Theft of the Golden Disk Review

This is Megatron. This is the glorious Megatron.

And this episode of the Beast Unleashed podcast

features Stephen C. Phillips, Mike Blanchard,

and Michael Wilson. Hello, and welcome to the

world's first ever Beast Wars Beast Machines

Review podcast. This is the Beast Unleashed podcast

brought to you by the Geekcast Radio Network.

I am your host, TFG and Mike. I'm joined by Pecan

Court Michael. Hello. Hey, how's it going? And

Steve Megatron. We are going to be giving you,

the listeners, the insight to the newest Transformers

cartoon review podcast from the Geekcast Radio

Network. This was an idea that, like, I think

by episode 13 of TFG1, it was like, I know Steve

had me on all things Transformers episode 9 is

when we first started talking and collaborating

and all that stuff. And he asked me what was

after TFG1, and I said, honestly, I don't know.

I said, if I ever get any of the Beast cartoons,

maybe a Beast Machines podcast. And lo and behold,

one year later, here we are. Actually, it's very

funny. This will actually be released December

12, 2009, the one -year anniversary of when the

TFG1 podcast started. Go figure. Considering

the show was originally planned to be started

back in June of 2009. So, how are you guys? What's

going on with you, Steve? Well, happy to be back

into the daily grind of podcasting and websites

and all that other great stuff. Not really much

else. Nothing bad really going on. Just kind

of ready to do The Beast Unleashed. Talk turkey?

No, we had enough of that last month. Yes. And

you want to know how Megatron says it? Gobble,

gobble. Nicely done, sir. Yes. What have you

been up to, Michael? We just talked to you on

ToyCast, but that won't air until Monday, I believe.

Yeah, actually today my wife graduated from college

for her master's degree. Yay. Awesome. Yeah,

so we went out after she got home from her last

class, her final class, and celebrated a little

bit. That was nice. So she's actually now qualified

to be a principal. Oh, cool. If it came right

down to it. In fact, at her school, she is the

de facto principal in case the principal or the

vice principal is gone for the day. So it's,

I don't know, a nice thing to put on the resume,

I suppose. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. As far as I'm

concerned, you know, people have heard ToonCast

episode 28, which was released yesterday. Well,

as of this recording, it was released Wednesday

of this week. And this evening I went out to

Walmart and Target looking for some new Transformers

toys. I was specifically looking for another

Voyager Prime, and I was wanting Voyager Blitzwing.

Don't ask me why. I saw a review of it, and I

like the robot mode. He's sharp. Yeah. And I've

kind of found a way around this. If you turn

on his arms, if you turn the wing panels like

they're facing his arms and the wings are basically

facing up and down, it's not so bad. But if you

have them facing the back of it, it kind of sucks

in the robot mode. But the robot mode is the

only thing I like about it. I don't like the

alt modes whatsoever. Who are we talking about?

Blitzwing. Oh, you got a Blitzwing? Blitzwing,

yes. Oh, cool. Yep. Good find. Yes. I found Blitzwing,

and I found Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime. Fortunately,

when I got Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime home,

and the only thing I really bought him for was

his axe, it does not fit in Voyager Prime 10.

Wow. I could shave some stuff off, but, you know.

Crazy glue. Yeah, I'm not a toy. Kid basher.

Kid basher, yeah. Rubber bands. It's actually

very funny. I went to Walmart. The Voyagers,

not the Voyagers, the Deluxes there, they restocked

everything. They had at least six of each of

electrostatic sound wave and freeway jazz. Unfortunately,

I don't like either of those. But, whatever.

Unfortunately, I went to Target immediately after

I went to Walmart. And, well, Walmart had the

deluxes for $11 .88. Target had them for $8 .44.

Wow. So, yeah. But anyway, I'm kind of happy

about it. Excuse me, I've got to go to Target.

No, you don't. You've already stolen at Target,

boys. Thank you very much. That's why I've got

to go. I've got to steal some more. You've got

to catch them all. Wow, that was a bad pun. That

was. Bad pun. That was Armada. Oh, okay. Armada,

the Pokemon of the Transformers. Yes, yes, really.

Actually, it's unfortunate. I'm kind of pissed

at the Blitzwing toy right now because when I

got him out of the box... Didn't realize, after

I unscrewed all the wires that I thought needed

to be unscrewed, there's actually a wire inside

of the damn toy. I literally almost ripped my

fingernail completely out of the package. I laugh

at your pain. Shut the fuck up. Point and laugh,

point and laugh. So, I... eventually got it all...

I actually had to transform him into robot mode

to get the wire off of his damn body. Nice. I

have no idea why. And when I tried transforming

Cybertron Mode Optimus, he, like my Blur, when

I first got Blur, Cybertron Mode Optimus is now

a paraplegic. That's not... Save it for ToyCast.

Yes, I know, I know. So yes, the Beast Unleashed

podcast, we will have 30 episodes covering both

Beast Wars and Beast Machines. We already have

one voice actor interview, that is the interview

of David Kaye that Steve and I had already done

previously to this recording, which will be featured

on the feed and the website the same day this

goes up. Excuse me. Unless I feel like being

mean and making them wait until Saturday. No,

that's the point. Both of them are going up Saturday.

No, this one goes up Friday. No, this one goes

up Saturday because that's the one -year anniversary

since the whole plan, man. It won't be a year

later. The plan's staying. It's a year later.

Anyway. I was going to go into Toshi Station

and pick up some power converters. Shut up. Shut

up, Luke Skywalker. Why do you bitch Luke is

what that would be. Yes, exactly. The plan for

this show is you're going to get, the listeners

are going to get an episode every other week.

At this point, we have not... What? Go ahead.

What? Sorry. I didn't say anything. Oh, I wasn't

saying... Shut up! At this point, we have not

determined what day the episodes will be released.

It just depends on when we can actually record

them the week before. It's that day that ends

in Y. It would be all of them, so technically

we could do one a day and have the show done

by, say, March. If we could keep them short enough,

that would be kind of cool. No, we're not doing

that, no. That'd be exhausting. Too much production

work. Production work? What the fuck are you

talking about? I do all the... Actually, you

only do the artwork. Yeah, but I have to put

them online. Genius. You always say, oh, it's

not a bother to put them online. It's nothing.

Well, I've got to do the RSS feed, and then I've

got to put them on the freaking... Information

to put in the RSS feed, man. Yeah, I know you

type it. Yeah, exactly. That's because I'm lazy.

Well, just copy and paste it. It still takes

work. This is like the... Before we get anything

done here, before we even begin, let's get all

of the behind -the -scenes action out of the

way. First, we're going to talk about the production

operations that go into building the Beast Unleashed.

Yeah, well, we've covered that. Yes, thank you.

All right, well, we are going to get into...

Actually, it's funny, I... Steve... in the episode

0, instead of just going on and on like we are

now, why don't we actually review something,

seeing as how episode 1 will not be until January

2010, and I said why don't we start with The

Theft of the Golden Disk. So you will hear our

discussion on that next. So, The Theft of the

Golden Disk. Steve, you want to give us some

background information on this thing? Sure. Yes,

this episode starts out with an introduction

by Cryotech, who is basically a big gangster

kind of entity within the Cybertronian race.

He's a... basically from the old Decepticons

and now Predacons. And, well, basically what

he's after is stealing the Golden Disk, in which

he entrusts this mission onto his star pupil,

who is his little basically bitch to start out

with, his Megatron. And he wants him, along with

his other Predacons, to go... Five's golden disc

and basically bring it back to him. And Megatron

and Cryotech are basically having power plays

against each other throughout this episode on

who's going to betray who and succeed. So basically

it goes off to the part with Megatron and his

group going to the power plant. Part of them

are attacking the... A few Maximals, there's

a couple Predacons on Cryotech's side who are

basically in it to set up Megatron to fail. Of

course, Megatron's group quickly disposes of

them and furthermore frames them and Megatron

basically ends up with the Golden Disk and a

Cryotech ends up arrested by the end of it, screaming

Megatron's name. And, yeah, so this is basically

the very first direct episode of The Beast Wars,

even though it's not physically in the show,

and it is for the BotCon 2006 year. Mm -hmm.

Actually, I think it's BotCon 2007, my fault.

No, I think it was 06, Dawn of Future's Past.

Yeah. Oh, it says original air date is July 1st

at BotCon 2007. That's odd. No, it was 2006.

It was basically the pre -Beast War bodies of

the crew of the Axalon. Well, and Dinobot. Yeah,

that was for the... Dawn of Futures Past, which

was the 2006 BotCon, this physical video came

out a year later, I believe, but it was kind

of rushed, so they didn't have time to actually

sync it up with the designs from the Dawn of

Futures Past comic book. Well, I mean, it looks

pretty close. I mean, the designs are the same

for Dinobot. The designs are the same for Waspinator,

who was released at the 2006 BotCon. Yeah. Him

and Megatron and Dinobot, at least. And that

clocker mold was used for Cheetor and... Tigatron.

Yeah, for both of them. And they used that a

whole lot for... Well, they basically said that...

I know they said Tigatron was one of the Maxcom

Force. Yep. Yeah, and they... Basically all of

the security guards or police officers or whatever

in here were all in that clocker mold. Which

is neat. I mean, it was cool to be able to spot

who was in which mold. Like Cryotech is clearly

Energon Shockblast. Which actually fits his character.

Yeah, it was very cool. I mean, I think I would

have preferred to see something more... Like,

you know, the Transmetal 2 dragon. But, you know,

they're not going to do that for a pre -Beast

Wars figure. Well, eventually. Yeah, well, Cryotech

eventually ends up with that form in the universe

comics. Well, yeah, they created a figure for

him. But he also gets that form of the dragon.

Yeah, yeah. No, the... God, I forget which year

Cryotech came out. But, yeah, he was in the Universe

Land. Yeah, when I first saw him, I was like,

who the hell is this guy? No, seriously, because,

alright, as I've said before, I've seen Beast

Wars, but I never actually saw this until Steve

pointed it out to me. You know, of course, after

seeing Beast Wars, I know, you know... Megatron

and all that stuff. As far as Cryotech goes,

why does he remind me of Calypso from the Twisted

Metal video games? He sounds just like him. I've

never played that game. I've never played it

either. You said that he sounds just like him?

A little bit, yeah. Yeah, this guy, he... I believe

it's Frank Todaro that did Cryotech. I could

be wrong. I'm looking that up on the wiki right

now. But he, no, it's actually Brad Venerable.

He's done Transformer fan dub work on tfcog .net.

Okay. So I've actually worked with some of these

people on fan dubs. Yeah. No, if you, and I know

Michael won't do this, but Steve, if you go back

and listen to our, the end of our Geekcast Radio

Episode 5, the Top 50 thing, I put Twisted Metal

audio in there for those games when I was talking

about them in that episode, so you can hear Lipso's

voice in that. And of course, whoever's going

to be listening to this show will know who I'm

talking about if you've played the Twisted Metal

games. But yeah, and we were talking about this

off the air, and you guys started... Basically

ribbing me on it, because I wasn't for sure,

because I had never seen this before. I said,

in one of my notes, is Dinobot in this? Because

there's no voice credit for him, because he doesn't

speak. And I just wasn't sure. I was like, okay,

I see the shield twirly thing, and I see the

sword, and I see the colors, and I see the blue

face, and I see the teeth, but I'm just not sure.

And yes, he is in this. Yeah, he was the third

character shown, besides, if you don't count

the diagnostic drone. Yeah. I find it very funny

that they show the diagnostic drone in this.

Now, see, actually, they have a lot of references

in this 10 -minute video. There's a lot of Generation

1 sounds and references to the dawn of futures

past. You get the statue. of Optimus Prime in

front of the buildings, the diagnostic drone

from Beast Machines. Behind Cryo -Tech in a couple

scenes, you'll see the V -Icon symbol as well

as a motorcycle drone on the screen behind it.

I actually had found that out through the wiki

and went back and watched it, and it is clearly

in there. There are a couple other Easter eggs,

like a statue of Antagony, which is a BotCon

figure, basically a female Inferno. and J -Axis

from the Generation 2 comics. There's Cyber Planet

Key, Replica of the Matrix, a couple little Pretender

things, and, yeah, so, I mean, there's a lot

of little references to other aspects of Beast

Wars and Beast Machines hidden in there. Yeah,

I definitely picked out that Null Ray sound when

they were doing some of the battling, Starscream's

Null Ray sound in it. Yeah. I was wondering who

the female statue was. For some reason, I was

thinking it was Blackarachnia. I'm thinking,

why is she there? That makes no sense. Yes. I

would like to have seen... I mean, I know this

is just a 12 -minute preview thing or whatever,

kind of giving a little bit of history before

the Beast Wars cartoon or the comic or whatever,

but I would have liked to have seen what... Take

the characters from Beast Wars and take, like,

the first five minutes of the first episode and

have them on Cybertron, like, getting to the

ship to chase Megatron. Because, you know, I'll

get to that once we get to that episode next

time we're recording, but I would like to have

seen something with them on Cybertron before

they go to Earth. Yeah, that's essentially what

I want to say what the comic book is. Yeah. Yeah,

that's basically what the comic book is, but

you never actually see much of the Maximals following

Megatron until they're actually in their ships.

Right. In the cockpit, a very dark cockpit. You

can basically just see their faces. Yeah. And

it was actually only the only character that

you actually see without a beast form in the

very first episode. The whole body is Megatron.

Oh, yeah, when they're in the ship. Yep, and

it's kind of dark, so you can't really see too

much detail, but you can see enough to where

they actually made that Megatron's actual form

and the form you see in this video clip, and

that was the Bakan toy. It's actually like a

powered -up armor, kind of like how Power Master

Prime is. Oh. I was going to say like an Ultra

Magnus almost. Yeah, basically. Megatron in Theft

of the Golden Disk, David Kaye, I don't know

how long it was. Well, no, it was after Beast

Wars had even aired. Yeah, because, I mean, this

is almost seven years later. Yeah, he sounds,

like, really young in this, though, for the Megatron

voice. But they didn't have as much of the audio

editing as they did in the Beast Wars. Obviously,

he's aged, so the voice isn't going to be exact.

But it actually does kind of fit with this because

it's not as dark -toned as this Beast Machines

version. It does sound younger, so I see what

you're saying there. Which, if you're doing a

prequel, that's good. I'm not complaining about

it, but when I first heard it, I'm like, what?

That's Megatron? No, that's not Megatron. Even

though I knew it was, I was like, what the heck's

up with his voice? I didn't realize it was David

Kaye. I thought maybe they had somebody, or maybe

they've got Steve doing his best Megatron impersonation.

It's actually very funny that you mention that,

Michael, because I actually brought up the fact

to Mr. Kaye that Steve does impersonate his Megatron

voice, and what did he tell you, Megatron? Uh,

He basically told me that it's the best impersonation

and best Megatron copy that he's ever heard.

Nice. Yep. Straight from the source. Yes. Do

we have anything else that we want to bring up?

Other than the only errors they had in this.

I mean, it's kind of crazy to have errors in

a 10 -minute clip. You know, there's a whole

other comic and then a whole series on, but Scorponok,

Pterosaur, and Tarantulas have different bodies

than they do in the comic following these events.

But that had to do with lack of production time.

So they just kind of used old models of animation

to make it easier on them. I liked... I liked

Buzz Bomb. The way they used... Oh, what was

that? Armada Cyclonus? I should say the... I

think Armada Cyclonus popped up twice in there.

Once is the Buzz Bomb remold, and then once is

some random Predacon getting shot up. So technically,

outside of the actual letting us know how...

the theft of the gold happened, this is basically

one giant, really one giant toy commercial outside

of the actual cartoon. Well, there's no toys

of these. I mean, aside from Dinobot and Megatron,

which were, well, and Waspinator, which were

BotCon exclusives and probably very hard to wrangle,

the rest of these are not really toys. But you

just said that they're from... Well, they're

still from other eras. Yeah, I mean, they took

the, I don't want to say the mold, but they made

3D models of existing toys, but they gave them

different heads. It's almost like you would almost

expect some of these characters to pop up again

at a BotCon. If they said, well, let's revisit

Dawn of Futures Past, and let's create a pterosaur,

and we'll create a backslash. and we'll create

a Scorponok or a stylized repaint of Storm Surge

or something. Okay. I could see that. I would

kill for a toy of this Megatron, even though

it's just a Cybertron figure repaint in a slight

remold. Cybertron Defense Red Alert, I think

it was. Yep. I should send pictures of mine.

You suck. Oh, you didn't go to BotCon that year?

What the hell? I can't afford to. Oh, I'm sad.

Where was it in 2006? It was... Rhode Island.

Was it Rhode Island that year? No, that was 2007.

No, 2006 it was in Lexington, Kentucky. Woo -hoo!

Yeah, you could have went. I was going to go

to that one, but short of price and all that,

yeah, I couldn't go because of the price. Oh,

yeah, we flew in. That was so bad. If I had known

you then, we could have hooked up for dinner

or something. Yeah, you bastard. Sorry. I actually,

as a treat for the listeners, because I wasn't

sure how to approach the episode zero outside

of us just shooting the shit about how the show

was going to play out. And this is before I even

had the idea to actually talk about the comic

and the theft of the golden disc. When I watched

it for, like, the third time this afternoon,

I actually, as I was watching it, I ripped the

audio from it. So that is what they will hear

after this discussion, some ads, and then the

outro and the closing music. As far as the audio

for the intro -outro... The way I'm going to

do that is for season one of Beast Wars, it'll

have the season one intro -outro from the show.

Even though they don't change that much between

the three seasons, there are slight changes.

Like in the first season's intro, you can hear,

or the first season's outro, you can hear a lot

of the sound effects, like the blasts and everything

else. In the second season's one, you can hear

significantly more music and less sound effects.

for the outro, so I'm going to change it up each

time we switch from a season to a season. Yeah.

Do you guys have any other thoughts before I...

I do. You do? To Steve? Other than they finally

have a total count of how many times Megatron

says yes and no throughout the series. That's

got to be on the wiki somewhere. Yeah, he says...

Yeah, that's where I found it. I've actually

seen the video, though. It says Megatron says

yes 166 times and no 54 times. And it says, ironically,

for someone who said yes so much, his last line

in the series was no. Oh, that's right. When

he's screaming when Prime... Okay, yeah. Yeah,

we will get... When Rhinox rams him and then

when he's on the back of the ship. But, of course,

I'm... Cutting to the end of the show, so...

Yeah. You're giving it all away. Wait, you mean...

Spoiler. ...not the beginning of... Nemesis.

Okay, yeah. That's Beast Wars only. I'm not counting

Beast Machines because he's kind of taken on

a different, slightly different role. Yeah, but

not really. It's still Megatron. Did you know

that originally Hasbro intended to wipe out Megatron's

body and make him be reformatted as Inferno?

What? Why? That was according to a 1997 interview.

Wow. See, now, even back then, they really knew

how to screw up a character. Yeah, they almost

did, too. If they would have put him as Inferno,

never would have liked the character again. That

would have been it, yeah. I would have been like,

that's it, I'm done. I give up. Sorry to interrupt

you guys. We should mention that I have gotten

tons during my 48 -hour marathon of watching

Beast Wars for pure enjoyment because I hadn't

actually watched it before all the way through

at once for pure enjoyment. I got clean grabs

from each episode. Not really, you know, just

like... Good images that I think would make good

art. So each podcast episode will have a new

art image each time we do an episode. So that's

a plus for the iTunes and RSS feed people. Yes.

So we will be right back. Podcast good. Come

forward. I've called you here in regard to a

little -known artifact called the Golden Disk,

a seemingly insignificant scrap of metal made

by a small, frail species hardly worth mentioning.

And yet, this object holds the key to the conquest

of the whole of Cybertron. Of over 300 cycles,

the Golden Disk has carried the mystery of incredible

power under its shimmering surface. I could tell

you the tales of a thousand Maximals and Predacons

who have hunted this dark relic. Every story

has the same ending. Destruction. I've nothing

but faith in you, Megatron. In fact, I'm as fond

of you as if you were my own son. The plan to

recover the Golden Disk is daring. Ambitious.

I might even say brilliant. After all, it is

my idea. My agents have, let's just say... stumble

to the ship you need. More importantly, they

have identified the data archive that contains

all the information the Maximals have on the

disk, including its current location. Don't forget,

Megatron, you may retrieve the Datacon, but only

I can decode it. Of course, Cryo -Tech. Take

care, my pupil. You know what to do. Backslash.

and security web. I would be troubled. Team Alpha,

let us bring down the lights. Yes. Consider it

done. You haven't heard that? Now who needs to

watch that back? The security grid is down. Quickly,

before emergency power kicks in. Transmission

on private frequency X9. Acknowledged. And go

to transmission received. Commencing full decryption.

Time to completion. 3 .25 cycles. Megatron! the

disc in my hands. What about the Maximals? Who

do you think called them? With the archive destroyed,

there will be no evidence to implicate me. And

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Tune in. We are back, and apparently Mr. Wilson

had some stuff he still wanted to talk about,

so... I've got to get this off my chest here,

because I'm just confused, and I thought maybe

you guys would shed some light on this. Basically,

the plan to steal the Golden Disc... was to split

up into three teams. And the first team of Megatron

and Dinobot and Dirge was to secure the data

chip. And the second team, which was Scorponok

and Backslash, was to cut the power so that Team

1 could then get inside without being noticed.

And Team 3, which was Waspinator, Pterosaur,

and Buzzbomb, were supposed to steal transport,

supposed to steal the dark side. As far as we

could tell, that was their job. Yes. So each

team had a Cryotech Patsy, Team 1 had Dirge,

Team 2 had Backslash, and Team 3 had Buzzbomb.

And in each case, they kind of got theirs, right?

Leaving pretty much just the core Predacon crew

at the dark side. Oh, and then there's Tarantulas,

who basically... intercepts the transmission

from Megatron and cackles. Yes. Yeah, it was

just cool. I wasn't really sure what that was

signifying, but what was the point for Team 3

to steal the dark side? I can understand if Megatron

says, I'm going to steal this disc, and I've

got to get the hell off the planet. And I can

understand if he says, I need this ship. Or,

you know, I think the way it was told later,

Waspinator and Pterosaur just kind of show up

with the ship and say, look what we got you.

And Megatron's like, wow, this is really nice.

I think that's in the comic. Yeah. Where Megatron's

like, wow, this is much better than I expected

as a getaway ship, which is cool, but why would

that team be sanctioned by Cryotech? Why put

Buzzbomb in there? What did Cryotech think that

they were stealing the ship for? Steve would

have to talk about this because, honestly, I

have no clue. Well, I mean, maybe I think that

the idea there was for them just to go in and

shoot up the Predacon base. And maybe just a

byproduct of that was, hey, the ship happens

to be here. But, I mean, was that supposed to

be a diversion? And if so, why attack the Predacon

base? Why not attack the Maximal base? I mean,

it's kind of like shooting your own guys. It

just didn't make any sense to me. I think that

was just a group sanctioned by Megatron, and

I think that they just kind of, I think that

maybe Terror Sword and Waspinator knew about

it, and Buzz Bomb probably was just sent with

them, and just kind of, you know, because he

seems more like a crony anyway, more than those

guys did. Right. Well, they ended up killing

him, though. Yeah, Terror Sword shot him in the

back and left him to die. But, yeah, they used

that as their getaway vehicle. I think Megatron

initially, when he was being told of the Golden

Disk, already had his plan set up to backstab

Cryotech, just like Cryotech had a plan at the

same time to backstab Megatron, only Megatron

beat him to it. And Tarantulas' sole purpose

was to decode the data chip to find the location

of the Golden Disk so Megatron could steal it.

instead of having to go back to Cryo -Tech, which

is what Cryo -Tech wanted. Right. And instead,

Cryo -Tech got the homemade signal. Yes, because

Megatron is freaking awesome for that. He's freaking

awesome. It's very funny. I know a lot of people,

sometimes some people don't like to watch through

credits, but when I was getting, because I wanted,

I love the outro music to this. It's... Like,

it's almost like the classic G1 theme, but it's,

like, in a slightly different musical tone. But

at the very end of it, Cryotek's like, I want

my lawyer. Yeah, it says, I wish to speak to

my lawyer. It's right after the closing credits.

Yeah, that was the memorable clip for the thing.

But, yeah, it says that the full version of the

theft... was put up on YouTube and embedded on

the official Transformer Collectors Club. Wow,

that's a mouthful. In January of... And then

it says the YouTube version also contains an

extra scene in the BotCon reel, and it was the

shot of the Darkseid in the hangar with Terrorsaur,

Waspinator, and Buzzbomb when they took it over.

It says that the ship was never actually appeared

in the original version. Yeah, I think Buzzbomb

was dead by then. It was just Waspinator and

Terrorsaur taking the ship. Yeah, they're awesome

like that. But, yeah, I definitely did like the

ending credits that they used, like the remix

of the original G1 music. Yeah, yeah, that was

pretty awesome. So I guess, okay, now do we have

any more other thoughts that we want to discuss

before I close this out? No, I think that's it.

I think we're good. Well, yeah, I had one question.

I wasn't sure if there actually was a cyberjet

of Dirge, and I don't think there was. I think

that might have been even a Beast Wars 2 release.

Oh, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, in Beast

Wars 2 there was a, yeah. Okay, you're right.

Yeah, because I'm actually looking at the G2

page on Transformer Land right now, and no, there

was Air Raid, Hooligan, Jetfire, Skyjack, Space

Case, and Strafe. But no Dirge. And no, the Dirge

was the Beast Wars 2 release in the Cyberjet.

Which is cool, because I knew I had one, I just

couldn't remember where it came from. I would

say you have everything, but that's incorrect.

Proto Man has everything. I think Proto Man comes

pretty close. He's got a lot of the, well, I

want to say, whereas I have a lot of the old

stuff, like Complete Series from 84, 85, 86,

87, I think he's got a lot of the new stuff,

especially some of the really hard -to -find

things out of Japan. Well, he's got a lot of

hard -to -find things out of Japan, but he has,

he told me one night after a record, we actually

went on video on Skype and we were showing each

other, different stuff like, I don't know, Mighty

Mugs and whatever else. I don't know. But he

said to me that he has three out of, like, six

rooms in his house are filled to the brim with

Transformers. Yeah, my wife wouldn't let me do

that. Yeah, I know. Mine either. So, yeah. Yeah,

I get one room. Yes, I think we're going to close

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