Halloween Spotlight: Carrie (1976)

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is the Comic Concierge. Hello, Dan. Hello. Although,

should it be the Halloween Concierge? Yeah. You're

getting into more horror films. Our recording

software is making Halloween sounds when we hit

record. We have episode 266 in the year 2026,

and we're covering a film from 1976. It's a lot

of sixes, Dan. I don't know what we're doing

here. No. I mean, next week we're doing The Exorcist.

Spoiler alert. So maybe we should have waited.

I don't know. Or done that this week. But, you

know, we're getting kind of close there because

there's a little bit demonic themes in Carrie,

too. Right. Absolutely. There's definitely some

religious. uh strings being pulled here um and

whatnot so yeah we're doing some horror films

you guys already saw us put an episode out about

the texas chainsaw massacre today we are covering

that 1976 film carry we're going to do the exorcist

next and then we'll have one more after that

so it's going to be some uh we're getting in

the spirit of the spooky season maybe not as

much as you did last year dan how many horror

films did you watch last october last october

i did 27. uh and you're so close i was so close

yeah i just ran out uh right now i'm actually

my you know the good thing about horror films

is that there's a lot of short ones especially

like classic ones that sometimes are an hour

like this is perfect uh as we're recording this

i am 14 15 movies in so yeah if i can keep that

up I mean, we're recording this about, like,

what? I don't even know what today's date is.

Not the date, but the 7th. So, yeah, I don't

know. You might get to 60 of them. We'll see.

We'll see. I'm just trying to get that 31. So

far, I've done this all but one of the Screams.

Okay. And a couple of the Purge movies. Is the

one that you haven't done of the Scream the one

from this year? Yeah, I just haven't seen that

one yet. Which, by the way, Dan, it was free

on one of the services we subscribe to. for like

the entire summer and then i checked it now that

we're in october and it's no longer free i missed

my chance to watch it now i gotta pay for it

what's going on here probably 99 now or something

instead of free i'm like what the heck they knew

it was halloween season yeah and also it's a

it's annoying when it's like all the other ones

are unavailable on platforms except for like

one and two over here three and four like can't

we all just beyond like if you're the same franchise

on the same platform but i gotta know once i

should have been prepared because i did my scream

ranking last year when i watched them all i'd

be curious to see how how close mine is to yours

and kind of where we differ on that i definitely

had a clear couple at the bottom and a clear

couple at the top and i was really torn on some

of the ones in the middle so yeah i will say

i overall like so far i don't think i've read

or watched a bad like awful screen movie i think

they're open and I was actually surprised by

a few of them. Yeah, absolutely. So this is a

first -time watch for both of us today. So just

to get us ready for it, we're going to let Dan

lay out the facts for you guys and us, and then

we'll come back with our opinions on what we

felt about this, one of the most classic horror

films out there. This is why sex education in

school is important, because this week we continue

our horror spotlight with a look at Carrie from

1974, directed by Brian De Palma, based upon

the Stephen King novel. It stars Jesse Spacek

as Carrie White, who's a shy, unpopular high

school student raised by an extremely religious

mother, who teaches her that ordinary aspects

of growing up are sinful. When Carrie experiences

her first period in the school shower, she has

no idea what is happening and panic. Her classmates

cruelly mock her and throw sanitary products

at her while a teacher tries to restore order.

The incident becomes a defining moment for Carrie

as it exposes her to the cruelty of her classmates.

At home, her mother responds to Carrie's development

by punishing her and forcing her to pray in a

small closet. However, doing so, Carrie gradually

discovers that she possesses abilities, allowing

her to move objects with her mind. As she experiments

with these powers, she begins to gain confidence

and realizes that she may have control over something

in her life for the first time. Meanwhile, one

of Carrie's classmates, Sue, feels guilty about

participating in the bullying and attempts to

make amends. She persuades her boyfriend, Tommy,

to invite Carrie to the school prom in her place.

Carrie is unsure about the invitation, especially

because her mother believes that the prom is

sinful. Nevertheless, Carrie decides to attend,

hoping that she might finally experience the

happiness and be accepted like she always wanted.

Unfortunately, other classmates' Chris is determined

to humiliate Carrie after being punished for

her role in the earlier bullying. Chris conspires

with her boyfriend to rig the prom's voting so

that Carrie and Tommy will be crowned king and

queen. They secretly prepare a bucket of pig's

blood above the stage. intending to dump it on

Carrie in front of the entire school. At the

prom, Carrie experiences a brief moment of happiness,

and she dances with Tommy and his crowned queen.

But the celebration turns into a nightmare when

the blood is dumped over her head. The students

erupt in laughter, and Carrie is believing that

everyone is mocking her, suffers a complete emotional

breakdown. Her powers erupt violently, and she

begins attacking the crowd, trapping students

inside the gym as it catches fire. Carrie leaves

the school and returns home, but the horror is

far from over. Margaret, her mother, convinced

that her daughter has become evil, attempts to

kill her. The confrontation leads to a final

devastating struggle between mother and daughter.

The film concludes with a haunting scene that

suggests Carrie has been the permanent source

of trauma for those left behind. Even after her

death, the emotional scars from prom night and

the massacre that occurred continue to haunt

the survivors. Sissy Spacek wanted Carrie to

feel like a genuine outsider. She approached

Carrie in a deep, lonely, awkward teenager rather

than this conventional horror heroine. Her appearance

was unglamorous with pale makeup, straight hair,

and a withdrawal physical presence. She also

reportedly slept on a mattress in a corner of

the production office to get her feeling like

she was isolated just like Carrie. The blood

poured on Carrie was actually a mixture of corn

syrup and red food coloring rather than actual

pig's blood, so thank goodness there. Unfortunately,

the syrup became incredibly sticky as it dried,

making the costume and makeup uncomfortable to

work in. King reportedly only received $2 ,500

for the film rights for Carrie, his first published

novel. Despite that modest sum, the adaptation

became a huge commercial success, showing that

his work can translate well to the big screen.

The original Carrie is both a success critically

and financially. It earned two Oscar nominations,

Best Actress for Sissy Spacek and Best Supporting

Actress for Piper Laurie, who played her mother.

It earned around $33 .8 million on a $1 .8 million

budget, so great turnover there as well. But

what do Kevin and I think? Back to us to discuss.

All right, thanks for that, Dan. You've set the

stage well for us, pun intended, for Carrie from

1976. So I'm curious first, before we get into

anything, we did talk about you having seen like

some sort of a remake. was this the one that

you said you didn't remember anything about or

what was your opinion on the remake before we

get to this one so yeah some uh history for cinema

geeks one of our back when we were like three

names ago when we were at mri weekly uh when

one of our first episodes was the uh remake of

perry and i think so i think i saw that in theaters

because we talked about it i don't know if you

did or if it was just kevin and not kevin and

i but uh mike powers who's yeah so i was on the

episode it was you myself and michael powers

and then when we get to the carry discussion

i disappear for like 15 20 minutes and then i

come back after that and that was exactly uh

not quite to the day because that came out on

october 21st i don't know exactly when this one

will actually hit the airwaves but it was 13

years ago so another interesting number session

yeah I remember, you know, parts, again, it's

13 years ago and I have not seen it since. So,

but I just, I remember more so recording on episodes

than I do the movie itself. But so going into

this, and I knew like Carrie's in the zeitgeist,

I think. I remember watching like one of those

VH1, like 70s, like, you know, that's so 70,

whatever that was, that show that they talked

about Carrie. And I, you know, being a Stephen

King fan, I'm aware of the general story. that

that's happening here. And even there's, we were

talking about screaming the references to carry

as well. So I do wonder if that was like impacting

my going into this kind of knowing kind of all

the beats before I'm even watching it. It's never

a great way of watching a movie. Sometimes not

that like spoilers tend to bother me, but when

you have a good sense of like where everything's

going before you've ever watched a movie, sometimes

it make it not the best experience, but in a

lot of ways, like, My thought of this is similar

to my thoughts of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, although

I think this holds up even less because, one,

we mentioned with Chainsaw Massacre, it's an

extremely low budget, so you can kind of, it's

rough around the edges, helps it a bit. This

wasn't, you know, this isn't, you know, a huge

blockbuster by any stretch of the imagination,

but it's far more of a professional production.

And Brandon Palmer does, like, direct the hell

of it. hell out of it especially when we get

to like the the climax but i do think they're

similar to texas chainsaw massacre you have some

legit actors here of course actors that will

go on to have some impressive careers like sissy

spacek and john travolta but i the acting again

it's a teen movie of the 70s so maybe it was

on par with those at the time but not the greatest

per se people are a bit over the top with everything

that's happening. I know that can often happen

with Stephen King movies, books, and stories

already. I love the finale. Well done. It's impressively

made. I try to meet a movie where it's at, but

the big highlight I have for this is that it

just didn't hold up all that well for me. Acting

performance -wise, at least the story itself

is decent. we mentioned with Texas Chainsaw Massacre

like you don't really know any of the characters

that's not an issue here I think you actually

do get a good sense of the characters and there

is an element of tragedy considering like Carrie

thinks everyone's against her and that wasn't

necessarily the case but beyond all that I don't

know this wasn't one to me that there's those

horror films like I've gone back to that are

classics that I'm like oh wow this is still great

I'm not saying the remake was better but I'm

not I'm also saying like this was not one that

I would say you need to do everything you can

go back to. It's just one that I feel like has

not aged well, in my opinion, performance -wise.

It's just, I want to say slog, but very close

to being a slog for me. How about you? What were

your takeaways from this one? So this was one

I was, and I thought that going through this

that, you know, my wife is a pretty big horror

film fan, and I thought, like, there's probably

going to be, she was probably going to be all

about the fact that I was watching some of these

and want to watch them. with me and whatnot and

when i mentioned that carrie was the one that

we were doing for this week she actually her

reaction was that i could probably watch it by

myself and that um she finds it overly boring

and wasn't too interested in and watching it

again and so that was what i was going into it

with i was like oh even my wife the horror fan

isn't liking this one and i was questioning i

had just watched texas chainsaw massacre the

day before and i was questioning what i let you

sign me up for and what i had agreed to to do

this after the planet i mean this we're gonna

end this podcast you know playing other apes

movies this it's you know but um but i was like

you know whatever i'm gonna watch it because

i need to watch it i've never seen it etc etc

the only thing i knew about it was you know obviously

the blood sequence That's the only thing that

was spoiled for me about this film. I was literally,

what's the phrase? I was today years old when

I discovered that John Travolta was in this film.

That I didn't know. I didn't know either. I was

like, what is John Travolta doing here? Not much

was spoiled for me for the film, but I guess

I'm going to blow your mind a little bit here

because I actually enjoyed this film. a hundred

times more than the Texas Chainsaw Massacre wow

you did I thought like as I was watching us I'm

like oh Kevin's gonna hate this so I'm happy

you know that you enjoyed it that's great yeah

so a couple things that I I appreciated about

this was number one and maybe this is just coming

off of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre which I really

was not a big fan of like I appreciate it but

like I wasn't a big fan of it and one of the

major problems I had with that film was I felt

like I never really connected with any of the

characters and I don't feel like that's the problem

here. Like, yeah, I felt like I knew the characters

fairly well. Like, yeah. So in any type of high

school centric film, you're going to have layers,

right? Like you're going to have those that you

get to know decent amount. You're going to get

to those that, you know, a little bit, and then

you're going to have like the peripheral characters

around the outside edges. And like, that's to

be expected. But I felt like I had a good idea

for most of the characters, maybe not every single

one, but like most of them. And so that I appreciated.

And I think the second thing I actually kind

of was drawn to in this one is in a, this is

going to be a weird, weird analogy or connection,

but in a similar way that I liked the original

planet of the apes, I felt like this is in like,

that one is a fantasy sci -fi package that deals

with a lot of bigger themes. And I felt like

this is a horror. suspense package that deals

with a lot of bigger themes. And I guess I appreciated

that part of it. Like there's, you know, the

puberty and sexuality aspect of it. There's obviously

some religious undertones there's, which may

be the weakest part of the film, but, but whatever,

but they're there. Right. And they're, they're

talking about it. There's like this bullying

aspect of it. There's shame, there's revenge,

there's social acceptance. There's. all of these

like teenage rage female adolescents like there's

a lot of different themes and topics that they're

delving into some more than others some maybe

not as much as they could have you know but decent

amount in a lot of them and so i kind of appreciated

that they were at least going to that because

i was expecting it to be much more surface like

superficial and surface level type stuff and

i felt like they got a little deeper into some

of the stuff than i expected them to do so I

think I was connected more with the characters

and then I was enjoying like some of the stuff

that they were digging into in a little bit.

And all that does not mean that entire film worked

for me or that I enjoyed like every second. I

do feel like it went by very similar to Texas

Chainsaw Massacre for me. They're both about

the same runtime, I believe like 83 minutes.

And I guess this one's like 15 minutes longer,

but I felt like both of them for me went by fairly

quickly. Like I'd never felt. Like I know you

mentioned that being a slog and my wife kind

of echoed your sentiment. I didn't get that feeling

while I was watching it. So I guess I was invested

enough where I was just like waiting to see like

where they were going to go next. So overall,

I enjoyed my experience with it. What some things

that I didn't necessarily care for and maybe

it's just threw me off because it was a different

time and place. But first off, we start off with.

like straight nudity in a high school gymnasium

or a gym class shower room. And I was like, I

don't care that all of these actors are 26, which

is what Hollywood does. Like they're probably

all 25, 26 year olds, but like they're still

depicting minors that are all just like walking

around naked in this, in this movie. And I'm

like, that's kind of, I don't, you know, obviously

that probably doesn't happen today. Right. So,

so, so that threw me off. And then like, it could

be a drinking game. Like every time somebody

gets slapped, take a shot like the amount of

people slapping people is like off the chains

and that's like and it's like guys slapping girls

and teachers slapping students and i'm like what

is what time period was this that i miss living

in that this well i mean to be honest like that

might i mean you know at least the way some some

of our elders have talked maybe that way so who

knows you know i mean i know you hear about like

the catholic school sequence where like the nuns

are hitting you with like the the meteor sticks

or whatever but like this like the gym teacher

just outright slaps a student right from the

like go and i'm like oh well you're fired and

in jail yeah what's also the same area where

they can just like smoke openly and like the

principal's office yeah like oh man it was a

different time it was just like you know throw

me a beer as i drive down the road and and you

know let me spill it all over myself so i look

like a a fool and not get in trouble by the cops

but so i mean like there's some of that that

like you said doesn't age well like it's of a

certain time and i'm just like okay that's kind

of weird i one thing that always threw off like

i was wondering knowing that ultimate sequence

at the prom and knowing that that's where we're

headed to and knowing what's going to happen

i was like is that going to ruin things for me

but even if i hadn't known it the movie itself

telegraphs it so much that like yeah even if

you didn't know it you're going to know it while

watching the movie like they they do they show

them setting it up they flash to it multiple

times like you know that's what's happening like

you might not know it when they're killing the

pig which i don't know why we gotta like two

movies in a row where we have to involve livestock

and how we kill cows and pigs but like whatever

i guess it's part of the deal that you sign up

for when you're when you're going down this road

um so you might not know that that's what's happening

when they kill the pig but like shortly thereafter

you can kind of put those pieces together and

then the the other two and then i'll let you

go here but the other two characters that really

didn't 100 work for me the principal i assume

that's what his position was a principal of the

school of some sort and the mom like i get what

they're going for with like the super strict

abusive religious parent but like she was so

over the top that i was just like I don't know.

She belonged in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie.

She could have been the mom at the table with

the rest of the people at the dinner table at

the end. And the principal, there's no principal

on this planet that's going to get somebody's

name wrong four times in a row in the same conversation

after being told straight to their face that

that's not the person's name. Teachers and principals

are usually much better about that. The principal,

I felt like he was a pretty shallow character

overall. Not quite like the mustache twirling

villain, but it's like the principle you see

in every film from the 70s and 80s, right? Yeah.

I mean, basically, it seems like it has the makeup

of kind of a teen comedy from the 70s, but adding

in. So those are kind of elements you would expect

for that. But then twisting it a bit with the

actual horror. And I would agree with you in

the sense of you. there is deeper themes here

you can certainly see the you know the idea of

purity and the impact on the world and almost

like especially for the time maybe even a bit

more of a feminist message than a lot of other

films but some of that like you mentioned the

mom i i mean at least she was entertaining i'll

give her that but definitely over the top like

cissy spacek like i i thought i was gonna hate

her the whole film yeah she does come around

like you do you feel compelled by her in the

sense of you know she's in this awful situation

she's trying to she's clearly having abusive

mom like very crazy background everyone's making

fun of her and i did like the the idea that you

had the you know the one girl played by uh was

it two i forget which one that was actually yeah

who was the fact that she was actually like kind

of doing the right thing and how it gets kind

of twisted like that dynamic i thought was a

bit intriguing because i wasn't sure at first

if she was If she was actually legitimate in

her cause, there was a little bit of mystery

there because was she just pretending? Was she

in on it as well? And then figuring out that

that wasn't the case because when she first asked

Tommy to ask her to the prom, I thought they

both had the same plan, the way they approached

it. Also, William Catt, who played Tommy, perhaps

the greatest hair in movie history. I don't know.

He's at least the most hair. uh in movie history

for sure uh but i didn't think he was particularly

great in this to be honest uh but he at least

he had a bit of i think i thought like what worked

for me though was with those two characters like

i was intrigued or like in suspense the entire

time on if they were part of the joke or not

and like i thought both characters actors or

whatever performances like helped make that something

i never quite understood until like really at

the end that's fair that's that's that's legitimate

call because i was similar because i when especially

when he's like oh you looked at my poem i'm like

is he at first i thought he was just like searching

for something but when they actually have that

like conversation at prom at the table and it

seems like oh maybe there is some legitimacy

like maybe he is not you know all a horrible

person maybe actually does like the fact that

he liked a poem even though she he didn't write

it or what have you yeah um also i completely

thought the um freddie or whatever was sean penn

uh not sean penn but uh sean penn's brother whatever

his name is i can't think of his name um because

he had that type of demeanor to him but which

character the uh the guy who like does the votes

like it's so weird to me that like brian to mama

like me in this movie too because you look at

his like filmography and to his credit like he

doesn't just do one type of movie because i think

of him i think of things like blow out which

i think is a brilliant movie and i'll leave mission

impossible and then you have this and to his

credit like i don't think it's made like a horror

film in the sense of like always having you know

jump scares or like that slow build per se like

it's like i mentioned it's like made like more

of a teenage drama with supernatural elements

so and but when we get like kind of that explosion

of style when you have like the almost like a

picture in picture with the picture that was

like something i i don't know if i've ever seen

in a movie of this era i could imagine what it

was like at the time but yeah i was really impressed

with my introduction to him was like scarface

and uh what was the scarface in carlito's way

yeah and the untouchables is another one that

yeah i think of But yeah, I think he doesn't

make it like a horror movie, which I think tends

to work in the sense of making that impact at

the end. Probably more surprising if you didn't

know the story. But when he does get let loose,

that is the highlight. Like I mentioned, the

climax, I think, does still ring true and is

still impactful. I was curious, speaking of that,

what did you make or think of the whole... supernatural

aspect of it like the telekinesis and the carries

abilities like what did you make of that did

you like that element of the movie did you think

it took away from it at all did you feel like

it was symbolic versus actually happening or

like what was your take as it felt very steven

to be uh pedantic it does feel very stephen king

where like he has he introduced like supernatural

elements but like doesn't delve into like the

cause of them or feel like, you know, from the

shining to almost like, you know, late mutant

powers, but not quite. So it did feel fitting

within a Stephen King story to have something

with that where you don't know exactly where

it's coming from. Is it something demonic? You

know, is that why he doesn't know her dad or

where he left or what have you? Is there something

there? Is that what it's causing it? You know,

is there something more there? I like the fact

that it doesn't feel the need to explain it or

give us reasoning for it. She learns about it.

We see why she learns about it and understands

it and the way it grows. So that didn't take

away from me. If anything, it just built intrigue

because it's wondering, okay, where is this coming

from and what direction is this going to? And

as you mentioned, it keeps hinting at where it's

going to go with the blood and they're going

to try to embarrass her when you know the fact

that she has this power. is that going to be

when she let loose let's loose and of course

that's what happens so i think it helps add suspense

in a couple of different parts right like because

you'd know that if she can see it in front of

her that she can do something about it you know

what i mean but then we have the sequence with

her and her mom where you know she can't see

what the mom's doing behind her back yeah like

how is how is she going to get out of this like

how is she going to be able to use her powers

to do this or is she just going to like get killed

here and i think the whole it was interesting

the choices they made after the prom sequence

right like what they're going to do as she goes

back home and kind of i guess the coda to that

and kind of you know after the fact like because

they kept getting to the point where i was like

oh it's just going to end right here and i was

like well i think there's like 15 minutes left

in this movie or something i was like what else

what else are they covering here like what else

are they going to do i thought it was also interesting

i did read that there may be some differences

between the film version and the book version

as far as who specifically dies and who doesn't

in this sequence but i did find it intriguing

too that the movie could have easily let a few

characters off the hook like it could have been

that one situation where the movie felt like

hey this person was nice to her or that person

stood up for her so like these people are going

to be spared or they're going to survive this

like complete chaotic like flipping out that

she's going to do when she loses it and I did

appreciate that, like, that wasn't where they

went with this. Like, it's... She has no clue

who's... What's happening to who, for the most

part, is just, like, out of her control, in a

way. And I appreciated that there was... Even

though I wanted them to survive, like, I appreciated

that there was, like, I guess, quote -unquote,

some innocent bystanders that were also gonna...

Yeah. Yeah. Like, the gym teacher... Like, I

was surprised that, you know... Because, in a

way, she's innocent. In a way, she isn't. Because,

like, she... In a way, like, her... attempt to

stick up for carrie is the one that kind of creates

her own demise i think if anything you could

argue she's more like using harry as a shield

to justify her hatred of some of these girls

yeah for sure she clearly wanted to do what she

did with them uh for some of them like it did

not you mentioned slapping her like that she

did not hold uh so i think i did think it was

well shot too like how they have sue her character

once like as she's discovering what's actually

happened which is the first time that we're kind

of getting in on the fact that she's not part

of this and the way they kind of slow -mo that

and do the some tracking shots and like the way

that she's trying to help but then not allowed

to help because the gym teacher like i thought

that whole sequence was was framed very well

and you're almost rooting for her and tommy to

like survive somehow um even though you know

poor tommy he doesn't stand a chance i guess

like i guess in the book he just gets killed

from the bucket landing on him and that's yeah

that's it so i've got this little because die

by bucket is not the most satisfying thing in

the world but what did you think of the extra

sequence then when we're kind of going through

sue's um as like the way the movie plants it

like she's almost the only person that survives

like the book there's a few more survivors i

guess but like in the movie we're almost framed

as like she's the only one because she was kicked

out of the of the room before all the doors get

shut etc and things of that nature. What did

you take of her survival and kind of like the

coda to the whole film? Trying to think of what

it could stand for and represent. And I think

it certainly understands it's like, is it going

with the theme of the more biblical aspect of

forgiveness and trying to make up for your past

sins, which she fully does. And she does. sacrifice

because she gives up prom and that's a major

you know that's a huge thing and maybe because

of that she survives where pommy doesn't although

in a way like i guess you could argue like his

his death is not caused by carrie so maybe that

makes it okay i don't know not okay but it was

her her deciding that she needed to all of a

sudden get up off the dinner table because it

was eight o 'clock and go to the prom was something

i never quite understood like that really made

me at first feel like she knows what's happening

she's going to watch and things of that nature

because without that why do you go at that specific

time like why is it yeah the clock at this time

i need to be there that threw me off at first

my my thought maybe too was like she knew that

they were going to try to make her homecoming

queen or i don't know or maybe he thought that

homie was going to so she wouldn't be i don't

know yeah that that maybe that part the whole

group of girls was in on but They just didn't

know the blood part that the other two were planning

or three, whatever it was. Yeah. That's a good

question. That I don't know for sure. Like, why

exactly she shows up and doesn't clearly in just,

like, normal clothes, too. Just to stand out

a bit. But I think it's one of those things where

you just have to, like, we need her there for

this to work. Otherwise, it's so. But. so dan

we're two we're two horror films in and one thing

that horror films are known for are like jump

scares and i didn't really have a jump scare

moment for texas chainsaw massacre i mean i know

there's a couple times where like they go through

the doors real quick and things like that but

it didn't necessarily like jump scare me and

obviously i knew you know what's happening with

the blood and all the other stuff and carrie

and there's not a whole lot of other like violent

like jump scary moments it's more like You can

see some of the things coming like you're about

she's about to go ham on her on her mom. And,

you know, everybody in this gym is in trouble.

Like they're not like they're tense or they're

like build up to, but they're not jump scare

moments. Well, the final dream sequence. Apparently,

that's a super famous scene that everybody knows

about. I was not one of those people that knew

that was coming. And I about jumped out of my

skin when Carrie. reaches up through the ground

and grabs sue's leg in that dream sequence i

was not prepared for that moment yeah i didn't

that that i didn't know either so so it got me

we finally were two movies in and they finally

got me to jump at some things i was like holy

crap i thought we were basically done i think

it was because i was unarmed at that point like

the movie's over like we're just doing like some

some cleanup here at the end and they hit me

with that and it's it's like the prototypical

like the villain even though carrie could be

seen as a villain and could not be seen as a

villain but like you know you see it in all the

movies right like the the bad guy who puts his

arm up like whether it's a superhero movie or

uh the teenage mutant ninja turtles when shredder

puts his hand up like you always get that like

that's a common trope but i was not ready for

it i should have as soon as she started walking

actually on the dirt and over to the grave symbol

but it got me dan it got me it took you know

eventually we'll we'll get you next week though

that's the question That is a question, Dan.

What's your experience with the film we're talking

about next week? None. Again, like this is going.

Yeah. So this is this is one of all the ones

going into this list, going through these like

this is the one that I think it was the most

ashamed by was The Exorcist. Again, I did watch

like one of The Exorcist sequels in theaters

like that came out like in the early 2000s or

so, I think. I think it was or it's a spinoff

or something like that. from and i think i forget

what it was exactly what it was called but i've

never seen the original i've long wanted to i

don't know why i haven't partially i think is

this the one that had the sequel that was like

the shot for shot sequel or is that a different

one i'm thinking of or was that that was psycho

had like the shot sequel i don't know because

of the the exorcist movie i saw was like actually

or exorcist the beginning i think it was called

it's like a prequel um i think that was So there's

one, two, three, four, five, six, there's seven

Exorcist movies. I saw Exorcist at the beginning

in 2004. Again, that was the era where, you know,

I was going to see everything. And that's when

I was going out with my now wife, girlfriend

at the time. So we went to, she was, like I said,

she was into the scary movies. So we went to

go see that. maybe i'm more prepared because

i saw the prequel beforehand so under things

i don't see that see this better but be able

to fill in the gaps for me yeah um i a huge fan

of william frequent william freaking like i love

the sorcerers one of my all -time favorite films

and he also did the french connection and so

but for whatever reason haven't seen the exorcist

i think just you know i i don't love demon possession

movies in the sense of they they tend to freak

me out more than anything maybe that's why i

stayed away from it but happy to give it a watch

for the first time how about you have you seen

this before i'm guessing it's the first time

watch for you as well you are guessing correctly

and yeah we're sticking with the 70s too so we

were at 74 76 and 73 like i guess it was a good

time of the history and history for like these

classic horror films that have like not classic

like like the universal you know dracula frankenstein

like that type of classic but like the the classic

for i guess at the time was modern when we were

kids but like those films that kind of really

became the backbone for what a lot of the stuff

that we got like in the 90s and 2000s etc so

it's a interesting that was jump we jump around

with the 1970s here quite a bit yeah and then

we're still debating but i think we're gonna

potentially finish off with another 70s horror

film which i guess we did a 70s retro actually

we'll have to do 80s man yeah uh with the rocky

horror picture show i mean with you know tim

curry passing away this year seems seems fitting

and that would be a first time watch for me as

well i think for you too if i'm not mistaken

i have seen i'm going to be interested when i

watch this dan because i have seen something

exorcist related but i don't know i don't believe

it was an entire film and i don't know from which

film the part that i saw was from so as i watch

this i'll have to report back and say like Had

I actually seen a scene or two of this before

or was it one of the six sequels? I don't know.

Yeah. And plus there's so many movies with like,

you know, exorcism and stuff like that. So we'll

see. This might be the one I'm looking forward

to like the least. Oh, no. No, not in a bad way.

But like what you said about like it's the the

demon possession type aspect of like when it

starts going down that subgenre into the horror.

That's usually when I'm more like that's definitely

not for me. and i will have it i will have it

remind me because uh i have an interesting story

regarding the whole exorcism thing from uh that

i can go into so that might be interesting to

talk about next week cliffhanger everybody so

dan how can people reach out to us and let us

know their comments on carrie or the texas chainsaw

massacre or the exorcist or i'm going to say

the wrong movie title so i don't want to say

the tim curry film the wrong way rocky rocky

horror picture show it's it's it's a spin -off

from the other rocky he fights clubber lang but

it's a combination between rocky and the little

shop of horrors i don't know yeah uh but yes

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