Super-Loser Draft

Hey, this is Steve Blum, and you are listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. You are now on

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of trust. We are all connected to create the

circle of life. You know something, Bert? I think

you and I are going in circles. It feels like

we're going in circles. The circle is now complete.

When I left you, I was but the learning. Now

I am the master. Because it's a circle. Yeah,

we heard about the circle. Yeah, it's what the

million would change. Hi, this is Greg. This

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Network, the podcast that is all back together

again. Greg's all special assignment. I'm here.

I know we've been having a lot of breaks recently.

I was sick last week, so we are back and better

than ever, though, as we get into one of our

favorite things to do here, which are drafts.

And we're going to have a super loser draft coming

up in our second segment as we try to draft the

dumbest and ridiculous characters that have ever

existed in comics in our second half of the show.

But before we get to all that fun, how's things

been going for you guys? Uh, things are pretty

good. I've been doing stuff lately, so, uh, nothing

too eventful, but I went to a couple of these,

like, free concert things that are in our area

and they're basically like, uh, They're like

tribute bands and like every week there's like

a different tribute band that plays. And, uh,

I went to a couple of them with some coworkers

and stuff. We went to one, uh, it was an Aerosmith

tribute band and they were okay. They had a couple,

a couple of the songs they did, did a pretty

good job on. And, um, some of them they didn't

and they were playing like other band songs and

stuff. I'm like, no, that's, that's not what

you do. We think Aerosmith will also like this

music They were doing like a drum like a drum

solo and a saxophone solo it was just really

weird Throwing in like it like different instruments

that never existed in Aerosmith. They have a

violin and an oboe I'm like, yeah, I don't remember

a saxophone solo any Aerosmith song though. I

could be wrong Gotta listen to Love in the Elevator

again. Yeah They did do that one and that was

pretty exciting that was like one of the better

ones that they performed so Well, they ragged

all and a couple other ones are really good so

then a couple weeks later we went to another

one and that was the Beatles and That was like,

let me just say As far as the audience goes,

that was a totally different crowd than the arrows.

I mean, these people were like way older. It

was just so much more mellow. Everyone's just

standing there instead of dancing. Totally different

crowd. But how many people that were there thought

it was actually the Beatles? I don't know. Probably

a lot. they had like it was weird like these

guys went all out like they had the haircuts

down they had the outfits like they were like

they thought they were the Beatles and they were

okay i mean they did okay but for the most part

i i think they were i would agree to them worse

than the Aerosmith one but these are free events

and uh you know so you really can't ask too much

yeah it's at the the local casino by us You know,

just the local casino right around the corner.

Which is actually a tribute casino to the movie

casino, which is weird. Right. If you don't pay

your bill, they take you in the back and smash

your fingers with hammers. That was probably

the exciting part. Other than that, I've watched

a little bit of preseason football, kind of getting

psyched up for that and trying to figure out

my strategy for fantasy football, drafts and

stuff like that. So a lot of good stuff coming

up. Yeah, I had my first fantasy football draft.

It was unexpected. My wife tells me like the

day before oh One of her co -workers wants me

to join her fantasy football league. I'm like

wait what the drafts tomorrow? I'm like, you

can't just bring that on somebody Yeah, and what

get one like what type of league is it is PPR?

You know what? Is there you know, is there a

flex position? She's like, I don't I don't think

they know you gotta come up with strategy You

gotta like need time to game plan Apparently

from that league it sounds like Dan insta win

Right. Just autodrafted in. Yeah, yeah. Well,

there was like, there was a lot of people who

I think who did autodraft. Well, it was interesting

because it was the amount of quarterbacks that

went the first round was unexpected. And then

it kind of just kind of threw me off. But I think

I did OK. I got AP in the second round, so that

was unexpected. I don't like going running back,

running back. But I'm like, if he's there in

the second round, I'm taking him. You already

win. Yeah, but Craig you were off last week.

I know you you had a lot of things going on So

how was your trip to Boston Comic Con? It was

very good It was definitely a very different

than the cons that I'm used to it was a weird

kind of mix of things It was like very much half

vendors and half artists and that such and it

was a little low on like the celebrities and

stuff but that's that's totally fine by me because

I don't really concern myself much with them

after experiences with Lou Ferrigno and Peter

Mayhew but I actually yeah exactly I did have

I did have a run -in with a celebrity almost

literally. Apparently, John Barrowman was walking

behind me and I heard somebody like, oh, Mr.

Barrowman, would you like to buy any of our stuff?

And he's like, no, I have enough stuff. Thank

you. And then apparently he thought he bumped

into me with his bag, but he didn't come even

close. And so he kind of like touched me on the

shoulder. He's like, oh, sorry, bud. So that

was kind of cool. And you were like, Merlin,

you have failed the city. I was like, oh, in

my head, I was like. That's really nice of him.

You fall down in like pain. It's like, here's

my lawyer's number. Oh, geez. No, no, no. I think

your TV daughter is hot. Very hot. I think my

brother was kind of like right behind me next

to him and everything. So that was the cool celeb

experience. Got a whole bunch of comic book signed.

I got a whole bunch of artwork. From that, I

got a bust of Huck from Ralph Albuquerque. I've

got an interior page of a Harley Quinn comic

that just came out. I got an interior from it

from Billy Tucci. And he even put a little thing

that it was his first Harley Quinn art sale at

the bottom. He put a little inscription for me

with my name and stuff. So that was cool. Then

my brother and I also got a lot of stuff at the

Comic art auction. Uh, I was surprised that he,

he, my brother bit as much as he did because

he's not a big comic fan. He got a really nice

Harley Quinn piece. Uh, I got this huge zombie

Batman painting, these very cool, uh, Ninja turtle

drawings, like a little heads and everything.

I did try and go for a Terry dots in peace, but

that got a little bit past my, uh, money cashflow

there. So, uh, it was definitely a good con overall.

I was very happy with how everything went. It's

a lot of walking around and stuff, but it was

a lot of fun. I wish I kind of skipped the Stark

after party. Was it really called the Stark after

party? Yes, it was. Nice. And they had a guy

dressed as Tony Stark there and everything. He

was good until he took his glasses off or spoke

because he had a bit of a Boston accent. You

could tell. And when he took the glasses off,

it kind of ruined the illusion look wise and

everything. But it was fun to see. But I wasn't

feeling too well that night because we ate and

then we got in a cab because it was raining that

night. And it was the first time I've ever been

in a cab and it was a little bit too crazy all

over the place so my stomach wasn't quite settled

so I didn't feel like being there I was tired

I was kind of nauseous and everything but yeah

I dropped a shit ton of money in Boston and I

got a lot of cool stuff if you follow me on Twitter

or if you if you find my comic art fan page there's

a whole bunch of stuff that I got that you could

see on there I'll put in the episode post at

keycastradio .com to also check out the stuff

that you got. So if you don't mind, if you don't

mind. No, that's cool. It's there to see the

question. Did you find any more vintage X -Men

comics? No, I haven't. I've kind of been on the

stall on that recently. Well, I've been kind

of on a comic art tear, because even for Baltimore

that we're going to, I have three commissions

already hooked up. And then for New York City,

I have one signed up for. So I've been on a comic

art tear lately. Yeah, nice, nice. Yeah, this

is the podcast we recorded before Baltimore Comic

Con, and definitely excited for that. I was checking

out the panel schedule. There's actually a bunch

of them. gonna check out. They're Tom King, the

current writer, Batman's having a panel, and

a bunch of like DC and Marvel and Valley and

Boom, IDW, they're all having panels as well.

So there's just, that's gonna be really fun.

Let me backtrack a little bit, but you were talking

about getting comic side, and last week, a few

weeks ago, now as we're recording, actually I

ended up having a comic book scare, in the sense

of I get a call from my wife indicating that

where I keep my comics, the ceiling's leaking.

Oh no. So I'm like, oh no, and she's like, yeah,

the bottom box is definitely ruined. It's like,

you know, you got water damage on the outside

of it, so. I'm like, oh, well, that sucks. But

I mean, I felt like this actually happened around

the same time. There's Ellicott City, which is

an area near us got demolished and had this freak

accident. So that entire city was the story of

people lost their businesses. So I felt like

I can't be that upset about comic books considering

what those people are going through in hindsight.

So I'm like, ah. But it actually ended up being

okay, the box did its job and all the comics

in there were fine. I just have to get, they're

just now in a laundry basket. As I'm trying to,

you know, waiting to get a new box. But it just,

it was interesting because it was like, I haven't

gone through some of these comics in such a long

time. And then I was looking through my Cable

and Deadpool set and excited because Fabian Nienza

is going to be at Baltimore Comic Cons. I'm like,

I can get a lot of these signed. So that's something.

Cool. I have planned on doing. I just found out

from a tweet from Baltimore Comic Con that they're

also having an art auction. Nice, nice. Yeah.

So what is an art auction? What does that entail?

Is it literally just some dude putting up art

and people yelling at money? Like, yelling at

money. Geez. Like, yelling at prices and stuff

like that. Was it intense? Was it like, what

is that show called, where they bid on things

at the... at the storage wars. Is it like storage

wars but with art? This is going to be a reality

TV show is what I'm asking. So we get in there

and it's kind of like theater seating for kind

of like college or something like that. You get

in there and it wasn't that packed yet. Nobody

really showed up in force yet. So they kind of

let you go up and they had the art all kind of

displayed on these shelves and everything. And

you kind of look through and looking to see what

you want to get and everything. And then they

had you go over to a table and there was two

ladies working on laptops and you grabbed a number

off the top of the pile and you told them your

name. My brother and I went off the same number.

We were number five. That's how early we were

into this thing. Then we went and sat down and

it was a non -professional guy doing it. They

kind of switched between three people doing the

auction. It was the guy that was running the

auction. Then he had to leave and then Dave David

Peterson came in, creator of Mouseguard, and

he did his. They were both hilarious. David Peterson

was definitely a little bit more, was a little

bit better with the facts about the pieces and

everything and describing them. And then for

the last couple of random garbage auction pieces,

this other random dude came out of the crowd

and did it. I didn't understand that. But essentially,

he sat there. They would start it off, usually

they start it off, and this went around $25 so

it was really cheap and so a lot of hands went

up and so then it was like 50 and then we'd get

a little bit fewer and so it'd be like 50 one

person throw up this thing then they throw it

and okay do I hear 75 75 and then somebody might

or they might talk about the piece a little bit

more but essentially If you're the last one with

the bid in and everything, and they go going

once, going twice, sold. And you'd just have

to show them your number again, 005. They'd say

that out loud for the ladies. The ladies would

mark that piece down for you and everything.

So, so it wasn't that difficult to do. My brother

was like, uh, getting applause whenever he, he

did his. bidding because the the first piece

he was bidding on he he was like Really working

it. Well, I guess and so he was getting applause

I got some applause in there every once in a

while. I did we both did buy a lot of stuff I

think we both between the both of us we dropped

2k Yeah, but we felt like we got we were getting

a lot of good deals on stuff like the the turtles

one i got it for like 25 bucks cheaper than the

artist estimated on that there was another piece

that was like i got for 75 and the artist estimated

it at 150 i got that batman painting i think

that was only like 100 there there was a whole

bunch of stuff like that that it was like really

it's going this cheap I bought a thing of comic

books if I can't sell them on eBay because I

just got them really cheap. It was like four

of those blank sketch covers with original art

and one of them's like a little kid that did

it. But he does the concert and everything. I'm

going to put those on eBay and everything and

see if I could sell those and make a little bit

of money back off of those and everything. And

then I also sell that Ashley riot piece because

that was like I got it for seventy five bucks.

Like she estimated a hundred and fifty and it's

really a nice looking piece. It's not of a subject

matter that really interests me, but I just got

it for the investment because I figure I could

Sell that off to somebody and make a couple of

bucks there So there's a whole bunch of stuff

like that. My brother got like a pack of prints

from different people around the the floor he

got it for like 35 bucks and they're like these

people were selling them on the floor for like

Twenty twenty five dollars a piece and he got

him that cheap Yeah, cuz the auction was starting

to clear out at the end there wasn't a lot of

people so it like we were and like afterwards

the Couple of the guys that were on the show

were like yeah You guys ran away with it at the

end there like especially they're like you you

got a lot of good things for cheap and everything

and It went to a good cause it was a charity

auction kind of thing So you can also write it

off on your taxes, so there you go. Yes, you're

not getting a ton back, but you can write it

off on your taxes. Well, not something necessarily

that you got, but what was the highest thing

someone bought? at that auction, like the most

expensive. Oh, there was a gorgeous Brian Stelfree's

painting. I forget how much it was, but it was

definitely over 2K. I think it was encroaching

on three thousand. It was a beautiful painting

of Ray from Star Wars. It was just gorgeous.

And that was that was going for a lot. That was

definitely the most prized piece. The second

most prized piece, I believe, was by one of the

guys that I got a commission from, Marcio Takara.

I haven't really heard his name a lot, but I

think we're gonna be hearing more from him. He

had an awesome Batman piece that was, it was

the newer Batman where he has the little robot

thing. It's actually Jim Gordon inside like a

nice suit. then in a reflection in his visor

you could see like the whole Justice League kind

of distorted MC Escher style in the Helmet and

everything and that one went for a couple of

grand as well. So yeah, it was it was a lot of

fun I Recommend people checking out that kind

of stuff because that was I had a lot of fun

During that there was something else. I was gonna

say but it's not coming to me right now So I

might chip in later randomly with something.

Hey, you know, so we're that's what we that's

why you podcast, right? Exactly. I have a question

for you craig sure that I remember you were telling

me about that little uh Like mixer thing with

the artist that was supposed to be before the

con. How was that the the drink and draw? They

were not well organized for at the beginning.

Oh Yes, like we went in and they're, they're

like, you're early. I'm like going ahead. That's

a whole bunch of nerds were early for a lot of

things. Like they should have had it set up beforehand,

like everything. So they're like, okay. And like,

we just kind of came in and sat down. My brother

and I got a seat at a table, but then like we

were encroaching on the time when the artists

are coming in and you can't. sit there the artists

have to sit there so we got kicked off the table

that we were sitting at yeah so that that was

awesome a cool thing about that though is terry

dotson stole my seat he didn't he didn't know

he stole my seat but he stole my seat but you

told them anyways you're like so i was sitting

there that's my spot I didn't do that. I was

I was telling one of the other artists about

it. I'm like, it's cool though. It's Terry Dotson

He's really awesome, but I had a nice chat with

Terry Dotson and like went around talking to

Watching Jimmy Palmiotti screw around was freaking

hilarious. He tried to draw a side shot a Harley

Quinn's face that he just after a while was like

a screw it and then he kind of Blanked out and

then he just drew a pair of boobs, which the

pair of boobs did sell at the auction the next

night. It was it was pretty freaking hilarious

But yeah, we I watched Stan Sakai draw something

Aaron Laprasetti Terry Dodson And then there

was a lot of unknowns kind of in there, but there

were some interesting stuff getting drawn I know

there was like they had some kind of the deviant

art was like holding the auction and everything

or holding the drink and draw and Like they had

like these little pamphlets and everything for

the artists on their tables and like one of the

artists opened up this little pamphlet and like

they had something written in there like we make

lines or something and somebody drew a Pikachu

with a bong and they changed the wording and

they added like a couple letters onto the end

and it's like said we do lines of coke or something

like that so that was that was pretty freaking

hilarious and my brother actually has that piece

now because he won that in a batch auction uh

for really cheap he got some really cool stuff

from that from the drink and draw nice nice so

that was just like something that was part of

the con Yeah, it was it was it was across the

street at a hotel bar They needed to up their

game with the booze. They had they didn't have

a lot of great beers and stuff, but uh Yeah,

they need a little bit more room and everything

to kind of get around and they they they needed

to plan it out a little bit bit better i'm not

sure if this is like the first time they've had

it or what but they needed to and also there

was one guy working there that looked like a

homeless man so that was pretty interesting nice

that wasn't also the guy that was playing 20

stark was it uh no no Funny there you go. I another

the one thing you guys also got a chance to do

I haven't seen it yet I hadn't had the opportunity

but I know you both you did see Suicide Squad

and I'm hearing I'm actually hearing a lot of

different opinions. I know Critically didn't

do that. Well, I know people who who said it

was much better than Batman v Superman I saw

people who were disappointed like it just runs

the game and of opinions Chuck I guess maybe

I'll start with you. Well your actual overall

thoughts of Suicide Squad I'm still trying to

get over that. You haven't seen it yet Just I

wanted to and then this is I've been working

every weekend and I just haven't had the time

So I just and then the fact that it's been it

didn't have the greatest Like I'm not hearing

the greatest reception for it. I'm like I can

wait. I wasn't really that That inclined to go

see it. So it's just you know Yeah, I don't know.

I will say I know I mentioned a couple of episodes

ago when the a second trailer for it came out.

I mentioned that I was not fond of the second

trailer and it sort of made me less excited for

the movie and to a degree that sort of held true.

I think there were a lot of things I was disappointed

in but also on the same token I think it sort

of lowered my expectations which was good because

in a lot of ways it was actually better than

I thought it was going to be too. had kind of

a dual edged effect there. But I think, uh, you

know, overall I walked away like sort of mixed

feelings, but overall I had fun with it. I had

a lot of fun. It was a really cool movie to experience

and everything. I thought the character interaction,

the team interaction was spectacular. I loved

what they did with that. They sort of like, it's

a tough job to do. There's all these, you know,

just misfits that don't really know each other.

And I thought they really brought them together

well and actually like kind of had them like

bonding a little bit and that's that's sort of

a tall order with with when you get this big

of a variety and characters and personalities

and stuff like that but I think actually they

did a really good job sort of blending their

personalities together and almost like making

them sort of like a little family, if you will.

So that part I really enjoyed a lot. Will Smith

I thought was awesome. I was really impressed

with his portrayal of Deadshot. He was probably

my favorite character in the whole movie. I guess

there's some Batman appearances, which I think

we already knew. Those I was very happy with.

I was not disappointed at all. So that was pretty

cool. That was a plus. I will say the biggest

negative thing for me, there was a couple bad

things, but The biggest negative for me was this

whole plot with the main bad guy in the movie.

And I won't say too much, Dan, because you haven't

seen it yet, and for anybody else that hasn't.

But it seemed like the main villain was a little

bit too far -fetched compared to, like, the characters

in the other characters in the movie. Like, it

just sort of seemed inconsistent. You know, you

have all these, like, street -level people, and

then you have this villain that's just, like...

the whole another level and a lot of weird really

really weird things were happening and for me

it was sort of jarring when they would go back

and forth to like showing what was going on with

the villain i mean they're all villains but the

main villain it was sort of jarring going back

forth from that to the team interaction of suicide

squad those were my favorite moments and i was

kind of like almost disappointed when they would

cut away and go to the to the villain so That

was something that I wasn't too happy about it

I thought they could have done a better job with

that maybe even chose a different character Altogether,

I think possibly and I was also a little bit

disappointed than Joker. I don't think he Really

quite pulled it off. Like I was hoping I realized

it's a totally different take and I'm cool with

that, but I just think it came off like kind

of kind of forced in a way like I think I don't

have a problem with what they were trying to

do. I think it. It just could have been done

a little bit better, I guess. I don't know. I

could be the only one that feels that way, but

I don't really have, I guess. The articulation

to put into words, like what exactly I didn't

like about it, but it just didn't pass the sniff

test. Like it just didn't seem like he pulled

it off all that well. So. Yeah, those are sort

of my reactions. So I heard of hearing conflicting

reports regarding how much Joker is actually

in the movie I heard that he's barely in it.

Is that is that an accurate? Is that accurate

is he? I would say It's closer to that. I didn't

think he was in it that much. I mean there's

there's a handful of scenes, but some of them

are very short and then You know, there's times

where He's just non -existent in the plot at

all and you kind of forget about him and stuff

like that So to me, I sort of felt like the trailers

were kind of misleading Yeah, and they're trying

to advertise this, you know this big villain

and like yeah We got the Joker and and then it's

like, you know, he wasn't really a big part of

the whole thing So to me, I kind of felt like

I you kind of got the shaft a little bit cuz

they're kind of like misleading you but yeah

That's disappointing. So Greg is he alone? Do

you agree with this assessment on the Joker as?

Were you disappointed in that performance and

what did you think of? Joker yeah, I could have

done out done without that version of Joker It

wasn't it didn't really add in anything interesting

to the character. It just kind of made him more

of He was just kind of a boring Psychopath he

didn't really have anything interesting to him

like the other iterations as has given them But

as for the movie overall, I thought it was a

fun movie. It was definitely not a technically

sound movie I think the a lot of the actors did

a really great job Will Smith did really good.

I think that's kind of the Will Smith we've been

missing and everything. And I thought Margot

Robbie was fantastic as Harley. She was definitely

a lot of fun and definitely the character that

made the movie great for me. There was definitely

a lot of things that didn't. Connector makes

sense. It was kind of like the Batman versus

Superman problem, but a lot less toned down,

but at least fun So that made it enjoyable. But

I recommended to people, I think if you're into

comic books and that kind of stuff, I think it

would be good to check out. So I definitely think

you should check it out, Dan. I'd love to hear

your synopsis, because you usually run off way

off base from what Chuck and I are usually saying.

You have a different perspective because you're

so into movies and you go to movies that are

Wouldn't even come on chuck in my radar. Yeah,

I tend to watch them upside down Got to worry

about blood flow that way you do you do that's

why you know I will agree with Greg. I thought

Margot Robbie did a great job I was really skeptical

about how she would do but I was I was pretty

happy with I think she made it fun, you know

I was surprised how many times they showed her

butt That's coming from me. I didn't think it

was that much like they showed it constantly.

It was always if it wasn't directly on screen,

you could usually see something every once in

a while in the background. That's kind of what

I mean. I think it was more in the background

all the time. Like it wasn't like the focal point

of the shot. You know what I mean? But it was

still a lot of but I appreciate it. But I heard

a lot of people talking about it and I thought

like I'm going in there like, oh, it's going

to be like everywhere. It's going to be like

in the. ground but it really wasn't like that

there was only like maybe two times where you

know they really were trying to bring your attention

to it but for some people maybe you didn't need

to do much to do that so I was kind of looking

for it so it's like where's Waldo but you know

Interesting. Yeah, so I do look forward to checking

it out. I do want to see it But uh, I know I

haven't it's been getting harder and harder to

go to the movies So I got a pick and choose pick

and choose and I was gonna go to drive in again

Like we went to see Jason Bourne, but it wasn't

showing there. So But one thing I did see, and

I won't go in depth, or one thing I did read,

I should say, since I was kind of sick and kind

of just laying in bed for a little bit, I took

some time to read some comics, because what makes

you feel better. And I read a bunch of stuff,

but one thing I didn't want to touch base on,

I did, I talked about rebirth last episode. So

I figured only, you know, equal time to talk

about Marvel's big event and with Civil War 2.

I caught up on a number of the issues, some of

the side issues overall. I don't know, Greg,

have you read any of Civil War 2 yet? Yeah, I've

actually read quite a bit. It's actually one

of the more favorite things that I've read that's

by Brian Michael Bendis, but I have not read

the ending yet, so. Yeah. Well, they just added

another issue to it, so. Oh, have they? Yeah,

well, there's going to be a delay because the

artist just had a child, so he's getting harder

for him to get out of the book, but then they

added another issue. Who is the artist? Is that

Oliver Copiel? It's not Jimmy Chung, because

I think Jim Chung is on the new clone saga thing

going on. I think it's Oliver Copiel. I really

like his artwork. Yeah, I will say like the artwork,

like man, it is beautiful. Like it's one of the

best looking books that I've seen. Like it's

just like next level. It's David Marquez is the

artist. OK, yeah, not familiar with him, but

his artwork is really nice. Oliver copel did

the zero issue. So Okay. Yeah, I love his stuff.

I actually have a interior that he did. Yeah,

there were some other stuff He did he did all

do x -men Fantastic for invincible Iron Man Seeing

if there's anything else of note some ultimate

comics, but yeah, I feel like I like said I'm

not super familiar with his work, but his work

in this is phenomenal and the basic premise of

it is that you know, the inhumans because they

are everything about Marvel have a new inhuman

who has the ability to basically see the future

or debatably see the future or predict bad things

from happening and a part of the Marvel universe

wants to use that ability to kind of stop crime,

stop things from before happening when part of

other people like Tony Stark don't want to do

that. It's kind of like Minority Report. Exactly.

Exactly. It's basically my donor report. So you

have Tony Stark on one end and you have Captain

Marvel, Carol Danvers on the other end and so

what's interesting I find is like I think what

there are four issues in and it's a book that

is it is brown michael bendis and then there's

it is very much him in the sense of it's a lot

of talking and not a lot of action but it ended

up actually kind of enjoying it but the action

will go through in one or two panels huge panels

exactly but actually kind of i i kind of like

what they're doing i like the civil war story

in the civil war book uh there are some Big things

that happen and like there's a depth of certain

characters and what that leads to I do think

there are a great deal of Contrivances that are

used to make it work like someone dies in order

for the info because that and then you kind of

find out why that Happened there's like a lot

of things that like well that doesn't really

make sense, but I don't want to give it anything

in likes I know Chuck you haven't read any of

it, but I do I do overall like the debate that's

going on I like how it isn't necessarily just

rushing into the action and it's and they're

very much aware of The previous civil war it's

brought up a few times for the like they like

they don't want to do that again They don't want

to have go for have heroes fighting heroes again

So they're more reluctant and it's more more

of a political debate in a way and which sounds

kind of boring But it actually ends up working

and there there is action in it and I think the

next issue issue five probably is going to be

the the climate or not the climax but more of

an more of that eight page splash page of just

pure action as you we get with Brian Michael

Bendis so I was overall satisfied with it I do

think it's I went in with super low expectations

and I do think though Nearly all the side issues

I've read so far have been rather disappointing.

I think I read the one that was like solely on

Ulysses and who's the human character and that

wasn't very good. I read the X -Men, the first

issue of the X -Men tie -in. That was just, that

was just stupid. at the end of it was just Storm

fighting a cloud. Had a flashback to Fantastic

Four 2. It was not good. But one of the better

minis, I actually read most of it so far, was

the Spider -Man one. Because it's the Spider

-Man Civil War. And what it is, like, how Spider

-Man right now is basically Tony Stark. And Ulysses

comes there and he sees that one of the workers

was once a super villain. And he goes there and

he says, oh, he's going to become a super villain

again. So... Peter Parker tries to do all the

stuff to stop that happening, but then it happens,

then it kind of leads him in the direction that

he was trying to avoid. So it's a lot of that,

like, you know, are you creating the destiny

that you're trying to stop by doing these different

actions? And it's, you know, that fun little

time travel, philosophical debate that you can

get in. And it's very small scale in the Spider

-Man issue, which I think is kind of refreshing.

So I did enjoy that. But I think it's good like

I think it's something you definitely great wait

for in trade though I did get disappointed in

knowing that Marvel is gonna do all new number

ones again in November with I guess it's I Don't

know like everything is getting relaunched. I

don't know if that's true, but Some of them are

so it's there. The new thing is like Marvel now

divided we stand or something like that Like

whatever just just make it comics But I mean

like I gotta say that like DC's kicking our butt

when it comes to quality comics right now They're

cheaper and they're all like No gimmicks. It's

just really good comic book writing So I'm hoping

Marvel kind of gets away from this and you know

seeing that DC's like rocking the sales lately

I think they had like nine of the top ten selling

books in July, which is like not happened in

years so Hopefully, but I don't know over. I

don't know Greg if you want if you what your

opinions, or if anything else you wanted to mention

regarding Civil War 2 Yeah, I'm not as big of

a fan as the talking as you are apparently Brian

Brian Michael Bendis would get along really well

with Kevin Smith But yeah, I think it's once

again, it's a interesting concept how he's going

about it it's nothing new like we said it's a

kind of philip k dick with uh minority report

But it's interesting in how characters are acting

to that and interacting is interesting. I would

recommend for you, Dan, did you try the Kingpin

Civil War tie in? I've only read like the first

issue or something, but the first issue was really

good. And I've been meaning to buy the other

ones, but I didn't get around to it. But the

first one was really good. It gives you a different

kind of perspective on the Kingpin. Have that

one, but I have not read it now. I'll definitely

read that one. It was really good I haven't I

did read the the x -men Tie -in and that's just

kind of I don't know flopping around in the breeze

not doing much There's nothing really been going

on too exciting in the world of x -men, but uh

so yeah so far Bendis is doing alright with this

one. I just feel like it's gonna come to not

very successful conclusion. It's just going to

fall short of everything else that's been kind

of riding high, which is usually what happens

with him, I feel. So I have to check that out.

But which which issue are they on? Are they on

like four or something? They're on four right

now. And I think the next one's going to be either

five or six is going to be delayed. But there's

going to be eight issues. Yeah, they spread these

things. It's way too far out like they need to

go through them a little bit faster I think and

it's weird because then like you have comics

that come out that take place after the events

of a comic That's not even out yet. Yeah, and

that's very confusing. Yeah, so that's that yeah

They could stop doing that. That'd be amazing.

So All right. Well anything else you guys want

talked about before we take a quick break All

righty. Well, we're gonna take a quick break

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we are having a super loser draft. What does

that mean? Well, we will be drafting characters

from the world of comic books and trying to create

the biggest Group of losers, I guess. What we're

thinking is the lamest, the dorkiest, the plain,

stupid characters that grace the pages of comics

one time or another. And what we'll be doing

is at keycast .com putting up a poll and you

can vote to see what team is actually the worst.

Usually you're voting for the best team. In this

case, it's the worst team. And which one it would

make perhaps just the most generic and... just

god -awful comics ever made, so it should be

fun. And maybe, you know, sometimes lame characters

make great comics. It has potential. Well, Greg,

why don't we just start with you and then go

Chuck and then go myself. Greg, you're up first.

You have to choose a lame character, a super

loser, who you're going with for your first choice.

Since I am a big X -Men fan, I am going to go

with a recent X -Men character. I am going with...

Gold balls Nice nice nice nice gold balls. Yes

gold balls. Have you heard of them? I am not

familiar with that character. Okay, Dan. Are

you familiar? Yeah, you just actually started

you just showed up in spiderman. Oh, okay cool

so a parent it's like essentially his like when

he gets bounced into or like Just kind of he

could kind of release them. I guess he gets gold

shiny balls that kind of bounce From him and

bounces all over the place like crazy. So it's

like carrying around a giant sack of Superballs

and then just throwing them at people essentially

Sounds kinky. Yeah, it kind of is Yeah, and he's

just like slowly looking dude, too. Yeah He's

he's a little portly Going with Gold Balls. Good

way to start, you know, go with the character

with one of the lamest names. When in doubt,

when in doubt. Alright Chuck, we have Gold Balls

off the board. Unfortunately, I know you really

wanted him. So, who are you going with with your

first choice? My first choice is actually a character

I wasn't entirely familiar with, even though

it was created around a time where I started

to get... Into comics like that era. I was from

like right around like the late 80s early 90s

This is a DC character and his name is arm fall

-off boy Actually have him on my list, but nice

I have him on the list too, and it sounds like

someone that the Hulk named But basically this

dude could rip off his own arm and beat people

with it Nice uses arms as a melee weapon. So

I thought that was a Extremely disturbing and

lame at the same time. So He's my first choice

That's like when you're given an assignment.

It's like, okay You need to come up with a superhero

character in an hour. It's like, oh that was

today Uh, he could rip off his own arms. Is that,

does that work? All right. I think you'd want

to rip off other people's and beat them with

it, not your own. That's just degrading. It's

like, uh, the, one of the actually good parts

of X -Men three, where you have, uh, Wolverine,

like chopping the arms off of that one guy. And

then, yeah. So he kicks them in the nuts. Let's

see you grow those back. So there you go. Nice.

Well, from our first choice, you know, if you're

looking for lame characters, A good time period

to go to is actually the 1990s, as much as we

love the 90s. They had some fads that made no

sense and made some licensed characters that

were doomed to start from the beginning, especially

when that license is with the NFL. For my first

choice, I'm going with NFL Super Pro because

that was a character that actually existed. So

legitimately, an actual star that becomes a superhero

because that often happens. You know, that's

actually what Tim Tebow's career. Now, I bet

you he's out fighting crime. So if they ever

make a movie, he'd be the perfect person to cast

of NFL's to grow. Well, the worst part about

it was that the logo was plastered everywhere.

Yeah. It was like NFL, like everywhere you looked,

NFL, NFL. OK, we get it. Football's starting

to get pretty big now. Years later, it finds

out he was actually just really on PEDs. That

was the thing. It was Bo Jackson after his injury.

He was really pissed off. Oh, Greg, sorry. Did

I steal that one from you? It was on the potential

list. I kind of had a little plan that I was

going, so that kind of throws that up, but whatever.

Yeah, I had to go with it. He kind of stole it

from me. I actually considered drafting him first.

See see yeah, I was I just though it was the

first thing that came to mind and I was thinking

of lame superhero characters because it's like

that was the thing that existed so All right,

Greg moving back to you. I saw one character

from you now you potential steal one from me

Who are you going with you choice around to well

since since my cool little plan? I had my head

is gone. I'm going to go with asbestos lady See

that one I'm not even aware of yeah, I forget

if she was DC I think she was DC but she had

like a flame retardant suit made out of asbestos

which as we all know is not the best thing to

cover your body in at this point because it causes

a whole bunch of cancer and stuff and she apparently

Has passed away in the comic book world and they

didn't really disclose the reasons it was like

some undisclosed illness, I believe. She actually

died from cancer because of the asbestos. No,

I'm being serious. That's what it was. Oh, really?

Oh, you found a spot where it actually did say

that? Yeah. Oh, OK. And she it was Marvel because

she used to fight the original Human Torch back

in the day. Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty

pathetic. He create a suit and it ends up taking

you out. Man, I guess it's like it's like opposite

Iron Man. It's like, you know She you know, she

was a asbestos lady. She grew up into mesothelioma

woman Which is terrible I apologize to anybody

that you know, but yeah, that's a lame ass character

All right, Chuck, moving on over to you. What's

your what's next? What's next on your list? We're

not doing a list. What are you choosing for your

number two draft choice or two draft choice?

Let's see, I'm going to go with. I'm going to

go with a character that everybody knows and

it's actually pretty popular probably, but for

whatever reason, I've never liked this character

and I always thought she was incredibly lame.

Oh, I know who you're picking. She's actually

from the x -men universe. I know who you're picking

And that is dazzler. Oh, I was off by a little

bit I was thinking jubilee. I was also thinking

jubilee One decade too too late, you know, right?

Yeah dazzlers the 80s pretty much but I feel

like dazzlers even more useless than jubilee

because at least It's like Jubilee's little firework

things have some concussive force, but Dazzler's

powers, she can turn sound energy into light,

bright, flashy lights. So I'm like, yeah, that's

useful. You know, she might be able to blind

somebody once in a while, but I don't know. I

just never really cared for that character and

I thought she was really lame. So she's the second

member of my lame ass team. Yeah, like she is

not that's what happens when you build a character.

That's so very much of a specific time period

It's like yeah, this will last This this disco

fad that thing that's here to stay so let's make

a character that's designed off of just that

so so for my first choice I went with something

for the 1990s. I'm actually gonna stay for the

1990s and Everything in the 90s was extreme as

we know and then there was actually a character

called Extreme, you know, that was pretty much

the extent of his character. So that's where

I'm going with before my second choice His power

set was kind of the 90s power set which was whatever

you needed to be at the time He had just random

spikes and Ridiculous locally looking facial

hair He looked almost like a hipster before came

and a backwards hat occasionally because that's

how you knew he was a rebel It's very much like

dazzler. He instead of being very much of the

70s. He was very much of the night He kind of

embodied everything wrong with that time period

at one point people actually thought he might

be the lost third summers brother But obviously

that did not happen because he's since been forgotten

and probably for the better. So For my second

choice, I'm going with extreme. Yeah, I can't

figure out how some of these characters were

forgotten. I know I'm waiting for a new superhero

character to be come out. That's called on fleek

and that's We need to get rid of that word as

fast as possible. Yeah, yeah. By people already

saying it, that's a good way to stop it from

happening. Once the old people start saying it,

it's no longer useful. Right. I can see there

being a female character called Bay. I'll buy

every issue and set them on fire. That would

be, you know, and then the fire just rejects

it. It's like, no, I can't. It's not even, I'm

not good for this. This is non -combustible material.

Yeah. All right, Greg, moving back over to you.

You had so far, I don't know, so lame, I've already

forgotten. I've had Gold Balls and Asbestos Lady.

There you go. Who are you going with next? I

can only imagine. I am going with Bouncing Boy.

I like where your head's at. I like where your

head's at. It would have been so much cooler

if I actually got a NFL Super Pro in there. I

was going for a ball theme. I never would have

guessed that with you. It's gonna be awesome.

I stole your ball dream. I apologize. So who

was bouncing, boy? He was a DC superhero, I believe.

And he just kind of, he was also a portly little

fellow, and he just kind of formed his body into

a ball and bounced around. There you go. He came

to get down, so get up and jump around. Like,

wouldn't coming up with that superpower not think

of... Don't you're gonna run out of ideas for

having to use this person? Eventually just running

into a bald is not gonna help you. Yes using

the legion of superheroes All right, all right

Greg Chuck moving on over to you who do you have

next on your list? Next on my list I have this

is this is a character neither from DC nor Marvel

but it's someone we all remember from our childhood

and That is Captain Planet Oh Man so lame like

freaking Everybody all the characters at the

time, you know, we're fighting these big baddies,

you know apocalypse stuff going on and onslaught

and all these fierce characters and DC had their

crisis and stuff like that and You know, and

then you have Captain Planet fighting like littering

and stuff Which is a great message, but it's

just incredibly terrible Yeah, yeah when like

the thing that can kill you is pollution, and

there's a lot of that. That's yeah The silver

lining however is the Don Cheadle version of

Captain Planet. Have you ever seen that? Yeah

Are you shooting the laser beams out of his crotch?

Starts turning everybody into trees So something

good did come out out of it. So at least that's

indeed Nice nice. So I'm sticking with my 90s

theme and the 90s they had a lot of questionable

decisions and I'm actually going with a character

but a specific version of a character if I can

cheat and Sometimes decisions are made and you're

wondering How did that get greenlit and how do

they think that was gonna work? Many people comic

fans are well aware of this, but some people

ain't may not be in 1990s Marvel thought let's

just make count. Let's just make Frank Castle

black and Just because of us. I think I have

that whole run. Yeah Just through a medical procedure,

I guess the opposite of what happened to Michael

Jackson and yeah, that was That was a mistake

on many different levels, just trying to make,

completely change the race of a character, literally

in the sense of through a medical procedure.

So that was not a good choice. That's when they

had a... Guest writer Nicolas Cage after you

did the movie face -off Exactly exactly. We look

exactly alike. No, you don't you don't at all.

That's not how faces work That's not how faces

work. That's not how any of this works So I'm

gonna go with the mistakenly black punisher when

that was not that you know It just 19 it just

was not a well thought out idea and it was quickly

kind of Rewrited and now he's not that anymore

never really brought up. It's something no one

ever talks about. And at least in the comic world.

So there you go. That's my number third choice.

Should we get it back over to you, Greg? We have

two more rounds. We're on round four. I know

I killed your ball theme, but you know. I'll

still kind of go with it with my next choice.

He's actually a DC super villain, but he's not

really that super. He's kind of just a... The

Olympics were recently and he would just kind

of win gold in everything But Superman could

also do that way better than him and I am talking

about sports master The king of all sports. He's

just really good at sports Yeah, I actually never

even heard of that character until I was watching

Teen Titans or not Teen Titans, but Young Justice

on Netflix. I'm like, this is actually a real

kid He's just gonna have a hockey mask. I'm like,

all right. Well, they actually made decent use

of him in that show They actually do make decent

use of him, but he's still pretty lame. He's

kind of a glorified Casey Jones He is yes. Just

like a better fighter. Yes Yeah, yeah, it's just

you can make it different you can change his

name like why you gotta go like Sports master

that's It doesn't even sound like a villain name

when you think about it It sounds but more like

a hero name, but what are you gonna do? Yeah?

All right truck moving back over to you who's

next on your list Next on my list going back

over to DC. I'm gonna pick another Legion of

superheroes member and some of these are pretty

pathetic but this one i think is one of the ones

especially with his name i think one of the ones

that takes the cake and that is matter eater

lad he was on my list he was definitely on my

list yes this guy has the ability he can consume

or eat anything an unlimited amount of matter

chuck you took way too long to explain what his

superpower is it's in his name There's a little

bit of science behind it. Okay, he's got special

digestive enzymes Okay, that can break down any

form of matter whether it be solid liquid gas

Or anything like that. It's I don't even know

where to start like and the Kicker is he can

eat those pieces of matter at super speed This

is the guy you want to take with you to the eating

contest and you know all that stuff the chinese

buffet Maybe even have a little fun. I don't

know It seems like incredibly useless power and

a terrible name like at least come up with a

better name than that like yeah Matter eating

lad like that's And just going with matter. That's

what all right. So I don't know what DC was thinking

with like a lot of their characters They put

lad after it and I'm like, yeah, I don't know

why we're doing that. Like we're not you know

We're not all in Ireland here. Like not everybody's

a lad. I'm up with the names They have like aqua

lad and all these other ones, oh my gosh yeah

yeah it's I know I don't know like that was that

was like a small period of time where lad was

something that was actually used and considered

and made sense so yeah all right well Moving

on over to me. I'm gonna go also in the world

of DC and I similar to to Chuck It's a character

that is you had dazzle a pretty popular character

in a sense has a following well known I would

say I guess this one is somewhat the same way,

but maybe not Not in the sense of leanness because

they're so dedicated to a specific time period

but leanness in the sense of again just a bad

name like that's you legitimately when your name

is your power it just seems kind of stupid it's

like uh let's make him a flying man or you know

what his arms grow really long let's call him

elongated man Again, you have there's so many

people who stretched. I know that's one of those

powers You have mr. Fantastic plastic man. Oh,

I mean plastic man. It could also fit here but

I'm going with elongated man just because You

can't take a name person with that name. Seriously.

It's just not because their jokes are just right

there for you and you're like Can't not acknowledge

that joke. It's right there. You're elongated

man and your ability is you stretch body parts

and So it immediately piques the lady's interest

when they hear his name, I guess. True. Maybe

maybe I'm the idiot. And like, he's actually

got something. You know, he's actually a genius.

It's like that. Yeah. Like that scene in, you

know, the Fantastic Four movie where the girl

asks them, so can you extend any part of your

body? Yeah, he actually I was I was actually

considering doing a plastic man because to me,

I felt he was a little bit more lame only because

he was like He's kind of like he's kind of like

Jar Jar Binks with like Deadpool's motormouth.

And it's just so annoying. Oh, my gosh. It cannot

stay in plastic, man. Every time he's like, I'm

reading some of my old Justice League comics

and stuff like he's so annoying. I wish he wasn't

there. Like anybody Photoshop him out of every

single one of these panels like. Nice. All right.

Well This is the last round last five Greg your

last choice. Who are you rounding up your team

with? I'm gonna book end it Dan. I started with

an x -man character I'm gonna end it with an

x -men character and I'm going to end it with

the most Insignificant why do you even need this

character? I am going with cipher from the new

units essentially Rosetta Stone software More

advanced. Diaz, you could get him for a couple

hundred bucks. Yeah. He'd be useful to, you know,

high school French students. Yes, he would have

been very helpful to me. I mean, like, his entire,

you know, existence was kind of... useless once

like Tony Stark in mr. Fantastic created the

Translator that this does it automatically. So

it's like yeah, you we don't really need you

anymore. So but Very good. So you're going with

cipher. Yeah Also, not the most creative name

in the world. So what you gonna do? All right

Chuck moving on over to you. Who is your last

choice? my last choice is Someone from another

a branch of a popular team. It's not specifically

that team but it's a offshoot of it and we're

talking about the Avengers and there was a bunch

of different offshoots, but One of the like weirdest

ones they did was the Great Lakes Avengers Yes,

which is coming back this in November. Oh fabulous

And then I thought, you know, probably the lamest

character on that team in my mind was Big Bertha

Um, and she basically, you look at her, she's

sort of just the female version of the blob.

Um, but she can like, she can increase her mass

and like with that sort of her strength goes

up and her invulnerability and all that stuff.

But like the weirdest part is like she comes

back down to like, like normal size woman by

doing this thing called power puking. And she

just like. expels all of her like body mass body

fat whatever in like one foul swoop and it's

just like really foul swoop it's like really

like that's what you came up with i don't know

just terrible yeah yeah that's one of those things

where it's like this will be great and it's like

no that that doesn't really work at all All right,

big birth. I was wondering I had her as a possibility,

but I'm not that familiar with Great Lakes Avengers

I know there's a lot of people who love it. So

I figured maybe she's a better character Some

of them, you know, I read the Black Punisher

issues. I know that existed So, you know, I did

not read the NFL Super Pro I did I do own them

though because it was just one of the things

as well. I'm like, well, this is stupid I'm gonna

buy it It's it's i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna

when everyone throws out their issues of nfl

super pro mine will still be worth two cents

Yes, I i've read i'll get it signed by no one

in particular Yeah, by anyone from the nfl maybe

roger gaddell would sign it. I don't know. Yeah,

of course. He'd probably fine you for having

it We'll go back and sue marvel for using their

license it's like this this was something You

can't find me, Gadiel. I bought this while TagliBoo

was in office. Nobody knows what we're talking

about right now. I know I don't. All right. Well,

I have the last choice, and it's tough because

there's a lot of different places I want to go,

a lot of different ideas I have of who I can

choose. You know, again, pardon me, do I go with

a lame character? I'm going to go with this one,

even though There was a period in time where

this character did kind of get redeemed and was

kind of cool. Overall, though, he's just kind

of lame and similar to what you said with Plastic

Man. Every time I read him, I just wish he wasn't

there. It just doesn't work. And I think he was

also maybe a Great League Avenger at one time.

I'm not sure. I think he wasn't on the Avengers.

He was at least on New Warriors. And that's Speedball.

Oh, yeah. You mean Penance? I think you mean

Penance. Yeah, like when he was Penance, that

was actually kind of badass, you know? I'm like

wow that was actually kind of cool and like I

like the direction the character went and it

was actually kind of twisted and dark in a good

way but you know he's just like he exists to

be really annoying and You know he's type of

the character where other superheroes just don't

want to be around and yeah He just I haven't

actually read him in comics in a very long time

So I don't know if there's any chance you'll

be coming back soon, but he did come back into

the speedball personality I believe Yeah, I do

remember that but sounds like somebody that's

really into cocaine Exactly you named your character

after uh, you know a specific drug that makes

you kind of super energetic and this guy's power

is Somewhat speed. I don't remember what his

power was. It's something with connect connect

energy. I balls Yeah, yeah, but you know his

Pettis character was twisted and it was that

was when Thunderbolts was quite good But then

now it's awful. So But yeah, I'm gonna go with

speedball for my last choice just because again

also an awful looking costume He just looks ridiculous.

Yes Yeah from his hair to his colors to everything.

So he is my last choice All right. Well, let's

just run through the lame superhero characters

that we chose. Greg, I know I screwed up your

ball theme, but who do you have on your lame

superhero team? I know. If it was going to be

the ball theme, the ball theme I had going on,

it was going to be Gold Balls, Bouncing Boy,

Sportsmaster, and NFL Super Pro. I had like four

of them. That was awesome. But anyway, I have

gold balls. I I don't have gold balls, but I

have gold balls asbestos lady bouncing boy sports

master and cipher Nice nice Chuck. What is your

team? My team is consisting of Dazzler arm fall

-off boy arm fall -off go boom Matter Eater Lad,

Captain Planet, and Big Bertha. Nice. There's

a team. Big Bertha will eat the guy's arms that

takes them off. I feel like there's a conflict

of interest between Big Bertha and Captain Planet.

I feel like they would just butt heads immediately.

Their philosophies are totally different. But

then they eventually fall in love, which is,

you know, the ironic thing. I wonder if Matter

Eater led could eat Big Bertha. There's see,

that's that's a eating contest that needs to

exist in a comic sometime. There is a crossover

that needs to happen today. All right. My team

is exactly. My team is NFL Super Pro extreme

black punisher, elongated man and speedball.

So that is the way I wear sounds like the 80s

like a speedball Extreme and like all that kind

of stuff. Yeah, wasn't extreme the 90s though.

Wasn't that the big thing in the 90s? Maybe when

the X game started and like, you know, everything

was extreme There's a lot of random characters

Yeah, I had a couple like honorable mentions

like ones that I seriously considered picking

was like like night thrasher Yeah, yeah, every

time I see like night thrasher comic, but I'm

flipping through the box. I just keep going It

makes me think of the one skit on SNL where I

think there was a character called night thrasher

and in like Someone's like you do realize like

a serial killer named himself that and like he

has this existential crisis over knowing that

His name has been used before by a serial killer.

I also like speaking of 90s, too I'm like almost

anything 90s image in the sense of like young

bloods and yes, you know anything rob leefield,

but I Some of those characters. I don't they're

just so forgettable that you know, they don't

really even stand out but yeah that was that

was a weird time in comics uh all right well

we like named cyber too that was in the wolverine

stories that was oh yeah he with the adamantium

arms and stuff yeah yeah oh there's so many x

-force characters like kane who was just like

there was yeah i thought you were gonna say strong

guy too when you were talking about the i was

like strong guy he's got a dumb name but you

know yeah he's a good character Actually has

somewhat of a personality like that. Yeah, you

could speak of But we like to hear what you thought

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this week. We'll be back next week. Same time,

same channel, same podcast feed. But for now,

this has been Chuck. This has been Greg or gold

ball. And this has been Dan and we've been. extreme

talking in circles. We'll see you next week.

We didn't want to steal your thunder.