Legends of the Dark Knight

Sneak Peek, Eggbaby, Zeta, Plague, and April Moon Review

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About this Episode

The hosts discuss five episodes of Batman Beyond, analyzing the tabloid satire in Sneak Peek, Terry McGinnis's high school parenting assignment in Eggbaby, the introduction of the android Zeta, the Cobra-led mercenary threat in Plague, and the cybernetically enhanced gang featured in April Moon. The conversation covers production trivia, animation inconsistencies, and the show's shift toward corporate storylines.

I want a divorce! Hello and welcome to Legends

of the Dark Knight. I'm your host, Steve Megatron

Phillips, and joining me in this adventure into

Gotham City is... Dave, Joe, and Mike. Hello.

Hello. How are you? Good. Good. Recently, we

lost yet another DC animated universe voice.

Bob Hastings, the voice of Commissioner Gordon

from BTIS, passed away. So that's what's kind

of been going on in the world of DCAU. It's kind

of a, I wouldn't say it's necessarily a shock,

but it's just some really sad events. Let's see

what else is going on. We've got this episode,

which is probably going to be one of my more

favorable episodes from season two as far as

what we're covering today. Because there's a

lot of good stuff in these episodes Debatable

I Guess we'll have to start debating So with

that we will come back after this with the first

episode Hello Gotham, I'm Ian Peake and on tonight's

very special inside peak I've got gossip to shock

your socks off But first, this question. Who

is boxing trainer Jack Turley coaching after

hours? Would you believe the champ's girlfriend?

I'd watch out, Jack. She's a knockout in more

ways than one. And then there's rocker Jamie

Gerald. She must know that splicing's against

the law. Yet here she is just a day ago, meeting

with one of the town's most notorious genetic

suppliers. Maybe Hard Rock and Jamie's out to

become the real Dragon Lady of the music biz.

And now for our headline story, the strange case

of Paxton Powers. Remember him? We haven't heard

much from Paxie Boy since he took over Wayne

Powers from his blighted father. Maybe it's because

Pax has been sidetracked by, uh, personal issues?

Looks like he's making up for all that time he

wasted in the boonies. Now watch this. First

up is Sneak Peek. This episode depicts the near

revealing of the secret identities of Batman.

A mysterious man who is completely intangible

is s - Docking Gotham recording secrets wherever

he can find them these secrets are later displayed

on tabloid news show the inside peak by in peak

Terry thinks the show is great until he finds

that his secret will be revealed as well Yep,

I love this episode It's basically their commentary

on Shady shifty journalists Basically, they're

commentary on the tabloids, because that's basically

what the Inside Peek is. It's basically what

we would equate to like Inside Edition or Hard

Copy or something like that. But I just love

this episode. It's so funny and fun. And it's

one of the few times that anyone really ever

comes to finding out as to who Batman is. From

my notes that I wrote down for this one, the

animation and action are all top -notch. I love

Bruce's line. I always knew I'd be found out,

but it's just galling that Peek had to be the

one. You know, my final note was a combination

of many things. Wowser's gang, he's gonna fall

all the way to the Earth's core. Talk about a

bogus journey. So Scooby Doo meets Bill and Ted.

Yay. Oh What did you think of this one? Well,

I think it's funny that The mother Terry's mother

shuts off the TV Mm -hmm telling him that you

wouldn't find it so entertaining if you were

on the receiving end Yeah, which that comes back

around later and she says oh it's alright she

basically contradicts herself Yeah, but she just

thinks it's a show and Batman finds out otherwise

No, but I think it's funny that he can phase

in between things Yeah And somehow plants a camera

on the Batmobile Yeah, I got this episode confused

a little bit because there was the one episode

with ink where she actually blended in with the

Batmobile and and Terry said the car is a little

sluggish tonight and Bruce is like well, that's

because it's like 100 pounds heavier and come

to and I thought that's kind of what what peak

had done But slipping the camera on the batmobile.

That was just amazing Yeah, it's a few ounces

Yeah Yeah, I Love how Ian is all about, you know,

you know exposing people yet when he is exposed

himself He's like you've got to help me. Well,

there's nothing Terry can do once you start falling

to the center of the earth And Terry even asked

Bruce, so what'll happen to him? Oh, he'll fall

until he hits the Earth's core. That's one horrible

way to die. Yeah, that's actually kind of funny.

Bruce is like, eh, whatever. I mean, there's

really nothing he can do anyway, so I mean, you

might as well just let him die. But yeah, it's

funny. Peak is demanding things of Bruce later

on. Yep. Bruce is like, no, no. Overall, the

episode was really, really good. I thought it

was interesting. It wasn't something I expected

them to do, because I know in some of the commentaries

and in some of the special features that they

had said, Bruce Tim and the producers had said

that they, in season two, they wanted to go towards...

Let's do the corporate world and do more like

to do with the high school and that kind of thing

to kind of show you That hey, this is Terry's

show. This isn't Bruce's show So I like how they

did that and This was an episode. I was not expecting

back when it aired. I was like, oh wow But now

I absolutely love it Well, I think it's a welcome

change compared to some of the other episodes

we get I'm not a true fan of all the school isms

I don't know if it's because I hated school or

if it's because I just I don't I don't care for

this this method of storytelling for the school

parts but when it comes to the other like corporate

entities I enjoy it more but I think that's because

it harkens back to BTAS. Right yeah no I understand

that. All right, I guess is there anything else

we want to bring up for the trivia or the Behind

-the -scenes stuff? Well for instance The resulting

explosion for production notes of Ian Peake igniting

a fire was a reused footage from The Superman

animated series world's finest part three Yep

Lot of as usual production inconsistencies the

pan of the Batcave the robin suit insignia is

red and it's supposed to be yellow Freeze his

cold gun is visible in the Batcave even though

it was destroyed by ink and disappearing ink

Which that could easily be retconned with Batman

could have tons of them. Yeah for how many times

he's captured him This episode is another example

of what is sometimes called the ghost paradox

in sci -fi and fantasy. If a person is rendered

completely intangible by scientific means, he

should logically be unable to stand on a floor,

breathe air into his lungs, or speak, yet Peek

is shown doing all of these things. Also, if

such a person ceases to be tangible matter, then

gravity would have no effect on him. If gravity

were the only force acting on Ian, he would not

simply come to rest at the center of the Earth.

Instead, he would accelerate as he approaches

the center and then shoot to the exact opposite

point of the Earth from where he started, only

to be pulled back towards the center and reach

the point from where he started. And this effect

would continue indefinitely, assuming frictional

forces can all underact on him. Which, that's

a big load of sci -fi, but it makes a lot of

sense, so it'd be like a slingshot effect back

and forth. Exactly. Yeah, it'd be hilarious.

He'd be on bungee cords Trivia the character

model of the boxer is the same as clay faces

human disguise and growing pains Hmm the scene

where Terry confesses to being Batman was used

for several TV spots promoting the show on kids

WB Remember those spots I barely remember it

Jimmy Lynn isn't alone in not wanting to face

tax evasion charges and goes to Joker's millions

Even the Joker didn't want to face the IRS I'm

crazy, but face the IRS forget what the actual

line is what this is like To face the bat is

one thing but to face the IRS. No, thank you.

Yeah Yeah, I'm not that crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that's

what it was even I'm not that crazy But yeah,

I mean this I'd say this is one of the more solid

episodes of the Of what we're gonna cover tonight.

Oh, absolutely. So with that we're moving on

Lost him him that's a doll you're talking about

not a life. It's my life if it's lost I'll have

to take family studies again. Have you ever taken

family studies? Poor kid's gonna cry till he

shuts down. It's cries are computer -generated,

aren't they? Yeah. So? That would mean the cries

would have certain quantifiable digital properties.

Then I can set the Batmobile to scan for them,

can't I? Uh -huh. Unless they've already made

an omelet out of him. Oh, hey! Alright, up next

is by far one of my favorite episodes of this

entire series because we all in our... early

educational careers went through what Terry is

going to be going through in this episode because

oh come on now you never had to take care of

a bag of salt or a bag of flour oh no our school

system was too poor only the girls had to do

it that is so sexist well I'm sure the guys did

too but I never had that class wasn't required

Yeah, I remember doing this several times throughout

my school career, but this episode up next is

the egg, baby Which is basically Terry's in family

studies class Terry must take care of a computerized

egg, baby Dropping the Egg Baby means failure

and he soon finds that there is no one else to

take care of it. Unfortunately, this means taking

the Egg Baby with him on missions as Batman,

as he deals with a family of rogues. I love this

episode. This episode is so hilarious, every

single bit of it. It truly shows you just how

getting by Terry is at school. Every time we

see him in Hamilton Hill High School, he is usually

asleep or spacing out or running out of the classroom.

And here, it's so funny because they give these...

I would have loved to have had something like

this instead of a bag of flour or a bag of sugar

to be able to take care of something like this.

This would have been really cool. We see how

each of the core side characters, people like

Nelson, people like Blade, people like Dana,

and Howard, all react to having this egg baby.

In the meantime, Mom Mayhem and her boys are

out to steal a bunch of rubies. I don't know,

what did you think of the villains here? I don't

know, I think it was a funny episode because

of the trauma that he's having to go through

holding this egg baby while being Batman and

it's like winking at him and laughing and crying

and screaming and everything else because it's

all computerized, but I don't particularly care

for this episode. Why I just don't I don't know

I it's something about the whole high school

thing I just I it bothers me it when they focus

too much on it like I don't mind it being there

somewhat and I Think the villains to in this

episode are kind of throwaway Well, they are

I mean they're they're meant to be something

like a penguin Beyond or something where it's

like the criminal of the week, which is fine

But I do like how Bruce does say that he's run

into them before, and they've been around for

a while, so they're establishing characters.

As far as it being too centered on the school,

I mean, the school, it's like, the school basically

bookends the episode. I mean, they get the assignment,

they then go on the assignment, and Terry has

to, because Blade can't be bothered. has to take

care of the thing himself. I can't believe you

don't see the comedy in Terry showing Bruce this

whole thing and asking him for advice on parenting.

I can't believe you don't find that funny. It's

just one of those things. I don't know. I'm still,

you could say, old -fashioned and tainted by

the original series of it. I can't help it. I

don't like the egg baby thing. I think I would

like it more if it was like a more memorable

villain that he's having to deal with. But I

understand the reason they have these bumbling

idiots that are there so it's not as serious

with him holding this baby. I did love the musical

tones when Mom Mayhem clocks Batman. I thought

those were awesome. cringe and laugh at the line

every single time, but when Bruce is telling

Terry that Ma Mayhem has the egg baby without

her knowing she has it, he makes a crack about,

well, you better hurry up and go save it unless

they've made an omelet out of him already. And

Terry's like, oh, hey. I found that hilarious.

overall I I really do dig the egg baby and I

think it's the only time we ever see Batman's

Batman as in Terry McGinnis stick out his tongue

and that's just hilarious that's that I'll give

you yeah Terry with the tongue yes so for some

continuity and production stuff and trivia for

continuity Ms. Pinto calls on names of several

one -episode classmates including Jackie Wallace

from Earth Mover, Adam Stepnick from The Last

Resort, and Corey Cavallari from Centuries of

the Last Cosmos. For production notes, the DVD

features a commentary by Bruce Timm, James Tucker,

Andre Romano, Glenn Markami, and Wilfred Dell.

According to the commentary, this was supposed

to be the most childish episode the writers could

think of. Also stated in the commentary, the

Mayhem family's flying car, Ismael Lefteray,

Chevrolet El Camino. For trivia, from this episode

on, the title screen opening bling billing get

a new font. This episode won an Emmy award. This

was the first episode James Tucker directed and

Kurt Gato was engaged in working on Batman Beyond

Return of the Joker. Bruce Timms said in the

commentary that this is the only episode he worked

on that he allowed his daughter to watch. Oh

wow. Yeah. Bruce's comment about making slippers

from rubies is a reference to the 1939 version

of The Wizard of Oz. And this marks the final

appearance of Blade in the series, so she will

no longer be around. Let's see. You've got Kathleen

Freeman as Ma Mayhem. You've got Mark Rolston

as Carl and Andy Dick as Slim. Yeah, that makes

sense. Overall... Egg Baby, it's got a lot of

comedy in it. I know you don't like it, but for

anyone who has gone through the Family Studies

course, you're gonna love this episode because

it is damn hilarious. So with that, I think we're

gonna move on to the next one. This troubling

question endures as researchers continue to discover

the extent to which human behavior is preordained

by biologic and environmental influences. I don't

know. Has being Batman just given me a suspicious

nature? Yes, but there's still something weird

with Ms. Martel. Zeta going back to school Remind

me never to tick off the phone company last chance

to come home quietly is Zeta. This depicts the

appearance of an assassin droid named Zeta in

Gotham City. People start acting strange around

Hamilton Hill High School, and it's soon discovered

that they were being replaced by a droid with

the capability to mimic other people. Terry becomes

greatly concerned when the droid kidnaps Max,

but it tries to convince Max that it has given

up killing. And it spawned another series. Yes,

this episode was a back door pilot to back door

crossover pilot to these series zade the zeta

project I like this one. It's interesting to

see Max do some different things in it But honestly

if you want to watch something like this Just

go watch the iron giant which came out like two

years before this did it was done Because that's

basically what this episode is. It's a basic.

It's a it's a ripoff of the iron giant Let's

see here Let's see I'm looking for trivia. This

is the fourth out of five episodes from which

Bruce Wayne is absent The others being hidden

agenda the final cut armory and ink willing So

the biology class the influence of genetics versus

that of free will in a person's behavior is paralleled

by Zeta's dilemma It also calls them to the mind

Terry being Bruce Wayne's biological son and

eventually taking up the mantle of Batman what

is really cool about this one is an actor who

I know from That NC is is the voice of Zeta.

No. Joe Spano, the voice of Bennett, was a guest

star on NCIS for a while. He was a recurring

character, especially Agent Tobias Fornell. So

when I went back and I watched this episode,

I'm like, hey, wait, I recognize that. Oh, yeah,

it's that guy. So that was kind of cool. Any

other trivia bits you want to bring up or anything

else you want to say about this one? No, I don't

think so. All right, we will be moving on. You

misjudged me. I don't think so. Enough. Much

as I would relish hunting you, this time I seek

a different prey. Yeah, right. He's telling the

truth. Bennett. He's working for us now bad men

tracking a man named false face False face an

agent for hire who can change identities the

way most people change clothes He's working for

Cobra It's a powerful ultra -secret organization

that uses cutting -edge technology for extortion

and terrorism if we don't pay a ransom of 10

billion credits They've threatened to release

a deadly super virus You're kidding right? I

wish next up is plague Depicting the return of

Stalker, the evil organization Cobra has planned

to unleash a deadly super virus into Gotham City

unless they are paid 10 billion credits in ransom.

In order to carry out their plan, they hire the

mercenary Falseface. Wow, that's an old name.

To smuggle the virus into the city, with nowhere

else to turn to, the NSA enlists the aid of the

Stalker to find and stop Falseface. Now Batman

finds himself in an uneasy alliance with his

enemy. This is not one of my favorite episodes

I mean this is just like they went back to the

80s ripped something out of the GI Joe Cobra

handbook and Are putting a Batman into it when

it's funny because they have false face, which

it's funny that they made him This weirdo and

this shit this show and he was actually like

the two face of the 66 show Yeah, that's true

the one episode he was there So it's actually

funny and it must have been a copyright grab

First of all, it's funny that he molds his face.

It's almost like a clay face effect, despite

the fact that in the 66 show, he would put on

a different face, like somehow make a new mask

of faces or his face could morph somehow, which

always conveniently happened off screen. But

no this I can't remember what this guy looks

like he came from it's like it's almost like

they took the the animation of his face from

like the I want to say like the the Sherlock

Holmes of the 22nd century or something Yeah,

that could be it. There's a bad guy in there

that looks like him so But I don't know it's

it's interesting, but I'm not favorable to stalker

Mean I liked him a little bit better in this

episode that he wasn't hunting Batman, but overall

No I don't know I'm more I'm more okay with this

episode than I was with him in the previous one,

but it's again. It's nothing Yeah, nothing to

sneeze at Yep Other than Carl lonely returning.

Oh, well here here's an interesting bit False

face is voiced by Michelangelo Thompson Coleman.

Yep. Yes No, I know I know what you're meaning

and I'm like, yeah, no, we can't go down the

Huh? What I says I want to go down that rabbit

hole. Yeah Under the bus, um, yeah, so anyways

Yeah, we're gonna move on to the final episode

of the day after this My service said that both

of your legs were No tricks this time They're

gonna kill her now. They're gonna kill her who

who are they gonna kill my wife It's the truth.

Why else do you think I'd be helping those punks?

This her yes April April changed my whole life.

Have you ever met anyone like that? I spent 20

years working day and night to help other people,

but my own life was empty. All I had was my work.

Dr. Corso. Good morning. I'm your new nurse,

April. I thought you might want some breakfast.

Flaky flakes. They're for children, aren't they?

I have a feeling you've never tried them, even

when you were a child yourself. It's that obvious,

huh? Not bad. See what you've been missing? That's

how it started. with a bowl of cereal. It only

took me a couple of weeks to make up my mind

about her. April, could you please clean this?

It was about six months ago that I met Harold.

That's what he called himself back then, not

Bulwin. I'd done a wrist replacement for him,

but he wanted more. You know, Doc, when it comes

to mixing flesh and metal, you're a genius. You

could probably do things other doctors never

even dream of. I'm serious. You could use your

prosthetics to make people stronger, faster,

more dangerous. Are you saying what I think you're

saying? With the right partners, you could get

very rich. not interested i've already got everything

i want everything and finally up today is again

one of my favorite episodes of this series entitled

april moon um it depicts the emergence of a new

gang of outlaws cybernetically enhanced with

weapons powerful enough to take on batman This

is basically this reminds me I don't know why

this reminds me of that old show empty nest Like

the doctor and this reminds me of the doctor

in that as far as his age and all that stuff

But this is your standard, you know old doctor.

He's he's really depressed He meets this young

hot nurse and oh, hey, let's let's get married

and let's do this and let's do that and whatever

else at one point she gets kidnapped by these

new guys this new gang who this doctor is really

good at using robotics and servos and splicing

so they get themselves spliced mechanically um

and apparently the failsafe for this is a voice

activated phrase and we see that it's you know

Terry at one Batman at one point picks up a picture

of April and she's standing by the moon and Terry's

like, oh like that old song April moon and I

Honestly, I'm wondering I'm gonna have to look

up on iTunes if that's actually a real song Like

if they really or if they're just making that

up But so that's what the voice command is and

I like the look of these new guys whip and Chain,

you know chainsaw dude and and basically a metallic

version of the thing I like how they all look.

I think they're all really cool. I like these

guys these Versions of splicing then the animal

splicing that they've done. Yeah, I definitely

agree with you Like the cyborg cybernetic kind

of add -ons, I just I don't care for the animal

part but Think that kind of still draws back

to the original Batman animated series because

either one of us could stay on the animal splicing

then Nope, not really So What did you like about

this one? Well, obviously I like the cybernetics

but um It's I Don't know it's just kind of neat

to see Batman have to fight people that are Almost

as equal in that sense of just overpowering him

and then then to show that he's kind of also

Knowledgeable and things other than what you

would think like it shows that he's a little

bit more seasoned for the fact that He mentions

the April moon thing about the song right but

showing that he's just not some young punk kid

that just doesn't care about stuff. But I also

find it funny that Bruce Wayne actually had something

to do with this guy at one point. Yeah, because

his servo motors are the same ones he used to

use in the old Batsuits. In the older versions

of the Batman Beyond suit that he uses. Which

is really nice and interesting. And yes, it is

an actual song by the UK singer -songwriter Sam

Brown came out in 1990 So I guess according to

Terry's timeline that would be an old song It's

from the original legends, yes They're really

I mean there's a bunch of production inconsistencies

here, but there's I mean it's It's nothing really

worth mentioning. As far as the trivia goes,

the fate of April remains unknown, although the

episode's final scene as well as Bruce's comment

implies that Corso, rather grissomely murderous,

bullwipped during what is to be his ultimate

enhancement surgery. This is the second episode

since The Last Resort in which Batman does not

use any batarangs. Aww, no batarangs? No batarangs.

Boo! No daughter rings for you. Exactly. So we

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weapon. Dammit, Joker, stop confusing me when

I'm trying to transition with stuff. Who? Joker.

It's all his fault. So, after all those episodes,

what are your top five? it it has to be let's

see trying to think which is worse Zeta or plague

I'll go plague Zeta sneak peek April moon then

egg baby I will go probably plague followed by

zeta the egg baby april moon and sneak peak all

righty then yes all righty then Wrong show, moron.

Shut up. Shut up, shut up. I'll send you to my

garbage cow. Right. Again, wrong show. So, anyways,

anything else to add? No, Egg Baby, April Moon,

and Sneak Peek are three of my favorite episodes

of the entire series. Very, very well done. Zeta

and Plague are alright. And I think I'm trying

to remember if next time I will have any favorites.

I'll read them off in the closing and you can

comment then. Oh yes, there's two. Looking at

it here, there's two that I will like. Thank

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So join us next time when we discuss Centuries

of the Last Cosmos Payback Where's Terry Ace

in the Hole and King's Ransom Ace in the Hole

and King's Ransom are another two of my favorites

I automatically know this because I know exactly

what ace in the hole is I think it's the only

time in the entire history of Batman that we've

got a definitive origin for Ace the bad hound

and Well specifically to the DC animated universe

well, I was gonna say and I agree with you I

Don't know I honestly cuz I don't read a lot

of the old Batman comics I don't know if ace

has ever gotten an origin. I know they tried

giving it I mean the the origin for crypto is

easy He was in a hidden pouch in Superman's ship

and came with him. Aw, boo. No, I don't know

if that's actually what happened, but I'm saying

that I've seen some sort of origin for crypto

at some point. Superman was sleeping on his head.

He was his damn pillow. Wow. Okay, yeah. It's

a doggy pillow. I like where's Terry too, though.

Yeah, whereas Terry is good. Because you have

Bruce and Max having to work together. Yep. Which

is hilarious. Yeah, it is. So yeah, I think we

have a couple winners next episode. Yep. And

then the episode after that, we have one big,

actually we have one big winner in two really

cool episodes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yep. episode

35 we head out of the past yep yep yep yep fun

times fun times fun time yes well that is quite

the call so yeah that's episode 36 but anyway

anyways so as always thank you for joining us

so for now I'm Steve Megatron Phillips with Dave,

Joe, and Mike. Saying any mortal words of Batman?

I am vengeance. I am the knight. Mike is not

Batman. Yes, I am. According to this data, most

of you did borderline jobs as parents. Mainly

C's. But Miss Pinto? Yes, Howard. You and Dana

fed yours and rocked it and gave it plenty of

nap time. But a baby needs more than that. Its

mind needs to be stimulated too. And according

to this printout, only one baby was fully stimulated.

The one belonging to Tarion Blade. Congratulations,

Mr. McGinnis. Who knew you turned out to be such

ideal father material? I love you!

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