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Beast Wars Season 2 Recap

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About this Episode

We discuss the second season of Beast Wars, focusing on the series' darker tone, improved animation, and high character death count. We break down our favorite story arcs, the introduction of Transmetals, and our disappointment with the current DVD release's special features. We also examine the complex connections to G1 and other Transformers timelines, as well as the lasting impact of major plot developments like the Agenda.

Sentinel online. Now loading the Beast Unleashed

podcast. This episode of the Beast Unleashed

podcast features Stephen C. Phillips, Mike Blanchard,

and Michael Wilson. Hello and welcome to the

world's first ever Beast Wars Beast Machines

Review podcast. This is the Beast Unleashed podcast

brought to you by the Geekcast Radio Network.

I am your host, DfG1 Mike, and as usual, I'm

joined with Steve Megatron. Hello. G'day, sir.

And P -Gone Court Michael. Hello. Hey, how's

it going? It's going mr. Catchphrase Today we

will be recapping Beast Wars season 2 As most

everyone knows the recap episodes for this show

are fairly short And it's basically mainly I

created recap episodes just to talk about the

individual DVD sets and Some favorite episodes

favorite character arcs stuff like that so Honestly

Fucking Rhino They suck when it comes to special

features on season 2 and season 3 because 5 .1

audio is not a special feature, it's a specification

of the disc. And animation tests, they suck.

Okay then. So there's the DVD part. And a whole

lot going on as far as special features, huh?

No, not at all and Steve has said this multiple

times before I think on the show We are hoping

and praying that that shout gets beast and re

-releases them somehow Because I we all know

that Hasbro has enlisted shout factory to a multi

-year transformers DVD deal we just don't know

what else that includes other than G1 and I believe

they're releasing I don't know, they're releasing

some other Japanese thing through Shout Factory,

I think. I heard in the grapevine they might

be doing Headmasters, which if possible, I would

love to see them get as many of the G1 voice

actors that are still around to reprise whatever

role they had to finish, to go through Headmasters.

But yeah, that's about the only thing I'd want

to see with that series. Yeah, but yeah, I'm

really hoping that shout factory gets the rights

to Beast Wars Considering Rhino hasn't done shit

with it since the late early 2000s Yeah, and

I'd like to see them add actual special features

and and you know possibly Commentaries or or

just you know random notes or things interviews

the voice actors something more than these cheap

ass Character models that they've got on here

that I could download anywhere on the net which

you know, and probably better quality too. And

they include that scene from, which was excluded

from... I'm getting ahead of myself, but there's

a scene that's missing on a Season 3 disc that...

Yeah, it was a deleted scene from Nemesis. That's

a special feature on the Season 3 set, but yeah,

that's Season 3. But yeah, the disc sets are

just kind of lame in themselves. I mean, the

packaging looks halfway decent. But the packaging

is awesome. I mean between Well, not it not only

the discard I was very surprised with the season

2 season 3 sets because they're only two discs

each but you have when you open the package you

got Megatron and it's almost like he's embossed

and then you have on disc one is primal and underneath

him is underneath his disc is Megatron and vice

versa you have Megatron's head on disc 2 and

Primal's head or face or torso on underneath

his disc and I hadn't noticed that it's like

they kinda screwed up no it's kinda like mismatched

but I mean it's still cool it's not really that

they screwed up because if you look at all the

other um all the other discs Who'd they go against?

No, but if you put disc 1 on top of... Here,

I'll do it now. If you pop disc 1 on top of where

disc 2 is supposed to go, it kind of completes

the picture, so it's like you can still see Primal's

head. Yeah. So, no, I think they screwed up.

I think they put the pictures on the wrong sides.

Well, you know what? It wouldn't be the first

time Rhino's done that. Wouldn't be the first

time they screwed up either so No, don't even

don't get me started on that don't even go there

You know, they put some really nice artwork in

there. You've got Dinobot from Code of Hero looking

fairly epic with the silhouette, or I should

say the sunset behind him. It's kind of nice.

What the hell are you talking about? The booklet.

Oh, OK, inside the booklet. Inside the booklet.

Yeah, no, there's a nice artwork inside the booklet.

Yeah, yeah, OK. One of the things I loved about

season two is obviously the awesome continuity

going back to G1 and to the other TF continuities

as well. And also really, we had some very good

storylines this season, even though it's pretty

much one fluid storyline throughout the entire

B series. I really, really enjoyed this season

more than season one. And just to really quick

fire off my list of favorite episodes, Aftermath,

Coming of the Fusors, part one and two, and Other

Visits, part one and two, Code of Hero, and The

Agenda, parts one through three. The rest of

them are kind of hit or miss, I think. I would

have to agree with you on those. As far as those

are concerned, I like all those episodes. I would

have to rank probably Coming of the Fusors is

like a pretty cool epic return episode of Primal.

And then Other Visits, it's the first time you

actually see a permanent death in the series

in the form of, I mean, technically they aren't

really dead, but as their separate selves, they

are dead. As Ares and Tigertron, they are both

dead. Yeah Then then you get You know, of course

we're entering the fray and then you see transmute

a die. So that's three deaths this season Dino

bots epic death, which is for the season and

then ram your ravages, which is five So, I mean

you have the most death count in this entire

season Bob Furman right this season Bob Furman

Bob forward Oh Simon Furman actually did have

a yes, he wrote that episode that's interesting.

I think it more so had to do with Referencing

older transformer continuity and to wrap it up.

Yeah No, I was actually I was referring to Simon

Furman and his knack for killing off transformers

Yeah, I think we want them dead we got new toys

come on what the hell's wrong with you But yeah,

there was this this had the highest death count

in the season The animation models got much much

better even for the ones that were existent in

season one They've by the end of this season.

They've gone above and beyond what they used

to look like Yeah, I agree with that Yep Sound

the sound the visuals. I mean everything has

gotten more crisp more. I mean it granted It's

more dark, but it's it's got that more serious

tone that It makes that makes it more interesting

I Tell you what oh Yeah, I tell you what though

when we get to season three. Oh my god one of

my favorite two -parter Well, I think I don't

know how many two -part I don't remember right

off the top my head how many two -parters there

are in season three, but Feral Scream has got

to be the darkest episode as far as the colors,

because obviously you have to hide the fact of

TM2 Cheetor being the sneaky cat, but overall,

Season 2, very well done. There were some moments

where I just didn't care, but there isn't anything

so far out of Beast Wars that I've absolutely

outright hated outside of Tarantulas. See I've

always liked him so I mean I I didn't like his

pre -transmetal form. I was like to me after

he hit transmetal No, I've always liked tarantulas

just because you know again. He's got his own

agenda. He's doing his own thing He's counterproductive

to Megatron but you know he's he's uh You know

got his own layer got his own I don't want to

say minions, but you know in the form of Blackarachnia

and Quickstrike. Yeah, he's got his own thing

going on. He's a good character. I like him.

You know the thing about Tarantulas that I noticed

obviously since it was revealed in Agenda, which

we covered last week, is that if you look at

him from beginning to Agenda, the first two seasons,

You can see hints that he's a mole throughout

the entire first two seasons. Because he's always

talking about Megatron being on his own agenda,

not just in the Agenda episode, but in the Agenda

three -parter, but he's always talking about

Megatron having his own agenda and yada yada

yada. So you know that there's something going

on there with Durantulas. But you have to look

for it though. It's clear you guys don't think

going on, but you don't really know what that

thing is Until the end until the agenda right

yeah Michael what are some of your favorite episodes?

Yeah, I like the code of the hero code of hero

Thank you for correcting yourself the code of

hero code of the hero no no no code of hero the

words code of hero Yeah, you know, I honestly

toward the beginning of the season I wasn't thrilled

with the transmittal bodies Well more to the

point I wasn't thrilled with with the transmittal

monkey Just didn't like that fusions You know,

they're good characters You know silverbolt ends

up being a very strong character He's kind of

a he starts off as kind of a one -note pony,

you know up until he You know starts romancing

black arachnia Quick strike is a one -note pony

He just wants to kick some casters And that's

the same thing over and over again in that sense.

He's probably made waspinator Basically hell

of a lot more important just because waspinators

got I mean granted he blows up all the time granted

you know, he has some kind of smart ass remark

for whenever he gets blown up, but he's, you

know, there's something that is different and

entertaining with Waspinator. Whereas Quickstrike,

I would have loved if they would have just ended

him here. Yeah, just kill him. You know, he's

kind of worthless. Just kill him. Keep Ravage.

Yeah, I would have bought that I would have made

things hell of a lot more interesting I mean

get rid of the quick strike. We didn't need him

ravage was a bit of a Mary Sue here It's like

oh, this is our own private character, and he's

uber powerful, and he can kick everyone's ass

and He needed to go he couldn't stick around

because he was just too powerful maybe without

the ship blow up the ship keep ravaging temper

him down a little bit, but I Still think he might

have been too powerful to let live Hell, all

you gotta do is blow up the ship, make force

ravage to transform permanently into cassette

mode, and put him into the offline sound wave.

and G1 Ravage is kind of a trans -temporal, you

know, the way they describe it, it ends up being

more of a paradoxical goat fuck, to be honest.

No, I'm serious. When they start talking about,

and again, this is with the Japanese version

of the alternators line, where you've got a car,

that turns into Ravage. It's the Trax mold with

a Ravage head, right? And then they've got another

car that's a Jaguar, literally a Jaguar car,

that transforms into a cat. So now they've got

to explain logically how Ravage, the Corvette,

is related to Beast Wars Ravage, who is also

related to G1 Ravage. And it's basically time

Hopping ravage who's got his own agenda doing

his own thing and and feeding viruses through

It it it's really complicated and confusing but

That's why the Japanese continuity sucks. It

doesn't count Yeah, I thought they did a good

job really tying especially with the alternators

timeline kind of storyline and tying in all the

timelines and all the series it was interesting

stuff, but Yeah, to digress I liked bad spark.

I like the whole idea of The maximal hierarchy

having a deep dark secret I think that Rampage

could end up being a character with a lot of

potential. And I like the agenda. All three of

them. It was just non -stop epic. And it still

didn't finish Megatron's agenda. Nope. Not until

the next episode. There's more. Well, not even...

There's more. Yeah, but not even in the next

episode. No, I know, but I mean... I mean, not

even in Season 3 did it stop, and it didn't stop

until Endgame in Beast Machines, really. Well,

see, there's a scene in Season 3, and I'll point

it out when we get to that point, that Megatron

kind of alludes to something, because he says

something about planning for the future, and

it never, you know, goes back to that particular

thing again. Hmm and which kind of alludes me

to think that Hey, I'm creating a virus that

I'm going to screw everybody over once I get

back to Cybertron which in my opinion should

be very soon Well, you know even after Megatron

is all said and done there's still Joe Convoy

Anybody else get the Joe Convoy reference? Yeah,

leave Joe Con alone Yeah, leave JoCon alone.

What is your name, sir? My name is Joe. Joe Convoy.

Who's your daddy? What Convoy? Joe Convoy. In

your pants. Joe Convoy. In my pants. Yeah. I

don't know if you've seen that. There was a...

I want to say BotCon... 2008 they did a voice

actor panel and Vangelis was actually part of

it he He did the voice for trans tech shockwave,

and he did a pretty good shockwave And David

Kay was there and he did a voice and they and

it was clearly Beast Wars Megatron because he

was doing the Beast Wars Megatron voice But it

was in the trends tech universe and they were

and they said so, you know, who are you and he's

like my name is Joe Joe convoy, you know, it

was just funny and at the end You know, he he

basically, you know comes out and says ha ha

I don't think he comes out says I'm Megatron,

but you know, it's fairly clear that this is

Beast Wars Megatron It was called A Bee in the

City. If you get a chance, go to YouTube and

look up A Bee in the City. I think they split

it up into three parts. But it's hilarious. It

is really, really funny. Do we have any other

covered a lot of what I was thinking as far as

production values and the animation and the sound

and... Everything just got much much better.

I'm looking forward to becoming that much more

better in season 3. Much more better. That's

correct grammar. Yes. I think what I'm going

to do is I'm going to have Steve put in every,

not all of them, but every voice actor we've

gotten clips from for the show in between this

and the outro, which you will hear next. We'll

return to the Beast Unleashed podcast after this.

Hey, this is Cheetor, and you're listening to

the Beast Unleashed podcast, Ultra Gear. Respect

my authority. Boil 'em mash 'em, stick 'em in

the stew. It's just about to fuckin' repaint.

Who would it kill you to raise a shovel? Mmm,

metal floss. That's like some wine with that

wine. Coulda did, what's a coulda did? I will

never buy that movie. But is Jesus? My pants

are full. I want some ho -hos. I love you! Shut

up, bitch, I'm not done! Now, back to the Beast

Unleashed podcast. Overall, Season 2, as we said,

very awesome. Lots and lots of G1 homages and

references. Especially Russian Ravage. Which,

I don't think... I think G1 Ravage only talked

once in tape form. and he wasn't russian but

anyway we talker is awesome we may have to get

him for an interview as well uh... there's there's

tons of them uh... we talker uh... blooming kuma

alec willows uh... venus minister so so yeah

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