, this is so frickin' annoying.

I can't even. No, so I don't like that character.

Didn't like it when they threw him in and when

they introduced him didn't like him when he showed

up in every damn episode after that It's like

did they need a flyer that bad bring back swoop

swoop will come in and fly Sentinel Prime to

the island Exactly, we'll figure it out. It's

just it's just annoyed me and then you've got

dirt boss Who number one is just an I don't want

to say annoying But he's got that whole, you

got a problem? And that is literally, you got

a problem, is literally 50 % of his lines in

that episode. And I mean, it's an interesting

storyline. He's a gangster and a mobster, let's

say, because gangster sounds too rap video. But

he's a mobster in 1920s Chicago. And he's going

to take over the town by cornering the resources.

And that sounds kind of neat, but it just didn't

play out that way. And the fact that he's a Constructicon,

and we want a Devastator, we want one so bad

we can taste it, and yet the potential is lost.

You can't see me shake the fist here, but it's

emphasizing, right? There's a pause for emphasis,

and the fist is shaking, and it's like, they

can't see that, all right. So yeah, Dirt Boss,

the lost potential. He really bothered me But

I mean as far as you know overall characters,

I didn't like I I've never liked lug nut Even

when he became comic relief toward the end didn't

like him Just didn't see what techno saw in that

guy He'll tell us I'm sure This will be the one

column we get for the whole the whole the whole

series of be technical Yeah, let's not even go

there. Yeah, but but no, I don't you know, I

like everybody even the human characters for

the most part I'm surprised you didn't pick oil

slick as your least favorite Mike Well, he's

only in that one scene so he did show up in that

in the second human episode briefly Yeah, he

was team charge showed up No, oh slick was not

showing up second oil slick only showed up once

no team char Showed up for a brief second in

the full on Decepticon assault on the planet

at the end. Oh, yeah, but sure is no speaking

rules for that though Did he speak at all? Yes,

he did Rodimus. It was it was I think he just

killed Rodimus. He didn't say anything Well,

I was gonna bring him up because actually that

was Springer in disguise No, he no he he does

have a voice actor it is Phil Lamar. He did say

something he goes After Rodimus goes you're gonna

have to get past me decepticrete oil slick goes

you act like that's a big deal Autobot or he

says something like that and then he flicks the

cosmic rust cylinder at Rodimus so he did talk

Okay, but the scene in in human error where they're

attacking the the planet. The only one that has

a speaking role in that is Starscream. None of

the other ones actually speak, so I don't count

that as... That's just a background appearance

of oil slick. It has been spoken. It is law.

Shut up. It's my opinion, damn it. Good luck

to you guys. How many times are you going to

go home? Shut up. He won't stay home. He keeps

coming back. Do we have anything else we want

to bring up before we go to break? Anything else

we need to discuss about season three? No, not

that I'm not going to speak of in episode 20.

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and each of us is gonna go around the table and

give our final thoughts on just season three

And then that'll be it. So Kevin, what are your

final thoughts on season three? I'm looking for

the table. Hold on I don't see a table anywhere

near me My final thoughts on season three were

like you guys said it was a step above the previous

seasons. We had a lot less humans, yay. We had

a lot more Cybertron, yay. And a lot more jazz,

yay. No, it was good at points. There was a lot

more solid episodes than the other seasons had.

There wasn't as quite as many just completely

lame episodes. There was a few, but not a ton.

The only problem I think with season three for

me is there was, like we talked about, there's

a lot of stories that were left not finished

and loose ends not tied up. You know, maybe they

all had plans to do stuff in the future season,

but you can't always count on that. So it kind

of sucks when it gets cut off and you can't finish

stories, but I can totally understand why this

was cut off after three seasons. So it's because

of that fucking sequel. That's what it was. No,

it wasn't. It was because it was a terrible series.

Because of that fucking sequel. But yeah, season

three, more Cybertron, more Autobots. So I guess

that's a good thing. Steve final thoughts on

season 3 better than season 1 and 2 but ultimately

it fails Ultimately it gets cancelled Michael

Final thoughts on season 3 Season 3 had a much

darker tone than the two previous seasons I like

that. I mean don't get me wrong I like the crazed

medical experiments by Blackarachnia. I like

Sentinel Prime trying to take over the world

and shooting everything that moves. Single -handedly

creating the Hitler Youth and the Red Scare.

Trying to shoot down Omega Supreme. He just becomes

pretty wicked on Season 3. There's lots of talk

of war and the consequences of war Such as you

know many of the characters being killed Thank

goodness Yeah, well you know some of it was cool

They didn't kill RC Which didn't make any sense

to me because she actually gets struck down Yeah,

I mean they actually I want to say shockwave

kind of you know was particularly vicious kind

of grabs all the feeds out of her skull and pulls

them free and Previously even the Autobot said

if we pull all this crap out of her head, she's

gonna die and she didn't die In fact, they revived

her and she was fine afterward which again previously

they said would never happen because she's brain

friter, but now she should have died and I kind

of agree to a certain extent that you know, sorry

should have been the one Sacrificing herself

at the end Plus then we would have been sure

that she never came back in another series ever

again Well, you know what they could have done

is they could have sacrificed her Cybertronian

side and her human element then they could have

made her eight years old again She could have

married chip chase in a future universe There

you or she could have married Daniel It was a

great ending But I wanted to see a season four

and I know some people are like rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Which, you know, some people may believe, then

yeah, maybe that was true. If they had started

as strongly as Season 3 had started, then there

definitely would have been a Season 4. But, I

don't believe that would be the case. I'm agreeing

with Blanchard that, you know, they got cancelled

because there was just no room for the toys on

the shelf because they were selling the hell

out of Transformers 2's toys. So how is Transformers

Prime allowed to be in existence? Because Dark

of the Moon is the last movie for a while and

the Dark of the Moon toys are now off the shelves

pretty much I mean they're still there, but notice

that they didn't sell any toys until after the

Dark of the Moon toys are I mean They saw a couple

Dark of the Moon repaints out on the shelves

now, but we don't have any prime toys They're

selling them through big bad toy store as a test

market, but that's it. Yeah, I'm just saying

that they coexisted with the movie the series

coexisted only because the Hasbro's coming out

with this unified Transformers theory where they're

rewriting the mythos and they're still screwing

it up because the books and the comics and the

movie and Transformers Prime still don't agree.

Well the movie's not supposed to agree. It's

not supposed to agree with the movie. No, I think

it's Michael Bay raping us. No, it's movies are

outside of that. It's supposed to be the video

game the The books and transformers prime are

supposed to be in the same same thing. Yeah,

well even though they're screwing it up and Transformers

prime is enough like the movie. I mean, honestly,

let's The optimus prime figure is well the first

one they release is kind of interchangeable with

a movie prime The bumblebee figures are interchangeable

with a movie bumblebee. Yeah You know, I like

that they introduced a bulkhead. I like that

that figure or that figure that I think that

character still exists, but you know Don't know

it's it's not different enough from bayformers

to really make me take notice season three Season

three season three damn it. Yes. Anyway season

three really like the really like how it ended

I would have liked to have seen more I'll be

happy watching the season go with that ending

scene with with the the sound I won't say the

soundtrack the better song the music and everybody

standing there with a hammer and the thing around

his neck and yay we won and he should be magnus

long story short yeah exactly season four magnus

yes elite guard bumblebee i mean there's so much

potential here what the hell people no let it

die And as far as my overall thoughts for Season

3, it was amazing on the surface and very fan

-wanky. I did love it as a general watch -through.

However, upon further analysis, it does have

a few slight glitches and flaws. We all wish

for Season 4, well, most of us, except for Kevin.

But they ended the series on such a high note,

it was awesome. Okay, then. The ending high note

was awesome. I totally lost the ending high note

because I was so pissed off at the Cyber Ninja

gathering at the All -Star. The last scene must

have just totally blew over my head because I

was so pissed off. The last scene made the season.

I'll have to re -watch the last scene. It was

like, they return to Cybertron, conquering heroes,

they have Megatron trussed up like Hannibal Lecter.

Oh, that's right, it was the Star Wars moment.

Okay, never mind. That was awesome. Maybe that's

why I like this so much. Chewbacca still didn't

get a medal. I don't know what happened here.

Alright, so thank you for joining us. Like closing

sound? Yup, yup. Da -da -da. Shig -oth, nigger

-oth, da -da -da. No. We're calling. Get your

Star Wars shit out of my Transformers! No. That's

what she said. There can be ninjas in Transformers,

there can be Star Wars in Transformers. Well,

there are those horrible crossover toys. Let's

not get into that. Oh, don't get me started!

Thank you, thank you! There are those horrible

Star Wars, Transformers, Marvel Transformers

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