GCRN WarZ
80s Cartoon Villains Tournament Champion Roundup

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I still function. Most interesting. Hello and
welcome to GCR and Wars episode 11, the 80s cartoon
villains grand finale tournament of champions.
And we are going to be crowning the champion
this time around. Steve, why don't you talk about
the voting? Because part of this is my fault.
Okay, well. Are you talking about the mass shift
in one day? The influx, yeah. Okay. Well, I checked
the forum one day, and it was kind of slow. I
mean, there was maybe like, I don't know, 30
-some people, maybe 40 that had voted. The grand
total of votes at this point is 130. Now, mind
you, at this time, it was Skeletor at... It was
like, I think, 16 and Megatron at 17. It was
quite odd to me. I was like, oh, somebody's actually
going to make this a run for the money. Two days
later, there was a call put out. And it happened
to be to a Transformer toy reviewer. Well, he
doesn't just review Transformers. I know, but
he does. A friend of mine on YouTube. In any
case, it jumped massively in one direction. Now
you are at fault. Now the fans can be mad at
you. No, because... It was still fans that voted.
Yeah. Okay, look. I'm going to go through this.
He just had this particular guy spread the word.
I had him post on his fan page on Facebook. I
said, hey, can you post about this, blah, blah,
blah, blah. It's the finals. You know, who really
wins? And his post on Facebook reached 2 ,310
people. Okay. All he said was, okay, guys, it's
the finals. Megatron versus Skeletor. Show the
world why Megs is the best. So he's kind of a
little one -sided. That's his opinion. But out
of that, we got whatever votes we got. But still,
it comes down to the people that go to the website
and click on whatever name they want to click
on. So it's not like us. It's not like – and
Steve can totally do this. It's not like Steve
going to seven different IP – using seven different
IP addresses and voting seven different times.
It has nothing to do with that. I only voted
once. Everyone else only voted once as far as
I know. So it's like one of those things where
the final was the most votes we ever got, right?
130? Yeah. Yeah. It was quite interesting to
say the least. Do you know what the total, like
overall the entire tournament, like between everything,
what the total votes was? I feel like this tournament
was now brought to us by Fox News. Okay. The
overall total casted votes between every round,
not breaking it down, total voters, 813 for the
entire tournament. Wow. That's awesome. Not too
shabby. No, not too bad. Not too bad for a first
shot. I will say that this is the most votes
we've had in a round since, I would say, Mumra
versus Monstar. And Megatron against Psykill
and Shredder and Tex -Mex, where they were in
the 70s. Yeah, I would also like to point out
that none of us in round one, well, Birdman didn't
know about it at the time because he didn't know
where to go to vote. Birdman doesn't count, but
none of us, of the rest of us, Neil, myself,
Kevin, or Steve, voted for Skeletor in round
one. None of us did. None of us thought Skeletor
could make it this far. Everybody thought that
Hordak was going to be here, or obviously Hordak
would have beaten Skeletor. So the fact is Skeletor
is the ultimate underdog when it comes to this
tournament. I definitely didn't vote for him
in the first round, but I did vote for him in
the quarters and in the semis. Right. All right.
Shall we just get right to it, Steve? Yes. The
grand total, which, honestly, I didn't see it
being a shocker of who was going to win. I did
see a shock at how wide the gap was. I knew it
was going to end up this way just for the fact
that I had the art done two weeks ago. Right
at the end of... Actually, before the end of
the previous round, I had that round's art done
and this art's done. So I knew this was going
to happen. We have Skeletor with a raging 24
votes and Megatron with 106. Gee, this wasn't
a blowout at all. Fusion Cannon to the face.
Let the hate mail begin. You know what? It's
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.com. So after beating Hordak, King's Archon,
and Cobra Commander, Skeletor falls prey just
like Psykill, Shredder, and Mumra to Megatron's
fusion cannon. Yes. That's right. They have been
made Megatron's bitch. Dun dun dun. I will point
out, though, that if this, regardless of the
voting, if this was just us choosing, I would
have loved for this to turn out the other way
because one of my buddies from Radio Free Cybertron,
Ender, he pointed out to me, he commented on
the website and said, Skeletor should win this
hands down because Starscream's just going to
shoot Megatron in the back. I could see that
happening if he was allowed into the arena. True.
Yeah, I mean, looking back at the whole tournament,
obviously there would have been some cool matchups
that I would have liked to see. I really would
have liked to have seen Megatron versus Moonstar
at some point. Just because size -wise and body
composition, they're the closest to each other.
And again, it would have been cool to somehow
see Shredder versus Skeletor or Shredder versus
Cobra Commander. Those would have been some epic
battles. Yeah, those would have been some epic
battles. Or like Avenger against Mumra or something
like that. I mean, there were some cool matchups
that could have happened. But I'm not surprised,
obviously, that Megatron made it on this part.
And I wasn't sure if Skeletor would be able to
get past Cobra Commander and the Legion of G
.I. Joe fans. Yeah, what the fuck happened there?
The Legion of G .I. Joe fans failed G .I. Joe.
What's on Joe mind needs to change its whole
premise and whole project. Those G .I. Joe fans
are fucking dead to me because they didn't come
to Cobra Commander's aid whatsoever. I'm sure
they will when it comes to, you know, having,
you know, the actual G .I. Joe's. Yeah. After
all, they're not what's on Cobra's mind. Well,
still, but they like villains just like we do.
Another thing that, again, Ender pointed out
to me, he, the entire tournament, because he
was paying attention to it, even though he didn't
comment on any of the posts, he was paying attention
to it. He told me he was rooting for Venger against
Megatron in the finals because you'd have Peter
Cullen versus Frank Welker. That would have been
cool. And we did dodge the multiple opportunities
for people to battle themselves as well, mainly
just Chris Lotta, though, I guess. Yeah, yeah.
That would have been funny. Yeah. Before we get
to what's happening next on GCRN Wars, why don't
we go around the table and get final thoughts
on this tournament overall from beginning to
end, starting with the Birdman there. What do
you think about this whole breakdown? I think
that some of these were inevitable. I mean, I
kind of wish the tournament bracket was actually
a little bit bigger, just so we could have got
more kind of people in there. Unfortunately,
things like this, it's going to come down to
popularity. I'm not surprised Cobra Commander
made it far. I'm not surprised. Basically, any
of the iconic 80s franchises, not surprised at
all. Some of the other guys, I don't know. I
would have liked to have seen Lex Luthor in this
because he was in the Super Friends. Well, that
will come into play in a future 90s tournament.
yeah all right then that i'm fucking totally
on board with like that one um yeah i don't know
i mean i had fun um doing this though i mean
this was it's a pretty cool idea um i was actually
saying to steve before we recorded this if we
could have started this earlier i think we could
have almost done almost two tournaments because
we could have had the a bracket we could have
had like the losers bracket and i kind of wonder
who would have won out of them i'm going corporate
commander person that's Kev, that's interesting.
We should do that the rest of the year. No, actually,
you know what, Mike? Kev, that needs to be the
next tournament, the loser's bracket from this.
Well, I mean, we could do that, too, in the future
when we do other tournaments. We could have a
loser's bracket going on at the same time. Just
given that thought, this is how it probably would
have penned down. Depending on how you set it
up and how it goes, on the one side you'd have
Hordak with a huge advantage, probably ending
up going against Venger. And on the other side,
you'd have Shredder and Moonstar. If it was set
up similar to how this bracket was set up, and
they just kind of advanced instead. So those
would have been some interesting matchups. I
think Moonstar would be tough to beat. He would
eat Shredder. Yeah, he would be tough to beat,
that's for sure. And Hordak would be tough to
beat, too. So I don't know how that would have
played out. Hordak and Avenger, I think, would
have been a better... Well, this is what we discovered
when I've done things like this in the future.
Like I said, I've done Transformers tournaments
where it's just all Transformers characters,
and we basically discovered that you have to
take out the popularity factor to a point. When
we did our Transformers one, we immediately eliminated
Megatron, Optimus Prime, and a couple characters
like that, so that it was basically... you know,
the leaders or, you know, any combiners, that
type of stuff. We try to level the playing field
as much as possible. And that's obviously something
that we will try to do going forward. But this
was a pretty level playing field since each person
was, you know, the main villain from their cartoon.
We weren't doing a tournament within a certain
franchise or universe, which may happen in the
future. But yeah, it's a learning process. And
we will have tournaments that are more than 16.
16 is basically the least amount of participants
we would have. But there may be some where we
have 32 and or 64. I just can't imagine us doing
like a 64 bracket. You guys, we'd have to do
it like twice a week or something like that.
Well, or we just have longer individual episodes
a little bit. But yeah. Any other thoughts on
the tournament overall, Mike? I think it would
have been interesting had we maybe thrown in
if each. each challenger could bring in one friend
so to speak like like megatron and star screamer
megatron and soundwave shrek that would have
tipped the favor big time to cobra commander
yeah but no he gets one i know but he could have
brought serpentor in you wouldn't bring serpentor
he hates serpentor yeah but oh yeah i'm not saying
who he'd want to but i'm saying if he's smart
he would bring him in because that guy is on
par with all these guys um whereas serpentor
could take out megatron No, but I'm saying he
could help him in a lot of different battles.
But he could command. Compared to Skeletor bringing
in, like, Beastman, that's not going to help
him much. Yeah. Well, yeah, well, I guess. Would
have an advantage, too. Yeah. Brain and Krang.
So, yeah, I mean, thoughts for next year, but
this was fun, though. How about you, Neil? Thoughts
overall on this tournament, how it played out?
I would have put, like, magic on one side. all
the tech guys on the other i think that was suggested
on an earlier show but i would have like if i
had to substitute one character i would have
i would have taken psykill out and i would have
replaced him with uh retie from robotech because
retie is the same size as megatron and he took
on three valkyries at the same time that's that's
uh that's jetfire from the transformers franchise
yeah so that would have been interesting whereas
uh psykill was just kind of uh a grease spot
after like three seconds not to be one -sided
and not to be you know give point to kevin's
argument from last week but you could have put
had megatron versus galvatron well and we did
have basically magic against uh tech side by
side the only crossover there was mumra being
on the one side otherwise it did play out like
that um because you had skeletor hordag king's
archon venger and all them on the one side so
it was just mumra really that could have been
switched, I guess, to make that happen. But yeah,
there's definitely a lot of other interesting
choices. I had a villain list much larger, but
some people just don't recognize some of those
old 80s villains as much. I know some of these
guys are even stretches for people. Such as who?
I mean... Anybody from Blackstar in my case.
I never even saw that cartoon. No, I'm just talking
about if you go into Bionic Six or some of those
other... Like, I have a whole list of 80s heroes,
and I'm like, ooh, I don't know if people will
recognize this person or that person, because
there were probably three or four people on our
bracket out of our 16 that people had questions
of as to who they were. So I was just trying
to make sure that everybody knew who these characters
were. So that's something to take into consideration,
too, as we go forward. Steve, thoughts? I mean,
granted, I wasn't particularly... knowledgeable
in all of the characters but I did give fair
enough of where I thought some of them would
rank despite whether I liked a character or not
I tried to give them all equal ground the best
I could but I would say that Yeah, some of the
characters did get a little shafted because they
weren't very well known. And people are going
to go after the ones that are still, for instance,
current with today's media or new versions of
whatever it may be. So, I mean, yeah, a lot of
them are going to get shafted in the process.
But I can agree, too, that, yeah, some of them
are a little lopsided having Attack Against Magic.
You know, early on, I think that kind of threw
things off. But it's definitely a learning experience
for the next one. Especially with some future
tournament ideas that we have floating around
in our heads. Yes. And this is not going to be
something that's just done yearly. Oh, no. This
is going to happen very often. Basically, our
plan, to give you kind of a nutshell, is we will
do our regular, if you're used to our regular
Wars episodes, like when we did Thundercats vs.
Silverhawks or Star Wars vs. Star Trek. It's
basically almost like a five -on, five -off type
thing, where we'll do four or five of those regular
episodes, and then we'll throw another tournament
at you, do that for five episodes, and then go
back to the regular. So it's going to be alternating
back and forth throughout the year, so you will
see many more tournaments to come. And we have
lots of ideas for them. Yes, we do. And I don't
know if we wanted to... Mike, did you give your
final thoughts? Overall, I'm pretty happy with
it. I'm kind of glad it was magic versus technology.
You could almost put any other... I mean, you
could have put Skeletor versus Monstar. You could
have put Skeletor versus Mumra in the final.
You could have put... Hordak versus... What was
on the other side? You know what would have been
interesting? Because Hordak seems, even though
I know he's not human, he's more of an alien.
You could have put Hordak versus Miles Mayhem
and see what the hell happens there. Not saying
that Miles would ever make it to the finals,
but I'm just saying if you ever match those two
up, that would have been interesting. But what
I think is, as was stated earlier, we started
out with kind of really... one -sided, not necessarily
because of popularity or people didn't know them,
but it's like people have this knee -jerk reaction
of whatever they like. Not necessarily that it's
popularity, but whatever that they like. They'll
look at something like Monstar versus Mumra,
and if it's a Thundercats fan, it doesn't matter
what they think or what they analyze it as. Their
first gut reaction is Mumra, hands down. And
none of us even thought... That Mumra would make
it, Pat? Everyone thought that Monstar would
have beaten Mumra. I would say we did a good
job as far as the records of somewhat keeping
our bias in check, keeping our favorites and
that type of stuff. We somewhat broke it down
and really tried to decide, even if it was someone
we liked, why they would lose or why they would
win. And I did like that as the tournament progressed,
the comments on the website began to give scenarios.
people, you know, started coming up with ways
this person would win or ways that person would
win. And that's where the fun really comes in
is in the discussion and the comments there where
people actually draw out, you know, possible
ways that this goes down. And so hopefully that'll
carry over into our next tournament. We can get
that right from round one. You know, I think
it was fun. I think it's a good way to start
this whole thing off, and I'm definitely looking
forward to all the ideas we have. And for anyone
that's complaining or wanting more of a voice,
you will have more of a voice in future tournaments.
And also to tease something that most will not
know about unless they visit the website before
this process. There is now a GCR in forums. Yeah.
So we can have discussions there as well. So
for full -on discussions, instead of just the
episode discussions on the website, you have
both options now. So you can piss and moan in
multi -posting fashion. Yes, exactly. So what
are we... Did we decide what we were going to
do next episode? Well, we're going to keep a
few things kind of sealed as far as our regular
war episodes, but there are going to be a couple
back going. Like I said, we're going to go back
to the standard, just one thing versus another
thing. There's going to be a variety of topics
that we're going to cover here before we get
to our next tournament. But the big news for
everybody out there that's listening or that
took part in this tournament or has any interest
in these tournaments is the fact that we are,
brace yourself, Mr. Blanchard, we are releasing
control. No, we're not. When it comes to our
next tournament topic. Okay, that's fine. I don't
care. We are taking our grip off of the thing,
and we are giving it over to the fans to decide
what our next tournament will be. Well, technically,
we choose the top ten options. We've narrowed
it down to ten options, and we are letting the
fans vote. And then whatever the most popular
three are is what we will decide from after that.
And are we revealing those 10 choices for him
now? Sure. Why not? All right. So kind of go
on the flip side of what we just did. It seems
like an obvious choice that some people might
want to now look at classic 80s heroes. So that
is option number one. We're talking about, you
know, Optimus Prime and Lion -O and your classic
80s heroes. So we can do that. That's your first
option to vote on. Now, I have a question about
this. How are we going to put the Turtles in
there? That's something that will be decided
later. We're talking about He -Man, Optimus Prime,
Duke, Quicksilver, Bravestar, all those guys.
So that's what the tournament would be if you
want to go with that option. The second option
would be a Marvel DC Hero Tournament. So that
would be all your heroes, your main heroes from
Marvel and DC Comics. Your third choice would
be the flip side of that, Marvel and DC Villains.
So we're doing a lot of heroes and villains in
this first half of your choices. Next up, you
could choose Disney villains. We're talking about
Ursula, Cruella de Vil, Jafar, Scar, Captain
Hook, those types of characters, all in a battle
royale. On the flip side of things. No, no, no,
I'm sorry. Hold on. Stop. Stop. One second. Stop.
Javon and Maleficent in the finals. They kiss
and get her pregnant. Why would you suggest that?
My mind just went to bad places. I'm glad my
mind's blank. So anyway, let me get back on track
here. So we have 80s heroes. We have the Marvel
DC heroes. We have the Marvel DC villains. We
have Disney villains. Flip that around, we have
Disney heroes. So your first five are all villains
and heroes. Disney heroes, obviously, we're talking
about all the flip side, you know, Aladdin and
Ariel and stuff like that. All right, once you
get past all those villains and heroes, your
other five options are we're doing action stars.
We're talking about freaking Chuck Norris and
Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jean -Claude Van Damme.
All those guys going at it in a tournament of
who is the baddest badass. So that's your sixth
choice. Now we're going to get crazy. I love
this one. I hope it gets votes. The seventh choice
is food mascots. We're talking Trix the Rabbit
against Kool -Aid Man against Tony the Tiger
against Chester Cheetah against Cap 'n Crunch.
And these guys are going to fight. Yes. It's
a battle royale. I would love to see somebody
take sprites of these and replace them in a battle
game. This would for sure be a 32 tournament
because I have at least 32 of them already. All
right, after that, we have an option for Looney
Tunes characters. So we're talking about Daffy
Duck going against Elmer Fudd, Simony Sam, Bugs
Bunny, all of them. That would be a 16 -man tournament.
And then your other options here are Nintendo
icons. We're talking Pac -Man against Mega Man
against Mario against Sonic, Kirby, all those
guys. Sonic is not Nintendo. Well, technically,
he's third -party independent, but I can get
into that in more detail. That type of stuff.
Anyways, that's the type. I don't think that
one was just Nintendo. It was more video game
icon. And then the last one is an epic franchise
throwdown where we just have franchises going
against each other. Obviously, this is not more
like a battle one -on -one type thing. This is
just a which franchise is better type thing.
So we're talking Star Trek, Star Wars, Lord of
the Rings, Doctor Who, James Bond, stuff like
that. Going against Joe, that was a little trickier,
a little bit more abstract, but those are your
10 options for what our next tournament. Would
be. Thoughts going around the table? Campaign
for which one you want there, Birdman? I would
do Marvel versus DC. However, you're going to
have to put a lot of caveats on it because different
power levels at different eras and who's writing
animated or comic book only. Yeah, there's a
lot of these I'm actually totally down for. So
definitely keep me interested. I like the 80s
heroes. I got a few suggestions I'd like to throw
in. Captain Power. Stuff like that, yeah. He
ain't popular. You are fired. Can't fire me from
a network I fucking created or helped create.
Yeah, there is a lot here. How did She -Ra stack
up with those 80s heroes? Well, she was a gang
raper, probably. That's terrible. You should
never say that again. You just went there. Anyway,
enough about rape culture. Yeah, there's a lot
of really cool things. The video game one. I
have to be a part of that one for sure. I am
surrounded by 4 ,000 games at the current moment,
so I might know a thing or two. So yeah, like
I said, there's a lot of really cool ideas there.
I'd almost like to see a battle of just armies.
And what I mean by that, like foot soldiers versus
Cobra commandos and the Daleks versus the Borg.
There's all sorts of really weird shit like that.
Yeah, that would definitely be an interesting
alien race type. Or, like I said, just armies,
classic armies. I myself am most excited. I mean,
obviously, 80s heroes would be cool. I love the
80s and whatnot. But I think, for some reason,
the food mascots would be funny. Yes. And I really
kind of think the idea of a Disney villain tournament
would be cool. I think that the next two tournaments
should be something completely different from
what we did this time. So, say... because the
way the tournaments are going to play out is
the next tournament will be episodes 15 to 20
of the podcast. Say we did the food mascots there,
and then later we did the Disney villains. And
choosing, sir. I understand that, but I'm just
saying... You still cannot release control. Shut
up. I can give my damn opinion if I want. What
I'm saying is I want the listeners to keep in
mind that we want to do something completely
different from what we just did, and if we end
up doing 80s heroes... It's going to be the same
thing. It's going to be, oh, hey, who do I know
that's popular? So take out the popular people
then. Steve, what are your thoughts on some of
these potential possibilities? Really, I could
go any way with any of them. I mean, I'm excited
to see which one gets chose by the listeners.
I mean, I'll be fine if they decide to choose
80s again. choose the action stars. I think the
food one, the food mascots would be the most
interesting. Well, because that one is not going
to be about, like, there's no Megatron in there.
There's no powers. It's just, it's, you know,
whatever their commercial happens to be. I mean,
it's just, I mean, you're not even fighting whether
you like the cereal or not. You're fighting over,
you know, their actions that you see them doing
when they're animated. I am taking the odds on
the Kool -Aid man, though. I'm just saying. And
then he busts through the wall. I'm giving it
to Chester Cheetah because he can summon objects
out of midair. That's true. He's got the slapping
machine. I remember in the old days of Yahoo
Messenger and Yahoo Chat, there used to be an
emoticon that said, Hey Kool -Aid, and slams
into the brick wall. Neil, what are your thoughts
on some of these possibilities? I'm digging the
food mascot one too. The first thing that came
to mind was... Twinkie the Kid taking on the
Hamburger Helper glove. Oh, that would be hilarious.
I just want to see Count Chocula go against Frankenberry.
No, I want to see Count Chocula go against Sonny.
You could do one that's just all cereal for crying
out loud. It almost turns out to be with a couple
other crazy ones thrown in that I don't want
to reveal all the ideas because I want there
to be some surprises when the actual brackets
get revealed. But yeah, I think that one would
be cool. Any other ones that kind of caught your
eye there, Neil? Video games. Oh, God, I love
video games. Although I would be the dork suggesting
all the obscure characters. I would get bored
with Mario and Sonic. I could play along with
that. Yeah, that'd be great. Mario vs. Link,
that would be interesting. Well, we have Super
Smash Bros. Brawl for that. Well, yeah, but...
You gotta bring the noise with Cloud from Final
Fantasy versus Commander Shepard or some shit
like that. Yeah, that would have to be a decision
that would be made if you're going more with
the kid -friendly characters or if you're actually
bringing in real fighting... Kratos, the god
of war. That would be unfair. See, I'd want to
bring in Bomberman. There you go. Mega Man, bitch.
We could do that. We could have all the Mega
Man villain tournaments. We could have the Mega
Man villain tournament and just have all the
villains go against each other. Anyone else have
any thoughts before we move on? I like puppies.
I like puppies. That's cool. I thought we were
talking about cats before. Hey, hey, hey. Idea,
idea. Wait, wait, wait. Mike's got an idea. What's
your idea? What about the cutest 80s starlets?
We did have a lot of different ideas. I had ideas
for fictional, like, all fictional cats or fictional
dogs or, like, sidekicks. Like, you know, your
annoying little sidekick on every cartoon. Like,
I'm thinking you take people, like, say, like,
look at all the really cute scream queens for
me. Look at all the really cute action ladies.
We did have an idea for, like, a geek babe tournament.
Totally down for that, man. So that may be something
we explore in a future tournament as well. Steve,
can you give them any information as far as what
they're doing, as far as where they go to vote
on this? For one, I will be posting this in the
sidebar on the main website. It will also be
in the Champions location on the 80s Villains
Wars Tournament bar at the very top. I will leave
that up there until we figure out what our next
tournament is. So that will be basically the
rotating bar for the tournaments. It will be
under the Champ button. I will also have it,
like I said, in the side menu. along with our
new GCRN forums button. So just look for those.
And also we can continue the debate on why we
should have certain ones within the forum. Excellent.
Awesome. All right. Well. That's going to do
it for this episode of GCN Wars. You'll have
to tune in next time to see what our next Ultimate
Battle Royale will be, because apparently none
of us can agree on a friggin' topic. So, for
now, I am TF2 and Mike with... He's Mr. Neal.
Mike the Birdman Dodd! Oh, fuck! Sorry! Dodd,
Neal, Kevin, Steve. Why do we always do this
and there's never a fucking order? For now, I
am TF2 and Mike with... Spaghettios! TV's Mr.
Neal. Optimus Sulla. Kermit the E -Frog. Hi -ho!
Hello! We'll catch you next time on Leash the
Geek and You. Maybe. They've got big fucking
tacos! Whoops, sorry. I got excited, sorry. But
this time I shall not be denied! Now, Decepticons,
each of you must contribute a Power Chip Rectifier
to the exchange furnace. But I need my Power
Chip Rectifier. Besides, the Cybertron Code of
Combat requires each warrior to fight as he is,
without additional reinforcement. You wouldn't
want to cheat, would you, Megatron? I will win
by any means, at any cost. Even if that means
terminating you, Starscream. I was only raising
a legal point. I am not concerned with technicalities.
Only victory interests me. If you would like
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