Legends of the Dark Knight

Second Chance, Harley’s Holiday, Lock Up, and Make ‘Em Laugh Review

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About this Episode

This episode covers four episodes of Batman: The Animated Series. The hosts discuss the potential for Harvey Dent's reform in "Second Chance," Harley Quinn's struggle to adjust to life outside Arkham in "Harley's Holiday," the power-tripping warden in "Lock Up," and the Joker's vengeful comedy plot in "Make 'Em Laugh." The discussion highlights character depth, the show's writing, voice acting, and continuity details such as shared character traits between the animated show and the comics. The hosts also address listener feedback regarding future commentaries for the DCAU films.

Hi, this is Kevin Conroy and you're listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. You're listening

to Legends of the Dark Knight only on the Geekcast

Radio Network. Hello and welcome to Legends of

the Dark Knight. I'm your host Steve Megatron

Phillips and joining me into this trip into the

darkness of Gotham City is... DMT1 Mike. Hello.

Hello. As you will notice, there is no Terra.

Due to life. Yes. Life has a way of coming up

and biting one in thy ass. Yes at the most unexpected

time. We are all victims of life Yes, that might

bit her in the ass. Yes. Oh We wish that everything

Recovers accordingly and she returns to the podcast

soon. Yes And you may be asking why did I bring

that up right off the bat? Well, we have a new

iTunes review And this was by James Ritter on

September 11th, stating with a five -star review,

best Batman animated podcast. Thank you very

much. He says, I've been listening to this podcast

and I really like what you do with it. I like

the reviews. I agree with mostly all of them,

but can I request that you do a commentary for

Batman Mask of the Phantasm like you did for

Transformers the movie? And could you get Birdman

for the commentary as well? Overall, awesome

podcast, only one question, where's Tara? Which

we just answered. Mike and I were talking about

it off air, more than likely we'll be doing commentaries

for the films. Yeah. Episodes 23 through 27,

I think? Now I gotta look. When we get to the

films, Mask of Phantasm, Sub -Zero, all that

good stuff, it is episode, yeah I was right,

episode 23 through, well 23 through 26, 27 is

when we begin Batman Beyond. Episodes 23 through

26 will be the DCAU Batman films. We will give

about 20 minutes of discussion. on the film,

talk about the cast, talk about some of the trivia

bits, and then we're gonna go into commentary

on each one. As far as getting Birdman, his schedule

is so just out there. His schedule, Steve's schedule,

plus, you know, Steve, we have said that you

are, you know, going to have a Megatron Jr.,

correct? I don't know if we've directly stated

it in this podcast. I think we have. I don't

remember. But yay, Steve is going to be a daddy

in November. Yes. Maybe before then. So yay,

congratulations to him. And with Steve and his

wife having their firstborn child, who they better

not promise to rumple still skin. No, no. That

rap bastard can't have my kid. And, yeah, I don't

think Rumpelstiltskin can handle ICP. It's ECP.

Oh, damn. See, I curbed that. Yeah, Environmental

Protection Corporation. Oh, wait, this is backwards.

Anyway, the whole point is the schedules with

Birdman and Steve may not line up correctly to

have Birdman on DCIU commentary films. But we

will be doing the commentaries ourselves as well.

Just like what we did with Transformers the movie

to answer Mr. Ritter's question there But yeah,

I mean thank you for the review Yes, thank you

very very awesome. I am still Recovering from

Batman week because that was a lot of blogging

for me We are over at geekcastervideo .com later

on in October, we're going to be doing a TMNT

week. I'm only doing three blogs for that. I'm

lining up other stuff for that to have credit

for, but as far as blogging, I'm only doing three

blogs for, well, four actually, four blogs for

TMNT week. I'm not doing as many as I did for

Batman. Just, no, that nearly killed me. Yes.

Yeah, we're not mentioning what I just typed

off here, but um But um, I thought those damn

Indian pirates Anyways, um, we'll jump into the

first episode right after this You think this

operation will make Harvey okay again? I don't

know. We can only... Batman and Robin watch intently

as an ambulance carrying Two -Face takes him

to the hospital. Robin asks if the operation

will make Harvey better again, but Batman is

unsure. Inside the hospital, the doctors talk

to Harvey telling him that his bad side has been

mostly submerged and they believe that if they

remove the scars that created Two -Face, the

persona will be gone forever. However, Harvey

then asks if Bruce picked up the tab for it and

thinks back on his friendship with Bruce Harvey

is put to sleep and the doctors prepare for surgery

however before they can act thugs suddenly burst

in firing machine guns into the room written

by Paul Dini and Michael Reeves which you can

tell it's a Paul Dini oh yeah I mean there's

just yeah I mean Paul Dini has such an amazing

affliction and and and love for these characters

that he loves writing stories that that will

compel you and this is a this is a very interesting

two -faced plot because they go this actually

reminds me of tart night returns part one pretty

much The whole thing of making him whole again

or making the sides match Yeah, the the Dark

Knight returns yeah, yeah, I caught that reference

yeah um I like the episode I think I I think

it's a good episode I I don't like when they

just use two -face as a one -off villain I like

it better when they're telling stories about

him honestly about his gimmick I would rather

see more with him than with like Penguin or Thorne

or some of these other villains. I think he's

got more potential than they give him credit

for. Just like the Arkham games, they don't give

him enough credit. He's a one -off. Yeah, but

overall I mean the animation in this is great,

you know, the story is great and of course the

voice acting I Love the fact that that Harvey

or two -faced kidnaps himself No, you can't destroy

me I I am strong I can't be destroyed and then

he flips his coin and Batman tells him to Let

it land on see what face it lands on on the ground

and two face keeps flipping the coin Yeah, and

it keeps landing on edge. Yep That's because

it was it was showing a significant thing in

his personalities where He it's telling him.

Hey dumbass you have a split personality That's

why it was landing on edge and then of course

well That's why you can read into it that it

wasn't landing on edge But didn't Batman give

him a trick coin that it would always land on

edge Wasn't that the the punchline Batman switched

out the coins. I know that's so hilarious Because

as he's as two -faced keeps doing it he keeps

getting madder and madder and madder and madder

And you can just tell he's just ready to pop.

And I think it's funny they actually make him

make his own decision. Yup. Yup. My favorite

Two -Face episode is actually one we haven't

gotten to yet, but it's pretty much the last

episode with him. And as far as the DVD order,

it's the last episode on the DVD set, which is

Judgment Day. Because I think that one like this

one is deep and dark with you know him going

into this whole split person like Realizing he

is a split personality that one takes it to a

whole nother level. Oh Judgment Day takes it

so much darker And I love it about that, but

no second chances. It is a really damn good episode

I agree So as far as our information the continuity

Batman recollects the accident that scarred Harvey

Dent from two -face part one production inconsistencies

Batman said that only the kidnappers footprints

would be in the OR because the doctors and nurses

would wear paper socks over their shoes however

Batman and Robin had already walked in the operating

room trying to prevent the kidnapping so their

footprints would be there as well trivia This

episode is the second produced episode in a trilogy

of episodes depicting the failed attempts to

reform some of Batman's enemies. He -Man and

the Masters of the Universe from 83. If you grew

up with that. Well right. That's why I said most

people. She's also done plenty of other things

as well. I mean she's done tons of stuff that

people would recognize her from. I love some

of the quotes for this episode. Harvey good old

Bruce. He's never given up on me always been

my best friend I remember when we used to you

know and then he goes on and on but it's funny

that he's You know remembering that Bruce's is

pretty much only friend hmm I like this dialogue

between Robin and Batman Sorry, I wasn't able

to stop him and then Batman says I'm sure you

did your best and then Robin says don't gush

all over me. It's embarrassing Because he never

shows any kind of like thanks or of any kind

Hmm that's It's very very interesting. Um, let's

see I'm trying to see here with Linda. Gary.

What's something you might recognize her from

No, let's see she was in a couple of land before

time movies I hate those movies. I know that's

horrible to say but I I can't stand them They

driving me nuts. She was Grandma Lung Neck and

Nose. Oh, there's something you'd recognize her

from. She was the voice of Chromia in Transformers.

Of Chromia? Yeah. Season 2 of G1. The female

Autobot. Okay. Yes, and she played... Oh, she

was Aunt May in Spider -Man. Yep. Wow. Oh, and

she was in Swat Cats. Yep. Okay, so I recognize

her at least from a few things. Yeah, yeah. Very

cool, very cool. But you know, second chance

overall, very good episode. Yes, very good. So

with that, we'll be moving on. You've made wonderful

progress, Harley. You've passed your competency

hearing, and tomorrow you'll be released mentally

sane and sound. Whee! Wahoo! Whoopee! Yay, yay,

yay! Uh, I mean, thank you, Dr. Leland. That's

okay. You have every reason to be proud of yourself.

Unhand me! I just wish the other inmates could

make your sort of progress. I am the Master of

Fear, the Lord of Despair! Cower before me in

witless stutter! Hi, Professor Crane. Good evening,

child. Worship me, fools! Worship me! Scream

hosannas of anguish to scarecrow, the all -terrible

god of fear! I think he's getting better. I hear

you're getting out tomorrow. You got a problem

with that? Congratulations. Yeah, so I made a

few mistakes. I've got my head back together

and I'm gonna live my life right. For your sake,

I hope so. I'll show ya! Starting tomorrow, you'll

see I'm just as sane as anybody. Oh my lord!

Next up is Harley's Holiday At Arkham Asylum,

Harley Quinn is jubilant to receive a clean bill

of mental health from her doctor and be granted

parole. and Robin in the process of returning

Scarecrow to Arkham, yet again, offer their congratulations,

but warn her to stay out of trouble. She declares

that starting the next day, she'll show the world

just how sane she is. The next day, she is ambling

down the street on roller skates looking for

all the world like a carhop on her day off, except

she's taking her two rabid pet hyenas for a walk,

and passerbys are scrambling to get out of her

way. Well, it's not her fault her pets are rabbit

hyenas. It's the Joker's fault. She thinks they're

dogs. Yeah, I Did you just say but I think you

just said two stupid dogs. No, I said she thinks

they're her dogs. Oh, okay No, I really like

this episode it shows that it shows the beginnings

of the story that is told in mad love It shows

that in here that Harley does really want to

reform at one point or another. I really like

that about this one. Yes. What about you? Yes.

I... I like the fact that they went in depth

with her character. And yes, Paul Dini wrote

it, so of course there's going to be some good

character depth. Well, he created this character,

I think. Yeah, yep, so um it's it's nice to see

him keep going into the persona I like the fact

that She's still scared like a criminal criminal

mm -hmm Just because of you know some minor things

that happened even though it wasn't her fault

at all right but um It was funny seeing her running

around with Veronica, and they're you know big

based and I Really did like seeing Harley actually

Doing something without the Joker. Yeah on her

own without Ivy Yep, so Harley is like Harley

unlike Ivy actually has character depth Ivy I've

said it many times in the past 16 episodes Ivy

to me has absolutely no character depth unless

she's playing You know How's he gonna use a clerk's

joke there, but I think I'll forgo that Ivy is

More adept to having you know partners and sidekicks

and whatever else or cohorts versus having a

solo episode Yeah, she seems to function better

that way yeah, I do like how in this episode

that uh Harley asks Batman why he's been looking

after her when she's been nothing but trouble

and He sympathizes with her and says I had a

bad day too once Yeah, that is a heartbreaking

line right yeah that that was that was real cool

to see and then he gives her the dress that she

bought Yep, and then she cheated on Joker She

only kissed him. I know I'm just joking but Be

different if she was trying to fly off with his

bat dick Anyways getting into the continuity

boxy last appeared in and refers to the events

of Harley Quinn aid The trivia Harley's sense

of deja vu when she sees Bruce Wayne is not unique

Joker likewise thought he recognized Bruce in

Joker's wild You know, you'd think they'd recognize

that face speaking of which Harley thinks she

recognizes Bruce's chin in Batman animated The

producers wrote that Bruce Wayne Batman's look

was heavily inspired by Dick Tracy. Yeah While

screaming and being returned to his cell the

scarecrow screams all should feel anguished towards

him as the god of fear The comics god of fear

was actually a title that scarecrow took when

he sent all of Gotham in a panic shortly after

Bane broke Batman's back So in a sense it's got

some Dark Knight Rises in it and Batman begins

as far as the quote is concerned with the comic

Yeah. Uh, Harley's tirade and Batman's commissaration

with her Echoes dialogues from Alan Moore's celebrated

Batman story, The Killing Joke, in which the

Joker says that all it takes to turn a sane man

into a lunatic is one really bad day. And then

truly asks Batman whether something like that

happened to him as well. I should actually pick

that up. Killing Joke, yeah. I can get my hands

on it, but I don't want to spend the money that

I've seen it for in comic shops. It's like 25,

30 bucks or higher. I know. Harley's line, call

me Harley, everyone does, is used in a tape recording

of Harley starts at Arkham in Batman Arkham Asylum.

I don't remember that, but I haven't played the

game in so long. It's crazy. This is one of two

episodes of BTAS that begins with Batman and

Robin escorting the apprehended Scarecrow back

to Arkham Asylum. The other one is lock up You

just can't keep a damn Scarecrow down, you know

Any thoughts on this episode? Um, I like it.

I you know, I I just It's, you know, it's one

of those things where, as I said earlier, a second

ago, it's, you know, it's leading up to mad love.

You're slow, you know, throughout, you know,

I mean, even the one where, the one we talked

about last time. Oh, God, what was it? Where

Joker's down on his luck. And she goes off and...

I don't remember. I might be thinking of something

else. I don't know. But no, it's... Harley's

character slowly builds throughout the series,

and I really do enjoy that. Yes. So with that,

we'll be moving on. Don't take me back there,

please! Look at me, Batman! I'm shaking with

fear! Me! The Scarecrow! I wasn't even going

back to Grime this time! I just had to get away

from... him! I'll take it from here, Batman.

Lyle Bolton, Chief of Security. Congratulations,

Professor Crane. You're the first inmate to escape

Arkham under my charge. You're also the last.

I won't let you and the people of Gotham City

down again, Batman. That Bolton's a 10 on the

creeper meter. But it seems like he's doing a

good job keeping the inmates in check. Maybe

too good. I've called this informal inquest to

address certain allegations brought to my attention.

Are you sure this hearing was necessary, Wayne?

Bolton was brought to Arkham on a Wayne Foundation

grant. With his knowledge of high -tech security

systems, I felt he was the perfect man for the

job. If anyone objects to my methods... Please,

tell me. Miss Quinn, do you have any complaints

against Mr. Bolton? I got nothing to say. But

surely you must have something you wish to -

You got a hearing prob - Next up is Lock Up.

Batman and Robin, having captured the Scarecrow,

did they really have to do the Scarecrow again?

Return him to the gates of Arkham Asylum. Scarecrow

is shaking with terror and begs the dynamic duo

to let him go, saying he wasn't going to commit

any more crimes. He only escaped to get away

from him, Lyle Bolton. That's a bad Michael Bolton

concept. As you pointed out, Arkham's imposing

new chief of security appears at the entrance

and takes hold of Scarecrow, telling him that

he'll be the only escapee from Arkham on his

watch. Bolton apologizes to the heroes for Scarecrow's

escape and makes an ominous vow that he won't

let them down. Nor the people of Gotham again.

Robin is impressed by Bolton's dedication, but

Batman detects something sinister beneath Bolton's

professional demeanor. yeah another Paul Daney

episode yep written by or teleplay by Marty Eisenberg

and Robert and skewer very awesome very awesome

I uh I kind of like this one because it's putting

Batman up against something that he's not used

to where a criminal is telling him he only escaped

to get away from Get away from the Power Mad

Hungry Warden. You know what? If this was set

in the, um... You know, in the olden days, this

could almost be the Shawshank for BTIS. Yeah.

But they don't play no foosball. Yeah. No, I

really enjoyed this one. I thought it was really,

really cool. It's a neat concept. It's the whole

power trip thing with the prison guards, or warden

I should say. The animation was great. The voice

cast was great as usual. Didn't really have too

much to you know too many bad things to say about

this one I really just you know when I was watching

it back I was just like sitting here watching

it and just enjoying it I didn't really feel

the pressing need to write down any notes or

anything like that I Think it's funny that Bolton's

gone kind of to the point of That he's torturing

the inmates and saying that they should be beaten

nearly to death and kind of loses it and it takes

you know a bunch of orderlies and Bruce Wayne

to kind of take him down yeah and then the fact

that you know he's he's making a list of you're

on my list I will destroy you you're on my list

you pissed me off I see when I was watching this

back like I didn't see any real I mean I get

he's a he's a power man prison warden but I didn't

see any real like okay we you know this you know

sometimes we'll have a story where someone does

someone wrong and they want to get revenge on

them or something like that like you know take

There was an episode that we did of mass mayhem

with a episode of masking it where this Indian

sheik was Fired from a job and he was abused

at a Home for boys and whatever when I was younger

like okay those kind of things I can see you

know wanting to get revenge on those people and

in those places, but Mike You know, Michael Bolton

clone over there didn't really have any motivation

to... I didn't really see his motivation to want

to... why he wanted to beat the prisoners senseless

and why he wanted to torture them. I just didn't

get it. Because he didn't want them getting out

on his watch. Right, but... And he was the, you

know, chief of security at the temporary prison...

Yeah. Okay, I can see it now, but still... He's

overly enthusiastic with his job. Yeah. A little

bit too much. Very much so, yes. He could have

reformed them. Right. Hey, they wouldn't want

to do anymore crimes. They wouldn't want to go

back to jail. Right. Before you get into... The

trivia and stuff, I'm looking at the quotes here.

Regarding Harley regarding Bolton, I got nothing

to say. Dr. Bartholomew says, but surely you

must have something you wish to. You got a heron

problem or something? No, nada, x -nay, zero,

zilch, bupkis. Nothing, okay? Yeah, you gotta

rip that out. I love that. I love one of Harley.

just denies everything. Hardly is hilarious in

any conversation, though. She is. Uh. I'm sorry,

I'm just reading the quotes. He held me over

a can filled with termites, ya hear me? Termites!

Scarface. Oh my god. I think it's funny even

though he's locked up. He says they brought they

thought they could trap me in a world with lunatics

But I showed them now I can keep an eye on everyone.

They'll never slip past me again, even though

he's locked in a cell Yeah Go ahead and get into

the information before I start going off on another

quote tangent, okay? Production inconsistencies,

after putting Mayor Hill in his cell, Lockup

rattles the bars with his nightstick, but the

sound effect is missing. Trivia, first appearance

of Bruce Weitz in the DCAU. He later went on

to voice gangster Bruno Mannheim on Superman

the Animated Series. Along with Harley Quinn

and Renee Montoya, Lockup was one of a few original

characters created for the DCAU who were incorporated

into the mainstream comics continuity. In fact,

Lockup's incorporation actually preceded that

of Harley, the most prominent example of such

characters. Funny thing is, I don't remember

reading anything with him in it. Then again,

I didn't read much of the comics around that

time, so it's kind of hard for me to say. Yeah.

When Bolton goes berserk during the hearing scene,

there is a humorous moment when Bruce Wayne,

still in his guise of the indolent playboy, rather

than the world's finest unarmed combatant, subdues

Bolton by accidentally tripping him. Yeah, I

love Bruce in disguise. Not just in BTIS, but

throughout the entire DCIU, I love when Bruce

goes into disguise. Just... It's just absolutely

priceless. Oh, yeah. This is one of the two episodes

of BTAS that begins with Batman and Robin escorting

the apprehended scarecrow back. The other is

Harley's Holiday, which we just talked about.

The Joker can be heard laughing as Bolton was

being led to his cell. That's awesome. Yeah.

Take it away, Joker. It was it was definitely

canned. Yeah When you said take it away Joker,

I was gonna say what's he gonna do start singing

start singing? A Michael Bolton song and I was

trying to come up with He's gonna be on a boat.

Yeah Anyways, I would say that it overall it

wasn't a bad episode but it wasn't one of my

favorites only for the fact that I think that,

like you said, Lockup doesn't really, there's

no reason why he should be that sinister towards

the villains. It doesn't explain anything about

his backstory prior to becoming a security guard.

So it's kind of a weak episode. Yup. So with

that, we'll be moving on. party of one king king

no i'm sorry i don't show that reservation oh

yeah well let me show you something fruitcake

heads up shallhounds drop your forks and prepare

to cower before the uncanny condiment king who

is that some kind of nutcase just ignore him

someone will call security Hey! Hey! I don't

believe this! I say cower, and you're still eating?

Well, alright then. Now see here, you. Hot sauce!

Anyone else want to be a hero? Next up is...

Make Em Laugh! A man in a bizarre costume calling

himself the Condiment King holds up an upscale

restaurant. Almost like Burger King. Though he

is armed with nothing more than two hoses spraying

ketchup and mustard, his manner is sufficiently

bizarre and violent to persuade the patrons to

hand over their money and valuables. Batman arrives

and easily subdues the man, who starts acting

up and falls off the balcony onto the roof of

a arriving police car. Renee Montoya removes

the man's disguise and recognizes him as a famous

TV comedian, Buddy Standler. I really like this

episode, and this was one - What, it's a Joker

episode? Well, not even because of that. I mean,

it's Paul Dini and Randy Rogel who wrote it.

Yeah. There seems to be a trend in these newer,

you know, BTS episodes with Paul Dini, but -

Yeah. They have - the Condiment King and the

Pack Rat, which is annoying. And then they have,

not only the Joker, but there's, I like the fact

that this is all one big revenge plot because

he couldn't get on the Laugh Up competition.

Oh, Joker. He's a shucky rimshot. It just doesn't

sound right at all. Alls I can flash to is, um...

Oh, God. And again, I'm gonna explain this because

I know you don't watch it, but there's an episode

of Phineas and Ferb where they have to create

a new cell phone for their sister Candice. And

they create this super technical, I mean, this

phone can do anything and everything. Um, and

a bird ends up getting ahold of Candice's phone.

And, and she goes, Candice is like, well, I'm

really hanging off a cliff here. And the bird

taps the phone and you hear a rim shot. Where's

the bird with the rim shot up when you need it.

God Shaky rimshot. That's that's funny. That's

just this is such a horrible name Hey kids rimshot

time Oh funny, oh my god, oh Just no, I really

like you know A lot of the Joker episodes to

this point, I liked a lot of them and a lot of

them made me laugh, but there are a couple of

Joker episodes that I really don't care for.

It's not that I dislike the Joker, it's just

that the episode I just might have not have found

that funny. I like all the Joker episodes in

general, but I found this one to be more enjoyable

than some of the others so far. Joker's Millions

was great. We already reviewed it with Cameron

Kaiser. Oh, the Kaiser Hotel? Yeah, that episode.

I like that episode. But really, for me, Joker

comes into his own. once you have really where

Joker like and it's probably because I love love

this episode he gets some of the best lines in

old wounds absolutely love that episode but what

I love about Joker in general is that throughout

the DCAU when he's around when he's in other

situations and it's not just Batman Like in STAS

when he teams up with Lex for World's Finest

or in Justice League when he's with all of them

Just the way his mannerisms are there and on

all of that That's that's to me what really makes

my fandom of the Joker is as he progresses through

DCAU lore And I know you're a Joker fanboy, so

you like anything But no, I did really enjoy

this episode. This episode was really well thought

out, well written. You know, the chokes were

just hilarious. And you know, some of them were

just like hilarious, like head nodders where

you just kind of tilt your head and like, oh

yeah, that is kind of funny, isn't it? Yeah,

I just, I really liked the fact that Joker...

rigged this whole scenario. Yeah. And, uh, he,

he filled the place with Joker gas. So that he

could actually get real laughter. Which, it's

induced, so whatever. It's still fake, but, um,

I think it's funny when his pants fall and he

trips. Everybody laughs at him and he gets humiliated

then he hides his head in his trophy But yeah

the the the fact that they I did not like these

the three comedians that he was I Was glad they

were making fun of themselves essentially Yeah,

just because they were annoying So I couldn't

stand them for that rate that reason alone But

I I would say it's overall enjoyable Getting

into the continuity when Batman and Robin are

watching the news report on the economy king

the headline of the newspaper Robin is holding

reads Rally to be held for Gordon this newspaper

headline was also used in and refers to events

of the earlier episode shadow of the bat I Don't

Time is so weird in the not not just BTS, but

time is so weird in indeed in the DCA you Like

why would you like? Okay, if that's a production

inconsistency, I get that But why would you reference

some especially in a newspaper that you know

you you would think that they're But they would

have that day's newspaper not a newspaper from

a few weeks or months ago whenever shadow of

the bat happened in in this in the storyline

of the continuity. Uh, I don't know. It's kind

of weird. Oh yeah. Uh, production notes. When

Lisa answers the door, a voice on the television

says, greetings, riddle tykes. It's time for

riddle number 317537. Before being cut off, this

is actually reused audio from Riddler's Reform

where the Riddler used the num - riddle number

3 1 7 5 3 7 0 1 Now wouldn't it be interesting

if the if the numbers were Where is it here Let's

see instead of using 3 1 7 5 3 7 0 1 if he used

3 1 7 5 1 7 0 1 One seven zero one is ah one

seven zero one yeah nice Or you could just you

know eight three six five three oh nine Six seven

five three oh nine eight six seven yeah Or you

could wear sunglasses at night Talk about dying

in somebody's arms Okay, I'm not even gonna sing

Um Production inconsistencies Lisa Lorraine mighty

mom's character is credited as rolling pin I

won't beat you That's so funny But um Joker gives

voice to the famous phrase up up in a way usually

associated with Superman This is the first time

this phrase has appeared in the DCAU. The other

is in Superman the animated series, New Kids

in Town. Yeah, New Kids in Town was not a good

episode. That's why I feel bad for you when you

have to actually review it. Eventually, I still

haven't come up with the title for the untitled

STAS project yet. The untitled Superman project?

Yeah. The episode is thematically similar to

Martin Scorsese's 1983 film, The King of Comedy,

in which an aspiring stand -up comic of mediocre

talent, Robert De Niro, is driven to kidnap his

idol, Jerry Lewis, and blackmails him into allowing

the wannabe to headline his evening show. That's

funny. In the later movie, Batman Beyond Return

of the Joker, Terry McGinnis taunts Joker about

his lameness. as a comedian, suggesting he should

make a face or drop his pants for laughs. Joker

actually does both in this episode, though the

latter most unintentionally. It does indeed get

uproarious laughter, much to his sugaring. But

at this point, outside of the movies, I am so

ready for Batman Beyond. Oh my god. Just some

of the quotes in that series, especially Return

of the Joker. Return of the Joker is one of the

most quote -worthy movies ever. I would say between

Transformers The Movie and Return of the Joker,

they are the two most heavily quoted animated

movies ever when it comes to robots and superheroes.

I can recite just about a good percentage of

the Joker lines from that film. Yeah. Especially

his scene where he kills Bonk. Bonk? Oh, that's

right. Dead. DDB lamb and take out the trash.

All of you, a disgrace to the name Joker. I love

where he goes, if you insist. And then the guy's

like, oh no, I was just kidding. He was like,

so was I. And then he shoots him anyway. Wait,

no I wasn't. Oops, no I wasn't. That's also how

he did it in my day. It's gonna be so fun doing

a commentary on that one. Oh my god. I'm gonna

probably speak the line verbatim while it's going,

but. Yeah. That's because I like it. Any other

trivia bits from this one? This episode may be

a reference to Joker's origins as depicted in

works like The Killing Joke, where before becoming

the Joker, he was a failed comedian who was pushed

into crime. I can see that, yeah. Buddy Standler

Harry Loomis and Lisa Lorraine share similarities

and names with comedians Buddy Hackett, Jerry

Lewis, and Lisa Lampanelli, respectively. The

latter shares some physical and career -based

traits with another comedian, Roseanne Barr.

but come on producers why do you want to create

a character based off fucking lisa lampanelli

i'm sorry are you kidding me jesus christ what

the hell yeah i kind of have to agree with you

there i mean every time i've seen that chick

she is not funny she is vulgar as all hell and

she comes off like a half -dressed whore who

can't lay shit She makes you look like you speak

proper English. I do speak proper English. I

Mean when you're even when you're swearing shut

that up Anyway, she's not funny at all. I have

to know she's horrible So yes, I agree don't

ever use that name ever again. Nobody nobody

Jokers quote dying is easy Comedy is hard is

attributed to 19th century English actor Edmund

Keen Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff in this

Oh My god joker who's apparently in disguise

Hey, you hear about the guy walked into a doctor's

office with a frog in his head Doctor says that's

the weirdest looking wart. I've ever seen Frog

looks up and says yeah, I woke up this morning.

There was a big bump on my butt That makes no

sense at all yes, it does Because if you think

about it how a wart would grow on your finger

the bottom of the wart would be the warts ass

and Since it was on top of the guy's head ah

It makes sense Why do I feel like Joker here?

If you have to explain a joke, it's not funny,

Harley! Batman, you've hit a new low, Joker.

Only you would ruin three lives for a silly piece

of tin. You're dumber than you look, Bats! It's

not the trophy that matters, it's the title!

I am the greatest clown this dismal bug has ever

seen! What would the common folk do without my

pranks and antics? Let's find out. Yeah. Oh,

man. No, but this episode is really great. This

episode is very, very cool. I think I'm getting

sick. Stop trying to take over airplanes then,

Joker. And that was the Joker going to... Hurl.

Yes. Hurly. Wait, what does Elizabeth have to

do with this? Well, that's the name of the hospital

around here. Elizabeth Hurley was the bedazzled

and she was the original Fembot from Austin Palace.

Those are some bodacious tatas. Oh, we should

go on to the next episode before we drag this

down the right hole more than it's already gone

with Already mentioning lampanelli. See now who

can't talk English correctly who can't talk English.

Let's move on Last up tonight is... Deep Freeze!

Sounds like a Dairy Queen... snack. Anyways,

a large powerful robot breaks into Arkham Asylum

and into Mr. Freeze's cell. He tries to escape,

but the robot picks him up and places him inside

a compartment in its chest, then leaves as easily

as it came. Reviewing the security tape from

Freeze's cell, Batman thinks all that Freeze's

expression of fear is genuine, meaning someone

else is behind his escape. The robot immediately

puts Batman in mind of those produced by Cybertron.

Wow, and it's spelled exactly like the one from

Transformers. How is that not a plagiarism of

or a copyright infringement? So he and Robin

consult Carl Rossum who's retired Rossum says

the robot bears a slight significance to or resemblance

to some benign models he built for a Grant Walker

the famous theme park mogul Interesting very

very interesting um... i like this episode it

is a freeze episode uh... and it's paul deany

paul deany and bruce tim i'm actually gonna uh...

steal your uh... thunder here with continuity

because uh... mister freeze makes his first appearance

since his introduction in heart of ice Also,

it is revealed in the episode that Nora Freeze

survived the accident that created him. The reason

for this is that the creators were so proud of

what Heart of Ice accomplished that they wanted

to leave it as a standalone episode. They didn't

want to bring him back, but that's the reason.

And I don't mind, because again, Freeze is one

of those characters, kind of like Harvey. kinda

like Harley where the character development takes

over like Harvey, Two -Face has his storylines

Harley has her storylines slash origin stuff

and Mr. Freeze from Heart of Ice to Deep Freeze

to what will later become the creepiest friggin

thing in BTIS you know he has his storylines

and that's just Just amazing so I don't mind

the gap in you know from heart of ice to this

to not Not have a mr.. Freeze episode because

again Before they created him before well then

they created before they created a story for

him He was just a common thief in all other medium.

You know what I mean he had no No drive no ambition

no real story until Tim and Dini took it over

and actually gave him a really great story As

far as deep freeze goes again, love the animation.

I loved you know the overall story and what happens

very very cool Yeah, I I love the fact that they

brought him back And I like the fact that they

don't you know use them as their their scapegoat.

Yeah penguins for yes Yeah, so this episode I

think it's funny that Walker wants to be like

freeze. Yeah, and I just I Don't care if you

could be a mortal. There's no way in hell. I'd

want to be a frozen man in a suit. Oh My god,

I just realized something Grant Walker is just

like the moron in Batman Beyond who wants to

be ink Huh, huh, they they recycle well not really

but a Little bit they just they change the villain,

but the concept remains the same you You one

-trick pony you Hey Anyways, um no it all joking

aside. I really did like the concept and I like

the implementation of this episode and You know,

I like the fact that you know, they allude to

the fact freeze is invincible or immortal and

Yeah, just overall the episode was good I could

sit there and watch this one and actually enjoy

it. Oh Yeah, most definitely but freeze is one

of those characters where Like when I want a

goofy episode I watch the Joker when I want one

that invokes, you know thinking I want the Riddler

when I want a serious episode in Batman I want

mr. Freeze Yeah, I agree I agree I think if they

had found a way to do more with Catwoman Outside

of just making her a pawn in someone else's villain

scheme Like like if they actually explored the

Selena Bruce dynamic and and all that if they

explored it more than what they did I think Catwoman

could have been also one of those villains that

falls into a category of an episode that you

know, like you just said, you know, you watch

the Joker to laugh you watch Mr. Freeze to think

and you know, or you watch realtor to think and

you know, whatever else But no deep freeze was

was really Really, really awesome. Great episode.

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And we're back. So, in an overall rating, what

are your favorite episodes of the night? Lockup

has to be last. In last place I I enjoyed it,

but but again it reminded me too much of a bad

copy of Shawshank There isn't bad comedy Stupid

coronation It just it was a really really strange

bad knockoff of Shawshank Redemption. The Power

Mad Hungry Warden really had no character depth

at all. I would then go Second Chance because

I really did like the story that's leading up

to what's gonna happen in Judgment Day. I really

like that they're telling a story with Two -Face.

I would then go Harley Solidae because I like,

you know, again, character development with Harley.

And then Deep Freeze would be second, or second

from my favorite. Again, continuity and again,

storyline and, you know, dealing with Mr. Freeze.

And then number one would be make him laugh because

it was just, I mean, come on. That's all that

needs to be said about that episode. What about

you? I would have to say Lock Up is the bottom

of the barrel for me. I didn't get any kind of

attachment to the character. I'd have to say

Harley's Holiday would be the next one for me,

only for the fact that I did feel the touching...

Emotions for Harley's character. Yeah, but I

wouldn't say that I'd I'd sit there and care

to actually watch the episode again Only because

there's better episodes that we watched tonight

The next one I would have to say second chance

only because Well, I like to face But I like

the other characters more I but I do like the

fact that they're they're still playing the multiple

personality thing and continuing to his previous

Main storyline of of you know, two -phase part

one Yeah, and then like you said the judgment

worries three -phase. I mean Don't give it away.

They should have already seen this series. But

anyways, I know but yeah I I can see that but

he's one screwed up dude. He is very much so

The next one I'd have to say is deep freeze because

I I like mr. Freeze I just think his suits cool.

I think he's cool I can't understand why the

Walker guy would want to be like him but Overall

I'd say that was a really good nice serious episode

And then of course make them laugh because you

know, like you said the shaky rim shot the fact

it's the Joker kind of flying solo and You know

the fact that jokers stolen Mad Hatter's technology

and used it on Mad Hatter including the three

other comedians and Finally won his trophy at

the the turmoil to his character of Still not

ultimately getting his own way But I had to say

that was my number one I just thought of something

and I don't think this will ever happen, but

I want somebody to do a Remix of Shecky Rimshot

Sheck Sheck Sheck Shecky Rimshot That would be

hilarious a record skip yeah, that would be awesome

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