Transformers Animated Nature Calls and Megatron Rising

Hey, it's David Kaye, voice of Beast Wars Megatron

and TFA Optimus. You're listening to the Geek

Cast Radio Network. My name is Optimus Prime

and this episode of Transformation Animation

Podcast features Stephen C. Phillips, Mike Blanchard,

and Michael Wilson. Did you just put the microphone

to your ass? What was that? Alright, I'm going

on mute, so you can begin. Welcome to episode

5 of Transformation Animation Podcast. I am one

of your hosts, D .F. Joe and Mike, and joining

me is Steve Megatron. Hello. Hello, hello, hello.

And Pecan Court Michael. Hello. Hey, how's it

going? It's going. Good. Yes, we are here with

episode 5. Steve, what have you been up to? Working

on just random voice crap at this point and playing

Diablo 2 to kill time. Cool Michael what's going

on in the house of Wilson? Not a whole lot I

actually found a sergeant cup I was very excited

about that because I didn't think I was gonna

find any of the You know the last of the generations

line, but I did find him and I was kind of happy

about that I also got my transformer collectors

Club sideburn in the mail and That was exciting.

Yeah, cuz he's you know, he's kind of like a

blue repaint of Classics Rodimus. Rodimus. Yeah,

he looks really cool. I always like these figures

because they they don't skimp on the paint job,

unlike Hasbro. Yeah, there's a lot of, you know,

little flourishes on him, just really, really

sharp. And I was seeing a bunch of pictures on

like Flickr and another side of Twitpeck and

things like that of people posting pictures of

him. And I was like. Where's mine? Yeah Everybody

is like, oh my god the teeth the the TCC has

his sent stuff out When are they gonna show up?

Oh my god This person has it but this person

doesn't this person got theirs, but that person

didn't get theirs yet and it's like oh my like

I I don't know if it's love for the character

of sideburn or if it's just that they wanted

a blue rotimus. I just don't get it it's like

it's kinda like you dipped him in the blue lagoon

or something like that and it's like holy crap

this figure is oh you know holy grail for people

and it's like what the fuck yeah now this is

an homage to a robots in disguise character and

you never watch robots in disguise I mean if

you don't watch robots in the skies, you're not

gonna catch the homage They actually did do a

red repaint of this character And called it,

you know Super Sideburn. I think that's his actual

name Super Sideburn looked a lot like Rodimus

Prime and it was a big homage to G1 Prime or

G1 Rodimus Prime Yeah, but no, I understand that

it's an homage to the character from our ID and

all this and all that but it's like It guys it's

just a blue Rodimus with a different paint scheme

on the head But but it's like everybody's like

like scrambling like grabby hands. Give me give

me give me give me give me It's like I think

yeah, I think it's basically like this guy got

it. Why didn't I get it and You're literally

at the mercy of the postal system Yeah, let's

not get into a great debate about that. Yeah,

so I think it was last episode that we had the

Is it episode four episode three where they were

in the construct the oh no, it was let's fuck

I don't remember When they were in the abandoned

plant the meltdown episode Okay On Dinobot Island

the abandoned research facility or whatever else

where yeah, it was last episode The way I explained

the fact that the toilet has a keyhole is because

that every single thing In or around the Detroit

area in the last 50 years in this universe Was

happened or built because some Dak reverse engineered

Megatron's technology. So it's Cybertronian technology

One of our friends and fans on Twitter Salem

blood she was gonna call in a voicemail But at

the time the voicemail line was kaput it is back

up now 502 -526 -5821 But she made a response

to why she thinks that the toilet had a keyhole.

She says, first of all, consider where this particular

toilet is. Fan Zone said it's in an abandoned

research facility and Meltdown would most likely

be working in the biological department of the

labs. therein. In some cases, research scientists

would be collecting urine and feces from the

test subjects, so would need to lock the toilet's

ability to flush so the test subject does not

accidentally lose the needed research material.

After such a toilet is then unlocked to dispose

of any waste not needed for testing in normal

use. Um, holy crap. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I, I, I...

Salem, I'm sorry, that is... just so off the

wall i cannot believe it. It's genius! That is

brilliant! It's so true, I can't imagine why

I didn't think of that. Well, it's kinda true,

but again, as I said in episode four, it more

so goes to the fact that it's a cyberturning

in toilet, it's not even a real, it's not, you

know, it's not a toilet, you can get it bed,

bath, and beyond. I wouldn't call it a Cybertronian

toilet because it's not big enough for, you know,

Optimus Prime to have his ass on. I've got my

own theories about what that is. The reason why

I say it's a Cybertronian toilet is because it's

a piece of Cybertron tech and the only key that

fits that thing is Sari's key. So that's, I don't

know. Steve, what are your theories? Are you

sure you want to hear my theories? Might as well.

We've already gone down the hole this episode

already, so. Well, one reason is, well, maybe

it's used to, you know, you got to take grabs,

use the key, you flush. Sorry, it goes down the

hole. Down the hole. Sorry, you go down the hole.

But the other one is to remove. shitty episodes

from the lineup because you know they literally

hit the can uh we don't see professor princess

for a while so maybe that's where she went but

uh uh the other thing is well you know that's

that's their uh their thought process for some

of the episodes prior and coming from uh this

episode on They get their ideas from the crapper

I do my best thinking on the they turn the key

and Out comes some crap Jiggle the handle. Let's

see what comes out Yeah, it's all I got though

All right, so we're gonna get into some episodes

Wow, this has been a trainwreck of an intro eight

minutes and 23 seconds of pure gold Gold digging

for gold in the crapper up. Yeah Just so awful,

oh I'm not even sitting down Okay, we just have

to go back to town and get prime and ratchet

they'll know how to fix proud and the best part

we finally get out of this stupid nature but

won't prowl follow us and spread space barnacles

all over detroit it's not fair why do you have

to be so right all the time all right let's get

this show on the road what road the low road

the low road the low road best episode in beast

wars the low bitch slap you all right shut up

Shut up shut up First up today is nature calls

prowl is frustrated by humans plowing snow and

the fact that neither bumblebee nor sari seem

to care Optimus Prime discovers a non -sentient

Cybertorian energy signal and Sari, Prowl, and

Bumblebee set off to investigate. Sari attempts

to teach Bumblebee the fine rustic art of camping,

but he is not the least bit interested in roughing

it. Their semi -peaceful vacation is soon disrupted

when they have run in with a parasitic space

barnacles that have apparently taken over the

Cybertronian body of their thought to have been

deceased enemy Megatron and end up taking over

Prowl and Bumblebee. Sara uses hot water to destroy

the space barnacles. Her art of art friends are

rescued, but Azig Sumdak finds the body and takes

it back to his lab to rebuild it. Now, it is

never, and again, these synopsises that I have

are from wikipedia .org, it is never actually

said in the episode that the space barnacle thing,

monster thing, was Megatron's body. They kind

of come close at the end at hinting because...

Well, you have to you have to take a big leap

because first of all, you've got this Basically,

it's a it's a robot covered in barnacles as a

monster with spike hands or pickaxe hands and

then at the end Some deck finds a big pile of

something with a decepticon logo on it So it's

like well, is that Megatron's body? I mean at

this point it could possibly be lug nuts body

or blitzwing's body because they were blown up

and Starscream found them, but we never really

found out what happened to their bodies Well,

it couldn't be lug nut because it was gray with

a purple Decepticon say symbol on it. So Right.

Well, it's not actually until the next episode

where he says look what I found and pulls the

sheet off it Hey, yeah. Yeah, that's you. He

says how was that? Yeah Did you guys see the

the actual real? Human spark plug in the very

beginning. Yes. Yeah, that was great Yeah, I

like the the g1 Construction worker outfit. I

mean that that's that's iconic and I dig it that

they this is like the second maybe the third

time they've brought that back now But I also

liked the the mining robots in the mine with

with the spark plug Because they're Oh construct

a kind green and purple. Yep and my first thought

was oh my god is it gonna be constructicons that

see that's the thing i hadn't seen this episode

in so long since my very first watch through

of the series that's what i thought too and then

i realized oh wait that doesn't happen until

much later in the series as far as the constructicons

um at least the constructicons looked like construction

equipment whereas these just look like boxes

with pickaxes on the end yeah um guess there's

a first time for everything this is the first

time and they probably only time I can sympathize

with bumblebee and I am so not a fan of camping

I just Every time I ever went camping as a kid

it always turned into a nightmare just because

I Solved that problem by not going camping exactly

Well, when your parents, you know, as kids, when

your parents sign you up for summer camp, you

kind of have to. Oh, you know. Yeah. Never happened

to me. I went camping once. I think I was I think

I was 21 the first time I went camping. And,

you know, I didn't bring sunscreen and didn't

I just didn't know how to camp. And I ended up

with like second and third degree burns from

sitting out at the beach. Yeah. it was really

really bad and you know i'm pale skinned anyway

it just didn't turn out very well for me uh you

must learn to survive without the aid of machines

you never know when you won't have them this

is such a scary thought in this day and age no

seriously think about this in a world where machines

are no longer existent you are alone It's seriously

this is almost a discussion point for a geek

cast radio episode because if you really think

about this it is that line is so true because

We have computers. We have iPads. We have iPhones.

We have iPods. We have blackberries we have You

know other touchpad stuff right the internet,

you know Where would we be right now if we didn't

have any of this stuff? Yeah, no the decline

of civilization will start when the power ends

Stone Age Exactly when they shut down the power

grid and we no longer have refrigeration entertainment

Well modern entertainment, let's say, you know,

we can no longer drive our cars or fly our planes,

but we can still exactly That's what all we can

do we can can down the street and pray that You

know road warrior ask bikers. Don't drive up

and slaughter us Yeah I love how sorry wants

to get in on the action Facing the barnacle monster

by making a fucking snowball Because there's

that action pose of bumblebee prowl and then

two seconds later sorry comes in she's in this

action pose But she's got a snowball in her hand

You do a lot of damage with a snowball if you

aim it, right? Yeah It's like, oh that was I

had ice in it. Oh Snowball that's a slush ball.

There's a big difference. Oh Stop it I Love how

Jeff Bennett does the inflections for prowl when

he's calm and when he's really pissed because

the first part he goes to bubble be do you mind

and But he's like what I didn't do any thing

and then later and then like two seconds later

prowl gets hit by snow and we've seen this sorry

has a snowball in as soon as he says the first

do you mind he turns her like do you mind do

you mind yeah what that was me the giant barnacle

monster over your head why are you looking at

me like that yeah do it And sorry again with

her comedy in this that's right barnacle boy

come get some nice tasty Autobot No, it was easily

amused Well, it's funny because then because

later then she has the line of of You know bath

time kids And I'm just wondering I'm just wondering

if Tara ever uses any kind of voice like that

with her own children Probably I know when she

said that my kids both went Did they it did well

we were all watching it together and she's like

that type kids and you know, it's like Good times

I just don't Understand them why they put this

episode in here is basically the only reason

why it's here is To get across the message of

oh, we need you know It's more of the message

of technology and nature working together. You

know that trans tech type of crap Well, this

is basically a Prowl story Prowl has been bitching

and whining about nature for the last several

episodes And this is finally where it hits home

Secondly, this episode is where they find Megatron's

body That's what I was going to say. There's

only two reasons for this episode to exist. The

nature versus technology thing, and the fact

that they finally found the rest of Megatron's

body. I mean, other than that, this episode is

completely useless, I think. Agreed. Do you have

any notes for it, Steve, for nature calls? I

think the whole barnacle thing's retarded. was

the space barnacles is that some sort of homage

or some sort of like are space barnacles kind

of like rock lords where it's like oh my god

the super homage of this super fandom thing is

that or is it just that oh these are just space

barnacles i don't know what the hell rock lord

is so that's i know what a rock lord is a he

-man thing Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, Rock

Lord. I think they were pulling from the Japanese

tentacle porn of the kiss play. Oh, God. There

were actually tentacles involved here. I know.

And they groped the robots and created new robots

out of rocks. That's right. They became rock

them, sock them robots. I think Bumblebee brought

along some soda and it was grape. It was actually

labeled tentacle grape. Oh, my God, I did not

catch that. I'm kidding. It was not true. Oh,

thank God. Just messing with you. Yeah, don't

don't do that again. Or was it such a thing as

a tentacle grape soda, though you can get it

on Japanese websites and eBay for forty nine

ninety five. That's ridiculous. I don't know

how much it costs. Yeah, you can get it by the

case. It tastes like grape or the leader. It's

very purple. Anything else for nature calls,

Steve? I pretty much agree with you other than

Megatron's, you know lifeless shell being in

this episode and Trying to show the balance and

needing, you know machines and you know all that

crap It's yeah, it's pretty useless episode other

than that But I do like how they did show Spark

plug. Yeah, that was pretty cool What about you

Michael, what do you got for nature calls? Oh,

I was just gonna say spark plug being eaten by

tentacles, but yeah, that was the last we saw

a spark plug I like the the irony of Prowl's

fixation on nature Yeah, and how it's it's like

he's the whole time. He's like You have to get

away from machines and he is a machine Yeah,

Bumblebee so much as points that out. He's like

you do realize that you're a machine, too But

we don't only points that out, but we try to

use it to his advantage to get his media player

going. I thought that was hilarious. Yeah. And

then he crushes his media player. See, I think

toward the end of this episode, it tried dipping

into like a horror story, like the zombies. The

real horror here is losing your DVD player. To

me, that's just really scary. I don't think I'd

want to be in that situation. No more movies

Well, it starts off, you know, you got bumblebee

and sorry playing the video games and You'd think

that in the future they'd have huge screens But

no, they've got this little tiny little 14 inch

screen on top of an Xbox or something Just goes

to show you that our technology still superior

than the future Well, the other thing about that

since you bring that up Michael about them not

having a huge TV You gotta think sorry is what

eight nine year old little girl yes her father

has all this money and all this technology at

his plant, but It would look kind of weird the

Autobots going to some deck tower and having

you know bulkhead or bumblebee or anybody carry

away You know like a 70 inch flat panel TV If

you look at another Wyatt You know related show

at Teen Titans when you go to the tea the t -shaped

tower I forget what they call like Teen Titans

tower or something. Yeah Yeah, the Titans Titan

Tower When you go in there, what's the first

thing you see? Robin and Beast Boy doing every

episode they're playing video games on this,

you know a 50 foot long screen Yeah, so yeah,

I mean I'm thinking if I was 40 foot tall wouldn't

I want a 50 foot Get a wide television. I mean

they could use it for other things rather than

just playing video games But still that would

be that would be the first on my to -do list

You know, it's like cleaning up the floor. No

cleaning up the the you know, the surrounding

area No, fixing the windows. No getting a giant

TV is my priority here That in one of your blog

posts Back this up with experience. That's true

Like I like when sorry it's like camping trip

She's all excited. She's never been camping Not

once it's like you realize you're gonna be out

there even without giant barnacle monsters Camping

is a fight for your life. You know you are it's

it's easy to Stand your ground against nature

when you live in a house when you've got food

in the fridge and there's you know the hot and

cold running water you go out there in the forest

and You're no longer top of the food chain. No

It's just like yeah, so I can kind of understand

bumblebee want to take all the stuff with it,

but I think it's funny because he brings too

much stuff. And I was like, where did you even

fit all of that place you don't want to know

about? I'd rather not talk about it. Yeah, it

brings a new meaning to the term junk in the

trunk. Because he puts it in his ass. He says,

it's in my ass. Sit on it and rotate. Exactly

is like don't take my DVD player. Why not? You

don't want to know where it's been I'll make

it so you never want that bastard you ever again.

I know I just stuck it out of your back so I

can watch TV. Don't touch it. It's been in my

exhaust port And that's what I was talking about,

not just at the plant, but even out in the woods.

Again, Bumblebee points out to Prowl, you are

a machine and he tries using him again as a projector.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. But, you know, who goes

camping in the winter in Detroit? It's got to

be cold. Yeah, that's a little weird. And you

know it's cold because there's snow on the ground.

Well. That's true, but. let's not forget why

they were out there in the first place to find

this the signal but still i wish they would have

made it more about finding the signal rather

than oh hey camping trip yay why not go camping

while you're out there in the middle of nowhere

in the middle of winter you know and they want

to go camping and they get out there and what

do they find space herpes brought by megatron

Completely coding Megatron so Yeah, space barnacles

that are mutated by dark energon See how I'm

pulling this all together here. Yeah Yeah, well,

it's not really No, I saw it. I saw it. He'll

show you his energon cave Speaking of the cave,

and Bumblebee's genius of locking them in there

with Space Barnacle Prowl, that cave actually

will come back later because that's the same,

well, yeah. We'll see that location again. We

do? Alright, I forget exactly where the cave

could be. I'll remember later. Yeah, you'll remember

later. Yeah. Anything else on major goals? Yeah.

Yeah Yeah, speaking of that cave, that's what

really shocked me is that The solution here is

for them to go back to the mine where the scary

monster lives Because you know, they don't know

that the scary monster hasn't come back yet Yeah,

almost like let's all split up and wander out

into the dark and wait for the killer to catch

us And It was professor plum in the in the lab

in in the cave with an energon herpy energon

herpy Yeah, but now I like the whole zombie out

thing the the zombie the the zombie take prowl

gets zombified first and Then he he takes a swing

at bumblebee and he's like too slow, but he's

not he actually zombifies him Zombie bumblebee

I just I like this idea I mean, they're not really

dead. They're not really zombies, you know, but

they're they have the arms up. They're like,

oh, you know, they're they're more like rage

virus. Victims, I guess would be the word. Yeah,

like hybrids, hybrid. I like hybrid, hybrid hate

playgers. Hi. Hi. Yeah, that that, too. I like

when he says, why is water coming out of the

fire hose? I had to go. Well, he gets the fire

hose and he's like, all right, watch out. It

shoots water and he's like, why isn't there fire

coming out of the fire hose? Oh, right. Well,

it all leads back to, you know, things being

improperly labeled. You know, if you're in a

grocery store and you see a jar that says baby

food. Clearly, it's a jar of food made out of

babies, right? Well, it's like it's fat free.

It comes with fat for free. OK, keep going. We're

a very imaginative bunch of Americans. Exactly.

I got a whole bottle of applesauce here. It says

apple right on the front. I have a whole bottle

of baby food here. It has a baby right on the

front. OK, stop. Just back to the episode. All

right, so they can't get fire to come out of

the fire hose, but they do get it to produce

steam. And they do this. How do they do this?

Sorry, swings her key at the fireplace. Now,

we just got off a discussion on why is there

a keyhole in a toilet, but there's no keyhole

in the mine. No, it is there. It doesn't work,

though. It is there. When she first goes into

the room and she goes over to that control panel,

a keyhole does show up, but it won't work. Because

the mine systems are shut down and then she sees

the fireplace She goes over to the fireplace

and why that there's there There's a hot coil

in the fireplace or oven or whatever. It's supposed

to be Yeah, you know, she starts striking her

key against the hot coil kind of like, you know

striking a match to You know, right at the end

of the camping episode. She finally learns how

to make fire. Yeah She makes fire that in turn

makes steam and the steam kills the barnacles

and They're all like it's a sauna in here Yeah,

but yeah at the very end behold the monster was

actually Megatron's body and It was brought back

to life with with the nasty zombie space barnacles

So I mean it all comes together at the end and

it makes perfect sense But the the main goal

of the episode was to get Megatron's body back

without having to you know resort to dystronium

or stealing a body from Soundwave or something

yeah all good plans but you know getting your

original body back is probably the best plan

of all yes and there will be much more tentacles

when that happens those are so creepy we'll talk

about that in the next episode so are we done

with nature calls yeah that covers it All right,

we are moving on I am ready to serve as your

ever faithful second -in -command Our star scream

how fitting to have you by my side As I finally

take my revenge on the one responsible for my

50 stellar cycles of helplessness and humiliation

Does anyone else have a problem with my leadership?

No, fine. Never! Now where was I, huh? After

them! And finally up today is the Megatron Rising

two -parter. In the first part we have Starscream,

Blitzwing, and Lugnut begin their attack upon

Earth. Optimus Prime demands that Sari hand over

her key to the Autobots. She refuses, and Ratchet

uses his magnets to forcefully take it from her.

This causes her to run away, only for her to

end up captured by Black Arachnia. Optimus begins

to doubt his leadership while Megatron begins

his next stage to have his body rebuilt and orders

Lugnut and Blitzwing to steal the key from the

Autobots. They succeed in doing this. Starscream,

when scanning Lugnut, learns that at last Megatron

is really alive. After thinking a little, he

decides to join up with his former leader until

the next good opportunity to get rid of Megatron

presents itself. So Starscream arrives to the

Sundak Tower. where Megatron's head is placed

and is trying to convince him of his loyalty,

but he doesn't suspect that Megatron already

knows about his treachery. At the end of the

episode, Optimus watches in horror as Megatron

rises into the sky, his body having been fully

rebuilt by Isaac Sumdak and the key. Well, these

infernal setbacks never end. Megatron's head

is just about to lose it I am running out of

patience with you. I'm gonna bite your fucking

head off and it was just uh It was just funny

that you know, he completely just freaks out

on some deck at the at the last second, you know

I like Starscream's line Because lug nut keeps

saying oh, no, it's Megatron Megatron's in my

elbow. Sorry like Megatron. Did you just say

Megatron? Did he just say Megatron? There is

no Megatron Megatron is offline terminated. I

did it myself. I saw it myself I got the impression

that he was uh, I Don't want to say backpedaling,

but you know the fact that he doesn't really

want to admit that He killed Megatron. He doesn't

want to say I did it myself because then you

know lug nuts probably gonna execute it right

there on the spot Yeah So bumblebee is getting

tons of character development But watch they'll

take it away soon enough This this two -parter

I so found Bumblebee to be much more appealing

than the entire rest of the season. Is that just

because you feel sorry for him that he gets his

ass handed to him by Starscream? No, it's just...

He's not being a dick. Optimus Prime is the one

that's being a dick in this episode. I mean,

Bumblebee's pointing out to him, you know, they

are just maintenance bots and this, that, and

the other thing. And even though Optimus has

had the elite guard training and all this and

all that, he's not making good decisions throughout

this entire episode. I don't know if anyone else

will pick up on this, and I'm sure that people

will get the reference when they hear the quotes

that I put in the episode, but I love Prime's

line of, it appears the Decepticons are mobilizing

for a full -scale assault. And silence, because

neither one of you guys get it. In the beginning,

in the beginning of Transformers the movie, Ironhide,

we don't have enough energon cubes to power a

full scale assault. Yeah. Okay. And when David

K's Optimus says this line about the Decepticons

mobilizing for a full scale assault, it sounds

similar to what Optimus said in G1, is the whole

point. I'm not sure if I buy that. You can listen

to it in the episode later. Starscream finds

Megatron and he can't mask joyous emotions at

all. What is it that Megatron says? I can see

the joy in your face. I see the delight written

all over your face. Lugnut is a Wayne's World

groupie. Master, I am not worthy. I am not worthy

You know, it's funny cuz you you brought that

up the Wayne's world reference and I didn't get

it Just it went right over my head. So I'm kind

of glad that you spelled it out for me there

It makes much more sense now Oh, you're someone

on Twitter when I made the teaser about lug nut

and what yeah Yeah, right over my head. I did

not catch that at all. Sorry. Some deck feels

sorry for himself, but hello, he's seen an Autobot

symbol before and he saw the Decepticon symbol

on Megatron's old body. How dumb are you, dude?

The giant Decepticon symbol on Soundwave that

you didn't notice that. I know. Well, he is a

scientist. He doesn't actually pay attention

to things. I would have much rather have had

Beekman in place of Sumback in this instance.

I love this show. With the giant rat. Oh, that

was a great show. And and at the end optimus

is like no it can't be uh -oh New Megatron Steve

what did you have for the the first part of the

episode? when the first part I like the cybernetic

Megatron image Yeah That's just that's so reminiscent

of beast machines. It's not even funny Though

it's a damaged one. It's a damaged model those

which is even better because It shows that Oh

mighty Megatron even in cybernetic state is still

fucked up He's you're talking about when the

key overtakes him, right? Yes Yeah, he's talking

about when blue lines. Yeah. Yes Okay, I do like

like this royally screwed up looking body though

and missing the head and arms and Although that

does rule when I saw it though. I thought that

was more of an homage to The 1986 movie when

when Megatron gets reformatted in the Galvatron

I could see that too, but at the same time it's

almost It's kind of more both No, yeah, no, I

mean I I agree I just saw it as a really cool

image and of course it's it's more so I would

almost have to agree with Michael because it's

more so recharging him and yes it is reformatting

him into a new body but just that image of his

head still in its same position but it's getting

recharged is cool put back together and as it

was happening There was that classic G1 transformation

sound. Yup. I like that. I like the shot of his

eyeball. His left eye, when it starts, the pieces

start coming over his eyeball and you can actually

see the eyeball being rebuilt, not the eyeball

itself, but the eyelid, the area around the eyeball.

The osculature around the eye reformats and he

looks pissed. Yeah. It's just like I have an

eye and this is my angry eye I'm gonna put the

eye on you Yeah, but that was just that was an

epic scene. Oh, yeah was what else you got for

part one Steve? I love the final reveal of his

new body Yeah first side of the roof When he's

got his new helicopter mode, and he's so that's

in part two or his robot mode. I mean Yeah, you

only barely see the robot mode in part one. You

see it up in the sky You don't really see a close

-up of it, but you obviously know it's Megatron

I like that so much better than his Cybertronian

form Yeah, the Cybertronian form was okay. I

don't really care to move yes This looks badass

No, it does look badass. I do like I almost wish

animated would have come slightly before the

movie and then the movie would have copied animated

because I like the Cybertronian Megatron head

and animated way better than any of the Megatron

head designs in the movies Yeah, I mean, you

know my take on the movie Megatrons. I don't

like any of them Yeah, I don't either No, I actually

I think the one on the third movie is a little

more forgiving because he looks Well, first of

all, he's a Mack truck and he kind of looks like

he could transform into a Mack truck But when

you look at this face, it's still that crumpled

tin foil Yeah, he's doesn't look right yeah,

that's me I also like the the line Starscream

says Who does who interrupts my speech which

is like who disrupts my coronation? Yeah, you

interrupted my speech And see I I knew this and

again For for right now Kevin You're either gonna

have to stop the show or you're gonna have to

fast forward because I am gonna be putting in

spoilers right now So I'm telling you right now,

dude Stop listening. Don't spoil it when well,

no, I'm not gonna spoil too much, but what? This

whole thing of Starscream coming back, Megatron

getting his body and all this and all that, and

I'll bring it up later, but when Megatron finally

found out who actually betrayed him and Megatron

punches said person, Megatron has a certain artifact

in his hand when he punches that person. And

that's how that person got his... No, that's

not how he got his power. Yes, that is. Anyway.

Anyway, we can't go any further. His forehead

doesn't... Anyway. That's not how he got his

power, I don't think. Alright, Steve, anything

else from part one? I believe he stabbed his

own forehead, thank you very much, but... That's

besides the fact uh, no, that's all I got Michael

part Yeah, starting off with how prime manages

to piss everybody off yeah, I mean he's just

he's just Not very nice anybody here Optimus

Prime in this entire two -parter up until the

very end is even more douche. He has more douchebaggeriness

to him than Rodimus ever did in G1. Douchebaggery.

Well, you know, I understand he's stressed out.

He's under a lot of pressure here. And couple

that with the fact that he just finds out that

Prowl and Bulkhead lied. About the Dinobots.

Yeah, he had no idea the Dinobots were even still

around and he's like, oh my god This is all on

top of my head. I'm gonna be a giant dick here.

Yeah, or a dying dick as I was about to say,

sorry Speaking dyslexically So everyone's pissed

off everybody goes their separate ways some sometimes

against orders and who shows up but black arachnia

So now we have two girls commiserating over being

let down by optimus prime It's like yeah that

optimus sure is a dick, you know, he left me

behind and now I look ugly. Look at me. Oh ugly

you know, sorry is pissed off because optimus

prime took her key away and honestly Eight -year

-old girls should not be carrying around Cybertronian

artifacts, especially not the way she's been

using it for the last does not episodes But you

know would it hurt so bad to give Black Arachnia

her robot body back. Is it such an awful thing

to actually just take her to the AllSpark and

have the AllSpark heal her? Because you know

the AllSpark could heal her if it was in its,

you know, finished state. It probably could,

but they've specifically said before that without

her organic half, her robot body can't survive.

It's she because that sh - that she is a direct

homage to Beast Wars. It's kind of like, oh,

hey, we're on this strange planet with all these

energon deposits. We need to create beast forms

or some alternate form to protect our, you know,

protect our robot bodies. It's the same thing

here because she has two halves to herself. One

can't survive without the other. See, I don't

know if I can buy that because even Beast Machines

Megatron was able to rid himself of his Organic

half eventually True destroy himself first Well,

yeah that too, but you know We've already seen

that the key can revive dead Cybertronians or

dead Autobots, you know in the case of optimus

yeah in the original movie, but Why why couldn't

the the source of the key right? Why couldn't

the all spark? Remove her organic half which

may kill her but then revive her right back again.

I mean it I believe it could work I just don't

see the point in you know, or I have an idea

use proto forms and take her spark and move it

You know, it's funny too because this is a series

where they actually Well, they actually bring

up that that that exact subject. It's much later

with jazz and yokatron spoilers But yeah, you

can do that. You can take someone's spark out

and put it in a protoform. You know, they don't

have any protoforms handy while they're stranded

on Earth. But, you know, they do have the most

powerful Cybertronian artifact in the known universe.

I don't know. I think we just had an episode,

the camping episode, you know, about how bad

it sucks to be part robot and part organic. You're

a zombie or space barnacle, you know. Yeah. I

mean, granted, Black Correcting is not a zombie.

But still, you know, she's she's just grievously

unhappy with her life. And honestly, if she could

be cured, she might maybe possibly end up going

to the good side. And isn't that worth, you know,

giving her a little little face time with the

AllSpark? I think it is. She might go to the

light side of Optimus Prime shorts. Oh my god.

Not the skidded side. No, that's where Sentinel

goes. She can't go to the other side because

that's where they keep old Yeller. Oh wow. Where's

my Magnus hammer? Yeah, we're not gonna talk

about Optimus Prime's underpants. What do you

think about Ratchet's arm? You guys both completely

glossed over Ratchet's arm. I shit myself. I

was like... Just tore off his arm! Deleted! I

really wanted him to be in more pain. When he

gripped his arm off, you know, Ratchet kind of

went... You know, and I'm thinking, yeah, that

should hurt. He just tore off your arm! You know,

I mean I I think if my arm got torn off I'd be

in blinding pain up until the point where I bled

out but they're robots I Suppose, you know, I

might I might buy that there their pain receptors

aren't the same as ours. Otherwise, we'd be fucked

Yeah, this will come up later when we get to

part two because I have a note about this and

Kevin will talk about this in his cybertronian

correspondence Yeah But they bring in they bring

in the Dinobots. And, you know, it seems like

they're trying to touch all the bases. I'm trying

to touch on everything they've done in this season

before they wrap it up. And it is going to come

up later in my discussion. But, you know, they

bring in the Dinobots. Hey, the gang's all here.

You know, now we can move on and really round

things out properly. But. Bumblebee and this

is this is classic irony for you Bumblebee shows

up And buys Megatron just enough time to rebuild

himself before Starscream can kill him yeah,

cuz you know Starscream wants to kill just blow

up his head so bad he can taste it and Instead

he gets sidetracked and chases after Bumblebee

Yeah, not knowing that the key is on its way

to completely revive Megatron He thinks he's

got all the time in the world. It's just gonna

you know, do some Bumblebee juggling Which was

awesome So he's gonna do some bumblebee juggling,

you know and Get rid of the little yellow guy

and then head down and off Megatron, you know,

you get a twofer But uh, he doesn't he dicks

around and Megatron has it revived If only Starscream

had tossed bumblebee and Megatron's head as soon

as he entered Yeah It was like it was all it

couldn't have been cued better. He said anybody

could just walk right in and kill you and then

yeah and then boom and walks bumblebee and starts

firing and that's and that's when the whole thing

of you interrupted my speech you know if he had

been less worried about pontificating you know

and more worried about killing off Megatron he

could have just stepped out of the way and you

know the stinger blast would have went right

past him and hit Megatron in the head and that

would have been it problem solved But no he was

more worried about monologuing Game yeah It's

like anyone could come in here and kill you Oh

like this little guy here, you know would have

been easy, but yeah, you dicked around and lost

his opportunity Yep, but that's that's about

what I got All right, so we are gonna move on

to part two of Megatron Rising and now that Megatron's

body is rebuilt, designed to blend in on Earth,

Optimus Prime, Prowl, and Bulkhead battle valiantly

against him only to get brutally beaten. Megatron

destroys Starscream's life spark by Sari's ki,

so punishing him for his betrayal. Meanwhile,

Ratchet reuses Sari rescues, not reuses, rescues.

Sorry. Sarian drives Black Ragnia away. The battle

between Optimus and Megatron leads them back

to the Autobot ship and Megatron gets his hands

on the All Spark. Then, Optimus Prime uses Sari's

key to tackle Megatron, destroys the Allspark,

and causes Megatron some serious damage. Optimus

returns the key to Sari for safekeeping and tells

her that the key is obviously too valuable for

mere Autobots to handle. Soon after, she starts

to wonder where her father is. In the end, it

is revealed that Megatron has kidnapped Isaac

Sumdak for some evil plan. Law it took me about

I don't know the first ten minutes of this episode

to even make a note because my first note lots

and lots of action Yeah That's I mean I I know

this is a two -parter and all that stuff and

it's continuing from the last part and all that

but I mean it's like They just hit you with the

action boom boom boom Megatron's here Megatron

is gonna kick your aft and This that and the

other thing And Megatron really takes it to Optimus.

I mean, he kicks his ass all over the parking

lot. He kicks everybody's ass. Yup. I mean, they

make it pretty clear very early on that Megatron

is stronger than Bulkhead. He's faster than Prowl

and he can fight better than Prime. If Bumblebee

was down there, instead of being manhandled by

Starscream, he would have been first to go. Oh,

yeah. Easily. Give me a piece. How about two?

Now I know this isn't This isn't technically

true, but I thought it was the time of watching

this episode and I made this note So Megatron's

punch of key in your body is actually what made

Starscream immortal nice now. I know that isn't

I think it led up to it or it'll lead up to it,

but I don't know, it was just an observation

I had. It might, I mean as far as I can tell,

anytime the key plugs into a Cybertronian, they

get healed. So if anything, it kept him from

killing Starscream outright. Right, exactly,

yeah. Just a little mini note, Sky Spy again,

yay! Cause I like seeing the G1 Sky Spy satellite,

I always think that's cool. Yeah, when he, I

should say when Ratchet Talks to teletran one

again. I I listen really closely and yeah, it's

it's more Tara strong then it is Tara. It's not

just more Tara strong. It is I pointed that I

proved that to you a couple episodes ago I know

but again, I this time I was really listening

and I'm like, yeah that it's it's less You know

squeaky than what I'm used to hearing from Tara.

So yeah that was the ship flies again so not

even not even the second season the end of the

first season the ship flies yeah that was cool

it doesn't fly very far no but it still flies

kevin will bring this up later in his cyber training

and correspondence but i have to bring it up

as well Why how is sorry biting black arachnia

gonna hurt the damn robot like okay? I get that

she's half organic, but seriously that is metal

She's got a very strong teeth for an eight -year

-old. She drinks lots of milk And eats lots of

apples. Yeah, you know I couldn't understand

is why is black arachnia even in the two -parter?

I mean, basically her purpose in this and the

two parties, I'm sorry. Well, number one, it's

it's to wrap up loose ends because she appeared

earlier in the season. But basically here it's

to give sorry a piggyback ride back to Lake Erie.

I mean, and she doesn't even show up anymore.

Well, for a while, she shows up later, much later.

Yeah. But I mean, it's like, why? Why bother?

Yeah, it's just. It was just kind of aggravated

me. It's like, well, she's sorry. Could have

picked up a bicycle and rode to Lake Erie, you

know, and been like, hey, swing the ship over

here and pick me up. Yeah, it would have served

the same purpose. It just didn't make sense to

have black arachnia there. You know how we have

the poke, right? Well, in this episode, we have

the focal. Punch of kill lug nut. you talk too

much because bulkhead yeah activated the button

before lug nut could activate it himself yeah

that was sheer brilliance right there on his

part which is far smarter than bulkhead usually

is yeah that was just trouncing him up into that

point yeah would you like an axe with that gun

blast megatron I get it because Megatron's blasting

all the other Autobots optimus uses his jetaxe

flies up and just Sticks it right into Megatron

shoulder and Megatron wrenches forward. He's

like That's a lucky shot, you know now This will

come back this next note will come back at the

very end of season 2 when a piece of sorry's

clothing On her arm a piece of her sleeve gets

ripped off her damage No, it's not a spoiler.

I'm just saying the next note because it the

it will continue until the next season at the

very end of the season 2 when she has You know

a paper cut an injury Sorry, we may not make

it out alive. There's something I need to tell

you Yeah This? Yeah, it would have been nice

to fill that in a little better. Yeah But they

fill it in a heck of a lot better from the end

of season two going into season three Well, I

mean here it's like there's something I have

to tell you and it could have been like I'm sorry.

I haven't done right by you in the past. I've

been a horrible father I've let my work overtake

all my time, but I love you What he really wanted

to say was You know, it could have been something

sweet And that's kind of what I expected. I'm

not sure what the writers had in mind when they

first wrote that. Maybe they did say or maybe

they didn't have something in mind more toward

that. There seemed to be a lot in this episode

that was left out. And I want to bring that up

later. But, you know, one of those things could

have been a very heartfelt, meaningful, possibly

goodbye from a father to a daughter. Yeah. Not,

oh, by the way, in another season, we're going

to find out something horrible about you that

I might as well tell you now. You're going to

die. You have cancer. I thought I'd just not

tell you about it. Sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Exactly. Your professor princess is an angry

archer's child. I stole it. I stole it. God,

that's horrible. Forsooth. Stop it. You want

heat I'll give you more than you can handle Oh

slag not again He's not over No, it's They finally

figure out Prowl figures out Blitzwink's personalities

are tied into his at least the ice personality

and the and the heat personality Are tied into

his alt modes the ice personality is the jet

the heat personality is the tank and then the

random personality is just any of it Why they

wouldn't figure this out sooner? I don't know.

They should have figured that out a long time

ago though. You want power, have your fill. Regardless

of how dickish Optimus was in this episode, when

he was fighting Megatron, he has some pretty

cool lines in. Well, I think by the time he actually

fights Megatron, he's kind of... you know redeemed

himself a little bit yeah because i mean basically

he he did call them all undisciplined insubordinate

malfunctions but it's just just kind of kind

of rude but by the end you know he he apologizes

to his team and basically says you know i'm sorry

for being a giant dick yeah or you know dying

dick yeah a tiny one You all fought like Autobots,

what are they gonna fight like cheesy go -bots

from the 80s? I mean Jesus Christ, of course,

they're gonna fight like Autobots God optimists.

You had a really great line. They need to go

and fuck it up with this Well, they could have

been fighting like the Autobot elite guard. That

would have been better. Oh It's funny too cuz

that's what bumblebee says he's like, you know,

there's no auto bar Prime says there's no Autobots

I'd rather be fighting with, and Bumblebee says,

not even Elite Guard? Because I wouldn't mind

having them here right about now. Yeah. You realize

they're going to come in one more episode, but.

True. Four episodes later, Bumblebee himself

will be in the Elite Guard. I'm kidding. Are

we talking about this? Yes. Anyways, it doesn't

happen. I'm kidding. It doesn't happen yet. All

right, Kevin. Yeah. It's Michael's fault, again,

I didn't do it this time. At the very end, are

you comfortable in your chair? Once again, your

ass is in my hand. In appearance, Professor,

our fates are intertwined once more. Your Schwartz

is very small. Steve, what do you have for this

one, for the second part of the Megatron Rising

two -parter? I like the dual wielding sword Megatron.

Yeah. He's just like, I will slice and dice.

He's like Ninja Megatron, man. Those swords are

amazingly cool. I like how it's hollow in the

center. Yeah. What'd you say, Michael? I guess

he didn't say anything. What else you got, Steve?

I was saying I like how the swords are hollow

in the center. It just makes the sword even more

badass. Yeah, I like how Megatron finally gets

a little bit of revenge on Starscream, of course

You know, that's that's always to be awesome.

Oh, yes I Like where Megatron gets blown to hell

after he gets rebuilt big explosion boom Because

if you look at the shot before we see the fact

that he's holding professor some back in his

chair Oh, I mean Megatron's hand If you just

look at his face It's a different angle on his

face. But if you if you like put that next to

The the TF TM shot of Megatron standing up and

all scraggly looking after battling optimus.

It's kind of the same thing Yeah, that was cool.

Mm -hmm Yeah, this makes two giant explosions

that Megatron should never have walked away from

Yeah, exactly and yet somehow He still comes

in ahead He's a Megatron I like Like the kind

of angled arc cave or into the the mountainside

yeah i was gonna just try to make an arc reference

to it yeah it does reference g1 to some degree

the only problem with it though is that it's

like halfway up the freaking mountain it's not

at the base It's not at the base of the mountain

so that that's why I never made the I I get that's

what they were going for but I never wanted to

even bring it up as far as potentially being

in G1 reference because it would for me it would

only have been a G1 reference if it crashed into

the very bottom of the mountain and they You

know had some sort of opening Whereas where it

actually crashes is like halfway up the mountain.

Well, it's not even a mountain It's like the

caldera of the crater. Yeah So it's like, is

the front end sticking out the other side of

the volcano or how does that work? But no, I

think it totally looks very G1. Yeah. Yeah, I

think that's it. I like I like this episode,

though. This episode is definitely I mean, the

whole two part is good, but I like the the overall

theme they were going for with Megatron in this.

Despite the fact that they had to blow them away

again. Yes, Michael, what about you for part

two Megatron's best line Transform and rise up.

Yep Can't believe you guys glossed over that

one. That was I practically cheered when he said

that well, that's also in Mike's commercials

for the yeah Yeah, no, that was great. I totally

dug that The plan here is for the Autobots to

get into the arc, you know, get back into the

ship, right? And lead the Decepticons off planet.

But they don't get that far, they get, you know,

shot down. And they end up on Dinobot Island.

So the question becomes, why didn't the Dinobots

show up here? This would have been the perfect

place for them to Join the fray. I mean, especially

after they made a specific run to down about

island in the last episode to recruit their help

Yeah, and they didn't seem altogether, you know

on board In the last episode, right but they

didn't seem like they were like screw you guys.

We're not helping so it seemed to me like They

were in the script originally or maybe if they

had gotten 10 more minutes to put into the battle

that the Dinobots would have shown up and actually

done something. That would have been nice. It

just made sense to me. And it just didn't make

sense that they'd go through all the effort of

recruiting them in the last episode and then

go to the island in their ship and then not have

them show up. Yeah. The only other thing I really

had was Bumblebee's greatest strength. I'm not

just personality. Yeah. Is that your jet mode?

Or does your pal Lugnut take a dump? Take a dump

on your head. Yeah, the key word here being dump.

What did he say? He said, how do you dump out

some spare parts? Yeah, I heard it as take a

dump and it just made me giggle. But that's all

I had it for this one. I really like this one.

It was really cool I just felt that there was

huge chunks missing Yeah The one thing I don't

particularly like from going from season one

into season two Is how they just kind of like

like the stories there But it's like okay season

one ends and then season two starts with elite

guard But it seems like six months has passed

since since this Megatron rising. It's like Again

the time in the animated universe is completely

fucked up because It seems like too much time

has passed between this episode and the season

two premiere It's like this really isn't a cliffhanger

at all. Like the cliffhanger is really part one

of this episode Yeah, I can see that you know

Megatron appears and okay, we'll see you next

season Yeah, but they go and do part two where

they show this giant battle. They show the all

-spark dispersing or what getting destroyed whatever

And then supposedly Megatron's destroyed and

the cliffhanger is that he's captured Sundak

again. And then, oh hey, see you next season,

kids. It's like, I don't know. Where is the cliffhanger

here? Yeah, there isn't one. Yeah, well, I mean,

there wasn't a whole lot of gap in between season

one and season two. No, and I understand that.

They make you wait six months. Right, and I understand

that, but I'm just saying, like, just the time

frame, it's like, it ends with, you know, the

sum deck thing with him being in Megatron's hand,

and then season two when we get to it, and Kevin,

sorry if we're spoiling anything for you, I'm

not trying to here, but season two when we get

to it, season two opens with, oh hey, There's

a giant ship coming in. Optimus is like, oh,

I know, I know exactly what that is. Let's go.

You know, it's like, it doesn't, it doesn't fully

carry over it. It would have been better if they

found a way to have, you know, Megatron rising,

the first part one be, that's it. Season finale.

That's it. And then use part two to be the season

two premiere. Yeah, that makes sense It's a shame

they didn't do it that way Because that would

have been a nice cliffhanger I mean it again

if they would make you wait six months between

The end of season one the beginning of season

two I could see that but the way it was like

two weeks Yeah, it wasn't like oh tune in You

know five months from now for the to find out

what happens I mean they could have ended it

with you know Megatron getting his new body and

then immediately being a crap out of all the

Autobots and then Boom, you know. Well, what

happens now? How are they going to recover from

that? Yeah. The obvious answer being Starscream.

But, you know, it would have been cool if you

didn't know that for six months. Yeah. I mean,

they used to do stuff like that in peace wars

all the time where like, oh, my God, you know,

Optimus Prime will just died again. And he just

sacrificed himself. How are they going to recover

from this? And the cool thing about Beast Wars

is it took a couple episodes for them to recover

from that. They didn't just bring him back in

the next season. Yeah. So final thoughts on the

two -parter, Steve? Definitely one, two of the

better episodes of the whole season. Michael?

Yeah, again, I really liked Megatron Rising.

I liked that Megatron came back. I liked that

they brought the whole gang in. Not the humans,

per se, but... Really locked down, but everybody

else was in there everyone that they had met

previously Everything, you know, they brought

back black arachnia. They they touched on her

for apparently no reason They brought back the

dino bots. They touched on them briefly for apparently

no reason Yeah And it was it was nice. I really

liked it. I think they could have fleshed out

a little better though. Yeah you know, I'm on

the same way I I think that if If Megatron Rising

part 1 was the season finale and it was just,

you know, just one episode and then have the

other one as the season 2 premiere, it would

have been a hell of a lot better as far as cliffhangers,

but I don't know. I do like it. It is, as Steve

said, it is one of the better ones. So I think

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your Cybertronian correspondent, giving you my

thoughts on episodes 14 through 16. Let's start

with episode 14, which is entitled, Nature Calls,

and it's written by Todd Casey. Camping. Barnacle

Monster. Yeah, not a good start to this episode.

The low point of the episode is when Optimus

Prime praises Sari. for her ingenuity yes because

it is ingenious to stick your key in any freaking

object in your near vicinity Yes, that's ingenuity,

folks. Stick your key in anything and everything.

So that was the low point. I don't know, this

episode I'm not really going to say much about

it because there wasn't much to talk about. I

mean, it's a pretty pointless episode. It has

no relevance, really, to the bigger picture.

It's basically like a one -off episode minus

the ending where Soondak gets the piece of Decepticon...

framework, body, etc. whatever you want to call

it with the Decepticon symbol on it there. So

that was the only relevant part of the episode.

Otherwise it was a Transformers Go Camping episode.

So we've seen the Transformers go trick -or -treating,

celebrate a birthday party, we've seen them cry,

we've seen them take naps, and now we've seen

them go camping. Nature calls, you get a 4 out

of 10. Episode 15 Megatron Rising Part 1 written

by Marsha Griffin First of all the decepticon

interaction between Lugnut and Starscream is

fantastic When Lugnut is actually speaking to

Megatron but Starscream standing in front of

him and Starscream thinks he's talking to him

and he's confused and that was just a whole great

scene That's one of the best scenes I've seen

in a while on this series And then my major problem

with this episode, I generally like this episode,

but my major problem is the Transformers, and

this kind of is weird because I talked about

this in my last correspondence, they finally

realize that Sari shouldn't have the freaking

key. Sari should not have the key. She's a human.

Megatron should be able to take it from her whenever

he darn well pleases. So Sari shouldn't have

the key. And they finally realize that. But the

way they execute this is stupid. It's stupid

that they execute this as, number one, this is

how Megatron is going to get the key because

Sorry doesn't have it. And also the way Prime

does it, he comes across as a complete ass. So

I like the idea that they finally realized that

Sorry doesn't need the key, but the way they

executed this is terrible. And I'm talking about

the writing here. Megatron... If the Decepticons

could get it from Ratchet that easy, they could

have got it from Sari at any point. Come on.

It is stupid that Sari is the holder of the key

and that they entrust a human to hold the key.

So it was a good idea to get it away from her.

It's stupid that then they use that as why Megatron

gets the key and it's because Sari didn't have

it. That's weak. And then Optimus Prime not only

is an ass in this episode, but he also reverts

back into Rodimus Prime mode with all his I'm

not good enough and... going to feel sorry for

myself and self -pity, etc. So that was a weak

point. They should have just named this character

Rodimus Prime and not had Optimus Prime in this

series at all. The episode, though, I don't want

to make it sound like it's a bad episode. The

episode is good. The episode is way more relevant

than Nature Calls. We have Megatron getting his

body back. We have Megatron rising, as the title

suggests. And Megatron's robot mode is awesome.

I only have one slight complaint, and that is

his forehead or his face is kind of weird. too

big of a forehead or something, but overall his

whole form is pretty epic. He's a kick -ass villain.

And then we move right into the second part of

this, which I hate how they always do this, but

cartoons especially always do this where they

have two different writers write a first part

and a second part. I always think that the person

who writes the first part should write the second

part. But now Marty Eisenberg takes over and

writes the second part. The low point of this

episode, and my what the fuck moment, is when

Sari bites Blackarachnia, and apparently a human

biting a piece of metal hurts Blackarachnia so

much that she throws Sari up in the air and Ratchet

grabs her. What the fuck, like I said. And here's

the bad part. The Allspark... gets destroyed

so to speak and Optimus Prime utters the lines

now the key is more powerful than there is this

most powerful artifact in the universe so fuck

now the key is even more powerful than it was

before and then he says it's too important to

be protected by Autobots no Autobots are who

should be protecting it I don't understand the

fact that the human is the one who should be

protecting the key give me a fucking break but

Let's not take away from the epicness of Megatron

Rising, his battle, the multiple battles between

the Autobots and the Decepticons. These two...

The two part of this episode is so relevant compared

to when nature calls and compared to most of

the episodes we talked about last time that I'm

giving this two -parter a seven out of ten. It

could have been done a little bit better, it

could have been even more epic, but we had the

Dinobots, we had Black Ragnar, we had Megatron

getting his body, we had a lot of cool stuff.

So seven out of ten, not bad. I kind of enjoyed

this episode. So I'll send it back to the guys

on Earth and hear their thoughts, final thoughts

on... what I had to say about Nature Calls and

Megatron Rising. We are back here on Earth. Thank

you to the Cybertronian correspondent, Optimus

Solo. Steve, do you have anything to respond

to Kevin on Nature Calls? Agree with him. Michael.

I have to agree with you. I mean, I always agree

with with his verbiage, right? But I kind of

have to agree with his opinion on this one. Yeah.

And I didn't really write anything down because

I I've kind of already said it in the episode

today, but Nature calls I really really sympathized

and agreed with bubble be you don't we need to

just get out of this stupid nature Stupid nature

Anything for part one of Megatron rising Steve

to respond to Kevin I pretty much agree with

everything. He said Michael sigh I agree too.

I know you don't want any spoilers, so I can't

say anything about why Sari is the key master.

Are you the gatekeeper? I was I was hoping that

people would pick up on the Ghostbusters reference.

She's not quite as hot as 1980s Sigourney Weaver,

but. First of all, eight -year -old girl let's

not go there michael cigarney weaver was like

it well in her thirties by the time i know that

i'm not talking about sorry you said she's not

as hot as cigarney back in the eighties sorry

snake your little girl give it a couple seasons

oh god shut up anything on part two of megatron

rising nay so apparently we all agree with you

kevin sadly Like to argue with Kevin I really

do it's like, what do you know? You never even

seen this shit. We talking about but I Almost

want when we do When we do the season one recap

I almost want to bring him on the show and have

the four of us just talk about The entire season.

I almost really want to bring him on the show.

I Don't see why not. I mean for the recap. Let's

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We'll tap you again next week. I Wonder how much

airfare from Cybertron is Can we afford that

in our budget? What we have budget It's you guys

haven't been dipping in a petty cash cuz cuz

I have Do you want to send some of that petty

cash my way damn it? God, I'm having bad bad

bad. Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead flashbacks

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