Transformers Animated Transform and Roll Out Review

Jazz here, and I'm jiving to this episode of

Transformation Animation, featuring Mike Blanchard,

Steven C. Phillips, and Michael Wilson. Hello,

and welcome to episode one of Transformation

Animation podcast. I am one of your hosts, T

.F. Joe and Mike, and joining me is Steve Megatron.

Hello. Hello. And Peekoncourt Michael. Hello.

Hey, how's it going? It's going. So what's going

on with you, Steve? Nothing really. Just got

a bunch of DVDs. Cool. True. True. Dark of the

Moon came out. Steve and I have not had a chance

to see it yet, but Michael, your wife surprised

you this afternoon, didn't she? She did. She

actually said, hey, we're going to see Transformers.

And that's why I love her. She's the best. She

really is. I didn't expect to be seeing this

until Sunday at the earliest because we've got

plans and stuff. But yeah, she really came through

and and I saw it and I enjoyed it it was Thankfully

not spoiled for me my everyone on Twitter and

I won't spoil anybody here Let's see, what have

I been up to The same, you know getting getting

the podcast stuff going getting him wire going

back up and and getting this started So I think

that without any further ado, we're going to

get into it. What we're going to be talking about

today is the movie premiere, which is what they

tagged it as, they promoted it as of Transformers

Animated Transform and Rollout. The All -Spark...

Where is it? I grow impatient. Artificial gravity

disabled. You're crazy, Prime! Putting us on

equal footing, so to speak! Sorry, my bad. Know

what? You're even uglier from this angle. Scary,

too. Everyone in position for a concentrated

attack on my signal. No! Wait for my signal!

The decoy was a nice touch, but once again a

little warning would have helped. Would it kill

you, boss, to say something like, heads up, or

I don't know, watch out, or INCOMING! That's

right, it is time to synopsize, transform, and

roll out. Basically, you have a small space bridge

repair crew consisting of Optimus Prime, an idealistic

former Autobot Academy leader. Bumblebee a small

but smart hotshot. Bulkhead a large wrecking

ball wielding worker, prowl a ninja -like loner,

and a grumpy Cybertronian war veteran in Medic

Ratchet find the Allspark amongst the meteors

when clearing a space bridge in an asteroid field,

but very soon they also find a ship of Decepticons

looking for them. Heading back to Cybertron,

their supreme commander Ultra Magnus is unconcerned

with the threat of the Decepticons, but tells

them not to play not to be playing at heroes

at all the Decepticons led by Megatron attack

to claim the all spark but Megatron has an enemy

in his own crew this is Starscream who strives

to hold a post of the Decepticon leader as usual

uh... basically Starscream blows Megatron up

they crash land on earth some young inventor

dude finds Megatron and then builds a robotic

empire uh... fifty years later the Detroit Metro

police or whatever it is the some decks nanobots

have created this super horrible monster and

SWAT teams are ineffective part of the Nano bots

get into Omega Supreme. Oh, oops. Sorry spoiler.

I mean the arc and react You suck at this, Scott.

I know, I know, I know. Because I'm not actually

reading it anymore, David. Just read it, for

God's sake. Break open the wiki and just read

it. And then Starscream shows up again. All out

battle happens for the All Spark. They meet Sari,

who a lot of the fans hated at first. They defeat

Starscream and end up being heroes again. and

the episode ends with them repairing bridges

on earth. They come full circle. Yes. Now, the

main thing that we need to bring up first and

foremost before we get into any of our thoughts

is the voice cast, the main voice cast. You have

David Kay as Optimus Prime, Bumper Robinson as

Bumblebee, Corey Burton as Ratchet, Jeff Bennett

as Prowl, I'm just gonna say Patrick from Spongebob

as Bulkhead because I cannot pronounce Bill's

last name. I just can't. Yeah, I think that's

it. Cory Burton plays Megatron, Tom Kenny plays

Starscream, David Kaye plays Lugnut, Bumper Robinson

plays Blitzwing, Black Arachnia is done by Kreese

Summer, Tara Strong does Sorry, and Isaac Sumdak

is also done by Tom Kenny. Steve what do you

think of the main cast as far like specifically

the characters and how the voice actors do you

think? That that David K does a good optimist

or does David not even? Should it be should it

have been somebody else to do optimist? I think

he did pretty well in his own right being that

this is supposed to be a whole new continuity

for one and two this is a young prime not a Orion

Pax gone prime Yeah, so it's it's a completely

different Circumstance, so he's actually having

to grow into that leader role Gradually throughout

the entire series Do you have a favorite out

of the main cast so far just from this first

pilot um I pretty much took two I was a little

off put by Prime to begin with, but I think that

was just because it was different. Just a whole

different look, but I definitely liked Prime.

Optimus, that is, being that there's more than

one Prime in the series. I also liked Megatron.

Corey Burton did a great job doing his own Megatron

in this. It's almost a nice blend between kind

of a G1 and Beast Wars. I mean, it's his own

spin on it, but I mean like in terms of how he

portrayed the character. Right, yeah. And I liked

Ratchet just for being a cranky old grumpy guy.

And I think pretty much the last one I'd have

to say is Starscream and that's because Tom Kenny

pretty much nailed the character's voice and

actions on the head. Yeah, probably the closest

we got to Chris Lada in a long time. Oh, yeah

But yeah, I'd have to say those four are pretty

much my favorites What about you Michael? Do

you have any favorites or and we'll get to least

favorites here in a moment because I think we

can all agree on who the least favorite character

is We can I think But do you have any favorites

out of the main cast here? You know at this point

it's hard not to like them all I mean in an ensemble

cast you usually have like one or two or it's

a really like that one but Here, I think they're

all equally likable. I think Prowl doesn't get

nearly enough screen time as the rest of the

crew mm -hmm, but You know they'll fix that a

little bit later. I have to agree with Steve

about you know Starscream that Tom Kenny really

nailed that character. And when I say nailed

it, I mean he updated the G1 character just enough,

so I enjoyed it. Yeah, he gave proper fan wink

and then some. Exactly, yeah. It was definitely

Starscream. I was actually thinking that this

Starscream sounds a lot like the Starscream in

Transformers Prime. No, they're two extremely

different Like this one is more comical because

this is Tom Kenny It's it's it's sinister, but

it's it's to me. It's way more comical. Whereas

Steve's blue Steve Bloom's version of Starscream

and Transformers Prime arc He is all the way

dark. I mean, he is as dark as you can get. I

mean, this Transformers Prime Starscream is nothing

compared to this one because that one is he constantly

has plans. There's no real, like, there's not

a lot of humor. There's some, like, in the episode

where he lost his arm and Knockout said, oh,

how about a null ray? You know, I mean, there's

comedy like that, but that character in Prime

is so much darker than this one. I don't know.

I seem to find myself laughing at the Prime Starscream

a lot. Maybe more than other people, I guess.

I don't know. But I like all the characters.

I think I emphasize more with Ratchet. He's just

a grumpy old man. Dan and Ratchet, I think he

kind of they almost kind of foreshadow that he's

almost kind of tied into the original G1. At

points I I'll bring that up later to be honest,

but I see what I see where you're coming from.

Yeah, but no, I like them all and I you know,

especially like Tara strong sorry, and I know

that some people may not like the sorry character,

but I Just listening to it hear Tara and it's

hard not to not to love Tara Yeah Don't know

I said a second ago. I think we can all agree

on who the least favorite character is but for

me Right off the bat least favorite is bumblebee

Really, I? Cannot stand how arrogant he is I

I just cannot stand the characterization that

they've started him off with like I Was gonna

say it's Beast Boy Yeah, yellow Beast Boy That's

at least he has a voice Okay, well that was okay

technically I mean can't brush him too much No,

I know, but I'm just saying like when I first

saw this series and even watching it back now

I Just read, you know, it's great that he has

a voice It's great that you know back in 2007

in December when this came out because I think

this came up right after the movie did um...

the first movie uh... i'm glad that they went

ahead and gave him a voice and didn't you know

do what they're doing now with everything oh

well he doesn't need a voice doesn't need to

talk we don't need to pay voice actors what are

those you know uh... but i'm i'm glad they gave

him a voice i just don't like characterization

like i just i don't know i i would rather him

be the young rambunctious character You know,

I'd rather have him be the hot shot, right? Uh,

than kinda what they have now. Alright, when

I say what they have now, I mean, it's like,

it's kinda like the Bumblebee and I'm going back

to Prime here, I'm going back to the movies.

Bumblebee is not your small, you know, peppy

scout character. He's on par with one of the

Wreckers. Where he just runs in and destroys

everything that moves. And I don't think that's

what Bumblebee should be. I think this character

embodies what Bumblebee should be. He's kind

of, again, short, peppy... I can see peppy and

being gung -ho and going and getting stuff done

and being reckless and all that stuff, but the

arrogance of, oh, I'm faster than blah! I'm faster

than every... That arrogance and just the way

that that portrayal is done of... of that negative

quality is what I don't like about Bumblebee

in this. Well, again, it's only, you know, so

many seasons, but he does grow as a character.

He he learns to admit his flaws, especially when

he meets blur. He's like, oh, I thought I was

fast, you know. But he he's starting off this

way for a reason. And again, I think that's because

by the end of the series, you see the growth.

Yeah. Yeah, I think they did the same thing with

Prowl and while he's not as annoying He's more

low -key about it, but he's just not a team player

here. Yeah, and again by the end of the series

He's all about the team player. He's all about

you know the self The group being greater than

the self This was a complete departure from anything

as far as animation style. What do we think of

the animation style Steve? Honestly to begin

with I was not at all thrilled with it But I

think after watching it, it kind of grew on me.

And it worked out in its own right. And I'm glad

that they did what they did with this because

it showed that, hey, Transformers can change

their look and still function properly. Yeah,

I think for me, what was really throwing me off

in the very beginning when the series was still

airing on television, what really threw me off

was just the complete almost anime -ish type

of look, especially when it came to the humans.

When I first saw, like, Professor Princess and

Angry Archer, who we'll talk about later in future

episodes of Transformation Animation, when I

first saw those characters, I'm like, what the

hell is this? I was like, what the fuck is this?

What about you, Michael? What do you like or

dislike about the animation style? When the first

stills came out, I didn't like it. And I thought,

you know, this is really bad because they had,

I want to say, and it's stock footage now, it's

stuff that you see all the time, but they had

like a picture of Optimus Prime kind of from

a three quarter view and he's jumping toward

the camera and he's all kind of lanky and scrawny.

This is a little scrawny for a prime, right?

Yeah. And it just didn't look right to me. And

I said, you know, this is going to be utter crap.

This is just going to be bad. But as I saw more

of it, I realized that it was going to be, I

don't want to say roughly the same, but similar

to the art style for Teen Titans. Well, considering

Derek J. Wyatt worked on both series. Exactly.

I didn't know at the time that Derek J. Wyatt

was the guy behind Teen Titans or that, you know,

he would he was involved with this. But As it

turns out, yeah, it's the same guy. The art style

is very similar. And I really liked Teen Titans.

And I liked it because I like anime. And Teen

Titans was very anime -centric. It was like an

American anime, almost. Yeah. And when this came

out, I thought, well, you know, not quite what

I had in mind, or maybe it's not quite my cup

of tea. More to the point, it's not Transformers,

right? But... I still enjoyed it for what it

was. I kind of saw it as a departure from what

we had, but that's a healthy thing. Anything

was better than what we had before. Well, the

thing of it is, if you just look at the United

States versions of Transformers over the last

25, 30 years, you had G1, you had Beast Wars

and Beast Machines. Beast Wars and Beast Machines

was a complete leap. Into the unknown with the

whole CGI stuff, right? and then you have this

and This again was another leap in in style and

and direction I do like what they did with you

know, the story arcs. However, I will say that

They were super they're super fan lanky throughout

this entire series. They are yeah, and that's

what that's what I love about it And Steve pointed

out earlier about how this Optimus Prime, it's

not our Optimus Prime. It's not Orion Pax. It's

a way to portray Optimus as a younger person

without actually calling him Orion Pax. But the

history of it in the very beginning is a nice

homage, but it's an in -joke only. This is not

G1 in 2007, people. Yeah, they see that I when

going back and rewatching this I had completely

forgotten about the g1 clips in there and the

clips actually the history vids quote -unquote

right actually show Megatron and The secret jets

or the tetra jets depending, you know, they were

kind of like the weird pyramid looking jet thing

It showed bumblebee and wheeljack from from the

first episode of Transformers where they were

trying to get away, still on Cybertron, trying

to get away from the Seekers. It showed the Omega

Sentinels. To me, it was like, wow, this sheds

a whole new light on this whole thing. Because

you actually see G1 Megatron, and it makes you

wonder, oh, is that Megatron? Because they say,

four million years ago, this was the guy. And

here's the history vids of him. And if so, then

where's G1 Optimus? you know, how well does this

tie in together? And, you know, it's almost like,

you know, in Beast Wars where they had their,

the great upgrade where they all go from G1 to

tiny Beast Wars figures, or tiny Beast Wars characters.

And that, you know, at one point in the history,

you go from G1 and everyone, you know, kind of

goes into an upgrade, into an animated style.

you know, it's like well, how does that work

exactly and I Again it shines a whole new light

unto what's going on here, but at the same time

We've been reminded from Derek Wyatt that we

shouldn't read too much into things. I Mean it

was the same story when we said hey, we've got

Beast Wars animals showing up in this episode

What does it mean? What does it mean? And he's

like it don't mean anything Don't read too much

into it's just just stop it Yeah, I mean they

and it says on the wiki that they did the the

history of its as a as a complete end joke because

as as you have said Michael and as Steve has

said animated is supposed to be its own continuity

separate from Everything else. I see what were

your first impressions when you first like? When

the movie first started and you saw the history

of it, what were your first impressions? I thought

that somehow they connected it to G1 and I was

like, well, that's different. I was like, I don't

see how they got to this point, but it's leading

to almost kind of a cool concept there. What's

really different for me is, and I noticed this

when I rewatched it, just... from them watching,

just from having the G1 scenes on the screen

and then phasing out and showing that it's a

history vid, and you see all these different

stylized robots, and I'm like, wait, like Michael

said, how did that progression happen? You know?

Because it's it's so drastically different I'm

not gonna run this into the ground too much But

I did have a note about it takes a while to warm

up to bumblebee in this series arrogant prick

that he is One of my hugest beefs about this

series and I get that it's not it's not g1 I

get that but Who the fuck is Bulkhead? Where's

Wheeljack? Where's Bluestreak? Anyone but this

guy. Seriously, Patrick the damn Starfish in

a green robotic suit? I like that character.

Okay. No, I mean, seriously, I just like him.

I mean, he's so likeable. It's, uh... Man, it's

got in my notes here somewhere. I forget exactly

where he says it, but... You know, he's always

tripping over things and going, my bad. Yeah,

yeah, I love that I you know and I Bill Fager

back II I want to say that's his name, but he

was he was the assistant coach on coach That's

how at least that's I don't watch spongebob.

So I don't can't really equate him to to Patrick,

but Yeah, exactly, but I think of him as you

know, the assistant coach on coach and it was

almost the same character, you know, this is

kind of a Big puppy dog lug of a guy. Mm -hmm.

He's always knocking things over. It's like my

bad You know, and he's not mean about it. It's

not like he's big dumb jock, you know pushing

you over for the fun of it You know, it's it's

it's he's literally just earnestly Bumping into

things because he's so big and bulky Bad choice

of words big but Oh Beast Wars reference I really,

like when I first saw this, and even now going

back to it, because I'm so sick of the movies

and everything using the term AllSpark, I really

miss the Matrix of Leadership. It might have

been the biggest gimmick in G1 history, but I

prefer it over the damn AllSpark. Well, when

you bring that up, isn't the uh, the hammer,

Ultra Magnus' hammer, the Matrix of Leadership?

I honestly am not sure. Because you get, when

you become... The Magnus, you get the hammer.

They show that at the end. Optimus Magnus, we

dropped the hammer. It's hammer time. It's hammer

time. That's right. But they refer to the AllSpark

almost in theological terms. Yeah. Or it's like,

you know, the Well of All Soul, or the Well of

All Sparks, they don't say it called All Souls,

but the Well of All Sparks, they keep saying

that, it's like, are you gonna die? Well, no,

I'm going to the Well of All Sparks, that's the

difference, you know. Well, they did use Well

of All Sparks in Beast Wars, didn't they, Steve?

Uh, no. They didn't? They did. And not in Beast

Wars. I could have sworn Rhinox said it a couple

of times. I could be wrong. He said the other

side of the matrix He didn't say they call it

the all spark when you die you go to the all

spark But they don't call it, you know, there's

nothing as the well of the all. Okay I think

that was something they made up here. Yeah in

the in the ends of beast machines when Megatron

actually gathers up all the sparks together into

his Unless fishbowl, right? It kind of looks

like a well. I would buy that sure, you know

well of all sparks Yeah, they may have done that

beast machines, but Beast Wars never had a reference

to the all spark or the well of They mentioned

matrix in it a lot, but that was it There's a

difference between the all spark and the well

of the all spark The all spark is is almost equated

with the movie all spark Yeah, that's why I don't

like the term. Oh, the Allspark, yeah. The fact

that they have this cube, give or take, you know,

an angle, right? That it gets tossed into space

to keep Megatron from getting it. Yeah. You know

what I mean? That's kind of movie Allspark to

me. Why is movie iron -eyed popping into my head?

Sam, get to the cube! That ain't no scout ship,

that's the nemesis! Kinda like, that ain't, that's

no moon, that's a battle station. I liked that,

I liked that because it was like they, they get

this little, they get the teletran 1 telling

them that oh, there's a ship approaching. And

it's like, oh well, you know, a ship like ours?

A ship like a scout ship? Is it a ship? No, it's

huge and it's gonna jump on your head. Yeah.

Star Sponge Scream. Although I give Tom Kenny

super awesome geek points for sounding more like

G1 Star Scream rather than SpongeBob. We did

talk about this a few moments ago. He's probably

one of the only people that can really pull off

a really great lot of impression. I mean, if

you look at people that have voiced Starscream

from after G1 to now, minus Steve Blunk, not

counting the current continuity, but just when

animating came out, he sounds a hell of a lot

like Lada, and I really like that. Lugnut and

Blitzwing. Blitzwing I like simply for crazy

face Blitzwing, I think that's cool. Uh, but

Lugnut, really? It should've been Astrotrain,

dammit. So, you know, you can't really come in

and start complaining about which characters

were, you know, this character should've... I

know. And I understand why they only used Blitzwing,

because it's, they only needed one triple changer,

and they needed that, that characterization of

that loyal dog to Megatron, the one that just

basically, you know, bend to his will whenever

he wanted to. Well, they needed a tank on the

Decepticon side. to match against the tank bulkhead

on the Autobot side. Yeah, that's true. Plus,

if you have a Blitzwing, you get three characters

for the price of one. That's true. I think I

like his Arnold, his red face and his crazy face

the best. The Ice Blitzwing, I really don't care

for that one. I think each one individually is

kind of lame. Come here, I will kill you! Wait,

I am the chopper! I'm going to express my rage,

and then he switches to the crazy voice. In song!

In song! Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I mean, it's

just so off the wall. Yeah. Uh, Bumble Rat Trap.

We're all gonna die, aren't we? We're all gonna

die. It's a nice reference, but it sounds better.

I'm sorry. I still, I'm not a Bumblebee fan in

this show. I'm just not. No. Bumblebee says this

a lot, and it's funny. that uh and i well i don't

want to say oh yeah they pulled that directly

out of peace wars but no it's funny i like to

hear it yeah i i so do love that they did get

the g1 fusion cannon sound effect yeah i love

that was so awesome i was like that is great

they have they bring back a lot of the sound

effects from the g1 And it's just really nice

to hear him. Yeah. We're getting into that G1

fan fan winkery now. Yeah. But we're repair bots.

We're not programmed for this kind of action.

Well, then consider this an upgrade. Why does

Bumblebee's line of we're repair bots remind

me of I'm getting too old for this shit? That

didn't so much remind me of that. I don't know.

When I kept hearing it, it reminded me of Riggs

and Murtaugh. We're getting too old for this

shit. Nah, sorry. Doesn't really strike me that

way. But at this point, you know, it's being

beaten over our heads that, you know, the young

bots are screw ups, right? Yeah. And yet Prime,

who's especially had had this type of training,

can come in and save their bacon. Yeah. you know

he's he's an academy bot so he's able to come

in and and take care of the business when everyone

else is just kind of getting stomped on yep i

was waiting for galvatron to come in after starscream

says this line but as i when starscream goes

as i appoint myself new leader i was so waiting

for cyclonus to come in with galvatron Who dares

disturb my coronation? Lubrication, Starscream.

This is bad sodomy. One of my favorite lines

from Starscream is, this is great, Megatron blows

up and Starscream's like, yes! He's got the full

on fist bump. Yeah! And then he turns around

he's like solemn face solemn face Oh, this is

terrible. Oh, this is so awesome. Oh, this is

terrible I don't want everyone else to know that

this is so awesome. So I have to put on the solemn

face Okay, we we all know that Optimus Prime

for the majority of of history has always had

a faceplate I think this besides not not not

counting Beast Wars. I'm specifically talking

about Optimus Prime characterizations This was

one of the first series that kind of showed optimus

prime that he had a mouth not counting optimus

prime Specifically bumblebee and prowl Steve.

What do you think of their battle masks? The

bumblebee one I could kind of see where that

Kind of went towards the movie ish. It was almost

like a mix between the bumblebee from the movie

and Rattrap from Beast Machines. Yeah It kind

of flipped down and everything Prowl's I could

have done without it and Prime of course, I mean

he just looked normal. Yeah, I mean optimus I

mean, you know, I just I don't like how the movie

introduced Oh When they're in battle everybody

has to have a battle mask. I just don't like

that Well primal did too and then they started

doing it. Yeah primal had the battle mask Or

at least it might have been like an emergency

mask, because we only saw it a couple times.

You mean Optimus in this series? No, Primal.

Optimus Primal in Beast Wars. Oh, yeah. Well,

they did that for pure G1 reference. I mean,

they always did that for G1 reference. They didn't

use that all the time, but yeah. Let's see, what

else do I have here? Okay, now this is a point

of discussion here. Some Dak, as a young man,

he finds Megatron and already has the white stripe

in his hair. Now, I know that I'm kind of jumping

ahead with this note, but later on it's... Huh?

Yeah, what the hell? I know, well, it's something

I noticed, okay? I'm not saying we have to, like,

go in depth here, but I'm just saying it's something

to think about for the future. All right, all

right. Go ahead. They're crashed. The Autobots

and Decepticons are crash landing on Earth. Mm

-hmm. Sumdak is in his little outhouse, out shed,

doing his little tinkering thing. He sees or

hears Megatron. When you see Sumdak, he already

has the white line in his hair. Yeah, I'm looking

at the AllSpark Almanac on page 109. The big

thick one with all the words, not the classical

version, right? And they show him, it's the young

Sumdak, and he has... Not a white stripe, but

it's more of a More of a dark gray stripe a charcoal

gray across his black hair. It's a little distinguished

Exactly It's like like he was watching the ring,

you know Well what happened is Rogue got a hold

of him Oh Magneto Give him a little bit of oldies

Give me all these! that happen Years to me seems

kind of like a drop in the bucket It doesn't

seem like that much for a transformer. They're

all supposed to be four million years old Yeah,

it's like I blinked and I woke up and oh crap

I'm actually going to Make a plea to the listeners

to those that are listening to transformation

animation podcast I want you guys to start a

count for us and let us know how many times that

we reference or we find references of every time

fan zone says this is why i hate machines oh

you know yeah it aggravates me because by the

time we get and this is a episode three note

that i made but by the time we get through this

i think he said at least three times yeah but

something like that is fan zone a one note pony

Pretty much, yeah. Is this the entirety of his

personality? Pretty much, yeah. It's like, I'm

fat, and I'm messy, and I boss people around,

and I hate machines! Chief Quimby here! Exactly.

Oh, it's not quite Quimby. He kind of resembles...

I have a feeling that there should have been

more backstory here later on in further episodes

that were never written. Maybe we visit him at

home and he drives this crappy police car that

looks like Bumblebee. at home and and you know

gets out well there is i don't know if it's in

an actual episode but there is something where

they kind of go to a brief flashback where they

mention something about fan zone and his wife

that had his apparently his wife had an incident

with one of the sumdak robots oh okay so i'm

not sure any backstory would be nice in an episode

but i do remember something about that later

on it was the fan zone muppet adventure I can't

program my coffee machine, it talks to me! Time

is frozen. Like on Johnny Bravo. Before we get

too far ahead, because I know at a certain point

we're going to start getting into, you know,

scanning alternate modes, but I really like the

Cybertron modes. For the Autobots, I like them

on the screen I don't like bumblebees and I know

I'm making this a habit of anything bumblebee

I'm saying I don't like I do like his earth mode.

I don't like his Cybertronian mode But yeah,

I I like the Cybertronian modes on screen The

toys however, I do not like the Cybertronian

modes on the toys I can understand that but I

mean they show prime and ratchet transform and

and and drive off I want to say off onto the

asteroid before they even get to earth and the

toys look just like the uh yeah figures I should

say the figures look just like the animation

yeah and it's funny too because I was like you

know when the ratchet toy first came out I was

thinking you know this this doesn't look like

much of anything you know I don't even know where

they got this from but going back and watching

it again and seeing you know that one minute

two minutes worth of Ratchet in the Cybertron

mode Yeah, really. It's like wow that is really

cool. I'm glad I own that toy now because it

looks just like the show What do you think of

the Cybertronian alt mode Steve? I'm a fan of

a few of them. I like them better on the screen

than I do obviously toy Just for certain modes

I dislike Megatron's because it looks too movie

-esque until he gets to his Earth form, which

I love. Yeah, that comes way later. But yeah,

I can see where you're coming from, but one of

the things about Megatron's alt -mode specifically

that I do like is the fact that they still have

the G1 cannon under his cockpit in the Cybertronian

mode as well as the Earth mode. I will say that

Megatron's Robot mode in this his his whole head

his whole face looks ten times better than what

they did in the first movie. Oh Yeah, yeah, it

looks so much better animation than it did on

live -action screen Yeah, well I've said it before

and these podcasts and I'll say it again that

movie Megatron looks like Somebody took tin foil

up and crumple it up into a close approximation

of a person It's all spiky and the face is all...

It doesn't even look like a face. It's like a

big spiky mess with teeth and big red eyes. I

don't like it. At least here, he's got a face.

You can discern the helmets that he wears. It

just looks awesome. And to hear him speak, it's

just... You know to be afraid of this guy. Oh

yeah, especially the music that's accompanied

him, especially his theme in this, oh my god.

Since we aren't talking about the bots and all

that stuff, we only see the other Decepticons

in silhouette. I mean, we do see Starscream outside

of silhouette, but the other ones, Lugnut and

Blitzwing and Blackarachnia. We all see them

in silhouette, and I kind of like that. I think

that that's... It's saying, oh hey, we're here.

And we are kind of a threat, but we're not actually

here. We're leaving it up to the imagination.

Yeah, exactly. The less you see, the more it's

in your head of what they look like. Inside the

Decepticon ship, it's all dark, and it's all

purple, and you can't see anything. That could

be a good thing. Or it could be a few targets

away from it being a Klingon ship. Steve knows

what I'm talking about. I've seen Star Trek,

god damn it. I haven't watched it all. I haven't

watched every single series. I've seen it three

times. Fuck you. Moving on here. The first time

I saw it, I so geeked out. Sky Spy. That's right.

It's ANSI. And then after the Sky Spy comes back,

instead of doing the G1 version of them just

laying on the floor and being scanned, they go

into the Beast Wars reformatting chamber. I like

the restoration chamber. I like it, I thought

it was cool. I'm sorry, but when they're on Earth

finally, and I think it was Optimus that says,

keep your scanners peeled for Decepticons. I'm

sorry, this sounds so much like a moment where

Michael would be talking to Kit in Knight Rider.

Not me, not Michael Knight. Yeah, well, I say

Kit, everybody knows what I mean. I don't know.

You might have been one of the few people who

watched that show. Anyway, moving on. So. Here's

an issue I have with Sari. She's screaming and

screaming for her life, yet when she sees the

Autobots for the first time, she forgets she's

in danger long enough to say, cool? Seriously?

I like beans. Are we, uh... I don't know what's

going on with Steve over there. I know, I was

just throwing some random BS stuff. Did we get

into part two yet? My notes are pretty much...

I basically took it as all one thing. I know

we run into Sari at the end of episode one. I

guess we can kind of get into part two. I want

to focus on one just for a second. Go ahead.

A couple things that I noticed. Basically the

fact that Megatron can take out everybody in

the room. When all the Autobots are trying to

work together and they just can't seem to do

it for one reason or another Yeah, and you know,

even if they could they can't take out Megatron

even with one arm. They can't take out Megatron

I noticed and you know anyone who doesn't live

in Michigan or near Michigan And I'm looking

at you blundered might not recognize pawpaw but

when Megatron splashes down some decks. I want

to say his parents farm where he lives is in

pawpaw, Michigan Good wine comes out of pawpaw.

Let me tell you here we go But let the drunk

let the drinking reference let the alcoholic

reference flow exactly, you know, I I Didn't

get a chance to have any wine tonight Thank God

for that. I know I was watching Transformers

You had to be sober for that one. Not necessarily.

It probably would have been better if I had a

couple glasses in me. But, uh... Get a little

Captain in ya. Actually, we just went to a wine

festival not too long ago, so I got a couple

cases of the good stuff. But we didn't go as

far north as Paw Paw. But if I had, I would have

brought home another case because I got some

good wine up that far north. Or in your case,

Steve, it's probably south of you. Somewhere.

Get a map. Did anybody else notice the Spike,

Carly, and Daniel cameo? I didn't the very first

time I saw the episode, but I did on subsequent

rewatches. They're all getting ice cream from

the ice cream box. I did. I thought it was awesome

as hell. I'm like, yes. Even though they were

cameo, I was like, at least they threw that in

there. Yeah, the fan waking is complete. Yeah,

what I thought was strange though is that Spike

and Carly make an appearance later on I want

to say when she's pregnant Yeah, and and ratchet

is trying to take them to the hospital So I thought

you know the the Daniel cameo might have been

a little premature No, no Daniel was and we'll

get into this obviously as we go along when they

premiered as a cameo in this Obviously Daniel

was already there Daniel was already born. She

was giving birth to a second child after Daniel

That's right, you're messing it all up for me,

man You're the one messing it up. It doesn't

know the history Second child we talking about

And that's you know, we get that wow took a while.

Yeah. Yeah, let's not go there. I know where

babies come from That was so and and and that's

another thing I do have to give Derek J. Wyatt

and everybody working on the show a lot of credit

the facial expression the only ones for facially

the only one robot that I don't like facial expressions

is bulkhead I just don't like when he does some

facial expressions, but when um... He doesn't

have much of a face. That's true too. It's basically

just, you know... God. Bulkhead is almost like

a Pelican. Is he a bird or is he a trash compactor?

Just a little of both. Do you have any, uh, before

I started, because I took a lot of notes before

I started into more of mine, do you have anything

you want to bring up, Steve, from parts one or

part two? Uh, not really, other than the fact

that, uh... It was it was interesting to see

that Starscream is like the lone the lone ranger

taking down all the Autobots Yeah And the death

of prime but oh Yeah, we'll get to that We'll

definitely get to that because anybody notice

the emergency defense systems name Was it sentinel

Omega It was Omega. Initiate emergency defense

system code name Omega. Hey, that's more for

Cybertron. Well, no. Well, yeah, but that was

more, but no. It's given away just a little bit,

considering, you know, the ship is shared. Yeah,

yeah, exactly. But the funniest thing is, when

he says that, he goes, initiate defense protocol

Omega, whatever it is, and Teletran 1 comes back

and says, you know, due to Cybertron's... Ongoing

effort to conserve energy this this program is

not available like Optimus is kind of he doesn't

say this but he's like what what the fuck That's

equivalent to the blue screen of death kids,

I know he's gonna get that hand solo moment where

he's like, it's not my fault Megatron eats babies

for breakfast. Oh wow That's what's bumblebee

says oh that's floating over there and he's like

it's the Megatron the Megatron to each protoformers

for breakfast. Oh, yeah, and I'm like easy babies

I Love in the battle when when bulkhead loses

his his his Wrecking ball thingamajig in the

in the nanobot monster. He's like Optimus is

like, can someone lend a servo? And then you

hear Prowl's little ninja star thingamajig shuriken

thing. Yeah. Bulkhead's like, he said lend a

servo, not slice a servo. I did like that. Heroes

of Detroit unite! But wait, there's more. Oh

no, Starscream is back. What a party crasher.

Wait a minute. You were totally jumping like

to... Part three? Yeah, pretty much. You're like

way up ahead. Okay, ease back cowboy. We gotta

get through part two first. Do you have your

here? No I don't. Oh, see now I'm not through

this because I watched it as one long thing.

I didn't watch it in parts. See, I am organized.

I have mine on different pages. I'm prepared.

I'm not organized. I have notes. I just don't

have them in any order. I have them in order

from beginning to very end. Well, as long as

we're talking about episode two here the The

giant slug creature was created out of the microbots

or what they call microbots the first step in

the fusion of organic and technological It was

kind of a nice nod to Beast Wars. Yeah, and I'm

thinking yeah, this this is where they're gonna

get Beast Wars from But they never went that

far, but I could see how that would happen. Yeah,

but we get into Sorry chasing her dog The spark

plug we named the dog spark plug Now the wiki

did say that could either be a reference to g1

spark plug or that could be a reference to the

minicon spark plug from Armada, so Oh, I don't

know. I prefer to think of it as G1 spark. Yeah,

I kind of see everything here is a G1 reference

Yeah, I mean as it gets closer into like third

season you see a lot of Japanese references to

stuff that most American people have never seen

or heard of but For the first season almost everything

is a G1 reference. Yeah Anything else on part

two Oh, yes. Steve? What? Part two. Did you like

it? Was it fun? Yes. It's all meshed together

in my mind. Told you. All right. All right. Fine.

I'll interject a little bit. Well, one of the

reasons why it's all meshed together in my mind

and probably Steve's mind is, as I said before,

this was when this premiered, it wasn't part

one, part two, part three. It was beginning middle

and it was a actual feature -length film on television

so it wasn't like, oh, here's part one to be

continued, here's part two to be continued. So

that's why it's kind of meshing all together.

Well, on re -watching though, you watched it

episode one, episode two, episode three, right?

No, I watched it on the DVD as the movie. Oh,

I didn't. I watched it separately. Sorry if I'm

being confusing then. No, it's okay. Part two

is basically the line between where we get the

five -minute robot historical documentary from

Sumdac and where the the giant slug creature

breaks loose and starts to terrorize the countryside.

Do like the little kid that is talking to some

deck though. I like I like the little kid like

oh, mr. Sumdack There's something wrong in there

but Little brown -haired kid. Yeah. Yeah Yeah,

I don't know When I see throwaway characters

like that, I want to say who's that supposed

to be, you know, because you know Well, it may

or may not be but you know, Derek Wyatt based

that kid off of somebody that's got to be like

Marty Eisenberg's son or somebody this has got

to be somebody if they he's not just creating

people off top of his head and I say that not

because I know but because It seems like there

are a lot of cameos from actual people in there

I mean Marty Eisenberg himself shows up in an

episode a Couple people he knows show up a couple

of the artists show up, you know things like

that Yeah, so it's like he makes you wonder who

is that really? Who is that based on? As far

as the transformations go, once we get in, everyone

gets their alt mode, their new vehicle mode,

and they all do their transformation, and you

get that nice little bit of stock footage there.

It's like, Autobots, transform and show us stock

footage. And they all have that little... five

second clip where they against a black background.

Yep. Yeah. Well, I will say though that the transformations

on screen in the animation are almost just like

the toys. Yeah, I'm very glad that they went

faithful to the figures rather than, you know,

the and again, this is a rumor that was going

around was that their transformations were just

going to be like a a Tasmanian devil type of

thing where they spin around in your truck and

you spin around and you're a robot. But they

actually went with, I don't want to say yay stock

footage, but no, they went with actual transformation

footage. Yeah. And it's transformation footage

that you can reuse over and over and over again

in every episode, but they show it. You can,

you can see it and it's cool up until Bumblebee's

arm comes out and he starts grabbing shit. It's

like, oh now you ruined it. What what are you

doing? It's like his car door becomes an arm

and he reaches out and grabs sorry by the head

Come here you It's like oh now you ruined it,

you know, but when you're when you're a little

kid and you got the toy and Especially like the

g1 toys where the whole arm comes out from underneath

the hood You know, you did that when you were

little, yeah It's like I'm a car but I had this

huge arm hanging off from the side of me and

it's got a gun and it's shooting you and Or at

least I did when I was little don't know about

you. I just don't Don't know where my brain goes

sometimes because you're talking about you know

freakishly long Freakishly big arms on a like

a mini Volkswagen the only thing I'm flashing

to is When Perry freakishly shrunk doofenshmirtz

and his fist is like ten times the size of his

actual body Sorry, anyway Reference I got a lot

of those yeah a bumblebee I'm not sure if it's

Bumblebee or if it's everybody, but basically

they can't understand why the cars aren't talking

back to them. It's everybody. Yeah, Bumblebee

actually makes the reference. It's mainly Bumblebee

and Bulkhead. Does Bulkhead say it? Because Bumblebee's

like, can't anybody on this planet talk? Well,

Bulkhead said something first. He's like, do

any of you little robots know what's going on

here? And then that's when Bumblebee comes in

and says, can't anybody on this planet talk?

Yeah, because they don't realize that. You know,

the little insects running around are the actual

sentient beings on the planet. Yeah. It's like,

what? I'm supposed to be talking to the meat

bag. Well, I don't know about that. Insignificant

fleshlings. Exactly. Run little insects. That's

all I try to stomp on you. You know, so they

all get their alt modes and they start fighting

the giant slug thing. I don't even know what

to call it. It's a nanobot monster. yeah something

like that and right away you get the impression

that Prowl is not a team player you know he's

always jumping the gun and doing his own thing

because he thinks he can do it better than everybody

else and to a certain extent he can but the fact

that you know this is way more than he can chew

and he's trying to bite it off anyway yeah exactly

and then he gets knobbed because the monster

eats him and then the monster because it is a

nanobot Actually melds with Prowl's brain and

is tapped into their comlinks Yeah, exactly and

take each half his chest, which is it's kind

of cool to see What bothers me here is we have

this Jeff Goldblum moment where a ratchet, you

know creates the cure for the nanobot on his

Mac top Yeah Yeah, see the reference. Oh Yeah

Yeah, it's it's so independence that yeah, I

got it I Got it. You got a you got a manually.

Oh, yeah. I got it The difference here is though

you have to actually shoot it or get it into

the creatures mouth or whatever Whereas in there

they had to actually fly up to the spaceship

Well, there's a certain amount of flying going

on here, you know, yeah Yeah, bumblebee jumping

off a building and he's like you're going down

I like how the creature swallows Exactly, but

it's like dude you just jumped into the sarlacc

pit. What? It's a nice kamikaze jump by bumblebee,

which I like but what I liked most about this

battle That you know they win by thinking and

granted ratchets doing most of the thinking and

Kind of be rating optimus for fighting first

and not thinking first He's like look, you know

you want to fight all day Or do you want to think

your way through this and fight for a little

while you know and then win Yeah, but you know

an optimus even says okay. All right fine. I

understand you know you're right you're older

and wiser and tell me how to do it and They get

through the battle With their with their with

their wits and just beating this thing in the

submission. And I like that. I like the fact

that, you know, they don't have to combine with

each other and power up in order to defeat the

monster. It's not a it's it's a huge departure

from the Japanese shows where yeah Yeah, this

is not our motto where optimus prime combined

with jet fire blah blah blah Exactly, but there's

no way I'm gonna be able to defeat this thing

unless I combine with jet fire and put on my

magic pants Or jet fire jet was it pants fire

Optimus pants. I forget. Yeah Exactly. It's like

I gotta keep doing this over and over and over

again No, but they they win by thinking with

which I really enjoy and I think that that's

such a good example for for kids what I don't

like is a pole vaulting I Don't consider pole

vaulting to be a suitable attack You mean Optimus

and his energy axe? Yeah, the handle of the axe

shoots out in this long pole. It hits the ground,

and he pole vaults. And it gives a midair kick

to whoever he's pole vaulting towards. And I

just don't like that. I think it's kind of dumb.

You have an axe with a rocket on the end of it.

Swing really fast. But instead of actually cutting

into your foe, what you do is you kind of pole

vault and kick him. It's like, yeah, I don't

like it. But yeah, I mean, you get into Tara,

Tara, you get in the sorry. You get in the sorry.

Stowing away and bumblebee. and go down to their

base. And first of all, it's like, why would

he do that? You know, it's that just goes to

show you that this is not your G1 Bumblebee.

This is well, G1 Bumblebee was the first one

to let, you know, Spike jump in there and come

out. Right. But what I'm saying is G1 Bumblebee

wouldn't be as dumb as this Bumblebee where where

she goes, am I going to be able to breathe down

there? Let's breathe. That's right, but he went

on he went on AOL and downloaded on the information

There's a prodigy know all about this stuff Yeah,

well as long as we're confusing sorry with Tara.

Yeah, I would happily Tara strong hide in my

car any day That's not the back seat the front

seat okay fine in the back seat all right so

anyways moving on shut up um okay so since we're

talking about them back at the back in the ship

here i tried to pause and check but when bumblebee

dumps her into the into where the all spark is

into the garbage chute Yeah. Since when does

a garbage chute go to the storage bay? Well...

You're gonna keep your... At least it's better

than being stuck in a garbage chute and, you

know, things pulling you under and you having

to use lightsabers on it. But anyway. So when

she gets down there, she has this key card for

her sum deck tower, for wherever she lives with

her dad or whatever. She's got this plastic key

card. the AllSpark somehow wakes itself up and

she I don't remember she held her key out or

if the AllSpark energy kind of just was magnetically

holding her key card out in front of her and

then You see this flash of all like a bunch of

past Autobots and then you see a flash of a bunch

of other faces that are humans and I tried to

deposit to see if I could Get any of the human

images. I wasn't able to do so. Yeah, but after

that she's like we just have a conversation.

Oh My god, I didn't notice the flash with the

faces Oh, I noticed the flash of the faces with

the robots, but I also noticed the flash with

the faces of the humans as well, because it was

like the AllSpark told her about the robots,

and then the AllSpark got from her the humans.

Interesting. Yeah, I'm going to have to go back

and watch it again to make sure, but I could

have sworn that there were two sets of images.

There was robots and humans. Which is I'm gonna

have to go back and look at it again because

that doesn't sound familiar to me. Yeah So then

you know they they create the the plot device

of the magic key That's the McGuffin sorry becomes

the world's cutest McGuffin Oh wait wrong show

And then of course, you know they go back up

because apparently oh we cut to a scene where

some deck has got his dot like there there are

divers in the water and they're like oh we have

to go up there my dad's probably looking for

me and then they're like fan zones like all right

fire on them or whatever else and Like put your

hands up. So they all liked this is so weak to

me This looks so weird the Autobots are all like

hunched over like they're half bent over in front

of them with their hands up It looks like they're

it looks like they're menacing giant freaking

robots. It doesn't look like they're surrendering

anything I was thinking zombie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

and you know and Then some that comes out like

no, no, that's my daughter put your arms down

or put everybody lower your weapons it's okay

guys you can put your arms down down now um and

she says when they tell them to put their arms

up she goes oh maybe it's to make you look less

scary i would think when they put them up as

michael said zombies it probably made them more

scary more scary yeah uh so then we have that

and then they have this whole hero scene of they're

the heroes of detroit now and And then we, huh?

Well, and then we cut to Starscream where he's

found the Allspark energy signature thing, and

he gets to Earth, and some deck's like, I paid

for six jets, not seven. The Crimson Angels.

Yeah. I like that, as opposed to the Blue Angels.

Yeah. But yeah, Starscream, I like him. But I

think he got off really easy here. I mean Megatron

is searching for this thing for four million

years and Starscream gets off with 50 It's not

really fair He got hosed he just got lucky he's

like, yeah that good Um and then uh, so Starscream

is the party crasher and of course the battle

ensues with Starscream My one problem actually

comes at the very end of the the final part of

this episode here, but I'll bring it up now How

is it at the end of the episode where yes? I

know that during this this battle they mentioned

this like the Autobots mentioned Decepticons,

and they mentioned this and they mentioned that

But how does the fucking TV announcer know that

Starscream was a Decepticon at the very end?

That's just something that bugged the hell out

of me, and I know I'm jumping ahead here, but

Funniest thing was it's like after Starscream

shows up. They're like. Oh, it's a Decepticon

What are we gonna do now? As long as we work

together as a team we can all do it. Let's all

hold hands and sing Kumbaya Twice because because

they all do like you know the the whole you know

team player basketball football huddle thing

where they all put their hands in the center

and go go team prime it's like oh my god okay

and the one of the good things i'll i'll give

bulkhead this did he punch star scream in the

gut or the nuts With his wrecking ball because

it looked like it was a skewed area on Starscream's

body It's almost all skewed area though. Oh my

god. Yes, and uh You know Starscream you shouldn't

monologue during a game of keep away And then

optimus what you were talking about his axe earlier

With his whole grappling hook thing. It could

be equivalent to Batman, but I equated it to

Spider -Prime. He's swinging from building to

building. And then, of course, Starscream crashes

into him. Spider -Prime. Spider -Prime. Spider

-Prime. Spider -Prime. Does whatever a Spider

-Prime does. Oh, no! Optimus dies in the premiere

of the series! No! Yeah, because it's not Transformers

unless Prime dies. I know. Well, it's one of

those things where this is so just so bad because

it's like, she's like, oh, wait, I'm not. Well,

I will give sorry points. She didn't just lay

there and sob into his hand like like Daniel

did. Yeah. She actually decides to try to do

something like, no, this isn't the end. Blah,

blah, blah, blah, blah. But after she revives

him, like when he first opens his eyes, it would

have been so much more awesome if he had, after

he woke up and he sat up, it would have been

so much better if he said, you're all alive.

Why would that be, why would that be better?

Because that's what Ultra Magnus said when they

brought, when the Junkions brought him back to

life. Oh. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. How about

that? Sure. It's a G1 reference. But he didn't

get to say, open, damn it, open. I thought for

a second there that you were doing a... Yeah,

never mind. It would have been a strange reference

to make. And then my final note is at the end

that I mentioned about the TV announcer. Like,

how the hell does he know that Starscream is

a Decepticon? I don't think that the Autobots

even said Decepticons to the humans or whatever

else, but my final note is they left this on

a cliffhanger because Sumdak is keeping secrets

and the disembodied head of Megatron. Dun -dun

-dun! Dun -dun -dun! Oh, man! Ladies and gentlemen,

for one night and one night only! The disembodied

head of Megatron. Watch him do his headstand.

Watch him. He was ahead of his time. He should

have stopped while he was ahead. I think we've

done these before. Yes, you have. And it's one

of those things where it's so weird to me about

like, because some decks like. If they knew where

my robotics empire really came from, would they

ever forgive me? You just met the fucking Autobots.

You haven't even, you've maybe known them a day

and a half. Yet the way he makes it sound is,

oh, we've been friends for years. We're best

buds. I don't think that he means it in such

a way that I'm harboring their worst enemy. He

means it in such a way that, you know, they don't

realize that I'm... Have the head of one of their

friends, and I'm using it to conduct experiments

on his Megatron Hasn't really talked to him yet,

but once he does make his presence known and

say hey, I'm Megatron He doesn't say the Autobots

are my sworn enemies, and I will kill them all

he says oh Yeah, they're friends of mine, but

I don't think it's such a good idea if you tell

them about me because you know I don't know how

they're gonna react toward you, and I think that's

what he's Making reference to here is oh man.

I've been doing medical experiments on their

friends' dead body for the last fifty years and

I don't think they're gonna dig that so much.

Well, but he doesn't know. I mean, he doesn't

know until later episodes that, you know, Megatron

doesn't awaken until later episodes. The head

of Megatron didn't awaken here. They just showed

it off. It doesn't awaken until the next episode,

I think. Home is where the spark is. And that's,

you know, the next episode is when, is where

he reveals himself, I believe. So here at the

end of this, I think it would be kind of premature

for your explanation for that because of... Megatron

doesn't know who Megatron is. Right, exactly.

He can't make a, yeah, he can't make an inference

because he just doesn't know. Yeah, I think that's

about as close as we're going to get. Yeah, that's

true. He's not going to immediately assume that,

oh, this giant head that I have belongs to their

sworn enemy, and he's just thinking along the

lines of, wow, I went 50 years and didn't realize

there were any more out there, and they were

at the bottom of Lake Erie. He's like when he

first saw them they look remarkingly Remarkably

familiar. There's something familiar about these

things about the giant robot heads. Where have

I seen that before? It's only so many places

you can see them like the one you have cut up

in your lab Any other thoughts on transform and

rollout Steve Steve yes Any other thoughts on

Transform and Rollout? Did you have anything

else you wanted to bring up? Uh, not really.

So we've pretty much covered everything that

you wanted to mention or make fun of? Yes. I

have lots of things to make fun of, yeah. Okay,

that's fine. I just wanted to make sure that,

you know, I don't want to not include Steve here,

because we've kind of been running the whole

gambit here, so... What else you got, Michael?

Uh... The and I'm going to recap here for people

who watch the movie as opposed to the individual

episodes But part three starts out where the

Autobots are having to deal with their newfound

fame Where instead of the humans going? Oh my

god, you you know totally You know trashed our

city there they're now famous. Yeah, they're

being seen as heroes and What they don't realize

though is that You know, they're on TV and Starscream

is up in space watching them on TV They'll realize

that you know Starscream is gonna show up and

trounce them all But this is the the first time

that we hear David Kay say my name is Optimus

Prime And it won't be the last it won't be the

last it almost because of somewhat of a running

joke especially between him and Megatron Or Megatron

will just refuse to call him by name. Which I

didn't realize that this was the first time he

said it. I thought it was an Optimus Megatron

thing. Not something that he said to Starscream.

I think he did say it on the ship when he was

fighting Megatron. Oh did he? On Omega. I think

he did. I didn't catch it if he did but it would

have been awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he didn't

say it he he hasn't said it yet to the point

where he's so frustrated with Megatron not like

it's not at the very end of the series where

he's like my name is Optimus Prime It's not like

that. It's just like a gentle reminder exactly.

Yeah, but I will be a huge pain in your ass No

succeeding for you In the in the park did you

guys hear the the voiceover There's a it was

funny. It was a guy talking to his kids and he's

like honey Don't put that in your mouth. Okay,

cuz there's a lot of germs here at the park.

I Heard I had listened to it like three times

to figure out what he was saying, but I thought

that was funny. That's the scene where We're

optimists asks are I almost said optimist asks

RC. We're optimists asks sorry. How do you get

those smaller organics? How are they made? I

don't know what she whispers to him, but the

look on his face is priceless. I know. It's just,

you know, it's like one of those MasterCard commercials

priceless. He's like, you know, okay when two

people love each other a whole lot It's like

you little flesh bags are gross enough, but the

fact that you procreate is kind of like you're

making me sick Oh god, it'll get even better

when we get further in especially when we get

to season three It'll get even better when we

get to season two. Oh my god when the elite guard

show up I know I know it'll get so much better

I love that. Yeah, so Starscream shows up and

they all start fighting and they really prove

more than once that they can work as a team.

And even Sari gets in on the teamwork because

she's like, okay, here's my plan. And my first

thought is, you know, your plan is to get the

hell off my hand and shut the fuck up. Yeah,

and it was just funny because and then I see

it was a commercial here I didn't see the commercial

but it's a commercial break, but when it comes

back That's pretty much what office prime says

is no your ass is gonna sit here You're gonna

sit here and you're gonna see you say put and

of course she doesn't which is all well and good

but again is showing that optimus prime is He's

a green leader He leads and he knows what he's

supposed to be telling people to do whether or

not they listen is another thing whether or not

he's actually right is a complete other thing

and He's learning to accept these things and

and learning from these experiences. This is

cool. I Like that. I do it said it's it's a huge

departure from The g1 opmus prime who always

says the right thing always does the right thing

I don't know about always, but that's a discussion

for another day. Most of the time. We're talking

about Cartoon Prime here, we're not talking about

Cartoon Prime. I know, I know. We're not talking

about giving somebody their face. No, I'm not

either. Yeah, continue Michael. Okay, Bumblebee.

He's so likeable. He's like, you can trust his

face, can't you? No, not really. If it's full

day in hell. You hate, I know. He grows on me.

I admit, when they develop his character and

they make him less of an arrogant asshole, he

does grow on me. But I'm sorry, in the first

season, Bumblebee is just a complete ass. I just

don't like that. I'm not saying it has to be

the G1 timid character of Bumblebee. You can

make him a different character. You don't have

to make him the most arrogant asshole in the

entire fucking universe. Well, again, I think

if you're familiar with Teen Titans, and you're

familiar with Beast Boy characters, here's our

Beast Boy, right? And here's our Tank, and here's

our Ninja, and here's our will -be -gotten leader.

They're very cookie -cutter, but again, they

grow, and that's a testament to the writing.

We say this is almost cliche in our in our Beast

Wars podcast, but Every week it was like the

writing is so incredible and I think we're gonna

see a lot of that in this one, too Because it's

just a such a well -written Well, I will say

that I Didn't realize this until I watched season

3 When they give you more of the backstory This

entire series is more Ratchet's story than anybody

else's I Might buy that I mean the series I'm

not sure if I buy that for the series. I might

buy that for a dollar well for those for the

early season because you get you get ratchet

who has the most story to tell because he was

in the Great War and he was there during you

know the all this stuff that was going on and

all the stuff that happened to RC, which brings

RC into the mix. But there's a history between

him and lockdown and then the history between

lockdown and the Decepticons and how all that

ties together flows through Ratchet. Yeah, I

see that. But then I'm not sure if it's season

two or season three when you start seeing a similar

backstory for Prowl. Yeah, I mean there's three

different backstories you have optimus ratchet

and prowl that have that all and Technically

four because you have bumblebee and bulkheads

back story Yeah, bumblebee and bulkhead in the

Academy, which is its own story What I'm saying

is as far as the series being mainly ratchets

overall stories is because of what you just said

because he was He is the oldest of the Autobots

in this group. He was in the Great War. He was

on Cybertron. He has seen all this action. That's

what I mean about it being his overall story

for the entire series. I mean, yes, there are

all these other plots that interject together,

but just after everything that came out of the...

the flashbacks in season 3. I just saw it being

Ratchet's story overall. Right. Well, I can see

how Ratchet spices up the story with, you know,

history. The historical facts, right? But I'm

not sure if the whole thing... On this day in

history, I sat on a rock. You know, it's funny

too because he kind of reminds me of Cup. And

I tend to call him Dr. Cup. Oh my god. It's like,

you Gwipnir snappers! And it's like, oh, it's

Dr. Cup. Get off my lawn! You respect your elders

a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. And

what's funny is that it's almost, I don't want

to say almost the same personality because I

got into this problem with Starscream earlier

in the conversation, but when you look at Transformers

Prime Ratchet, how, again, it's the old crockety

or persnickety doctor. And I like that personality

for Ratchet. I really dig it. Much better than...

Let's say the movie Ratchet, which I didn't really

like and who only got like two lines in the third

movie. But I won't go into that. But the thing

about Ratchet, both in this series and especially

Transformers Prime, like this Ratchet, it's Corey

Burton's spin on Ratchet. With Transformers Prime,

I don't dislike Ratchet in that series. I actually

really love the character in that. That's the

one issue I have. It's not that Jeffrey Combs

does the voice. It's because Jeffrey Combs does

the voice that I want to see Ratchet in a giant

blue trench coat and Fedora hat. Oh, because

you're thinking of the question. Because I'm

thinking that was the first exposure I had to

Jeffrey Combs was the question from Justice League.

Oh my god. You know what? You go out and rent

reanimator right now. Jeffrey combs and reanimator

is a Herbert West. He's awesome. He is awesome

And you know the sequels maybe so so but it's

always Jeffrey combs back coming back as Herbert

West and it's It's one of my favorite favorite

shows one of my favorite movies and then really

one of my favorite franchises It's awesome getting

back to this though when I hear Ratchet on this

show. I I'm hearing Jeffrey combs in my head

Thinking this would have been cool with Jeffrey

Cohen was doing the voice But I do like I said

I do like Cory Burton's version I mean because

he does play that old he plays the old and cranky

up, right? this is the first time we've had old

and cranky ratchet and and again again, you know,

it's Jeffrey combs gets it from here or at least

I should say it The story is written from this

The way the way the way it's played. I'm not

sure if Jeffrey combs watched, you know animated

before he did ratchet But yeah, it's it's it's

very similar, but I think I prefer Jeffrey's

voice better It's interesting I'm gonna change

gears completely here. Sorry, but it's interesting

how at the end When optimus prime dies, right

quote -unquote dies How the all spark Opens up

like the matrix It's like they grab either side

and pop it open and it's you know, yeah And it

well when I say matrix, I mean like, you know

the the matrix from the movie Yeah, I'm sorry

the animated movie from 1986 not you're talking

about optimus's chest No, I'm talking about the

the all spark. Oh His handles on either side

and right when you pull it open It's like the

matrix of leadership a slightly boxier version

Yeah, the circular matrix. But yeah, it's uh,

that's what it looked like to me and it pops

open and brings out most prime back to life again,

you know, he was dead because he turned gray

and And and again, it would be transformers without

the death of a prime And the fact that his chest

opens up and he's got a spark chamber Yeah, with

a spark in it, which I thought was really really

cool. I liked that a lot But it was a needed

having prime died Yeah, it was though just to

bring him back in the same episode if this was

just a pilot movie And it didn't get picked up

and it was just an hour and a half special And

you didn't have Prime die. No, it didn't. Well,

I'm glad that they got picked up and I'm glad

that they had three good seasons. But, you know,

three excellent seasons. But you got to have

Prime die at least once. But no, they brought

him back to life. It was very cool. And I want

to end it on that, but I had one more thing that

I was going to bring up. You don't remember do

you I do it was it's like I wanted I kind of

want to end on the prime dying note, but I won't

Though the windshields of the cars when they're

in the vehicle mode they alone with their windshields

Yeah, that's a little strange. It's it's very

Pixar. It's not quite cars Yeah, well cars Pixar's

cars, right? They don't have eyeballs that you

know, but it's almost like there's a reflected

light or reflection and it moves Kind of you

know, they kind of give the impression of eyes

or eyebrows. It's almost like eyebrows Yeah,

it's more so on bumblebee and bulkhead than almost

any of the others. I Notice it most on those

two. Yeah. Yeah exactly I like that. I think

that's a cool thing. It's a nice trait It's considering

they spend a lot of time in vehicle mode. I mean

even on the base They're not standing around

in robot mode all the time. Yeah Well bulkhead

kind of has to stand around in robot mode because

if he transforms inside the ship and They're

done for yeah so Steve any final thoughts on

the movie premiere of transformers animated other

than those few issues with it it started off

strong and definitely Especially for someone

who didn't give a rat's ass about it When it

started I I ended up hooked Yeah, and had to

watch it every week. So therefore I would say

that it's definitely a strong start to the series

Michael any final thoughts on this this beginning?

Yeah, I have to agree with Steve that you know

again it was like I don't know about this but

then when you see it it's so cool and it draws

you in uh with the story and with the g1 references

and you know the promises of better things to

come that you know you know OmegaTron is coming

back Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, like I said,

they ended this on a cliffhanger. Like, oh my

God, it's Megatron's disembodied fucking head.

So you know he's coming back. And you know, there's

other Autobots out there, like Ultra Magnus,

who is just dead on Robert Stack. Don't try to

be a hero optimist. You know, it's like, oh my

God, they resurrected Robert Stack to do this

voice. It's actually Jeff Bennett that does that

voice. Yeah. Yeah, he's doing it. He's doing

a Robert Sack in First Nation But Robert Sack

was the guy who did the voice in the right movie.

Yeah, and it was you know, it was just really

special to hear that and Again, you know that

there's more Stuff out there and that this is

gonna end up being a really a really special

Special not in the sense of yeah a special a

special ride if you will a romp Yes, yes or a

romp there we go For me, I agree with you guys.

This is one of the reasons why I like doing After

it's over big picture podcasts of going back

and looking at stuff instead of doing podcasts

in the way of Reviewing it as episodes come out

Because this way I can go back and I can watch

and I can really really look for stuff Like,

I mean, some of the references that I did point

out did pop out at me immediately. Some of them

really didn't. Some of them I kind of, you know,

I made references where there wasn't any like,

that's no scout ship, that's the nemesis, you

know. You know, stuff like that. So, all in all.

Yeah, well, when you look at it in its entirety

and you see... You know much later on we're gonna

see the elite guard. We're gonna see Sentinel

Prime We're gonna see Ultra Magnus and they hinted

at them a tiny bit in this in this movie in the

very first I should say the first episode Yeah,

but you know, they know there's a coming up,

but there's hints here For stuff that's going

to be happening later on in the series. Yeah,

and they they They have the lay of the land,

let's say. They've got it planned out well enough

ahead, at least for the first season, that they

can drop these little hints as to what's coming

up. Oh, yeah. I love... Even though I don't really

care for the character of Sentinel, I just love

the way Optimus shuts him up. Display cargo,

hold visual. Hold, please. And he goes, ooh.

You know, like, that kind of bothered me in the

sense that... You have this, you know, maintenance

crew, you know, space janitors, right? And they're

out in the middle of nowhere and they find this

box and they're like, I don't know what this

box is. Ratchet knows. And he's like, we got

to get the fuck off this rock. And he immediately

packs it up and heads back for the ship. No one

else seems to know what it is until they get

it back to the ship and analyze it. They show

a picture of it. To Sentinel Prime and he. automatically

says, I'll get Ultra Magnus for you. Yeah. It's

like, how does he know what it is? That's yeah.

That doesn't make any sense. That's that's a

plot hole we can explore in any future episode.

So I'm willing to overlook it. Yeah, it's one

of those nitpick things. It's one of those things

you look at something too closely. You're like

ow my eyeball Brain freeze. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly

So I think we're gonna go to some ads and then

we're going to actually go to Cybertron and hear

Kevin's thoughts on the premiere I will say that

Kevin's segment this time around is slightly

longer than what his normal segments will be

just because that this is the premiere extra

long episode yeah exactly three so we're going

to be doing that and we will be back with the

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don't be I like my name. No, I mean my name is

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animated. Now the topic today was transform and

rollout. Before I get into my notes for this

episode or this series of episodes let me just

remind you if you haven't listened to episode

0 that I have not seen this series so these are

my thoughts as I'm seeing these episodes for

the very first time. Let's get right into it.

First of all, since this is the first episode

of the series, I've got to talk a little bit

about the voices and the looks real quick before

I get into the content for the episodes. As far

as voices go, good voices. I loved the voice

for Ratchet. Alright, I love Sentinel Prime and

Ultra Magnus' voices, even though they weren't

in there very much, obviously, for this first

episode. And I love basically all of the Decepticon

voices, especially Megatron's. And for that matter,

the humans were fine too, especially Terra Strong,

as the voice of Sari was really good. So I liked

all of those. The bad voices, and I'm a Sari

because I know there's a lot of fans of the people

that are voicing these guys, but Optimus Prime,

right off from the bat, you know, right from

the get -go... just didn't fit. The voice doesn't

fit him, and I just can't stand it. I'm trying

to get used to it, but David Kay as Optimus Prime

is just not doing it for me. Bumblebee? What

can I say about Bumblebee? Bumblebee is probably,

hands down, the worst voice in the show so far.

I'm sorry, Bumper Robinson. And I don't think

it's a coincidence that I also don't like your

voice of Blitzwing, the only Decepticon voice

I don't like. Other than that, Prowl, I get you're

going for something different. I'm hopefully

going to get used to that voice, because that's

not doing it for me. And the only other voice

that I have a problem with is the Teletran 1

voice. I mean, we have been spoiled by really

great voices of Teletran 1 in the original series,

as well as Sentinel and Beast Wars. And this

Teletran 1 voice is just kind of boring. It doesn't

pop. It doesn't do anything cool like I'm used

to for the Transformers computers. So hopefully

I'll get used to some of those voices, but yeah.

I mean at one point I wanted Starscream to actually

kill Bumblebee, so I wouldn't have to listen

to him anymore. As far as the looks go, I do

like the alt modes a little bit better than the

robot modes. Obviously I've expressed my disdain

for the overall look of the Transformers, but

I can look past this and I'm starting to get

used to it, so I don't think it's going to bother

me. And the transformers do look way better than

the humans look because the humans are god -awful

as far as the design goes for that. I'm sorry

Derek J .Y. but your humans are terrible. And

that may be the ugliest baby I've ever seen in

an animated form, the one that they show in this

series. The backgrounds, however, look great.

The scenery looks great. Everything else looks

great so... I'd put the backgrounds and the scenery

at the top, then the alt modes, then the robot

modes, then the humans, and then the ugly baby

at the end. Alright, well let's get right into

some of the more detailed thoughts on the show.

I'm going to start with the low lights because

I'd like to end on a positive note. The history

video flashback that they start with looked absolutely

great and I wanted to love this, but... they

needed to not have this as part of the show.

I understand that Transformers animated is its

own continuity which I have a problem with already

because I don't understand why you always have

to have new continuities in the Transformers

universe but I understand that and I'm fine with

the fact that it's its own continuity but if

it's its own continuity don't show a video that

completely contradict some of the stuff you're

going to be showing. I mean the flashback video

is on Cybertron right before they make the journey

and fall to earth originally and Optimus Prime

would have been there. So you can't show this

flashback and then make it seem like Optimus

Prime was never there, didn't know anything about

it, didn't know these people, etc. etc. It just

brings up a whole bunch of continuity contradictions.

So if you're going to be your own continuity,

don't flashback to a separate continuity. It's

just bad. Another low light, I really hope that

they're not going to use the line BigBot in reference

to Optimus Prime throughout this whole series.

I didn't have a problem with it in Beast Wars,

but please don't call him BigBot again. Please,

please, please, please. As far as some of the

actual storyline stuff, were they really spraying

a huge bug monster thing with fire hoses? Are

the humans really that retarded? Yeah, and where

the arc landed it wasn't very deep or hidden

I mean I know what they say it was at the bottom

of whatever Lake Erie or whatever But well when

they show it animated wise in the actual animation

I'm not buying that the humans would have never

found that or never seen that but that's just

a minor one That's just me being picky much less

of a problem with that then I have with this

magic freaking key that Sari is wearing What

the freaking hell is that, besides a fucking

plot device thing that you can just use at will?

And they've already used it three freaking times

in the first episode. The Magic Key may ruin

this entire series for me. That is way too Unicron

Trilogy -esque, and it's gonna make me mad. Just

two other things. Is that Optimus Prime or Rodimus

Prime? Because a few of those lines made it sound

a lot more like Rodimus Prime and I almost vomited

in my mouth. The only other problem I have is

the recycled writing here. The origin story is

almost identical to all the other Transformers

ones we've had. You have a battle or war or some

type of fight going on in space. You crash land

on Earth and you fight over, you know, we're

fighting over a matrix or an all spark. We're

playing keep away with it. And then... How many

times can we possibly play the whole Optimus

Prime dies card? Really? The first freaking episode,

we've already played it again. I think I've seen

this five times in Transformers history. This

is pathetic. Get some new writing, write some

creative stuff that hasn't been done already.

Some things I'm on the fence about. Transformers

getting tired and needing rest or naps. I don't

remember ever seeing this before in Transformers

history. I'm not saying I don't like it. I'm

just not saying I like it yet. I'm still thinking

about that one, so we'll see. The other thing

I'm on the fence about is the appearance of Blackarachnia.

Now I realize that this series, from what I've

heard, is going to have all kinds of different

moments that we reference G1 or Beast Wars or

this or that. But really, Blackarachnia in with

all these other people. I mean, I like the voice.

I like the character. I like the look. But she

shouldn't be with these other people. They didn't

live at the same time. I'm on the fence about

it. I'll let it slide for now since I know I'm

going to have to deal with that and a bunch of

other things. As far as highlights go, I love

the interaction between the humans and the Transformers

so far. I like that they're not trying to hide

that they're out there. The humans know they're

there. And the dialogue between each of them.

And even though I diss the writing, the actual

dialogue is not bad. The whole sprung a leak

when Sari starts crying made me laugh. The playing

of Sari as in being sorry about something and

sorry the name. was fine, and I love Starscream's

line, probably my favorite line about, you can't

deceive a Decepticon. So some great dialogue

in there. The weaponry was great. I loved the

weaponry. Just some cool things going on there

as far as throwing the circles, the disc as far

as Prowl goes. The other thing with Bulk, when

he throws a thing out of his arm. So the weaponry

was cool. And I liked the full circle of having

them start. by working on bridges in space and

end by working on bridges in on earth that was

a cool little full full circle moment so i don't

know so far i'm kind of on the fence about a

lot of things there was a lot of things that

drove me nuts especially the magic key But there's

enough that I'm gonna keep watching obviously

and and hopefully it'll go up from here as far

as like a first episode And the origin story

and kind of a pilot I've seen much better, so

I'm gonna give this one a rating of four out

of ten So this has been optimus solo your cyber

churning correspondent, and we'll see you for

the next episode I got a vibe tells me I should

be sitting in on this scene for a while Now back

to Transformation Animation Podcast. So thank

you to the stranded Cybertronian correspondent

Kevin Optimus Solo Thompson. Let's see. His thing

about Optimus Prime and the G1 thing. The G1

little history vid thing was just an in -joke

as we've said earlier in this episode. And as

we've also said, this Optimus is supposed to

be a younger Optimus. He's not the same character

as in G1. What else do we need to respond to

to Kevin to set the record straight? I Liked

his point about sleeping Yeah, that is a little

weird Yeah, several times. They're like I gotta

take a nap and you know It's something that we're

used to seeing in like Star Wars where C -3PO

is like don't eat me I'll take a nap and or I'll

power down for a while and Luke says sure go

ahead he shuts down but You know to have ratchet

wake up covered in parking tickets or parking

tickets that they're parking stickers stickers.

Yeah stickers tickets Yeah, that seems a little

strange It also points out the need for a base

or place or a home where they can yeah without

being ticketed Yeah, I agree with the key statement

Yeah, I think we can all agree with the key statement.

I mean, the key is gonna get old really fast.

Sorry, someday. It's gonna get old. It is old.

World's cutest Spaguffin. Yeah, it gets old before

the end of this episode. Like, Sari herself I

can deal with. She's up to the point where Animated

was released. She's probably one of the better

humans between... The end you want to now You

know, I mean, you know, she's no kicker. Thank

God. Well, she's more of a female rad Hi, I'm

rad let me tell you about the Transformers Oh

God His name was rad the kids. Yeah. Yeah I kind

of disagree with Kevin on Blitzwing's voice,

as I said earlier. Yes, I know it is just an

Arnold impression, but like you said, Michael,

I like the interaction between the three personalities.

Yeah. So thank you to Kevin. Steve, did you want

to, anything else you want to respond to Kevin's

little clip there? I disagree with his comment

about Prime. Granted, it was different. to hear

that right off the bat, being that you'd normally

expect Peter Cullen or Gary Chalk, being that

those were the only two pretty much that actually

made a freaking difference between the original

and now. But I thought it was a nice touch because,

like you said, he's a green leader. He's brand

new. It's it's just it adds to the young feel

of him Yeah, and as a first time viewer Kevin

might not know that later on in the series They

explain how he ended up in that position and

the fact that he he is a hero Right and and they

and Kevin might not also know because he hasn't

ever watched the series about black arachnia

where It's not just them inserting black arachnia

from Beast Wars as a reference. It is you know

That has a whole other character arc in the series.

She's not just a Beast Wars reference. She's

a G1 reference. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll get to

that What I will say about Transformers animated

they truly Created their own Cybertronian culture

I mean, if you look at it on a whole, and I'm

sure we'll do this once we get to the end of

the podcast, but if you look at it on a whole,

everything in this series, it's a reference to

most stuff. Some stuff, there's a lot of references,

but it's not just references. There are reasonings

within this continuity for what happens. Right.

It was very well thought out. Yeah. It was so

very well thought out. So thank you for joining

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Wilson and Steve Megatron Phillips. We'll tap

you again next week and for the first couple

weeks. We are gonna go weekly We do I do have

a plan I want to try it out and see how the weekly

goes if we need more time We'll go to bi -weekly,

but next week. We have a super special surprise

I don't normally do this, but I'm going to anyway

next week shut up What do you mean boo? You're

the one no I said no don't tell them oh It's

our little secret fine Although if they wanted

to hint all they'd have to do is go to the future

guest page and then yeah put two and two together

to figure out Who's still missing the actual

link to their interview? Yes, exactly. Well,

actually there's two people but that's another

topic for another show anyway But yes Next week,

we will have a super awesome interview along

with recording episode 2 of taps. So we will

see you then Tap that ass. I was just waiting

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