Transformers Animated Season Three Finale Review

Greetings, former Decepticons! This is Starscream,

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I'm jiving to this episode of transformation

animation featuring Mike Blanchard Steven C Phillips

and Michael Wilson Hello and welcome to episode

15 of transformation animation podcast. I am

your host D of June Mike and joining me is Steve

Megatron Hello, hello and peak on court Michael.

Hello. Hey, how's it going? It's going. How are

you Steve? Doing pretty good. What are you been

up to? Not much Michael, what have you been up

to? You know, being the dad, we just got through

with Halloween just a few days ago and that was

exciting. I took the kids out trick -or -treating.

I got a huge haul of candy. Or I should say the

kids got a huge haul of candy. Right. Yeah, I'm

just supervising it for them. Kind of reminds

me of that Bill Cosby episode, the Cosby Show

episode where the people... The people that you

know, those houses go in the purple bag. The

people that you have houses that you don't know,

those go in the red bag and we'll divide it up

after we're done. It's more like the candy that

you like goes in this bag and the candy that

you don't like goes in this bag. And this bag

goes to the adults. Yeah. Well, I don't know.

I'm pretty good about what I like. They're asleep

when I started digging through their bags. They

don't know. Years from now, they'll go back in

here this ago. He was eat my candy With any luck

now, so so there's that and that you know, it's

probably my favorite holiday You know a lot of

people shoot straight for like Christmas, but

I don't know I something about Halloween that

I like You just like the free food and dress

it up There you go like a girl. I don't dress

up and I like you know picking out costumes for

the boys. They have a lot of costumes in the

basement so they can dress up as an army guy

or a fireman or a Darth Vader or whatever they

want. Batman and Robin. Well, they were Batman

and Robin for Halloween. Yeah. Very cute. Just

adorable. I have been podcasting as usual. Getting

Jump the Shark off the ground over at This Week

in Yeek. Starting to do some cartoon roundtables

over there for them. For Geekcast Radio Network,

we are ever expanding. Starting the music spotlight,

getting that off the ground. Doing this show.

legends of the dark knight with steve uh... whole

bunch of other stuff uh... getting ready for

the the the end of the year type of uh... episode

that will do eventually uh... you know getting

ready getting getting the blog post ready for

what's coming in twenty twelve and i forgot to

do this last week i had written some notes on

twitter that i never remembered to go back and

look at the last week i had notes for episode

fourteen The Jet Twins are an experiment with

Starscream, just like Protoform X was in Beast

Wars. Do it, Steve. Do what? Come on, you know.

X is down there. Okay, not that part, just the

voice part. uh... and and and and and and and

and and and and and and and and and and and and

and and and and and and and and and and and and

and and and and and and Yeah, the military. The

military branch. They're the ones that are doing

the fighting. And then everyone else is, you

know, kind of like your rat trap and your tracks

and whoever else is just hanging out on the street

going to McAdams is, I mean, they're non -combatants.

I'm not quite sure where that logic is going.

That's because they like to drink. It might have

just been poorly written. I don't know. Well,

it is Transformers animated. Alright, so I think

without any more further ado, we're gonna get

into some episodes. Certain machines more than

others. First up today in the final episode review

episode is, if that makes any sense, this is

why I hate machines. We all know who's gonna

have a starring role in this one, don't we? Ratchet

activates Bulkhead's Space Bridge, which ends

up sucking Captain Fanzone into it with Ratchet

following him. They both end up on Cybertron

around the time Sentinel Prime has declared a

lockdown. Omega Supreme has arrived on Cybertron

with Megatron, Starscream's head, and Lugnut.

Thus Shockwave, still possessing Ultra Magnus'

hammer, attempts to get Omega Supreme's access

codes from R .C. herself. Oh boy. All right,

oh boy in the beginning I swear there was like

no In the beginning when they're when fan zone

is being attacked by the some DAC security bots

I Know my hearing is not failing me because I

know this sound effect to the point that I haven't

memorized any time I hear it I know exactly what

it is. It's Cheetor's gun sound damn it Yep.

Yeah. Good call. And, you know, again, I'm sick

of the colloquialisms that they're using in this

show. Who can read Bulkhead's penbot ship? Oh,

God, shut the fuck up. Seriously. That's the

stupidest thing I've ever heard. That's one of

the major things I have to agree with Kevin on,

is all of these stupid words. Like, I can understand,

like... If they review something like Otto Botley

like what mr. Wilson came up with I could understand

that I would like that but these other asinine

things that keep popping up in the show I I have

to agree with Kevin I I mean, I'm to the point

where I agree with Kevin, because, you know,

at first, when I first saw the series, I was,

as, you know, as we've said before, I was just

watching it to watch it. I wasn't watching it

to analyze it at that point. But now it's like...

It's downright annoying. Yeah. Well, I know that

they're going for their own culture, they're

going for this, they're going for that, whatever

else, but still, it's like, Jesus freaking Christ.

Who was it that was complaining about Battlestar

Galactica and their... overuse of the word frack

frank that's kevin okay well i i i i said something

on twitter the other day about was about you

to know something that piss me off uh... what

was it chris now i don't even remember for a

right is that i use the word for a He replied

to me on Twitter said you use that one more time.

I will never speak to you ever again It's like

he you know he will end up ship over someone

using the word frag well fragity frag frag frag

frag is a different term Frag is a first -person

shooter term. He's used to describe a kill frack

is is a colonial for fuck I Didn't use frack

I used frag Yeah, see, frag is a different word.

Let me pull it. I'm actually going back through

my Twitter feed at this very moment. And where

is it? Come on. See, frag is more of a word that

Masterson would use, as in, frag you noobs. I'm

going to frag all you noobs. That makes you sound

like he's going to frag them dirty. Yeah. See,

now, you wouldn't want to say, I'm going to frag

you noobs, because that would involve, you know,

thank you. Going Zons with no pants Yes, um God

come on. Where is it? All right, so I'll find

that in a second. Sue blue was flare up. That's

awesome Uh -huh. Oh, that was flare up. Yeah,

so I was thinking that was flame war. No, that's

flare up ah damn it flame war is completely different

flame war is black and red oh god we do not want

to get into a flame war is this or flame war

is that debate because holy hell nitro streak

will come down on us with the fury of a woman

scorned she loves that character but no that

that was flare up not flame war you're absolutely

right because i own a flare up but i don't own

a flame war so i should have known sentinel needs

to die i'm tfg1mike and i approve this bullet

point I like how he's running a red scare. Join

the communist side. You expect them to say better

red than dead. Just right in the middle. It's

all fear -mongering propaganda. I'm the polar

opposite of a Decepticon, but I endorse their

methods. Tracks! I love tracks! That's awesome!

Yeah! That was cool. All the old nodges are so

cool. They didn't bring Paul Iding in for that,

did they? For tracks? I don't think so. Paul

wasn't tracks. That was Michael McConaughey.

Oh, damn it! You're right. That originally voiced

him, but I don't think that was him. Probably

not. I was just throwing out their flagrant disuse

of original voice actors. Yeah, well, let's see.

Starscream's head is awesome, even more than

when it was attached to his body. Fort Max set

up a perimeter around the Metroplex. Now, I remember

seeing Metroplex earlier when you mentioned that

Ultra Magnus lives in Metroplex, but it wasn't

until... It wasn't until this episode when Sentinel

says that Set up a perimeter around the Metroplex

that I really got that they put the reference

in there Yeah, and I know Michael will say that

you know if Fort Max actually fully transformed

he wouldn't want a toy Yeah That's why I would

never pass the drop test. No, not at all. And,

you know, they didn't even show all of Fort Max.

They just kind of showed the central tower and

then the big gun coming out of it. Yep. I mean,

it would have been really awesome to see the

front of it kind of like they had shown Metroplex

in city mode. Tracks in animated is voiced by

Townsend Coleman. Oh, yeah. I mean. You know,

the blue -blood voice probably isn't all that

hard to do for a seasoned voice actor, but...

Yes, Sentinel... It would make sense to bring

McConaughey back. Yeah, it would have been, but

I mean, for what we got, I mean, for that, like,

one line... Ooh, it's organic. You know, for

that one line... What was that? I don't know.

That was blanks. Party on, dude! This is drunk

voice. Shut up. For that one line, it wasn't

that bad. You know, and Sentinel with this hull,

we must attack now, we must secure our position,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's a fucking

dumbass. Okay. The name's to Mars. Dumbass. Would

you prefer if the, uh, you know, the Autobots

chose a more inward -facing... in a stance and

kind of eschew all contact with the outside world.

First of all, the entire series since season

2 since well honestly even though we didn't really

meet Sentinel until season 2 episode 1 very first

episode when we see him on the viz screen when

Optimus shows him the cargo hold visual. He's

like, oh, I'll get Ultra Magnus now. Sentinel

has always been the character we love to hate,

and I know that's why they created him. I'm thankful

they did it to him rather than doing it to Rotimus.

But it's like, the dude isn't listening. Optimus

has told him several times at that point that

if they attack Omega Supreme, the transwarp energy

that he's overabsorbed... Like a sponge. It'll

explode. The planet will blow up. Hell, the entire

galaxy could blow up. I mean, that's kind of

like, you know, Spongebob blowing up or Patrick

losing a leg or something like that. I don't

know. Rattrap. What is that up in the sky? It's

a huge Macy's Day float. What are you doing up

there, grandpa? So make it supreme. Oh, yeah,

I didn't even yeah, you're right Macy's day parade

float omega supreme. That's what I first thought

He's just this floating thing up in the air.

What the hell is that? That would be awesome

Yeah, yeah omega supreme meets Snoopy Rat trap,

I mean a rattle trap rattle trap. Yeah, there's

one in every town Yes, yes there is. The plot

line about the human being on the robotic planet

and the robots fearing him, that's just another

way that they used the snot and the booger and

the spit. You know, I mean, you know, yeah He's

got this huge loogie that just kind of dangles

They never actually I don't know if this is something

that's like taboo in the cartoon world or something

You're not supposed to show little kids But it's

like you got the idea that there was this huge

loogie hanging off of his face But they didn't

show it they didn't show him spit it out and

they didn't show him suck it back up Oh, no,

they showed him sucking it back up. They just

didn't show it sucking back into his face because

in that scene Well, they showed it go back up

and then when they showed his face it was gone

already. Oh, you're right Yeah, I mean for all

they know he could have been hanging dangling

a dirty string or that's a big threat Oh, he's

nasty piece of string or something. I mean it

could have been a little tiny ball sack I'm going

to teabag you rattletrap. I mean it could have

been anything Exactly. It could have been anything

but but I mean, I don't know what The problem

was, was showing him actually, you know, spit

out a loogie and then suck it back up into his

mouth. But it seems as if they weren't supposed

to show that for some reason. It was in the script,

but we can't show it. Okay, like, I know they

do all kinds of different things in animated,

but seriously, how the fuck is Ratchet's windshield

a TV screen? I was gonna write that down too,

and I thought, you know, that's just too dumb.

So that's how the Autobots watch porn. They got

a big screen TV back at the plant. Why would

they need to watch it on each other's chest?

If they're on the go. Oh, I suppose. Portable

porn. That's itself they're for. That's so Bumblebee

can... You said it on me. That's so Bumblebee

can play video games on the go with Sari. What?

You have porn on your... Kidding. Yes, that's

that's that my phone that's Stop getting what

you have poured on your phone. Stop serious serious

Like the radio. No, no, no, not not not no serious

as in Siri Siri, oh, oh. That would require one

to have a smart phone to understand the joke.

Here's the joke. Here's Michael Wilson's head.

Meow. Exactly. It's like, I have a 4S and I use

Siri all the time and it didn't occur to me.

It's like, Siri, could you pull up my porn stash

for me? Certainly. Sentinel, online. Now loading.

Oh, God. I still want a sorry version of Siri.

No! That sounds like Tara Strong, you know? No,

no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'd be like... Would you

like the stuff on the right side or the left

side? It's like, sorry, who's your daddy? You

are! Now can we get back to business? Yes, we

can. I absolutely love... That Jazz has pretty

much def - he's still a lead guard, he'll still

follow Ultra Magnus, but as far as Sentinel goes,

he doesn't give a shit. He wants to be a part

of Optimus' crew. And - He's a traitor. Take

him away. God. Fuck Sentinel Prime. Off with

his head. Yeah, ain't that the truth. Sentinel

Prime is the queen of hearts. But no, I really

- Like jazz just like heaven does and I wish

we had more with him This is one of the one of

the many reasons why I wish we got a season four

because Supposedly jazz was supposed to stay

on earth with optimus's crew and I just I just

love jazz in this series Yeah, cuz they killed

prowl. So that that yeah that that replaced him

with a team Yeah, well they they had to you know

fill the quota so They put the much cooler character

Yes, see what would have been cool is season

four prime becomes Magnus and has to go to Cybertron

Jazz comes to earth and becomes jazz prime No,

that wouldn't happen. They put sentinel down

there. He's already a prime That's right put

him right in jail and he'd be like who's your

daddy I am bitch Who's your Magnus? Who's your

Magnus? You'll get that joke if you check the

art for the episode. That's funny. Robot Dame

in a room. Explains everything. Yeah, alright.

All your answers will be answered in this room.

Now, I was actually... Makes no sense. No, it

doesn't make any sense. All your answers will

be answered. Yes. All your questions will be

questioned! Yes, exactly. I was, when they started

fighting, when Ratchet and Shockwave started

fighting, and they ended up in Ultra Magnus's,

I guess, hospital room, I was hoping, hoping

and half expecting Ultra Magnus to wake up and

fight Shockwave when I first saw this episode

on TV. I was like, okay cool, Ultra Magnus is

there. Wait, he doesn't wake. He's just lying

there lifeless. What the hell? Yeah, he's dead

Jim He's not quite dead he's just out for the

count Yeah, and Oh knows he got RC I Like him

though in the end that she's awake and she remembers

ratchet. Yeah She's looking at earth and going

well because now we don't get to this till later

until endgame But she still has her memory I

mean she still has a you know bits and pieces

like it hasn't been tampered with yet to the

point where Hello young bots. I am teaching unit

six seven eight five eight three. Oh nine RC

RC You know six five Yeah, eight six seven five

three. Oh nine RC and then again back when the

episode first aired on TV I kid you guys not

at the end of this episode I fell out of bed

when I saw the true colors finally happen purple

shockwave and Mike pissed himself and the world

rejoiced fuck you no thank you I've had better

offers okay so what do you have for this is why

I hate machines Steve This is why I hate machines

there the title I Liked all the those the nice

references to all the previous generation of

Transformers Whether it be history locations

Brief views of Autobots that either a never got

real -time or at any time and still didn't this

time, but they just got a you know brief one

-liner or something enough to appease fans the

rat trap the rattle trap that's just kind of

piss poor hit at rat trap i mean i i see that

they tried they tried but they failed epically

they should have just stuck with the once again

for the one scene you know that he was in it

wasn't like You know, energon bad. It's... yeah,

it is. Yeah, it was pretty bad. I... yeah, they

honestly should have just stopped while they

were ahead. I wish they would have gotten Scott

McNeil just like you guys do, but... And again,

I don't get why they... like, I know, you know,

certain productions only have a certain amount

of budget and certain amount of things to go

after certain voice actors, but... They just

gave the voice to Tom Kenny. Now, don't get me

wrong. I love Tom Kenny. He's an awesome voice

actor, but... That's what they did with all of

McNeil's stuff, though. We need someone to do

that New York accent. Tom? Yeah. Yeah, so I would

have preferred to have seen McNeil reprise his

roles. But, you know, alas, that didn't happen.

It's too bad that they didn't see Scott McNeil

as a celebrity voice in the same way that they

saw Fred Willard or Weird Al. Yeah. I know. He's

like, awesome. Well, I mean, and again, as I've

said before in the podcast, it could have been

that maybe he was busy, maybe he denounced Transformers

after Beast Wars. No, not this guy. No, we didn't.

Are you shitting me? Did McNeil was in... beast

machines he was in armada he was an energon he

was in cybertron okay they just didn't ask him

back for animated yeah well the guy has been

pretty busy though um... looking at his credits

on IMDB uh... Dead Rising 2 Care Bears Max Steel

vs Toxic Legion Sanctuary Warhammer 40 ,000 uh...

don of war two uh... my little pony friendship

is magic he's uncredited but he's in it uh...

johnny test is mister white's uh... his latest

thing uh... is hiccups whatever the hell that

is haha no idea but the thing is though this

is a small part this is maybe half an hour worth

of taping that he could do in his home studio

or wherever he is and then they would just send

the mp3 file over to whoever It would even in

even in 2008. This was doable Yeah, you're right

It was just it was just shenanigans and complete

bullshit that they didn't have him do it Yeah,

I mean it's one thing to say hey, you know, it

would be really cool This let's have a rat trap

cameo, you know, we can't call them rat trap,

but it's rat trap and and not make an attempt,

you know to You know complete the pass if you

will Well, the rattle trap name is it's the Japanese

version of a rat trap I know right What was the

other reference you said to rat trap in Beast

Wars Well, there's also and I believe another

like g1 or g2 character called rattle trap to

Really I think I'm not a hundred percent. So

don't quote me on it, but I Want to say that

there is Rattletrap was among the crowd, welcoming.

Rattletrap apparently gave it to Omega Supreme.

Rattletrap's name was not spoken in the episode

which he appeared. It was listed in the end credits.

Rattletrap is an homage to Rattrap from Beast

Wars, specifically his Donna Futures past, Cybertronian

form. However, he is much more willing to work

with the enemy than the original was. Well, most

of the time. Comes off as a... Portman 2 of Rat

Trap's American name and his Japanese name, so...

Well his Japanese name was, I believe, Rattletrap.

Yes. Oh, no, I'm sorry, it was Rattle. It was

Rattle. Duh. So... Rattle and Rat Trap, that...

yeah, okay. Yeah. I mean, I don't mind it. You

know, it's a cool... all of the cameos in this

series are cool. I don't have an issue with any

of the cameos that they've ever done. Did you

swap power glide in this one? No, thank God.

Okay, I take it back. That's one cameo I have

an issue with. Power glide? I hate power glide.

Seriously? His appearance looks even better in

animated. Who? Power glide. Well, you kind of

saw him from the side view. There's a front picture

of him on wiki. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean in the

crowd scene He was sideways and the way his wings

fold up and form his shoulders. He has like these

It's like a surfboards on either side of his

head. It's kind of weird looking but it's like

optimal optimus Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'll buy that

I'll buy that for a dollar. It's like on top

of his shoulders and that under the side of his

head Yeah, they're farther out, you know kind

of like wings as opposed to Surfboard shoulders

overall. It wasn't a bad episode. I mean there

were plenty of nice moments in it and homages

and Opportunities to hate Sentinel even more

Right, but you know, it's it's pretty much just

a lead -up to the last two episodes. Oh, yeah

Yeah, but when the question becomes where is

everybody? I mean in the beginning you've got

ratchet babysitting the the space bridge and

They say, well, ball kid's gone, but they don't

say where he is. He's busy pantsing the Constructor

cons. Maybe they're all back at the at the plant

getting drunk off oil. OK, that's entirely possible.

I don't know. I'm just saying. And I mean, you

didn't really need the rest of the team. This

was a ratchet fan zone jazz. team up that you

you know that you know that they're on the cybertron

obviously you're gonna have the cybertronian

characters whether they be the cameos whether

it be sentinel or or or the elite guard or or

the council or you know whatever so i mean you

didn't really need the rest of what what the

hell could they have done and and and i think

a cutaway gag to say oh you know meanwhile back

on earth probably is playing you know snake eyes

versus torque three and bulkheads off squeaking

like a baby toy and prowls off getting in touch

with his processor over matter you know i mean

i think if you have a car wasting of that kind

of like what we mentioned in um... in the season

one family about the dot about some of them going

down about it was a useless scene and i'm glad

that they didn't have any useless scenes in this

episode Yeah, I agree to a certain extent. It's

just kind of strange that there's no prime. There's

no bulkhead. There's no bumblebee Everyone's

just kind of out taking a hike Maybe the voice

actors just kind of you know said screw it off

on to Vegas. There you go What else for this

is why I hate machines anything Michael I liked

at the end you got Megatron kind of purposefully

goading uh... lug nut oh yeah shockwave trans

purple and megatron says uh... my most loyal

servant and lug nut about drops a brick or he

drops a brick in the next episode oh yeah no

this is just the beginning of the rivalry but

the question becomes did megatron do this on

purpose knowing what was going to happen later

on in the next two episodes Well, this Megatron,

for the most part, the entire series, he's always

had a purpose and a plan behind his actions,

so I would say so, yes. Yeah, I mean, it'll actually

come out and say it. No. He doesn't come out

and say, yeah, I gotta get these two wild at

each other, so that just at the right moment,

the big dumb one will, uh... I don't wanna give

anything away, but, you know, the things will

work out exactly how I plan. Yep. Um, and then

there's a small scene where Ratchet flies. Does

he? Well, he kinda gets knocked down by Shockwave

in that fight scene, and Shockwave runs away,

and then you've got Ratchet, he's been knocked

into like a pit or whatever, and Panzer goes,

are you okay? And he starts levitating. Oh no,

he's not flying, he's using his magnets. To lift

himself. Yeah, but that's not flying. That's

not flying. He doesn't have a jet pack He doesn't

have the Magnus and I swear to God anyone can

fly with the Magnus hammer. You will believe

a ratchet can fly That was just about the same

time where he says I'm getting too old for this

shit, you know Which I mean a lot of good lines

on a ratchet on this episode It's a good ratchet

episode. But again, he's the only one in the

episode. So It's kind of hard not to yeah I mean,

you have to throw all the good lines to either

Ratchet or Fan Zone. I like Fan Zone's line,

this is why I hate machines some more than others.

I still think we need to go back and pull out

all the clips from where Fan Zone says, this

is why I hate machines. That would take forever.

In retrospect, there's probably about 20. It's

too bad there's not a site out there that, you

know, has all of the scripts written down. So

you could just like do a search for hate machines,

find all the instances, and then go back and

grab them. Because to my knowledge, no one's

done that before. Nope. Anything else for this

is why we hate machines? Nah. Nah. All right,

we are moving on. We need those codes to control

Omega Supreme. And if any bot can access them,

it is you, my ever loyal shockwave. Uh -oh. Looks

like Megatron has a new favorite. And I'll give

you a hint. It ain't you. Why about me, master?

Have I not served you loyally? That's a very

good question, young bot. Only the Allspark knows

for sure. Are you a thorn in Megatron's feet?

I risk Spark and Servo as a double agent on Cybertron.

Cybertron is our home planet. We must protect

it from the growing Decepticon menace. Menace.

Decepticon menace. Can't you shut her up? She

makes Blitzwing sound like he's got his head

screwed on straight. And finally we come to the

end of Transformers animated with the Endgame

two -parter. In part one, the Autobots discover

Omega Supreme's energy signal on the moon. Ratchet

insists on going there right away to save him,

but Prime refuses knowing that they are too weak

to fight Megatron. Ratchet, Sari, and Professor

Sundak build flight boosters for Optimus to even

the chances. I first note, because I was all

over the place really on this one, and I don't

even have that many notes. I mean, this episode

was so great, I just don't have... I just started

watching it for enjoyment. A bunch of backstories.

I mean we get Prowl's backstory, we get Optimus's

backstory, we get slightly more of R .C. and

Ratchet's backstory a little bit, but it's finally

nice to see why Optimus washed out. And it was

because of that whole organic planet ordeal.

Planet. Shmanit. Janet. Shut up. I mean, I agree.

I liked that they actually went back in and you

know that this happened You know that that's

why sentinel has been pissed at prime all these

years. You know that that's how black arachnia

Became black arachnia or I should say how a lead

a one became black arachnia Yeah, and that incident

has had these far -reaching consequences throughout

the whole series and now at the end you finally

find out well that is How he ended up washing

out. I mean he was lucky. He even got to be a

prime Yeah Yeah, but there's a lot of other flashback

scenes here that they basically showed how the

entire team came together How they know how each

of them met each other? Yeah, and we find a little

it was I was just kind of said that that they

Actually, I was about to say is that the second

the second episode that happens in or is it this

episode? What? No, I think it's this one. Yeah,

whether it was this episode where they show how

everybody met Yeah, and it was just yeah, I like

that I thought that was it was sad that they

had to kind of shoehorn this in at the end Rather

than give an entire episode to it later on Right.

Yeah And I like how they and we kind of get an

answer to where where prowl was I mean he was

I would assume after failing to protect the the

proto forms That's right. He failed to protect

the proto forms and then he went on his vision

quest so But that still doesn't make any sense

though Because if if he failed he he specifically

says in this episode I failed to protect the

proto forms and now I'm here with a bunch of

maintenance bots and He doesn't seem like the

prowl that we see in the first season Because

I don't know somehow it's in between The time

he failed to protect the protoforms to the time

that Yoki Tron died So I'm not sure I'm not sure

exactly where Prowl story fits in here No, I

think Prowl, you know when he first met Yoki

Tron, he was this young and he was almost like

a bumblebee character Yeah, and then he kind

of shaped up but he was still You know, I don't

want to say snobby but kind of full of himself

like well, I'm a cyber ninja and you're shit,

you know And that's pretty much how he started

off in the first season. Well, I clearly know

better than you do, because, hey, I'm a cyber

ninja. And over the course of, I wouldn't say

season one, but over the course of definitely

season two, he kind of matures. And you find

that it's not the parts that make the bots, it's

the bots that make the parts. And he learns these

lessons. And so finally, he reaches that point

where yeah he's a team player and well i don't

give too much away but you know he comes full

circle from where you first met him no he does

but the problem i have with this flashback is

this is from pretty much the same scene with

them on the rocks in transform and rollout this

is a scene that we had never seen though before

because In the premiere episode, Optimus is like,

where's Prowl? And he just shows up out of nowhere

basically saying that this scene that happened

now had already happened, they just didn't show

it to us. Well, right. I mean, this is where

they met. They had already met and been together,

I'm assuming for a while, not long while, but

for a while, in the first season. Yeah. And you

kind of got the impression that Prowl wasn't

really a part of this team Yeah, just by the

way he was acting because I mean that well the

whole team kind of acted as if they weren't really

a part of that You know, they're like, well,

you know prime is the leader But we really can't

work together very well at all and it took them

a while to work as a team I mean that was kind

of that was kind of season one shaping up and

they were just lucky that they were able to hone

their skills against human villains as opposed

to You know other other Cybertronians or Decepticons,

but no I think that this flashback Against it's

the first time they met prowl probably Within

a few years of the first episode But you know

he he fails it to You know protect the protoforms.

He leaves Cybertron to continue his vision quest

Because you know clearly he didn't he didn't

You know finish the vision quest he went back

to Yoko trying to tell him he had failed Right.

Yeah, so what is it? What else does he had to

do? I guess I'll just you know continue Yeah,

thank God Sentinel isn't in this episode And

that's surprising Thank God Well, you know we

got the other characters back in so we got some

out no prowler no jazz no no Sentinel Well jazz

well, no jazz. Well, yeah, no jazz was in it

I mean that they were in it in the in Optimus's

flashback, but they weren't like in it in the

current timeline of Sentinel being the complete

nutter fucking douchebag that he is And then

you know Starscream has expectations that are

abruptly shattered Along with his crotch It looked

like well, you know his upper torso is intact

it's just his legs that were blown off So I'm

thinking he shot him right in the dick It blew

his legs clean off If you're good if you're gonna

shoot somebody, you know, you're really pissed

I suppose that's where you do it. Yeah And of

course, because I guess I'm the only one that

remembers this, and I don't think I've ever even

read this piece of Transformers literature. I

think it was just a poster, actually. I always

make the Shattered Expectations reference when

I can, in reference to the BotCon 2008 teaser

for Shattered Glass with Shattered Expectations.

Oh. Yeah. No matter what people expected out

of that, everybody ended up happy. Oh yeah, exactly.

Lugnut Supreme, what the fuck? We need a Supreme

Class Omega Lugnut toy. No, we don't. They would

have to give you your Omega Supreme toy. That's

where they start. They start with a Supreme Class

Omega Supreme and then they follow it up with

a purple repaint. Right? With the, uh, with the

stripes around his arms. They don't necessarily

have to give him a new head. Just, you know,

paint a lug nut face on there. Or, or, or paint

a Starscream face on there. Or a Megatron face.

Or a Prowl face. Or wait, let's make it a triple

changer face where it rolls around like Blitzwing.

Speaking of Blitzwing, why the fuck is Blitzwing?

He, they mentioned him here briefly, didn't they?

they mentioned him well i mean that make megatron

says can't you shut her up she's you know you

know she said you know what's going sounds like

he's got her his head screwed on straight compared

to her but i mean but that but but that's it

what you know in all this time and i know you

have to go with your main characters obviously

lug nut shockwave shockwave almost took the place

of blitzwing which i don't you know don't i'd

rather have you know blitzwing and shockwave

rather than lug nut but What I mean, they don't

really explain where the fuck he is. I mean,

is he offline somewhere? Is he with the Concerticons

guzzling down oil? I mean, where is he? I don't

know. And my final note was just something that

Ratchet said, yeah. Didn't he get captured? Oh,

that's right. He's in the stock. No, wait, they

escaped. No, I think Lugnet escaped. Lugna ended

up bumping into Omega Supreme. Yeah, that's because

of the transwarp. Yeah, but I think Blitzwing

might have been captured. Right, but I wasn't

sure because I know he got free last episode

in the Superman freezing chamber episode. They

were free, but I think he might have gotten recaptured.

So yeah, that's where he is. He's sitting in

jail. Okay. Yeah, along with... the uh the sycophant

and the yeah swindle and well no swindle got

away oh yeah that's right he yeah he this was

only a week ago yeah so swindle swindle got i

was happy to see swindle get away i was like

you know and then lug nut got away but he he

ran into megatron but it was the uh the liar

and the suck up the clothes that's that's right

yeah Along with, yeah, so along with Blitzwing.

So that's where they are. It still doesn't explain,

I want to say, still doesn't explain where bulkhead

was in the last episode, but he's back in this

episode. Yeah. And then my final note was, like

I said, just something Ratchet said, yeah, definitely

going to need that hammer. It's hammer time.

Hammer. How you doing? Hammer, hammer, hammer.

Steve what did you have for part one of endgame?

Hmm part one Stop hammer time I Like the fact

that prime gets his almost Trying to think of

that Autobots name Wing blade Yeah, he gets that

that feature added on to him wing blademus prime.

Yes wing blade prime Like in the beginning ratchet

looks like he's building a g1 jetfire backpack.

Yeah It looks like g1 jetfires Rocket boosters.

It's very bandai. Oh, yeah But yeah, I like that

feature I like the fact that Starscream gets

shattered Yeah, you still can't die yet though

No. No, no, hold on. Yeah, we'll save that for

later. Yeah, you see Starscream crawling on the

ground going, I have plans! I like the fact that

they're like, that Optimus finally has to grab

the Magnus hammer. Yep. But you don't know what

he's going to do with it. And then you've got

giant versions of Lugnut. Omega Lugnut. Lugnut

supreme. Omega Nut. Unlock the Omega Nut. Wow.

My only, I think it's this episode, my only real

complaint, and I'm just thinking of this as Steve's

going along here, but only real complaint is

there isn't a good quality version. Anywhere

even it even in the original TV airing because

of the jetpack sound there isn't a good quality

version of Excellent. Yes Because they specifically

asked David to do that as optimists Yeah, and

his first flight. Yeah He's channeling his inner

Megatron inner Megatron. Yes, you bet he didn't

go excellent. Yes army of excellent yet that's

what had to be an optimist's voice because it's

optimist it's not megatron but he could have

been a bit like begin with and then yeah like

i'd like i said only i mean and yes yeah who

said that it was the joke convoy oh god so convoy

uh... i'll be back Yes Yes I will kill you I

Think that's pretty much it. I like the episode

overall. I just I Wish there would have been

another season to see how far they would have

actually taken this. Oh Yeah, right Michael what

about you? I like in the beginning how lug nut

and shockwave are arguing over who's the better

minion. Yeah And he has Sarah scream he's kind

of egging them on It's like are you gonna take

that shit from him? Oh, no, he did He's just

ahead Yeah, he's ahead of his time And can you

imagine if we had transformers animated versions

of uh, Gru's Minions. Banana! Butt! The Minions

from Despicable Me. Oh yeah! That would be so

awesome! Except those should've been Lugnuts.

They kinda looks animated already. Yeah. Anyway.

They should've been the Lugnut Supremes. That

would be awesome. They would've just poked the

Autobots or sat on them and went... God that

was creepy. Yeah All right. What else Michael

channeling his inner minion? I Know you mentioned

this earlier amongst ourselves, but one of the

coolest scenes here is Starscream is trying to

get mega trying to tell him what what the plan

is for the protoforms You know seeing as though

he already destroyed all of his all of his on

other clones There's Starscream clones, and you

know he says well. Are you gonna clone yourself,

and he goes Bigger and he says you're not gonna

clone, you know lug nut out there and he's like

bigger and lug nut falls over and Shockwave actually

laughs at him, which I thought was funny because

it's You know, you know by all by all means should

not have a sense of humor, but he's like So he

says uh bigger He's like well, what are you talking

about? He looks over at omega supreme and he's

like, oh, yeah Okay, and at this point he's already

got, you know, giant purple Omega Supreme skeletons

built on either side of him Yeah in the background.

So if you look you can see it and it's like well,

you know, I realize you're short, you know What

you can't you see out the window and it's going

on here Just smell what the Meg's is cooking.

Oh God Sorry about that Wow bigger that's funny

Bigger I can't really do a megatron and that

I don't do voices As I predicted the processor

over matter has become the new sorry ski Yes,

it's like well, I really don't know how we're

gonna manage this. Well, I know we'll do process

over matter and and It's funny because you've

got a Prowl, you know kind of in his lotus position,

you know meditating and it's like The Allspark.

It's in the tree. The rock. It flows around us

and binds us together. You're all supposed to

applaud my Star Wars reference there. Come on,

guys. No, no. Let it flow, Prowl. Oh, anyway.

But I don't want to get too far ahead of myself.

But eventually you get jazzed in on it, too.

And they're both doing the process of overmatter.

Huh Prime's first flight reminds me of that scene

in Iron Man. Oh Yeah, yeah where he's trying

to figure out how to fly and messing up horribly

and and landing on his Ferrari I'm totally should

have landed on the Ferrari On the other hand

they did show slipstream Yes, just for a moment

just long enough for her to go. What the hell

see ya But it was nice to see her again She's

still out and about But that's uh, it's pretty

much all I got for for part one I was gonna say

in other words trying to talk about people that

we're missing in part two Megatron lands on what's

left of Dinobot Island And yet we never see the

dinobots and I'm assuming black or acne is still

there, too Yeah, I'm assuming she is as well

well that's what kind of pisses me off about

this this final episode we see megatron landing

there on that one island with lug nut supreme

clones crescent moon island now yeah exactly

check all along wrong the goodly chunk of the

island was teleported away with black wrecking

on it right and we don't know where she is right

it's possible that abouts are on that too it

well maybe that abouts with the peace force to

maybe that abouts are on some other part of the

crescent But they didn't show up. It would've

been nice to see them. I'm assuming that they're

still on Dinobot Island, but my biggest problem

with this part one is... And really it's the

biggest problem for the entire series is... They

give the Dinobots complete and utter shit. There's

no character development for them. They show

up, Grimlock specifically, shows up for like

five seconds every three or four episodes and

that's it. I mean, the only fun part with Grimlock

was when he, you know, Black Arachnia forced

him to team up with Optimus. That was the only

real fun part with Grimlock. Other than that,

they're basically throwaway characters here.

I mean, granted, I know, you know, Simon Furman

wasn't, you know, throwing around his Grimlock

dick in this series, but still, it's like, you

know... I mean, do something with him. I complain

about them not showing up. Here in particular

because hey, we're trying to wrap up all the

loose ends I mean it was the same thing in the

last season finale where it was like, where are

they? You know, they showed up in the first season

finale to no effect the second one They they

glossed over them the third one they glossed

over them. But here it's more important because

we're not coming back There's not gonna be another

chance to see them again So it's like maybe not

knowing that ahead of time. Sure. Maybe it was

easy to gloss over them, but here it's like you

know it would have been nice for Megatron to

land on the island and Grimlock to stick his

head up and go get off my island and Megatron

shoot him a look and he'll be like okay i'm sorry

you know we gotta wander back into the woods

it would have been worthless but it would have

been nice seeing as though this is the end of

the series yes yeah i don't know it's just one

of those things where it's like what the hell

Well, it's it's sad that it's all coming to an

end anyway and with that Yeah endgame part two

The three Lugnut Supremes touch down on Earth

and launch a full -scale assault on Detroit.

While Optimus Prime and Prowl fight the Lugnut

Supremes and take one down, Ratchet, Bulkhead,

Bubblebee, and Sari head to the moon to rescue

RC and reactivate Omega Supreme. Starscream then

takes over the remaining two Supreme clones and

initiates their self -destruction. Prowl begins

to gather the Allspark fragments to block the

explosion, including Starscream's fragment, killing

Starscream for good. Failing together enough,

Prowl sacrifices his spark and makes an all -spark

force field that surrounds the last self -destructing

Starscream Supreme. Megatron attacks one last

time but is defeated and arrested by Optimus.

The Autobots have won, captured Megatron, Shockwave,

Lugnut, and returned to Cybertron with Prowl's

body and several rescue protoforms that Master

Yokotron died protecting. Again, so much action

in this. I mean, it's so awesome. The Shockwave

battle was great with, I mean, it's mainly for,

the reason why it was great was because it's

Shockwave kicking the Autobots afts. I mean,

it really is. Bumblebee and Bulkhead are like,

oh, we'll handle Shockwave. You fuck nuts. You

can't handle anything. You can't handle a pepperoni

pizza. That's right. Did somebody order extra

sausage? Wow, that's how they like it The clone

supreme battle I really liked We finally get

I mean we kind of got it in transform rollout

on a board omega supreme But we finally get an

open world battle with optimus and Megatron And

of course my name is optimus prime So you can

remember my name. Yeah, so you can't remember

my name. Sorry. Okay, sorry. She goes from the

key holder. She goes from being the key master,

you know, where's the gatekeeper when you really

need it. But, you know, she goes from that to

being a Cybertronian telepath. What the fuck?

I think I like this better. I mean I think after

a while you get sick of the key coming to the

rescue every episode and here it's just you know

it's not so much coming to the rescue that's

the process or matter but here she's just she's

finding a use for herself because otherwise she

kind of lacks a use. Otherwise she's useless.

RC gets her memory back. So yay for that processor

over matter to reconstitute the all spark seriously

I Love jazz. I love jazz as a ninja bot, but

this is the dumbest thing in the world Why is

should they have killed jazz? No No, okay. What

I don't understand is that we're gathering up

all of the all spark on the planet Using the

processor over matter, but they're skipping the

three biggest chunks Now where are they? They're

in the lug nut oh That's right there in the lug

nut supreme. Yeah Each one has a has a huge chunk

of the all -spark in it now They managed to rip

the tiny little fragment that was in Starscream

keeping him alive Yeah, but not Not the larger

pieces that are in the Lugnut Supremes. And also

I might add that out of the... I want to say

out of the Dinobots and or Slipstream. I'd like

to assume that she's still floating around somewhere.

Yeah. Omega is back! That was awesome when they

finally got the codes back on him and he just

came in and kicked some ass. Yay! Lugnut lost

control. What oh? Oh, yeah, I don't make it comes

back Yeah, I was gonna say the the Omega versus

Omega battle in Detroit looks a lot like a Godzilla

movie. Oh, yeah He's literally just picking them

up. Oh Yeah, he's picking them up and just sawing

him in the buildings and it was really cool for

those who like Godzilla Look, he's Godzilla.

No, it's a reasonable fact similarly due to copyright

laws. We can't say Godzilla Forget what movie

that's from Starscream gets his spark shard ripped

right the fuck out of his head Yeah, I think

they killed a lot of people They did. Well, maybe

not a lot, but more than I would have expected.

I certainly wouldn't have expected Starscream

to die. That was pretty rough. Well, he certainly

doesn't have a mutant indestructible spark. Or

he's not a ghost. Yeah, not this time. Well,

what would have been cool with Starscream's ghost?

Uh, there's a Prowl's ghost. Huh? There's Prowl's

ghost. No. In the well, we might be getting ahead

of ourselves here, but in the end Prowl sacrifices

himself right and dies right and at that I want

to say there there's a there is a force field

around the final lug nut club at this point a

Starscream supreme Right, and he's about to explode

and prime and megatron are stuck inside that

force field So what this thing blows that they've

both had it, right? Right, and suddenly something

appears behind the prime And teleports them both

out You gotta look really closely and it's like

is that prowl How's that had to have been yeah,

cuz there's a way Cuz I was like cuz I was watching

it earlier today, and I was like wait what the

fuck Optimus doesn't have teleport powers well

something rescued well. No he's got that doesn't

he no not to propose got that Yeah, but Prowl's

dead, so it's like the ghost of Prowl Yeah, I'd

like to think there's a ghost of Starscream out

there, too No, not in this series. He's dead.

He's deader than dead. Ghost of Starscream would

rule. But, you know, he hits the ground, and

my first thought was, okay, he's no longer indestructible.

He can die now, but he's still alive, right?

No. No, he's dead. Gray is dead. Yeah. Gray is

dead. Yeah, I was... I don't know. He's dead

for good, and I kind of felt bad about that,

but then we get that little glimmer of hope with

the Prowl's ghost. And then, you know, Optimus

raising the hammer to strike the final blow,

and of course he misses by two inches. That would

be the easy way out, Megatron. You don't deserve

it. There's no transition from that scene to

the next. I mean, there isn't a fade. It's just

a complete hard jump cut. I was like, wow, really?

And then we get them and all the... the captives

coming off the ship and what does optimus have

around his neck lo and behold the biggest mcguffin

in transformers history the matrix of leadership

the motherfucking matrix i didn't even notice

that he had the matrix or was it just the are

you seriously did not notice that i i you know

i saw the huge hammer i didn't see the matrix

of leadership i'll have to go back and look actually

no he's on the wiki picture yeah well He sent

us a picture, too. I'll have to go back and look

at the picture. But yeah, I can't believe I missed

that. Let me go back and peek. Here, hold on.

I got it. What do you got for this episode, Steve?

I love the fact that they actually kill a bunch

of people off. Yes, yes, they do. Just because

I don't care for them anymore. It's a kids show,

though. I'm really surprised that. They've been

calling people often shows for years. He does

have the matrix around his neck. That is awesome

You know so he's not only does he have the Magnus

hammer, but he has the matrix. Can you imagine

a season four? I'm I'm really surprised. He doesn't

just you know look right at Sentinel says take

it motherfucker. I dare you He's got Megatron's

what? He's got Megatron right behind him and

he's kind of, you know, he's kind of tied to

a gurney almost. Well, yeah, he has to be tied

to a gurney because he's got, he's got ropes

around his legs too. Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't

have like the Hannibal Lecter mask around his

face. That would have been the opposite. This

isn't Sentinel. That's true. All the other ones

had the Hannibal Lecter mask, yeah. Now, I think

at the end, Well, first of all huge epic ending

it was awesome Omega supreme transforms and the

crowd goes nuts That was that was cool. But give

us some closure, you know prime should be able

to keep the hammer We should have optimus magnus

That just that's You know, give us two more seconds

of footage have sentinel needle in front of prime

and say my least you know or something That will

never happen. Give us that no stevie everyone

else did you want to say about this one uh...

i'm glad it's the end falls off are you glad

because it ended so well or are you just like

your second both uh... it's a good day to end

the series right it's a good day to die as far

as You know, the other thing, I just now notice

this looking at the image of them carrying Prowse

Coffin and Megatron and Optimus with the Matrix

and the Hammer. If you look over to the bottom

left, there's Sari floating in the background,

and it reminds me of the Transformers the movie

theatrical poster, where you have Ultra Magnus

looking up at Unicron with his blaster, and in

the background you have Galvatron coming in with

the Decepticons, you have Hot Rod and V... It's

one of those foreground background shots where

it's like, hmm, I never noticed that before.

I didn't notice lug nut back there, to be honest.

I was just wondering, who's got the huge stasis

cuffs? What are those? And no, it's lug nut back

there. Yeah, it's lug nut. This is just an awesome

picture. Yeah, it is. This is, yeah, this is

just epic. So awesome. So very, very awesome.

What else did you have for, so are you done,

Steve? Do you not want to talk anymore? No, I

don't. I hate it at all. I hate it every second.

No, I didn't hate it. I hate awesome things and

homages and precedents. No, I like those aspects

of the show. I just I'm tired of Transformers

animated, honestly. I could settle for another

season. If they were to have done another season,

I can't deny I would like it. Like just because.

I hated it all except for that fourth season

that never happened They left this this season

finale with you actually wanting to see more

oh yeah So I I definitely would have been stoked

to see what they would have done in season 4

considering all the decepticons are captured

and Prime has the Magnus hammer and the matrix

The only thing that really didn't that the only

cons that really didn't get captured is whoever

else is left out there in the galaxy Outside

of team char. I mean team char never got captured

Oh, I never mentioned them and I'd want to see

Rodimus prime or Rodimus major whatever become

Prime second and command Now I will say that

you know something that does tie into this is

this year's 2011 BotCon comic because you have

that scene with this and again the protoform

stasis pods are just like you know scattered

all over the ground but you have the scene with

Megatron with Optimus with the Matrix, Lugnut,

Shockwave You know, Bulkhead and Jazz and Ratchet.

And then of course it goes into what the story

of the comic is, but at the end... Oops, that's

the credits page. Where the hell is the last

page of this damn comic? At the end of this comic

you have Team Char coming after Megatron, coming

to release Megatron and the Stunakons and all

that. I mean, they did kind of continue it in

comic form. It would be great if it was animated,

you know, animation -wise, but overall, you know,

I guess I'm happy with what we have. I mean,

everybody wanted a season four. Everybody did.

But it just didn't happen, and I was like, fuck

you, Hasbro. No, no, it's more like fuck you

Cartoon Network in your live -action bullshit

Well, you have to understand at the time the

the sequel to the movie was kicking in and Worst

sequel ever it was the worst sequel ever but

it sold an assload of toys and made an assload

of money and Is that a new measurement an assload?

It's the volume of toys that you can fit into

your ass. Yes There is a toys you can steal from

target. There is a precedent here and I know

you all hate precedents There's a president here

with the first movie that came out the first

movie made an assload of money and sold an assload

of toys I mean as much as I hated the movie toys

they sold a lot of movie toys and that Christmas

was just made for movie transformer toys and

Then those kind of trickled away and they they

brought out the Transformers animated toys Now

that was all well and good up until the next

movie came out in which case they said okay We're

we're having trouble selling some of these shelf

warmers to begin with let's let's get rid of

this whole line and You know introduce the the

transformer toys for the second movie Yeah, well

what was really show -forming and what I really

saw in like even like bargain stores You're not

really bargain stores, but like weird places.

I would find oil slicks in like Walgreens and

stuff like that. I was like really Wow, why do

they still have animated oil slick? Exactly.

Yeah, why is he still here? Well, because he

was in the show But if you if you try to find

like a skywarp good luck you try to find a wreck

are good luck You know, I mean well even toward

the end there like there was a whole snafu at

Target where they sold off those gift packs for

five bucks each I Must have bought like four

of each because they were supposed to be like

24 25 bucks and for some reason one weekend they

were all in cell for five and And I don't know.

It just seemed like the writing was on the wall

that this Particularly lie wasn't selling as

well. Definitely not as well as the movie toys

and once the new movie came out That was it.

No more series. No more toys and you couldn't

find the ones that you wanted and I had a heck

of a time finding a record I had a heck of a

time finding a skywarp. I had the I had to go

online to find a skywarp I think I got mine from

entertainment earth You know and the movie toys

again Metric ass load, you know So I don't know

I mean I from from a toy is selling point of

view which again is the name of the game here

They're not selling DVDs or selling toys It may

it would have I hate to say it would have made

sense at the time to cancel the series Still

what else do you have for a part two for in -game?

Who me? Yes, you I got plenty In the beginning

You know, we ended up with the lengthy, extended

transformation scene for Bulkhead and Bumblebee.

I already know how to transform those toys, god

damn it. You know, I haven't seen these, well,

I don't want to say these particular transformations,

because it's like, maybe they did show them way

back in season one. They did. Yeah, and it's

like, well, why are we seeing them again here?

I mean, is there not enough stuff going on that

we need two minutes of transformation? They probably

wanted to remind people how to transform the

toys. No, I'm not even sure if those toys were

still for sale At that point I think you can

only find like The white bumblebee activator

if you were lucky maybe one of those leader class

bulkheads sitting around With the headmaster

unit the box. Yeah, but no, it's like wow We

haven't seen these in a long time and and like

you said at the end they they didn't even have

any transitions between the end panel and Cybertron

and there's no bootlicking going on for Sentinel

Prime. No, there wouldn't be any bootlicking

going on for him. I mean, that would have been

nice if they could have gotten rid of these,

you know, maybe two, possibly three minutes of

transformation scenes that we've already seen

three seasons ago. Maybe they couldn't include

is it to put in a fade out to fade it like fade

out to black fade into black I mean they do that

all the time. I Mean again, they ran out of time

the editing room They just didn't have time for

because we have two minutes of transformation

in the beginning It early says my explanations

seconds to put a fade out fade in I mean that

you know This is a true hard transition. It was

like it was like, you know Grandis stomped on

the floor in the club and and the record started

skipping or something I mean, that's what it

felt like to me. It felt like a record skip and

I was like really that Yeah Megatron's WMDs destroyed

the transitions Yeah gets away from my weapons

of mass destruction What kills me is is The last

episode you got ratchet the whole time telling

prime you're gonna have to use the hammer and

he's like I'm not gonna use the hammer Come on

use the hammer. He's like, I'm not gonna use

the hammer. So finally he picks up the hammer

and His first shot misses How does that even

work and then he's arguing with a hammer like

it's a he's talking to it Open damn it open You

know he's like look. I know you don't think I'm

a hero, but come on You know work with me here,

and it's like dumbass point it straight. You

know Hammers don't kill people people who hold

hammers kill people It didn't make any sense

to me, but then you know he pulls off this epic

movie he he turns into Thor yeah, and he spins

into a I Don't know what would what is what is

Thor's tornado called a tornado? I hear my dubbit,

Thornado. Yeah, I... Oh, God. Great. You're pulling

from Frank's Rumors vocabulary to Marvel Universe

Comics vocabulary. Lovely. Thornado. So Prime

pulls a Thornado that manages to take out all

three Omega... Well, take out one Omega Lugnut

and disable the other two so that they can't

fly. Yeah. And that, you know, that's kind of

cool. I'll take that, sure. Yeah. It's funny.

I'm actually looking over here at my Energon

line Omega Sentinel and yeah, it's like how hard

would it have been to have an Omega Supreme?

I mean I got this thing It's like admittedly,

this is a kind of a cool toy, but you know, I

got this thing Why couldn't I have it? Yeah anyway,

because you can probably for the same reason

I don't have an animated blackout or an animated

wing blade prime or Moving right along. This

is the time for closure. It's not the time to

open up new plot lines. Sorry, communes with

a protoform. She's touching it and it's glowing.

She's communing with it. But we don't know what

she finds out. Exactly. She's like, I suddenly

know why I'm here. Why? Tell us. Enlighten us,

you dumbass. I know I want to get Marty Eisenberg

on the phone and go Marty what what the hell

seriously, man? Yeah What what were you thinking?

Tell us what tell us what was gonna happen? Well,

what happened here was we were a little drunk

that night and Well, I mean I understand that

maybe they didn't Absolutely know that they were

gonna get canceled. They had a pretty good idea

I even brought it up to Marty when I met him

at that bot con I said, you know the new movies

coming up Do you think you're gonna see a season

four and he said well, I hope so Yeah, it's like

alright seriously, you know, let's let's be objective

about this, you know, I mean I didn't push him

on it It was just like yeah. Well, hey, good

luck, dude, you know enough I go. Yeah, but still

it was like, ah, that's not very satisfactory

I mean, I'm really gonna hate it if you guys

get canceled and they did But I don't know it

it seems unfair again to use that time to open

up a new plot line when number one you know we're

not seeing any dino bots in this episode uh to

say goodbye dino bots you know we're not seeing

you know what happened to other characters we're

not seeing prime become magnus uh with his giant

bling around his neck there's other things that

we could have focused on rather than two and

a half minutes worth of transformation crap well

and new plot lines Yeah, I mean granted they

kept this to a minimum and it was nice to have

sorry I Don't know become enlightened. I'm not

sure exactly. I mean, maybe if you change the

line if she had said something like hey, I Honestly

don't know what she could have said other than

nothing It's like it's like what could she have

said that not would have made us Cry and roll

around on the floor and go what do you mean?

Yeah speaking of crying Who else cried when when

the prowl sacrificed himself Not me. I was tearing

up. I don't know that he died. No, I I like him.

I like prowl and he's like, you know what I gotta

save I gotta save the world man, and there's

only one thing I can do and jazz is like We can

find another way. He's like the the only thing

I have to say is whatever Prowl can do jazz can

do better You know, would you have rather seen

jazz die? Kind of got that in the first movie,

I mean Megatron ripped the shit in half but That's

true, but I mean Prowl is okay in this series.

He's he's not obviously, you know, this series

has to differentiate itself, but it also wants

to homage stuff here and there but I don't know

I Just don't like okay Here's like worst like

the worst of the worst to like not so bad Bumblebee

and bulkhead are the worst of the worst of the

Autobots. Well, okay is it is like like six notches

above them let's explore that then you know you've

got you've got pro and jazz saying someone's

gonna have to sacrifice themselves to give up

their spark in order to save the world you know

who's it gonna be you know and they all look

over at bumblebee and bumblebee says why are

you all looking at me why is everybody always

looking at me but i will give bumblebee some

credit in this in this two -parter because he

was smart He wasn't clumsy, he didn't do anything

stupid, well, besides getting the transmitter

stepped on, or falling debris dropped on it.

He fixed it. Not really. No, the idea there was

to put a bugging device there so they could hear

what was going on, and he did. He turned on RC's

transmitter, and that was the same thing. In

fact that might even been better because it's

possible that that huge box that he got squished,

you know could have been found out Yeah, that's

true. Yeah, no, I think I think he again come

a long way one more season Maybe he could have

been a lead guard material He he had his one

shining moment in this episode where he wasn't

a dumbass Shockwave and his viciousness. I mean

After she tells him the code can be retrieved.

He just yanks the wires right out of her head

At least she didn't die. I mean, I think that

bringing her back I mean again, sorry kiss kind

of communes with her first heard her corpse right

for a second and says Oh, yeah, all you gotta

do is X Y & Z and boom. She's back. Yeah, it's

like how long has she been dead? How long is

Right. Well, I don't want to say brain -dead

how long she been a vegetable ratchet has spent

the last nine million years Being a grumpy old

man because his entire life had changed drastically

the day he had to kill her Yeah, and now oh she's

back and all I had to do was point at her and

That's you know as much as I've said throughout

this entire podcast so far and you know this

will probably the last time i say it because

the last five episodes are more of the merchandising

and all that stuff of the brand but this is a

ratchet story but that guy never fucking ages

even when he was a cybertronian you know i think

he was skinnier he didn't have the potbelly he

was skinnier and he had a big giant x on him

talk about a moving friggin target a giant x

on his fucking chest The old bot never really

aged in this series. I mean, he went from being

old to being older. Kind of. You know, let's

put it this way. There's a lot of killing in

this episode. Starscream dies, Prowl dies. It

would have been very easy for Shockwave to reach

out, tear that harness off her head, and for

her to drop down and turn gray. True. that in

that number one shockwaves badass and vicious

number two RC is dead and ratchet although he

would be crushed it wouldn't belittle his his

uh you know his whole life's journey no he is

the way he is because he had to kill RC well

not kill her but fry her brain all those years

ago yeah but but my point here is the guy like

all right i can believe That optimus because

he he does have us. Well, everyone has a Cybertronian

form Everyone has an earth mode right but optimus

in his flashback. I can believe that optimus

is younger I can believe he looks and acts younger

at that time even in the flashback when they

went to that that planet I believe that optimus

is younger with ratchet They only gave him a

different paint job and a different elbow. His

face is smooth. It's not all bumpy and stubbly.

His crest is still there. He's not as pot -bellied.

He moves a little bit more. He's younger, it's

obvious. He's still old. He's younger, but he's

still old. He's, let's say, middle -aged, not

a crotchety old guy. I'd say when he's on Cybertron

in those flashbacks, he's probably 45 when he's

on earth. He's like 65 That's all right. I'll

buy that. Sure. Okay. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah,

I agree But I mean, you know pushing 40 myself.

I'm not I'm not ready to yes, sir Ready to say

45 is ancient. Oh my god put that guy out to

pasture. Yeah You were out to pasture a long

time ago. Tell me about it uh... starscream pulls

the old bomb in the clone trick again it didn't

work the first time it didn't work the first

time and then megatron this is the only stupid

thing i've ever seen megatron do in the series

he goes to cut it and it electrocutes him seriously

you wouldn't think starscream would have some

sort of planted place for that search came is

Reacting from the great. Well, I shouldn't say

from the grave. He hasn't died yet He doesn't

know that he's gonna die yet, but he's Yeah,

anyway And the cyber ninja jam he's like you

know when they get together to do the to do the

the the summoning of the all -spark shards Yeah,

it reminded me a lot of like the ending of every

Final Fantasy game I've ever played Well, if

you look at the end of, let's say, Final Fantasy

VII, because that's my favorite of the series,

and it's very Gaia -ish. You've got all of the

mana on the planet suddenly uprooting and flying

toward this one central location, and that looks

a lot cooler than what we got here. I mean, it

was kind of neat to see it coming out of the

water, coming out of the mountain, and coming

out of wherever. Converging and forming into

a new all spark, but You know at the same time.

It's like well You know it could have been neater.

It could have been very Gaia ish You know when

I'm surprised this didn't happen. I know ratchets

off doing his own thing and everybody else was

on earth fighting with the Supremes, but I'm

I kind of wish I knew a supreme song that tosses

in there, you know Yeah You know I I almost wish

that they would have made the reference of You

know you just stop You get weak you have to sit

down for a moment What is it what happened? It's

like a million voices cried out, and then we're

silenced See now I pull out of Star Wars reference

in Oh, thank God. You got the reference. I was

going to say, what the fuck? If you don't get

that reference. You pull out a Star Wars reference,

and it's like, oh. I pull out a good Star Wars

reference, and it's like, yeah, whatever. STFU.

It's just like, all right, fine. Thanks, bitches.

I hate you all. What else for end game? Is that

it for end game, or do you got some else stuff?

Pretty much. I mean, I just want to reiterate,

I love the ending. I may complain a little bit

about, oh, they're still hoping and trying for

a season four, and they're pushing these little

nuggets out there to create new plot lines. But

even so, the ending here was epic. It was just

awesome. There's no... I don't know if there's

a way they could have done this any better. And

what made it even better was the music under

it heroes welcome by Sebastian Evans the second

That was some epic music See now every time I

think of this all I can think of is like and

I hate to say this but the I want to say the

Star Wars music in the at the end of the re remastered

You're talking about in A New Hope, or are you

talking about in Jedi? No, I'm thinking of at

the end of Jedi, yeah. Oh, God, with the city...

No, this is... As much as I love John Williams

and the Star Wars scores, this was more epic

than them showing the cities. I honestly can't

remember what this music sounded like, though.

I'll play it for you during the break. Okay.

I'm sure it was awesome, because, I mean... The

music is an integral part to every moving scene.

And this was moving. It was like, wow, this is

pretty amazing. I think, again, I know they were

short on time, short on resources. It would have

been nice to have made a little more room for,

you know, say, Prowl's body. You know, they show

them carrying it down the ramp. But, you know,

Dinobot got a memorial. You know, I want a memorial

for Prowl. I'm not entirely sure what was in

those other pods. Are they the proto forms the

ones that weren't destroyed? Well, I know if

I thought they were the proto forms that were

destroyed No, because not all of them weren't

like no no because Megatron inserted three proto

forms into the into this lug supreme clones,

right? He had a whole bunch of other ones. He's

like ooh I have plans for these proto forms kind

of like Beast Machines Megatron plans for the

sparks, but he's only got three No, he doesn't

just have no there was more than three proto

forms there were there I thought there was like

three just kind of like There had to have been

at least six because there are three stasis pods

just randomly next to optimus and lug nut at

the end scene but no those were the proto forms

because when sorry was in there after they vacated

that that part of megatron's base or whatever

else after they went off to earth yeah there

and she communed with right okay or so okay i'll

buy that right there's at least one i mean there

there has to be at least one proto form there

i don't know yeah no no that makes sense i just

thought they have one coffin we'll put it that

way And it made me think the other ones lying

there were dead bodies too, and they're just

kind of haphazardly tossed on the ground. That's

funny. No, I still think it would have been nice

to have a little more closure here. I don't know.

I mean, I thought that with the comic series

that was released, and I know it ended after

like four issues. or something, but that would

have been nice maybe to show us what happened.

I haven't personally read the Stuntacon job.

Oh, you have to read it. It's awesome. It mainly

focuses, obviously, on the Stuntacon since that's,

and it's mainly side -swiped story, but just

seeing those beginning images of, they start

with the end shot of what we get here of You

know, Optimus and all them standing around. And

then it goes to Optimus and Sentinel, and yeah,

you gotta read that comic. Oh, see, now if it

goes to Optimus and Sentinel, is Sentinel still

Magnus? Yes. So they're showing the closure here

that I'm hoping for, and yet I haven't actually

read it. That kind of blows. I need to get a

copy of this. So anyway, which makes me much

less informed. yes and you can't just read wiki

to get the info either yeah because i tend to

do that yes yes you do wiki is your friend sometimes

unless it's false information all right so that's

that's pretty much it for endgame you know as

we've said it's a an awesome ending we wish there

was more sadly there isn't an animation there

isn't comics a little bit We're gonna go to some

ads then we're gonna head to Cybertron to hear

Kevin's final thoughts and we'll come back to

close the show He gave up his spark to save us.

Waiting for Autobot finish me That would be the

easy way out Megatron you don't deserve it Transformation

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Hey guys, it's Optimus Solo, your Cybertronian

correspondent reporting in. One last time from

Cybertron with my thoughts on the final three

episodes of Transformers Animated. Before I get

to that, I just wanted to clear up another couple

things from last episode. First of all, I don't

know why you guys thought I was bashing Predacons

Rising. I gave the episode a 7 slash 6 out of

10. I enjoyed the episode. It was a solid episode.

I just had a few minor problems. So I was not

bashing that episode at all. You guys might want

to re -listen to my clip. And the other thing,

just because something has a precedence or has

been done before or has something connected to

it in G1, doesn't mean I should say, oh, well,

then it's alright in Transformers animated. Just

because something is paying homage or because

there is a precedent set for it doesn't make

it okay. It's not okay if you do it terribly.

Yes, there was Headmasters and that type of stuff

in G1, so there was sort of human slash Transformers

in G1. That was nothing even similarly remotely

close to what happened in... the episode I refuse

to talk about. So not only is it comparing apples

and oranges, it's comparing rotten apples to

oranges. So you guys are just way off on, or

at least Michael Wilson's off on this whole just

because it has a precedence or because it's happened

before in Transformers mythos or lore makes it

okay to bastardize it in a current incarnation.

We can talk about that in episode 16, I guess.

But getting on to episode 40, which is the 11th

one of season 3. This is why Hate Machine is

written by Rob Hoge. I have no idea if that's

how you actually say his last name, but that's

how I'm going to say it. The major nitpick I

have for this episode, and it's a major nitpick

amongst the episode, it's not something I was

real stuck on, but there really is no introduction

to this episode. It just kind of starts and you

really... are kinda like, what the heck is going

on? There was no getting you into the story or

into the action. It was just starting and you

were kinda confused. Most people probably were

at the beginning of it. It's kinda like, what

the heck is going on right here? So this episode

did lack an introduction, but that is about one

of the only things wrong with this episode. It's

cool seeing the political side of Cybertron.

That Trax cameo was maybe my favorite cameo of

the entire series. That was awesome. He looked

cool. He had a great homage voice there. That

was cool. Starscream's scenes have been awesome

for the entire third season. Starscream has been

stealing scenes over and over again and it's

really cool. The council was cool to see in the

actual environment that they were in. up close

and in person in this episode. Another little

tiny, tiny thing, there's no need to show actual

snot coming out of Falzone's nose, and there

was no reason for it. to be a hanging wad of

spit at that one point that could have had some

other way of illustrating that point that was

disgusting. And why are Falzone's eyes always

shut? But anyways, Shockwave's one of his best

episodes of all time in this series, I shouldn't

say of all time, of this series. This is one

of his best moments. He was badass. Kind of cool

to see Fortress Maximus partially transform.

I'm still sad that we never got to see Metroplex

do that. That inform... Who or what was that?

This episode is just another example of why Jazz

is a kick -ass character. RC was cool. I never

thought a ratchet shockwave showdown would be

cool, but they pulled it off in this episode.

They actually pulled off making a ratchet shockwave

showdown. Badass and it was cool to see the final

finally get the color change for shockwave. This

was a pretty solid episode all the way around

I'm actually gonna give this one an eight out

of ten guys. So remember that's an eight out

of ten I was not bashing that episode. Okay,

moving into the final two -parter It's called

endgame part one and part two written by Rich

Fogel the first one in Marsha Griffin the second

one These are episodes 41 and 42 total 12 and

13 out of season 3. I'll break it down into parts

here for part 1 it's so refreshing that we actually

are getting episodes now that are tied to previous

episodes. Wow, that's so cool. Not just those

one -off throwaway season one episodes. Starscream,

he just keeps turning into my favorite character.

He is not my favorite character, but he just

keeps getting closer and closer to that. Or should

I say his head is getting closer and closer to

that. There's a cool flashback with the primes

and Ultra Magnus and the punishment being doled

out, tying that loose end up. That was pretty

cool. Please don't taint jazz with this cyber

ninja bullshit. And then the only other note

I have for part one is poor Starscream getting

owned by Megatron yet again. That's kind of funny

though. Part two, we started off with a at least

the last gay transformation sequence. Oops, I'm

not supposed to say that word. the last horrible

transformation sequence we ever have to see for

Transformers animated. So I'm glad that's over.

I was confused. They said, get everybody to Sumdack

Tower. That's the safest place in the city. When

that was one of the main targets. That seemed

a little bit odd. I loved the WMD reference.

That was kind of cool to put in there. I had

a slight wish that they would have been incorporating

a few more of the other bots we've seen over

the course of the three seasons to kind of wrap

up loose ends and to kind of, this is an all

-out battle type thing sort of, so it would have

been cool to see something. I don't know, maybe

some of the Dinobots or some way to throw some

of the other people in Swindle. I don't know,

it would have just been kind of cool. This was

a solid two -part episode. It was looking like

it was going to be a great finish to a mediocre

series and a decent season until the end. What

a cheap ass way to solve the major problem of

the episode. The major problem being that the

clones of Omega Supreme are going to blow up

and they need a shield. And this is how they're

going to solve it. They couldn't come up with

a realistic way to do it. So they said, let's

fall back on that other storyline. The cyber

ninjas will meditate, gather the all spark from

all corners of the earth through meditation.

Give me a freaking break. No one could come up

with a better realistic solution. So they had

to settle on that shit. It was an easy way out.

It was a humongous tarnish on an otherwise super

solid series finale. We'll get more into that

later, I'm sure. Calling him Starscream Supreme

was funny, and I guess my last note for Endgame,

thank God that poor excuse for a prowl is dead.

Overall though, even without the ending there,

even with the ending, even with that shitty ass

ending to that problem, I'll still give the two

-parter a 7 out of 10. This almost would have

been 8 or 9 material. I'll give it a 7 out of

10. And this is Optimus Solo, and I survived

watching three seasons of Transformers Animated.

Now back to Transformation Animation Podcast.

Alright, that's it. So Kevin made it through.

He didn't die on us. He's told me off air that

he wants to go back and I'm sure he'll mention

this next week in episode 16, but he wants to

go back and watch all of Armada, Energon, and

Cybertron to see if it's as bad as where we keep

telling him it is versus this series. Why would

he do that? I know, really? No, I mean this series,

I can understand, given his point of view, how

he could maybe not enjoy this series as much

as like I did. But even I look at energon and

just want to weep openly It's just it's so bad.

I honestly I don't think he would be able to

get through the first Maybe two episodes of energon.

I mean I enjoyed Armada a little bit Cybertron

I I enjoyed more because just the direction they

took they included the beasts they included uh

Cybertronian modes and they included Earth modes

and they they made it plausible it was almost

as if they tried to take the whole Transformers

mythos and bring it all together uh and there

were some decent characters in there and I thought

wow well maybe it's gonna maybe we're on the

right track maybe we're gonna get something better

and then Energon came along and just ruined it

it was so horrible it was just like epic fail

So epic fail, I don't know. I mean and nowadays

without a toy line to support it It would it

would be really hard to sit through Yeah, especially.

Oh god, especially many cons Don't don't even

go there. Don't even get inside. Yeah, you don't

like Ewoks Yeah, Ewoks are the the Star Wars

equivalent to many kinds and transformers And

I know technically minicons started in G1 with

Laserbeak and Rumble and Frenzy. Those are not

minicons. That's not a minicon. I know they're

not, but everybody calls them minicons. I call

them the G1 cassette formers. I'll buy that.

Yeah, so I mean that's what I call all those

guys from G1 But these many cons in these three

cartoons these things fucking suck as far as

this is why I Originally to respond to Kevin.

I was like inform, but what the hell and then

I realized oh, yeah rat rat rattle trap Yeah,

and then and then Kevin made the point of what

why do you need the snot and I can already said

it I mean the robots are fearful of the organics.

You gotta have the giant dangling loogie to make

him dangerous. Otherwise he's just gonna step

on it. Any response to Kevin for this is why

I hate machines, Steve? I 100 % agree with him.

You've agreed with him the entire podcast, pretty

much. He's like a sheep. Just a sheep going along

with whatever Kevin says. Kevin might actually

like that, actually. Um... God, I know I'm gonna

get it next week for that comment. He likes sheep.

Oh! Oh! Alright. You know, I... This is so bad.

This is so bad. What's that? Oh, God. Stop it.

Oh, dear. All right, yeah, I Maybe it's a little

bit early. Maybe I should wait until a little

later on in the in the comments here, but Yeah,

no, I wanted to go on record to say that you

know, I sometimes give Kevin a hard time Just

because I'm contrary like that I agree with an

awful lot of what he says and and I I really

like hearing what he has to say because again,

this is a viewpoint that we don't have. We've

seen all this before. We have formed opinions

on this ahead of time, and we're re -watching

it all over again, but we already know what to

expect, and Kevin doesn't know what to expect.

He's taking this from a completely different

context. I think it added something to the podcast

this time around. No, I agree. It might have

been a little bit better if all four of us could

have done it every week, but you know that just

wasn't plausible and you know Kevin could you

know watch the episodes on his own he could record

his clip on his own and just kind of and I and

I like the the way that we went ahead and Made

it his like Cybertronian correspondence segment,

you know live from Cybertron to I like that angle

of it And I'm glad I came up with the idea Don't

break your arm patting yourself on the back you

just like to take credit for shit But no, but

again, you know I'm I'm very happy that that

you know Kevin was able to do it in this and

do it in the way he did and You know, I I sometimes

give him shit and say oh, you know, you just

hate things that are awesome But you know because

that's just me being being silly, you know, but

I you know, you gotta respect the guy Oh yeah.

Except when he's talking about Hey Dude. But

anyway, on to... Oh shut your pie hole. Oh yeah

that's right, Steve's a Hey Dude fan too. Lovely.

Jackass. Moving on to end game, I only really

have two notes for this to respond to Kevin.

He likes the Starscream head. I think everyone

likes a little head. Wow. Wow Like that doesn't

happen every episode now Let's get out of our

system. He's ahead of his time. He should have

stopped while he was ahead Everyone likes a little

head. Okay, we got through it. He's more and

He's more he needs bigger head. He needs Yeah,

no, I like Starscream period yeah, you know whether

he's a head or a whole body or You know, I mean,

he's been ahead before. He got head -mastered.

So... Yes. And then he's like, well, I survived.

I don't know how, but I survived. And he acts

like this is the worst thing in Transformers

history. You know what? I want him to sit through

one episode of Energon, and then come back and

talk to us. This is a lie of Sarabrotronian correspondent,

and I've been killed watching some Energon! You

know, I mean, he won't survive that. I'd rather

watch Enter Dawn over Armada or Cybertron. Really?

Yeah. Wow. I don't see that. See, I enjoyed Cybertron.

I really did. There were aspects of Cybertron

that I didn't like, but again, you've got the

beast mode, Cybertronian mode for the speed planet.

You've got Earth modes for Earth. I don't know.

I mean, it's hard to explain. I liked the toys.

I liked the show, again, supporting the toys.

Like, giant planet. We got a Metroplex because

there's a giant planet. I mean, they really tried

to tie everything in there. But Energon just

didn't bring anything to the table. I mean...

Armada introduced minicons, and I had kind of

a minicon fixation there for a while. I just

loved them. I wanted to buy them all. I wanted

to buy all the Japanese -only colors they had

because they had their own color repaints that

they didn't have in the US, and I wanted to buy

all those. Said it really is as hard as it was

to sit through not like a cartoon I mean, you

know, that's probably fine I mean if we didn't

have cyber the cyber Tron in toy line the cyber

tron toy line we wouldn't have a lot of the bot

con toys that we've gotten over the years, you

know, I mean cuz different bot con toys have

been remolded from From cyber Tron toys cyber

key power. Yeah Don't even go there, but I mean,

you know, I I will say that you can like the

the Cybertron toy line without liking the completely

shitty cartoon that there was. Yeah, well, you

know again the Cybertron cartoon wasn't that

awful. The Energon cartoon was awful. Let me

review every Energon cartoon ever. It's Prime

getting his ass handed to him by Megatron. Prime

combining with something in order to defeat Megatron.

Megatron combining with something to defeat Prime

again. Yeah. Rinse and repeat. Yeah. I mean,

granted, I think the only good part about M.

John was they introduced a new Shockwave toy.

Wasn't that Shockblast? Yeah, it was Shockblast.

Yeah, or Laserblast in Japan. Or was it Laserwave

in Japan? I forget. But what it came down to

is it looked a lot like Shockwave and it was

the first time they'd done that. Yeah. But no,

and honestly, you would think, wow, they got

a Shockwave toy. That's amazing. He must be really

epic on the cartoon. It was awful. The cartoon

almost ruined Shockwave for me. It was just so

bad. And then, well, I think they killed Shockwave

because he was so stupid, but we brought back

Quickstrike, or I'm sorry, his twin brother,

Shockwave's twin brother, who is red and yellow

or something. Wow. And he had the quickstrike

accent. It was so bad. It was just so awful.

It made me what? Yeah, I may want to weep openly

Honestly, I couldn't watch it. I tried I really

did try Couldn't do it and honestly there there's

a I want to say, you know, I was still a completionist

Collector at that point and there's still energon

toys that I don't have because I just couldn't

bring myself to collect that line Yeah, yeah

Anyway, those toy lines were just freaking bricks.

Anyway, no Cybertron No, yeah again, I well I

don't know, you know I have to go back and look

at the line here cuz I think I'm looking at the

Cybertron toys Oh, no, these are the energon

toys. Okay. Yeah energon did blow Well, you know

you were joining us here on the transfer I'm

looking at a Wheeljack toy. I think they made

a downshift though. But he looked really nice.

And he combined with other toys of the same size

class. So, you know, but this is a toy line that

brought us Fatimus Prime. Or Sputumus Prime.

Sputumus Prime. Oh dear. Or Optimash Prime kills

Tony Starch or whatever. Oh no, that was the

movie. I know. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so I'm gonna

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