Legends of the Dark Knight
Girls Night Out, Mad Love, Chemistry, and Beware the Creeper Review

About this Episode
I'll make a deal with you. If we go out on patrol
and Gotham is quiet with no sign of the Joker,
we come back here, have Christmas dinner, and
watch It's a Wonderful Life. You know, I've never
seen that. I could never get past the title.
not vengeance you're not the night you're not
batman don't ever do that again that's an outtake
right there hello and welcome to legends of the
dark night i'm your host steve megatron phillips
and joining me as usual in gotham city is tfg
and mike hello hello how are you good so we gotta
talk about the um The dare man news or the bat
devil news here as well. Oh, we know but we've
talked about it on the pull bag It's if they
want to hear my thoughts about it. They go to
alter I know but I'm not talking about it here.
No, I'm not saying in depth I'm just saying that
Ben Affleck is now going to be Batman and everybody
just needs to calm the hell down And for more
information listen to altered geek or the pull
bag. That's right What else is my going on? I've
been recording UltraGeek. Awesome. Awesome. That's
it. Yep, that's all I'm willing to divulge this
time, so. Okay, well, should we maybe get into
the episodes then? Yes, yes we should. Welcome
to Gotham. So she smoked you? We put up a fight.
And lost. I never thought I'd hear myself saying
this, but where's the bat? We're handling this.
Oh, that's reassuring. Don't let that donut dungard
get to you. We're gonna have this whole thing
sewn up before Batman and Superman get back.
Sure. How hard can it be? Two against one, right?
Right. First up is... Girls Night Out. That's
right. and it's all about the girls of the bat
and super family versus a superman villain and
two of batman's wenches yes live wire escaped
to new gotham and teams up with poise naive and
harley quinn and of course miraculously both
batman and superman are probably chasing the
joker or something uh or Lex Luthor or somebody
else, who knows. Batgirl and Supergirl must step
into their older comrades' shoes and defend the
city. I love how they explain where everyone
is. Like, Nightwing's off doing something, Batman
and Robin are off doing something. And at least
two things are the Batmobile. Yeah, that's true.
That's that's very true by that point. He was
pretty much already taken the bat to the cave
so Yeah, I am I didn't mind this This version
obviously like the original btis Season one batmobile
is is the best one out of this show? Out of the
whole of the animated series, but I honestly
didn't mind this bad I mind some of the other
batmobiles in the future shows And by future
show I'm not making a pun at Batman Beyond at
all because that Batmobile is the baddest thing
anyone ever created. But like, the times the
Batmobile shows up in Justice League and Justice
League Unlimited, it just looks dinky. But this
one here looks pretty cool. Yeah. I'll give it
a pass. I still prefer the original incarnation
of it though. Yeah. See yeah, it's all about
the girls and the girls have to defeat the other
girls and everything else and it all All kind
of goes to hell because because of Harley pretty
much Harley's gonna get her some brains. She
really does she used to have some until the Joker
sucked them all out of her Well, he didn't suck
it out of her. He just kind of you know It's
like when you you stick, you know chopsticks
in a bowl and you just start Stern and Stern
and Stern and Stern and Stern. Yeah, that's kind
of what Joker did to her head. Yeah. But Girls
Night Out, it's a really, really fun episode.
It's very, very cool. It... I love how it ends.
The two of them in bathrobes and towels. I don't
know, it's just kind of funny. It's just strange.
It's... Yeah Any other thoughts before I get
into continuity? Um Overall, it's not not a bad
episode. It's it's probably one of the better
ones with Harley in it and it's or not Harley
Poison Ivy and Harley and yeah, it's it's nice
to see the the female side of things as far as
the heroes are concerned, but Yeah Alright, for
continuity we have, obviously everyone knows,
Batman and Superman discovered each other's identities
in Superman the Animated Series World's Finest.
Barbara and Kara's friendship endures in the
subsequent episode, Unity, of Superman the Animated
Series. Kara mentions that Barbara will be jealous
that Metropolis meteors made Kara their official
Batgirl. In Justice League Comfort and Joy, Martha
Kent tells Clark that the girls are spending
Christmas together on a ski trip. And for some
reason, Barbara does not appear at Superman's
funeral in Metropolis in Justice League episode
hereafter, though Kara, Tim Drake, and Alfred
do. Pegwin makes a snarky comment that Kara is
too young to enter the Iceberg Lounge. Kara officially
turns 21 in Justice League Unlimited's Far From
Home. Barbara was admitted to the lounge in Joker's
Millions, and her hospital file in Batman and
Mr. Freeze's Observer revealed she was 20 at
the time. So that's some interesting continuity
bits. What? Yeah. So, for trivia, Batman slash
Bruce Wayne has appeared in every show in the
DC and Rey universe, but this is the only crossover
episode in which Characters from another show
appear on his When Livewire says and the hits
just keep on coming she is quoting Daniel Caffe
from a few good men Penguins line that's that's
it. Oh you three pixies go is a reference to
the film. It's a wonderful life Nice, I just
couldn't get past the title of what? I wonder
have you ever watched it? Yes, I've seen that
movie. Oh, you're you're so missing this dude.
It's not me giving an opinion of that movie It's
me quoting Bruce The Robin episode where it's
Christmas time Robin's like haven't you ever
watched it's a wonderful life and Bruce is like
I just couldn't get past the title No, I just
I assumed it was something you would say no.
No, I've seen the movie multiple times and yes,
I you hate it uh... for casting you've got nicole
tom as a supergirl cara uh... diane perishing
as poison ivy and one of the reporters it's uncredited
uh... robert castanza was harvey bullock paul
williams is the penguin uh... of course kevin
conroy his batman bruce wayne uh... i i really
enjoyed this episode this is this is a Episode
I could watch more than once every couple of
months. This is an episode if I if I find a good
laugh This is an episode I throw in Any other
thoughts no just it's it's a fun goofy episode
All right, let's move on before this train wreck
goes any further down the tracks I don't mind
saying I really hate these checkups If it weren't
part of the police physical, I wouldn't be here
at all. Oh, come now, Commissioner. What in this
miserable world is more beautiful than a nice
big smile? Naughty, naughty! Jump around like
that and doctor won't give you a lollipop! You
little... Oh, my. This doesn't look good at all.
I'm afraid... everything will have to go! It
was an easy hint, Joker. Sloppy. Predictable.
You're losing your edge. Excuse me, but the teeth
were my idea. So's this! Up next is... Mad Love
This is the essential backstory of Harley Quinn,
the Joker's girlfriend, and based off the comic
book of the same name, Both the episode of the
comic book were written by Paul Dini. Yep Very
very awesome. Yeah, and It begins with Commissioner
Gordon going to a dental appointment only to
find the Joker in his place as his dentist and
Harley ties him to the chair and The Joker's
about to kill the Commissioner and Batman crashes
in So they ruined the Joker's much wanted cavity
search of the commissioner that's where the line
comes from it's this episode what a gasser huh
mr j i give the punch lines around here i love
that line yes but there's there's just Not this
episode specifically, but there are just certain
lines from both Batman and the Joker, not necessarily
talking to each other, but they're such classic
lines. There was one a number of years ago when
I still had a cell phone. My outgoing message
on my cell phone was a line from Batman in one
of the Justice League episodes. Happy? Only call
me if it's important. Not before. What were you
gonna say I was gonna say it's funny because
in this Batman basically Tells the Joker that
he's getting sloppy and predictable you know
and Inferior eating him and of course Harley's,
you know playing backup Mm -hmm So, I mean it's
it's funny to see that It's it bet Batman essentially
got to the Joker Yeah, it kind of depressed him
that he's becoming sloppy and predictable and
he's kind of just depressed Yeah, pretty much
he's like, oh yeah, this will work this no I
remember why I scrapped that plan and in that
final scene Batman's like Batman says What does
he say, you know, you know what the worst part
about it is is she's come closer than you ever
have Yeah, but it goes back anyway to some years
ago With dr. Harleen quinzel a career -oriented
psychiatrist interested in extreme personalities
Which for whatever reason she pretty much chose
the joker And the joker, you know flirted with
her which she thought was great. Obviously Yeah,
and then he said they're you know appealing to
her her softer side Feeding her a load of crap
And then she basically breaks in and helps him
yeah It's it's the the story of girl gone bad.
So I Just find it interesting that they did this
as a comic first and then I mean I knew this
already but I Think it's great that they did
it as a comic first and then introduced it into
the series Yeah, we will most definitely be covering
the comic on the pullback eventually But yeah,
no, it was simply awesome and man this this episode
is just so great this this for me even at this
moment is a tie for first for my favorite between
it's between this and old wounds old wounds wins
out slightly but this is also right up there
uh absolutely amazing amazing episode um it just
is and uh and and the line the line is she almost
had me you know arms legs chain dizzy uh from
the blood rushing to my head i had no way out
other than convincing her to call you i knew
your massive ego would never allow anyone else
the honor quote unquote of killing me though
i have to admit she came a lot closer than you
ever did puddin and that just sends joker into
a just a rage a massive rage oh god i i love
this episode so there really isn't anything to
okay sure you can analyze it and what i find
interesting going back and watching this episode
now is i've seen the dark knight since watching
this beforehand and uh i know you're not gonna
like this but if he was still alive i could so
see heath ledger uh doing the lines about Joker's
father when he was telling the story about his
dad to Harley, I could so see Heath voicing it.
But that's what made me think of it was because
when Hamill did it here, I was like, oh yeah,
hey. That was pretty awesome. All right, what
do we got for continuity bits? I wasn't done
anyway. Oh, you aren't. No, I like the part that
on the news, they reference the fact that the
Joker's body has not been found. And then they,
of course, you know, knowing that he's cheated
death many times before, they make it sound like
it's unlikely that he survived this encounter.
But, you know, Batman pretty much knows he'll
be back. And then Harley's, you know, battered
and broken and. Swearing off the Joker and then.
Kind of falls for him again because she finds
a flower and get well card from the Joker Yeah,
she's just dumb Pretty much, but yeah the continuity
Apparently Joker's fish specific talking that
toxin from the laughing fish doesn't work on
piranhas Which is kind of funny affairs The flower
card at the end indicate the Joker survived,
confirmed by his next chronological appearance
in Injustice for All. Yep, that was the first
Justice League episode he was in. Yep. Harley's
survival of the fall is explained by the toxin
antidote she was injected with by poison ivy
and Harley and ivy, which also increased her
strength and stamina. Harley likewise survived
a much greater fall in Batman Beyond Return of
the Joker. So Harley's pretty much immortal.
Oh, she's not immortal. She's just it's harder
to hurt her She's more of a metahuman kind of
thing now Which is why she's old as dirt later
Yes production notes this story is based on Bruce
Tim and Paul Dini's comic book mad love which
won an Eisner Award for best single story in
1994 The production inconsistencies oh boy the
DVD closed caption of this episode spells Harley's
real name as H a R L E N E for harleen and then
quinzel it's Q U I N Z E L L E Paul Dini has
gone on record to confirm that her name is spelled
H a R L E E N for harleen and then quinzel is
Q U I N Z E L So somebody just didn't know how
to write Yeah, it's well see that's the thing
is Beak yeah, I think the name is spelled that
way because of Arlene Sorkin obviously the last
names don't match but at least the first names
do I Could kind of see that but at the same time
if he wrote it one way and they still couldn't
get it, right? Yeah, that's true. It's like The
flashback is meant to showcase Harley's origins
which took place during or before the continuity
of Batman animated series However, Batman and
Joker are both seen in their revamped appearances
instead Yes, which I could kind of see that but
they should have gone back at least for that
it would have been a nice nod Showing that old
animation. Yeah Yeah, they probably have any
ready because by the time this was going on by
the time new adventures was going on They were
kind of going bam bam bam bam done Well, they
were but the reason why they were doing that
and i've heard bruce tim say this is because
they were doing New adventures of batman superman
and batman that they were doing three shows almost
at once at one point So because they were prepping
at this time. They were probably prepping batman
beyond and just as far as like you know you know
getting the the treatment for it ready uh hardly
swordfish changes sizes between shots apparently
grows and shrinks in water uh when the pool when
batman and the joker standing on the train the
animation shows the train moving under their
feet when they should be moving with the train
i didn't catch that so Yeah, I didn't catch that
either. Trivia. Joker's exit line when leaving
the dentist office. May the floss be with you
is a reference to his voice actor Mark Hamill
being the most famous for his Luke Skywalker.
Oh, yeah. That's so hilarious. Yeah, I'm going
to have so much fun putting this episode of the
podcast together. All these Joker lines. In the
comic, Joker's line as he tossed a grenade into
Gordon's lap was watch those between meal snacks.
The episode is mostly faithful to the comic,
though the latter is more detailed. For instance,
Batman briefly sketches Harley's life story before
her employment at Arkham. She attended Gotham
University on a gymnastics scholarship, planning
to become a pop psychologist. The comic also
showed that Harley seduced at least one of her
professors to improve her grade. She's a whore.
When Gordon walks into the dental office the
name on the door is dr. J. Reco oh Geez, so they
just they just reversed it and it's an anagram
for Joker. That's hilarious Little things that
you don't notice until after the fact oh I know
it yeah when Joker is going through his old papers
one of them oddly enough has the logo of the
fantastic for Yeah, that's funny the death of
a hundred smiles is a play on the ancient exec
Execution method known as the death of a thousand
cuts You know Wouldn't have known that When Joker
first meets Harley he whistles his own theme
song That's pretty awesome. It is The exchange
between Harley and Dr. Leland when she is starting
at Arkham is adapted from a similar scene in
the comic. The original version was reproduced
with Arlene Sorkin voicing Harley as an extra
feature in the video game Batman Arkham Asylum,
also written by Paul Dini. The initial conversation
between Joker and Harley as well as part of her
breaking him out were also reproduced as extra
features on Batman Arkham Asylum. Hmm interesting.
I think I do remember listening to that on there
though Yeah, yeah having played that so while
so long ago. Yes There's in this book the Batman
handbook the ultimate training manual they include
Batman's escape from harley and Joker Reproduced
faithfully by the episode from the comic in a
list of his seven greatest and most memorable
escapes, not only delaying his own death by psychologically
destabilizing Harley, but also making use of
the piranhas to distract Joker, following by
grabbing his belt, extracting a lockpick, and
releasing his chains using only his teeth. Batman
is a badass. Yes, yes he is. This is one of the
only episodes of the series in which blood is
seen. Harley the Joker and Batman are all seen
bleeding from either their mouth or nose and
That was a big deal back then kiddies. Oh Yeah,
we can show blood. That's why Batman Beyond returned
to the Joker. They did something and colored
it purple Well in the edit No in the edit version.
No, the edit version had no blood whatsoever.
It had Are you talking about Batman though, right?
Yeah, Batman returned to the Joker Right, but
are you talking about on Batman or on the Joker
because in the edit version the TV version of
return of the Joker He doesn't get shot. He gets
electrocuted No, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about the the writing on the walls
and stuff. Oh, yeah Yeah, the ha ha ha ha ha
on the camera. Yeah, they colored it all purple
instead of blue red. So yeah You're right, you're
right. In an early scene, Harley casually asked
Joker, why don't you just shoot Batman? This
infuriates the Joker, who shouts at her about
how he wants to kill Batman in an elaborate,
good fashion to prove his sheer comic genius.
And then you mentioned the part of, you know,
the opportunity, you know, that Batman is chained
up. Joker decides to take advantage of it by
pulling out a gun and attempting to just shoot
Batman to be done with it. Which also happened
in the comic and then Batman throws his pun Yeah
Actually another interesting trivia bit that
I noticed it what I don't know if they intentionally
did this or not, but There is a scene in here
where Joker is going through all these plans
and he's essentially ignoring Harley and she
does all this Dress up stuff for him. She's basically
you know, modeling for him and all this scantily
clad lingerie and everything else, she's like,
oh, come on, Puddin, don't you want to rev up
your Harley vroom vroom? They would go back and
do this scene again in Superman the Animated
series with Mr. Mizziez Pidlick and his girlfriend
as well. They did the exact same thing of her
consistently changing costumes and making all
this sexy talk towards him, and he's not paying
attention whatsoever. I just now realize that
they copied themselves, which they... I'm not
saying it's a bad thing, I just find it funny.
Everything leads back to BTIS, people. Yeah.
And then some other lines... Like when Harley
says why don't you just shoot him the Joker says
just shoot him He says no this my sweet the death
of Batman must be nothing less than a masterpiece
And then you know he says the triumph of my sheer
comic genius over his ridiculous masking gadgets
Yes, that's true Yeah, and then You know of course
Harley's doing the you know knock -knock who's
you know pudding say hello to your new improved
Harley Quinn That was like earlier, but um yeah,
that was in the flashback I like when Joker's
going through his plans. He says boring and lame
not funny been done to Riddler They should have
thrown in one where where it's hey steal a cat
stash or two cat woman This episode is just so
awesome it really really is Yeah, this is this
is like a masterpiece episode of the whole New
adventures. Oh, yeah, most definitely Anything
else Nope, so with that we'll be moving on Get
ready, ladies. Any prospects on the horizon,
Susan? Excuse me. Ma 'am, can I get a shot of
you with the fellow that caught the garter? He's
right over there. Up next is chemistry! While
attending Veronica Vreeland's fourth wedding,
Wow, that hoe gets around more than Harley does.
Bruce Wayne is the one to catch the grotter and
is roped into posing for a photograph with the
woman who caught the bouquet, Susan McGuire.
Veronica introduces her as a friend of her new
husband, Michael. As they dance during the reception,
Bruce finds himself taken with Susan. So taken
that in fact he is distracted during that evening's
patrol as Batman and Robin has to save him from
a thug during a routine store robbery. You're
the goddamn Batman. This woman couldn't have
had that much of effect on you. Bruce takes a
leap and calls Susan back after a few weeks.
Bruce proposes to Susan and breaks the news to
his comrades that he has decided to finally give
up being Batman. Say it ain't so, Batman. Say
it ain't so. This episode is so horrible. This
is basically Poison Ivy using plant toxins to
create plant brides. It's so she can marry all
the rich people to her plants and then she can
take over. I know. It's oh god awful bad. Oh
my god. This is right up there with terrible
trio right up there with fire on Olympus right
up there with Oh God what is moon of the wolf?
Oh my god, it's just oh so bad I So for continuity,
I'm sorry, what did you think of this one? Ivy
apparently drowns in the water. That's the best
part Yeah, considering we only have two episodes
after this and then the series is over so this
is her final appearance I believe This is the
fifth time Bruce is tangled with Ivy merely because
he is Bruce Wayne not because she has suspected
him of being Batman Wow, she just hates Bruce
Wayne. Well, yeah because like that guy Yeah,
that's that's that's so true. She's never The
only time she's attacked Batman is when she's
had to like in In pretty poison when he gets
caught by her plants, you know She only attacks
him because she has to she has no interest in
Batman whatsoever Whereas she really you know
wants to get in Bruce Wayne's pants and his wallet
Well, you know you take the opposite of that
the Joker the Joker doesn't give a shit about
Bruce Wayne the Joker doesn't give a crap about
the mask rip the mask off and Reveal Batman.
That's all he cares about. I mean hell he even
said it in return to the Joker No, brucey your
old eyes don't deceive you. I'm back you know,
but it just This episode is so lame I enjoy Eternal
Youth more than this episode, and the only reason
why that episode of a Poison Ivy plot is even
any good is because of the chemistry and comedy
between Alfred and Maggie. God, I gotta say,
Poison Ivy, probably my least favorite character
out of the entire series. And honestly, I'm kind
of surprised considering this guy wrote... The
Stan Berkowitz wrote a good deal. He wrote four
episodes of new adventures. He wrote eight of
Superman the animated series one of them being
this world's finest part three He wrote a lot
of Batman Beyond I Mean he writes good stuff
except for this episode. Yeah, I'm not a fan
of this one I mean, he has a lot of good stuff
in Justice League Justice League unlimited. I
mean, it's oh, yeah, he's done some good stuff
It's just this episode. I just I don't care for
the plot Mean it's it's interesting. I'll give
them that I just I don't care for it. Yeah, no
not at all All right for continuity in Batman
the animated series house and garden poison ivy
was able to merge human DNA with growing plants
to create plant clones of the respective person
since then she seems to have figured out how
to make Plants in human form with a personality
of their own without using someone's DNA The
fact that Zatanna is in attendance at Bruce's
wedding indicates that she has somehow learned
his true identity, though at their last meeting
in the episode Zatanna, she knew Batman only
as her childhood friend, John Smith. Zatanna's
knowledge of Bruce's secret identity is later
confirmed in the Justice League Unlimited episode,
This Little Piggy. This is... Well, you already
mentioned about the poison ivy thing. Alright,
so for production and consistencies... When Bruce
is knocking at Veronica's door, the mansion explodes
and there is a frame from the explosion of Ivy's
greenhouse that comes up only later in this episode.
When the cruiser blows up from inside, the first
explosion features footage of the Batman Beyond
episode, Splicers, specifically the scene where
Carmine's taxidermy studio explodes and splinters
fly about. The design for Ivy's plant henchmen
was reused in the video game Batman Vengeance.
That was the production notes. I'm sorry now
for the inconsistencies. I'm so inconsistent
this tonight on this episode Like Michael is
credited as Michael Vreeland when logically Veronica
would have adopted his last name not the other
way around Bruce Locke is erroneously credited
as Bruce Gilbert for trivia last appearance of
Nightwing Batgirl and Veronica Vreeland on the
new Batman Adventures This and Sins of the Father
are the only episodes of new Batman Adventures
to feature all four members of the Bat Team,
not including Alfred, in the same place at the
same time, though Nightwing appears out of costume
in both occasions. Elements of the instrumental
score, the promise from the feature film Batman
Mask of the Phantasm, can be heard when Bruce
announces his intention to give up being Batman.
Linda Hamilton later played another femme fatale,
Dr. Stephanie Lake, in Batman Beyond's Meltdown,
only this time she began a fake relationship
with Mr. Freeze rather than Batman. The guest
list at Bruce's wedding includes Leslie Tompkins,
Dr. Joan Leland, Kirk Langstrom, and his wife
Francine. Why? Why would they be at his wedding?
Man, bat, and female man? Oh, God. What the fuck?
Summer Gleason, Jack Ryder, Zatanna, Jason Blood,
Lucius Fox, Commissioner Gordon, and Mayor Hamilton
Hill. One of the plant creatures resembles Pierce
Chapman. Whoever that guy is. Batman and his
allies apparently don't consider Ivy's creations
to be sentient life forms since they exterminate
them without compunction. Oh God, give me your
face! it is left unexplained why veronica's state
-of -the -art laser gate which can cut through
anything can be deflected by a simple mirror
oh wow all righty then um so yeah interesting
uh oh yeah that's right mary lou henner was the
voice of veronica i forgot about that um Very
awesome. So Yeah Chemistry very very bad episode
Not the worst ever but just no no, no, no All
right, we are gonna move on to the Second to
last episode of the day seven years ago this
very night the clown prince of crime the Joker
was born on this spot Since then Gotham has repeatedly
been rocked by the attacks of this criminal madman
Who is he? Where did he come from? What diabolical
scheme is he plotting even now? I'm Jack writer
join me as we answer these questions and more
on Joker the madness behind the laughter Next
up is Beware the Creeper. At the Ace Chemical
Plant, news reporter Jack Ryder is anchoring
a live TV special on the career of the Joker,
starting with his encounter with Batman at the
plant that ended with his life -changing tumble
into a vat of chemicals. Joker, watching from
above, decides to stage his own tribute to that
fateful day, entering the scene, dosing Ryder
and his crew with his trademark laughing gas,
and then reenacting his confrontation with Batman
by tipping Ryder into another vat of chemicals.
Batman, having glimpsed Joker on television,
is quick to arrive at the plant with Robin. So,
yeah. You get to see Jack Ryder become the Creeper.
Oh, I... this is... no wonder I hate this episode.
They basically... Rehat, oh god. Jack Ryder,
Jack Napier. That of chemicals. They basically
are doing an animated version of Batman 89 here.
They are, dude. Although in this case Jack Ryder...
ends up more defunct and he actually wants to
become a joker you know but yeah wow strange
very very strange um yeah i don't care for this
episode whatsoever i i just don't care it's it's
not a good episode it pretty much made my brain
hurt. I enjoy the last episode way too the day
that we'll talk about next up, but more than
I do this. I didn't mind this one honestly just
because you have Joker and Harley and everything
causing this whole thing and they presume Ryder
dead and you know he Because of the Joker toxin
and falling in there he ends up kind of screwed
up to say the least But He's extraordinarily
strong agile and man like a maniac with yellow
skin instead of the the Pale skin of the Joker
he has green hair as well, and he has a crazy
grid And then he runs around town decides he
wants revenge on the Joker And then he goes into
a thrift store steals his goofy ass costume.
That looks like a mix between Some random superhero
and Craven from spider -man the animated series
Wow, that's nuts And then he decides to become
a crime fighter using his own credit card Batman,
you know kind of heads him off and It's funny
because Harley bumps into him and he's just like
hitting on her and Call she calls him a creep
and he decides to call himself the creeper It's
it's just it's sad It's very very very sad, but
It's funny because You have the creeper confronting
Joker who throws a vial of explosives However,
the creeper is still unharmed and is only momentarily
defeated when Harley hits him with her hammer
and then Batman and Robin go in there and pursue
them and creeper wakes up and pursues Joker and
Harley There's the Joker mobile The creeper eventually
catches Joker But he's so crazy and frantic that
Joker begs to be arrested He's like he's a lunatic
and Batman cuffs the Joker and injects the creeper
with sedative Yeah, that's the that's the best
part about this episode and then Batman gives
him like a Antidote skin patch that he had that
rider has to wear in order to stay normal to
counteract the chemicals and then Ryder examines
the skin patch and then says I find it difficult
that a little piece of cotton can make such a
big difference and then Outside the apartment
you hear small sound of tearing fabric and then
the creepers crazy laugh Yeah, I was like wow,
this is just This is all kinds of like freak
like the Joker's even just like freaked out.
He's creeped out You got anything before continuity
Okay Continuity wise in the documentary it shows
that the Joker worked for the velestra mob as
seen in Batman mask of the phantasm The beginning
of Jack Ryder's special on the Joker states that
his former identity was unknown and that he operated
under a variety of aliases. In two previous instances
before the revamp, Dreams in Darkness and Joker's
Wild, Joker was given the supposed real name
of Jack Napier, the same name he was given for
the 1989 Tim Burton movie. This episode makes
it clear that Jack Napier is not his real name
and was merely an alias that the Joker used at
one time. That means that his mystery A name
is still unknown Just like his comic version
And then it says according to the special jokers
accident was seven years before this episode
Which that's I Find that interesting too. Yeah,
that's pretty interesting When Batman sedates
the creeper in the end the syringe tube on the
injector fully disappears into the device's narrow
point Despite being made out of glass or solid
plastic Interesting Trivia on the season 1 DVD
of Freakazoid Bruce Tim mentioned his original
ideas for the Character were closer to the creeper
And specifically how the DCA used creeper turned
out then the over -the -top roads eventually
taken which caused Tim's departure from that
show Yeah, as much as I love everything Bruce
Tim touches as far as production and animation
and all the stuff he's done in his career I'm
Kind of glad no offense to the man at all We
do actually want to interview him at some point
for the show before the show ends at episode
40 But I'm glad he I I just I don't think I could
see a Siri back then at that time you You had
serious cartoons in the Marvel stuff, and in
BTIS, you didn't need... You know, and then you
had the funny stuff like Tiny Toons and Animaniacs,
and Freakazoid kind of fits in along with those.
It's a little bit darker humor than Tiny Toons
and Animaniacs, but... I don't think I could
see a serious, dark, overtone Freakazoid cartoon.
No, I couldn't have either. I love that show
the way it is. Yeah. And you have Ra's al Ghul
as Loeb. Yeah. Yeah. The thrift store is called
Ditko's Vintage Clothing after comic creator
Steve Ditko and a mannequin resembling the question
is seen in the background. He also created both
the question and the creeper. Yeah, he did. The
title of this episode comes from the creepers
original solo series in the 1960s beware the
creeper The dramatized Batman and writers documentary
look similar to Batman and his very first appearance
in detective comics number 27 Joker's gang in
this episode moe lar and Kerr very closely resemble
moe Howard Larry Fine and Jerry Curly Howard
the three stooges Yes, which were used Inspiration
for previous goons The creepers startles the
woman in her apartment. He leaves saying, okay.
I love you. Bye. Bye This is the line frequently
used by Mindy in the television series Animaniacs
I Thought I caught that in there. Yep Harley
Quinn's anniversary song to jokers and homage
to Marilyn Monroe's famous rendition of happy
birthday to President Kennedy during the episode
Joker accuses the creeper of stealing his act
Jeff Bennett the voice of creeper I thought that
was him yeah went on to voice the Joker on Batman
the brave in the bold so he did steal his act
eventually yeah Harley and Joker's escape float
is similar to Disneyland Disney World it's a
small world attraction cute robotic dolls from
different cultures with a giant globe on top
That is the worst fucking ride I have ever been
on at Disney Yeah, it is annoying. It's annoying
the song is what's annoying It's just yeah It's
gonna be I know I said this earlier, but it's
gonna be so fun editing this episode of the show
I'm sorry. I'm sorry fans I let him edit last
episode and this episode, so you have to deal
with whatever he decides to do. And it's interesting
and it's not really that surprising, but Billy
West is all three, Mo, Lauren, Kerr. Not surprising.
His fry is essentially Larry Fine. Oh, yeah,
you know it but So so awesome absolutely awesome
to see him in the show. I love some of the quotes
in this And now the weather Hartley Gaga with
a 50 % chance of schizophrenia I Want to strike
terror into the hearts of criminals cash or plastic
Last time we met you were working for dramatic
pause the joker Talking about Harley. Oh, yeah,
that's what you want the inside story on the
joker also your phone number Batman says says
to him. Who are you? Creeper they call me yellow
-skinned wacky man, but I prefer the creeper
Robin says call Arkham quick I know Joker he's
a lunatic Yeah, the episode was it's not as bad
as what you're saying, but it's it's it's more
of a fun episode. It's a stupid fun But it's
a fun episode Yeah And it takes Freakazoid to
like a darker level Yeah, it's not as bad as
chemistry. I'll I'll give it that that's as good
as I can give it All right, are we ready for
the final episode of the series? Yes, let's move
it on. Is there no honor among thieves, Mr. Cobblepot?
And you're worse than a thief, trafficking in
stolen goods. I don't know who you are, sir,
but I assure you, my transactions were all legitimate.
You see, I had no actual knowledge that the items
were stolen. Given that, I don't see how the
law can touch me. I am the law. I am the law!
Final episode of the day and the final last episode
of Batman the animated series is Old Wounds,
yay! Oh no, wait, I'm sorry. Judgment Day. I
am so sorry. I know people love Over the Edge
and that's a damn fine episode, but with the
way Old Wounds ends, it should have been the
series finale. I like Judgment Day. It's a good
episode. I'm gonna get in the description here
in a second, but I have to rant about this because
why they did not air Old Wounds Last is beyond
me. I have no clue. So for Judgment Day, in his
design studio, the Penguin is conducting illicit
business with Killer Croc. I throw a rock at
him. Fencing a stolen diamond, he informs Croc
that the item he has stole is not seller's market
and therefore can only offer no more than $50
,000. Croc is outraged, but the Penguin justifies
this reduced offer based on expenses entailing
his business. At that time, Two -Face arrives
and the Penguin says that he was able to secure
a better price for his stolen goods. Croc becomes
even more infuriated and the Penguin tells him
he can find himself another fence. Kroc grudgingly
takes his money and leaves with Two -Face. The
penguin cordially bids them goodbye and turns
to his safe. As he stashes the diamond and a
wad of money inside, he boasts of how he swindled
Two -Face upon that. A deep voice surfaces asking
if there is no longer honor among thieves. The
penguin turns around to find a tall figure. dressed
in a long black robe and wearing ceremonial wig.
The figure accuses the penguin of being worse
than a thief for trafficking in stolen goods.
The penguin vouches for the legitimacy of his
business, claiming to have no prior knowledge
of the origins of said items, and therefore considering
himself exempt from the law. The man proclaims
himself as the law and unsheathes his sword.
He finds the penguin is guilty and starts swinging
at him. The penguin runs for his life and calls
out for his hench girls only to find them tied
up and hanging from the ceiling. He then makes
a run for the back door and tries to unlock it
while his pursuer sends a giant penguin model
rolling towards him. Effigy runs over the penguin
knocking him unconscious. Basically to spoil
this for everybody two -face has a third face
the judge Three faces three face This episode
is a very psychological episode because it deals
with Harvey It deals with his two halves being
always in conflict with each other so he then
creates a third personality to atone for his
sins as as two -face I Think that's damn interesting
You don't apparently Find it interesting that
he developed a third personality Yeah, I don't
care Was surprised to find out that he developed
a third personality all of a sudden it just seemed
like a convenient plot device But it could be
the good and it could be the good and Harvey
Dent coming out in that persona kind of like
Bruce and Batman and Yeah, he's taking a couple
of good pummels to the head Yeah, I want to be
a good guy now I'm gonna be catatonic for the
rest of my life Well, he's not catatonic he isn't
he's He's he's just constantly talking to it
like at that end scene when he's in the in the
cell guilty guilty guilty He's just talking to
him. He's having a conversation with his three
personalities Because he's standing trial in
his own mind So it's an interesting End for Two
-Face All right, so anything before Production
inconsistencies you get any other thoughts? Not
really Right after the judge says may heaven
have mercy on your souls to face both of them
Two faces haves have flipped his good half is
on his left side and all his bad half is on his
right Trivia last appearances of killer croc
the Riddler two -face and the penguin in the
series However, the Riddler and penguin reappear
in the Superman the enemy in series episode nighttime.
Oh Man, you need to you need to see that episode.
You're gonna love that episode. Oh, I did. Oh
You've seen it. Yes Don't do that again. It creeps
me out Perfect muscle control The Penguin later
reappears in the movie Batman Mystery of the
Batwoman. While Killer Croc, The Riddler, and
Two -Face make brief appearances as training
robots in the Batman Beyond episode, Terry's
friend dates a robot. And in alternate reality,
Two -Face makes a non -speaking appearance in
the Justice League episode, A Better World. Despite
the fact that the new series focused more on
the sidekicks of Batman, there are none in this
episode. At the start of the first scene with
the judge and J. Carol Cochran, a male version
of Lady Justice is seen outside. Rather than
a blindfold, he wears sunglasses as more modern
take on the adage, Justice is blind. Well, if
Justice is blind, he must be blind as a bat.
Oh, come on, you know that bat fleck pun was
funny. Oh boy. This is bad. Wait. Who the hell
was Moe? And I don't mean Moe as in the Three
Stooges Moe. Uh, Moe wasn't... Oh, wow. I didn't
even notice that. Lauren Lester was the voice
of Moe, one of Two -Face's henchmen. Did not
even notice that. Nice. That's awesome. John
Glover, obviously, is the Riddler. Steven Weber
was J. Carol Cochran. Overall, as a regular episode,
I really, really enjoy the Judgment Day. as a
series finale, not a very good choice. No, it
sucks. It just flat out sucks. I don't know if
this is how they planned it. I don't think it
was. I don't know if this is what Fox told them
to do. I'm not sure because I know by this time
they probably got there because they were working
on. Well, we had the because the whole point
of the new Batman Adventures is also it was teamed
with The new Superman Avengers because there
were several crossovers between the two shows
hence why you have that really awesome Batman
mixed with Superman theme at the beginning of
the podcast you know so because there were several
times where The intro and actually I'm gonna
go on YouTube and find the intro and I'm gonna
embed it in the post for episode 22 of Legends
of the Dark Knight It's a combination of their
their animation styles and models and logos and
all that so Overall the job I keep wanting to
call it the judge. I don't know why judgment
day It's a good episode as a series finale. No
Nope Any other thoughts on judgment day It's
judged in the verdict is in and it is over We
are going to go to a quick audio break back to
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Joker. Where? It's just me, B -Man. No joker,
no gas bombs, no city in peril. Just you, that
tank, and me. Why? To show Mr. J I could really
pull off one of his plans. See, he could never
get these fishies to smile. But then I had the
bright idea of hanging the victim. That's you,
upside down. That way, to you, it'll look like
they're smiling. Clever? Brilliant. Yeah, yeah,
I can tell you're less than thrilled. You know,
for what it's worth, I actually enjoyed some
of our rumps. But there comes a time when a gal
wants more. And now all this gal wants is to
settle down with her lovin' sweetheart. You and
the Joker? Right -a -rooney! I've never seen
you laugh before. I don't think I like it. Cut
it out! You're giving me the creeps! You little
fool. The Joker doesn't love anything except
himself. Wake up, Harleen. He had you pegged
for a hired help the minute you walked into Arkham.
That's not... No! No! He told me things! Secret
things! He never told anyone! Was it his line
about the abuse of father? Or the one about the
runaway mom? He's gained a lot of sympathy with
that one. Stop it! You're making me confused!
What was it he told that one parole officer?
Oh, yes. There was only one time I ever saw Dad
really happy. He took me to the ice show when
I was seven. Circus. He said it was the circus.
He's got a million of them, Harley. You're the
problem! And now you're gonna die and make everything
right! Except you'll never believe you did it.
Huh? Sure he will! How's Joker gonna know I'm
really gone? All those fish will leave are scraps
of bone and cloth. Anyone can fake that. True,
you've got my belt. But it's not the same as
a body. You'll never buy it. Lame. Not funny.
Been done. Too rittler. What? Harley? Where the
heck have you been? Batman, eh? You don't say.
You have who? Tied up where? Well, nerds to you,
Mr. Smarty Bat. When I told Mr. J what I was
doing, he was so... Excuse me I'll be just a
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And we're back with Legends of the Dark Knight
after that final five episodes of Batman the
Animated Series. I'm let down I wish they would
have put old wounds last I really do yeah well
the order wasn't exactly something that no I
know control I'm sure so yeah no I understand
that still it just I don't know all right so
what are your top five For this up Chemistry
is coming in last But where the creeper is next
judgment day girls night out and then mad love
is number one About you well for me. I have to
say that Hold on Damn computer Hold on damn computer
Yeah, so My starting from the bottom and working
their way to my number one of the night I would
say chemistry is my bottom feeder Followed by
judgment day followed by beware the creeper followed
by girls night out followed by mad love Yes,
my number one so yeah So yes, this is the final
episode covering Batman the animated series episode
reviews As we're all as it changed three names,
but yes Yes, Batman the animated series the adventures
of Batman and Robin and the new Batman Superman
adventures Overall the series is damn good. It
was groundbreaking for its time going back there's
maybe I don't know out of a hundred and eight
a hundred nine episodes there's maybe thirty
that I can watch over and over and over again
I can kind of agree with that yeah shall we reveal
what's coming up over the next through the rest
of the year yes just so everyone knows we are
not and I repeat, are not going to be starting
Batman Beyond until next year. We are, on the
other hand, going to be finishing out 2013 with
commentaries of the following films. Starting
with Batman Mask of the Phantasm, Batman and
Mr. Freeze Sub -Zero, Batman Mystery of the Batwoman,
and the Batman Superman movie World's Finest.
Yes, that's right. Uh, Batman Superman movie
World's Finest will be aired on Halloween this
year. It will celebrate our... Oh, God, what
is it? Two -year anniversary? Of the show? Yeah,
when the hell we start this show? Uh, back in
2011. Yeah. Eleven, ten, eleven. Don't always
start with the the intro episode was Halloween
of 11 But yeah, yeah, we originally intended
this show to be done by this point, but obviously
schedules got in the way but after the commentaries
we only have 14 more episodes. Yeah, so But yeah,
it's it's been a fun ride going through Batman
the animated series I have to agree with you
as well that it was kind of let down the last
episode Not having I mean I can see having mad
love in there. I agree old one should have probably
been in there Couple other episodes that could
have been included in this like legends of the
dark night See if they just switched if they
just moved a few of them around and switched
it to the last five episodes to having these
blockbuster hits Yeah, if they just took Over
the edge Old wounds legends of the dark night
girls night out and mad love as the final episodes
with obviously old wounds be because that's the
thing it's like When you watch Old Wounds, what
happens in that episode by the end? Nightwing
appears to forgive Batman, and they go off into
further adventures into the unknown of, you know,
stopping criminals. That's how I see the end
of that episode. And, you know, we live in an
age today where continuity is everything in television.
I get back in the 90s it wasn't. But... Yeah.
I don't know. But yeah, I mean, I can agree with
that. But yeah, in any case, the next episode
you guys will hear will be Batman Mask of the
Phantasm commentary, which happens to be also
the very first movie I ever saw in theater. So.
It holds a very special place to me. I'm trying
to remember the very first movie I saw in the
theater, I think. I think it was 89 Batman. Nice,
Batman. I think it was because after that I remember
the next one was Turtles and then Turtles 2 and
then Batman Returns but anyway but yeah no I
mean and I'm gonna tell you right now folks and
Steve and I haven't talked about this all as
I'll say is when we get to Batman Beyond next
year It's the podcast is just gonna fly by we're
still gonna You know do our due diligence and
and put all of our dedication into doing the
show But it's not gonna be like every two weeks
here and then three months pass. You know what
I mean? It's gonna Fly by since Batman Beyond
is on Netflix or at least it is at this point.
Hopefully it still is next year I would assume
it still would be And I don't know they removed
spider -man the animated series and x -men the
animated series So well doesn't been on there
a while too. So yeah, that's true I'd assume
these would be on there for a while. But anyways
Any other thoughts? Oh Not that I can think of
already then let's close it out then Thank you
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